LOST: Ben outside the church [6x17-18 - The End]

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@thesimpsons17
@thesimpsons17 4 жыл бұрын
The pain on Ben's face is so real. He could have potentially lived for hundred of years on the island with Hurley before dying. And yet still one of the biggest regrets he needed forgiveness for was what he did to John.
@victorpradha9946
@victorpradha9946 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine living so long with all your (our ) accumulated regrets and guilt.
@ImaWildMango
@ImaWildMango Жыл бұрын
The scenes where Ben thought he was being overlooked again when Jack asked for a cup, he gave his water bottle; and then when Hugo asked Ben to be his assistant.
@jazzlover9050
@jazzlover9050 Жыл бұрын
And most important more of how he had his daughter killed. I think that was more painful than killing Locke. That’s why he cannot move on.
@Veliki77716
@Veliki77716 6 ай бұрын
When Mib said to Ben what were the last thoughts Locke had before he killed him you could see in Ben eyes that he felt remorse
@Firion13
@Firion13 8 жыл бұрын
Forgiveness is such a powerful thing.
@johnnybravo8129
@johnnybravo8129 7 жыл бұрын
Aramis it's basically impossible once you've done what you've done. You can't forgive yourself for those kinds of things. There's nothing that would ever make him forgive himself for letting his daughter die over the island, as well as him strangling Locke to death and killing Jacob
@thefredbaker
@thefredbaker 6 жыл бұрын
Aramis I think thats what he meant when he said he had some things to work on.
@igbalakard3100
@igbalakard3100 5 жыл бұрын
Strange how the murderer does not even dare to speak first, ashamed of what he did. It was up to the victim to take the initiative. Because of this, Locke was really special. And Ben was not.
@lukesvideogameletsplays4416
@lukesvideogameletsplays4416 5 жыл бұрын
Yes we should forgive those who strangle us to death. 🤣
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnnybravo8129 disagree
@goodguynow
@goodguynow 6 жыл бұрын
Once you’ve seen LOST every single show out there doesn’t even come close to comparing.
@StealthMaster86
@StealthMaster86 6 жыл бұрын
There have been a few close calls, and believe me there have been a few, but nothing grabbed a hold of me the way LOST did.
@jeremyhoffman6187
@jeremyhoffman6187 5 жыл бұрын
Deep Space Nine says hello.
@LuBre
@LuBre 4 жыл бұрын
Breaking Bad does a good job too
@jasongoldman5674
@jasongoldman5674 4 жыл бұрын
It is both a gift and a curse
@oshanepatterson5452
@oshanepatterson5452 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasongoldman5674 Monk
@williammccormick2802
@williammccormick2802 6 жыл бұрын
The untold history between Hurley and Ben is really something. All the years together summed up with great respect from both sides. It's so great.
@taylorrussell3158
@taylorrussell3158 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how old Ben is here. Also you can tell Hurley has matured at the end when he was introducing Sayid and Shannon back together Hurley displayed a certain zen quality.
@BartAllen
@BartAllen 11 ай бұрын
@@taylorrussell3158 *Exactly! A lot - more than a lot - then to not realise his Jacob-esque quality more so when he interacts with Charlie, too ~*
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 9 ай бұрын
Also ben became a pretty good advisor given how he told john he could walk. He changed.
@walletracer9882
@walletracer9882 6 ай бұрын
@@marocat4749 I suspect he took on the role of island historian/teacher as well, just as he was represented in the flash sideways. If you think about it, after the events of season 6 he's one of the only surviving people with a first-hand account to everything that took place there from Dharma times to the present.
@BillKurn
@BillKurn 5 ай бұрын
In the very last episode "Lost Epilog-New Man In Charge" Ben goes around closing all the Dharma warehouses, and (along with Hugo) rescues Walt from a mental hospital, I'm wondering if all that from the Epilog happened before or after what we are seeing here.
@YouTubeKnight
@YouTubeKnight Жыл бұрын
The fact that someone uploaded a 1080p clip in 2010 in itself deserves a massive appreciation.
@khymaaren
@khymaaren 9 ай бұрын
1080p on YT became available just half a year prior to this upload. The format itself wasn't new, though.
@ShaferHart
@ShaferHart 6 ай бұрын
Username checks out
@tylerwampole5977
@tylerwampole5977 7 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful scene. What Jacob wanted was for people to make the right decision without anyone having to tell them it was. And through this scene, we can see that he succeeded. Ben can enter the church anytime he wants, but he chooses not to. He isn't being judged by anyone, it's his choice to right his wrongs and do what's right.
@kathyhorton4100
@kathyhorton4100 5 жыл бұрын
Damn. Never looked at it from the view....
@rebeccashaheen9620
@rebeccashaheen9620 5 жыл бұрын
Barry Buzz Lightyear we're all lost until we are fully realized ⚡️
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 5 жыл бұрын
True
@PaulH0824
@PaulH0824 4 жыл бұрын
Eh. Jacob was a pretentious, petty jerk with no regard for human life. He was happy to use people like pawns just to prove a point to his brother. He allowed so many innocent people to die just because he had to be so vague and obtuse about everything.
@TheodoreBotman
@TheodoreBotman 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulH0824 Petty? He was basically safeguarding all of humanity. The stakes were anything but petty.
@jjzgamer5507
@jjzgamer5507 10 жыл бұрын
Of all the character endings, Ben's was the most satisfying. Sure he doesn't get to move on yet, but he's not ready to. Yet we have a feeling that maybe someday he will achieve it. It seemed right for his character and his last words with Locke and Hurley said everything they needed to.
@jonathancooper4914
@jonathancooper4914 3 жыл бұрын
Ben's character arc was extremely well done.
@Electricsheep86
@Electricsheep86 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the ending, but in Ben's case it makes no sense. Wouldn't he be allowed inside because he eventually would've worked things out?
@juanlaise1059
@juanlaise1059 3 жыл бұрын
@@Electricsheep86 He had hurt too many people to be allowed there. He was not part of the group. He still had his own afterlife though, with Danielle and Alex.
@francissellerdude
@francissellerdude 2 жыл бұрын
screw ben dudes going to hell
@williamr1088
@williamr1088 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ben is waiting for Danielle and Alex.
@FatalMusic
@FatalMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful series, beautiful ending!
@arjunmamidala1138
@arjunmamidala1138 3 жыл бұрын
facts
@KMAN6101
@KMAN6101 4 жыл бұрын
“Ya know, you were a really good number 2.” “And you were a great number 1 Hugo.” Those two lines gave me the feels.
@classyjeff
@classyjeff 10 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Hurley and Ben's adventures were like
@ExtravaganTV
@ExtravaganTV 9 жыл бұрын
They should do a spin off.
@tylerwampole5977
@tylerwampole5977 7 жыл бұрын
SPINOFF MAKE IT HAPPEN JJ
@ShoopityDoopity
@ShoopityDoopity 6 жыл бұрын
“LOST: The Adventures of Ben and Hugo”
@yamnayaseed356
@yamnayaseed356 5 жыл бұрын
Probably Ben manipulating Hugo for like 20 years
@TheMrTsavs
@TheMrTsavs 5 жыл бұрын
@@yamnayaseed356 im sure it started that way for a bit, but judging by this scene they clearly respect each other. and i feel it was not just 20, jacob was protector for at least 1800 so hurly could go probably 100, 150 at least.
@sergi-13
@sergi-13 10 жыл бұрын
Clearly the best two characters of the show.
@exotikgaming2584
@exotikgaming2584 9 жыл бұрын
Ues
@scottab140
@scottab140 9 жыл бұрын
***** I like Sawyer too.
@ELLIOT1311
@ELLIOT1311 8 жыл бұрын
Sergi sawyer
@kdizzle901
@kdizzle901 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@scottbasham3996
@scottbasham3996 6 жыл бұрын
Two of the best tv characters ever
@icezilla01
@icezilla01 7 жыл бұрын
Ben’s happiness when seeing Hugo makes me filled with joy
@14Schofield
@14Schofield 10 жыл бұрын
Wow. Their final words to one another are quite symbolic. Ben: "You know, I don't think you need to be in that chair anymore." Ben is essentially saying "You're stronger than what's happened to you." John: "Goodbye Ben." John giving Ben a farewell, 'no harm done' sort of speech.
@kdydm69000
@kdydm69000 6 жыл бұрын
No harm done Ben , my life was shit anyway , thanks for killing me bud'
@canalrdfun7363
@canalrdfun7363 6 жыл бұрын
Actually it is because Locke is bead and he doesn't need a chair anymore.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 5 жыл бұрын
@@kdydm69000 cuz he realizes everyone dies, but there is a life afterwards.
@ffejpsycho
@ffejpsycho Жыл бұрын
Yes, and the Irony is that, in that moment just like Locke ben doesn't need to be in that "chair" either as in if Ben just accepts it, and allows himself to Ben can get up and walk in the church also... Kinda irks me, that neither offered slightly more encouragement to Ben in the moment...
@sugardaddy4714
@sugardaddy4714 4 жыл бұрын
John struck a chord with most viewers because he's the one we can identify with. Very view of us are renown spinal surgeons, former Iraqi interrogator, or international fugitives, but most of us want to be special, yearn for something spectacular or adventurous to happen in our lives to take us away from our humdrum everyday existence and wipe out the mistakes we made or hardships thrown at us.
@trvlaqwst7570
@trvlaqwst7570 4 жыл бұрын
@Sugar Daddy nicely put! ✨
@FreshZCORD
@FreshZCORD 4 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@tombagwell5407
@tombagwell5407 Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful comment
@ShaferHart
@ShaferHart 6 ай бұрын
What a daft comment. You don't need to be any of those things to identify with a character. It's like saying I need to be Korean to identify with Sun. Or a Sayan with crazy hair and a love for martial arts to identify with Goku. John was a great character, as there were many in LOST. It was your favorite character, fine, but no, it wasn't because of that bs. It was because it was well written. Period.
@gots0359
@gots0359 5 ай бұрын
@@ShaferHart goofy ass comment. Its easier to identify with people that are of your background and obviously people resonate with John despite not being american or shit because its not about nationality but about your day job and what you are as a person and so on so forth, dont be ridiculous
@FizzoWeird
@FizzoWeird 6 жыл бұрын
John Locke believed he was special. But nobody else in the outside world treated him as if he was special, his father treated him like crap. Then nobody in the Oceanic 815 believed that he was special or that special was even a thing (except maybe for Boone). When he found the first man who believed he was special, he murdered Locke for it. I believe Locke finally realized the irony of it all.
@Ducu84
@Ducu84 4 ай бұрын
He was the only one from Oceanic Six who believed in the power of island and that he had a purpose there. And yet, ironically, he ended up murdered by Ben...We look perfection and life purpose our entire life, and in the end we receive nothing...death comes when you're not expecting😢 Locke was the most powerful of them all, that's why MiB had chosen him, to break him, just like Joker chose Harvey Dent to destroy.
@RichardStrong86
@RichardStrong86 9 жыл бұрын
Poor guy. In order to attain enlightenment you've got to let go and forgive yourself for all the things you've done. And in his case he still had a long way to go.
@stevensanchez6443
@stevensanchez6443 9 жыл бұрын
He also wanted to give his daughter the life she never had. That's probably how he forgave himself. His story is one of the best.
@johnnybravo8129
@johnnybravo8129 7 жыл бұрын
Richard Strong exactly. That's why getting sent to hell and being in hell is a paradox. The only way to get out is to accept what you've done and to know you don't deserve punishment. The paradox is A person who doesn't regret what they've done would never get out and the person that realizes what they've done would never feel like they don't deserve to be punished
@ebrony2355
@ebrony2355 5 жыл бұрын
I gey it knownice explanation
@FastFordClub
@FastFordClub 5 жыл бұрын
I get that , for sure , being punished now with my life and this girlfriend at my age of 51 , never been this sad , pissed off and lonely ever before
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 5 жыл бұрын
@@FastFordClub damn why what's going on?
@supremeworld87
@supremeworld87 7 жыл бұрын
You can tell how much the writers adored Ben and how they'd developed him, he's not only the only villain who makes it through alive but they even give him what he always wanted a position under the protector. It's the role he always wanted to do for Jacob but was never allowed to. He's the new Richard essentially. It suits the new Ben far better than his old position of power which arguably led to him to become the selfish person he was for most of the shows length. It's a sad moment though when he admits he wasn't special. It's the thing he always wanted to be (making him very much like Jacob ironically) but never quite could be, despite claiming to be told he was by Richard. It must have been hard to be told all those things only for someone to come along who seems to be so much more special
@HugoStiglitz88
@HugoStiglitz88 8 жыл бұрын
It's funny how in the end the show made us like Ben. I felt so bad for him in this scene. He deserves to move on with the rest of them.
@HugoStiglitz88
@HugoStiglitz88 8 жыл бұрын
***** Yea. He's done a lot of fucked up shit. Still felt bad for him in the end.
@supremeworld87
@supremeworld87 7 жыл бұрын
He was a masterfully crafted character. Went from a bit part to arguably the most popular character on the entire show. Such a complicated mess of a man, he did horrible things but he was always written in a way that he was never irredeemable - you always managed to root for him.
@supremeworld87
@supremeworld87 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he was in a lot of pain over the loss of his own daughter in that moment. You can see it in his voice, the anger, the thirst for vengeance. He wanted Charles to lose what he had. The key to that scene is the appearance of Penny's son Charlie which causes Ben's love of children to come to the forefront and momentarily kills his anger until Desmond gets to him
@BalorFigsUK
@BalorFigsUK 5 жыл бұрын
Nah look at all the bad shit he did. He killed locke! He don't deserve to go.
@shpei88
@shpei88 4 жыл бұрын
Not me. I’m glad he evolved but he was right to stay behind.
@UrbanSwagger
@UrbanSwagger Жыл бұрын
It warms my heart to know this clip has been here 13 years and will continue to be here for whenever I need it. ❤️
@occono3543
@occono3543 2 ай бұрын
If Disney does some purge of Lost KZbin clips they're getting purged themselves haha
@AndyThomasStaff
@AndyThomasStaff 8 жыл бұрын
"I'll see ya" such a perfect line
@harrywogan6934
@harrywogan6934 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the most underrated scene in the entire show
@flawd961
@flawd961 9 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I love the finale so much is all of the symbolism/hidden meanings. The writers did a superb job
@hethen5846
@hethen5846 6 жыл бұрын
Flawd no
@DG-um3xi
@DG-um3xi 6 жыл бұрын
Justin Y. in my boot? Wot do u mean no.
@cristobalaraya3541
@cristobalaraya3541 5 жыл бұрын
@@DG-um3xi It means in this case symbolism/hidden meanings is just an out for not having an explanation, there are no hidden meanings because there never were any meanings. Let's make it ambiguous and symbolic so people can make their own interpretation (Translation: We have no interpretation)
@firstname4337
@firstname4337 5 жыл бұрын
"The writers did a superb job" -- OMG, you're an idiot the writers were totally making this up week to week they had no fucking idea what they were doing or where they were headed
@Rallonorm
@Rallonorm 4 жыл бұрын
first name ignorance
@missfollowyourheart
@missfollowyourheart 11 жыл бұрын
Ben and Hurley defended the Island. They were friends. :) And I'm crying...
@coherentmint
@coherentmint 10 жыл бұрын
This scene proves that the island was ALL real, because Hurley says to Ben he was a good partner in taking care of the island in place of Jacob, so they lived a full life after Jack died
@DarknessIsThePath
@DarknessIsThePath 3 жыл бұрын
Well that and the fact that Christian literally tells that to Jack lmao
@JoeMitchell868
@JoeMitchell868 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarknessIsThePath That Christian dialogue really makes me think the writers added it for clarity sake. The lines are right to the point and direct. "Yeah, I’m real. You’re real. Everything that’s ever happened to you is real. All those people in the church, they’re all real too" and later "Everyone dies sometime, kiddo. Some of them before you, some long after you" It's literally spoon fed to the audience, to clear up any lingering questions. Yet some people think the whole show is purgatory.
@bajscast
@bajscast Жыл бұрын
@@JoeMitchell868 Anyone who didn't get it is just people who paid minimal attention, and then people who heard about it from them and then spread the lie like a game of telephone
@melrupinski88
@melrupinski88 6 ай бұрын
@@bajscastTrue, it was spelled out clearly in the finale, but what I think really confused people was the b-roll footage of the plane wreckage on the beach during the final credits of the original airing. They just had some footage of the wreckage they shot before they had to remove it from the beach, and they thought by showing it, it would be a good way for viewers to “catch their breath” before the next program began. Unfortunately, because there were no cast members in the footage, many people took that to be the final “clue” that no one survived the crash. Not hard to see how people were confused. Personally, the fact that there were no dead bodies strewn across the beach (and if you look closely you can see the tarp from Jack’s original medical tent flapping in the breeze) in the footage negates that whole theory.
@37Sith
@37Sith 5 жыл бұрын
I love how Ben says hello to Hugo.
@leampunkt3678
@leampunkt3678 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a strong and important scene. LOST is such a special show, that no other show will live up to. To find an ending must have been the hardest, but they found the best ending possible and created the most beautiful ending an show ever.
@verdigris1
@verdigris1 9 жыл бұрын
i really hope heaven is like this
@ThePreachingOfHisWord
@ThePreachingOfHisWord 5 жыл бұрын
We'll find out soon......God Bless
@NachoHatSD
@NachoHatSD 5 жыл бұрын
Not heaven, but the place we meet and then all go together.
@roninroma
@roninroma 4 жыл бұрын
This is the purgatory, every soul go there, real Christian and people who didn't hurt anyone and believed in true love will stay there just to meet true friends, the exception here is Ben who betrayed anyone for his purpose to control people. He say "for a while" but it's a secret of the here after how long will be there... If you see Michael who shoots Ana Lucia and Libby isn't there AT ALL... Don't need any imagination where he went, sadly for him. Can God bless everyone, he loves each one of you. ❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️
@HylianDan
@HylianDan 4 жыл бұрын
@@roninroma There's an epilogue clip to the series that addresses Michael's situation, Hurley's in charge of the island and knows Michael is stuck there, and Hurley cares and does something about it.
@WhatDoYouWant92
@WhatDoYouWant92 4 жыл бұрын
@@roninroma Michael stayed on the Island as a whisperer ghost.
@VinnyIurillo
@VinnyIurillo 5 жыл бұрын
This is straight up two of the most amazing closings for the two most powerful and emotional characters on the show, in the scene you can clearly recognize Ben, in genuine remorse for what he did, and Locke’s understanding of how he feels that. And the final line of “goodbye Ben” makes the entire scene for me because it’s so genuine and you know that’s probably the last time they’ll see each other. And the music along with it is some of the best I’ve ever seen on television. Jesus Christ this is brilliant.
@VinnyIurillo
@VinnyIurillo 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a fantastic and amazing way to say farewell to the two best and most interesting characters on lost, and yes I love the other characters a lot too, but man this scene and Ben and Locke.
@FreshZCORD
@FreshZCORD 2 жыл бұрын
Very much agree
@TheBlazinSamurai
@TheBlazinSamurai 10 жыл бұрын
Top 5 favorite characters 1.Ben 2.Desmond 3.John 4.Mr.Eko (Killed of to early) 5.Richard
@softie2
@softie2 10 жыл бұрын
1.Ben 2.Jack (because I love him, his acting) 3.Locke 4.Desmond 5.Hugo.. but i;m a lostie so i still agree with your list
@Urketadic
@Urketadic 10 жыл бұрын
1. Locke 2. Richard 3. Jacob 4. Samuel 5. Jack
@scottab140
@scottab140 9 жыл бұрын
Jared I would put Jin #1 on the last. What a background story with differing social class and Sun unable get pregnant and her own drama.
@ss-cz4nw
@ss-cz4nw 7 жыл бұрын
Woah! My list is exactly the same with yours. Wasn't expecting that.
@siso7274
@siso7274 7 жыл бұрын
1.John 2. Jack 3. Desmond 4. Hurly 5. Charlie
@kyle1137
@kyle1137 8 жыл бұрын
Best TV Finale ever. Simply Perfect.
@timmc8444
@timmc8444 5 жыл бұрын
Let the idiots disagree..it was great!
@firstname4337
@firstname4337 5 жыл бұрын
OMG, you're an idiot
@jjs7473
@jjs7473 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Best ending in TV history.
@ΑστέριοςΜόσχοβας
@ΑστέριοςΜόσχοβας 2 жыл бұрын
can u explain to me the story in a few words and the ending? i wanna start it but idk
@ffejpsycho
@ffejpsycho Жыл бұрын
It's pretty good, but it sure ain't better than the Twin Peaks Finale
@IllyrianHighlander
@IllyrianHighlander 4 жыл бұрын
In this afterlife world they created for themselves to let go and move on, John’s baggage is what paralyzes him here. When Jack Wakes him up, he can walk again. So powerful!
@vanjaraduljeskovic2318
@vanjaraduljeskovic2318 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like if they made any spin-off shows of Lost, I would really want it to be about Hurley and Ben as the new protectors of the island. Or about the Dharma initiative, that would be awesome.
@AshlehL
@AshlehL 8 жыл бұрын
Nah not the dharma initiative, that would suck. Maybe if we didn't know everything that happened to them but nah. Because we already know that they all died and how it happened and pretty much everything about them. But Hurley and Ben being the protectors would be amazing. You can tell they become pretty good friends when Hurley said to him "you were a good number 2"
@thesupreme950
@thesupreme950 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like there's more about the DA that I'm still curious about, but yess Hurley and Ben running the island would be a great spin off
@lds9280
@lds9280 8 жыл бұрын
The Walt actor is at the age where they could do something like this would be really cool to see.
@totesjokin5354
@totesjokin5354 7 жыл бұрын
Omg, it’d have to be Hurley, Walt and Ben just havin fun fixin up the island, very sitcom-esque, no heavy drama - just those clowns goofin off :) I’d fucking watch the shit out of that.
@ods1ODS
@ods1ODS 6 жыл бұрын
I just finished the series recently and am still kinda sorting everything out but I feel like for all we know Ben and Hugo spent decades on that island as 1 and 2. And who knows how many more people came through the island in that time. Point is, I'd love to know more about their time there and who replaced them.
@Books-and-coffee0
@Books-and-coffee0 2 жыл бұрын
"You were special John... and I wasn't."
@shadowofthestatue
@shadowofthestatue 9 жыл бұрын
This "place" is not purgatory but more of a "way station". Ben stayed by choice. He couldn't quite accept who he had been in his life. He had to sort his actions out. That's what makes this so damn beautiful. He personally wasn't ready and wasn't being judged by some egotistic overlord.
@CappyK
@CappyK 9 жыл бұрын
shadowofthestatue I don't want to taint your sentiment, I think your comment is poignant. That said, I've always thought that God would be much more merciful to me that I would ever be to myself. That's my understanding of the Judgement anyway... it's not going to be a big scary throned old man sending everyone to the lava pits, it's going to be a kindly Father who can officially tell you your mistakes and bad choices have been forgiven and you can come home now.
@jdbarr769
@jdbarr769 6 жыл бұрын
God isn't an egotistical overLord because if He was none of us would exist.
@emz10000
@emz10000 10 жыл бұрын
'you were a real good number two'
@stevensanchez6443
@stevensanchez6443 9 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long they lived for because with Ben Linus as his advisor he probably made him immortal too until they found new people to watch over the island. I love the look on his face when he greets Hurley you can tell they were friends for a really long time.
@abbysands9510
@abbysands9510 8 жыл бұрын
IKR the way he says Hurley.
@Thepixiebella
@Thepixiebella 6 жыл бұрын
em. 😂😂😭😭😭😭
@matthewlev1342
@matthewlev1342 9 жыл бұрын
Ben and Locke are amazing characters. Best in TV.
@witchywoman2008
@witchywoman2008 4 жыл бұрын
I still remember the shock when, during season 6, I suddenly realised Ben had become my favourite character. But my god, he was so wonderful. And this scene always breaks me. He wasn't ready to move on, he still has redeeming to do. But he'll enter that church when he's ready.
@robertsmith-cj6gl
@robertsmith-cj6gl 3 жыл бұрын
John forgiving him allowed him to walk again.
@realkhalidkazmiri
@realkhalidkazmiri Ай бұрын
Probably that was the meaning of "let go"
@tomwheeler2012
@tomwheeler2012 Ай бұрын
What wonderfully poignant and profound scene. John's response "what did I have" reveals an incredible truth about the difference between our body and our spirit (soul). All the things the body covets, all the hurts and jealousies, envies, desires, etc they as nothing to our spirit. Ben is holding onto his life...John however has already let go of his life and that is why he can look at Ben and say "What did I have that you wanted?" and that is why Ben can say "I forgive you!" Now sometimes we can say this in life but sometimes its not until death strips away everything we held onto in life that we can say "Im sorry" and/or "I forgive."
@SinisterMud
@SinisterMud 7 жыл бұрын
That symbolism! So strong. I guess people(like me) want to repeat this show over and over because its such good poetry.
@ProBreaker
@ProBreaker 5 жыл бұрын
I think, the reason why John decided to forgive Ben for killing him is the fact that Ben gave his death meaning. As Sawyer put it "Locke was scared, even when he pretended he wasn't". John hated being mediocre, he wanted so badly to be special and the island gave him that. When he wasn't able to convince anyone to go back to the island, he knew that he would have to go back to his old boring life, and it affirmed what he had always believed deep down, the fact that he wasn't special at all. Realising his entire life had no purpose, he decided to kill himself. When Ben killed John, he gave his life purpose, to save the island. This is why John is able to forgive Ben, because Ben made him special, and that is all he ever wanted to be.
@FreshZCORD
@FreshZCORD 2 жыл бұрын
And plus ben tries to protect him in the Flash sideways
@daneycune
@daneycune 9 жыл бұрын
Ben is my favourite character and the actor is amazing. And I guess he isn't ready yet to leave.. and he has Alex back now. And I smiled while Locke said he forgives him.
@ods1ODS
@ods1ODS 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I didn't even grasp that. The idea that teacher Ben became enlightened in this alternate life and aware of his previous life as Island Ben. And that he now had an entirely different outlook on Alex and Rousseau. So much to sift through with this show.
@carbrock.2854
@carbrock.2854 3 жыл бұрын
My thinking is Ben is hanging back to help Alex remember, and perhaps is seeking her forgiveness.
@orth82
@orth82 10 жыл бұрын
If it helps, Ben, you totally are special and we adore you :)
@ShoopityDoopity
@ShoopityDoopity 6 жыл бұрын
“Ya know, you were a real good number two.” “And you were a great number one, Hugo.”
@tblightningbolt8902
@tblightningbolt8902 Жыл бұрын
Just amazing stuff. Over a decade later and nothing has moved me in TV or movies like lost
@chrisjamro1369
@chrisjamro1369 4 ай бұрын
that smile and his tone of voice when Hurley comes by... It just shows how his time together influenced him, made him a better man and how thankful he is for that time. Small touch but so beautiful.
@kristi9417
@kristi9417 8 жыл бұрын
Ive always loved Ben. lol Everything about him is fragile. He beats himself up. Everything he says. This scene really got me crying.
@Disneymore
@Disneymore 7 жыл бұрын
KRiSTi ! best ben scene :)
@En_theo
@En_theo 5 жыл бұрын
I always hated Ben, he was indeed selfish and jealous of someone because of the little he had. He was a very good character, but not one I'd love, except when he repents at the end. Even there, he does not dare to talk first to Locke.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 5 жыл бұрын
@@En_theo I hated him, but only for a season or two
@VeronicaCalzada55lbdv
@VeronicaCalzada55lbdv 8 жыл бұрын
i really adore Ben, he's the best character, and with an amazing end.
@andreeagabrielaprorokova
@andreeagabrielaprorokova Ай бұрын
No series has impacted me so deeply! Thank you!
@mollymollie6048
@mollymollie6048 3 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful scene in the ending of my favorite show. My favorite characters, Locke and Ben…love Hurley, too. I understand why Ben wasn’t ready to go in the church…he definitely had some things to work out, lol. All props to Michael Emerson and Terry O’Quinn for making these complex, flawed, but deeply human characters come to life on our screen. Miss you, Lost…I’m glad you ended it when you did, and I feel privileged to be one of those who waited every week (or months on months on months) for a new episode…trying to figure out the many mysteries. I don’t know how anyone cannot think this wasn’t the greatest drama ever made.
@warrickgirl37
@warrickgirl37 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a bad Ben and Locke scene, I cannot think of any off the top of my head, these two just work so great with each other.
@nicempie3178
@nicempie3178 3 жыл бұрын
Bad as in it sucked or as they were fighting
@warrickgirl37
@warrickgirl37 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicempie3178 Bad as in sucked. I don’t think there are any
@ianwestc
@ianwestc 2 жыл бұрын
The interaction between Ben and Locke is what makes 3x20, The Main Behind The Curtain, one of my favorite series episodes.
@dwightschrute1953
@dwightschrute1953 Жыл бұрын
watching again at the end of November 2022, and it's still just as impactful as the first time I watched the whole series. this will be probably the 15th time I've gone through it completely, and it is still a mystery. I wished it would have kept going and never ended....
@ShoopityDoopity
@ShoopityDoopity Жыл бұрын
Truly the greatest show of all time.
@brennalydia
@brennalydia 13 жыл бұрын
Ben is seriously one of the best characters on any TV show ever.
@timmo5192
@timmo5192 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this makes me sad, I have been depressed my whole life and this show was an important part of my life and it sucks not looking forward to a new episode every week. and Watching it just makes me feel sad and think about things I lost in my life. Specially Kate and Jack, reminds me of this girl I lost.
@doxholiday1372
@doxholiday1372 11 ай бұрын
You need to find another series then.
@damienhine1861
@damienhine1861 8 жыл бұрын
I kind of get the feeling that outside the church represents a purgatory of sorts. Ben remains there while he works out his baggage.
@phantom4x4
@phantom4x4 8 жыл бұрын
They were all in a kind of purgatory
@abbysands9510
@abbysands9510 8 жыл бұрын
Not all of them should go to heaven. I mean Said was a cold blood killer and John killed a lot of people. He threw a knife into a woman back and she was only trying to help them. Some of the should go to hell.
@Alanmarine1
@Alanmarine1 7 жыл бұрын
abby Sand They all made mistakes but atoned for them. That's the point, finding a new meaning and being enlightened.
@abbysands9510
@abbysands9510 7 жыл бұрын
Alanmarine1 I do not recall them atoning for anything. At least Ben atoned by working with Harley. You can see how much he changed in the sideways flash episode of Lost. For example he could have become Headmaster at the cost of his daughter (at least he did not know that at the time) going to college or he could step down and his daughter would get a glowing recommendation to any college. He chose the latter. A choice he would never have made in the past. After all did he not let his daughter died. Now John, Said, Sawyer, Claire, Charlie never atoned for their past murderous indiscretions. Said went on to murder a lot of people, John died before he could make up for his actions like killing that innocent girl and Sawyer never atoned for killing an innocent man in the alley way not to mention the consequences of cheating innocent people out of their money guaranteed he did hear his father murder his mother. How many innocent kids grew up to become just another Sawyer. What about killing John’s father in cold blood. Claire killed a man in cold blood with an axe because she believed he took her baby and Charlie murder a defenceless man in cold blood guaranteed he did hang by the neck earlier. Are you telling these people should go to to heaven….
@abbysands9510
@abbysands9510 7 жыл бұрын
Charity Diary I agree with some of thing you mentioned but I like to interject one thing Ben change began when he starting working with Hurley at the end of season 6. By the time he reach purgatory he was already a changed man. Although it was never shown until 2010 when a small clip was released showing him working with Hurley. A thing he would never would have done in the past. Recall the shadow monster read his mind and realized that he wanted to kill John (although not really John) and become leader again. In that clip he apologised for kidnapping Michael's son. The son forgave him and all three of them head back to the island that is Hurley, Ben and Michael's son. And finally the other's never atoned for their crime they should not be moving on. I think they are moving on to hell. The bad ones.
@tomwheeler2012
@tomwheeler2012 7 ай бұрын
The most powerful words spoken by anyone is Ben saying "I wanted what you had" and Locke responding "What did I have." How many times have we looked at our life and we are acting on an emotion that is so powerful that it goes right to the core of who we are...its that deep, its that threatening...its that envious or painful..... and then later in our life and it was nothing at all. This has to be the great self reflection that happens after death or towards the end of our life.
@BobSmith-kd4oc
@BobSmith-kd4oc 3 жыл бұрын
I just love it when John kicks that wheelchair aside like an old dish rag that will never get used again
@DeadmanInc336
@DeadmanInc336 3 жыл бұрын
The way Ben's face just absolutely lights up the moment he sees Hurley brings such a smile to my face.
@kathyhorton4100
@kathyhorton4100 5 жыл бұрын
This many years later and all the implications that these scenes speak to: still bring a tear. Damn good show.
@Jks_Sherripaiva
@Jks_Sherripaiva 5 жыл бұрын
Kathy Horton I’m currently rewatching, in season 3 now on Amazon! Best show ever made in my opinion, would have been very hard to watch pre ‘binge watch’ age though!!
@VinnyIurillo
@VinnyIurillo Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite scenes in any show ever. I think the way the writers handled the ending of Ben’s character was particularly satisfying. He can do whatever he wants but he chooses to stay behind because he’s finally able to reflect on how he needs to grow, to redeem, or whatever else Linus is looking for in the sideways. On top of that when Locke says goodbye to him the lighting on his face says it all. Locke the man presented in the show as light and dark finally saying goodbye to his greatest friend / enemy and the way he says “goodbye Ben” feels more like the audience saying it then him. God I love LOST even all these years later.
@h4nss0n.climbs
@h4nss0n.climbs Жыл бұрын
My all time favorite TV show. ❤
@maximus4917
@maximus4917 11 жыл бұрын
The way Locke says I forgive you sends chills.
@DaveDudes
@DaveDudes 6 жыл бұрын
God, I swear rewatching any scene from the last couple episodes of lost makes me ball my eyes out
@AaronDavis057
@AaronDavis057 4 жыл бұрын
I don't exactly remember it all, but there's some tugging at the heart strings hearing that music and seeing the characters interact again. Might have to rewatch it from the start
@abbysands9510
@abbysands9510 8 жыл бұрын
Working with Hurley I bet Ben never touched a gun again.
@ThomasF95DUS
@ThomasF95DUS 11 жыл бұрын
Two of the best actors of the show. Every scene with them is truly brilliant.
@nikolatexla
@nikolatexla Жыл бұрын
this is why ben is my favourite character from lost. because michael emerson's portrayal of him makes it so powerful... look at his eyes, you can see everything. pain, happiness, regret.
@emmyrossumfn101
@emmyrossumfn101 12 жыл бұрын
Having such a huge crush on Ben, this scene made me so unbelievably happy. Ben will get his good ending. He just needs time. And, oh my God, John forgiving Ben is too amazing...this is so, so perfect. Darn it. Now I'm sobbing.
@NekoHibaCosplay
@NekoHibaCosplay Жыл бұрын
I still hear people talking shit about this ending, but it was such powerful and full of symbolism I couldn't care less. Most of the cast absolutely killed it, especially Michael Emerson and Terry O'Quinn that carried on their shoulders this show with their absolute god tier acting from start to finish. Truly a masterpiece of a series.
@ffejpsycho
@ffejpsycho Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it wasn't perfect... I have some minor issues with it.... but I do feel it was quite apropos as a finale for Lost... Certainly didn't feel it was a let down!
@crev1018
@crev1018 3 жыл бұрын
1:48 this scene played in my head as I walked for the first time after 25 weeks of crutches for double hip surgery
@TanTanRahlf
@TanTanRahlf 11 жыл бұрын
This has become one of my go to feel good videos for when I'm sad. I love it so much!
@skylermoody3587
@skylermoody3587 10 жыл бұрын
In the end, Ben was not that bad of a character. Actually he turned out pretty cool in the end.
@TheHalloweenKing
@TheHalloweenKing 2 жыл бұрын
He was never bad, he was just mislead sadly
@ianwestc
@ianwestc 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, he still killed good, innocent people, for less than reasonable motives. He murdered John Locke out of pure jealousy, as he admitted in this scene.
@victorpradha9946
@victorpradha9946 7 ай бұрын
In terms of degrees of badness, Ben is definitely on the scale. Keamy killed anyone just to achieve his objective and was ruthless in doing so. Ben is closer to Keamy in that regard. Sayid killed out of misguided allegiances to some vague ideals. Ben killed Locke out of envy and spite. Sawyer killed out of anger at least 3x--the shrimp truck guy, Locke's bio-dad, and Tom Friendly.
@marion3386
@marion3386 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could go back and enjoy the show with my wonderful Son I miss giving him a hug 🤗 and we loved this show !
@zackrichards6331
@zackrichards6331 4 ай бұрын
Locke is the most special and Des is the one that unites the universe. What a special show, if you’ve never watched Lost you need to. See ya in another life 👋
@johnlong2963
@johnlong2963 4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone pointed out 1:59 - "one dark, one light". Love the symbolism the director put here.
@VinnyIurillo
@VinnyIurillo 4 жыл бұрын
Show is just genius.
@ProBreaker
@ProBreaker 9 жыл бұрын
my 10 favorite lost character: 1) Ben 2) Sawyer 3) Desmond 4) Daniel Faraday 5) Locke 6) Richard 7) Charlie 8) Miles 9) Jin 10) Eko
@ProBreaker
@ProBreaker 8 жыл бұрын
+burtonater ?
@burtonater
@burtonater 8 жыл бұрын
+TheAndersand2500 Ugh. For some reason it wouldn't expand your other 5 characters.
@ProBreaker
@ProBreaker 8 жыл бұрын
Hugo Stiglitz lol. Sawyer was an awesome character. He started out as a generic douchebag, but everytime a new layer of his character was revealed, he just became more and more awesome.
@AshlehL
@AshlehL 8 жыл бұрын
And can you explain why not sawyer? Sawyer is literally the character everybody loved lol
@HugoStiglitz88
@HugoStiglitz88 8 жыл бұрын
Ash FUCK NO ROFL Sawyer was one of the most hated characters on the show. He is easily the most dividing between fans. He was such a scumbag in the first and second season that most people just never liked him period. He constantly took his problems out on everyone else, manipulated people, betrayed people, how is that a likeable person? Even Ben was more likeable than Sawyer LOL
@RisenAndLostFan
@RisenAndLostFan 13 жыл бұрын
Locke is not a special guy, he is GODLIKE
@ianwestc
@ianwestc 2 жыл бұрын
I like the symbolism of how Ben and John part here. John, having let go of the past completely, is walking confidently. Ben, who still "has some things to work out," is the one sitting, lower.
@richtea615
@richtea615 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long Hurley and Ben looked after the island. Could have been centuries.
@CaptainDrunk
@CaptainDrunk 9 ай бұрын
When, years later, I met a former schoolmate who was always very unfriendly to me and apologized to me. I remembered John's words and said "if it helps you, I forgive you"
@saraha8826
@saraha8826 2 жыл бұрын
Literally the hello hugo makes me Happy/sad cry everytime
@kevinmangion6130
@kevinmangion6130 10 жыл бұрын
So after this scene Micheal Emerson went from being Benjamin Linus to Harold Finch....#Respect
@DelosWX
@DelosWX 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's perfect because in this scene you can begin to see Finch.
@jonathancooper4914
@jonathancooper4914 3 жыл бұрын
I love Person of Interest!
@jonathancooper4914
@jonathancooper4914 3 жыл бұрын
@@DelosWX ooooh that’s an interesting theory.
@thutrangpham6352
@thutrangpham6352 Жыл бұрын
A beautiful scene which I can not forget
@louistaplin3372
@louistaplin3372 11 жыл бұрын
Like he said......He wasn't ready. He has to atone for the things he did.
@LockLj
@LockLj 5 жыл бұрын
greatest lost scene... crying right now
@joeyjeffrey5892
@joeyjeffrey5892 2 жыл бұрын
The unseen spinoff of Hugo/Ben/Walt on the island afterwards. We'll always wonder but never see it. As we shouldn't.
@thebigragu9952
@thebigragu9952 2 жыл бұрын
And baby Aaron
@Thepixiebella
@Thepixiebella 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if I can watch it just because of the music. I’m already getting emotionally!
@alexs1504
@alexs1504 4 жыл бұрын
My god the goosegumps watching tghis scene, Lost is truly amazing
@johnanderson1335
@johnanderson1335 10 жыл бұрын
That smile at 1:13
@cryptidian3530
@cryptidian3530 6 жыл бұрын
John's smile is so good and honest, kind of like saying "It's okay, don't you worry, we'll figure it out and it'll be alright. ^^"
@Glori4n
@Glori4n Жыл бұрын
This is without a doubt the greatest TV show of all time.
@ChandlerBing-t3k
@ChandlerBing-t3k 7 ай бұрын
I totally agree
@BenStevenson-c4z
@BenStevenson-c4z 3 ай бұрын
LOST is Magical ✨ ❤
@BenStevenson-c4z
@BenStevenson-c4z 3 ай бұрын
The Moment that John Locke gets up out of His Wheelchair 🦽 is Such a Beautiful Moment ❤😊
@phantom21ize
@phantom21ize 5 ай бұрын
I like to believe that Ben passed on to the other side with Roussau and Alex when he was ready.
@ZuluRomeo
@ZuluRomeo 25 күн бұрын
Lostpedia had a section on the nature of the characters in the Flash Sideways when we first see them and before they "wake up" - that they actually represented the personalities of the real people at their moments of death. That actually makes sense when we realise what the Flash Sideways is. For example: Jack is a Doctor of Faith, believing that he can fix people who might not feel need fixing, including flash sideways John Locke, and reflecting that he redeemed Locke in the real world by finally believing him and believing in himself, and saving the island. Indeed, his offer to fix Locke's paralysis in the flash sideways might even be a subconscious way of the real Jack finally wanting to thank and repay Locke for all the good he had done, and to atone for the often cruel way he treated him in Locke's final days. Hugo had great power and influence, but used it to help others, as we saw in his new role as Island Protector. James had grown from being a bitter and cynical lone wolf to a responsible and valued leader of a strong team, as seen when he joined the DHARMA Initiative, and presumably maintained once he came home and reconciled with his own infant daughter. Kate had a strong mothering instinct, reflected in her growth in acting as a mother figure for young Aaron off the island, and her continued friendship with Claire. Jin and Sun were a loving rebellious couple whose love for each other could change the world, reflecting their renewed love for each other in their final moments. John was still broken, frustrated and vulnerable, reflecting the tragic circumstances of his murder despite his strong belief that things had to get better. Sayid, having effectively died twice in the real world and lived his last days as an infected zombie under the MIB's influence, was a shady and secretive character with questionable ethics in the flash sideways, but still had a lot of good inside him and ultimately does the right thing for others. Ben had reached the end of the beginning of his redemption arc on screen, tempered further by countless years as Hugo' s Number Two, but still haunted by the sins of his time on the Island. Hence, in the flash sideways, he is now in a position of responsibility as a high school teacher, and uses kindness and sympathy towards those in need whom he cares about. And so on...
@Natei
@Natei 4 жыл бұрын
this show is perfection to me
@TheHalloweenKing
@TheHalloweenKing 3 жыл бұрын
Ben and Locke had they best chemistry
@Tonaes123
@Tonaes123 11 жыл бұрын
Despite all the crap Ben did, he's probably one the most likable characters in the series
@jeremyvanb821
@jeremyvanb821 4 жыл бұрын
At least Locke got to be with the gang and didn't end up roasting in hell. With what his character went through I half expected that.
@majipoorcat
@majipoorcat Жыл бұрын
Ben came to the church just to say I’m sorry to John. Love it!😸🐾🌻🌎❤️💜💙💚
@FastFordClub
@FastFordClub 5 жыл бұрын
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