20/20 'The Menendez Brothers: Reversal of Fortune?' | PART 1

[@AA-qb7ni]

There is SO much evidence they were abused and the fact that SO many relatives of their parents believe them, says it all...

[@Nataliegggggg]

There for the money !!!

[@dunamisespada7289]

Exactly yup 👍 agree I believe them both 💯

[@keepitforreally4501]

Why weren’t the parents family defending them during the trial the first time?

[@keepitforreally4501]

If that was true, they would not be in prison There was a lot of evidence of what they were doing afterwards, they were on a spending spree

[@rl7012]

No there isn't. What evidence?

[@javiersanchez-uz7xw]

why do they make these guys sound like they went on a murder spree they killed their abusers

[@ashleydavis5557]

I know! X what the hell x imagine your parents hurting you like that it’s horrific x

[@Svetlana-q8k]

And I am sure they were not "cold blooded".. it was an act of self defend from deeply traumatized people

[@BottyBooop]

They saved hundreds of children from being abused by their dad.

[@ihaveadreamformykids4400]

It was self defense! It was either them or the parents.

[@RescuePitties46]

Exactly. 100% THIS. They are not and never were a threat to society. I have no sympathy for their parents, only empathy for the brothers.

[@gennerobootz6490]

Don’t sexual abuse your kids

[@ashleydavis5557]

Exactly x

[@ilovemiriamsomuch]

Don’t sexual abuse anyone

[@notnataliex]

For real.

[@lawr8th]

Duh, that goes without saying

[@deckzone3000]

Don't kill your parents.

[@annap1191]

They're not serial killers. They were driven insane by their monster parents. They have served their time and are rehabilitated. It's time to set them free.. 🙏🙏

[@PeterH-be1xe]

In almost any other country in the West they would have been released by now, on parole at least. Only in the United States are people regularly given insane whole-of-life sentences. In almost every other country that's reserved for the very worst of the very worst, the people who will always be a threat to society if they are ever released. Most murderers don't fit into this category.

[@fd5818]

I agree, they need to go free.

[@deckzone3000]

They were 18 and 21. Adults.

[@teresawhite4427]

No, they're not serial killers. But they are convicted double murderers. The parents are no longer here to defend themselves.

[@marcmeijvogel4111]

Are you even abele to think clear

[@rommytize]

Everyone saying abuse does not excuse murder should shut up. Do you have any idea what abuse does to a child? It kills you inside, and it takes away your dignity. Dignity should be free for everyone.

[@yugi960]

Apparently, they never suffered from being around someone who was abused, the way it destroys u psychologically and even more, your own parents, nothing is the same.

[@kimyooni4575]

yes, that's so disgusting to hear. people who have the slightest idea of what actual abuse is more so being abused and betrayed by your own family none other than your own father and mother and this went on for years and years... should by all means shut the hell up because they are more than ignorant

[@lawoman608]

I agree

[@notnataliex]

So true. Louder!

[@dunamisespada7289]

I was abused as a child and it does mess you up mentally and physically and emotionally and what they went through was horrible experience for the menenadez brothers

[@lauren1779]

The term “abuse excuse” boils my blood like no other. They were afraid every moment of their lives because they were in danger EVERY moment of their lives. 😔

[@blindsidedbylife143]

@@lauren1779 I agree I mean poor Erik couldn’t even go away to college with out his dad demanding he stay at home half the week. I bet he counted the seconds he turned of age to be able to finally leave and that was shut down by his dad and the money factor his dad had it all and would threaten to boot him out with nothing if he didn’t obey his demands and after growing up wealthy like that where you had everything but never your own money or decisions that would be a horrific situation for anyone so he had no rational choice but to obey. I bet it was terrible for Eric to have to come back after being away half the week I’m sure that only lasted a short time before the brothers snapped and when Lyle found out what was going on I’m sure the plan began to end the abuse themselves it’s been enough time served they are rehabilitated and very stable to be let back in society to live out the rest of their life’s and not harm no one. Imagine the good they can do now there’s a huge range of places and programs that need real grown healed and caring survivors to help others who are currently experiencing acute family abuse nowadays and may need people to learn and lookup too the Positive things that may happen if released out weight the negatives by far

[@AgoS_Tina]

I can't even imagine how horrible it must have been to live in constant terror and fear for their lives every day that passed.😢 Free them!

[@stevetorrez4390]

Lies

[@charlyssa3219]

Abusers like to use this word carelessly.

[@stevetorrez4390]

@blindsidedbylife143 Typical liberal deadbeat. They went back to reload??? They both broke losers and should rot in prison. This is way more important than getting rid of the crap ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN THE USA.

[@hazelgabriel9832]

People will never know how abuse affects someone's state of mind unless they experience it themselves. 💔 I wasn't SA'd, but I faced emotional abuse from my mom throughout my childhood up until college. It impacted me mentally, leading to moments when I couldn't escape having bad thoughts. I can’t imagine how much menendez brothers have suffered from their parents, especially from their dad. I endured abuse as well, but their situation was far worse. I hope they will get the freedom they deserve.

[@dunamisespada7289]

I was abused to as a child mentally and physically emotionally abused and they deserve to be free

[@rl7012]

​@@dunamisespada7289 So the brothers should be free because you have been abused? Make that make sense please.

[@alexwallace6120]

Yes I was emotional abused by my alcoholic parents, my father a bit more as my mother died when I was 17 yrs. old. It really caused a lot of emotional/Psychiatric problems. I've been therapy for45 yrs. off and on,medication,,outpatient programs, support groups, and hospitalizations. Yes, they helped, even having some forgiveness helped the damage was done, and there scars, which is there is no cure.. I feel that this negatively affected the 3 past relationships I had, and it their issues too. I feel better and safer living alone and of course more peaceful. I have friends and church, and my laptop. The thing is I'm doing the best I can."you can't change the past, so why let haunt to. You can't face the future, but you have to want to "Pat Benatar. Sexual abuse, I didn't have, and my goes out to Lyle and Eric. I hope they free of prison soon.

[@dunamisespada7289]

@@alexwallace6120 I was abused to for years I went through it all and I’m in a peaceful place now and living at peace with my daughter sky and I’m so sorry 😞 you went through all that and what help me is talking to someone about it and church ⛪️ and the support god bless you and May god continue blessing your life amen amen 🙏

[@angtxsun4460]

People do know, ask any survivor and they can tell you. People just don’t want to see it, their minds are closed. All the closed minds protect the abusers and blame the victims. It isn’t justice- it is ignorance.

[@blindsidedbylife143]

I can’t stand Barbra Walter’s

[@tammyrunyon4457]

Shouldn’t speak bad of the dead.

[@veronicaVee25]

@@tammyrunyon4457 oh stop, everyone is entitled to their own opinion based on their emotion. No one spoke bad of the dead. snowflake.

[@makeeblah]

every clip i have seen with her pretentious ass while interviewing them has annoyed me.

[@PlastiqueTechnologique2002]

The sad part that there’s an audio recording of Erik calling Barbara Walter’s a “friend”. If she’s a friend, then I don’t know how the other people in Erik’s lives behaved.

[@VogtTD]

@@tammyrunyon4457oh please. Dead people are not beyond criticism. Would you refuse to speak badly of Hitler?

[@jordanm1438]

Barbara Walters's interviews have not aged well.

[@blindsidedbylife143]

@@jordanm1438 no they sure haven’t almost all of her interviews are awkward to watch. She seems to feel like she has the right to interrogate her guests and the more I watch old ones she has done the more I dislike her tv personality Oprah is the same way idk nowadays That kind of behavior displayed by TV journalist that have shows just doesn’t fly anymore. It really comes across as out of line and not really their place to act like that to others I mean if she was still alive and having her shows I really doubt anybody would want to be on her show that has done any kind of wrong doing in the public eye for real.

[@MiluLeone]

7:00 he says "that's because we have laws" well you know what? So many times Justice makes mistakes and fails, they didn't have a fair trial, they had so many evidence of abuses, and the judge sucked. Even the jury said after trial: "if we knew everything that they told in first trial everything would be different" is not the same 15 or 20 years, at least they being together in same prison, that 30+ years without parole. The prosecutor Pamela literally said on trial: "Men can't be raped" what kind of Justice is that?

[@Carousel5883]

What he said is true there are laws and what u said is true so many ppl wrongfully imprisoned.They were definitely denied of a fair 2nd trial and victims of the culture or perception at that time,gender bias ..that men can't be raped and they were legally adult young privileged men who could have run away.They should go to jail but not for first degree but for manslaughter which they could be released 10/15;years ago.I was one of those who thought they were cold blooded murderers but when I watched Law and Order episodes,watching Court tv,Gen Z tik tok videos ( God bless them,)my views changed..and with the age of me too ,me too.They should be released.And the DA was eager for a guilty verdict after OJ.#freethemenendezbrothers

[@XMistressLolaX]

They are not violent criminals. They were two completely brainwashed and traumatized kids. Anyone under 25 is still a kid. They should be released. There's no question.

[@RescuePitties46]

Bottom line, there were and still remain only 2 victims in the Menendez family and those victims are Lyle and Erik.

[@peanutbutterbruv]

Andy Cado too.

[@deckzone3000]

But they are also killers, so....

[@RescuePitties46]

@@deckzone3000 They're victims who made a bad choice in how to stop their ab*se because at the time their minds were altered to only know fear in their home. Was it the right choice? Obviously not, but a victims mind is often altered. They are not some callous killers going after people, they were scared young men who face years of torture at the hands of their parents and they made an awful and life altering choice that took the lives of their parents. The brothers are victims and yes, it would have been better had they faced legal consequences for what they did to their sons, but look at that, even when the brothers spoke their truth with countless people backing their claims? People still refused to believe them.

[@DreamyVibes68]

Lyle not only saved his brother, but he also saved other children from being abused.

[@ClaireLinks]

Lyle is a hero❤

[@dunamisespada7289]

Exactly

[@rl7012]

The gullibility on here is unreal

[@rl7012]

Lyle sexually abused Eric. Did you know that? How does that make him any kind of hero? Lyle slaughtered his parents brutally. Lyle went out celebrating and shopping and had gone through $700 000 before he got arrested.

[@blindsidedbylife143]

@@rl7012 no Lyle did not sexual abuse Erik and There is nothing and no where that’s stated so stop spreading false information stick to what’s actual facts please

[@BruceLee-t9n]

That guy that says revenge killing for sexual abuse is Never Ever Never Ever Justifiable... Has never been abused of any Kind. When someone goes to bed on a full stomach every night, they have No idea how it is to go to bed every night Hungry.

[@adventureviolet]

And their drunk mom who loved guns.... had to have been a violent home 😢😢😢

[@BruceLee-t9n]

@@adventureviolet if their crime or so called crime took place these days, they wouldn't spend even a day behind bars. Maybe just initially detained in a regular jail since that's part of the law in most crime cases

[@adventureviolet]

@@BruceLee-t9n yes!!

[@PetiteFlower333]

He sounds like a perpetrator.

[@BruceLee-t9n]

@@PetiteFlower333 He's Next on the Menendez Brothers' Hitlist 😂

[@patriciaparr5711]

I feel like abuse does justify it. I mean don't rape your children - who can't defend themselves. Why do they act like it's not justified. Don't rape your kids.

[@hareembukhari1358]

Exactly!

[@rl7012]

Yes but they didn't rape their kids. So gullible

[@Tam...]

Right! I can't believe ppl would say it doesn't justify it, especially when it comes to kids....To me hurting kids in violent ways are worse than murder...

[@googleaccount2637]

@@patriciaparr5711 is there any proof or evidence?

[@Uilani-g4m]

@@googleaccount2637 Watch the first trial with all the doctor's records of bodily harm and family testimonies. All those evidence were, then, deemed inadmissable by the judge for the second trial.

[@stay.ne1]

they have been in prison long enough! free the Menendez brothers!

[@punchy1325]

There's loads of killer's in prison some longer than them what makes them so special

[@Cutiepie14jk]

@@punchy1325u haven’t read and learned about the story tho..😅

[@punchy1325]

@Abelone_ That's quite an ignorant statement to make you don't know me. I was around when it happened. I know the story, and I don't have to read it or watch some silly Netflix program, unlike some I'm not a fanboy that panders to Kim k and the other celebrities maybe you do I don't know

[@Cutiepie14jk]

@@punchy1325 im sorry. I don’t know u but I just thought u didn’t know the story since u asked what make them special and that’s just they have been through a lot and they was scared of what’s going to happend that weekend or that week. But ofc I didn’t mean to be mean..

[@stay.ne1]

@@punchy1325 that's true don't get me wrong , but this isn't about somebody else when you pressed this video it said Menendez brothers not some other person. I'm well aware that there are more out there , but it doesn't mean that they don't need freedom. i think everyone deserves freedom even if they are not ' special '

[@NadaAhmed-ms3ur]

I think the issue here is people are so afraid to accept that kind, smart, well-educated, gentle young men can snap in a moment that had a build of a lifetime of horrendous abuse of all forms, not by strangers but at the hands of their own caregivers. We can all capable of doing violent brutal things to ourselves and to others, things we cannot imagine we would ever do. That is the truth, we are human, and no one absolutely no one should be defined by their mistake, especially in those extreme circumstances.

[@BruceLee-t9n]

Even if they're 100% guilty... Which they're Not.... They still spent almost 40 years behind bars. Let these 2 enjoy the rest of their lives

[@karenmbbaxter]

That is my argument too.......about 30% of people still think they are guilty but there is no money left from their family fortune so they should be allowed to be released and just live normal lives.

[@BruceLee-t9n]

@@karenmbbaxter I'm 95% sure they shotgunned their parents cause of years of abuse and feeling trapped. That 5% is cause I didn't see the abuse with my own eyes. Plus they were barely adults. They weren't mature enough to say to themselves hey let's not spend thousands of dollars everyday so we won't look suspicious. It was just a perfect storm of buncha things that shouldn't have happened but did. Including the era. In this day & age, they would of been found innocent or third degree murder, serving 5 to 10 each. This is beyond unfair for them. Their best years are already gone

[@annareyes6840]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@stevetorrez4390]

Lies

[@gayaneg.3805]

Barbara was the worst interviewer…absolutely horrid.

[@elviravillaflor5363]

I agree with Sir Gascon. Hoping they will be free and enjoy every single day of their lives.

[@user-mp4pn3rl4m]

Me too praying for them

[@sheilamaith5873]

Exactly

[@Tam...]

Exactly... They have lost their prime years in prison. That's a life sentence in itself...

[@yugi960]

one thing: FREE THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS!

[@PennyWinchester-z7b]

The part I don’t understand is in the first trial they had a hung jury then second trial life without parole that’s a big difference makes it seem fishy

[@wellthisisinteresting4912]

It’s because the Judge didn’t allow the the defence to present their full case in the second trial. So many of the witnesses were not allowed to testify, including family and experts that evaluated the brothers, as well as the other corroborating evidence such as the nude photos, medical records, etc. this is because the judge was biased and wanted a conviction for the brothers. The fact that OJ Simpson had just gone free made the public very angry with the ‘justice system’ so the judge needed a conviction to look good. It’s horrible

[@cinnxmxnslayer]

That's because the judge, who was the same judge from the first trial, ruled he wouldn't accept the abuse as part of the defense. After OJ walking free, they wanted to hang the brothers to show strength.

[@calvthomas6153]

Right. The aunt's testimony used in the first trial was not allowed in the second trial either. She confirmed two things with her testimony. 1) she was told by one of the brothers at 8yr's old, that he was being touched. 2) That she took him to his mother to report what she had been told, and the mother wouldn't accept it seeming like she already knew. This had the potential to allow them to be charged with Manslaughter at the very least. But without that information being relayed to the jury it was either murder or nothing. The jury went with the straight murder charge because they did commit murder.

[@blindsidedbylife143]

@@PennyWinchester-z7b in my opinion someone close to Jose where he worked had to of known all this and paid the court system off to squash this case and put them in prison forever and never be brought out again and it worked but it’s been 35 years now those people in charge back then are long gone and so is the money that was abundant to Jose’s business colleagues and coverup crew so let them brothers out they served their time! No one that was around back then who were was part of the hidden truth on Jose’s camp is around nowadays so there’s no reason to keep these guys locked up anymore. Sadly money corruption bought by money and the shame it would have brought to Jose’s business empire he was close too prevailed back then and they were shut up locked up and nobody was ever held accountable for any of Jose’s evil wrongdoings because you know dam well even after the murders the would have been at least one person who was still trying to keep it all under lock and key because so much money and other peoples careers were connected to Jose’s business side of it all. And in the early 90’s the amount of money and business dealings Jose and his empire was flowing in could be compared to the Amazon empire wealth and connections nowadays in my opinion

[@PennyWinchester-z7b]

@@blindsidedbylife143 well said completely agree

[@yugi960]

Those defending the parents are talking more about yourselves because with the evidence, the family highlighting the verbal and physical abuse, no one speaks well of jose and kitty... the real monsters are their parents and not them.

[@Clintsessentials]

100

[@timg2998]

I'm sorry but who tf is Alan Abrahmson?!.

[@bellapersephone7187]

Someone trying to stay relevant apparently….

[@lib.777]

He’s a journalist!! Idk why he’s even in here when he’s not a lawyer nor psychologist

[@jamesfestini]

Yeah and Rosie ODonnell

[@blindsidedbylife143]

@@jamesfestini good ol Rosie she always seems to appear randomly in certain situations that she doesn’t seem relevant now doesn’t she lmao 🤣 makes you wonder why and how she could possible be beneficial

[@makeeblah]

What people need to realise, these corrupt acts the parents inflicted on them was wayyy more taboo back then. The phrasing during the trials tells you this much: 'sex with your father' rather than 'raped/molested by your parents'. Even if they had come out and confessed, they would have not been believed and reduced to a laughing stock. Erik probably would have taken his life, and the whole thing could have unfolded much differently. Even after all these years, their stories have remained consistent, family members even testified- and it still wasn't enough because back then the societal view of things such as rape and molestation involving men were not topics of discussion-it was avoided like the plague.

[@ashleywatkins1380]

You're absolutely correct

[@keepitforreally4501]

Yes, it was but these guys did not have a defense or they would’ve never went to prison. Why now are the family member speaking up? Why didn’t they step in and defend them so they did not have to go to prisonwhy now

[@jayboley9683]

No proof of this nonsense. Sounds good since they now have no head or mouth to show em they were spoiled brats

[@melissagarza2376]

@@keepitforreally4501 probably bc the menudo member , Ray, barely came out with his story of being abused/ raped by Jose. Not sure why he did not come out with this earlier. Maybe he was too embarrassed 😞

[@Uilani-g4m]

@@jayboley9683 Did you even follow the first trial? Or do you just watch a 3 minute blurb on MSM and call it in- the- know -of -everything?

[@myrnacox9770]

Eric had a very caring spirit. He did not want to hurt his family, so he took this horrific abuse from the time he was abused. As a child all he wanted was love And acceptance . Instead disappointment , pain Heartache And abuse Over and over. He finally snapped. They had reason To fear For their Lives

[@LuckyStar-rc2dt]

When will they upload the rest?

[@Svetlana-q8k]

Cause and effect. Time served! Free the brothers! 🙏

[@kathiebradley5881]

That journalist isn't a critical thinker. To just blindly have faith in a judicial system that stated "men can't be raped because they dont have the necessary equipment" is just insane. They served 35 years. If they had been sent to prison with a 35-year sentence and got out, no one would be arguing they didn't serve enough time because 35 years is beyond enough. Everyone in that family and people outside the family feared Jose. And the mother...she let that man RAPE her son till he wouldn't take it anymore. Abuse messes you up, Mr. Sport journalist. Rape messes you up. So, when they're released by the court system, just accept it.

[@MiluLeone]

@@kathiebradley5881 omg that quote "men can't be raped" I still can't believe it, that prosecutor was awful. I can imagine if her son would be raped she would be like: "no honey, you can't be raped, don't be silly" it makes me angry

[@blindsidedbylife143]

@@MiluLeone I’ve never heard this but all I’m gonna add is WHAT THE ACTUAL F kind of bs is that completely the worst thing you could say about men who were sexually abused OMG that truly make me so mad 😡

[@MiluLeone]

@@blindsidedbylife143 Right?? I can't believe a prosecutor said men can't be raped, so many people are abused, women and men, she was so rude and ignorant, and she still has no remorse about that, she insulted not only Menendez brothers, but also every boy and man raped

[@blindsidedbylife143]

@@MiluLeone exactly

[@RoseBud76]

I have been looking at the evidence. I believe the brothers. They have served 35 years already. Rape and trauma changes the brain. I think they should be set free.

[@derekdoornbos3883]

18-21 the brain isn't developed 🤣 the apparent study says 25 now so since I was only 17 when I got in trouble can I have it expunged 🤷

[@barbarabreunis7788]

Actually, the study only studied people up to 26, so it's more than likely the brain never stops developing.

[@Gigixcxc]

I’m gonna cry if they will get their freedom meaning I will be so freaking happy!!!!!!! They deserve to get their freedom and find their peace outside the jail bars..

[@mickeyandres2651]

Several stories with zero proof of any of them ……. They shouldn’t be released.

[@Uilani-g4m]

So you didn't follow the first trial, then?

[@MelissaPostma-p5g]

They might be released but what miight hurt their case is the fact he just kept on firing and firing blowing off her face . , that's not self defense. Then they acted like it didn't happen , then attended a basketball game.

[@candiceparr4174]

Immediately bought Rolexes too.

[@mimio7933]

EXACTLY! Their actions don’t state they were defending themselves but they outright slaughtered their parents and splurged after

[@MelissaPostma-p5g]

@@mimio7933iThat's the part I struggle with , but also they both received 2 life sentencess too. Gypsy rose did not receive a life sentence, i believe thats why she got released. There New judge will most likely struggle with those facts too when determining whether they she be released or not.

[@tara-p7w]

That's called fear when you overkill like that!

[@candiceparr4174]

@Tina-i69m No, it's called pre-meditated. Kitty was alive when Lyke delivered that final sh*t. Jose was de*d when Lyle sh*t him in the kneecaps. They were trying to.make it look like a mob h*t

[@alinasandu5839]

Why ? The commited a crime ... regardless of the abuse they didn t have to kill them

[@tyronebiggims1613]

THE BOYS..Why do they keep saying that.. they are old men now..They stole my moped in 1986..Never got it back..

[@pleaseshutup7053]

😂😂😂

[@mymyinspiration9582]

They ain’t getting out.

[@gingersnaps164]

For those asking "why didn't they walk away?' And go where? Why don't people in abusive marriages walk away?

[@lauren1779]

FREE THEM!! 💖 I signed the petition now you go do it!

[@nathmbr3700]

They deserve freedom. I’m praying for them 🙏🏻❤️ Love from France 🇫🇷❤️

[@dixierjohnson2769]

Where is the rest of the story?

[@ashleydavis5557]

Erm it’s been told about 400 times x

[@yugi960]

mmm watch the netflix documentary or other special than this one, lol

[@jayboley9683]

​@@yugi960so it's legit since flix of net mad a movie right? Lol c'mon

[@irmaplantz7082]

Free the Melendez brothers!!!

[@ethanhayward2424]

It’s menendez

[@jayboley9683]

Let them stay with you then

[@Mariabea63]

So much tragedy in that family. I didn’t think Lyle or Erik would ever get a second chance…

[@robertjones8598]

They did have a second trial years ago.

[@annebailor3856]

Why hasn't there been a interview of them recently they're in the same prison?

[@christianr-m.3457]

Spending 700k like nothing on clothes

[@lib.777]

4:45 “Stone cold killers” usually kill with no reason nor emotion. Nobody is justifying the murder not even Lyle and Eric themselves. It’s a fact they killed their parents but the abuse did happen. Their brains are 100% psychologically affected. If half these law professionals had the decency to understand the brain and trauma, they’d be able to distinguish true cold stone killers and people possible of rehabilitation. These boys are also victims and Society failed to see that, they deserved not only a fair conviction but help as well. It’s been 35 years of healing, reflection and pain. It’s time we see them free.

[@Hecoal]

“The abuse did happen” Are your sources TikTok?

[@lib.777]

@@Hecoal Tiktok is not the reason I know this case if that’s what you’re implying. If you don’t believe them just say that.

[@Uilani-g4m]

@@Hecoal So you didn't follow the first trial, then?

[@chris-uh2xo]

why did it take so long for them to review this info if they have had it for a yr?

[@cathymorse8479]

When you are abused you are always in fear of that person! You don’t call the police or tell your teacher because you know if that person finds out you are dead 😢you live in constant fear 😮I know from personal experience

[@Justsoapsreality2024]

We stand with the family let them go free the menendez brothers 😢❤

[@beachbreath2504]

Did I just hear Rosie O’Donnell say at 21 their young brains were not fully grown yet? So how does that compute for all the other young under developed brains making life changing decisions about removing and/or changing their biological sexual organs and/or fetuses? I’m confused, please have Rosie explain.

[@jayboley9683]

Don't listen to Rosie lol. She's not that smart

[@Barbara-jq2se]

Re: comment: 👆I would try but it’d take too long. The male brain if not damaged in a serious way literally doesn’t fully develop till age 25+30 yrs. Don’t ask why. Can’t clearly explain it here.

[@elvispresley7215]

Free the Menendez brothers!!!!!

[@dhcordova5]

At 18 years old, they could have left home but chose to stay. For what?

[@SarahConnor-nj7pq]

Stockholm syndrome is REAL.

[@tara-p7w]

What about the mom?? She could've left too! She could've saved her children from her pdf husband but she chose not to

[@JenP-j4f]

Same reason why many people stay in abusive relationships.

[@charlyssa3219]

Easier said than done. Abused victims feel trapped and feel like they physically cannot leave without the creeping of fear of their abuser killing them in the process. If you’ve never been a victim of abuse, you will be stuck with that narrow mind thinking.

[@dianemasterson2132]

The second trial was fair, justice was served.

[@Dwayne-Mobile1]

Amen

[@Carolyn36-v4e]

How tf was it fair to exclude important evidence??

[@rowyourboat5361]

they were grown young adults. instead of coming together to murder their parents- they could have come together to make a plan to MOVE OUT OF THE HOUSE AND LIVE WITH EACH OTHER. even if they were abused- they were OLD ENOUGH TO MOVE OUT.

[@Barbara-jq2se]

Re: comment: 👆to anyone who truly thinks the brothers are guilty => “walk a mile or two in their shoes to the exact degree & exactly as they tried to exist” in such horrific fearful circumstances that you’re beyond frightened; then maybe we’ll talk. But the fact is that Almighty God sees everything & knows precisely what the results are gonna be.

[@Dwayne-Mobile1]

You and I are only sane ones in this comment section

[@rowyourboat5361]

@@Dwayne-Mobile1 the others are probably relatives and friends.

[@frenchfry5675]

you obviously know nothing about the case. Better to put your foot in your mouth first and read up.

[@mimio7933]

I agree! And unless the parents were in the act of abusing them then they murdered outright.

[@christianr-m.3457]

They were emotionless through so many moments… they’re not innocent 😊

[@LanaMarusic]

Of course they aren't, but the circumstances are to be considered.

[@charlyssa3219]

You’ve never been in their shoes so it’s clear you probably haven’t endured some type of abuse. Victims of abuse end up dissociating when they have to retell their ordeals. Educate yourself next time

[@Musclemachoman]

Those parents were the sickest parents i've ever known so both of them riped their children, that's far beyond disgusting and cruel

[@rl7012]

And you know they did how?

[@melissatucker7036]

The time has come!!! Set them free, they served their time. Truly hoping they get out.

[@danielgoncalves8079]

FREE THEM

[@july7826]

I wonder if that journalist was abuse all his life would he be thinking the same?

[@Nebraskagal]

❤❤ I'm so glad

[@ByRandomChance]

If they were the Menéndez SISTERS they’d have been shown more mercy. It’s disgusting that society believed then and to a lesser extent still believes that boys and men do not and cannot go through SA. My first hospitalization, I was waiting for a transfer when two nurses brought in a strong, 6’3” man under some kind of sedative that they’d just jabbed into him. I overheard he’d been drugged and r***d. A whole foot taller and more than twice my weight. It can happen to ANYONE, and it is a soul killer. I congratulate every survivor who got their revenge, no matter how fatal.

[@ryananthonylondon2071]

Where’s part 2

[@opena1759]

This sends a message that excuses vengeance instead of promoting to leave an abusive home and report ur abuser.

[@christianr-m.3457]

You people believe these monsters… the world we live in

[@charlyssa3219]

And you take their abusers side instead? Your comment alone is all I need to know about you

[@d.263]

I think it's a stretch to say "two of the most infamous killers ever"...ummm there's about 50 serial killers far more infamous. Let's calm down media and keep it all in perspective.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

It’s definitely 2 if the most infamous you picking at grapes

[@d.263]

@@pleaseshutup7053 Picking at grapes? lol...I've never heard that. I guess you could say I'm "splitting hairs".

[@pleaseshutup7053]

@@d.263 yes you ever see a freak eat one grape at a time or pick one off at a time unnecessary. They are definitely infamous they have movies about them people who don’t like watch true crime know who they are and they had one of the biggest trials ever

[@Barbara-jq2se]

I’m feeling quite speechless here. This aired Oct 18, 2024. On 20/20. I’ve checked out other platforms that are showing the movie done about this horrific crime/real life story. I’m getting quite the picture. Those who are stating that the men have actually found Jesus Christ better be 💯% authentic because they’re now representing Jesus’s reputation. 🙏🤦‍♀️🫢PLEASE DEAR JESUS HELP THESE MEN HEAL IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD. I’m asking for this intervention in your precious divine name Jesus Christ Almighty God. Amen.

[@ElizabethRodriguez-nx1mw]

Even the family said the Father was weird abusive mean and maybe a sex abuser

[@christianr-m.3457]

$$$$$

[@yanyant-q1l]

why didnt these guys just move out. they were capable im sure. one of them went to ivy league. just move out and leave

[@Uilani-g4m]

Why don't the abused wives leave their partner?

[@nwill08]

They are grown men, not “boys.”

[@usersc8wf5kl8s]

They were boys when they were being abused and since when is 18 grown? Their parents were grown rapists though. People like you make me so sick.

[@edsr164]

I don’t buy the self-defense story, but I would say that they served enough time

[@tasiareddinger6830]

Where is part 2? I need part 2. Help!

[@deenell9039]

The Menendez Brothers killed their parents, bought cars, jewelry, threw parties and went to basketball games. Victims don't do that. Keep them in jail.

[@jayboley9683]

Don't forget before they were suspects they wanted a book written on how an amazing dad he was lol

[@katenekic3434]

extremely ignorant thing to say

[@Dwayne-Mobile1]

Amen

[@MzTeriberry]

They were not abused what liars they killed there parents and bought tickets to a basketball game etc etc an abused child/ adult doesn't act that way ...the stupidity that they deserve to be free is insane

[@CaptiNClam]

I'm not buying their abuse story. Verbal yeah but nothing more.. they enjoyed that lifestyle but didn't want to be controlled. Both were old enough to move out and get away but didn't. The day on the boat is when I think they planned it all. They are so close it almost makes 1 think they are in love with each other. They do not need to be freed.

[@alinasandu5839]

Agree

[@eshjane]

I agree too.

[@Uilani-g4m]

So you didn't follow the first trial, then? You just heard a blurb on MSM and call it in the know?

[@AnhNguyen-wt3jf]

6:37 wait Lyle never dedicated this song to his parents…

[@googleaccount2637]

Any evidence? These punks were thieves & murderers. Stole over $100,000.00 from neighbors in the 1980s & tried to get their female friend to lie under oath that their dad raped her.

[@jayboley9683]

Exactly there is only hear say. No proof at all. Why would his dad want to molest his own kids when he had the money to do 🌈 acts on whoever he wanted to. They were being taken out of the will. They had to act fast. How do people sympathize with these murderers?

[@Dwayne-Mobile1]

Amen

[@kristinavb4398]

TikTok is not the law , and law does not mean justice

[@Dwayne-Mobile1]

They were adults not kids they could’ve left and had their parents put in prison There is no reason to kill even if you are being abused Stop making excuses for their greed

[@SophiaYanez]

Different times back then.

[@Uilani-g4m]

If those were your boys and you found out their dad was molesting them, you would do what? Call the cops? Report them? And then what? When nothing happens to him?

[@IronHouseBulliesGuanche]

THE STORY OF ERIK AND LIER MENENDES...

[@daisynegrete-ei1fb]

🙏🙏 May they grant their freedom. They suffered their whole life.

[@tammyrunyon4457]

TikTok 🙄 But Yes, The Mendez brothers have served enough time!

[@brendalaguna582]

I need PT. 2 plz!!

[@tinacathey8241]

Here are some things that still stand out. These young men, not boys had family, money and cars they could have left and got a job and took their parents to court. If the abuse was so bad why stay? 18 and 20 year old planned this murder, then blamed the mafia. Then Lyle molested his own brother. Lyle should not get out of prison. Eric I'm not sure, of course the abuse was wrong! But they had a away out and never took it. How many kids in this world are being abused and have no way out. Sorry brothers I think you made a bad choice. You picked murder over leaving and let the law deal with it. No remorse, lots of spending money and you are going to say it's not about money hmmmm.

[@Dwayne-Mobile1]

amen

[@sekamalena918]

Yes , i am with you on this !

[@mrsflyeaglesfly]

Yes, and all the steps they took to try to cover their tracks, like picking up the shell casings, trying to establish an alibi, and the fake 911 call.

[@mimmofonda]

Lyle was a confused 7 yo when it happened to him and Erik. He was a confused boy who was so distraught thinking it was normal to do it since his father did it to him.

[@mimmofonda]

So are you going to say that to victims of domestic violence? It is not easy to just leave everything and go. It is scary. Their brains have been corrupted by their monster parents at a very young age.

[@d.263]

For me it's not so much whether they were justified in the killings, but the fact they did NOT receive a fair 2nd trial, the judge acted with blatant bias, and the media helped make them infamous thereby poisoning any chance of an untainted jury. Everyone deserves a fair trial, and it didn't happen.

[@TheRoyalNewspaper]

Exactly. I don't care about TikTok or the people thirsting after them. Bottom line is, the 2nd trial was handled very poorly. That alone should get them another trial or resentencing. Especially since the jurors of the 2nd trial said that if they were able to hear about the abuse prior to the penalty phase, they would have never voted for life without parole.

[@seles_sohal]

Seriously they served their time. Free them now

[@RosemaryAdams-ou1xi]

I'm sorry but rather these two brothers was rape or not isn't the question here. These two boys was at a age of hat that they could of went to the police and told them what was going on or even a family members who could of took them in , it isn't like they couldn't of hid a video and took it to the police .these boys had money and they were 16and over.i could understand when these boys was little they wasn't in control.and why kill the mother was she raping them too,if they was too scare because of the father maybe the mother was too scare to help when she wanted to.but these two brothers thought they could killed the parents and live it up with the money.

[@Uilani-g4m]

So if these were your boys, you would just report it to the cops? You believe in our justice system that much?

[@RosemaryAdams-ou1xi]

@@Uilani-g4m what I expect is like the 17year old girl who went out the window and called 911when she, and her 14 brothers and sisters that their mom and dad had chain up for years did different where this girl who was home school had enough knowledge to take a old phone and take pictures and the cops went in and found children chain up ,then two rich boys who had a car ,went to school could have had different ways to end the abuse then kill their parents.after the two boys did the murder they went on a spending spree with their parents money.this is what is wrong with this world,the judges let people out every time someone does some kind of criminal activity and they continue to do more crime's.and if it was one of my kids that did a crime I would turn them in because right is right and wrong is wrong it doesn't matter who they are.

[@halon7476]

Always the most controversial crimes and events emerge from LA.

[@visions3]

Alan Brahamson says that abuse does not justify a revenge killing, sounds like something a abuser would say

[@jackiehill458]

You guys are disgusting saying they are Serial killers 🤬😡🤦🏻‍♀️ Sexual abuse from age six 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Uilani-g4m]

This is why I hate MSM. They promote narratives, rather, then truth

[@Loop_0]

What is a the guy at 4:46 doing in this I goggled him and it says he is a sports writer

[@dee24680]

Alan Abrahamson, covered the trial for the LA Times so a KTLO article says

[@9001012]

journalist

[@Loop_0]

@@dee24680 still find it weird being most of his work is sports

[@dee24680]

@@Loop_0 agree

[@dee24680]

@@Loop_0 The best journalist re the Menendez brothers is Robert Rand. He's actually put the effort in to find evidence and facts. Robert Rand has also covered the story from the beginning.

[@angelijaw8756]

hello. Why can't people outside the UK, USA and so on sign the petition? Please give people from Europe the opportunity to sign the petition. There will be many who will sign it ♥ Greetings from Poland

[@rl7012]

Yeah the gullible live everywhere.

[@sandraadornetto438]

For those that say abuse does not excuse murder thats because so many men do this, maybe their afraid, but more sickening, their devoid of how abuse is violent. Those parents died almost instantly, while the boys abuse was methodical, sadistic and even worse being boys. It makes me seethingly sick how people want to look at that like it was nothing. Their parents created a slow painful death to their children's souls.

[@corbin22zac]

Wheres part ?

[@corbin22zac]

2*

[@phoebesmom]

Your guilt for supposedly never speaking out against kitty and Lyle Senior for supposedly abusing their sons so badly and Lyle seniors sexually assaulting his sons so badly and the parent family never speaking out. Your guilt is pitiful, trying to make amends letting these deranged killers out. I don’t think the public will be too happy with you people at the end of the day not any of you.

[@lydiatrujillo7303]

Free the brothers

[@tombae757]

Where are the relatives from the father's side?

[@liadstrik5600]

Yes his sister and her daughter

[@Hamnyang0613]

His nephew Anamaria was at press-conference. His sister Marta send message. Every single relative from father’s side believe and support the brothers actually

[@MiluLeone]

Even José and Kitty relatives are on Brothers side! they know they were victims

[@rl7012]

Their uncle (mums brother) thinks they should stay in jail.

[@MiluLeone]

@@rl7012 So only one relative against them versus 52 relatives supporting the brothers.

[@BonBon770]

I think all these comments on all these Menendez brother, KZbin videos are fake.I don't know how many people can believe that these little rich brats didn't kill their parents, for money.Of course their story didn't change their professional liars, Is over everybody's head what a joke

[@Uilani-g4m]

Well, if they killed them for money, they sure weren't discreet about it. The joke is on you, really. You are too gullible as you buy into MSM narratives, rather, than, actually follow the trials. But a 3 minute blurb from MSM is enough for you to be in the know, right?

[@michaelvitali6813]

Will never wa😢20/20 again as long as David is hosting.

[@oditorres9659]

JUSTICE for MENENDEZ BROTHERS

[@rl7012]

Their dad was cutting them out of his $18 million dollar will. They had been stealing from their neighbours who found out and told their dad. The only sex abuse that happened was lyle mollesting Eric. There is zero evidence of sex abuse from the dad and they only started claiming it many months after their arrest. They told their therapist four months after the murders that they killed their dad because he was unfaithful to their mum and they killed their mum to 'put her out of her misery'.

[@EM-mw2qr]

EXACTLY!!!

[@jayboley9683]

Both brothers were playing butt 🎯 on the daily. Problem was Dad found out

[@EM-mw2qr]

@@jayboley9683 😂😂😂

[@usasupersoccer]

They seem very confident for two people who were abused and raped... both Menendez are arrogant, in interviews they seem to have attitude, they are extremely confident of themselves. To me this does not seem like the profile of two people who suffered so much abuse. I do not believe them, people use the argument of their defense to prove a non-existent narrative. There is no evidence of abuse... the letter could have easily been fabricated. All the testimonies are empty, no one can prove that they are telling the truth. The Menendez brothers have a criminal record, even before the murders. The former member of Menudo only mentioned Jose Menendez last year, after the case went viral on TikTok. In several past interviews he always accused Edgardo Diaz. I do not know why people like the Menendez brothers so much, they are cowardly murderers.

[@Dwayne-Mobile1]

Amen

[@h2oquality2010]

Yes.

[@LanaMarusic]

They are extremely confident, because they were taught to be that way. Their father didn't accept anything less. From early childhood they were trained to be successful. And if they weren't they would be punished.