Abu Garcia Zata - Very Meh when compared to the Shimano SLx DC and Daiwa Tatula 100

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Tackle Advisors

Tackle Advisors

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@taylormarcel
@taylormarcel 3 жыл бұрын
So u gay? I Lang 🤣
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lang! Nice to meet you... And no I'm not gay... Lmao
@taylormarcel
@taylormarcel 3 жыл бұрын
@@TackleAdvisors 🤣 I love it!!!
@yanoptimus6943
@yanoptimus6943 5 ай бұрын
Sougayilang is tackle brand reel and rod low budget
@slabslapper8507
@slabslapper8507 11 ай бұрын
Dude seeing all those broke down reels and scattered parts causes extreme anxiety haha, please make more videos bro
@TheLogic497
@TheLogic497 3 жыл бұрын
FYI for anyone looking at the Zata, it was also rebranded as the Roxani for the USDM market. Sold as combos at Bass Pro during their fathers day sale.
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
I knew a stripper that went by that name....
@TheLogic497
@TheLogic497 3 жыл бұрын
@@TackleAdvisors I must say, this stripper knows their way around a pole
@pacman_17
@pacman_17 3 жыл бұрын
I always learn a lot from your "lectures". Awesome breakdown of the Japanese vs the generic Lews and Abu braking systems. I've been doing a lot of research on casting performance between these reels. You've explained it better than anyone on the fishing forums. Keep ranting, keep lecturing, keep up the great content.
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
Factor in spool size and it gets even weirder.. Lol.. I like this brake in the revo beast 40...didnt like it all that much with the 50/60...go figure
@Honks34
@Honks34 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I'm like the exact opposite. I've ditched almost all of my Japanese reels in favor of Abu. My Curado DC can't touch my Revo AL-F. Far superior casting and several ounces lighter. You're spot on with the IVCB braking from Abu. I wish they'd put it in more of their reels.
@matthewotis3594
@matthewotis3594 2 жыл бұрын
Still can't touch magforce z braking from Diawa
@Honks34
@Honks34 2 жыл бұрын
Yet the MGX platform out casts any Daiwa.
@brandone9507
@brandone9507 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you call them out for being a "marketing company". An all plastic reel for that price is robbery.
@texasvet7241
@texasvet7241 3 жыл бұрын
I like Lew’s reels over Abu for one reason. Lew’s provides so much support for the military and veterans organizations. The reels themselves are okay. I have a few SLX DC’s and they’re just okay. I like the fact that with Lew’s I can get a reel that weighs less than 5 oz. without taking out a second mortgage.
@Thisisrance
@Thisisrance 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong… but the frame is graphite, not plastic
@micheleg8809
@micheleg8809 3 жыл бұрын
When are you going to review the vanford?
@shiftyeyes67k
@shiftyeyes67k 3 жыл бұрын
SV BOOST actually works! I've been playing with it for a few days now comparing to OG steez sv tw in casting distance.... but nothing groundbreaking. Looking forward to your review when you get it in 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
@bittabrutha31
@bittabrutha31 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t stand the worm gear hitting your finger when palming Revos but I do love the Black Max gen 3 ( excellent palming)
@Benjamin-S
@Benjamin-S 3 жыл бұрын
This new Zillion SV TW really seems interesting to me. The fact that it's made in Japan is awesome. Also, did you know it has a clicky drag? I've spoken to a guy who've bought one and he said it has clicky drag. That is really cool honestly...but I kind of wish they would've done that with the Alphas Air TW instead.
@ctgilcrest
@ctgilcrest 3 жыл бұрын
enjoy your videos. one of the few you tube channels i look forward to.
@handyandqu
@handyandqu 3 жыл бұрын
when the zata casting combo was ~$160 on black friday. I said to myself wow that reel is over priced and since the reel has been in the 120s on amazon since September, combine that with this review and well seems like it wasn't wrong. When something is always on sale, it's never on sale, it's worth that amount. Review was about what I expected.
@sloughsharkseh3307
@sloughsharkseh3307 3 жыл бұрын
Merry christmas! Have you tried the penn low profile, I've heard mixed reviews, and I have always loved their spinning reels. Was just wondering if you have got your hand on it yet, or if you plan on it?
@AlexPerez-ps5jy
@AlexPerez-ps5jy 3 жыл бұрын
Penn is sick there penn battle looks great
@kevinblack6399
@kevinblack6399 3 жыл бұрын
The Korean company that makes lews is the same one making the low profile penn. love me some penn’s but that ain’t it, chief.
@sloughsharkseh3307
@sloughsharkseh3307 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinblack6399 Good to know, thanks for the advice.
@AlexPerez-ps5jy
@AlexPerez-ps5jy 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinblack6399 I don’t really like lews tho
@crazyfishingdude
@crazyfishingdude 3 жыл бұрын
I would never spend that much on a reel with a graphite frame 😂
@loganvick3385
@loganvick3385 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter at all there is no flex whatsoever in graphite reels now a days
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe not that much in baitcasting reel side plates... But spinning and baitcasting reel frames there can be.... Noticeable in some during the hotter months
@taylormarcel
@taylormarcel 3 жыл бұрын
@@loganvick3385 but the problem is for that price, there shouldn’t be a graphite frame dude
@tonybishop51
@tonybishop51 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s pronounced zah TAH! Like ahah! lol And the paint job looks like a north korean jeep
@youtubzkoz
@youtubzkoz 3 жыл бұрын
The feathering of the reel is definitely interesting, is it different between the slx and curado DCs?
@jamesbeltran2599
@jamesbeltran2599 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a review of the lunkerhunt bedlam. Can't find any reviews on KZbin, and your really detailed. Appreciate the work you put into your videos. Thank you
@russnicholas6796
@russnicholas6796 3 жыл бұрын
I think Abu were better when it was actually forged and machined in Sweden I’ve probably got 10 Abu reels mostly oldies and they’ve been used and abused I live in the uk and it’s incredibly difficult to get Abu reels serviced anymore for some reason I have some shimano reels and I really like them I asked my local tackle dealer if he could order a 300 curado for me and he just started laughing He says they can’t get anything from Japan at the moment or for the near future 😶 Fantastic job you do and I love watching but a lot of the technical stuff goes over my head... but I’m learning slowly so I thank you sincerely for that I have cast some very nice reels and I’d like to get something really well made one day Post pandemic most likely 😬 All the very best for the new year 🍀🌞🌞
@helotaxi
@helotaxi 3 жыл бұрын
If you make a good magnetic or a centrifugal brake, you certainly don't need both. I bought the Lew's, Abu, Shimano and Daiwa offerings in the $130 range for a comparison video and I guess the Abu would be ok if the Tatula CT and SLX XT weren't a thing but since they are, the Abu falls short...and the Lew's was way worse.
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@willtrax71
@willtrax71 2 жыл бұрын
Damn anything at 100 bucks should have an Aluminum Frame I would think. I do have a Caius and like it quite a bit but it was 34 bucks new without a box on the EBay.
@gwittner
@gwittner 3 жыл бұрын
You're ABSOLUTELY right! Merry Christmas 🎄
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas to you as well!
@MrKveite1
@MrKveite1 3 жыл бұрын
ABU was great back in the 80's and have never been great since imo
@fantomphoenix6170
@fantomphoenix6170 3 жыл бұрын
Just looking at the Ambassadeurs you can tell that they went a bit down hill with those
@MrKveite1
@MrKveite1 3 жыл бұрын
@@fantomphoenix6170 times change and so does reels to a certain degree i guess.
@braddeford563
@braddeford563 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an overview of the Zata spinning reel
@jeisonhansson
@jeisonhansson 3 жыл бұрын
The Abu garcia reels does NOT say "Swedish engineering". It says "By appointment to H.M. the king of sweden". What that means is that abu is a court supplier to the Swedish royal family. Their products are being used by the Swedish king, and that's why they are allowed to use that crest and phrase on their products.
@konradherrmann7195
@konradherrmann7195 3 жыл бұрын
The zata does actually say "swedish engineering" on it, along with the crest.
@AC-mr7is
@AC-mr7is 3 жыл бұрын
@@konradherrmann7195 It also has a chrome sticker that says Made In China lmao
@konradherrmann7195
@konradherrmann7195 3 жыл бұрын
@@AC-mr7is it does as well
@rottenrottie1515
@rottenrottie1515 3 жыл бұрын
Debating on a penn battle 3 Dx 4000 or a tsunami evict 4000.What do you think ? For California delta striped bass
@noahjohns7954
@noahjohns7954 3 жыл бұрын
Both are good
@richardhernandez9249
@richardhernandez9249 3 жыл бұрын
Lews & Abu same breaking system , Duckett, Okuma same internal breaking dial. H2O xpress ethos bait caster all aluminum 6.6oz has a different looking break system and they are affordable. Would you be able to review that reel with a break down. Thank you
@jonathanspadafore7599
@jonathanspadafore7599 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Lew's Mach pro combo. The roxani combo that Abu makes and I also have a Shimano chronarch on a st.croix victory rod. The chronarch is about 270$ compared to the zata/roxani and mach's for 150$ but it's definitely in the framing. The chronarch for an extra 100$ I don't think I'd purches if it didn't have an aluminum frame. The roxani/zata and Lew's combos cast almost as good and feel almost as smooth. The issue I have is when I hook a bass or accidentally hook a musky I can 100% feel weakspots in my frames on both Lew's and Abu
@jonathanspadafore7599
@jonathanspadafore7599 2 жыл бұрын
Shimano certainly feels better in my hand. I absolutely love the chronarch but for 150$ for the combo of both the Lew's Mach and zata you can't really beat it. If I ever buy reels by themselves now I always stay away from graphite frames. When I fish a frog on the Lew's or Abu for example and I'm really giving fish the beans I can absolutely feel it through my whole hand. Where as when I use the aluminum frame shimano for example I know what to expect Everytime I set the hook and for that feeling to be the same Everytime.
@customfitment9396
@customfitment9396 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a ZATA spinning ?? What are the price comparison from the reels you are comparing it to? The vowel A makes the A say its name
@logicalrationalfishing7481
@logicalrationalfishing7481 3 жыл бұрын
You are without a doubt the best reel review channel. I like some of the others too, but they have different agendas and seem biased (not only in reels but add other stuff to their channel)...
@mikesutterfield5901
@mikesutterfield5901 3 жыл бұрын
Vanford would be great because it seems so similar to the Ci4+. Now it’s a premium price over the FL. Is it worth it?
@xCruZChaos
@xCruZChaos 3 жыл бұрын
If you care about weight savings, then yeah get the Vanford. If you don’t care too much about being ultra lightweight, then the FL is still a fantastic choice.
@daves485
@daves485 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with Daiwa and shimano seem to be limited left hand retrieves, shimano does but it seems in a 8.2 1 ratio!
@H8er-Maker
@H8er-Maker 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda like the way it looks. Any baitcaster under $400 these days is gonna have that plastic feel to it. The manufacturers have several names for plastic also carbon is my favorite. It's a sign of the times. My 2 yr old type R feels more solid than the new 1. There's more plastic in everything, but the plastic is better than it used to be.
@briansumma528
@briansumma528 3 жыл бұрын
Have you looked at the Daiwa CA80 yet? I’ve been seeing those go for well under MSRP and to me it looks like a Doyo/Lew’s/Abu.
@buddybeavers2691
@buddybeavers2691 2 жыл бұрын
So your saying it's over built which is a negative?
@NashFishingChannel
@NashFishingChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Make a video comparing the new zillion vs metanium 2020 please 😁
@soupclan1373
@soupclan1373 3 жыл бұрын
I am the exact same way with being a diawa and shimano guy I recently purchased the tatula 100h because i couldnt find a shimano slx dc in bass pro shop when i was there and the very next day they were in stock and i ended up driving the 2 hours again just to get it so now i have both and they are all i use now i have even sold off my other baitcasters such as my lews and my 13f inception because once i went to shimano and diawa i couldnt go back normally when im saltwater fishing ill use a diawa or a shimano like the nasci 5000 and the diawa baitrunner do yoy have any other cheaper shimano or diawa baitcaster recommendations to expand my collection
@garylawlor2288
@garylawlor2288 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree about the lack of a level wind giving far greater distance. I too enjoy surf casting, or beach casting as is said in my side of the world, and I would never use a level wind as the distance reduction is huge. CT cage all the way for this style. What you cast from the shore bud?
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! I throw a bunch of stuff... Tricked out Trinidad with a knobby... Tricked mag elite... Avet sx... Omoto chief extreme tricked out.... Tranx 500 lexa 400... Pretty much whatever I'm in the mood for depends on of I'm plugging or chunking.... Tranx 500 comes out around sticky bottom... 4' per crank gets rigs clear quickly
@nhfishing1445
@nhfishing1445 3 жыл бұрын
Review the penn squall and fathom lp
@otroflores91
@otroflores91 3 жыл бұрын
I've already seen the 400 fathom catch school tuna under 30lb and tasty rockfish. I bought a squall 400 but only caught a few inshore fish. Biggest being a 10lb halibut. Which it just winced in. Only dislike the bad finish on the bottom of the levelwind hood. Tapers into a sharp bottom. Tranx, lexas, and the fathom all have this same area nice and smooth.
@zoomzoomgt
@zoomzoomgt 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a review on the quantum accurist s3 casting reel also the diawa ca80. And which would u pick of the 2
@jacobperez5977
@jacobperez5977 2 жыл бұрын
Love the look of the ZATA just wish it was better quality
@chaycequintana1928
@chaycequintana1928 2 жыл бұрын
Dont get the gripes with graphite. Never had a problem with it
@owk6405
@owk6405 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, when you said you prefer the Abu's IVCB 6 brake than the shimano idc 4 and daiwa SV spool braking system. I am curious how does the IVCB 6 comparing with the Shimano SVS infinity braking system? Since both of them are centrifugal brake. Does is sensitive to wind? How does both of them perform when casting toward a mild breeze? Does the IVCB 6 cast further than the SVS infinity? Because I had changing a lot of reel to find out which braking system I love the most. I had a tatula SV for finesse and power finesse fishing, I love the way the SV spool perform. I need a bigger reel for casting 1/2 oz to 1 1/4oz lure. I had tried SLX DC, not the reel I like, doesn't like the braking system. I had tried Daiwa tatula 100 without SV spool, doesn't like it either. I had tried the magnetic Magtrax braking system, not a very dynamic caster. Sorry for the long story, but I really want to know before I purchase, I have an eye on Curado K, Tranx 200, and Abu Garcia STX, still can't decided which to get. I scare I get the wrong one again
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
The mgxtreme easily outcast the prev gen Antares in every test outside wacky rig senkos. Same with the Steez sv tws which came in second most of the time. Not clue if the stx brake is the same as mgx... I really only used mgx and up abus.
@owk6405
@owk6405 3 жыл бұрын
@@TackleAdvisors thanks for taking time to reply my message, really appreciate it! :-) Mgx has the IVCB4 while STX has the IVCB6, both are centrifugal brake, but different of 4 pins and 6 pins of centrifugal brake pin and different spool weight, mgx has a 10g spool; STX has a 17g spool. I will mostly casting lure that 5/8 oz and above. I also watched your casting test on the Shimano Tranx 200, very promising too. Still can't decided tranx 200 or STX.
@garylawlor2288
@garylawlor2288 3 жыл бұрын
I have a gen 3 Pro max and it looks very similar in design to this reel but Pro max only half the price. Not perfect but as a combo with a little jerkbait rod for 87 Euro it looks a better prospect than the above reel.
@hokanut
@hokanut 7 ай бұрын
Now that was a review. Subbed.
@grandfishing590
@grandfishing590 3 жыл бұрын
The fishing reel industry is either you get Shimano, Daiwa, Doyo reels, or some crap OEM reel. But you have to pay big bucks to have reels made in Japan. Oh and the marketing that reels will last of life time if you take care it’s is kinda BS considering companies will stop making parts around the 10 year mark even for the highest of end reels.
@weslycarter1326
@weslycarter1326 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the Lews Pro Ti. Are you going to review it?
@ForYeshua1
@ForYeshua1 3 жыл бұрын
I have the new Steez LTD coming in also. What type of bearings will it have? Abec7?
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
No clue...And wow...I just realized I haven't even given a thought about abec ratings in a loooong time.
@ForYeshua1
@ForYeshua1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TackleAdvisors Do you swap all your bearings out for ceramic? Or just leave them stock and use a good oil?
@Blazenenyeismith1234
@Blazenenyeismith1234 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review on the Abu maxpro baitcast reel
@novaday8813
@novaday8813 3 жыл бұрын
That green is FUGLY. Gawddamn lmao
@rolandmcclendon1394
@rolandmcclendon1394 3 жыл бұрын
Lew's and abu garcia are made in the DOYO FACTORY in Australia
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
Australia is in China?
@Guilherme-SV
@Guilherme-SV 3 жыл бұрын
South Korea.
@davidalley7270
@davidalley7270 2 жыл бұрын
I bought 3 Shimano SLX reels brand new off Ebay and they constantly backlash, even with all brakes on. I've read they are factory rejects, hence the cheaper price. Abu Garcia on the other hand, I love the Revo x, best real ever. One big flaw, the side plates flew off for no reason and went in the lake. Any suggestions?
@matthewrodbourn2857
@matthewrodbourn2857 Жыл бұрын
Nope, I have a slx from a shop, it’s backlash city and casts about 2 feet. They’re just crap. I have a cheap abu black max that’s 5 years old, been dunked in salt and still out performs it in every way.
@nathanjones399
@nathanjones399 3 жыл бұрын
Which reels are the best from greatest to worst
@LatvianPagan999
@LatvianPagan999 Жыл бұрын
What's the comfort casting weights with this reel?
@nickylandry2746
@nickylandry2746 3 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas thanks for The video
@mikesutterfield5901
@mikesutterfield5901 3 жыл бұрын
FYI new subscriber. Love the vids and your realist delivery.
@ship4427
@ship4427 3 жыл бұрын
Use mine for frogging and love it. $150 on amazon.
@wilsonlourenco1339
@wilsonlourenco1339 3 жыл бұрын
Those are both made from a factory in Korea meaning the lew's and the abu
@Charactermatters650
@Charactermatters650 3 жыл бұрын
Lew Abu? Ha ha...Love my Shim Scorpion DC, but still fishing two Revo’s heavily for several years now and they fish well - agreed on this reel though, also that drag on a baitcaster is just not important for what we all pretty much use it for, except maybe the lucky hook up with a big pike or musky. If I am going to be relying on drag, I am using a good spincasting reel.
@pistolpete2286
@pistolpete2286 3 жыл бұрын
Any plans on doing a Shimano Calcutta B one of these days? I'd love to hear your thoughts on them.
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
I'll do a C, but not lookin to do anything on the B.
@pistolpete2286
@pistolpete2286 3 жыл бұрын
@@TackleAdvisors I'm not familiar with the Calcutta C, do you have a model # in specific by any chance that you're thinking of? Either way I look forward to it! Thanks for taking the time to reply.
@smittn21
@smittn21 3 жыл бұрын
Need some advice about maximum heavy duty drag system in a low profile bait casting reel - witch is your top ?
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
I think the revo beast brings the biggest and baddest in a low pro
@smittn21
@smittn21 3 жыл бұрын
@@TackleAdvisors How about video with battle of more powerful drag system in low pro?
@guywithagoprofishingshow3011
@guywithagoprofishingshow3011 3 жыл бұрын
Holy Smokes that Mach and Zata when you had them side by side,handle side plate view,They are Identical,because they are Doro,ain't it?Or Doyo?I can't keep up with the South China Sea freshwater Mfg.Aren't both the Mach Crush & Zata a 7 speed platform?I tell ya the Revo X 4 x-w is an $100 paperweight after a year of ownership and not even fished that hard.I'm not buying any more Abu-just Diawa,Shimano & even "Pissy-Fun" has decent engineers for budget-friendly Chinese-ium.Merry Christmas,dude
@bittabrutha31
@bittabrutha31 2 жыл бұрын
Only problem I have with Abu is the worm gear screw in the way when I palm it. Deal Breaker ! 🤷🏾‍♂️
@homerhiers6086
@homerhiers6086 3 жыл бұрын
What would be a good beginners baitcasting reel? Probably less than $150?
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
I'd take a gander at the tatula 100. Very nooby friendly braking system that is 100% externally adjustable. It's a great platform
@ronnysjolund5717
@ronnysjolund5717 3 жыл бұрын
How about this reels for a little bit bigger baits, would the abu be better then? thinking about buying a baitcaster for my wife and she loves green stuff^^ We fish for pike mainly.
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
I'd go with the Curado or Tranx 200 for bigger baits. IF baits are a bit more resistant. You'd appreciate the squishy handle knobs of the curado. I'm not in love with the svs infinity brake...but it's still very good and capable. And the curado has some green to it :)
@ronnysjolund5717
@ronnysjolund5717 3 жыл бұрын
@@TackleAdvisors yeah i fish the Tranx 300 and the curado 300e myself and they are workhorses.... Love Shimano reels👍
@bradenhopkins8017
@bradenhopkins8017 3 жыл бұрын
DO THE NEW LOW PROFILE PENNS
@sk8ervader
@sk8ervader 3 жыл бұрын
I’m willing to bet Lews and Abu are made in the same Chinese factory.
@cottojn
@cottojn Жыл бұрын
First off thank you for making this great video. I have a few questions. 1. What are your thoughts on the Veritas reel? 2. Shimano Slx dc what is the difference between the 6.3.1, the 7.2.1, and 8.2.1? I just bought the Abu Garcia Black max (To be clear I don’t Ming spending money of high quality equipment) however unlike hunting fish is all new to me. The Black max I got at Walmart on hidden sale for $30. Great deal but I appreciate craftsmanship and starting out in the fishing sport I don’t want to dish xxxx money on something just to fish in fresh water ponds, creeks, rivers. I want to upgrade but for the I’m fish I’d like to get something very nice with out over doing it like overkill. Can you please help.
@jonasp5257
@jonasp5257 3 жыл бұрын
Man I love your Videos. Always very interesting and I’ve learned a lot about reel watching your channel. Recently I discovered a very nice reel called FlashCast made by Tica. I payed 55€ for it and it’s so far the best reel I bought in this price range. Super smooth and very lightweight. Have you ever heard of it?
@emmpak
@emmpak 3 жыл бұрын
Daiwa steez limited is on backorder till March according to plat japan.
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
I have tracking and japan lureshop already confirmed its on its way
@emmpak
@emmpak 3 жыл бұрын
@@TackleAdvisors what gear ratio 6:3?
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
I forget 6 or 7
@88jbc
@88jbc 3 жыл бұрын
@@TackleAdvisors Cant wait to see your review on it. I got my new zillion sv tw today and i like it alot. For me, i feel like its smoother than my previous steez out of the box. Cant wait to get my hands on the steez lt
@Benjamin-S
@Benjamin-S 3 жыл бұрын
@@88jbc I've heard it has a clicky drag from a guy who got his. Does your Zillion SV TW have one? Just want to hear it from more than one source.
@rider660r
@rider660r 3 жыл бұрын
I don't care what type of brake it has,only time I use them is to get used to the reel.Every reel is different,even by a little and even if it's the same model and brand.Once I'm used to it all brakes are off except the spool tensioner,I still use that so in case something happens or whatever right before I cast and abort the cast and I happen to take my thumb off the spool it doesn't over run. Say I went to cast and my coffee tips over and instead of casting I bend down to pick it up before it all spills out.....or a beer or drop a lit cig in the boat...LOL Actually I'll try to stay away from the mag brakes because they just add to the price for something I don't need.Also isn't any way I'm spending that sort of $$ on a reel I use for casting 1/32 and 1/16oz jigs to Crappies and Bream,I'll stick to the Shimano Caius 151.May get a Daiwa CR80HSL to try.If I'm fishing salt I may spend more for a salt reel,not the braking system.For now the old Shimano Citica 201b is still doing me just fine.It's fished for everything from Crappie/Bream to Striper,Carp,to Red/Black Drum and everything else in-between since I bought it all those years ago. Shimano and that computer controlled mag,I have to laugh at those and the users that think they need and dish out the extra $$100 for them....LOL! Nothing like hooking a Basser every time with new gear and a high price tag..LOL BTW,I have some ocean front property in North Dakota if anyone is interested...
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
I've yet to meet someone who can achieve the same distance and consistency with no brakes on. Most people that I know that fish brake free usually do so with spool tension high and spool bearings which are gunked up. I for one will never use spool tension. Right off the bat it impacts accuracy, increases start up inertia, and changes the baits trajectory off the rod tip. I don't understand the thought process of avoiding mag brakes due to it being an added cost. You can buy a mag braked reel for 30$. Many higher end reels us centrifugal brakes. DC braked reels aren't perfect. But they'r'e fun. And will outperform even the most educated thumb. Give some dc equipped reels a rip and a curl of line will come up over the spool about an inch and maintain that to the apex....teetering on the virge of an over run. You can't do that with your thumb. Maybe with a monomag knobby. But that's throwing 600' plus. DC to someone who's never used a dc braked reel. Is just fun. The sound it makes is unique. As is it's performance. Additionally, fishing thinner lines makes the task even more difficult due to the feed rate not decreasing as much as higher diameter lines. Go up in line diameter, it's easier to go lower in brake. Add oil and spool tension you can go even lower. Then there is the risk...use .003 diameter line and over run....it's game over. Braking is very important. Have a mid cast lockup...you either break of or need to cut that line off. And you can't even throw ultralight baits with any spool tension with any accuracy. Even an errant drop of oil will negatively impact performance and consistency. And it's all about fun and being more efficient. I don't know anyone who targets crappie with bfs gear.
@rider660r
@rider660r 3 жыл бұрын
@@TackleAdvisors Not many can do it I know,not many have fished casters for around 30 yrs either.Like I said,the tension is just there so if I need to do something as I was going to cast,and it's only set enough to keep it from overrunning when it hits the ground,deck as it should be set.When I cast for crappie and bream no I can't get it in a coffee can all the time at 20 -30yds but give me a 5gal bucket and it'll be around 50%. My thought process is on the extra $ for the mag brakes is just I don't need to pay for something I don't need and sure as hell ain't paying around $100 for that stupid DC crap.Like anything,electronics,are subject to failure a lot more often than anything mechanical.Also I doubt the DC system is somehow less weight than a regular spool in needing to have magnets to create the small electrical charge though the coils..The heavier the spool the more inertia it needs to overcome to start and stop the cast.A lot of heavy line on a spool isn't good to cast light lures/baits. I use 8# braid on the 151.Am I going to throw a 2 oz lure or even a 1oz with it...no.I'm using it to cast 1/32 and 1/16oz jigs under a Trout Magnet float. Not knowing anyone doesn't mean they're not out there.I know a a good many welders that are "certified" and yet weld worth crap,I welded with many.Also know many mechanics that are "ASE Cert" and the majority of them are just part swappers and have no diagnostic ability unless they plug a computer into a new vehicle.But there are many good welders out there and mechanics...just because one doesn't know one or can't do it themself doesn't mean they're not there or anyone else can't either. Your vids are good and very informative,I watch many of them.But I'll disagree here because I'm not one that has seen it,I do it all the time been doing it for many years.I'm even swapping out all my small spinners and going the casting route because it's quicker to cast and is more accurate than a spinner,also have less "windknots" that form from multiple ways that you have to do with a spinner to keep from getting them.That's why I want to try a 70 or 80 size reel to see if it's better than the 151.Sorta thinking it isn't because the dia of the spool is more than the 151,but I'll see.
@quinthiggins5975
@quinthiggins5975 3 жыл бұрын
Let me ask you . As a long time user of Abu round bait casters as I am . What do you think about the last 10 years of development of low profile reels made by any manufacturer- hint unnameable. I never made the switch to these . I understand the casting and accuracy. The durability has always been my concern especially when catching large fish. And I know there are some out there that can. I feel as if everybody’s buying into the hype of what these types of reels have become in the last 10 years. Especially the high gear ratio. Iv always and I mean always have gotten large fish to hit with low gears for 40 years . So if your reel is weak in structure it makes sense to catch small stuff . Really like what you do . Where do you see the market going in ten years for these long time companies. One other question how does the 6500 beast from Abu brake with the magnetize bearings that it seems to have. Thanks for the good work.
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
Good question. Not a ton of innovation over the last few decades in any aspect of fishing equipment. Gear ratios are just that....gear ratios. While I don't like 20"ipt retreieves personally.....I also don't need to crank 4 feet of line on a bass reel. Fast retrieves are mainly used to burn a bait back to get it out again. At least that's the benefit I see most valuable....at the same time...if the gear set runs on a monster primary and toothpic of a pinion....it's not gonna last like new very long after a few hooksets. And hooksets are what do the most damage. I don't think abu round reels are going anywhere. Akios and Omoto are selling products with machined frames and quality components, at a better value than an abu.....and their market share has stagnated. I know a shop that sold hundreds and hundreds of abu rounds in a few weeks.....I bet 100 omotos sold in the USA in the same time frame. It's all about marketing. The Bass industry consumer loves new stuff....if marketed correctly it'll sell. Even if it doesn't have much benefit. I haven't seen anything on magnetized "bearings" The beast round reel doesn't really strike me as anything impressive, seems more like a special edition over anything else.
@quinthiggins5975
@quinthiggins5975 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Hook sets are hard on rods, reels, line , and us sometimes. The beast that I have looks at had magnetize bearings on the spool shaft and side plates bearings. I almost wonder if there was a magnet or magnetize bearing on the cog drive and clicker gear of the spool . So when installing the ads spool back into the side plate and frame there seemed to be some forces that pushed back . It puzzled me as to how this was actually working . What I thought was unique about this reel was the Pion gear support on the brake plate and side plate with a larger spool shaft. Also it’s nice to drop for grouper and then come in from 20 miles out top water fish for snook and tarpon with the same set up. Here in NC reds, kings, black drum and top for water trout. You never know what your going to run into. There’s a tool for every occasion. Again thanks for your hard work and testing out reels with great honesty.
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
That's interesting... I haven't been in the beast round... Sorta sounds like an old morrum or zx brake plate design. Are you referring to the bronze bushing sleeved to the spool side of the shaft that the pinion can ride on? That's a cool feature of the live spindle design abu incorporates on the round reels (omoto akios as well
@quinthiggins5975
@quinthiggins5975 3 жыл бұрын
That and the cup that comes off the brake plate that houses the bearing thats on the shaft . Then the sleeve holds the pion that has only two slots not four . The pion does not use the centrifugal brakes to Engage Lastly there is a bearing on the inside of the side plate holding the shaft . The spool shaft is the largest in diameter that I have seen in this size Abu. It’s beefy. Pics are always better . Hope that’s a bit more clear .
@quinthiggins5975
@quinthiggins5975 3 жыл бұрын
There is no Bronze brushing on the shaft . Just a cross pen going though the spool shaft that pion rides on . The bearing is in between this and the spool locked in the spool .
@frogmanpipes9561
@frogmanpipes9561 3 жыл бұрын
New sub here. I was looking to see if you had a video on the Shimano curado DC? I didn't see one.
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
I've referenced it a few times. I don't think I did a dedicated video on it. I prefer the SLX over it and have pretty much benched it in favor of it. The Slx is so such a great form factor in comparison to the curado. I benched my brass gear upgraded metanium dc in favor of the slx as well. But to each their own. I throw braid 20 to 40lbs...and it happily lives at 1 or 2 on the dial. If you have big mitts....you'll probably like the curado more than me.
@frogmanpipes9561
@frogmanpipes9561 3 жыл бұрын
@@TackleAdvisors fair enough. One more question. Since I'm still new to your content. Correct me if I'm wrong. There are a lot of reels that are re-branded. Do you have a list? Or direct me to a specific video. Thanks again for the great content.
@anthonyreeder8283
@anthonyreeder8283 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Daiwa Tatula 100. I have 4 o those and an elite. They are so much better then what Lew’s and abu put out and they are both made by doyo.
@mikemelina7395
@mikemelina7395 3 жыл бұрын
Very "Meh". It's a technical term. Merry Christmas Sir.
@skykings89
@skykings89 3 жыл бұрын
"Very meh". Never a more accurate description of every single abu reel they make. Hot garbage.
@masonlott8769
@masonlott8769 3 жыл бұрын
And that's a fact
@mattduprau2028
@mattduprau2028 3 жыл бұрын
Seven years of brand loyalty to Abu and I kick myself for using 'meh' performing reels for that amount of time... it's been 4 seasons since the switch to high end shimano and daiwa and never looked back.
@I_am_archie
@I_am_archie 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I guess I'm missing something. I'm using the winch baitcaster jigging for some Lakers and I use it to cast with I think it does both well. My Revo Toro doesn't cast well for me though.
@HelloIamBen
@HelloIamBen 3 жыл бұрын
Who knew that Lews had Swedes working for them?
@joepworther2284
@joepworther2284 Жыл бұрын
Great video !!!
@rolandmcclendon1394
@rolandmcclendon1394 3 жыл бұрын
Doyo makes abu Garcia and lew's baitcaster
@krustysurfer
@krustysurfer 3 жыл бұрын
You subscriber here dig your style definitely like the humorous bits... It would be nice though if you could be exactly specific why you choose one real over the others your vague description of superior versus inferior design like I said is humorous but for a nerd like me I like the hard facts but if that saves you grief and lawsuits I completely understand send it brother! Aloha from the Great Lakes
@smoovefishing
@smoovefishing 3 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas!!
@estebancruz7368
@estebancruz7368 2 жыл бұрын
What line is that on the Zata?
@kingmakak
@kingmakak 3 жыл бұрын
Slx DC JP version comes with carbonfibre drag as standard..
@adhytyaps7027
@adhytyaps7027 3 жыл бұрын
My Slx Mgl also comes with carbon drag from factory..
@blesson87
@blesson87 3 жыл бұрын
So-ugay-ilang... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is gold! Pmsl!
@choydecam7929
@choydecam7929 3 жыл бұрын
Why so much trouble with Abu? In all these years I have never seen a photo or publication showing a broken gear or some other part including the cheapest reels (not counting the people who use them for years without the minimum maintenance). With the subject of brakes, I suppose that the company thinks of reels to be used all over the world ... with countless species of fish ... better to have more than less brakes ...estoy suscripto! muy buen canal ...saludos desde el norte de Argentina...donde se pescan los hermosos "Golden Dorado" 🎣🎣
@angelamike1956
@angelamike1956 3 жыл бұрын
7:43 seconds I can never get back, couldn't go any farther.
@Alakaslam_21
@Alakaslam_21 3 жыл бұрын
What is the brand of that purple braid?
@ctgilcrest
@ctgilcrest 3 жыл бұрын
it's barny braid and it loves you!
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
Lolol
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's sougayilang
@TheKingzfan
@TheKingzfan 3 жыл бұрын
I would rather buy the SLX MGL and spend less money. Still a great video !
@alessandroros6341
@alessandroros6341 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the abu garcia superior?
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen it ...cant really coment on it
@alejandroquiros2910
@alejandroquiros2910 Жыл бұрын
Abue garcia revo sx is one of the best reel you can bait
@backlashpro830
@backlashpro830 3 жыл бұрын
Comparing 2 reels that are essentially made in the same factory and possibly the same line is not surprising to see similarities. Also t wing design does not play well with braid to leader line if that is something someone has intentions of implementing in their angling ambitions.
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
I've never had an issue with any Twing'ed reel and a leader connection..Not once...What knot do you use. I use either an Alberto, FG, or Pr knot......zero zilch nada in terms of issues and that's over 100000 casts. :) I could maybe see an issue if using a uni to uni with a leader tag...but that's about it.
@jeffc2630
@jeffc2630 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Nah, the t-wing is way better for a leader knot! It's all I use and I've never had an issue!
@jessiemathews3957
@jessiemathews3957 3 жыл бұрын
Do you repair reels
@IRONMIKE_D
@IRONMIKE_D 10 ай бұрын
Im glad i didnt pay full price for the zata bait caster. I actually got it today on sale from bass pro for 149.99. I do have the spinning reel zata and i love it.
@I_am_archie
@I_am_archie 3 жыл бұрын
Sougay? Or what? Are you reely gunna picifun on my good time?
@TackleAdvisors
@TackleAdvisors 3 жыл бұрын
Don't threaten me with a good time...
@hammer9856
@hammer9856 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that 85% of the reels made that we in the US use are made by one company in Korea. LEWS, ABU etc. Some exceptions are Shimano and Daiwa. And guess what, those are the two you ended up favoring in this review.
@Ruggedjellyfishing
@Ruggedjellyfishing 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Doyo makes bass pro, Abu, and lews.
@kencleg7721
@kencleg7721 Жыл бұрын
Big fish are slow I find the higher retrieve ratios too high. I find myself going too fast use your thumb drags never been right on baitcasters. Damm it’s 50 lb braid w 12-20 leader shit it’s a little winch
@dustinwalker8152
@dustinwalker8152 3 жыл бұрын
The one and only dislike was an Abu fanboy
@hobymancinglho
@hobymancinglho 3 жыл бұрын
Guys,I want one of those reels 🤩
@wescutchin198
@wescutchin198 3 жыл бұрын
Very much worth it. The rod and reel combo is 140$ at field and stream 💯
@bankmaster5104
@bankmaster5104 3 жыл бұрын
When you need that long cast DC is what I'll go for... my dc I got own so many fish because I can cast so far enough on bank and boat even in wind... all this other caster gonna need some kinda chip if they gonna try to be shimano DC or better material or something
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