EVE Online - My Paladin almost Ganked

I do some L4 missions in the Paladin and talk about the hassle of gankers.
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Fit used:
[Paladin, Vanquisher]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Multispectrum Energized Membrane II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Large Armor Repairer II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Tracking Computer II
500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Bastion Module I
Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager I
Large Energy Collision Accelerator II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hornet II x5
Salvage Drone I x5
Acolyte II x5
Imperial Navy Multifrequency L x4
Multifrequency L x5
Optimal Range Script x1
Tracking Speed Script x1
Conflagration L x12
Scorch L x8
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[@NeoAemaeth]

I always try to: 1. Constantly d-scan; 2. Keep an eye on local; 3. Not sit at 0 and align to a safespot; 4. Fit a cloak + MWD, (even if that means having less tractor beams or salvagers) to cloak+MWD warp at gates in case Tornados try to blap you and to be able to cloak up if you are not currently targeted by npcs; 5. Use instadock and instaundock bookmarks; 6. Use an alt to loot with MTUs etc., as with a MTU on the field it's so much easier to scan you down. 7. Add known gankers to my contacts. And don't fly expensive ships when they are around.

[@MrZevv]

And all of this... dioes not make ou safe... just fit your ship with a huge tank and dont go for Max dps. A: They need MORE ships B: IF you get ganked by this PVP noobs you want as much of em die as possible :D

[@Youtubestolemyname99999]

Might aswell stop playing right

[@eventon9372]

Funny, I was actually going to comment on your last video about your paladin to maybe keep it docked for awhile cuz people will come to gank you. I didn't want to give people the idea but this is EVE after all lol close call.

[@DevilDoghz]

As an FC once told us after a null/low roam, "I would risk losing the whole fleet to kill that Apocalypse." ;)

[@mezmodes3446]

That Mobile Depot is how they find you quickly..... It’s a lot harder to scan down your ship , it that Mobile Depot is a big HERE I AM in space

[@unsaved013]

yep and there's another CODE like corp that likes to hunt and kill mobile depots, they're called Empty You. They're not part of CODE but their CEO supports CODE.

[@nolan4339]

You could always locate out in some obscure highsec island to do your missions in peace. There are lvl IV security missions on the highsec islands in Solitude, Aridia, Lonetrek, Placid, Molden Heath, and Devoid regions. Quite rare for those gankers to come out there, especially in large numbers. (until they read this comment that is) But ya, over-investing for the activity you are partaking in and for the income you are generating for that activity can be a pretty big concern if you end up with some ship losses. That's why it's always best to try to find the most economical ship option to fulfill your needs.

[@Aceyface]

Ya very true what you are saying about the location and investments, thanks for the tips

[@teabaggin]

This is what I did 13 years ago lol... I have 3 bling af ships out on my island..

[@jimmyc00l]

SoE is by far the best isk/lp ratio and there aren't many lvl 4 SoE agents.

[@leafofyume7838]

this was relaxing to watch. such a big ship using a bastion module while the epicness unfolds and you talking some interesting stuff.

[@CadePlaysGames]

There are only three SOE L4 Security agents. As the SOE LP store is popular, lots of people run these three agents. This also gives gankers a target rich environment in three specific systems. Apanake and Lanngisi both being 0.5 systems also plays in their favour. There are hundreds of other L4 agents spread all over the rest of highsec in higher security systems. I'd rather go there than deal with the ninja looters, suspect baiters and gankers in SOE L4 systems.

[@1nekrox]

Love the consistent eve content Ace. Keep it up :)

[@Scarter63]

"Mine salt" lol. Never heard that term before. I like it!

[@AgentxOO2]

This is a forbidden opinion to have in eve: The risk/reward on hi-sec ganking is way out of wack It's especially stacked against hi-sec PVE'ers. The gankers risk 50-100m tops across a few alts, and the PvE'ers risk a 1bn - 2bn ship for what's supposed to be the "slow" way to make money in the game. I think it speaks to a core weakness of Eve - you either play seriously and treat it like a second job/side hustle, or don't play at all

[@nerdynautilus5373]

Yeah, sadly marauders have been in this weird state for a while now. They’re really good on paper but in practice it doesn’t work out too well

[@wayfaringsentiment3096]

Genuinely like seeing this content for EVE, it reminds me a lot of stuff I used to be doing in Highsec with friends - I actually have a very similarly fitted paladin on my old main for pretty near the exact same thing. Simpler times, and just because it's not optimum isk/s doesn't make it less fun. Might log on and run some missions again for the nostalgia again.

[@Aceyface]

:D Know exactly what you mean by nostalgia/simpler times. Used to live in nullsec a few years ago, felt that way when I got back.

[@vicospriteg]

One tip, you may want to mwd to where you are going to bastion at, so incase local fills up right as you land on the site, you still have your mjd to jump away instead of having to wait the 1:30 timer right after you get into the site. It’s better to keep all the tools in your bag and not need them, then to need and not have.

[@Aceyface]

good tip!

[@LoneWolf731000]

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[@alextrenton7299]

I use a Marauder for Blitzing/L4's and left Apanake for this very reason - dealing with CODE clowns is not worth it. Considering you post on forums+youtube, you may want to think about running missions elsewhere/using a cheaper ship, as they will hunt you down just for the "fun" of it. Currently they are very active in Apanake. Increasing tank wont help you much(it might help you survive the first gank if you're paying attention) but they'll just bring more people next time. Other than that, as another person mentioned - a DCU is a must, you have no chance against 10+ catalysts without a DCU. The other thing that helps is running as big a burst tank as you can, it will help you push those repairs if the drop does come. The cap stability is non-issue in a Paladin, even my golem with 01:20 cap depletion facetanks blockades etc. with no problem, you rep for so much in bastion that you never run it for more than 1-2 cycles every minute or so anyway.

[@KaIubka]

@@flyingpharoah4867 cringe

[@jamesd9244]

Great vid, I didnt know catalysts could hit so hard

[@VitaBjornen]

with maxed out skills and polarized guns, overheated they can deal almost 1, 000 DPS. And since they're going to get concorded anyway, they don't care about resists. Catalysts need some adjustments IMHO.

[@oremonger2053]

@@VitaBjornen yup, take away a high slot

[@VitaBjornen]

@@flyingpharoah4867 a destroyer shouldn't be able to out DPS a battleship, regardless of tank.

[@ZazzilasArden]

@@flyingpharoah4867 A tech 1 destroyer should not be able to reach almost 1K dps.

[@ZazzilasArden]

@@flyingpharoah4867 I don't even mine. I haven't even been ganked since 013 or 014. I just think a fitted tech 1 destroyer for 20mill being able to deal 1000 dps is unbalanced in comparison to other ships in the same price range. That's just my opinion, though. It's obvious nothing is going to be done about it, so there isn't any reason for you to be so defensive. I personally feel like salt mining would be a lot more rewarding if it weren't so low effort.

[@hrodebertcoad9848]

You're not running D-scan nearly enough to see probes Also learn to identify their scouting alts and set those to negative as well

[@justincarone7328]

like others have said I think its best to just relocate to somewhere less risky. if you want to do it just to relax then find an out of the way 1.0 system to run them in.

[@colossal252]

Yep I avoid .5 systems anytime I'm doing missions..... I suggest moving to a .6 system in a low travel area..... Little less isk/hr and LP but far less likely to see gankers, and will be easy to see a gank squad big enough to get through your maurader

[@Forgotten-Gaming]

I've mission run in Apanake a lot and I'm yet to be ganked, but this is why I'd never risk running in anything more than a Rattlesnake. Rattle is solid, tank for days, >1k dps and half the price of a Marauder. Mach is even cheaper and a better blitzer by all accounts. When I come to do missions, I first check killboard for recent losses and then check local for CODE. Still got to be vigilant though.

[@dude3278]

Somebody lost their paladin when the servers went dead and then this video pops up lul

[@Kanikalion]

The weapons timer from the bastion module is to prevent instant tethering/jumping. Helps reduce exploiting timers and what not. If you were to bastion up right outside a citadel, without the weapons timer you could pretty much re-tether right away, assuming not locked and all that fun stuff. IDK how long you've played the game but basing on how you've phrased some things compared to how they used to be, there used to be a lot of modules that could be..... finessed, let's say, with their timers, area of effect, etc - like the old system wide command links, for example - that the suspect timer, weapons timer, aggression timer, etc are all addressing in various ways.

[@Aceyface]

hmm makes sense thanks for the info!

[@DrunkenGuitarGuy]

yep, if you fly a paladin in highsec you are looking to get ganked! doesn't matter how its fit! gankers only care about zkill!

[@davidl9943]

Concord will not come to save you either when sieged due to a weapons timer. To counter that, try not to siege unless you absolutely have to.

[@davidl9943]

@@flyingpharoah4867 Ahh, nice to know. I was under the impression that they wouldn't while you have a weapons timer.

[@grahamelliott9506]

the reason why battlecruisers die faster than cruisers has to do with how much of your battleship weapon damage applies to BC vs Cruiser so in eve online our weapons are small, medium, large and so on = ideally used vs frigs, cruisers, and battleships when you use a M weapon vs a frigate (small), you'll only be capable of doing partial damage to it when you use a S weapon vs a frigate (small) it applies most or all its damage, if it hits when you use an L weapon vs a frigate (small), a fraction of your damage can apply so each weapon size has an ideal target size, below that size a damage reduction comes into play... above that size it just helps apply the full damage with me still? okay, so as for the SIZE of ships, consider a destroyer to be about the size (as far as guns are concerned) of 2.5 frigates welded together... this means medium weapons will apply MUCH more of their potential damage to a destroyer, than they do to a frigate likewise, think of the battlecruiser as 2.5 cruiser hulls welded together... and likewise, a large weapons system ideal for battleships, will still deal most of its potential damage to a battlecruiser as they are not that much smaller than a battleship as far as guns vs size of ship goes SO - cruiser weapons hammer destroyers very hard, destroyers hammer frigates very hard because they have 2.5 times the number of weapons AND - large weapons hammer battlecruisers very hard, battlecruisers hammer cruisers very hard because its like they have 2.5 times the number of weapons generally battlecruisers are weak to battleships this way, but strong vs cruisers... and destroyers are weak to cruisers this way, but strong vs frigs

[@KaIubka]

Right, I was gonna point out that he absolutely obliterated the cruisers which were far away with Scorch, 2 shotting them because he got penetrating hits, whereas he pretty much only got grazing hits on the cruisers orbiting him at 5km. Would a web help substantially with applying to those close range cruisers?

[@grahamelliott9506]

@@KaIubka oh yeah a web is basically a damage module in your mid slots that only works at ~10km or so in pvp , blaster boats often try to fit 'dualweb' or two webs / web + grapple - a blaster thorax with ions and a dualweb +scram can smack down a lot of frigates it otherwise can't touch with only one web or no web a web even helps your missiles apply damage quite a bit if you fly missile boats i'd say for laser boats a single web is fine, but due to laser flexibility its not as common to see more webs than one as with blaster boats

[@KaIubka]

@@grahamelliott9506 cool, that's what I thought. I stopped playing EVE in 2012, shortly after getting a Paladin, and want to get back into it during christmas break. Figure I'm gonna go with a Tracking Comp, web, MJD and cap battery for mids and 3 Heat Sinks, repper, 2 specific hardeners and DCU for lows.

[@grahamelliott9506]

@@KaIubka sounds good, and you can keep the other 2 damage type resists mods in the hold to switch out as you'd like also, maybe worth a consideration but we now have a 'reactive armor hardener' - it works like an omni-resist but each time it cycles it allocates some of the resists according to the damage you're taking. uses very little cap, training lvl 4 for it isn't long at all, and its affordable, doesn't have a t2 variant at lvl 5 either just one module , each skill level reduces the cycle time so it adjusts quicker, can be overheated to cycle even faster if I recall

[@KaIubka]

@@grahamelliott9506 right, I've seen that, I might use it in missions which spawn different factions of rats. Thanks for your insights. :)

[@jacob127w9]

What if u multibox marauders and keep them in each others optimal firing range...still a gank issue?

[@mattromero6756]

CODE is killing this game for new people, solos, and casuals

[@mattromero6756]

If you are doing PvE in a non pvp system (0.5+) then its obvious you don't want to PvP. So why is CODE killing people in kamikaze fleets? They know its not a fair game area, that's why the use cheap fits and even make kills that are more of a loss for them, just to grief people. Saying its anything other than that is absolutely ridiculous. Griefing is the act of chronically causing consternation to other members of an online community, or more specifically, intentionally disrupting the immersion of another player in their gameplay using aspects of the game in unintended ways. If you are big and bad and want to PvP, go gank people in the area of the game intended for such things. Sadly they are probably scared of fleets that can actually defend themselves.

[@TheGahta]

@@mattromero6756 95% of ganks can be averted by sensible fitting, yeah they enjoy the tears, but they are a necessary part of the eco system. Have awarness, fit sensible and there is little reason to fear them.

[@mattromero6756]

@@TheGahta i have no fear of them. They have never killed me. However 95% of sensible fittings aren't obvious or available to newer players. Nor should you have to watch dscan and local in high sec, since its not an intended place to pvp.

[@NemesisDawn]

if youre gonna fly a billion isk ship u might as well bling it imo...and a micro-jump drive is amazing

[@skaboom64]

I know this is an old video, but I built a a huge buffer fit and ehp around 500k, and high resists. I don’t think they could destroy you before concord comes, but it does take a lot of your dps away.

[@kevinb5700]

They got me there yesterday 1 bil rattlesnake. The bare cost of your marauder will be enough

[@MrAndypree]

You need to fit for ganking them back and sit and wait for them - always worth a laugh

[@danielmumford2732]

You said you tagged the CODE guys to show up as orange. How do you do that? I have been searching online to try to find an answer, and I can't find anything to explain how to have different corp members show up in a different color or with a tag of some kind.

[@JanHogstrom]

Search for CODE. in "People & Places" and at the bottom of the window that pops upp when you doubleclick CODE you can click "Add to contacts", there you can put the standing towards them to orange or red and they will all show up like that in local. :)

[@danielmumford2732]

@@JanHogstrom Thanks, I must have spent an hour searching for this, and another 45 minutes messing around in the interface trying to find where this could be done. I love Eve, but sometimes the lack of a central instruction manual is a pain.

[@rebelwolves]

Different way of running paladin from how I do it.. I split guns. MJD 100km away from enemy and start sniping them one shot the frigs and dessies with just 2 guns as they burn straight at you.

[@verablack3137]

I ran thousands of level 4 missions in nullsec and I have never been killed there (running a mission that is, I have been killed there hundreds of times in PVP fleets), but I have had them try to gank my buffer t2 fit raven in highsec before, which isn't even worth anything. Nullsec is seems safer, even more so if instead of running missions you run anoms in your own sov with intel channels.

[@Aceyface]

Wow! I never knew doing nullsec missions would be particularly possible. Lived once in fountain and the serpentis nullsec systems with missions were camped hard by random people who werent friends with my alliance :/ Do you have any recommendations on good npc mission hubs if Im aligned with test alliance and co?

[@verablack3137]

@@Aceyface I did Sanshas and Gursita, I wouldn't really recommend serpentis, angel or mordus as those areas tend not to have any good quiet spots to go mission at. Eventually I moved to faction warfare as I can PVP there and get plenty of LP from missions too if I want (though people certainly try and kill you on those missions!). It is also kinda neat because when I see diamond rats in highsec the Gurista ones are blue to me and won't attack since I ran all of those missions.

[@Maverick1982RS172]

With this vid you just invited CODE to Pop this Ship, i say it will last a Week

[@mads12344]

IL be there to blap on code just to Keep this ship from dieing

[@ladyattis]

Also try a navy issue apocalypse that might be a good middle ground of price vs DPS vs gank magnetism.

[@Aceyface]

I think if Im vigilant ganking sholudnt be an issue - but the apoc navy looks really cool and definitely see what you mean as a middle ground

[@arkimus1911]

Do you have a nice fit for that one? And would it work well on caldari lvl 4s?

[@allthatishere]

@@Aceyface I suggest you give this a shot: www.unitedstandings.org/careers/usia-grinder-fittings/#Budget_UltraBlitz_HS_L4_Active_Advanced This corp specializes in blitzing L4s, and have done crazy testing with blitzing in general, and the Typhoon Fleet Issue is hands down the best.

[@christinemccrea4371]

Late comment, but I believe that your large guns do more damage to battlecruisers is because their signature radius is large compared to cruisers.

[@barhawks7335]

Code are the worst for griefing transports and miners

[@profanemagic5671]

Nah, they're great heroes, killing all those threatening Newbro-Ventures. We flame them out of our local, whenever they start their "Should have bought a permit"-RP-Bullshit :D

[@Daedricbob]

After surviving an Apanake gank attempt in my Pally purely because I happened to jump my salvaging alt in first, I never mission there without alt support now.

[@Entropy__]

Create a 2nd alpha alt. If you see any orange or known gankers near the gate, shoot one of their ships on the gate. Basically use Concord as your private bodyguard :P Once Concord arrive, jump in and be off on your merry way.

[@sir_slimestone3797]

That is genius

[@delfinenteddyson9865]

is the response time diminished if they are already on grid ?

[@savagefox3530]

I quit playing Eve cuz there is no relaxing activities on Eve anymore mining has been nerfed to the ground and doing missions for me I've always been too tedious cannot use drones to do level 4 missions anymore drones suck in general now cuz they get Agro all the time and die asteroids only yield 30% of what they used to yield and it passed one asteroid belt in a high-security space in a 0.5 system would be enough to keep you busy for 6 hours a solar system with 12 belts won't even last one mining barge and an orca 3 hours Moon mining in high-security space is no longer valuable either they got rid of all the good asteroids from it but I kind of expected that there is no low effort tasks left they're all tedious high risk very low pay tasks the lower the risk the more time it requires other words the more tedious it is doing Relic sites with a frigate pretty high pay but it takes you hours to get anything that's if you do it in 00 or a wormhole the only risk 1 million the potentially make 300 million and 6 hours of exploring but it's possible you can search that long and only get 30 Eve online is literally a second job now

[@Gonzo_Bubb]

The incursion group "The Ditanian Fleet" uses a few Paladins in their fleets. Try it out, you can make way more money. TDF-Official is their channel to get more information

[@EiRA-hiE-x]

It's not a few it's their e fit lol, NM aren't opti unless they have hybrids

[@robjones9128]

My first day on eve doing starter missions got wrecked a few times for no reason mining nearly quit game as had no money to replace the mining ship had to sit and do discovery. 30 days on now.

[@mabelode7891]

fleetphoon is awesome for LVL 4s

[@flounder2760]

you could always drag that marauder out to null to rat out there.

[@GamerCthulhu]

Apanake is a great mission hub but yea any expensive mission ship will be targeted for ganks. Most of the super popular mission hubs will run in to that issue. Additionally if they know you are running them they will locator agent you and follow so be careful.

[@countcampula]

That was fast. :b

[@tokra2222]

Cover the name of the sector you are in :). HS is more dangerous then NS.

[@andreasfrind6632]

I use a long range sniper rattlesnake. I just wrap in warp off to 100 plus km and setup my drones and kill everything as it flies towards me

[@jonathanedwards4188]

I was in Apanake for a few weeks. Ever since my mission system fell to Trigs. Code was out full force. I thought they were ganking miners. I got out of there.

[@jonathanedwards4188]

@@flyingpharoah4867 i know Apanake didnt fall. but the mission system i was in had a system in the agents pool that fell to the trigs. so i moved to Apanake. /facepalm

[@oal2928]

Mtu takes 2 cycles to scan down, the ship takes 5, or more

[@cibalexlulu5582]

Do mission in lowsec. It is much safer as CODE does not dare to go to lowsec.

[@clankplusm]

If you can find the correct system yeah, however gotta know your area more to avoid Covops bombs and so much else.

[@bennethos]

Useful thx

[@grimaxemopher7308]

Go to osmon for your lvl 4s it’s allot safer

[@martindonat3249]

as often as i got harassed , and my MTUs got shot at , even in a Dominix ,there are just a lot of people around these Agenthubs ,that like to stier things up ,you always have to be on the lookout ,and doing any kind of farming/mining wheile CODE is arround is just asking for trouble

[@rustynail6363]

you gonna park your Rolls Royce in the wrong hood! you gonna get it trashed!

[@ladyattis]

Yeah CODE and I believe some folks from Pandemic love to roam Apanake.

[@rafaelveiga9261]

Wow, these guys are the same guys who ganked my Gila close to Jita this week, but it looks like it was just for fun, because there was nothing expensive, they won nothing and I lost 230 million. It was a day that I had bought it, sad.

[@Aceyface]

Hope you recover dude :(

[@rafaelveiga9261]

@@Aceyface Thank you friend🤙🤙

[@Kosinuss]

This is why Suicide Ganking needs to be removed from the game. Permanently.

[@nhientran4142]

i realised i had watched you for 1 year

[@nhientran4142]

i saw a praxis entering my mission place he is as confused as me and left

[@nhientran4142]

the palading go you spin me right round baby right round

[@kevtron1991]

If you want to use the marauder try incursions. The dittani fleet runs them armor with paladins. You would be most welcome to join. However incursions good youtube videos do not make. Bring up the code alliance again like you did in this video >add contact>red your welcome.

[@DorijanGrey]

What you actualy dont understand is that they gank marauders or whatever expensive hulls for killboard efficiency not to earn isk :) they lose like 30-40 mil while they kill 1,8 bil in your case.

[@zaspartans2046]

My beloved friend looks like ur helping someone or ur alt to increasing the standing of a certain corp for him or her or alt no offence mate just asking

[@atmosphere145]

When you're talking about whether the gang is worth it or not keep in mind salvaging a t2 BS hull can be 40 to 50 mill is on its own. They will always break even at the minimum but usually profit.

[@daveb6722]

I don't get why people go for the Paladin over the Golem for missioning. Paladin is stuck with a pretty much single damage type, only high dps v sansha and raiders. Golem can be set up for any pirate.

[@Kanikalion]

Vargur supremacy

[@relaxationparadise7645]

I got ganked on my tengu, luckily it had over 600Hps 70+Resist. I survived. LOL. I was surprised because I didn't know about this. Im a returning player.

[@neriaksoul]

love my Golem

[@Aceyface]

Golem range is really nice, wish the Kalaakiota skin was cheaper though :(

[@Kosinuss]

Then you'll love it getting blown up by a swarm of cheap-fit Catalyst whores, helpless to do anything against it.

[@jasonprier1476]

Mark code as red and carry mobile depot with tank refit

[@urdead2meboy]

yea i always feel safer in null sec but iv lived in null for last 10 years so

[@kjetilstorm3341]

I feel like leshaks make marauders feel a little meh now. I mean 350m isk for a leshak 100m for some cheap implants and one large skill injector and boom. 2800 dps. 2 week old character.

[@Aceyface]

ya definitely feels like leshaks are so powerful, imagine if a leshak marauder existed... omg thatd be so powerful

[@taskforcenine6559]

the issue with a Leshak is... it needs to spool up to that kind of damage. And you can't make it a sniper fit. L4 missions don't really need more dps than maybe 1100+ if you are face-tanking and 800+ if you are long range (also consider how much volley damage you are doing and if maybe it is better to go for a higher alpha to kill most enemies in much fewer cycles). Leshaks are great for when you have to spool on a target for a while, or have a fleet of them for that purpose (incursion HQs, for example).

[@taskforcenine6559]

@@Aceyface Could you theory-craft and discuss possibilities of how you would use a Vindicator for L4 security missions (against any enemy of your choice).

[@kjetilstorm3341]

@@taskforcenine6559 To be completely honest, it's hardly worth it. The reality is that once you've entered Marauder/ faction BS range, you've entered carrier territory price wise. So there really isn't any logical point to paying 1.8b for a marauder hull and putting a 800m isk fit on it to make 80 - 120m an hour running level 4s when you can get an Archon hull for 1.3b, use a 600m isk t2/t1 fit and make 450m an hour running level 5s.

[@taskforcenine6559]

@@kjetilstorm3341 So, your entire point of playing a game is being the max efficiency for-profit entity? Maybe consider that I want to fly a Vindicator and all that I have the attention span/mood for is easy mission running. Or maybe I want to try out something new. In my pretty long and broken EvE playtime, I have done or come across pretty much everything that I could realistically do, so I can print isk if I really wanted or had the time to. Instead, I choose to occasionally watch a fine person play it and if I ever have time to log in, I do weird things for fun.

[@rioterwarhier]

Code was Okay. After you got ganked, you got a mail from them explaining the gank and what you should do better next time. Now we have "Safety." Those guys gank even beginners in the starting system. T1 Battleships mission runners worth 400 mil.. There is no reason anymore to fly cheap fits to avoid ganking, they gank you anyways. Lot's of beginners stopped to play because their beginner t1 Scanning frig is getting ganked during the carreragent missions. At this point and for the very first time, ganking has become harmful for the game.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

Bounties on rats higher in low?

[@Aceyface]

I think its the same at 100% risk modifier but >100% it increases a bit

[@cody12345249]

I have yet to encounter anybody trying to kill me, but every single video I watch says to "never carry what you can't afford to lose" so now I live my life in perpetual fear when I fly anywhere💀

[@jacobhyatt1882]

I run a kronos and with my training clone im repping 8k armor lol marauders are the bees knees for blitzing high sec missions

[@BryanZALim]

Lots of us did warn you when you posted you bought it. Marauders need some love. They need to decrease the price of them by at least 35%

[@clankplusm]

The crew stuff is incorrect, about a decade or so ago it was retconned so crews didn't exist anymore, it's all 1 man now.

[@ZazzilasArden]

Fighters have literal modeled pilots, though.

[@DoddyIshamel]

No, that never happened. Not sure why you would randomly make that up? CCP even talked about the crews in their last news report and they published short stories about the crew within "the last decade".

[@clankplusm]

@@ZazzilasArden iirc pilots are the exception and they're clones or something.

[@clankplusm]

@@DoddyIshamel the Scope is talking about non player ships / story, the normal crewed ships are still around and exist as NPCs, but capsuleers have been a single pilot crew for a decade.

[@ZazzilasArden]

@@clankplusm The pilots of fighters are not players. Crews were never retconned at any point.

[@Jimmy72nd]

Ganking sucks, but this is Eve and no where is really safe..

[@Kosinuss]

... which needs to be fixed. Hisec = Safe Sec. Case Closed. Full Stop.

[@Jimmy72nd]

The only problem if high sec was really safe, people would sit there and just get rich, and it would kill the economy and eventually the game.. Although ganking does such, it just keeps you on your toes when in high sec

[@alistairbolden6340]

Move to a less populated system man. or just over tank it. Also it sounds like you are vastly under skilled to really be flying a maruder man but I get the want to be in one for missions.

[@RayHorn5128088056]

The price for being near Jita.

[@richardjones-jp1db]

thats what i dislike about this game, way to many griefers

[@zhain0]

I've been ganked twice in 11 years. Its really not that bad if you are not being stupid.

[@PrimeGRC]

Flying in Apanake is your first problem.. That is Code's backyard

[@DoddyIshamel]

If you fit some tank you won't need to worry about being ganked....

[@k9shadow569]

Unfortunately the guy attacking in apanake is using automation for 15 accounts. Far as i am concerned multiboxing is allowed but automation (using third party software to use them all at the same time) is not allowed. I hope he will get banned. No matter how much cash you pump in the game 15 catalysts will destroy you. All of his characters contains hawk in his name (enraged hawk, fury hawk, raging hawk etc.). He also plays with crajax not sure if that.s his main. He makes billions just by killing battleships at the stargate in 0.5 security. That would be no problem if there were actual players.

[@Jeansy1290]

Im sorry buddy.. I really am.. but you are the perfect target for grievers... only 2 eventual outcomes.. 1. you stick with the game and learn to add the ranking aspect to it and account for it? or 2. you quit and leave the game because of it... and .. use more dscan ......

[@arvinnthemagnificient1574]

get marauder to 4 atleast its soo worth it

[@Aceyface]

Yup definitely on the list

[@moltari]

"code is probably realyl bored, and it's not worth it for them to do this." love your videos, whish they had a bit more explanation on the fittings, but Code did this because they knew you'd make this salty video

[@Aceyface]

Glad you like them!

[@ZazzilasArden]

Is this your definition of salt? You must have a desperate case of sodium deficiency.

[@venerablev4835]

I wish you could slow down a bit with your narration.

[@jkline398]

I started playing eve again, I don't know why. None of my friends from 2015 (last few weeks I played) and def none of the goons from when I started this game around 2006, are even playing PC anymore lol... then I watch a video like this and I realize why no one I know plays this game anymore. Nobody has time for this shit lol

[@jkline398]

I should add, I start up Eve to find out my golem is unplayable until I fork up some money. So much for marauders, I'm not giving this game any money lol

[@flightevolution8132]

There is no relaxing activity in eve that requires undocking. Get used to it.

[@ZazzilasArden]

I find 90% of the game to be relaxing, but that's mostly because I don't run pointlessly blinged out fits and then get salty about someone trying to kill me. I've only had like six gank attempts made against me since 2013, only one of which was successful. They just sort of stopped trying after a while once they realized that I wasn't salty about it.

[@flightevolution8132]

@@ZazzilasArden Then you're not playing the game right. Doesn't matter what they tell you, eve is a combat game and everything in the game's purpose is to drive combat forward. "Pointlessly blinged out fits" is only 50% correct. Many people bling wrong, but a correctly blinged fit is an incredible tool for an experienced pilot. A blinged, HG orthrus can fight an entire fleet if piloted well.

[@ZazzilasArden]

@@flightevolution8132 I mean, you can say I'm not playing the game right all day, but your opinion is empty. I'm having fun, bantering with friends, turning a profit, and not getting salty. In the end, I'm getting exactly what I want out of this open ended sandbox game, whether or not you claim that I'm supposedly doing it wrong.

[@flightevolution8132]

@@ZazzilasArden Yeah that's cool don't care. Mainly just wanted to correct your lack of knowledge on blinging items

[@ZazzilasArden]

@@flightevolution8132 You are correct. I would like to clarify that when I said "pointlessly blinged", I meant it situationally, not that blinging itself is pointless. I have known someone who has run level 4s in a pointlessly blinged out ship worth 2bill. She got ganked a few hours in. She could just have easily gone with tech II tank, and the gankers would have probably ignored her.

[@fellpower]

No gank here...can i have my time back?

[@Pazuzu6]

The only relaxing you should do is when you are in the station docked. Everyone is a potential target. Especially in a Marauder. I only EVER did missions with my alt in a Dominix or Navy Mega. D-scan was always open. I miss being a "pirate"

[@DarkDragonLord]

i just run my marauder in null its way easier when you know who your enemys are.

[@Aceyface]

wow really! do you do missions there?

[@DarkDragonLord]

@@Aceyface usually complexes have my alt run salvage and loot i fit a cloak and MWD run em without bastion. have my alt sit cloaked on the first aceleration gate and its basically impossible to catch you.

[@Entropy__]

@@Aceyface Join an Alliance that is in empty space. Providence/Vale of the Silent etc; all abandoned for years.

[@malango255]

mobile tractor is what fucked you. It's insanely hard to scan a marauder down. But mobile stuff is easy to scan.

[@eatbooksluyioe754]

really need dmg contr

[@ExecratedPlaysGaming]

Leave Jita space and you'll never see CODE.

[@ExecratedPlaysGaming]

@@flyingpharoah4867 In my years of playing, I've never seen a CODE. pilot. They only hang around Jita and the newb systems.

[@ExecratedPlaysGaming]

@@flyingpharoah4867 Dude, he's in a mission hub a couple minutes away from Jita, that's still Jita space.

[@awakendsails]

If I got ganked in a ship like a marauder, I'd quit eve lol You have to have some kind of defense against ganking or the game is pointless.

[@alinn.4341]

You are setting a really bad example flying it there and with such low skills xD.

[@JoaoBarbosa1996]

oh god

[@Dio_07]

How do you always turn a 2 minute video into 20+ minutes of long winded rambling and still get views?

[@Aceyface]

Because people seem to want to hear my insights

[@gvroamer]

code. aka "Corporation Of Delusional Emos". Essentially griefers. Their fun is wrecking your fun. However, nobody who is in that group can ever tell their friends or family, inside or outside of EVE, that they are code because its admitting you are a shitty person with really low standards of fairness or "Honour". You want to hear their salt when you gank them or their citadels. Talk about salt. As bad as the screaming memes every time Trump gets a win.

[@bb3xhrhj]

I don't really mind people trying to gank ratters or mission runners. Miners however.... You don't really need a lot of minerals to make destroyers, but to have nice sov warfare you wanna see those big ships. If miners are consantly being blown up, there will be less minerals available, prices will rise, risk of using the big ships will rise and in the end people will be using cruisers for sov wars. Kinda yikes. I spend about 10-15% of my time mining in EVE. Kill me while im ratting and inflating the economy, don't kill me when I'm harvesting the building blocks for the ships you fly.