ACC BOUND? / Why Stanford & Cal Fit

[@robertkauffman8137]

The only reason Cal and Stanford would fit in the ACC is? There are 10 other schools in that conference that don't care about their football programs, either.

[@tarheel7406]

Given FSU's recent low investment in football, does that 10 so include?

[@robertkauffman8137]

More importantly to you....The ten does not include the Heels.@@tarheel7406

[@tarheel7406]

@@robertkauffman8137 Do you know to what I referenced? It's come out that FSU ranked last in the ACC (14th) in football investment over a recent 10-year period. This is a shocking to me. That the ACC does not require some minimum investment in the revenue sports is something that needs to be addressed, but FSU should not need such requirements,

[@robertkauffman8137]

They also have not been very good which allowed Clemson a freebie every year. The primary Alabama lesson is that you are good at what you care about. If you live and die on wins, then you are elite at everything including spending money.@@tarheel7406

[@leoguernsey1]

Do we know if ANYONE voted "yes"? Or did we just determine that four schools indicated "no", which ended the Survey. Did all schools actually offer a vote one way or the other?

[@kevinlee7693]

11 schools voted yes, Clemson, FSU, UNC, and NC State (for some reason) voted no. Notre Dame also made it clear that they value academics over football (as they should).

[@darealmvp2437]

I can't imagine the impact on the Olympic sports for Stanford if they joined the ACC

[@Mike-sp7zv]

Stanford has to make the B10 say no. Put the B10's ethics to the test

[@robertgibbs6480]

Adding Stanford and Cal is Stupid to suggest from Acc perspective, Financials, Scheduling, Travel.. make no sense.Acc has its own issues and is not ND toy conference to throw Pac12 lifelines. Stand up and become Full FB ACC member ND and come in with Stanford. Otherwise pocket your hypocracy. Are you manipulating Phillips to try and strong arm this through ?..

[@Packer910]

Maybe Boo Corrigan and Bubba Cunningham are both smart enough to know that FSU could use the addition of Stanford and Cal as a viable reason to challenge the GoR in court. FSU says “hey, this costs even more money and we voted against it.”

[@terryfox9344]

I do think that it makes sense for the ACC, and I do think that NC State is cow-towing to UNC, which their fans would be thrilled to hear.

[@mitchellmullins6650]

That guy is smart. But couldn`t Stanford say hey Cal give us 20, we`ll cut a check to the Big 10 for 225 mil, get us both in we can play maybe our west coast brethern and be in the Big 10.

[@FugitiveVette]

Thanks for covering Stanford Mark. Respect 🫡

[@MercerKnowsBall]

SYANFORD should call Louisville right now to have a schedule for '24 and '25 Indiana just backed out on Louisville for 2 games in '24 and '25 so Louisville needs 2 games and Stanford is losing several games in '24 and '25. There is NO CHANCE Louisville says NO and Louisville gets the 3rd Highest Ratings of all ACC Teams. Get those games and say "LOOK at the great ratings". Get some PR going. NOBODY in the general public knows that Louisville outdraws all ACC teams except FSU and Clemson so the results of the TV Audience will start a BUZZ about Stanford being more valuable for TV than they thought. Stanford needs that BUZZ in the ear of ACC Country.

[@sethstine4698]

The ACC only have 3 or 4 winning football programs (in conference) over the past 8 years. Clemson is 61-4. The others are barely over .500. But bring in Cal and Stanford?

[@arronfrazier7873]

Its about caring about football, history in football and tv brand in football! The ACC was screwed the moment it let the BB school of tobacco road who have been running the ACC and let BB lead in negotiating a 20 year tv deal/GOR. If FB was leading things, you never sign a 20 year deal. Inflation and other conference who are already making more money would sign 1 or 2 more deals to make even more money than the ACC. IE, the SEC And B10!

[@MercerKnowsBall]

@@arronfrazier7873 Without that 20-year GOR the ACC would have been raided and the PAC would have been left to wallow in irrelevancy for another cycle. That GOR was done to KEEP the ACC INTACT. That makes it a GENIUS LEVEL MOVE. The PLAN was to hold together and then EXPAND Dumbasses at FSU have RUIINED that plan and cost the ACC more than Stanford at CAL already. Dumbasses killed the Genius Level move because they can't read their own Financial Data OR the Data that shows this Expansion Makes Money. They say we want more money THEN vote against MORE MONEY because they are STUPID. They also can't read their own Contract with the ACC so they don't know that adding New Members does NOTHING to hurt their prospects of leaving. It is FREE MONEY at NO COST to what they want and these dumbasses vote against it.

[@robertgibbs6480]

All comments about NCStates No vote was very condescending. ACC is not NDs slave fb conference. NCState is better SeC fb fit than unc - not fb school. Also NCState fits Big 12 perfectly. Also NCState is a leading Carnegie R1 Research University, ahead of unc. NCState I’d NC largest public university. To suggest that only unc could afford to vote NO, but not NCState is a not to hidden condension!

[@aceboogie8576]

They don’t fit. If you think the ACC should add them anyway then you obviously don’t care about the ACC. I feel bad for those programs, especially their fan bases , but adding them makes zero sense.

[@jetsteeltherealdeal7827]

Nothing screams ACC like the Golden Gate Bridge

[@failed-venturestudio765]

The last thing we want is dealing with arrogant California fans or the God-awful travel out there.

[@mark8337]

Man, I don’t get why they wouldn’t want to join the Big Ten at a temporary reduced revenue share. They don’t have to pay ACC schools off that way. Cal too. Academics and research match too. DO NOT GET IT.

[@tarheel7406]

The B1G would have to offer such a deal.

[@mark8337]

@@tarheel7406 They’ve had ongoing discussions that include networks. But no agreement yet.

[@tarheel7406]

@@mark8337 That C/S would prefer the B1G is a given, but that's not the topic of the vid.

[@mark8337]

@@tarheel7406 Cal and Stanford is. So it is a part of it.

[@tarheel7406]

@@mark8337 No, the topic is whether or not the ACC should add C/S. That C/S would accept is a given for the discussion.

[@otisthetowndrunk]

It aint happening. Noter Dame is the only school who is behind this move, and they where told, only if you join in football also. No response from ND yet

[@MercerKnowsBall]

Notre Dame and 10 other schools WANT this move.

[@tarheel7406]

Per some reports, L'VILLE, PITT & GATECH are the strongest "yes" votes outside of ND. This suggests that they have no known interest from the SEC/B1G and they don't want to go to the BIG12. All of the Mag 7 are likely actual "no" votes but are keeping a low profile.

[@tarheel7406]

a) The ACC doesn't need academic or non-revenue sports prestige. STANFORD would add to that, but there's no compelling need. b) I suspect that NCSTATE has a pending SEC invite with or without UNC. c) Any potential remainders will want to keep ND happy to increase the chance of keeping the arrangement post depletion. No reason to not weak "yes" on a straw poll. d) If the ACC expands with value dilutive schools, any objectors will have a legal challenge to the GOR even if kept whole financially. e) Far better for the likely ACC remainders to settle with and release the others to get preemptive backfill done. That settlement would include future scheduling commitments far more valuable than what STANFRD/CAL could offer. f) Media markets don't mean as much for college football. There's a reason why the B1G took O/W over C/S.

[@pnut3844able]

They've already been rejected, thankfully

[@talk-is-pitt]

I honestly was in support of both Stanford and California joining the ACC but then I started thinking about sports other than football and I do not think it would be good mentally and physically for players and athletes of other sports who have to play multiple games in a week the travel out west and then maybe have to travel to another away game before coming home. Therefore I am no longer in support

[@tarheel7406]

Maybe, I don't see the travel to C/S a problem, since each ACC team can pair with another and play both over a single trip. The travel for C/S would be brutal. BTW... PITT is one of the strongest "yes" votes. Why do you think that is?

[@richardnelson3227]

If men can play women sports. It makes complete sense😂

[@FugitiveVette]

Coach Taylor is legit in three years. Stanford‘s gonna be really good and 4 to 5 years They’re going to be a elite!

[@mikehappy2620]

Who cares?

[@Mike-sp7zv]

They don't fit stop it

[@jlpack62]

No and No

[@branned]

Two woke colleges are joining the ACC...go figure!

[@skiparkcityut]

No one wants cal. Cal is toast: Stanford will end up in a major conference eventually when all the dust has settled. The realignment isn’t even close to being done. I don’t see stanford being an independent for a year or two being too big a deal

[@sethstine4698]

Stanford and Cal doesn't fit anywhere. They shouldn't have a football program. Their fans don't care because they have no fans.