Ace Attorney but the Defendants are Guilty (Objection.lol)

[@razorrat11]

300 likes woag. This is certainly motivating lol. Thanks y'all :D

[@euvieruwu]

Phoenix isn't a lawyer here, he's a prosecutor. Precisely, an ace prosecutor

[@razorrat11]

Phoenix Wright: Ace Prosecutor is real

[@the.inverted.pyramid.]

Phoenix Wright: Investigations is truly an interesting timeline...

[@Lost_Amount]

​@@the.inverted.pyramid.I agree

[@SquidPartyDude]

@@razorrat11very real

[@zasshu.7240]

Gyakuten Kenji 3!

[@JoggingFoxProductions]

Ace Attorney but Phoenix loses everyone who were and could have been near and dear to him

[@Mr.bluer9999]

Just like Apollo Justice

[@dylanzlol7293]

Then apollo would only have kristoph left once beanix, trucy, athena and etc. are thrown into jail.

[@KirbyLinkACW]

Can't wait for JFA, so we can see Matt Engarde if he was guilty--oh wait...

[@Blazing_Emblem_Natsumi]

so he actually isn't guilty this time

[@Hanasato_Sakura]

Adrian Andrew’s would be Shelly’s true client in this timeline

[@razorrat11]

@@Hanasato_Sakura Shelly would be kidnapping Pearl or someone else that time :(

[@OgerponXD]

@@razorrat11NO NOT PEARLY

[@ericchung4503]

Nah buddy. Wait until trial and tribulation where wright is the defendant, making all this non existence as he would be found guilty, unless he is place in a similar situation as blackquill

[@ItzSpxrk]

Out of all of the breakdowns, maya’s hurt me the most. imagine an alternate timeline where maya goes to jail, redd white gets away with murder and parts of the dl-6 incident, reunion and bridge to the turnabout never happens, and maya ultimately doesn’t become nick’s assistant..

[@razorrat11]

At least April May is innocent... if that's anything good lmao-

[@ItzSpxrk]

@@razorrat11 it isn’t or at least i don’t think it is she was merely redd whites secretary and was only good until she was in the detention center other than that there’s really nothing cool about her other than her rather interesting body design..

[@random-productions1837]

​@@razorrat11imagine if in the new timeline April May becomes Wright’s assistant instead and tries to give him information even if how it was sourced may be too shady to use in court.

[@ShycoWar]

Technically speaking, that timeline does exist. It's basically what happens when you refuse to defend Maya, and get a short "bad ending" sequence explaining she was found guilty the next day.

[@ItzSpxrk]

@@ShycoWar i think i did that one time and then phoenix wright was like “oh im just joking haha” or something like i don’t think the game gives you a choice lol

[@oats4breakfast]

Timetraveller: Stubs their toe on a stone The timeline: But fr, This kinda changes everything then. I really want to see how this plays out!

[@razorrat11]

I'm tempted to make a sequel already lol

[@oats4breakfast]

@@razorrat11 Looking forward to it already!

[@random-productions1837]

(Larry stubs his toe on Cindy Stone)

[@facoulac]

man, that video was a masterpiece. this twist with the villain being innocent is such well made

[@Hanasato_Sakura]

Damon Gant: Ah yes, time to cover up for my best ally, who stabbed an investigator to prevent her sister from knowing that she accidentally killed a prosecutor

[@catuwu4444]

Oh boy, Maya must be a serial killer who breaks out of jail every game to murder someone else! Also Phoenix was the defendant for the latter half of Turnabout Sisters-

[@SleepyKatAlt]

Only because he was defending Maya and Redd White accused him instead

[@Cryptgotbetteratthis]

Nobody: Will Powers: CURSE YOU PERRY THE EVIL MAGISTRATE ACTOR!!!

[@razorrat11]

Lmaoooo

[@manupm9161]

It's crazy how little effort it takes to make Larry guilty...

[@razorrat11]

Just make him A jerk Lol

[@dylanzlol7293]

​@@razorrat11so Ace attorney 1-1 if Larry had his personality from the later games

[@milo_south3670]

Phoenix chose to be a defense attorney with the worst track record imaginable, but he’s going to take over the prosecution’s job next.

[@razorrat11]

Hell yeah lol

[@SomethingfunnyIdontknow]

I did not feel any saddness when Larry when to prison. Larry will NEVER be yoysome.

[@razorrat11]

😭

[@roccopecori8446]

When Phoenix switchs from defense lawyer to attack lawyer

[@cartoonfan9million468]

I think I would call this Phoenix Wright, but every client is a Matt Engarde or Magnus Mcgilded.

[@Hanasato_Sakura]

Imagine if Maya, not knowing why her sister went for a career in laws, murdered Mia to secure her place as the main family, then breaks down after finding out her sister was trying to maintain peace between them all along

[@razorrat11]

:( That'd be effing depressing goddamn

[@Hanasato_Sakura]

⁠@@razorrat11that probably would make her the best sympathetic villain in AA, especially if she was motivated into doing so by Morgan Fey (maybe she was planning the whole thing, getting Mia killed, Maya sent to jail, so Pearl would be chosen as the next leader of the Fey clan. Or it’s just her attitude towards Misty that unintentionally turned Maya hostile against Mia)

[@razorrat11]

​@@Hanasato_SakuraA Morgan-influenced Maya is something I'm definitely intrigued by tho :p

[@vercettinguyen9063]

If Phoenix is a prosecutor.

[@lightninglord7832]

thats basically edgeworth. Wright trying to get a not guilty verdict no matter what because of his faith in his clients, while edgeworth getting a guilty verdict no matter what because of his faith in gumshoe

[@Nick_Cody_Hackins]

On bright side, at least Matt Engard could be innocent in this timeline. Yay! :D

[@OllieWesker9000]

Holy shit why was the Maya scene so powerful

[@razorrat11]

It had to be. She had to leave that mark on you. You're not seeing her for the rest of the game, after all 😭

[@random-productions1837]

just realised, Dual Destinies is gonna be wild if you ever get to that. Athena Cykes thought she had killed her mother, then got into analytical psychology and became a lawyer to try and get away from the incident, and after finding out that Damian Tenma killed Alderman Kyubi and getting him arrested (rip Nine-Tails Vale, unless Florent realises that his greed had just caused a tragedy and decides to fight against the merger, maybe even taking on the Amazing Nine-Tails persona), found that her best friend killed an honest law school teacher. Then, Athena and Starbuck both killed Clay Terran and Athena took Starbuck’s trial to get him declared not guilty. However, before that Juniper had killed Candice Arme, and after the courtroom blew up, she tried to frame Ted Tonate, with Athena having to implicate her best friend again. Then, Starbuck was found guilty, resulting in Athena having a nervous breakdown and never being able to say anything. That was, until The Phantom (Blackquill, if you count him being the defendant for Métis Cykes’s murder) was arrested, after which she then confessed to killing Clay as well. Or, if Tenma Taro was the defendant for Case 2, then maybe Florent was planning on killing the alderman, but then he saw Damian Tenma getting possessed and turning into Tenma Taro before killing the alderman, resulting in Florent receiving as many mental scars as Jinxie.

[@PhantomAarantula]

Phoenix gets to become a prosecutor. Who'd have thought

[@greencomet2011]

Maya actually killing Mia would be crazy.

[@razorrat11]

And controversial for the fanbase lol-

[@luizmatiello5549]

Nice video! If you make a sequel, i’d love to see maggey being arrested and gumshoe getting super angry at phoenix

[@razorrat11]

I really like Maggey so that's gonna be kinda hard lol 😭 I'll definitely do it when a sequel arrives tho

[@LizzieourWorld]

So kind of like 3-3 😂

[@Unknowncoolguy]

4:57 HE SAID THE THING!

[@razorrat11]

😭

[@HarmonizedHero]

Would that mean Phoenix stole the money in this timeline?

[@razorrat11]

Phoenix Wright is a greedy bastard-

[@lpfan4491]

Phoenix is looking incredibly villainous in this AU.

[@euvieruwu]

​@@razorrat11maybe in this timeline, Phoenix in Apollo Justice is like the Phoenix in turnabout series 4. Oh my god, it could be very creepy as idea

[@PlaguevonKarma]

My headcanon is that Maya actually committed every murder she's been accused of. Makes AA canon way funnier.

[@razorrat11]

Nooooo lol-

[@cartoonfan9million468]

Hey if this happens for trials tribulations with Phoenix Wright on trial for Doug Swallow’s electrocution, that would no doubt cause a temporal paradox, but it would be interesting nonetheless to see.

[@Tiamat-sz5qi]

Hope this becomes a series

[@esqueletotactico5773]

There's something i think im missing here, wasn't miles confession made by the pressure of those nightmares AND being found not guilty of hammonds murder? If that's the case wouldn't confessing murder robert also mean that there was no reason to bring the DL-6 incident there?

[@razorrat11]

Like I said, lots of things happened here but I can't bother to go through them all right now lol. But yea that's certainly a point :p

[@goldenwarrior1186]

I guess it was brought up as the motive for Hammond’s murder?

[@esqueletotactico5773]

@@goldenwarrior1186 good point. Although i find odd that a motive its not mentioned even in the game, or it might be i don't really remember

[@mamarcelo2410]

​@@esqueletotactico5773 The "motive" Von Karma gave to explain Edgeworth's reasons to kill Hammond, was 'cause he defended Yani Yogi, the man who to that point, was the culprit in Edgeworth's mind.

[@SniperOnSunday]

Phoenix Wright: District Attorney

[@aarohalme1020]

Rise frim the ashes would truly be protecting an innocent chief prosecutor who totally couldn't just avoid punishment via illicit means.

[@random-productions1837]

starting to wonder how awkward it’s gonna be when Phoenix gets arrested from murdering Doug Swallow (and possibly poisoning Godot), released, and becomes a lawyer, and Dahlia really was just a sweet girl who’s just as unlucky as Maggey Byrde is, in terms of run-ins with the law.

[@random-productions1837]

(except when Dahlia stole a diamond. And if she still poisons Godot.)

[@manupm9161]

It would have been cool if Manfred Von Karma were innocent of the DL-6 incident too and Yanni Yogi were the actual killer of Gregory Edgeworth.

[@razorrat11]

Welll Sometimes von Karma gets Um Karma :D

[@Hanasato_Sakura]

And Edgeworth shot Robert Hammond for letting Yanni Yogi successfully escape

[@lpfan4491]

​@@Hanasato_SakuraGenuinely makes too much sense. Now I actually want to see someone write a full fangame about this "AA, but everything is reversed".

[@reptiliannoizezz.413]

I actually just played this fancase on AAO which was The First Turnabout but with role reversal - Edgeworth and Manfred are the good guys, and Larry killed Cindy and framed Sahwit The name is "Shattered Glass". It was supposed to be a whole fangame, but it's been years and I don't see anything more than the first case 😔

[@Muffib4448]

So Phoenix stole the lunch money?

[@razorrat11]

Lmao yea >:D

[@westube3493]

That was the beginning of Larry's villain arc

[@vercettinguyen9063]

Next idea: Justice for All and Trials and Tribulations but the Defendants are Guilty.

[@HuakenStickberg]

Plus Adrian Andrews

[@dylanzlol7293]

So Maya killed dr grey from prison?

[@HuakenStickberg]

@dylanzlol7293 So Maggie killed Glen in prison?

[@dylanzlol7293]

@@HuakenStickberg well, 3-3 involves poison and we know a certain someone who killed somebody with poison on a stamping card

[@umut9107]

@@HuakenStickberg so maya killed the victim in 6-3 (i really forgot his name) when she was already executed years ago?

[@sonomni]

Dear god could you imagine so many controversial reviews if the game was actually like this? 😂

[@razorrat11]

Lmaooo I couldn't 😭

[@agatha6999]

I would like it if it all built up to Turnabout Goodbyes being Phoenix saying Goodbye to defending and hello to prosecuting

[@JecjecKoolitKidsChannel]

​@@agatha6999 and then that's one more controversial review added if the game was like this

[@lpfan4491]

The series would be a bottomless hole of controvercies if an AU like this was pushed to its logical conclusion. Especially the plottwist that Phoenix is retroactively morally bankrupt as heck.

[@SuperMophie]

Damn, all of Phoenix's friend being actual murderers? What the hell?

[@razorrat11]

The video doesn't lie huh 😭

[@senialweife]

wait, the fact that Maya is found guilty in Turnabout Sister... means that Reunion, and Turnabout can't happen-

[@AviatorJC]

That‘s kind of bitter sweet

[@razorrat11]

As to be expected

[@rdfox76]

HOLD IT! No Rise From the Ashes? Bad rat! Bad! No biscuit! ;)

[@FelixFalora]

There's a joke I want to make here, but it would spoil the first case of Trials and Tribulations.

[@SometimesRPG13579]

Wow, this is really cool! I'm interested to see how the story will affect future installments. Especially Rise To The Ashes. Will Emma be responsible this time? Also, guees Maya is an unintentional? serial killer now.

[@random-productions1837]

tbh for this video I thought it was like the defendants became the killers and the killers became the defendant.

[@random-productions1837]

though tbh I kinda envision Redd White at first blackmailing Wright to defend him, but then decides to stop after realising that Wright would defend him no matter what, no blackmail required.

[@Miniroket.]

At least he is on the persecution of truth

[@pogggaming4470]

Basically Miles Edgeworth shattered glass (that one fangame) but phoenix is still a defense attorney

[@yokai59loi36]

Next is JFA Let's see... Trial One, Maggey actually had her name written. Trial 2, Maya... she is already in Jail/mwntal hospital... what do we do... Trial 3 was Max being an asshole and Aceo wanting to peotect Regina. 4: Both Maya and Pearl were vital to chasing Dekiller and Dekiller is vital to the plot... how do we rewrite this?

[@euvieruwu]

Alternate defendants in this au: First case: Frank Sahwit Second case: Phoenix Wright, Redd White or April May Third case: Dee Vazques Fourth case: Yanni Yogi

[@razorrat11]

Just about what I was thinking!

[@pdawg193]

So does that mean that Dhalia Hawthorne is the Maya Fey of this universe, especially in Trials & Tribulations?

[@euvieruwu]

​@@pdawg193it's not a bad idea: in fact, I think Dahlia and Iris' roles could be reversed here. In this Au, Dahlia could be the real fiancee of Phoenix, instead Iris the fake fiancee that wants to kill Phoenix. Maybe in this timeline, it's Dahlia in the kurain's temple and the Dawthorne family adopt Iris and she will become evil. It would be interesting

[@mismagiusthemagicuser4389]

So basically Turnabout Goodbyes was the only one unchanged

[@razorrat11]

Pretty much, even if Edgeworth did the murder of Robert Hammond.

[@SuperJojoAnother]

If april may didn't call the police, gumshoe wouldn't come to office and murder case would end by accident. Any objection?

[@khalidibrahim7726]

Request: What if Ace Attorney Justice for All series put the defendants are guilty case 1-4.

[@LizzieourWorld]

Dear lord

[@euvieruwu]

For the Lana Skye's case, i imagine that she killed Bruce Goodman under blackmail from Gant for the SL9 case. For the rest, i think the fifth case could be the same (Gant arrested for the death of Marshall, forgied evidence, trying to put the blame of the crime on Ema, blackmailing Lana and being the mastermind of the death of Bruce. For Lana forgied evidence and the murder of Bruce Goodman)

[@razorrat11]

Exactly what I thought would happen too! Both are still being arrested, albiet some differences ofc.

[@euvieruwu]

@@razorrat11 maybe in this case, Phoenix defends Lana in the case but this is the first case where he will lose because the truth is that Lana is the murderer of Bruce (because in this au, the first defendant is Frank Sahwit, the second is or Redd White, April May or the Phoenix Wright, the third Dee Vasquez and the fourth Yanni Yogi and he always wins in these cases). But, however, he will find that she killed Bruce because she was blackmailed by Gant and he ordered her to kill him for the truth about the SL9 case. And then, Ema will be accused to be the murderer of Marshall, but Phoenix will defend her from the charges and he finally will corner Gant, proving that he killed Marshall, tried to frame Ema for it, blackmailed Lana into thinking Ema was the killer and forced her to kill Goodman since he knew too much. I don't rule out that here Ema could become an alternative Maya given that Phoenix could take care of her and her education also for Lana's will. In a nutshell, it is similiar to our fifth case, despite some differences

[@ubiratanmagalhaes7013]

Hold up🖐 LET. HIM. COOK🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@razorrat11]

🔥🔥🔥

[@mamarcelo2410]

I just... this is an amazing idea! It might be too far head, but with Miles out, how would the Investigations events occur? Phoenix maybe taking those cases to honour Edgeworth?

[@huryshmarkian]

If Miles would be considered as guilty, then AAI would simply not happen, except Turnabout Reminiscence

[@mamarcelo2410]

@@huryshmarkian That would be the the easy way to go but, what I'm wondering is, if we pretend those occuring no matter the improbability

[@dylanzlol7293]

Aai happens with franziska as the protagonist instead

[@ninten1989]

Thus, ace attorney investigations never happened with Miles Edgeworth, but instead Ema Skye 😎

[@razorrat11]

Hell yeah >:D

[@sonomni]

@@ninten1989 That is assuming Ema isn’t also guilty because of that handprint-

[@ricardorivera4094]

rise from the ashes: Lana Skye kills Bruce Goodman to protect Ema Skye That would be depressing and dark

[@razorrat11]

Yeah... I do feel as if Damon Gant would still fall along with Lana, but via a different method.

[@ricardorivera4094]

@razorrat11 so instead of manufactured blackmail it's genuine blackmail?

[@razorrat11]

@@ricardorivera4094 Ayup

[@sonomni]

@@ricardorivera4094 Sooo would Ema *also* be found guilty from that handprint?

[@Effkin176]

How in the world is maya ever gonna get charged in a JFA Sequel to this vid? Oh who am I kidding, its Maya. Girl will Still get accused from prison somehow 😭

[@Hanasato_Sakura]

Maya: Ah yes, a normal day of being accused of murdering some inmates, a prison guard, and somehow Prosecutor Godot who was there to eavesdrop on my aunt’s conversation

[@the.inverted.pyramid.]

The murder charges will always be at Maya's side : D

[@Hanasato_Sakura]

@@Effkin176 Plot twist: Maya was a bastard daughter whose dad was the second De Killer So all those victims were her targets (except Mia whose death was meant to secure her place as the main family), and she somehow managed to escape prison every time she was sent in And in 2-4 she teamed up with Shelly, who was actually her brother, and put on a whole show to pin the crime on Matt Engarde, who is innocent in this timeline while Adrian Andrews was the real client

[@MioAida57]

1:41 nice voice acting here lmao

[@razorrat11]

😭

[@anonimowyplgames]

Could you tell us, when we will get a second part of Turnabout Misconceptions

[@razorrat11]

By this Sunday or next week. :p

[@TheUnknownGamer6056]

Now this is confusing, Maya gets framed for murder three times… how will this work out 😅

[@wOlP5027]

I think case 4 would've ended without manfred von karma being found out gregory edgworth's killer.In the first day if trial mafred gets the judge to hand out a guilty verdict.In the og game larry would object to the verdict saying he was at gourd lake during the time of the murder but because larry is in prison due to being found guilty in case 1 he can't stop the verdict therfore von karma gets away without being charged

[@razorrat11]

Marvin Grossberg was in the boathouse.....

[@shadow_dsk]

Who is the prosecutor in Rise from the Ashes, if Edgeworth is in prison and will that mean, that Phoenix in AJ is also guilty and won't be in Dual Destinies? ... Wait! Phoenix IS guilty for the murder of Doug Swallow! 😢

[@razorrat11]

Ehhh We can say that the trials prior to The First Turnabout are the same

[@lpfan4491]

Phoenix:"Swallow this!" *yeets Doug into electrical cables and ends up getting off the hook because he managed to 'prove his innocence' by way of an alibi that they cannot disprove* Dang, this AU really takes shape bit by bit and it is utterly wild. Getting caught for actually being guilty of forged evidence would essencially be Phoenix's own "justice finally caught up with the criminal" moment. Of course, the even bigger ham of Phoenix 7 years later pulling this whole bit of catching Kristoph slacking just to then drop the bomb on Apollo of "want to know a secret? I actually did it btw".

[@sonomni]

@@lpfan4491 Nah at this point this is just Villain Phoenix AU XD

[@DripLory04]

Wait, Matt Engarde Is both the culprit and the defendant, how change the situation?

[@razorrat11]

He'd be guilty. Nothing in this ever said guilty defendants don't suddenly turn innocent, lol

[@DripLory04]

@razorrat11 you have the point😂

[@lpfan4491]

Sad.

[@LaynaTV-xk2nc]

Bit awkward.. but.. erm.. Unexpected? Yee..?

[@ЯрославКузнецов-ю7н]

неужели прокуроры выступают как защитники невиновных, но Феникс стал прокурором, самым жестоким прокурором, Феникс почему? почему твоя жестокость стала тобой управлять?

[@YMining]

so this video is basically Phoenix but a prosecutor...

[@razorrat11]

Pretty much

[@MrRatchet12661]

Yikes...Both Maya and Edgy out of the equation? And Larry? And Powers? Man, this sucks.

[@razorrat11]

They were indeed guilty as they said 😔

[@ЯрославКузнецов-ю7н]

ну хотя бы вновь уничтожил Карму, как самого наглого убийцу

[@razorrat11]

Yeah >:D

[@rom8224]

Ace Attorney reversed Plus it would be nice to see a good man Redd White, the man Giving funds for l Wright's Cia and using his influence by helping

[@zwataketa]

So WHY would anyone try and hire Phoenix to defend them here???

[@razorrat11]

Because he's that charming idk lmao

[@pogggaming4470]

Say, who’s going to be guilty in Reunion and turnabout?

[@razorrat11]

If y'all want a sequel, I'd be down to make it!

[@pogggaming4470]

@@razorrat11well it’s a second case in justice for all

[@maxhahm5333]

Maya gets channeled by a reminiscent Pearl and kills Grey out of revenge for Ini Miney, who she met in the Twilight Realm, the possession angle gets Pearl off the hook and free to be kidnapped in 2-4

[@pogggaming4470]

@@maxhahm5333 you think maya was sentenced to death?

[@maxhahm5333]

@@pogggaming4470 I doubt Maya's breaking out of prison, but she still has to be the culprit somehow. I think the only references we have for this are Sahwit getting prison for second-degree murder and Dahlia getting death for first-degree, so I guess Mia's death was premeditated?

[@ZPokemonfanA]

So who is the defendant for Case 2 and Case 4 in this alternate timeline?

[@razorrat11]

The defendant for case 4 would probably be Yanni Yogi, idk. For case 2... Highly likely that it's Phoenix himself or even April May.

[@stevengaming55]

I refuse to believe that Athena killed her mother , or that juniper woods committed not one but TWO crimes , but when you think about it [!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!] bobby is slightly more trustworthy than them ... Wait Wright's way of winning is by trusting his clients so how did he know Bobby was the phantom , man dual destinies is confusing 😵😵😵

[@barokvanzieks_tgaac]

How would Phoenix prove the judge and the courtroom gallery that the bullet was buried inside Von Karma's shoulder without the metal detector Maya had? Btw, Phoenix is acting like a prosecutor instead ngl.

[@razorrat11]

There's a lot of different ways he could've done what he did in canon. Perhaps he had Gumshoe help him, or hell, a different assistant comes and helps Phoenix altogether. Maggey Byrde maybe? It's kind of cool like this lol

[@dylanzlol7293]

​@@razorrat11 aa1-4 but ema is the assistant instead of maya

[@ryansierra-torres1293]

This is sad, yoy😢 (Edit: Good video though 👍)

[@robloxwithacetheavenger4908]

No RTFA

[@razorrat11]

Yeah... I said only the four cases in the beginning lol

[@lpfan4491]

What would that actually look like even? Depending on how far we want to go in reversing it, this can go completely off the rails convoluted.

[@razorrat11]

​@@lpfan4491I'd say to just not have what happened here correlate to RFTA. Both Lana and Gant are truly guilty. End of story :p

[@Usuário-qualquer01]

Razor Rat, i have 2 ideas of video, can you make DL-6 case where Robert Hammond was alive and Gregory Edgeworth, my 2nd video idea is, if Edgeworth was the prosecutor in Recipe for Turnabout

[@bibbagamer1284]

What's mayas motive tho

[@brianmorris4208]

To embarrass and humiliate phoenix wright

[@bibbagamer1284]

@brianmorris4208 you know what that makes sense

[@brianmorris4208]

@@bibbagamer1284 of course it is. Compared to other episodes that maya fey was involved in she never helped phoenix all she did was hold him back from realizing his true potential

[@razorrat11]

@@brianmorris4208 The average Maya hater 😭

[@brianmorris4208]

@@razorrat11 of course I'm a maya hater. All I see is how toxic their relationship is