Ace Frehley Tells KISS What it Would Take For Him to Play Their Final Shows!

Ace Frehley Tells KISS What it Would Take For Him to Play Their Final Shows! #kissband #acefrehley
Hey everyone!
KISS is back in the news with Ace Frehley, their original Lead Guitarist spilling the beans, and clarifying several things that his former band mates Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley have claimed over the past few months!
He discusses whether or not they have ever officially asked him to play at their final concerts as Gene Simmons has claimed.
He also talks plenty regard Paul Stanley as well in this interview.
So join me as I tear down the camouflage that has resulted due to well, evidently outright lies from the KISS franchise!
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[@48musicfan]

For me, KISS was no longer KISS when Ace and Peter left. I’m glad I saw them during the reunion tour after KISS Unplugged on MTV. At this stage, just end it.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Spot on MusicFan! ❤❤❤

[@user-uv3cj6uc7n]

Ace rules! Ace does what he wants when he wants!

[@zandig666]

Oh ya at least end the whole kiss with those 2 imposters it's really sad I saw 2 reunion shows it was great

[@zandig666]

@@user-uv3cj6uc7n gotta love ace really hes frukn lazy and lackadaisical hhhhhhhhhhha and memorable as a player big time

[@hamptonwoodturnings]

They didn't leave, they were fired.

[@garytrew2766]

I saw the real KISS on December 30,1977. It was a great show.

[@reubensane5539]

I was there if you’re talking about MSG I still have my WPLJ salutes kiss pin,Piper opened up.

[@larryoneill7432]

Didn’t see that one but saw that ‘77 tour in Atlanta. First concert. You’re right. Great show

[@LetsGoThere]

I was a small kid and my mom let me go to that show. It was my first concert. The Omni was full of pot smoke so I'm sure I got contact high and people were lighting firecrackers from the upper seats. I was freaked out before the show even started!

[@garytrew2766]

@@reubensane5539 yup Piper did open

[@garytrew2766]

@@reubensane5539 I saw a young boy out front with Gene Simmons makeup and costume on did you see him I was 18 years old at the time

[@leokimvideo]

The fact stands at the 96 / 97 reunion tour Kiss sold out 4 nights at Madison Square Garden and many other venues has multiple sell out shows. Gene was so ecstatic at the money bags that Ace & Peter brought to the band. This 96 / 97 tour should have been the wrap up of the band on a high. But sadly greed and delusion set in as Paul & Gene pushed the band way past it's use by date. Pauls voice has been totally shot since 2010, and the 'Fake Ace' Tommy Thayer is still unable to add to the Kiss vault of music even though he's been in Kiss since 2002. But that actually suits Paul & Gene who completely control the fate of the band. Kiss's final live shows at Madison Square garden are only 2 sold out nights. So see what happens when Peter and Ace are excluded. I could explain much more but I'm sure Michael understands as much as I do on Kiss.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

To me they one of those few bands that were a foursome that needed each other, and even one missing, it’s not KISS IMHO Leo! ❤❤❤

[@Whitleythe13th]

yes the "real" KISS has been gone for decade's...I used to have so much Music memorabilia and that included KISS stuff...now because I had to down size...I have the greatest hits CD from 2007... I think...either way the original Band on the front cover and throughout the artwork...and the McFarlane Toys bust statues...color versions...the sculpts were taken from the Alive album...

[@darcagis5744]

They are half-KISS, half cover band. Having Tommy and Eric emulate and wear the make-up of Ace and Peter doesn't feel right.

[@jeffreyjohnson646]

They chose to cap it at two show. They could probably do four show or more if they wanted to. Even so, two sold out nights is awesome.

[@user-lr4rv5wy3t]

Pail's voice couldn't handle more than 2 in a row...can't handle 2. Sheesh.@@jeffreyjohnson646

[@chrisoakley5830]

Kiss should have ended after the first Farewell tour in the early 2000s with the original band intact, Gene and Paul have really botched the ending of Kiss.

[@adamfindlay7091]

Ace? Moe talent in his dandruff than K$$ had in the last 20 year crew imo.

[@kryticaldepth5220]

Agreed... He's the real deal !!! Got that real rock n roll magic in his veins....

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

I can at least respect Gene and Paul for not turning into Kiss versions of Glenn Frey and Don Henley.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Amen to that Adam! ❤❤❤

[@DaP84]

Love Ace, but you are overhyping him! He was awesome back in the day. But his recent material, except some covers, has been weak. And his playing has degraded a lot, especially live

[@adamfindlay7091]

​@@DaP84.maybe. but have to respect thee guy, reason I picked up the 6 string.

[@MickC2167]

It's sad what has happened to Kiss in the past few years at the hands of Gene and Paul. They should have gone out on top like Gene and Paul always brag about, but instead they have driven the band into the ground trying to milk every last dollar from their fans. The once great band who used to slam other bands for using tapes is now a shadow of its former self, with Paul Stanley miming 90% his vocals each night. It's really sad to watch. While Ace is obviously showing signs of age and the previous substance abuse, I'd much rather see him live than Kiss. In fact, if I was given free tickets I wouldn't bother with Kiss. At least Ace is still playing live without tracks.

[@jimmyleon2983]

I don't blame Ace, in fact I agree with him on being paid accordingly, a quarter million sounds fair to me. I also agree with him on not wearing his makeup and clashing visually with Tommy who is wearing Ace's makeup. Peter Criss should be given the same option as well.

[@ericlewis217]

Check out Ace’s brand new tune ‘10,000 Volts’. Ace has been making the best “KISS” music since his Anomaly release.

[@clydekimsey7503]

Michael, i agree with you about KISS. I saw them once in 1977. I enjoyed them then, but have no desire to see them again. Their best album, Destroyer, still rocks!

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

I like that one too Clyde! ❤❤❤

[@user-cb2kb8uc2q]

​@JohnDoe-du3vq Those are great, but I love Creatures, and Lick it up

[@teddynugent2463]

I saw the Love Gun tour. Then came the mighty Van Halen, and I was done with them after hearing VH1

[@giraffesareselfish9563]

I can't say they are no longer Kiss after Ace and Peter left (huge Ace fan here) because as I was only 10 years old when Ace left, Kiss was my absolute favorite band in the 80's and 90's. However, the moment they put the make-up on Singer and Thayer I was done. What they have become disgusts me.

[@mikecronan550]

Paul is a prima dona.

[@markusaurelius777]

GIANT EGO, just like Genie-Boo.

[@richardsmith7330]

I saw Kiss with the original band members and also I seen Kiss with the two replacements. The magic is in the original band and plus the original members play the music a whole lot better.

[@wrinkleneckbass]

It's sad that these grown men can't put aside their differences and do a few shows with the original lineup. The fans would love it.

[@neutchfitzgerald2236]

It’s true about being grown men. No matter what Paul said about Ace, he should be a part of the end. Do it for the fans. Heck, full makeup and everything. Don’t care if Tommy is on stage, Ace was the original Spaceman, show him how it’s done.

[@The_Music_Sanctuary]

I was at the 1st Kiss concert in North America on the 5th of February 1974, at the Jubilee Auditorium, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. As a teenager back then I even joined the Kiss Army, but when Ace and Peter left so did I. That was Kiss to me, and I did go back for ths reunion tour in 1997. Then, once again Ace and Peter left, but this time I bought a one way ticket instead of the usual round trip....cheers....✌️

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Well said Sanctuary! I concur! ❤❤❤

[@georgeedward1226]

Coming from a guy whose first rock album was Kiss Alive when it was first released and from a guy whose front door is just a few blocks away from the site of the old Coventry club where Kiss played their first shows, I can honestly say that you couldn't give me free tickets to see them now. I'd rather remember them in their prime or at least before they got their first AARP letters.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

LOL! 😂 Hey I resemble that remark George! 😉👌❤

[@giraffesareselfish9563]

If the current Kiss played in my living room, I would get a hotel room for night. Lick It Up is in my top 2 Kiss albums. The fact is, I've supported every lineup of Kiss (including Eric Singer when he replaced Eric Carr), but I can't support this.

[@recabitejehonadab2654]

I wouldn’t see them if they were playing down the street for free.

[@daveb8449]

Packed arenas around the world prove that lot of people don't share your views.@@recabitejehonadab2654

[@daveb8449]

Nobody cares what you can or can't support, believe me.@@giraffesareselfish9563

[@uhhuhyeahtight]

You know, I'm just really glad that I was around to see these guys in 1976.... "ALIVE" was the first album I bought, and the album also marks the first time I'd ever heard of the band. I was all of 9 years old, and another kid actually brought the LP to class for Show and Tell!!! Lol At that age, I was interested in two things. Comic Books, and Music... It seemed to me that the band was a little of both. They were never better than they were during that time. I'm in my mid 50's, and have been playing since since around 1982. Music has allowed me to see the country (more than once), and when I wasn't traveling, I played gigs in and around my hometown, and eventually ended up with a publishing deal in Nashville. I always say that I've been blessed, and without hearing that album way back when, I may have never even learned to play anything but the radio... For me, those four original guys were the best, just like the announcer says at the beginning of the album. Thanks for the inspiration, and thanks for the magic. 🎩🍸🎩

[@robertcovino4889]

I was so happy to see the 90s reunion tour twice. I was too young in the 70s to go to the concerts according to my mother. Those shows were incredible. 🍻

[@CSMuffin]

KISS is such a joke band these days... I actually remember buying their debut album when it came out and loving it. It is still my favorite Kiss album. I was a fan for maybe 2 or 3 years and then I just got bored with them. Ace is my favorite Kiss member, and he seems to be a pretty good guy, especially compared to Gene. This will be their final show until their next show...

[@FuturePast2019]

KISS had one talent... Ace.

[@stormbringercoming8105]

Has there ever been a final concert by a band with original members and perfect closure? Pink Floyd’s Live 8 appearance is the only one that I can think of.

[@paisleydunbar7218]

Although not a final concert nor a perfect sense of closure, i would say Alice Cooper and the members of the original ACG have looked genuinely happy to have been participatung in the project that they helped create so msny years ago. Their contributions to recent Cooper releases, live shows and various public appearances like R&R HoF and their record store appearance to promote Dennis Dunaway's book seem like their is genuine love between the surviving members of that band and the contemporary incarnation of their lead vocalist.

[@LarryGonzalez00]

I've seen KISS live three times over the years ('76, '78, '97) and each time it was the original four, full make-up, full show, sounding great. I wouldn't see them now, especially since I'm sure they're charging an arm and a leg.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Yeah I hear tickets are up there Larry! ❤❤❤

[@atatterson6992]

No, just a leg... arm is optional.

[@LarryGonzalez00]

@@atatterson6992 Once you throw in tax, parking, merch, maybe a little grub or a drink, arm is essential.

[@DionysusAlS]

The more I see how undignified and pathetic Kiss is in their alleged final days, the more grateful I am that my beloved Rush went out still near the top of their game and in a classy and dignified way. Textbook examples of how to do it and how not to do it.

[@user-xf4dp4zv7p]

Rush sucks, not relevant

[@Dan-cl3md]

​@@user-xf4dp4zv7pNot relevant ? Both are Rock bands , both around at the same time , Rush opened for KISS , both had drummers that died....... what more do you want ? U don't know what you are talking about 😒

[@chrisstengren8995]

Yes…agreed….Gedd and Alex sometimes make rumblings of a drummer and concerts but I hope they don’t…it would be a huge mistake….they were great until the last concert and when Neil joined them at the end for a bow-perfect ending in my book….sad to see them go but glad they were …..

[@brianshaffneraclc]

@@chrisstengren8995 Geddy has suggested that if they did, it would not be a trio, they'd likely take more musicians and do something different. I doubt we'll get another Rush show, but we may see a few Lee/Lifeson + friends gigs, which would be dope.

[@Skazellino]

Rush blows.

[@Hneely]

Without Ace and Peter I won’t be making any plans to see Kiss. I went to see their destroyer tour and that will have to do

[@josephfrager9325]

I saw them 3 times. Twice with Ace and Peter and once with Tommy and Eric. 79, 97, and 2012. It’s too expensive nowadays. I looked up the pay per view for the final show and it’s 39.99 a lot cheaper than the price to go there. I’m just glad it’s over. I also read that Gene said if Ace and Peter were to do it they would not wear the makeup. In my opinion they probably would’ve only done 2 or 3 songs anyway so it’s not worth it

[@bigboyoz]

Hi Micheal,it would be good to have Ace and Peter at the last concert at Madison Square Garden as a celebration of the bands success over 50 years! Keep well. Cheers Glenn Sydney Oz

[@ivanthecheese9119]

Ace wants what he feels he deserves I feel that , and the fact that Peter is not responding is probably because he is in a good place in his life and after years of Gene and Paul putting those guys down I can understand why Ace and Peter are fine with letting the past be the past, I read all four books and Peter and Ace owned up to their issues and better themselves. I love the band Kiss but if Peter and Ace sit this out I fully understand

[@genuinefreewilly5706]

I Dont really care, but for goodness sake, quit the drama and go out with a bang, I am sure they will all make tons of coin

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

That band a bit more I’m sure freewilly! 😉👌❤

[@fiftyfeistyandfabulous7402]

Yes, it’s important to have the original members. Ace and Peter should be there. And they should be paid.

[@lukt482]

I watched the telecast of the final show with a bunch of other Kiss fans. What a brilliant show. Fantastic. No Ace? No Peter? So what! No big loss.

[@riciron8824]

Kiss is basically it's own tribute band has been for two decades.

[@rticle15]

Nah. The two primary creators and songwriters remained in the band.

[@timothyrobinson1612]

@@rticle15 💯👍

[@markusaurelius777]

@@rticle15 The two who are not as talented as the others. Gene & Paul may write stuff, but musically they are SIMPS.

[@rticle15]

@@markusaurelius777 lol. Ok

[@royceinthehouse842]

This is one band I never got excited about. There have been some songs I liked but not enough to make me a fan.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

But what a twisted fairy tale to follow, eh brother Royce?😉👌❤🏆

[@royceinthehouse842]

Michael absolutely

[@Rich-jd9up]

ACE and PETER SHOULD be there. ABSOLUTELY. 🤘🏻

[@Taffer9876]

September 22, 1979 I saw KISS with Judas Priest in Chicago. I was 13. Can't beat that for 10 bucks. 10 Rows off to the side, but I felt the heat of the flames on the stage. Judas Priest was superb. Much of the KISS show was nothing more than a rumble. Still fun though. I met Ace and Peter at book signings and it was awesome. I made Ace laugh when I told him I saw him in Chicago in 1979 and he said he just came from Chicago and I said took you forever to get here lol. Peter was cool too. I was in line and he walked right by me. I made him laugh too. They are not KISS without Ace and Peter. End of story.

[@joeyjag666]

I was at that show at the old international amphitheater After it was all said and done ….I walked away a huge Judas Priest fan because I thought priest smoked kiss because dynasty was awful , the show was hokey and the place was packed with little kids…..

[@Taffer9876]

Awesome! The sound was great for Judas, but KISS was a rumble mostly. I suppose I was a kid as well.My mom and dad took me. They liked it, surprisingly. That place in Chicago was top notch lol. Nice to hear from someone else that was there. I was a big Judas fan before I saw KISS. I saw they were warming up and I begged the folks to take me:)@@joeyjag666

[@ianhall1198]

Saw that a couple days later in Milwaukee.

[@reubensane5539]

I saw that tour In the summer in MSG ,in NYC (New England opened)then again September Nassau, Coliseum w Priest !

[@Taffer9876]

Good grief! I thought you were the bass player for Judas Priest for a second:)@@ianhall1198

[@Puttynuts]

I saw KISS in 76, 78, 79, 83 and 2021. The band from 21 was probably the best KISS cover band I ever saw

[@FullOnK1]

My only fear is that they play the final show then start it all back up again with Ace and Peter. I would rather just go see Ace solo. Hopefully the Kiss long death will finally come to an end. They should have put it to rest after Psycho Circus. They could at least have said they made some music together, successfully toured, and called it a day. Instead you get to see the wheels slowly falling off for two decades.

[@Deucealive75]

I'm not so sure about the wheels falling off. Most bands would give their left nut to be playing to 10K plus people a night for two decades, original band members or not.

[@crazykong1967]

Ace and Peter should have been at Madison square garden, regardless the price. No disrespect to Eric and Tommy, but Ace and Peter are the founding members of the band. Imho, it's a shame that it did not happen.😵‍💫

[@jonnyriggs4372]

I don’t have a problem with the current lineup of KISS, I have a problem with the narrative that Paul and Gene use to justify the lineup.

[@arpeggio62]

They are irrelevant. I am an old rock n roller and they Do NOT Matter . Good for Ace !

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Ditto that Arpeggio!❤❤❤

[@detpak]

Michael, KISS ended for me after Ace and Peter left. I saw them in 1978. I only think of the original 4 as KISS, I would like to see Ace and Peter come onstage for the So-Called last show and do a couple of songs, I'd assume Peter could just do Beth and Hard Luck Woman sitting like they did for the MTV un-plugged show years ago.

[@manicdiamond4504]

Kiss will always be kiss with ace and peter

[@chrisstengren8995]

I was a huge kiss fan in the 70’s but stopped because I moved on to other rock….I will always love the music they made before 1980…Alive 1 was the first rock album I ever bought…I have a vinyl copy currently….I have come to really hate gene and Paul……it started to dawn on me it was just a marketing venture disguised as a band and the metal heads were duped into buying anything …I mean really anything…..coffins…condoms….kiss kruses….it’s all just fugazzi…..my good friend is from Cadillac Michigan and was a high schooler when kiss invaded-really invaded the town in 1975…..the mayor wore kiss makeup for gods sake…..10 or so years ago the town wanted to honor this event with ceremonies and a huge granite monument…..this attracted the die hard kiss army folks and my friend escorted one of these rabid fans to some of the sights around Cadillac where kiss was back then…..this guy was so excited to have a brick from the torn down motel they stayed in….my friend gave this guy a mimeograph flyer that kiss threw out of a helicopter on the football field…I guess my buddy had a stack he picked up after they littered the field with them….so at the unveiling of the monument I was there and the mc told the crowd of about 300 kiss fanatics that the town tried to contact gene and Paul but didn’t hear anything from them……that was the final nail in my kiss fandom….to think what kiss meant to the town and those dicks couldn’t care less….eff them…..but apparently they can still cash in because the farewell tour de jour is probably lucrative…..I even herd Paul say that there could be a revolving cast of band members in makeup to perpetuate the grift into perpetuity…..how’s that for a big one up the you know where…..

[@youngproscia]

When Peter and Ace left after reunion, that was the end of Kiss. That’s not Kiss anymore, that’s a Kiss tribute band

[@oliverjackson5070]

Every band should finish how it started, original lineup & all.

[@larryoneill7432]

Paul & Gene don’t want Ace up there. He would steal the show

[@frogbones1968]

I've seen kiss 4 times. The last one was the 1996 world/alive tour in Memphis. It was the first tour with the originals since the 1979 Dynasty tour. It was good. I would not pay to go see this version. Glad im a witness and can testify about the realdeal💋🤘

[@markeades7066]

I was at that one and Knoxville in 96. Great shows. First concert was KISS in 77 on RARO tour. Tickets were $6.50.

[@davedavis775]

I saw them in the late 70's and back in the mid 90's . Thats it was good enough for me . I dont want to see groups that are more like a tribute band with few original members and spend outrageous money to do so. Apparently a lot of concert goers dont seem to care and will spend stupid money for the bragging rights to see these guys and similar acts . Last concert i saw was Jeff Beck at the Appel Center in York Pa . 2019 . Great concert and great intimate venue .

[@67marlins]

Ace has a good point here. Thanks for posting.

[@sonoroustripleh]

I agree they havent been Kiss ever since the farewell tour ended!

[@ctrockstar7168]

ACE RULES!!!❤️❤️❤️

[@R.A530]

It’s already been said by others below, but the original KISS reunion in 1996 was what everyone wanted. Once Peter and Ace left a few years later, that should have been it. That’s certainly when I stopped following them. Putting Singer and Thayer in Ace and Peter’s make-up was just outrageous. Pull the plug already, guys. You’ve accomplished a lot. Nothing more to prove.

[@bsnf-5]

Saw them once in the current lineup and they were great. I don't care about Ace not being on the band and I don't care about his arguments with Gene and Paul. It's all over anyway. The last show was in December this year, and that's about it. We can listen to their legacy, to their old records and still enjoy the music. I don't care about the rest. Tommy and Eric Singer did both a great job in replacing Peter and Ace.

[@geotechmore8855]

KISS isn't KISS without Ace and Peter.. )^_-)/

[@MICKEY4356]

If Ace showed up and sang "Shock Me" it would help sales for his solo album. ⚡⚡

[@recabitejehonadab2654]

Probably.

[@eldonb402]

But wait, isn't that Tommy's song? :D

[@KardboardKenny]

KISS are my '70's Mego doll collection. Paul, Ace, Gene and Peter.

[@markymarxx7022]

Cobo hall twice, and 1996 Tiger Stadium. Without Ace Frehley and Peter Chris, they never sounded like KISS again, except the Reunion. They had some decent songs After breaking up. Frehley's solo album is very good, And once in a while I crank some Fractured Mirror. New York Groove was a big surprise. I was thrilled for him. His songs, his riffs, double leads and bending the strings, he is just damn good. Paul and Ace Playing identical leads in Detroit Rock City. They were fucking great. Great experiences for me.

[@ericcurry-pitcher5493]

I've heard rumblings that they will still do cruises, and maybe even a tour minus makeup so they can say goodbye to the non makeup era. The gear, and the Great Expectations, that come with it. So yes Kiss will continue in some capacity.

[@lisaneal2025]

I beg the differ kiss is definitely done after the new York final curtain call

[@ericcurry-pitcher5493]

@@lisaneal2025 I hope you're right, but rumblings from the Kiss camp, are just like those of the last farewell show. It only took months, and they were back. This summers cruise will feature non makeup Kiss, in chairs. The summer after, full stand up no makeup shows. I guess time will tell.

[@jeffreyknight3884]

Kiss died when ace and Peter left the band.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

I concur Jeffrey! ❤❤❤

[@193475464]

It would be epic 1 more time.

[@tgguitarguy]

Welp that sucks Ace. Cause they kicked ass without you. It would've been great to see all existing members come together and celebrate the whole band's legacy, but I see you're still caught up in the drama.

[@WhatDidIwinToday-li2yd]

They need to do it before they cant. Not to many older bands that have all their members still ROCKIN Life.

[@talesofanasphaltjockey]

Kiss is not KISS without Frehley & Criss. I agree with Ace in terms of this not being "the end of the road" ... greed is a hell of a drug & both Gene & Paul are addicts.

[@Vedder10VS]

I love Kiss but they have been nothing more than a Vegas act for 20 plus years now. Ace has put out at least 5 album of new music (2 were cover albums but still!). And he has a new single out now that sounds pretty damn good. For all the years Paul and Gene gave Ace shit, Ace seems to be the one that is the most focused on the music now. Sure he plays a lot of the old songs in concert, but at least he's creating. That's something Gene and Paul haven't done for quite some time now.

[@Vince_Tasciotti]

Frehley's Comet changed members and it was still Frehley's Comet, in attitude and performance quality. In the beginning Kiss was a $immons and $tanley lead project, Kiss played their last show with $immons and $tanley in the front seat. If Ray Charles or James Brown had changes in their band's line up nobody said a word, they just went with it. Nobody got angry when The Rolling Sones replaced Brian Jones. So a change in members can be a good thing and even make the group stronger.

[@petej.8676]

KISS isn't KISS without Ace & Pete. Gene and Paul have no respect for either. $ and trim is all Gene has Ever cared about. And Paul comes off as holier than thou. Ace created the KISS LOGO and the Spaceman persona. Gene and Paul can cash their checks as Ace and Pete hold onto their integrity as original members who along with the other 3 made KISS what they are today.✌️

[@TheOriginalSplash]

I live here in Detroit, and there first reunion show at Tiger Stadium I went too, that show will never be topped. People were balling, crying everybody was so happy to see them back together again my opinion that show was the best I had ever seen, and I had seen KISS god 8 times before that. Another funny fact my uncle can be seen in the audience on there Alive album on inside cover. He brought that up constantly ....lmao.

[@Deucealive75]

Agree on the Tiger Stadium show. No concert comes close to the feeling we all had at that show. I think that the unexpected and automatic emotional responses was trigged by not being able to believe what you are seeing. Tears of joy.

[@sticksbass]

it was never kiss without ace and peter. the music was never better wout them.

[@ronbaker8383]

Best kiss album (creatures of the night ) in 1973 kiss opened for Nazareth. Dan McCafferty stood off the side and said this band is going places

[@MikeGervasi]

Ace WAS the rock soul of Kiss. Without him it's not Kiss. I saw them 3 times during the reunion tour. FIrst 2 times they were on fire. Last time, Peter wasn't there and they didn't bother to tell anyone that Eric was in the makeup. The band sounded tired. So late 90's was THE time to see them. Now? Not Kiss, don't bother.

[@ChicagoBeaver]

Growing up, I had one best friend that shared the love of 70's rock bands. We hated Kiss. Never liked any of their music, we thought they were posers. To this day, I can't stand any of their songs, they suck. Being a guitar player, I listened to many guitar players, bands and owned many albums. Proud to say I never owned any of their albums and never will. Nuff said. Rock out man!

[@PT-sj2ww]

Not for $225,000. Hopefully , Ace has a good agent , and attorney ! Seems his former band mates are cheap so and so's.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Agreed PT! ❤❤❤

[@michaelbutters5650]

My opinion is I don't acknowledge kiss in their current line-up. It's either the Four or none . My opinion of the Beatles is even if one member left and I'm sure their fans would agree it wouldn't be the same . The original in my eyes is original not bits of pieces .cheers enjoyed as usual .

[@captnjack69]

Why can other bands replace key members and noone says shit , Kiss is the only band that I know that cant do that . Ace was a member and he chose to quit . He and Peter sold the rights to eveything they had to do with kiss . Tommy and Eric have been members a hell of alot longer than ace and Peter ..

[@toms4442]

I have been a fan since '77 and have supported them in all there incarnations. However since the fairwell tour of 2000-2001 Gene and Paul should have called it quits. Several months agoAce was asked by Eddie Trunk what costume he would want to where if he played at the last show, Ace replied i would show up in my boxers , as long as i got paid! Lol That is the langue that Gene and Paul Speak. Peter , ( just my opinion) would not showup for any amount of money! Also i think Peter is more than capable of playing a few songs with these guys, i dont think they would be able to play with him due to backing tapes and pre-recorded vocals. PAUL AND GENE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES!

[@theberrybest]

I saw them in 96 on two different occasions. That was enough for me. Great concerts!

[@bobthebear1246]

I've never had a problem with Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer being in Kiss. What I have the problem with is Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer being in the Catman and Spaceman costumes, respectively. They should have just come up with new characters for them to play. Simple as that. I don't think any true Kiss fan would have had a problem with that. But Gene and Paul couldn't even do that for the fans. 🙄

[@jeffhodge7272]

That's because Gene and Paul decided when the makeup went back on,it was there to stay.They told Peter and Ace that too. The "Farwell" was to the dark cloud and flake that were Peter and Ace.

[@markusaurelius777]

@@jeffhodge7272 The farewell was in 1997. After that they just played the same old show. Paul's voice is shot. Pauly Lip-Sync.

[@jeffhodge7272]

@@markusaurelius777 WRONG.Farewell was in '00 to get rid of dead weight.

[@mikeprescott7658]

At what point do Ace and Peter take responsibility for their actions? They have been non members for A LOT longer than they were members. The band is as good as it ever was.

[@MrOccyc]

Lol, responsibility? Never. Peter has made a career of being the victim in this drama. Everyone else’s fault.

[@mikeprescott7658]

@@MrOccyc truth. Although Ace chirps much more. As incredibly talented as he is, they haven’t had a tough time selling out venues without him.

[@parkerbalfour2070]

Didn’t Ace have to relearn alot of guitar licks back in 96 it’s not like they actually play live anymore it looks like a recorded show there voices are all shot but what a show they do put on . Is it worth the price ?

[@Guitarplaye_r]

Ace IS Kiss.

[@user-yo8rw6wr6r]

I saw the orignal line up when I was like 13 years old. I will never forget that. .. I sa them 3 or 4 times later on in life and I thought, If it weren't for the theatrics I probably wouldn't be there. KISS will commercialize their chit if they can make a dollar off it and thats sad. Just look at Led Zeppelin, They pick their shots and those shots are far and few between and thats why many still yearn to see something from them. As a quartet, Even the mighty Zep aren't Zep without John. by the way! Kiss, NOT kiss without Ace and Peter.. Jeez, , You could put Justin Biber in a wig and Make-up and call it KISS and the new generations think their seeing KIss, No, There not! They're seeing the circus when Ringling Brothers' aren't in town.

[@jameswilson7084]

The guys playing lead guitar and drums have now been in KISS longer than Ace and Peter. It would be like saying Ronnie Wood isn't really a Rolling Stone.

[@giraffesareselfish9563]

So what? How much new music did the Stones make with Ronnie Wood? Did Ronnie Wood put on a costume to look like whomever he replaced?

[@jjknight115]

I remember seeing kiss in 1976 Bob Seger was back up. I haven’t bought a kiss CD since the 70s that should tell you all you need to know.

[@Richardsimpson-nk4lo]

KISS RULES!!!! I hope they ride this another twenty years! As for Ace and Peter of course I wish the original four had always been there but they weren't. AC DC ,Van Halen,Cheap Trick ,the Rolling Stones even Rush did not always have the original guys in the band and I really wish people would stop bitching about it. Those who complain the most will never reach the bottom of those guys platform boots! You need to recognize that!

[@CarefulWithThatAxeEugene]

I saw the original members in 98 was a great show. Time to let it go guys you've done enough.

[@drmusic3641]

I havent heard a word from either of them mentioning Eric Carr. I would think that they'd have some sort of video tribute to him. After all, he was in the band from 1981-1990, There also has been no mention of Bruce Kulick, another long time member.

[@canemreakay8941]

ACE the man We love you.

[@canemreakay8941]

All kiss guitarists were good, but Ace looked completely different on stage. His style, the tone of his voice, his unique moves.. No one could say come on everybody shout it loud or Shock me like him.

[@user-qr7ee2cp4y]

Any amateur at karaoke night could belt out ace's tunes as well as he does.

[@canemreakay8941]

@@user-qr7ee2cp4y You don't understand what I mean

[@DontKilltheWhale]

The point being made isn’t so much about Ace’s talent as a singer or guitarist, I think it’s more about his unique kind of swagger. It’s unmistakable and if you put 100 guys dressed up as Ace on stage trying to imitate him, most early KISS fans can point out the original from a mile away. It’s kinda like the Jeep commercial- “…there’s only one…”

[@canemreakay8941]

@@DontKilltheWhale I totally agree, that's what makes Ace is Ace. He's one of the coolest guys I've ever seen.

[@garyspring5981]

I was never a fan of the band kiss just not my bag as they say . However my favorite is deep purple or canned heat acdc lead zeppelin too name a few

[@markleyshon]

peace to k.i.s.s,farewell,everything ends,that's life.simple.

[@felixlusash]

Michael, I have loved your Beatles videos for years now. I love the Beatles. I’m in my 50s and KISS were my American Beatles. No other American band had all its members it’s equal billing,songwriting,etc. But since the fakers in make up came along, I’ve given up on them. 5:37

[@tommanna6137]

I love Craig Gass doing impressions of Gene and Paul.

[@tod3msn]

Paul's vocal range is limited as he is in his mid 70's and probably did not spend much time working with vocal coaches. Gene is starting to show his age and is tiring more quickly so the shows are a physical strain on them both. Technology has such that holograms are performing for all kinds of acts like Ronnie James Dio and Whitney Houston and Roy Orbison and it's only going to expand as times goes on. What happens is a representative of the artist will hire musicians to play around a hologram that will be taken from past performances but will look like it is for that performance. Technology is mind blowing. People are amazed at how close the hologram of that artist is to the artist in person. I was on simulated tours of space and I actually had to remind myself I was not on Mars. So, these hologram shows are only going to get better as technology improves. Ace and Peter don't own any interest in Kiss anymore so the hologram shows can go on without them getting paid.

[@3wheelmannc860]

I have been a Kiss fan for a long time. I am tired of the drama real or otherwise. After all these years there will be issues from the past, but IF these are the true end of the road shows, I think it would be nice to have ALL living Kiss members (that have ever played under the Kiss banner) together for these shows... record the shows and sell the documentary... Cha' Ching...more $$ for all.

[@timp1051]

With all due respect, Ace and Peter are former members for a reason

[@timothyrobinson1612]

👍

[@robertgagnon767]

Your actually correct. Not many will say it though

[@chrishenry6367]

Ace and Peter can't do it anymore. It's been a while since they couldn't do it. Even if they could no way would I want to deal with their drama on a tour.

[@RandyFricke]

I have been a life-long KISS fan. I saw two shows in '96. Milwaukee and Madison. Fabulous. Paul could still sing and Peter and Ace were at the top of their game. For me though I thought they should have hung it in Y2K on top rather than making us watch them just get tired.

[@axlfruitypebbles]

KISS was Stanley, Simmons, Carr and Kulick. Everything else was a warm up or a fade out.

[@Riz2336]

Last shows, eh I’ll believe it when I see it. I doubt it man

[@gregdunn6040]

Ace was in Kiss a total of 14 years out of 50 so 36 years not in the band, Peter 13-14 years as well so I don't really think it matters at this point.

[@petersuskawicz8900]

what he said was well said, and the truth,they can't claim to be kiss still if its not the original 4 members.

[@masterid28]

Sad this is still being discussed. The band has been continuing longer without Peter and ace than they were with them. Move on.