Best Portable Job Site Table Saw - Head-2-Head

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A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz

A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz

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@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Ай бұрын
We just started testing 5 cordless saws - video will. E out in 3-4 weeks
@Stefan_Kawalec
@Stefan_Kawalec 5 жыл бұрын
"We're not a professional testing company" and carries out professional, comprehensive, unbiased and thorough tests of tools. It's a pleasure to watch your videos. I am a contractor and your test videos guided me couple of times while buying tools. Than you for that.
@Samoskiyaani
@Samoskiyaani 4 жыл бұрын
What saw did you end up buying?
@NiNjaTurtLe697
@NiNjaTurtLe697 4 жыл бұрын
@@Samoskiyaani I'd like to know too
@raimondspadaro8211
@raimondspadaro8211 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@Stevesbe
@Stevesbe 4 жыл бұрын
Dewalt
@rildain76
@rildain76 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously! Seemed way professional to me!
@richardselby1711
@richardselby1711 3 жыл бұрын
A new standard has been set for conducting a comprehensive review of tools used in the Trade. Not overly verbose, no horrible background music, great data sets, explanations made complete sense and it was all understandable. The video coverage was spot on. This is by far the best Tool review I've seen on KZbin
@nickmanc86
@nickmanc86 6 жыл бұрын
These are the kind of reviews that our industry needs. Amazing job and thank you!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 6 жыл бұрын
thanks man
@mhewett5193
@mhewett5193 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, comprehensive scientific reviews are few and far between on tools.
@noodler696
@noodler696 5 жыл бұрын
@@ConcordCarpenter I liked your passionate delivery of the info as well. Some guys put me to sleep here on YT.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
thanks guys! Please subscribe!! @@noodler696
@liamoboyle2065
@liamoboyle2065 5 жыл бұрын
A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz consider it done
@jimmypoe4707
@jimmypoe4707 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm in the market for a saw and I thought I knew what I wanted. This is making me think. Thanks.
@juryrigjohn9697
@juryrigjohn9697 3 жыл бұрын
You guys and project farm are both godsends to people like me.
@katandpapa
@katandpapa 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i needed! Im stuck at home with cancer and i want to do a little woodworking to keep from going crazy! I just didn't know which saw to get. I have a very limited budget, so this video really helped! Thank you! BE SAFE,GOD BLESS!🇺🇸🙏
@techrical
@techrical 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you're doing better Dave.
@kakablee
@kakablee 3 жыл бұрын
That's a spirit Dave! All the best man.
@diastoleny
@diastoleny 3 жыл бұрын
Stay 💪 !
@jeremystott6074
@jeremystott6074 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see how anyone can not like this review. That was a lot of work and very honest and thorough. Thanks guys!
@argeancomics3291
@argeancomics3291 4 жыл бұрын
Probably someone who bought a non acurate brand and became disapointed wirh the results.
@Parafinn1970
@Parafinn1970 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely the best KZbinr for unbiased tool reviews - top work
@meirdeaph
@meirdeaph Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know u could tune a saw! Wow I've got alot to learn an your videos super helpful place to start. Thanks a bunch
@JasonWjddphotography
@JasonWjddphotography 2 жыл бұрын
YES! Now I just have y et to really get busy w/ my Hitachi... I havne't had to rip much for large pieces, and mostly h ave been doing crosscuts on my old radial arm. But new garage means new cabinets! Soon to use it more.
@theHAL9000
@theHAL9000 3 жыл бұрын
Really the gold standard for tool tests and reviews.
@tonyborzumato8510
@tonyborzumato8510 3 жыл бұрын
As a technician with over 40 years of testing experience, I am VERY impressed with the testing done in the video. Great job, guys. Highly informative and helpful. Thanks.
@HarmonicGrunt
@HarmonicGrunt 2 жыл бұрын
no one cares!
@lambo25
@lambo25 Жыл бұрын
Great job Rob, Reviews like these are what the industry needs. I ended up buying the DEWALT DWE7491RS
@actionjksn
@actionjksn 2 жыл бұрын
I'm using a DeWalt DW-744 that is at least 20 years old and has had a very hard life. I've replaced the front motor bearing, lubed the rear bearing with a correct polyurea based grease.(never use Molly grease for this!) Cleaned and polished the commutator and installed new brushes. Those things and calibration are all I have done to this saw. I know the days are numbered on this saw but I'm going to try to keep it going as long as I can. So far it is still accurate. Then again parts availability for this saw are still excellent so who knows how long I can keep it going. Something to bear in mind while looking at all these results is that it is based on how good the factory calibration is as far as the accuracy. If you are the type of guy who accurizes your saw then you should take that into consideration while looking at these results. If you are going to calibrate your new saw then I think the most important things to consider would be run out and tabletop flatness. Those are the two things that you probably are not going to be able to correct. It would be nice to find a way to test how well they maintain their calibration after you perform that step. I'm not sure how you would do that. Anyway this is the best testing methodology I've seen on saws, and definitely the most thorough. I would like to see them do more tests on power tools. I am now subscribed.
@Well_Earned_Siesta
@Well_Earned_Siesta 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to me that you can see a video of this depth and quality for free on KZbin.... Thanks so much!
@EssensOrAccidens
@EssensOrAccidens 6 жыл бұрын
This borderline lunatic wonky obsessive thoroughness warms me to my toes. Once one begins measuring, why cease? SUBBED.
@SafariJack1
@SafariJack1 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Wiebe LOL!! I was thinking the same thing
@YknotLearnall
@YknotLearnall 4 жыл бұрын
First video by ToolBoxBuzz I've seen and my reaction is... Holy shit! Best review and tests I've ever seen on anything ever! And with explanations throughout! This is the kind of quality tests one expects from manufacturers. You guys should call the manufacturers and offer up random quality control checks and get paid for this... lol. If I were a manufacturer, I'd bring you in for every run. NIce job guys, real nice! And thanks!
@demigodnogood1595
@demigodnogood1595 3 жыл бұрын
This is the end point of so many discussions. So many people are bad mouthing some of these saws and some argue against of others and so on and so on. This video is the go to source when empty arguments heat up. Thanks for the good work.
@bazanderson8283
@bazanderson8283 2 жыл бұрын
4 years to late but this is one comprehensive test, respect, thanks and kudos 🙏
@brewsnoop
@brewsnoop 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are the GOLD STANDARD on tool reviews, hands down. Awesome work!
@chancecarlton8403
@chancecarlton8403 5 жыл бұрын
Amazingly well done. In 19 years on job sites I never once saw a saw adjusted when purchased. It was bought for the project, assembled and used. Spot on.
@topherdean1024
@topherdean1024 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I need my saw to be perfectly accurate especially the parallelism. I check it all frequently.
@mjac5044
@mjac5044 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are the Boss--never in my life seen such quality review. I imagine your work is par excellance'. Thank you
@theHAL9000
@theHAL9000 5 жыл бұрын
Have been using the Bosch for 3 years and very happy with it. Still, this would have been the video to watch before purchasing. Terrific comprehensive overview. Excellent!
@Cary_mac
@Cary_mac Жыл бұрын
This likely the best comparison with factual evidence. This is what they do in computer tech ologies and I enjoy that you took it to the Nth degree for folks to understand what they’re buying! Seriously appreciate your guys hard work. Thank you.
@TechieTard
@TechieTard 5 жыл бұрын
Man, what a comprehensive test! No more buying the marketing BS when you got the real deal done here! Thanks man!
@MsMrshanks
@MsMrshanks 6 жыл бұрын
Heaven's above I never appreciated how much I missed you guys till you were MIA for so long. It's depths of winter down under in Aussie. Great across the board review and very much appreciated. Well done and thank you long live TBB!!!
@stevefarris9857
@stevefarris9857 6 жыл бұрын
Craig Diss 6
@paulstoolbox
@paulstoolbox 5 жыл бұрын
Rob, you are extremely thorough with your testing! I tell people all the time to check your channel if they are on the fence with a new purchase of tools. Great job as usual buddy! Paul
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Ricalde appreciate the feedback and referral sir
@rodneysmith9177
@rodneysmith9177 2 жыл бұрын
I was suprised to see the SawStop rate last on table flatness even though it won for precision. I think I know what happened. The SawStop has a wing that detaches when you extend the fence. It is therefore not continuous with the main table top. It does not appear most of the others do and it is not reasonable to expect a non-monolithic design to be perfectly aligned. When I measured mine across the fixed portion of the of the table top it was about as dead flat as you can get. It cost me $1499 but I am really glad I got it. Howevever, I don't disagree with the results here, A saw that cost 3-4x as much should be a better quality build. What value we put on the safety feature is up to each of us. Great job on this review.
@mr.chartier9256
@mr.chartier9256 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best, and most thurough test of power tools, I have ever seen. I really liked that you considered ergonomics. Thank you.
@kidkoffee4799
@kidkoffee4799 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent job. This is the best table saw review on the net. I just bought the Skilsaw to replace a 20 year old little Delta Shopmaster that just wasn’t “cutting it” for me anymore. If you are concerned with accuracy (and you should be!), then you need to calibrate ANY new saw you buy. “Out of box” setup and QC is going to vary from saw to saw within any of these brands. This is why there are always 1 and 2 star reviews mixed in with even the most highly praised products. Saws that get serious use should be recalibrated periodically as well. That said, I fully understand the reasoning that a lot of people won’t ever do this, but to buy the Sawstop and assume it’s going to be dead-nuts like the one in this review is foolish. Even if their quality control is better (and for the price, it should be!), there will still be variances. So....for my purposes, I took price AND precision accuracy out of the equation, and the Skilsaw was the winner. It has the best performance, the beefiest motor/brushes, the awesome torque of the worm drive, and clearly the best portable stand. Just throwing my reasoning out there to give a different perspective to anyone else who may be beating themselves up like I was trying to decide. I am actually a fan of Hitachi and really wanted to buy that saw for the price, but there are a TON of reviews/complaints out about the soft start failing and I just couldn’t do it. In my opinion, buy the Skilsaw, calibrate it, and own the best performing saw in this group.
@brianharrigan8821
@brianharrigan8821 5 жыл бұрын
Well said ! And, it is a fact now that all our old names in tools are mostly made offshore. Japanese products and German were always my close second choice in equipment , though with a new Skilsaw Mag 10" wormdrive I find it performing as expected to all my other Skilsaws , and the newish wormdrive tablesaw is surprisingly good !!
@teachbearcop
@teachbearcop 6 жыл бұрын
WOW, that was in depth! Thank you. I didn't even know there was that much information to consider when choosing a table saw. Very helpful!
@kentwalker1969
@kentwalker1969 Жыл бұрын
very interesting, as usual with these things it comes down to what are you using it for, a good example here is this, if you were getting one as a gift thus money is not an issue, if you were going to use it in your lttle single garage shop and not moving i around like you might build it into your work bench then ergonomics is not that big a deal,so if you look solely at accuracy and perfromance which as the two main things, it totally changes the outcome with the sawstop moving up the top, again assuming you took money and ergonomics out.
@simondummermuth1817
@simondummermuth1817 3 жыл бұрын
Ya know I've been looking for almost a year now for a GOOD REVIEW of EVERY PORTABLE TABLE SAW to determine which would be the best and finally came across this video! THANK YALL SO MUCH for taking the time and effort to put this video together breaking down EVERYTHING with the outa box use! Much appreciated!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 3 жыл бұрын
Very welcome!
@shadowbanned5164
@shadowbanned5164 Ай бұрын
I like the last bit where he took price out of the equation and gave new rankings without it..Seems like the Dewalt is the best way to go.
@thehandyhomeowner9781
@thehandyhomeowner9781 Жыл бұрын
Now in 2022 i know why the skilsaw price has gone up to match a couple of the other brands. Great video.
@21thTek
@21thTek 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Bob, here are the decrease speed under load test results according to your beautiful graphics in percentage: 1st Skilsaw -16.2% 2nd Sawstop -18.55% 3rd Ridgid -20.46% 4th Dewalt -22% 5th Makita -23% 6th Bosch -28.76% 7th Delta -31.03% 8th Hitachi -32.79% . My analisis : Skilsaw has the best torque due to its worm system and the new skilsaw tablesaw has rack and pinion system for the fence so you get a supersaw if you are willing to pay the difference, and my pick here is the Dewalt ( value+quality+precision+technlogy/price) which has great torque with conventional motor drive technology, Sawstop is overvaluated, and Hitachi motor looks pretty unfitted---- if you want more watch this enjoyable video several times and make your own conclusions, hello everyone !
@mictaylor9531
@mictaylor9531 2 жыл бұрын
The diligence of this review and assessment is reassuring beyond any recommendation I could have asked for! Thanks so much for taking the time, filming your process and sharing. Awesome stuff
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
thx for commenting
@markjarman7819
@markjarman7819 4 жыл бұрын
I have made my mind up on many tools due to your reviews. Up to now I haven’t got any tools that don’t work. Keep it up guys totally brilliant
@will976
@will976 9 ай бұрын
Would you be kind enough to do an updated review as of 2023-2024 for these saws? I new to woodworking and I need a saw very soon. Thanks for the great reviews as well
@williemartin9872
@williemartin9872 4 жыл бұрын
No one has been as detailed in a review on anything. This was AWESOME!
@geertbosch2778
@geertbosch2778 4 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic review. Even though it came out low in your end score, it made clear that when I buy a table saw, the Sawstop would be the one for me with best out-of-box accuracy and best safety features. It is a testament to the quality of your review, that I can confidently pick a different winner for me, based on my main requirements (accuracy & safety). Thanks again.
@ReverendTed
@ReverendTed 4 жыл бұрын
That surprises me, Geert! I really thought the Bosch had your name on it.
@joshscott3184
@joshscott3184 2 жыл бұрын
Sawstop is for high end finish works hands down not even close ..all the other saw you have are junk.
@kenswitzer4133
@kenswitzer4133 4 жыл бұрын
These test are not in an enclosed lab. They are in real time use the best comparison possible. Straight out of the box usage. 👍🤙😃
@jctai100
@jctai100 6 жыл бұрын
You can be honest, the Ryobi blew everyone out of the water. Lol, always amazed by the thoroughness and methodology you present. Brings me back to my university lab days. Keep it up!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 4 жыл бұрын
haha no sorry ;)
@dorcasowens1210
@dorcasowens1210 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. My craftsman 10 inch table saw 60 years old finally quit. All of this data will give me tremendous help in deciding what to buy.
@chumpowie
@chumpowie 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks gentlemen. We need the clarity and integrity you show now more than ever. You should be the gold standard of all reviews.
@b1shbashbosh
@b1shbashbosh 4 жыл бұрын
Damn. Might be the most comprehensive comparison reviews I’ve seen on KZbin.
@TheSkiggly
@TheSkiggly 5 жыл бұрын
Intense and well thought out testing procedures. Hats off to all the crew members. It does help to have data like this in order to make a better educated decision prior to purchase. Had I watched this prior to my purchase, I would have purchased differently. The one I bought is now dead from melted bearings and it's cheaper to replace than rebuild. Sad thing - just 3 weeks out of warranty.
@TheMuskokaman
@TheMuskokaman 6 жыл бұрын
As a contractor I've had the Rigid since they came on the market around 15 years ago. Still got it & use it almost every day. As I recall they were the first to offer a folding stand with wheels. Been lovin' it ever since.
@marshallmurrell4583
@marshallmurrell4583 6 жыл бұрын
I think Delta has improved on the folding stand with wheels. Basically gravity operated. Very easy to set up and take down. Similar, I think, to the Bosch stand.
@DD-tn3oe
@DD-tn3oe 6 жыл бұрын
Muskoka Man Rigid saw is a straight plastic piece of junk Im a real contractor
@ottokriete1153
@ottokriete1153 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Butler...... how long have you owned your Rigid table saw?
@jamesrogers4674
@jamesrogers4674 6 жыл бұрын
Been using a lightweight no name I got for free for 6 or 7 years. Got a light switch and bypassed the gfci. I have to check the fence squareness every time its moved. Does the job "almost" every time.
@DesignsElement
@DesignsElement 6 жыл бұрын
Same here, I got one when they first came out and I remember it being one of the only ones with a full and easy to use stand. Its not as accurate as it was when I first bought it but nothing has broken on it yet after all this time. That's loading it into a van or truck by myself for most of its life, the wheels should of broken off by now. I also have the first gen of the mitre saw stand, its heavy but the saw has been accurate all its life, the stand itself has only had the tighteners break off for the wing rollers which is something you can fix yourself. I recently bought a new one hand sawsall from ridgid and the quality as far as im concerned has gone down hill. The cord is cheap and it just doesn't feel like the older model it replaced. Maybe that extends into the other tools these days I don't know.
@raphaelsanchez4797
@raphaelsanchez4797 3 жыл бұрын
I came across your channel when I searched for the best table saw. I never heard of you before. After watching this video, I subscribed. I never did that before. Usually, I have to watch three or four videos before I commit to subscribing, but you were so comprehensive, careful, and professional that I had no choice but to subscribe. And of course I gave you a thumbs up -- I’d give you ten thumbs up if I could. Thank you. You saved me lots of money, time, and frustration.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 3 жыл бұрын
thank you and welcome
@rikityrik
@rikityrik Жыл бұрын
Just watched this for the second or third time. Last time I watched a couple years ago just before I purchased the Skilsaw. I initially purchased the Rigid (not this model their newer one) I was incredibly disappointed in it so returned. I'd been wanting the Bosch for year's but your comparison swayed me. The Skil is working out. So just want to thank all you guys who put the time and effort in to get this done. No telling how many people y'all have helped with your content. It's appreciated!!
@williamarrowsmiith8380
@williamarrowsmiith8380 4 жыл бұрын
Rob... simply outstanding work with the rigorous testing on these saws! Shout out to you and the entire crew for the very valuable information the testing provides to us DIYers of the world. Your site continues to be my "go to" for information on tools prior to making a purchase. As a result of your test results, I am steadily amassing a collection of tools which so far include Makita and DEWALT.
@frenchyroastify
@frenchyroastify 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a pro finisher and have had the Hitachi for a few years now. Great saw. He didn't mention that it has an electric brake and a safety switch if power dies, and then it gets re-energized the saw won't suddenly turn on without a reset. I modded my saw a bit with making a phenolic plate and longer out feed support. My table flatness is not very good so I've had to mill it in the centre. It also cuts to 35 inches. Pro tip: use a Bostik surface spray on your saw parts for like new performance.
@GianniStorti
@GianniStorti Жыл бұрын
Hello, would you still recommend the hitachi table saw after years of use? I like wood working as an hobby and I'd like to take it for it's quality/price value. Regards from EU!
@frenchyroastify
@frenchyroastify Жыл бұрын
@@GianniStorti If it's a good price then yes. There are new saws now that seem quite good like the revamped Bosch with a rack and pinion and the Skil table saw with a geared fence as well. To be honest, you can't go too wrong with what's out there now. Just stay away from the old Bosch with the crappy steel clip on the fence. It digs in to the aluminum rail eventually. I still have my Hitachi today and it work great.
@GianniStorti
@GianniStorti Жыл бұрын
@@frenchyroastify Thank you very much! For the Bosch with rack'n pinion, do you mean the battery powered one? I didn't know about this one before you mentioned it. If so, I'd pref to stick with a wired table saw for now. Regarding the skilsaw, unfortunately it seems it's not aviable here in EU. I narrowed my coiches around 3 tables: dewalt7485 (~500€), hitachi (~600€), dw7492 (~750€) - ye, prices are quite high now.. no steal-deals 😅 My budget would be around 500€, that's why I'd go for Hitachi (plus it comes with stand+wheels included)
@frenchyroastify
@frenchyroastify Жыл бұрын
@@GianniStorti There's a new Bosch saw on the way. You will be just fine with the Hitachi saw. It's quite powerful and it cuts up to 35 inches (mm?). The extended back rest is nice touch. I screwed a piece of wood on to it so that it will support a longer plywood out feed. I also cut the bottom of the riving knife so that it can be slid out when in need to as when raising the blade onto my clamped work piece.
@GianniStorti
@GianniStorti Жыл бұрын
@@frenchyroastify Thank you again for your feedback, I'll keep in mind the mod you mentioned for the riving knife
@markburleson3283
@markburleson3283 4 жыл бұрын
Best comparison video I have ever seen. Great job to the whole team. Having worked for Hitachi and doing calibration on tools and testers I can appreciate the work that went in to this video. I have been a wood worker in the past but not so much recently. Now that I am retired it is time to get back in to it and start making stuff again. My son is way ahead of me in wood working so he will be my mentor but your channel is going to be my second go to for advice. Thank you.
@fZionists78
@fZionists78 4 ай бұрын
The integrity of this test is impressive. A rare degree of integrity. While I thought too many points were awarded in regards to price, I’m not the one comparing and using them. I don’t know how this quality testing was funded, but whoever over saw it should be proud of themselves. Integrity like this is rarely rewarded. Unfortunate FLEX and Milwaukee couldn’t be included. But that’s irrelevant. Very impressive demonstration, whoever is responsible.
@nikdagr33k
@nikdagr33k Жыл бұрын
It's already been said plenty of times, but I've still got to say it- wow guys impressively thorough and intelligent testing!
@BigSteelThrill
@BigSteelThrill Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@FinishCarpentryTV
@FinishCarpentryTV 6 жыл бұрын
What a great review. Thanks for taking so much time to do it!
@joeking1803
@joeking1803 3 жыл бұрын
Ppp
@raysh3845
@raysh3845 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching this video for the first time. You and your team are fantastic in putting this all together and explaining the details of each table saw. This would keep the manufacturers on their toes constantly and improving the quality. I am looking forward to more of your great videos. Thanks again Team.
@shadowofchaos222
@shadowofchaos222 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you soooo much for all that you guys put into these reviews. I have yet to find another group that goes into as much Depth, time and research to give as much information as you do. Thank you again. You have made it much easier to find the tool that I would need on the job.
@WrinkleRelease
@WrinkleRelease 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the explanation of the testing metrics (especially the metrics you decided to not include). This was a very thorough review that felt sincere, not done for sponsorships, or money in mind. Thanks.
@hawgdawg556
@hawgdawg556 4 жыл бұрын
My Ridgid has withstood the test of time. It has taken abuse out in the field, being loaded in and out of the back of my truck, more than it should have been, but it has lasted 15 years. I used it in the field for ten of those 15 years. And, while I don't use it as much as I used to, I can still fire that bad boy up and get some good work done. This saw has outlived even my own expectations. Thank you, Ridgid.
@monstermushroomcloud
@monstermushroomcloud 5 жыл бұрын
You guys scrutinized the hell out of these tools and I appreciate that. Thank you.
@TheRobodoc130
@TheRobodoc130 5 жыл бұрын
This is the absolute best review of anything I’ve ever seen on KZbin. Wow very professional.
@kowen8121
@kowen8121 6 жыл бұрын
An EXCELLENT detailed and thoughtful review... However, I have now been through TWO Hitachi C10RJ saws based on your review and personal experience with several Hitachi Miter Saws. The first CR10RJ didn't last a month until the soft start feature would not allow the motor to start. Lowes exchanged it with no issue with another new saw that lasted only a WEEK with the same problem. The motors would not restart after shutting down leaving me stranded in the middle of a job. Hitachi has burned the last bridge with me. I am personally convinced the CR10RJ has a serious design flaw. I went back to Lowes and am now working with the Dewalt DWE7491RS. So far...it has worked well. Hitachi clearly has a reliability issue with their soft start switches. I will be anxious to hear your long-term assessment of all the saws tested....especially the Hitachi. If a saw cannot be reliable...all the best features in the world are of no value. That, in reality, is the most important measurement standard.
@jamesharding3528
@jamesharding3528 3 жыл бұрын
Really well done and you may not be a professional testing organization, but you are more thorough than 90% of the people who buy these machines!
@Kriterian
@Kriterian 4 жыл бұрын
Good lord, why can't all reviews be this concise and detailed? Thanks, this was exactly what I was looking for.
@shanescholtz3686
@shanescholtz3686 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I'm lost as to why there aren't more subscribers to this channel. Bad ass!!!!!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 6 жыл бұрын
Shane Scholtz I know brother what should I be doing to get more? Years ago a lot of sites could buy them but I never wanted to do that, we are really big on reputation and integrity
@shanescholtz3686
@shanescholtz3686 6 жыл бұрын
Wish I knew. Sadly I don't know much about YT. Possibly some sort of marketing firm exists that can point you in the right direction. You guys are so in depth and compressive. Just really strange why your not at 1M. Is a marketing thing for sure. For what's it's worth my kids and I appreciate all you do. You guys are a household name in this house!!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 6 жыл бұрын
Shane Scholtz It could be the name of the channel it could be a lot of SEO stuff, but I really do think it comes down to loyalty, people are not loyal like they used to be years ago. They come to the channel get what they want to MoveOn as opposed to subscribe and hit the like button etc.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 6 жыл бұрын
Have you see our 3 web sites?
@prepperjonpnw6482
@prepperjonpnw6482 5 жыл бұрын
Try checking into advertising on multiple platforms such as KZbin and Facebook. Do you have an Instagram account? Twitter? I’m fairly new to your channel and websites but I’m hooked! I subscribed and hit like on every video I’ve watched as well as shared your videos with absolutely everyone I could think of lol. I think I even shared them with my dentist and attorney lol
@Steelcrafted
@Steelcrafted 6 жыл бұрын
Damn you guys pulled out all the scientific stops on this one!! Color me impressed!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 6 жыл бұрын
Nathan Hamler haha thanks
@gordonbobby1
@gordonbobby1 6 жыл бұрын
Every tool manufacturer should watch your videos. Great channel.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 6 жыл бұрын
thx - Im thinking the ones in this video do
@CSLFiero
@CSLFiero 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible review. People may debate how the items are weighted, but there is no debating the comprehensive method of data collection. Huge service done here. Thanks so much, can't believe this is free info
@jimserhant7741
@jimserhant7741 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting to post this comment. I bought the Bosch 4100XC-10 with gravity stand about 4 month ago and I absolutely love it. Never had any issues with bogging down due to the slower RPM, no matter what species of wood would be going through the blade. It was straight, true and perfectly configured right out of the box. Even though it didn’t fare well in your head 2 head, your reviews helped me tremendously in deciding to go with the Bosch. I know that doesn’t make any sense, but it truly did.
@loumonte658
@loumonte658 Жыл бұрын
The lower rpm Is a huge plus. Less vibrations.
@jimserhant7741
@jimserhant7741 Жыл бұрын
@@loumonte658 I recently made a 25x15 x2” cutting board for a Christmas gift consisting of curly hard maple, Padauk & walnut with zero issues cutting any of the wood. I absolutely love my Bosch 4100XC-10.
@nickahrens5869
@nickahrens5869 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my dewalt portable table saw for 3 years now. Still running like a top and I use it a lot (I’m a general contractor and do all my own rough and finish carpentry). The one feature that I love the most is that fence dial. All table saws should have this!
@davidjacobs8558
@davidjacobs8558 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Makita table saw, and the fence is weak. It doesn't stay parallel to the blade, and it moves if pressure is applied to it. I bought it because it is supposed to have more power than other makers, but I regret not buying a dewalt.
@doughunt9074
@doughunt9074 5 жыл бұрын
My Dewalt is sweet. Highly recommend it!
@amjohnson86
@amjohnson86 5 жыл бұрын
What exact model do you use?
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
Doug Hunt its all in article the link is in description
@alexgrimes1940
@alexgrimes1940 3 жыл бұрын
AWESOME video. You guys did awesome. Any chance we could get an updated version for 2021? You guys totally changed my mind. I was going with RIDGID before I watched this video. Luck for me, I was at Home Depot yesterday and they were sold out. Otherwise I would have already bought it. Now, I'm sold on Dewalt.
@FeroxWJB
@FeroxWJB 5 жыл бұрын
I can appreciate the in-depth review that you guys did. Because of this review, I decided to buy the Hitachi. I will say that I was hoping you would do a standard number of cuts and compare them after the cuts to see how well they retained their trueness. I imagine for the people that really rely on the minute differences in tolerance out of the box, they also would also be fairly interested in how well their tolerances hold up after about 5-10 hours of use. Great information that you've done so far, and I hope to see something in the future with the same saws.
@yupdup9643
@yupdup9643 2 жыл бұрын
4 years later, these are still about double the price in Europe.. 😵‍💫 great videos guys!!!
@hunterreed1010
@hunterreed1010 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly just can't get over how much work went into this! THANK YOU!
@davidcarr3337
@davidcarr3337 4 жыл бұрын
I have had my skilsaw for a few years. I love it. I’m pleasantly surprised by how it stacked up against all the other saws, and how it compared and beat out, a $1200 saw.
@jerrymiller7556
@jerrymiller7556 4 жыл бұрын
That was an excellent review, thank you! Years ago I bought a cheaper Dewalt contractors saw that didn’t have the t-slot mitre gage slots. That saw is very dangerous without t-slots if your using a mitre gage even with an after market side gripping gage. The saw is still out there in big box stores and I’m surprised Dewalt hasn’t had numerous complaints. In my opinion that particular saw is a real liability! Always buy a table saw with t-slots not straight sided slots. Just my opinion, Be Safe!
@hj8607
@hj8607 6 жыл бұрын
Great . One thing that I noticed that pushed me towards the Hitachi (so close otherwise to the Dewalt) was that the stand legs jet out from the front much more on the Dewalt to the point of being a hazard . (store clerk admitted to having tripped over them ). Stability of Hitachi was every bit as good yet safer . Blade brake on Hitachi another tie breaker as was the 2+ " s Hitachi's wider table and kitchen- base -cabinet -frame height rip width of 35 ". (dewalt max at 32.5") Circuit break ( no restart after outage ) also the best surge protection is built into Hitachi. Thanx again for great presentation .
@oje101
@oje101 5 жыл бұрын
I like the Hitachi also.. but can't find it anywhere in Toronto Canada..
@gatekeeper65
@gatekeeper65 5 жыл бұрын
@@oje101 Try contacting Hitachi Canada and ask them who carries it or can get it for you.
@bruce5834
@bruce5834 5 жыл бұрын
I was fixed on getting the Dewalt this week but I can get the Hitachi $162 cheaper and I now feel like it's a good purchase.
@topherdean1024
@topherdean1024 4 жыл бұрын
I have the old style stand for my Dewalt. I put wheels on it. I don't understand why all the saws except for Hitachi have these giant bars that stick way out. If we all had shops like the New Yankee Workshop, well that would be great, but space is a premium in my shop and having these shin smashers is a real stupid design.
@ReverendTed
@ReverendTed 4 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I ended up going for the DeWalt is that the stand seemed to be very sturdy compared to some of the other options. (At least, in the condition they were assembled at the big-box-store.) That wide footprint might be one factor in that, so it could be a double-edged sword. If you have a small workspace or will actually use it on a jobsite where people are walking past, then they could be a liability.
@bobsnow1996
@bobsnow1996 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a used Ridgid R4510 and went over it from top to bottom to get it “dead-on balls accurate” using 5 cut method, using a Precision Dial Indicator etc... your video is great and I think for the most part people fall in love with their table saws until they see another New Table Saw and question their own. Kind of like a new car... the new car smell similar to the New saw smell except for the saw dust :) Seriously... this was a great video I learned a lot and not all saws are equal for a lot of reasons and especially just out of the box and you have made everyone aware "You have to tweak a new saw no matter what." I really enjoyed this five stars *****
@davecollier8054
@davecollier8054 4 жыл бұрын
For ppl who aren't professional testers, you do an incredible job with the scientific method of your tests. God bless!
@drew5334
@drew5334 4 жыл бұрын
Your attention to detail here is beautiful! For someone like myself that wants hard data on all of these factors before making a sizeable investment in a long-term tool, it's super helpful, your hard work is much appreciated it! Knowing what aspects are basically the same across the board (dust collection for example) vs those that varied widely (amp draw for example) was super helpful info that I would have learned in no other way unless I watched this video. I also learned a lot about the possible issues with table saws from your video!
@danielsmith-gw7lz
@danielsmith-gw7lz 6 жыл бұрын
Almost just bought the hitachi. But i researched & found enough reviews of actual people who did & the motors died within a few months. So, I bought a DWE7491RS. Great review guys!!
@sankarkrishnan7425
@sankarkrishnan7425 6 жыл бұрын
I noticed alot of complaints online from hitachi owners showing photos of a broken plastic piece on the adjustment knobs or crucial compinents breaking off.
@scraplifetrashtocash4551
@scraplifetrashtocash4551 6 жыл бұрын
Had mine a yr and is perfect. I think a lot of breaks are from user abuse. My saw actually was accurate out the Box too. Hitachi has been really good so far for me.
@MrPhins
@MrPhins 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, all the issues with the soft start sensor failing after only a few months and the difficulty with warranty work scared me off.
@kmarshall131
@kmarshall131 6 жыл бұрын
also no blade/miter slot adjustments on the hitachi. only a blade/riving knife adjustment. I called hitachi and they suggested i send it in for service...:-/ sold the saw instead.
@ellismedavoy7314
@ellismedavoy7314 6 жыл бұрын
I bought the Hitachi for my nephew and he had the start sensor on the motor fail after only a few short uses. I have the same saw and have only used it a few times. Still no issues, but holding my breath.
@justgriff1295
@justgriff1295 5 жыл бұрын
Please keep these videos coming! You guys give me all the info I want for choosing tools, especially the precision tests.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
Just Griff thanks - new vid publishes tonight
@TBizzell68
@TBizzell68 4 жыл бұрын
I've had a Bosch for a long time and have used the heck out of it, I trued it when I bought it and it has held true. Every time I use it I think to myself if she gives up I can't be upset because it has well outlasted my expectations. Thanks for all the work on this test, WOW!
@_ErIc1976
@_ErIc1976 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great . I’m a novice wood worker as I get older I am doing more and getting more tools ect. Your channel has helped me with tools 100%. Thank you 🙏
@jetenginethrust863
@jetenginethrust863 6 жыл бұрын
Good review and very informative. Thank you. IMHO DeWalt is the clear overall winner. You get what you pay for. Hopefully the CEO's and engineers from DeWalt & these other companies are watching this and step up their game.
@bellyache4860
@bellyache4860 5 жыл бұрын
Proud to be a new englander. These are my peeps. Doing it right!
@kcuhc84
@kcuhc84 4 жыл бұрын
I have used the Bosch daily for the last 20 years. I notice that the design has changed over that time having looked at the current design in Home depot. I bought the Bosch because it had the best,most accurate, fence system at the time.
@DumbfoundedMadman
@DumbfoundedMadman 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic comprehensive comparison. I really respect the fact you made a point to mention that regardless of the results, they're all good saws.
@robertproctor5425
@robertproctor5425 Жыл бұрын
Very well done comparison. I wish I had watched this when it had come out. I used a Rigid for years, and yes, it needed much tuning out of the box, but it lasted me for over a decade. I am retired now and just bought a Sawstop for the safety reasons as I shake a bit. It is $400 more than it cost when you made this video, but I felt it still was a good choice given the accuracy and safety features. Again, great video. Thanks.
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 4 жыл бұрын
Only just started watching but so far saw stop seems to be doing fairly well. If you have the money it seems like a good tool even if you don't factor in the safety technology. Very good job with your testing, it looks like you did a great job designing your tests.
@LemonySnicket-EUC
@LemonySnicket-EUC 4 жыл бұрын
Great review and thanks for all of the effort here.Tons of useful info. However, I bought the Bosch over four years ago and I'd be willing to compare actual cuts in wood with any saw in this bunch and I'm pretty sure that's where the focus should be. A focus on actual production. What was totally left out of this review was the actual examples of accuracy delivered in several cuts of various types and sizes of wood. Don't get me wrong but my tape measure doesn't measure in thousandths and thousandths of an inch in woodworking on a job site is a laughing matter in my opinion. 32nds of an inch is plenty good.
@a.randolph8112
@a.randolph8112 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a women who built my own small home. I purchased all Hitachi power tools because of durability and affordability. I built my home from ground up with them. They never disappointed and are still going strong.
@shadowbanned58
@shadowbanned58 3 жыл бұрын
Help me understand, are metabo, hitachi & hikoki all the same thing? Just different region branding?
@davidwicksmusic
@davidwicksmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowbanned58 I believe they are. Hikoki is here in Australia and I believe that Metabo is the US version/branding for the same thing. Not sure where Hitachi fits in but from what I've read, all 3 brands are pretty much the same
@shadowbanned58
@shadowbanned58 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidwicksmusic Thx! I hear their portable table saw is the best!😉
@davidwicksmusic
@davidwicksmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowbanned58 so have I! I have a Bosch Jobsite saw and whilst it is ok, the features on the Hikoki one are a mile ahead. I'm considering one of them over a large cabinet saw to save some money as the features on it are similar to a cabinet saw. Especially that rip capacity
@sanelemazibuko1716
@sanelemazibuko1716 Жыл бұрын
This video must be used for science students on how to carry an investigation comparing products/samples etc. Its perfect and very descriptive and detailed.
@pablomax3045
@pablomax3045 4 жыл бұрын
Based on the work you did here, I went with the dewalt and I have not regretted it.
@TjopStick
@TjopStick 5 жыл бұрын
I have been working with the DeWalt table saw from someone else, and i really love it. Easy setup and easy handle. However im a Makita guy, and take without a doubt the Makita.
@laser31415
@laser31415 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this video. A review that was a review and not just an unboxing.
@JohnSmith-qv3db
@JohnSmith-qv3db 5 жыл бұрын
Exceptional video. Quality throughout, great presentation, unbiased and informative. I'm currently looking to replace my table saw and although some of these models are unavailable in the UK after this review my first choice (dewalt DW745) has been 're affirmed. Many thanks.
@TheBebow53
@TheBebow53 4 жыл бұрын
Being a 35 year machinist I found your testing protocol spot on! Some of the terminology was a bit suspect such as when you said five ten thousandths but that would be .050 but 5 tenths of a thousandths would be .0005 a half thousandths. Hey thats splitting hairs, huh! Well done!
@oldmanpatriot1490
@oldmanpatriot1490 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I have seen on table saws.. BY FAR....... I am looking to buy my first one and I have watched what seems to be hundreds of videos.. Most of which just seems to be either promotion or someone showing off their new $3500 toy..... Thank you soooo much for keeping this real and for the working man... I now know what I am looking at when I see these in the store and will make an educated buy accordingly..
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