Across The Spider-Verse has ONE Problem!

I thought about cutting this review in half and waiting a year to release the rest of it.
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[@Rose-rq4xg]

The ending was quite jarring, and did seem a little out of place. Quite funny actually, the movie ended so abruptly that someone in the row behind me in the theatre yelled “WHAT?!” Really loudly, and everyone had a bit of giggle

[@joecoz26]

That might have been me because I did the exact same thing. But I doubt it was me behind you. I was also shouting no way and you got to be kidding me.

[@NighttimeNubbs]

Was also a buzzkill finding out there was no after credits like first film T_T

[@leafbranchthewarriorcat5869]

My mom did that

[@supermarionoobs2639]

The fact that the only complaint about the movie is that it ends really shows how incredible it is.

[@GladwinAbel]

I actually really love the movie in fact it’s my favorite movie. The ending with miles running away but ending up in his worst nightmare with his dad dying and a world where he was not Spider-Man.

[@kennyalvarez3762]

@@GladwinAbel it's basically a world with no spiderman at all, the spider that was supposed to turn peter (or anyone else) into spiderman from that universe was teleport to miles' universe and bit him instead and he killed it right away so even if the spider was taken back to its original universe by magic in the first movie it can't do anything as it's dead.

[@stevenmark4407]

It ending isn’t the issue it’s how it ended it felt abrupt. As if there was supposed to be a few more scenes but they cut it for time.

[@NerdMiGerd]

From what I've been told they were originally going to do just one sequel film, but found the plot they had for it really snowballed out in scope until it was wayyyyy too big to do as one movie. So they basically just took a four-hour movie and split it into two parts, and I think that explains the end result quite well. I went into this knowing it was not a complete story, so I wasn't too bothered by it. Just gotta wait and see if they stick the landing, which I have a strong feeling they will.

[@TheUltima_Werewolf]

Ah that makes a lot of sense

[@sandwichqueen]

It did feel like a TV cliff hanger, as if this season isn't done yet

[@corphish69]

Final space :(((((((

[@justjoshua5759]

@@corphish69 don’t remind me. That universe technically is ended and the eldritch entity won.

[@Corrector1]

Really, given the film's length, the fact that the antagonist switches halfway through the film and that it's a two-parter, I thought the whole thing felt like it was written more for streaming services than for the big screen.

[@sandwichqueen]

@@Corrector1 I could see the movie as a show though. It might need a bit of tweaking, but you could probably just split the movie and have a TV show.

[@imperialchalice]

Damn that was well said. That is exactly what it felt like 😂

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Honestly, I don't mind the cliff hanger. Story really is too big to contain to one movie and it really makes you feel more hyped for the sequel, kind of like how Back to the Future II ended.

[@Donovarkhallum]

The problem is how the cliffhanger was done

[@pokemonmanic3595]

They really should’ve kept the “Part One” in the title because it set up the expectation that this was a complete movie

[@-12Sided]

Me too. I thought it was a great spot to end. It was a movie that had more focus on Gwen and there was great development between her and her father. I have a feeling Beyond The Spiderverse will be more focused on Miles and maybe some new characters.

[@cloudshmof9563]

Its also all they could really do. While I don’t think people would be super against a 3 and a half to four hour movie. Its still a pg movie also aimed towards kids that needs to make money. I also feel the cliffhanger was amazing, giving us two seperate events to look foward to and focus on in Beyond the Spiderverse

[@Frazcaideadlol__]

if you have a problem with the cliff hanger. Everyone knew it was gonna be a two parter

[@robogirl]

I feel, despite what little time The Spot had, he left a HUGE impact. He was not once forgotten even with everything going on. He was bidding his time in the background and boy did he make an entrance when he showed up. When my sister, friend, and I were discussing the film over lunch we were gushing over The Spot from his design to what they did with him. You make an excellent point and I still love the movie. We're just gonna have to rewatch the movies again before it comes out cause I'm definitely buying it once it's released.

[@mistertagomago7974]

He was a hilight for me and made a bigger impact than the other films version of Kingpin.

[@3godzilla3]

I swear, I think I'm the ONLY person who has watched this movie that absolutely LOVED the cliffhanger. It was so perfectly executed and well done. Going into the movie I knew about it being a two part sequel, so maybe that's why it didn't make me hate it like others? It floored me so much and left me speechless, VERY few movies have made me feel that way. To me, it was the cherry on top, and I will die on that hill.

[@bootlegged1]

yh idk why everyone hates it. it's way better than most other cliffhangers on top of it being just a good ending overall

[@sansaraee]

This movie wouldn't have been as good if it didn't end on a cliffhanger. I didn't know it'd be a two parter, but I can absolutely tell why it was, so I'm okay with that.

[@ingloriousbaxter]

Same. I think the movie does have some pacing issues, especially in the last 30 minutes, but the cliffhanger is perfectly fine

[@bootlegged1]

@@ingloriousbaxter the only complaint I have is that the last 25 minutes are a bunch of speeches. gwen talking to her dad, miles talking to his mom, miles saying uncle aaron wants to be a good person, gwen confronted by miles parents. that's the most painful part of my rewatches so far

[@ShadwRavn]

Totally, how do you make such a big story without the cliffhanger. Can t make a 4-5 hour movie. Wouldn’t be worth it

[@MellowFelloh]

"Missing a little something" yeah an ending lol. It felt way worse not knowing this was a Part 1 (that was my experience) and getting the biggest blue balls ive felt with a movie. I feel like no plot thread was finished in this movie. Maybe the only one being with Gwen and her father but thats about it.

[@4everinthe4d]

You’re saying that’s about it because that WAS it lol

[@GladwinAbel]

To be fair they planned one big movie but had a lot of plot holes to fit in to one so they split the movie mid way through production and that cause animation to quit cause of that.

[@kingbash6466]

I'm glad that you made a video like this. As much as I enjoyed this movie, there are some issues that keeps it from being truly a masterpiece. It's still a great film, but I wish that other fans acknowledge the cons the film does has without jumping down their throat because they didn't praise every aspect of it. No piece of art is perfect, and that's okay.

[@HypeVoiceActing]

Honestly that's a problem I have with the first movie too. I really enjoyed it, but felt like it *did* have problems (like how a lot of the supporting cast felt kind of needless) but people refused to believe that. I really don't want this to be a reoccurring problem with the Spiderverse movies

[@shadowgamer4306]

Let people be excited, positive and happy for once. We don’t always have to criticize everything. With how much bad movies and TV shows we have been getting lately it is nice seeing people praise a movie.

[@kingbash6466]

@@shadowgamer4306 I'm not being negative. I'm just being reasonable. I never said that the movie isn't great or should be needlessly bashed because of a few gripes. I'm saying that it's fine that people will voice out elements they thought could be better in the movie. Loving something doesn't mean you have to ignore everything that you felt could be better. It's loving something in spite of it's small issues. Giving your critique isn't synonymous with being negative.

[@fr0ggykazu]

A masterpiece can still be flawed.

[@kbreezy1581]

This movie has already been criticized quite a bit for the ending tho. I don't know why yall are acting like you aren't allowed to have problems with the film. Just say what you wanna say about the movie without needing to make some larger commentary on the fanbase because it's never accurate.

[@icantthinkofanything798]

Im noticing everyone that didn’t know it was a part one was upset by the ending, and everyone who did is cool with it. Probably shows they should’ve kept the part one or at least advertised the fact there would be a cliffhanger better

[@cardbutton892]

I think the problem with where they left off is that as much as I LOVE the Gwen portions of the film, they didn't really do the best of job setting up what clearly was supposed to be the bookends of ATSV. Gwen's story. The film starts with Gwen's narration, including flashes of what's to come. And it ends with Gwen's narration, showing how far she's come. Gwen does generally have A full circle Arc, even if there is more to come with her. And while Miles is given absolutely stellar moments in his conflict with Miguel, its Gwen who ultimately gets the stinging line against Spider Society as a whole in "we're supposed to be the good guys". As well as potentially finding a way to change their canons safely with her dad. And while none of this bad in the slightest, it is a bit clunky. As its not the clearest that that is what this story was supposed to be. Gwen recounting the story as ATSV's Deuteragonist up to that point. As part of her own journey to "Find her place, and find her own Band". Its not that ATSV doesn't have A complete story arc. It in fact does. Its just Gwen's, not Miles'. But its not the clearest about that. Though, given the way the movie is created, if they really stick that landing with BTSV, it will enhance this already very good movie retroactively and smooth out its flaws.

[@kbreezy1581]

This is a great comment. A lot of people act like ATSV didn't have a complete story but it did. But if this many people were confused about it then maybe the movie could've made it clearer. I disagree with just stop's statement that the movie didn't climax .

[@GladwinAbel]

Yes i agree miles story is not wrapped up but I still love the ending having it end with Miles running home I’m glad that he run into his worst nightmare the version of himself that Miguel wants his father dead and he is not Spider-Man.

[@shagarumedic]

Imo both Miles and Gwen get stellar arcs here, I hope that their arcs in BTSV are about reconnecting and forging their own path together

[@nightmarefanatic1819]

Yeah, save for the very beginning and their interactions filtered through Miles coming to the Society, the only thing we had that hinted at Gwen and Miguel's relationship was how she spoke about him to Miles, despite the fact that that relationship affected both of them. You could tell how torn Gwen between her duty and her desire to reconnect with Miles because Miguel not only helped her out of a bad spot, but also gave her a sense of purpose and a place where she wasn't alone. One of the precious few moments of humanity in Miguel was him recognizing how alike he and Gwen were and taking pity on her (as well as being shown to find her to be a very competent fighter after the battle with Vulture.) And the way he reacted to her parting words showed him that she felt some connection with her. His first "We are" was very quiet and gave off the impression that she had rattled him and he was trying to convince HIMSELF that he was in the right. That's not something Miles would have been able to do since Miguel didn't have a relationship of any kind with Miles. But most of that is just speculation and gleaning information from what we're being TOLD, and very little of what we were actually shown. If I'm correct and the third movie has a Miguel focus then I hope we get more about his relationship with Gwen that explains more about why she felt loyal to him and didn't really view him as a bad dude until Miles came along, and why Miguel was shaken so much by Gwen's words.

[@Obsidianguy1987]

I'd give the movie a 9/10

[@COCO-tm3gp]

9.5/10 for me

[@Maxler5795]

Honestly, i love that stupid cliffhanger. No matter how wierd it was the memory of me and a bunch of other people (including 2 friends i somehow made in the theatre in less than 5 minutes) just going "WHAT?!" and staying through the entire credits as a mix of coping, processing what happened, and hoping there was a post credit scene. There wasnt. I then spent the next 20 minutes chatting with my new friends in front of the movie poster talking about how cool it all was

[@dorkydoodle3573]

I had this exact same issue with the movie too! A lot of it just felt like set-up/rising action lacking a clear conclusion and I left the theater feeling like a lot of plot points were unfinished and unresolved. Again, yeah it makes sense since this is just part one of a longer story, but especially because of those last 30 minutes or so it doesn’t feel like it can stand on its own as an independent project in the same way the original can. (That being said it was still amazing and blew me away and I can confidently say it’s my current fav movie of the year so far)

[@moonblaze1_95]

For a warning, this is major spoilers for the ending so don't read below Though the cliffhanger is making me excited for the sequel, I feel like a perfect ending would've been either A. Miles being sent home but the camera focusing on Earth 42 on the screen or B. Miguel entering Miles earth and then the post credit scene focusing on the send home device and it showing earth 42 or something, it in my opinion would make sense as a cliffhanger but also leave people on the edge of their seats. If you disagree then thats fair, I just feel like its less abrupt but still leaves room for Beyond the spiderverse

[@GladwinAbel]

Yes ended it sooner without building up all that anticipation would have been better. I don’t argue cause at the end it’s a incomplete movie on it’s own but having miles run into his worst nightmare the version is himself that Miguel wants his father dead and he’s not Spider-Man the next movie will no doubt elevate miles even more

[@CodfishsIdeaOutlet]

I’d honestly say the ending is an extremely reliable and truthful IOU. It just sorta goes “hey come back in nine months and we’ll blow your nuts off”

[@chumley04]

I think from first watch, ppl might not like the ending of ATSV. However, when you look at how the film ended, it completes the arc that the very film opened with: Gwens story. I think the film creators knew what they were doing to fulfil plot points whilst leaving things for us to get hyped for in BTSV

[@LexClone5]

In my opinion, I think they let the movie go on maybe 5 minutes too long. I feel if they had cut at the point to where he had just gotten 'home', and maybe still having the shot of Gwen assembling the crew, it would've left a bit more of the mystery of where he ended up while still having that kind of hopefulness that Empire Strikes Back and Back to the Future 2's cliffhangers had. But that's just my opinion of course.

[@DWN037]

I think it's a really bold choice to end it on such a sudden cliffhanger, and while I don't think it makes Across the Spider-Verse have a satisfying ending, I think it _will_ make Beyond the Spider-Verse start out that much stronger. It's not a weak ending because it's so sudden, it's a weak ending because it's _not_ the ending - you just only saw _half_ of the story. To make a long story short I want them to release a supercut of both movies that's 4 hours long and rivals James Cameron's Avatar

[@sorapokeball]

I left the theater thinking "wow, that was even better than the first one". They took everything that made Into the Spiderverse special and perfected it. The amount of love and care that was put into this movie was phenomenal.

[@BrandonWhatTheF]

I just finished Schaff's video on this man. This is like the Beyond the Spider-Verse to his Across the Spider-Verse.

[@kingkirby1394]

Same 😂

[@whotfduece08]

Right

[@an0rmalname179]

Same

[@briangruenewald7536]

Right

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[@Thenameless1]

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[@dominothealphaandomega5512]

@@Thenameless1 why not?

[@Thenameless1]

@@dominothealphaandomega5512 I'm not saying they shouldnt've posted it, I just wanted to know their motive.

[@agentkoopa6129]

Although I see your points, I still feel like across the spider verse was better then the first one. But I am curious on how you would have done the movie differently to fix those issues.

[@GladwinAbel]

Me too

[@KyrieKirigiri]

The issue is the film doesn't really have an ending, it just stops. The 'ending' didn't really give an indication about what's to come (for example the ending of Two Towers showing Mount Doom and the long journey the Hobbits still have to go). And considering the next film is only a year away, they really should have put a trailer for it at the end of the film. Instead, the film feels like watching a film on TV as a kid, and then your parents turn the TV off mid movie because you have to go to bed.

[@Pavlinka__]

Idk how movie production works and this is maybe more of a live action kinda thing, but I feel like even 1 year before release you wont have it edited well enough to make a trailer. They def could make a teaser tho

[@XinchoStellar]

I completely agree with your point. I loved Across to death, as soon as I finished it I immediately wanted to watch it over and over again. But by ending it on a cliffhanger means that if Beyond doesn't stick the landing Across will retroactively feel more incomplete, like a sour after taste. As I patiently wait for Beyond to come out this will be my biggest concern. But I have no reason to believe that Beyond won't be amazing, I'm sure that when I'll walk out of the cinema this will be my favourite trilogy of all time and I'll feel silly for even worrying in the first place.

[@MyWTFisgoinon]

I think another things is that Miles’ and the Spider Society’s objectives overlap, but they don’t realize that for some reason (at least more on the Spider Society’s part). Like they talk about the fact that they have this dimension hopping demon on the loose who was actively seeking a way to power up, he gets said power up and immediately ditches the scene. Miles doesn’t realize the true meaning of his premonition until he learns of the Canon events at which point he connects the events to the Spots’s threats. Then the SS society at the behest of Miguel hound Miles for trying to stop his dad’s death despite the fact that the SS trying to stop the Spot and Miles trying to save his dad are two sides of the same coin. Or am I overthinking this.

[@whitedogsblackcats]

Oh wow. I didn't even realize that!

[@Corrector1]

Good point. Perhaps they only realized the Spot's role in a canon event after they started pursuing him.

[@JEvans-wy9ln]

I love how everyone's main problem is that the movie didn't last longer 😂. Usually there are complaints that movies are too long but this is one of the few times people wanted more time

[@caseyrogers1772]

I avoided as many spoilers as I could before going to see the movie, I wanted to be genuinely surprised with every aspect of the movie without outside influence. That being said, I didn't know that it was a part 1 and ended on a cliff hanger. When it said to be continued, I screamed "NO" in the theater without thinking. I agree, it is only half a story and does not end at a natural stopping point. At least my outburst made some kind strangers giggle

[@FabledSorcerer]

The best way to describe what they did with this movie is looking back at Marvel with the movies Infinity War and End Game with their use of the thanos snap.

[@otakugamerx]

I felt exactly the same way when I finished watching the movie. I was like "that was it?" I felt The movie was incomplete because nothing really resolved. it felt more like an end of a episode of a show than a movie

[@crazydog1455]

I totaly agree, i was wondering what it was that felt so wrong/weird about the ending and its just that it wasnt one at all. It was a crazy and wonderful buildup but there was really not a good place to end.

[@Zordyn]

its that you cant talk about how much of a badass ohara is without someone going "b-but he's the bad guy you cant like a VILLAIN can you🤓"

[@houseofrandomgaming1525]

Honestly youve done a good job putting into words what i havent been able to since seeing the movie. Unfortunately i was also a bit tired when i saw it, so it was a bit messy to watch, and without a climax it left me pretty frustrated ngl, but at the end of the day its still a good time

[@slashermaster28]

Honestly, the minute I heard this was part 1 of the two-parter, this is exactly how I figured it would end. If anything, there were, like, at least three other instances prior to that moment where I thought it would end, and none of those were proper conclusions.

[@The.Holy.Father]

My only problem with the movie is that characters eem to only "glitch" when it's relevant to the plot. Can someone, please, explain to me why they glitch at extremely random intervals for example never when they're in combat but when miles is in earth 42 it's frequent and then later in earth 42 it just stops. Why?

[@The.Holy.Father]

Please explain

[@jorgehaswag7294]

I think it’s kinda the same feeling that dune had with the ending.

[@xerith42]

YESSS, someone finally put it into words!! I adore the first film, it's also my favorite movie of all time, and I was so hyped and so paranoid Across wouldn't live up. And while it did a ton of great things and has my favorite character in the spider-verse (Hobie my beloved), the ending left me on the edge of my seat. I thought they were at least going to go *somewhere* with the setup, even just an extra ten minutes to set up the next step, but it just... Ended. Looking forward to Beyond, but as it is, I think Across really suffers from unexpectedly cutting itself off in the way it did.

[@skyhighlander6447]

It makes sense why they split it into two but yeah, people who were saying everywhere that it wasn’t ‘half a movie’ kind of felt like they just wanted to heap more praise onto it since it truly does so much expertly, but there’s too many loose threads at the end of part 1 for it to feel truly satisfying. That’s fine as a part 1 but as an experience where I have to wait for the next part, it admittedly sucks. Once part 2 is out that problem will essentially be dealt with though for any future viewers.

[@shield2957]

that sequel next year news be hitting different now with all the leaks as to why itll probably be 3 years and not one (which if it means we get another insane and beautiful movie like this one I am totally fine with)

[@minglou2019]

A good analogy for the ending: imagine Infinity War but the movie ends when Thor appears on Earth with his ax

[@chumley04]

Man when BTSV drops, i BEG that they release a version of the film that begins with ATSV and then continues onto BTSV. They could even cut ATSV’s credits and edit scenes to truly make it one whole flowing story. Idc if they made it more expensive to watch, id pay up.

[@queendsheena1]

I think the ending was perfect for the movie. With a film dealing with the potential destruction of canon and timelines. Ending on an abrupt note was perfect.

[@teddyfurstman1997]

Love both Spiderverse movies.

[@Mushy_illustrates]

Dude took the words right out of my mouth. Loved this video, literally exactly how I felt in theaters

[@holty1314]

Well all agree Jessica didn’t need to be in the movie right and felt like she was forced in as she could so easily be removed and nothing would change.

[@nivensmctwispo]

I mean she served as a mentor figure for gwen and it’s not like she took away screen time from anyone else really. When she was on screen it was because someone else’s plot was being advanced. So removing her would also add nothing to the story, but you would lose a pretty interesting character in Miguel’s No.2

[@ninjdraw8305]

​@@nivensmctwispo Agreed

[@holty1314]

@@nivensmctwispo they should’ve made Miguel the mentor which would’ve propped him up as a threat to Miles by being the one who essentially stole Gwen from him. Yeah she undermines Miguel at the start when he’s being a badass by pausing the plot by explaining how much better she is whilst in dangering her unborn child! Now that is true but they literally made up their own character with reference on a comic book that was universally hated. Now back to what I was saying about how she was forced in. Her personality is bent by the plot, backing Gwen up when the plot demands Gwen right (before going to Indian Spider’s world) and vise versa (when Gwen is sent back at the end)

[@nivensmctwispo]

@@holty1314 Some interesting points, however I do disagree imo. I think that setting up a reason for Miles to dislike miguel by ‘taking away’ Gwen from him would only cheapen his rebuttal against Miguel and the spiderverse, because his reasoning behind why he’s going against Miguel isn’t just to save his family and prove that he can do both, but also becomes going against Miguel as revenge for Gwen, or atleast that’s how I could see people interpreting that relationship. Also, Miguel didn’t want Gwen in the team so Jessica was needed to get Jessica into the group. Alongside that, she doesn’t spend her whole time defending Gwen, as she only protects her once, when she wasn’t watching the spot. After miles gets out of the Spiderhub, Jessica actively tells Gwen that it’s up to Miguel now, she doesn’t try to protect her at all. But once again that is just my opinion and I’m sure there are ways to write the story without her in, but I don’t personally think enough is solved to warrant removing an interesting character and 2nd hand to Miguel from the movie

[@Laxhoop]

Most of my complaints come down to personal nitpicks that don’t really affect plot or characters, like I would have loved to see some PS1 and 2 Spider-Men with that video game joke, and Madam Web was sadly missing, however I do have one major complaint, that may or may not be valid, depending on what the next movie does. That being (SPOILERS): I really don’t think Miles should be able to find another way. If he finds another way, other than not altering the canon, then that will effectively undermine literally every other Spider-Man ever. It will put Miles on a pedestal. The character is already the center of enough debate, in regards to how he may or may not step on the toes of the legacy of Peter Parker, but to have him just legitimately outsmart every other Spider-Man ever, when it comes to saving lives, is just going too far. I think Miles should fail, and he has to learn that some things, like death, are simply inevitable, and we just need to learn to appreciate the time we have. But the tropes of movies like this say that he’s going to find a way, and I just truly think that would be to the detriment of the narrative. But, overall, 9/10

[@Corrector1]

I've had the same concerns ever since the full trailer dropped. Spider-Man is usually portrayed as one of the greatest heroes around, someone who always beats the odds. So if even they think that what Miles is trying to do is impossible, there should be a good reason for it. If they have Miles succeed, it'll feel like they're not just saying that he's worthy of being Spider-Man, but that he's _better_ than other Spider-Men, which would not only devalue the rest of them, but make it feel like they're trying to push the character too hard. Hopefully they'll manage a conclusion that I find satisfying, like maybe Miles does save his dad, but there still has to be a sacrifice of some kind to keep everything from going tits up.

[@flamebreaker7318]

​​@@Corrector1 sacrifice sacrifice sacrifice spiderman has sacrificed enough in one fucking multiverse let one fucking spidey actually be happy in life.

[@matthewfarmer9500]

The Empire Strikes Back comparison is really good. I also felt like the flow of the pace wasn’t as good as the first one.

[@bornanime3255]

Didn't really mind the cut off. Personally it made me feel more reeaaaally pumped. Like, it make me just think that I NEED to watch more

[@aakashsancheti9614]

The world building in this movie is a complete disaster

[@SomebodyWhoExists23]

How??

[@big-g-1]

This movie had an ending, it began with Gwen and ended with Gwen :)

[@trangenderstan]

I'm so happy someone made a video like this because it's important to criticize things you love! The cliffhanger did feel extremely jarring to me, even though i understand where it came from. To me personally, this film also had some minor pacing issues that felt just out of place enough to break my immersion for a moment. And overall, it just doesn't feel as sharp as the first, if that makes sense? So many things happen and none of them stand out in my memory bright enough. If i'm asked about what are my favorite scenes from part 1, i'm immediately torn between at least 5. With Across the Spiderverse though, i don't really have the same response The animation was incredible. My jaw was on the floor the entire time in the theatre, but i wish the plot was just as good

[@SpareMango]

I loved it, but knew as soon as I was done watching it that it wasn't that strong of a film. It lacks a central conflict and there isn't really a climax.

[@MacNava]

Out of topic, but I still can’t stop thinking about his Chikn Nuggit April fools video where he sounds unhinged. Ever since then, his views has went down, which is a shame since this guy has interesting views of media.

[@SirButton-]

I remember being in the theatre opening day of the movie and when it got to the "to be continued" part everyone in the audience just looked around confused and bewildered because it felt like the last 30 minutes of the movie had just been sliced off from it, this movie has no actual conclusion and dropped the ball at the very end because of it, the perfect analogy for this movie I've seen was akin to the rebels flying towards the death star for the finale of the movie and then cutting to a "to be continued" text and ending right there, it doesn't matter if this is just a part 1 it *needs* to have its own satisfying conclusion, Star Wars and LOTR worked this out decades ago for crying out loud. Dropping the "Part 1" from the title was the absolute worse decision they could've made with this movie, as atleast going in people would've atleast known they weren't getting a complete story, never the less having a Part 1 movie without its own conclusion to the 140 minutes of time we spent watching and getting invested is just stupid beyond comparison.

[@jollama]

Cool bro

[@livefromblakely5076]

also this film gave me a severe sensory fit to the point where i felt sick THE REST OF THE DAY. stay careful peeps

[@scarletspidernz]

8:50 I think the way it ended is also a Meta Commentary "Nah, I'mma do my own thing" They're breaking the norms , Miles and Spiderverse are doing it there way because no one can tell them how their movie should go. As per watch?v=AdaDtrcN3-4 It also make sense with the world we are in now with how easy it is to access and enjoy media, and with how popular Into and Across was, Theaters have a chance on the release on Beyond to rerun both Prequels (I really hope they do). Change the game, change the way execs and corpos get thier money, allow more develop time and reap the rewards on multi runs of the movie. If they don't take that from this its just stupid fail on ceo/exec part.

[@alemonyoyo69420]

I mean, the film starts with Gwen, introducing the beginning of her story for this movie with her dad, and by the end of that movie it's wrapped up. It has a conclusion to a story, as well as a Cliffhanger for the overarching narrative.

[@shawnellesmith]

It was a conclusion for a story arc, not the movie.

[@alemonyoyo69420]

@@shawnellesmith Her story arc was like the central arc of the movie. Miles Story arc is the central arc of the trilogy.

[@Quacomoley]

one of my family members screamed "NOOOOOOOOOO" when it said to be continued

[@Rugrats-91]

I think you made a good point, dude. I personally didn't mind the cliffhanger, especially coming from someone who saw the first movie for the first time weeks before seeing the second. Plus, given the troubles that surfaced during the production and the ongoing WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes causing it to be delayed indefinitely... Yeah, we'll be waiting a good while before the conclusion.

[@sky-h08]

I'm hoping that when Beyond is out, they release a version where Across and Beyond play back-to-back with no "TBC" in the middle. Just one continuous experience

[@gravityhero2227]

The cliff hanger had me on the edge of my seat.

[@kingagrabowska9366]

I'm going to be honest. I didn't like this movie. - The whole movie can't stand on its own. It's a rehash/explainer of the previous one and a setup for the sequel. - I don't like the new characters. If you have to say somebody is ''cool'' it automatically makes them less cool. - I hate the dialogue. In the original, I could tolerate it but in this movie, it's so obnoxious. It's what I like to call Tumblr/Twitter speak. They just keep trying to be ''funny'', ''relatable'' and ''self-aware'' and it just doesn't work for me. You have some funny meme material but it totally kills whatever stakes there are in the movie. - The whole ''canon event'' feels like it's supposed to be a dig at people who care about it and the lesson in the second movie will be ''fu*k canon, we can do what we want''. Which is so stupid! And because everything is predetermined and some people just have to die it takes away from the tragedy, responsibility, and consequences of the choices Spider-people make. And of course, the logical and moral thing to do is let one person die than let an entire universe collapse. It makes Miles so selfish and irresponsible. And if the next movie shows a way you can save people without universes breaking it means Spider Society let God knows how many people die for no reason. If not for the animation this movie wouldn't be as liked.

[@Mr_bukowski4435]

I completely agree because after seeing the movie a third time with one of my friends, he said that we were still in the rising action and it didn’t fully work as a film, although he did admit everything else was great. He’s right because man everything it did was some of the best cinema I’ve seen in 2 years but MAAAN I wanna see it finished

[@scatmanjohnfan22]

It absolutely felt like a tv show cliffhanger

[@belleatwirewoodproductions7560]

Bro I saw this movie when I was 14 too and I loved it so much, I still like the film a lot(I mean the first move spider man into the spider verse, I have yet to see the sequel)

[@LC_-he5zq]

One problem is an understatement.. This movie has a hundred problems and like a billion plot holes and thats coming from the Canon events alone

[@detectivehan5717]

They *just* had to *stop* at the moment where miles meets his counterpart

[@thephantomsplit]

Honestly, with how much they're building up, I cannot for the life of me see this movie tackling ALL of the problems at once for the climax. With the fact that they are setting up 5, that's right, FIVE different situations happening all at once, this movie can't simply be done all in one. The cliff hanger honestly, and I mean it in the best way, ends like a cliffhanger would in the comics. AND it also has the same feel that Infinity War's cliffhanger had... well, at least in my opinion.

[@Xeorboom]

my only problem is that it felt too much like it was just setting up the 3rd since there was no real climax... but Spot was expectional, I loved Cardboard Vulture's design, 2099 was a unique take, and Spider-Punk is the most over-the-top stereotypical Londoner ever!

[@upumpkin]

I didn't mind the cliffhanger because many characters got full arcs, honestly my only complaint was that some jokes and references felt flat

[@N_DAnimationEnthusiast]

Man, I just watched this movie a few hours ago.

[@N_DAnimationEnthusiast]

7:43 Yeah! That was literally me when I got to the ending

[@timmygilbert4102]

The criticism: he wanted more... That's not a criticism, that's praising with style

[@PinkiemachineStudios]

I personally don’t agree on the subject of “it needs to have a satisfying self contained story whether it’s a two parter or not.” Mainly because I feel like it does accomplish plenty of satisfying thing by the end of its runtime-Gwen and her dad, (Gwen in general, actually) and Miles standing up to and confronting Miguel. In any ways it hasn’t been satisfyingly concluded, I’m okay with waiting for part two, because this is literally just part one. No one expects part one of a season premier or finale to end not on a cliffhanger with everything already resolved. And yes, I know this is film and not television we’re talking about, but who ever said that film can’t sometimes follow the same rules of television? See, this is what I love about Spiderverse. It challenges the typical movie viewing experience and dares to try something new. I understand *some* people not having the patience for that, but personally, I don’t think it’s such a bad thing. Actually, it might do some people some good.

[@madhattermaker622]

Went Cinema to see both this and Guardians of the Galaxy 3. A year ago The Batman 2022 came out and my god It's nice to see Super-hero movies actually start doing good so long as we exclude Antman Quantumania.

[@Lizardgreininja47449]

This cristiam is not fair

[@madhattermaker622]

@@Lizardgreininja47449 The heck are you talking about, the video or my comment. And if it is my comment the only thing I can see you trying to defend is Antman Qauntumania which if you are trying to defend Antman Qauntumania then you're a lost cause.

[@NighttimeNubbs]

The ending was fine because I was lucky enough to be spoiled that "it ends on a massive cliff hanger" so I was able to brace my expectations. I'd rather the film be split the way it was than cut to a single film losing stuff or at a less impactful scene. The ending to me felt fine because it sets up shit will be going down hard in next film but I can see why ending on a crescendo would bug people. My actually gripes for it are both audio based. 1. In some scenes especially early on it was noticeably distracting how they were in intense combat but talking like they were chilling at someone's house. Would've been more immersive if there was straining in their voice to time with their swings/kicks but not sure if it was purposely done to make it easier to hear the lines. 2. I hate they carried from the 1st movie with the music. The volume will be fine with scenes where they're talking then it switches to a transition scene with music blaring at what seems to be 2-3x volume the conversational pieces. Was annoying at home, even more annoying at theatres where you can't adjust volume.

[@lemonofcake]

I felt the same way after leaving the theatre! They were setting so much up but not a lot of it was actually resolved, that was the one thing in this movie that actually bothered me. Everything else was astounding, I just felt as though Across the Spiderverse doesn’t work as well as a stand alone film.

[@jericho7173]

I feel like people forgot how cliff hangers work.

[@Cry_Like_A_Swamp_Puppy]

I didn’t know it was a part one, so my reaction was basically “that’s IT????!!!!” If it was more up front about the fact that there would be a cliffhanger it would have been cool, but because I didn’t know beforehand, it was more just a feeling that it ended without any sort of resolution. Great movie though. Loved the art style(s) and animation. 9.275/10

[@Stalebread47]

Across the spiderverse being 9.5 (even when half of the story is missing) shows how perfect the movie is

[@GENTLYCRIMINALL]

Tbf, ive noticed i haven't see. A movie with a cliffhanger fr years now I honestly am hyped for the next movie even more since all i can think about is what comes next

[@kai_3788]

I guess you got a point. The cliffhanger they left off on would work better if it was for an episode of a show rather than for a movie

[@solomonhoward1561]

What if Hobie hit before he knew about Miles…

[@boardman_13]

You put what my thoughts were into this video

[@TheIqbal227]

BALLS TO THE WALLS NUCKING FUTS

[@WhoEustace]

My issue with cliffhangers is that, in my opinion, they are supposed to make you WANT to continue watching and not FORCE you to continue. Giving the viewer at least some satisfaction and answering some questions, the "appetizers" for your interest and engagement. A good cliffhanger is the one that could allow you to quit watching and still have some semblance of a complete story in mind. A bad cliffhanger doesn't even allow for the story to fully form. The cliffhanger in this movie unfortunately felt like a bad one to me. It didn't explain or answer any of the questions I developed while watching it and was so excited to learn the answers to, it didn't leave a trail of breadcrumbs to maybe theorize about those answers myself, it just cut off. I agree with you, it DID feel like the people working on it just had to cut it short at some point due to lack of time, but at this point with how continuous and intertwined the story is you'd think it would be easier for them to just make it a short series instead of a two-part movie.

[@bigmanshimsham]

If the only complaint that you have is that 2 hour movie wasn't 4 hours that means something

[@siddharthshekhar6786]

I think the reason why most people loved the movie but found the ending annoying is because the fact that it's a 2-parter was not nearly as explicitly advertised. I was aware of it during the movie, so I was dreading the ending to drop any moment. Really, during the last 25 minutes, the movie ends like 5 times, with the swelling of the music, the zoom in on the faces and so on. Each time I felt like "No! Don't end it here!" and so when it did end, I heaved a sigh of relief that it had a satisfying ending for a Part I movie. They really have all the pieces ready to throw us directly into Part II, with the climax montage setting up cliffhangers as well as feelings of hope across multiple universes. It felt like the writers were setting up the chess board so that the actual game can start in Part II.

[@itbechris]

I love how pretty much everyones critique is "I wish there was more"

[@shawnellesmith]

Dude, it felt like the executives came in, took a big pair of scissors, cut the film in half and told the creators “You can have that. You’ll get the rest later.” The movie felt incomplete.

[@Thenameless1]

Alright this is cutting into my Transmetropolitan reading time so let me burn through this video quickly.

[@MrTheWaterbear]

They should have stopped the movie when Aaron enters the room. Boom. Uncle Aaron is alive. Wrong Universe. Next!

[@Adu767]

I feel the same way on almost every point. I just can't wait until the 3rd film releases so that this criticism becomes irrelevant, as the optimal viewing experience will simply become watching them back-to-back.

[@somedorkydude6483]

Tbh that's my opinion mostly to quote my dad "Twards the end my i was like how much longer is this going to go on and then it just ended and I was like... ok I guess now"

[@PointingouttheObvious]

I think for me Gwen and miles being in completely different place than when they started makes up for the the narrative technically not being complete

[@gemstonerow]

The cliff hanger doesn't really bother me but I can see why it did for alot of people, this was honestly a W video

[@sammysamiam5219]

I like how they couldn’t get Nicolas Cage or John Mulaney to show up in that one scene with miles on the couch surrounded by all the other Spider-people, but they knew good and goddamn well that at some point they needed to give the Spectacular Spider-Man a couple of lines. Otherwise they would’ve been riots at Sony doorstep. They knew that if they couldn’t give that beautiful son of a bitch a couple of seconds for cameo that there would’ve been hell to pay across the spider verse

[@brugnuh]

That spot really hit the bagel

[@Fruutblossom]

If they were allowed to release a film that was 4-5 hours long to tell a complete story I bet they would have.

[@ethanadams8109]

Conclusion: Across the Spiderverse is so good that it's singular biggest flaw is that there isn't more of it

[@kotlolish]

My biggest nitpick of the movie is "CANON EVENT" Like couldn't you just call it "Fixed point in history" or something like that? Or "Universal Constant??" Canon event is so... direct a call out to: "Stop complaining about canon and let us make our own shit" Like.. I hate that kinda narrative since it's preachy and annoying. Now that said..Spiderverse DOES on the other hand explain it well and do it well. But the word Canon event just pulled me out of it. It's just narrative gripe... insted of using smart relatable allegories just call it what it is cause "The audiance is dumb" But atleast they show not once.. but twice when a "Canon event" is overwritten.. (even though it's abit sloppy)

[@robertvsgamming4649]

I dont really know how to feel, I totally get your point but after I watched the movie, I was both hyped and intreeged by the ending, so much that ill try my best to be on day one when beyond comes out but I do see your points. However I think Peter's kid will play a bigger role in the sequel rather then its appearance and the small touching scene when Peter wanted to help Milles escape/understand his faith. The pregnancy... idk might be an end movie reveal or Smth but I liked the ending a lot, the curiosity as gwen clashed her band to help miles save his father. Mighelle and the other 2 trying to find Miles while he is stuck with his evil counterpart that is going to (hopefully) fight against in the next movie. Like im so hyped and since its a sequel they will have MORE then enough to fit in a concluding and nice story.