Active vs MTM SGS28 | Swivel Spray Gun Review & Testing | Car Wash Tips

[@gregory3227]

Exact comparison I was looking for! Full stainless steel, Italian made, lighter trigger pull, and last but not least as you stated… 3 years of use. The sgs28 is a no brainer for me. Thanks for the video!

[@CarsWithKeav]

Trigger pull is the best part. It’s like it’s not even there.

[@rubenharris9241]

The quality of your reviews is 2nd to none Keav. Well done! I’ve now begun to hold off on making certain purchases until you weigh in via a review. Its the best compliment that I can provide.

[@annagraham6204]

Totally agree. Original content with relevant real world testing.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Really appreciate that. Soon my website will go live with even more info and a way to navigate all those dang links in the description. Ways to do giveaways and also Previews of future products that I will be reviewing.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Thank you!

[@evanhughes111]

Ive been using the active about 3 months now and not only did I have to delete the ball bearings and rod, I also had to delete the black plastic pivot pieces as well. The trigger would get hung up and stay on. Very annoying. After I deleted everything, it has been perfect!

[@CarsWithKeav]

Same here just need a simple setup I hate it when things get over complicated.

[@TheDailyDriven]

Just got mine in last week. Going to give it a try. So far i like the ergonomics of it, the weight of it and the build quality

[@CarsWithKeav]

It’s a great unit. Just not for people with fat hands. 🤣

[@imdeplorable2241]

An honest, no-holds-barred review. A consumer can't ask for anymore than that. Well done, Internet Keav.👍

[@CarsWithKeav]

Appreciate that!

[@boostftw123]

"there's an affiliate link for the active gun in the link below".....

[@ceerock8088]

SGS28 for me. Easy to repair. Parts readily available. Swivel is ok but I do have a swivel on the end of my hose. Double swivel might be overkill but feel so good.

[@annagraham6204]

I was wondering if that made a difference. Might have to get a hose swivel now:)

[@CarsWithKeav]

Might be a good idea for a video. Does it add any extra bulk?

[@ceerock8088]

@@CarsWithKeav got mines at Detail Division and it felt great

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@ceerock8088 Will look into it. Thanks.

[@muchospicy6648]

What's the name of the piece you got?

[@coolwrld302]

What Gilmour garden hose nozzle is that because that I definitely need hate holding the trigger non-stop on garden hose sprayers

[@CarsWithKeav]

Only place I have seen it is at Walmart. Most of them at least in my area have them in stock. www.walmart.com/ip/Gilmour-Professional-Click-Control-8-Pattern-Watering-Nozzle/1278480731?fulfillmentIntent=Pickup&from=/search

[@HeadShot1171]

Had a good laugh when you repeatedly dropped the Active gun. Just ordered the SGS28. Should be here tomorrow. Great teardown, and review ... And thanks for the laugh!

[@CarsWithKeav]

My SGS28 is almost 4 years in and abused like crazy, but still working perfect.

[@carbonlord]

Great review! Thx and I would have added a like anyway at the end but the moment you threw both on the ground and bumbled them around, I had to instantly hit the like! Loved it!

[@CarsWithKeav]

I dropped mine all the time so figured might as well. 🤣

[@Daddy_Smurf5.0]

Just FYI. The MTM internals are not all stainless the upper portion is nickel plated brass

[@CarsWithKeav]

Correct, for some reason I believed Matt from OG made a mistake in his video on them. For sure it’s nickel plated brass.

[@XingruiZhou]

I don’t understand why the 3/8 quick plug of the hose can also rotate, why does the high pressure gun need to rotate inside the gun?

[@CarsWithKeav]

The quick connect will only rotate up until it’s pressurized then it will barely move and if you move too much it can break the gasket seals. Spinning inside the gun allows it to spin regardless of pressure and makes dealing with heavy hoses way easier.

[@Enthusiast_detailing]

I’m using a yamatic short gun with a swivel ($35) my plan was to upgrade to a sgs28, now I’m not sure anymore 😂

[@CarsWithKeav]

In a week or so I should have a video out on the new Yamatic swivel gun that is comparable to the SGS28.

[@Enthusiast_detailing]

@@CarsWithKeav bet can’t wait to see your comparison!

[@marcg1964]

Nice complete review. I just bought the MTM gun shortly before learning about the new one from Active. Looks like they are both good choices.

[@CarsWithKeav]

You will love the MTM.

[@JimHiner-z3z]

What about the trigger that rubber cover on trigger has fallen off 100 times and i removed it Active wouldnt stand behind it

[@CarsWithKeav]

Mine has not fallen off and first I heard of this as an issue, but I don’t use it all the time I went back to the SGS28 as I just like using it more. Sucks that happened. What did they say and how long after getting it did it happen?

[@JimHiner-z3z]

@@CarsWithKeav I am a at home enthusiast it fell off before 1 yr warranty but it took till now to call. I succumed and purchased the OG Mosmatic. Every gun out there doesnt have the the rubber

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@JimHiner-z3z You are right it’s the only one with no rubber probably a reason for that. I myself don’t really like it as I like the trigger to slide in my hand as I pull down. I think it helps with fatigue. How is the OG Mosmatic compared to the Active? I might review that gun it’s a big ask from my viewers.

[@JimHiner-z3z]

@@CarsWithKeav I am getting it on Sunday but from from fav's like you Hawaii Car detailing and a few others they all say it is the absolute best. OG Spec wasn't necessary as I called clean garage and it is the same gun just rebranded Obsessed Garage. The one on Amazon is from Clean garage for 139 LOL but i paid 222 LOL

[@JimHiner-z3z]

Actually Active is the only one with rubber. Active is now out of stock and new gun comes out Oct/Nov. I bet you a cup of coffee new gun has no rubber

[@js6033]

Didnt talk about the most important part. Which gun swivels easier?

[@CarsWithKeav]

9:38 I explain the Active spins better.

[@pantac4493]

MTM sgs28 meets all my needs. I like the simple tear down without loose parts flying out. The only thing I would improve is the swivel stiffness but it seems to get better with use. The trigger can’t be beat imo

[@CarsWithKeav]

Trigger is the best. The active when you take out all the complication is very close, but why buy one and modify if you get all you need with the MTM.

[@sandoutlaw85]

So keav which one do you think os better the sgs35 or the sgs28 and do they both have the same internals i know the sgs35 aqualine os a food grade gun just dont know what to get

[@CarsWithKeav]

The internals are the exact same just the SGS35 stainless parts are 316 and the SGS28 is 304 stainless. The plastic on the SGS35 is food grade. I find the SGS28 better for me as the SGS35 is bulkier and slightly heavier. You’ll never use it enough for the higher quality stainless and plastic to matter. Plus the price difference is a good bit.

[@CookiesUnleashed]

Isn’t the click their pressure relief system? It’s supposed to trigger into a no pressure needed state until you let your hand off the trigger

[@CarsWithKeav]

It wish it was, but you still need tension to hold it down and it’s more than the SGS28 for sure.

[@CookiesUnleashed]

@@CarsWithKeav hm I forgot where I even heard that from? Do you know why active and mosmatic even bothers with it then? I don't understand the concept especially if it doesn't' offer linear control

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@CookiesUnleashed I am unsure I have not tried the Mosmatic as I can't see paying that much for a spray gun. Mosmatic it could be a relief system I just can't say for sure not trying one out yet. Active even shows now on their channel how to stop the click. Its just a metal ball hitting a point and then clicking I see nothing there to relieve any tension on the trigger.

[@Sn-tk8rq]

I’m leaning toward the mtm. It has less visual weight. The design is simpler for longevity. The grip looks like it works better for smaller hands. Thanks for the comparison.

[@CarsWithKeav]

MTM is amazing and yes if you have smaller hands it will help you pull the trigger easier. Smaller hands would need more grip strength to hold the Active trigger down.

[@ShrugMedia]

Sold comparison, and review of the two. I recently had the opportunity to use the active gun and I personally liked it a lot.

[@taijgrant4088]

Is the active that much better than a Mckillan swivel gun? I’m just getting into this stuff and was just curious because I was going to purchase the mckillan today

[@CarsWithKeav]

It is a little bit better from a trigger squeeze point of view. The swivel is slightly better as well. The SGS28 is worth it over the Mckillans more than the Active. Been abusing mine for 4 years now. Mckillans also has a new pro gun coming out. I’ll be doing a review on it soon.

[@taijgrant4088]

@@CarsWithKeav appreciate it 💪🏾

[@srussell5250]

Love your reviews, want to buy a new short gun to go with my new 2.3 Active. Do you still think the Active gun is your favorite. I also want to get a new foam cannon and the new Active one looks pretty good, I just don't know if I wanna wait till Oct. Thanks again for all your Great and Informative videos !!!

[@CarsWithKeav]

I went back to the SGS28 the trigger is just so much better and not as bulky. The McKillans swivel pro is nice as well.

[@srussell5250]

@@CarsWithKeav Thank you again

[@srussell5250]

@@CarsWithKeav The Pro has the swivel inside which I like, but is the trigger as good as the SGS ?

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@srussell5250 It’s the closest I have felt, but still not the same. SGS28 trigger there is nothing like it. You have to deal with the bulky swivel and the gun being at a different angle, but worth it for me. Just depends on what you value many like the Mckillans.

[@srussell5250]

@@CarsWithKeav Tough decision .. lol Thank you... Keep up the strong work ,

[@jays1594]

You need more subscribers. Thank you for this.

[@CarsWithKeav]

You’re welcome!

[@darktoadone5068]

Does anyone know a store that sells the quick disconnects I can put the nozzles in? I've looked in Ace Hardware, Home Depot and Lowes and haven't had any luck. I have a Simpson hand gun sprayer that needs one.

[@CarsWithKeav]

I can help find you the right one, but which spray gun do you have? They have multiple spray guns with different connections. Either way they will not have them in most stores except for maybe Northern Tool. If I can figure out the connection at the end of your gun I can for sure find what you need.

[@dannysandoval5195]

Great job on testing and comparing the two guns Keav.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Thank You

[@oahujoe3263]

Is anyone else finding that they smash their pinky when using it? Idk for some reason the distance of the trigger and the way I like to drop quickly and grab quickly to rinse stuff I need my pinky to keep the gun in my hand from falling because the trigger is so far away.

[@CarsWithKeav]

I have not had this type of issue. Is this for the Active or the MTM? Hopefully somebody will respond if they have the same issue. We all do things different.

[@chrisfig77]

What kind of electric pressure washer do you have?

[@CarsWithKeav]

Active 2.0

[@F80Ho]

Congrats again on 10k brother!

[@CarsWithKeav]

Thx bro, you’re next!

[@joshread3740]

So I've been really enjoying this product. I was a little confused about the click mechanism as well, so I was researching it a bit. I believe the Mosmatic does this too. From what I can understand, and it also makes sense when I try it myself, is that the trigger pull BEFORE the click has a bit of tension and may be good for short accurate bursts, but the ball bearing the with click is when the tension breaks and requires essentially no pulling force to hold the trigger down. After doing it myself, it seems right. All of the tension seems to be before the click happens.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Agreed on this assumption, but when you hold an SGS28 trigger it requires no tension. Active still after the click requires a little grip to keep it spraying. It’s very minimal In comparison to just about anything out there, but that SGS28 had me spoiled.

[@KiranPatel-fk1pg]

The weird thing about the Mosmatic is that it sprays before the trigger clicks so the fact it clicks in is somewhat pointless since you can get it to spray by lightly pulling. One thing I will say though is that it's nice to have some resistance, the SGS28 has zero resistance and I found I'd accidentally spray it all the time.

[@joshread3740]

@@KiranPatel-fk1pg Yeah the Active is just like the Mosmatic trigger mechanism. It's weird but I like it, because I find it extremely easy to keep pressed down after you click.

[@annagraham6204]

Excellent review. I really like the more compact swivel on the active. It seems worth the price point based on build quality but a little steep in terms of brand recognition for the non nerds. If it were $60ish and swap the yellow to black I’d be in. Picky picky. *The Yamatic gun that goes for $69 has stainless internals like the your MTM. Thanks Keav!

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@annagraham6204 I bought a Yamatic to do a review, but hate to break it to everyone that it is not stainless internals. The top 1/4 is Stainless for the Quick Connect to thread in, but the internal valve structure is all brass just like Mosmatic and Active.

[@amylong7340]

Hey thanks for the video review. I'm seriously thinking about getting an MTM sprayer. I noticed that your pressure hose looked really solid, much better than my UberFlex which kinks every time I use it. Which hose were you using, as there are two listed above?

[@CarsWithKeav]

Funny thing I started using the Uberflex. I compared the two hoses here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGO3Z395bb6ae5o

[@manrex5238]

I love what active has done with the pressure washers but my experience with active pressure gun is pretty bad,if you want too showcase the gun in your you show as sell pitch is fine I’m not saying is bad just my experience with it was not good,it did not work properly after like 5 uses see, now I have to go with the MTM see if I buy the Mosmatic OG 200 dollars it would had been a much better option

[@CarsWithKeav]

Not sure what happened to yours did you reach out about warranty this is the first gun I have heard have problems. My Active gun is still working quite well use it a good bit, but prefer the SGS28 still it is just been my workhorse for years. I know many who use the Active gun everyday in their mobile detailing setup. Not sure about any sales pitch I do honest reviews if you don't believe it thats cool. I just show everything about the product compare it to something I know. Several times in the video I show things I don't like about it. I would never buy Mosmatic the SGS28 gun to me is the better choice even Matt from OG wanted that to be his exclusive product as he had a hand in the design.

[@manrex5238]

@@CarsWithKeav I’m not saying your videos are not cool,like you I say what I think if you take it bad well that’s freedom of speech bother,the gun has the trigger stuck and it doesn’t come back so I have to dissemble and see what’s going on and that is not a 40 dollars Amazon gun man but well I think maybe you are right outta all the active pressure washing guns has ever produced mine is the only want defective….🤔🤔🤔💭💭

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@manrex5238 Absolutely brother you say what you want you have that right. I'm not saying its the only one to have an issue with as many out there there has to be some defects no manufacturer is perfect. It is just the first I have heard of. I think it is that ball bearing and spring that I took out in the video. I didn't like the feel and it takes complication of it. Simple is usually always better which is why I love the SGS28. Hope you are able to resolve it as when it is working its a pretty good gun.

[@manrex5238]

@@CarsWithKeav yep that’s what I’m gonna do thanks to your video I’ll take those pieces out, thanks man

[@functionaldoc5054]

So your saying the OG Mosimatic gun internals aren't fully stainless? So what you are getting is the internal swivel and internal connector at the top with less stainless for 2X the price? I will just keep my SGS28 then. The one time I dropped gun on the quick connect on the tip side and had by new one from MTM in stainless. Great in depth and honest review as always,

[@CarsWithKeav]

I hate to say it , but just about all of them tend to have the same type of internals when it comes to the valves and body. Just the swivel, trigger pull, ergonomics and quick connects is where the money is spent for techonology. MTM SGS28 is nickel plated brass for corrosion, but really what are you going to do with the outside of the internals that will corrode? I have dropped my sgs28 a thousand times. I drop it every time I am done spraying and only thing I have replaced is the tip quick connect one time due to wearing out the bearings. MTM also sells rebuild kits for $15 and I just bought one to see what it does.

[@functionaldoc5054]

@@CarsWithKeav please do a rebuild video. I have spent plenty of money at OG store just keep my current gun and save for a Kranzle when my Active 2.0 dies which I bought from Matt.

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@functionaldoc5054 Some crazy good pressure washers coming out soon. Active 2.3 and Big Boi coming with a pro model. they should be in the $600 range and full commercial models. I will look into doing a video on the rebuild kit. Kranzle is a great machine as well and would last basically forever as long as you maintain it.

[@1thechosenjuan1]

@@functionaldoc5054why kranzle? Don’t like the ar? Has better output and is couple hundred bucks cheaper

[@bimmerbroM3]

thanks for the honesty it really help when purchasing things

[@CarsWithKeav]

You’re welcome

[@go5582]

Hi handsome. Did your car change colors? Nice cannon. What distance can your cannon get? 10ft 20ft 30 ft 40ft?

[@CarsWithKeav]

It changes colors from green to blue. Never measured the distance of the cannon.

[@DMCnME]

This thing looks cool. Gonna give it a shot. Currently rocking the McKillians.

[@CarsWithKeav]

You can’t go wrong with either of these.

[@bbdetailing9123]

Excellent video. Love the klutz moments, for testing of course, and the bloopers. How does this go? Haha

[@CarsWithKeav]

I like to have a little fun. Don’t want it to feel like I’m working. 🤣

[@bbdetailing9123]

@@CarsWithKeav I hear you. All work and no play....

[@ThisOldDetailingDude]

Have you considered the new trying the new yamatic ( 5800 psi)? I would be interested in a comparison of all 3 short guns

[@CarsWithKeav]

I have seen it, but looks bulky. Might have to try it out. Pictures can be deceiving and the dimensions shown on Amazon are never right.

[@annagraham6204]

I’ve had it for a while now if we’re talking about the all black one with built swivel on Amazon for $69. I bought after stay slick did a vid and got 40% off. Keav is right it’s bulky. The swivel is live and it feels solid but it has a really subtle annoying squeak when trigger is pulled. I took it apart and think I finally fixed. I really want to try the black and red $35 Ridge Washer gun. I have their 50” gray hose attached to a retractable a reel and love it. Never thought I’d get to be such a pressure washing whore but here I am!

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@annagraham6204 I bought at least one of each kind of cheaper swivel gun. Many brands, but you can tell most of them are the same design just rebranded. Thanks for pointing out the ridge washer they didn’t have swivel in the title which makes no sense. One of the pictures shows a swivel so I bought it. We will have a cheap swivel battle soon.

[@317Auto]

Great review Keav! Just picked up the MTM and the Active 2.0. Looking forward to them both.

[@CarsWithKeav]

It’s one heck of a combination

[@chrisgroom5260]

Love the paint on Helen😍

[@CarsWithKeav]

Thank You

[@bizmofunyuns6463]

What orifice do you use with the foam cannon?

[@CarsWithKeav]

1.25 when using with the Active 2.0. You can’t run a 1.1 as it will go over 15 AMPs. I am Actually thinking of going to 1.35 to help save some life on the motor. 1.25 still gets close to 15 AMPs

[@bizmofunyuns6463]

@@CarsWithKeav thanks dude

[@aubreywhitley6889]

Keav, great review as always! Without handling them and using them, the MTM still looks the best to my eye. The Active is just too bulky in the head. I'd think it would be hard to get around the tires to clean the wheel wells. Which I have to do in the winter after driving in the snow and other gunk. I loved the blooper at the end. I saw the parts fallout and went "Oh shit! How's that go back together?" 🤣

[@CarsWithKeav]

It is bulky for its overall size. A good long nozzle guard like the Mckillians will help get in the wheel well too or my next wacky Amazon review item might help. Stay tuned.

[@Futurase1]

This made me buy the Active gun. I own an Active Pressure Washer and I had been looking at the gun ever since they announced development. The gun seems to be a very good design and quality. I like the rubber grip. That helps stop fatigue.

[@CarsWithKeav]

The angle of the nozzle will help fatigue as well you don’t have to bend your wrist to get a straight on spray.

[@cfwebdeveloper]

lol love the drop testing. Active one is nice to the eye, but I might still enjoy the other one, I love using it. Maybe if I win it I could try it lol ;) Great review video as always.

[@CarsWithKeav]

You can’t go wrong with either one. It’s style preference at this point.

[@SquadCollector]

I don't believe it's stainless internals. Just zinc or nickel plated brass... Helps with corrosion.

[@CarsWithKeav]

It’s not, there was some false info out there on the materials. It is Nickel plated.

[@kennythomsonjr5553]

Great video. I really appreciate your time and commitment to your craft. You ought to drive your BMW into a wall to test the airbag! Sorry, I couldn't resist

[@CarsWithKeav]

After seeing all the recalls lately on airbags might be a good idea. 🤣

[@WhiteBeardDetail]

Would love a video on Helen, maintenance, upgrades, performance upgrades what you plan on doing inthe future

[@CarsWithKeav]

This is the best I have right now. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3quk6abjJafeKs No new plans as it’s my wife’s car. If we get her something new this car might get bagged. Not sure yet.

[@juliolopez5630]

The internals of the active gun don’t even come close to the premium guns

[@CarsWithKeav]

Agreed

[@kevinkinsler]

Get the Obsessed Garage Gun and be done with it. Much much much better trigger and Performance.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Too much $$ for most people. For me I want to review everything and probably will buy it for a video. Mosmatic to me doesn’t have enough to beat the SGS28 in terms of value. Most can get a hose, fittings and spray gun for the cost of a Mosmatic. I’m sure it is amazing. Performance is a vaguely used term sometimes, but from my definition the Mosmatic would not have anymore performance. It might have a better feeling trigger, swivel, fittings, etc. The PSI and Flow will not be any different. OG sells the SGS28 so that shows Matt thinks it’s good of course he helped design it that’s why it’s stainless internals.

[@RichardLongh]

Why waste your money when you can spend less and get all the same benefits?

[@BBSKenny]

That's not fat, that's grip strength skin! ✊✊

[@CarsWithKeav]

There you go! Way better way to say it. 🤣

[@pierrelabbe3173]

Canada québécois Merci ❤😊

[@BloggingITGuy]

I don't get why anyone would spend this kind of money on a trigger that doesn't have a trigger lock so you can rinse a car without holding the trigger. That should be a required feature at this price point.

[@CarsWithKeav]

What pressure washer gun do you have that has a lock to keep the trigger held? It’s an industry standard to not have one due to liability concerns with safety. No major manufacturer I know of has that feature. Some very powerful pressure washers are being used with these guns. I see people use Velcro sometimes to hold it down. I might want to review a gun with that feature.

[@annagraham6204]

I get why you’d think that for ease of use but it’s actually opposite of what you’re thinking. The lock is so you can’t squeeze the trigger.

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@annagraham6204 big safety issue with an auto lock feature I would think. 3k psi pressure washer and you lock it to run then trip and fall then the stream takes out your eyeball or something or damages property.

[@pantac4493]

With the mtm, there’s no force required to hold down trigger, I can spray as long as I want without fatigue

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@pantac4493 Agreed, you can have your hand fully relaxed and the trigger still stays pulled down. Its basically a locked trigger without a lock.

[@go5582]

Hi handsome. Great review.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Thanks

[@autopeakdetailing]

Neither. Carbon Collective

[@CarsWithKeav]

I’ve seen it, but it’s a $95 (Not to mention shipping costs) short gun that I have to adapt down to 3/8 from M22 so I just have not seen the reason to try it out yet. Plus not a fan of the color, but maybe I’ll try it one day. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@autopeakdetailing]

@@CarsWithKeav I like it more than my mtm personally. And detail division sells it in the states. The nicer mtm is the same or more last time I checked. Short easy pull, light trigger, nice quick connect and nice swivel. No problem 👌

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@autopeakdetailing Not a fan of the more expensive MTM SGS35 as it’s too big. The SGS28 is $85 free shipping with fittings on Amazon. Not sure what Detail division charges for shipping as it’s $4.99 if you spend over $199. Might be approaching $110 with shipping charges. I hear good things though. Still might try it out though for review. Appreciate your input.

[@alphasmurf6563]

Good attempt but still light years away from OG’s gun with mosmatic swivels. Spend the money and don’t be a cheap ass

[@CarsWithKeav]

Nah, SGS28 all day. Mosmatic not worth it to me. Maybe to you and that’s fine we all have our choices. Matt doesn’t consider the sgs28 cheap crap he recommends it.