Adam, the Archangel

www.lds.org/general-conferenc... Elder Mark E. Petersen delivers a message titled "Adam, the Archangel."

[@letvirtueshine9223]

Sometimes I wish ths apostles would talk as boldly as they did back then. Everyone gets too offended today. But truth is so beautiful to the righteous and this is such a powerful message.

[@NonPremiumID]

Your comment offended me! Lol, just joking. I agree, I like how they used to talk, back in the day.

[@borgnyo]

I thought the very same.

[@mjwells100]

I have had this thought every time I watch talks given in the past! They weren’t afraid to speak boldly; sometimes I wish they would do that today, but your comment about people taking offense so easily rings true to me. We have become so darn sensitive today. It’s sad.

[@user-in1wz7zb6f]

I have just joined the Lds church and i wish i had joined years ago i would have had a better life

[@bigyeet8252]

I never realized what a blessing it has been to have been born into the restored gospel of Jesus Christ and have such loving parents until my teenage years now. I’m so happy that Christ’s gospel has blessed your life. Thank for your words, they really helped me remember how blessed I really am even when I think I might not be.

[@doraho1667]

Elder Petersen spoke with power and authority...Amen

[@neilreid9005]

A marvelous and truthful testimony and instruction. I add my amen to Elder Peterson’s instruction.

[@lindamoses3697]

How grateful I am for Adam and Eve and their example and the restored gospel of Jesus Christ.

[@wallybrown9509]

I love going back and listening to the true prophets and apostles from when I was a kid, and listening to their testifying of truth, and witnessing to the world what is real. Amen Elder Peterson.

[@guardianangel9517]

You ever listen to Elder Holland

[@theephraimite]

I like the way he speaks. More importantly, great message. Sunday - November 29, 2020.

[@Motlatsi]

So much power & spirit with boldness speak Elder Petersen.

[@EvangelineMunda]

Awesome and powerful talk.

[@josephpacetexas]

Cool talk. It's good to be on the right side of things. And all are invited to join us.

[@tacticplanner7188]

Truth is an amazing thing, our spirits seem to leap out of our chests in response to those things that are recognized eternal revelation.

[@KclaudioLeadership]

12.13.2020 AWESOME!!! Beautiful message, thank you Elder Petersen 🙏💯

[@EphraimFootball]

I love his passion!!!

[@siilatacollins154]

Our HEAVENLY FATHER, can't have Jesus Christ and us all, in the PRE MORTAL LIFE, without our BELOVED HEAVENLY MOTHER.

[@yeboscrebo4451]

My greatest admiration of Adam is in his life patterned after Christ. Just as Christ came down to save his bride (us) from certain and eternal destruction, Adam left the garden to save his bride eve from eternal destruction as a result of her decision to be disobedient. Adam is a type of Christ.

[@happylatter-daysaint3503]

This is wonderful!! I have heard people believe in the Adam/God theory. This makes it clear!! Thank you for sharing!! ❤❤❤

[@SmokeDiv3r888]

What is that theory?

[@caseykaelin9430]

@@SmokeDiv3r888 In a nut shell it is that Adam is our god.

[@moreandmorehistory3717]

Oh well we don’t believe that

[@kimberlyolsen9416]

At the time he gave this talk there was a big Adam/God theory movement in the church. Many people were privately reprimanded, and then Elder Peterson gave this talk! Some people were really really angry! He was so clear and concise! I miss his voice!

[@williambramhall446]

1980...Elder Peterson!!!

[@garyharris1932]

Mark E. Peterson.

[@kellymcdonald1895]

Fascinating!

[@Ixlikexturnips]

Bro. They didnt play during Kimball's time. Holy smokes!

[@CrossFitTRG]

And also the time when the church has most growth.

[@FromAgonyToLight]

@@CrossFitTRG I would theorize that in the Millennial reign of Jesus Christ, the Church will have the most growth of all time.

[@mtpspublishinghub1876]

The Adamic covenant and the adamic doctrine which teach them to use the adamic languages. And develop the Adamic system of farming that created the system of life longetivity.

[@Gandalfthegreat.28]

Amen

[@Wonderboywonderings]

You've seen Dallin H. Oaks, but have you seen Mark E. Petersen? 😂

[@yellowyosh470]

🙌🤣

[@kathrynhathaway5145]

He was a good man

[@darkodragoslavicrajskiotok7947]

💥♥️💥♥️💥♥️💥♥️💥♥️💥♥️💥

[@4pinky2011]

"A-M-E-N"

[@debfryer2437]

Still true! All of it.

[@DavidWhite-eh3wu]

Wasn't born when this was given. However doesn't mean that it is not true.... So 👍

[@johnnyburns1466]

Paul in Hebrews speaks of God, Angel's and Christ which according to D&C 129 are all Angel's. Michael is the Archangel meaning the head of all of them. Michael is subservient to His God who is subservient to His God ad infinitum.

[@josephwennsho1384]

is this an official channel of the church???

[@rapache1]

Yes

[@peeupgaming9976]

Yes is, but there's the church's channel name after the church and then another church channel that's named after the church's name but for the Pacific Ocean area

[@vonsowards1297]

Sons of Michael, He Approaches

[@boraboy4ever]

When was this given?

[@teancum2011]

1980

[@lateshastephens9343]

Anybody know the date of this talk?

[@motherbug2001]

this was a good talk

[@Saint_nobody]

October 1980

[@xirtus]

so is this doctrine?

[@NonPremiumID]

What year was this talk given?

[@Saint_nobody]

October 1980

[@semmyngoue3317]

7777 views , - 13/05/2019 3:43 , SydneyAustralia

[@PapaKryptoss]

19,688 views 05/25/2020. Houston Texas

[@danielclingen34]

Missouri is a little far from the Tigris and Euphrates stated in the bible, Two of the four rivers that flowed from the supposed garden.

[@richardbarrow4620]

It sounds like Elder Peterson is refuting the Adam God Doctrine.

[@roughout]

Adam is Michael the Ark Angel, next in authority to Jesus Christ, the third person mentioned in the creation of the Earth. Adam was the first man and remains in charge of the spirits of all men. Remains an Angel, the chief of the angels, and will take active part until the final completion of the activities of the Earth. Of course Adam is not God the Father, nor is he Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God.

[@zon3665]

God is an Angel. See D&C section 129

[@michaelciccone2194]

Is there are teleprompter hidden on the podium? This sermon seemed scripted.

[@teancum2011]

Look at the wide shots. Off to either side of the pulpit, a couple of feet in front of it, are two glass squares held up on black metal poles about the thickness of mic stands, those are the teleprompter screens screens.

[@dddphilosophy]

D&C 129:1-3 1 THERE are two kinds of beings in heaven, namely: Angels, who are resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones- 2 For instance, Jesus said: Handle me and see, for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 3 Secondly: the spirits of just men ... Acts 23:8,9 ... neither angel, nor spirit: ... 9... We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel... The distinction between the two, spirits and [resurrected beings] angels has been around at least since Biblical times. Hence, was Michael an arch-spirit or an archangel?

[@later4524]

I think archangel is also a title; one that is given to the first mortal man on this earth. I think it is important to note that D&C's definition of an angel was given AFTER Christ's resurrection, because Christ was to be the first fruits of resurrection (or as restated in 1Cor 15:20 - "... now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept."). After the resurrection of Christ, Adam became an angel matching the description found in D&C.

[@zon3665]

According to Petersen Michael would have been an Arch-Spirit not an Archangel. Petersen doesn't address the doctrine that Michael taking on the title of Adam was immortal prior to partaking of the fruit which brought death or mortality.

[@zon3665]

Also the Pearl of Great Price teaches that being created of the dust of the earth is by the birth process; which entails mortality (Moses 6:59). Since Michael was immortal prior to taking on the title Adam he must of been born elsewhere not upon this earth. That is scriptural and not "theory." If Michael was born on another earth and was resurrected to become immortal, and had the privilege of creating an earth (our earth) he must be a God. Again thats scriptural not "theory." Christ taught in John 5:21 that His Father has power over death. It is clear that Petersen is ignoring a lot of scripture in his primary level discourse on Adam.

[@jumpieva]

When was this actual talk? Not 5 years ago...

[@mcxopjesh]

1980

[@richardredick7515]

So, if the man Adam was already Michael the Archangel prior to being placed on this earth, when did he, previously, pass through his mortal probation, and receive a glorified, resurrected body, and all of the powers of a chief angel? I understand that Elder Pettersen is combatting Adam-God in this address, but the second he said that Jesus was already God Jehovah, and Adam was already the chief angel, it was check mate.

[@jaysonboutron3957]

Richard Redick ummm.....nope. Adam is/was the ArchAngel Michael before the earth was created and even helped Jesus (Jehovah) create the earth - it was called the Pre-Existence. We all existed as spirits before coming to earth. When it was done...(the earth), then Michael's spirit was put into a body and he became Adam. After he died he probably was resurrected when Christ (Jehovah) broke the bands of death and was resurrected, along with other choice spirits up to that point in human history.

[@zon3665]

@@jaysonboutron3957 I think you are missing the point Jayson. D&C section 129 states that Angels are resurrected beings. Michael in taking on the title of an Adam was immortal prior to partaking the fruit. Immortal beings are resurrected beings.

[@FromAgonyToLight]

@@zon3665 You can't be resurrected without dying first. Disobeying God by partaking of the forbidden fruit did cause spiritual death, and eventual physical death, but Adam and Eve were not resurrected yet.

[@BigMikeyVee]

So evolution isn’t true?

[@scottrappleye3560]

No. It is not.

[@yellowyosh470]

You'll have to study and figure that out for yourself between you and God. I think the concept of evolution is correct, all living organisms adapt to their environment and evolve. Maybe God used evolution to create Adam and Eve, since to him the concept of time is much much different then our perception of time on earth. I personally feel that these principles of Adam being the first human can be true, and the concept of evolution can be accepted at the same time. That's my personal opinion, but I respect any one else's. In the end of it all, we will understand and know everything. To be honest I don't think it matters too much though, I think how we live our lives and what we do matters more then knowing how something happened billions of years ago.

[@jonahlarsen9664]

The church has no stance, nor does it need to take one. As far as I'm concerned the science seems pretty dang solid that it's true. And I am perfectly comfortable in my faith, while also accepting solid scientific evidence

[@krsbeln23]

@@jonahlarsen9664 There is, just search for it in the institute manual.

[@jonahlarsen9664]

@@krsbeln23 the only reference I can find in the institute manual is a quote from president kimball saying that we do not know by what means adam and eve were created, but if there is more i would love to read it if you could give me the reference

[@misfyresalot]

great info but...can't help notice the difference between these older guys and the ones now. They felt the need to speak rather "harshly" or in a gruff manner as opposed to the gentle way the brethren speak now. No wonder I didn't listen as a kid!

[@squishmallowgaming7604]

I love his powerful way of speaking!

[@DrJustenWatkins]

Who would reject a gift of God because of the package it’s wrapped in? So did the Jews reject the Savior because of his outward expression which was offensive to them at the time.

[@michaelpetersen2369]

You really have it all reflected in a different light. You turn every one into victims of a god that only understands obedience. Christ is a language of love, far different from the god of the old testimant. What happened to the unchanging god every one is suppose to believe in?

[@kristy3539]

No one is a "Victim" of God. Gods greatest gift is the agency to choose our path for ourself

[@Sixalienasa]

Obedience is the First Law of Heaven.

[@anadlm9028]

Obedience is an act of Love towards a God, A Father who wants to keep us from suffering the consequences of our sins. He loves us more than we could ever understand. That even when we sin because of our lack of understanding, we can be forgiven through repentance and the blood of Christ. The key is to understand humility because we understand His power over death, both physical and spiritual death.

[@Motlatsi]

Sorry you feel that way Michael. Have you come of your own to see and start your own spiritual quest about this church?

[@scottrappleye3560]

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments." Christ taught love and obedience go hand in hand. The are inseparable.

[@johnnyburns1466]

Sorry Petersen Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are not false teachers. Shame on you for saying so.

[@darrisellis8810]

You don't understand the context in which Brigham and Joseph spoke. Adam can also be a title like Elias or Messiah. Any Man who was the first of all men on a sphere like ours is called Adam. The first woman is always called Eve. It is likely that Our Father in Heaven during His mortal probation was the first of HIS FATHERS sons to start the process of humanity on his earth. Thus in this way the title Adam can be another name for many, many other exalted beings who served in such capacities. In this respect all three testimonies of these three men are in perfect Harmony with one another.

[@FromAgonyToLight]

@@darrisellis8810 Amen.

[@peeupgaming9976]

Joseph Smith and Brigham Young although great and wonderful men they were prone to make mistakes. They're not perfect they're not The Master Teacher who is Jesus Christ. Brigham Young caught that Adam is God the Adam God theory which is false. Just because Prophets are Prophets doesn't mean they're always prophesying. They have their own understandings and their own views on the world.