Adamesh stage 1&2 Jaguar. xk8 install completed Part 6. Including first start up.

[@ODRModurol]

John, you are a HOOLIGAN !!! Love it, regards Damian

[@ToTheGarage]

Thanks Damian😁

[@garyvanremortel5218]

I'm reporting him to the MOT.

[@t.alanblain6313]

I know that it is said that size isn't everything, BUT after I fitted my new system my 'Silly Grin' was bigger than your 'Silly Grin' !

[@ToTheGarage]

The 'Silly Grin' is a brilliant unit of measure and should be used on all our Jag Mods. The 5 star rating system is so yesterday. 😁😁😁😁😁

[@alastairdimech2436]

Hello John, I can't find the link to the more manley M8 Band Claps you used on the exhaust. Thanks in advance.

[@louisgrillo9218]

Sounds great John! It's details that make the difference, and your's have elevated the job. Very nice!

[@ToTheGarage]

Thanks 👍

[@mudplugging]

Nothing is over the top, when you're working with shiny stuff.

[@ToTheGarage]

True😁

[@oscarfergus]

Congratulations, love it!

[@ToTheGarage]

Thanks Michael

[@stevebass3992]

Sounds great John. Thanks for the mention on the calendar. Looking forward to the sound comparison tests

[@ToTheGarage]

A Pleasure Steve. Always great to have a picture of my friends cars around when I get messages from them👍

[@williamnichols1615]

From the Space Coast of Florida, USA- Great job and great sound!!

[@ToTheGarage]

Thanks William

[@stevenslight2607]

What a fantastic video John. The sound of thunder Now I must get my xkr done. I’m just worried about the droning sound at cruise speed. So can’t wait for your sound check. 👍👍

[@ToTheGarage]

Staring at the hammering rain out of the back window at the moment. Boooo😔 But I will get to it as soon as possible Steven👍

[@cannonball9478]

Fantastic sound 👍

[@Ridley2907]

Nice one John. Sounds great. Like me, everyone will now hear you coming 😀

[@ToTheGarage]

😁😁😁😁😁😁

[@garyvanremortel5218]

No, but they will hear him going...

[@oaktree3278]

Well John, what can one say, another pro job and boy she sounds awesome. I got tingles! Took me back to when I first heard mine after the uprated work. Definately the best sounding car out there, said that for some time now. With this system in place, the noise, for want of a better word!, deservedly matches the car and what a machine these Jags really are and so deserve to breath easier and unlease that unmissable monumental growl. Very pleased for you, good drive needed now, weather permitting of course, take care. 😊

[@ToTheGarage]

Thank you Andrew. Its interesting how automotive tastes have changed. With the XJS and XJ8 practically muted to silence. But the F Type V8 (a much evolved relative of our V8 engines) is allowed to shout quite freely.

[@Therighteousone522]

Agree with you on the bands on the tailpipe trims. Far better than the original set up. Enjoyable series of videos john. No rush!

[@ToTheGarage]

Glad you enjoyed them Robert.

[@liverpoolscottish6430]

@@ToTheGarage Greetings John! Great informative video- most excellent! I recently bought a mint 1997 Antigua blue XK8, it's believed to be THE car that Jaguar used at the 1997 Earls Court Motor Show. It came with a Stage 1 Adamesh system. Needless to say, as a diehard petrolhead, I'm contemplating installing the Stage 2 kit. Bearing in mind that the standard system is so restrictive, did you notice any performance improvement from fitting the Stage 2 system Mark? I'm assuming that throttle response is slightly better now- less back pressure. I've heard claims that the combined Stage 1 & 2 system releases up to 15-20 Bhp. Have you noticed any improvement post fitting your exhaust? Many thanks! :)

[@robertstarbuck9597]

Good information and videos!

[@ToTheGarage]

Thanks!

[@UdoIBress]

I hope to get my brake discs this week. Then I'll tell you how my work is going. Nice to see how happy you are about the new exhaust

[@ToTheGarage]

Thanks Udo. Hope you enjoy fitting your EBC's

[@Dave-in-France]

Literally laughing out loud, when you revved her up - just gorgeous.

[@ToTheGarage]

Its pure joy in aural form isn't it David😁. Glad you enjoyed it too👍

[@bernardpullon4632]

Ditto, I felt like celebrating with you!

[@garyvanremortel5218]

Long after the rest of the car rusts into oblivion, the pipes will live on. A thing of beauty and a joy forever.

[@ToTheGarage]

Too right sir. And next year I will have to get some bits of body work attended to just to prove it! These cars are so beautiful that I can forgive the rust though. (Just😁)

[@jeffpollard7304]

John, excellent video and excellent result! I like you, used to love to 'fiddle' but am too old now and this is a job I would have loved to have taken on. The sound accomplished, is perfect!! Mine is a 2010 XKR, love the car but MY age is slowing me down. Keep up the good work, I'm living through you!!

[@ToTheGarage]

Hi Jeff. Thanks for the kind words. Me and you are doing the bushes soon. I will wave the spanners. You supervise via the comments😁👍👍

[@kevincuckow7226]

Lovely sound.. will definitely get one fitted pre mot

[@ToTheGarage]

Go for it Kev

[@wademason1851]

Hi John, great video, again. I have just fitted the stage 1 adamesh system and that sounds good, the stage 2 might be a bit to much for me, lol.

[@davidread1817]

sounds awesome john :)

[@ToTheGarage]

Thanks David

[@tamsonsbairn8833]

Your right john, it was a head gasket he had been told , he put a bottle of some sort, he had to leave the gin running for a while and when he tested it again it seemed to have fixed his problem,

[@NewMusic-wj2fr]

sounds amazing, definitely can see the kid coming out at the end lol

[@ToTheGarage]

🤗 thanks. My inner kid is never far from the surface 👍

[@omarr6021]

thank you for the video ,,, now i know that i need to do stage 2

[@ToTheGarage]

Sorry Omar. I think I have cost a lot of people, all of their pocket money😁

[@omarr6021]

@@ToTheGarage money well spent 😂

[@Punisher9419]

I am convinced. I will get mine done this year I should think.

[@ToTheGarage]

Excellent news. Something to look forward to in this 2nd weird year👍

[@oldjaaag9804]

John, please don't feel the need to justify the time this job has taken - especially as it is your hobby and not your day job. I for one am grateful that you do these videos at all and each one helps me improve my XK8. Keep up the good work - at your pace!

[@ToTheGarage]

Thank you very much for the kind and much appreciated words Old Jaaag👍

[@nigelawrencexkr]

Hi John ,when you coming to canada to fit one on my xk8? Lol! Love it, good job mate!

[@ToTheGarage]

Maybe one day!

[@bruceboucher2134]

Great stuff

[@ToTheGarage]

Thanks Bruce

[@bruceboucher2134]

Always a pleasure

[@2.fresh767]

The delicate sound of thunder.

[@ToTheGarage]

ooooo. yeaah😁

[@multicyclist]

Got to like that!

[@ToTheGarage]

thank you👍

[@UdoIBress]

Hi ... John, congratulations on this video and a great job. the notes to the clamps are perfect, unfortunately too late for me. My Stage 2 is already installed. Thanks for the good work

[@ToTheGarage]

Did you install your own Udo or was it a garage?. (I think you have already told me, but I forgot😔)

[@UdoIBress]

@@ToTheGarage yeah ...I installed Stage 2 under the vehicle. in my own garage, without a large lifting platform. it was'nt easy. but have taken the clamp from Adamesh. the better ones are the band clamps.

[@harryscott2768]

Hi John. Nice job indeed, although I hope the half round file and internal grinding stone you used on the tail pipe sections have never been used on anything other than stainless steel ...otherwise the resulting bi- metal corrosion will spread fast...!My heart was in my mouth watching you cut the sections with your freehand so close to the unprotected cutting disc!....thank god no injuries.....great sound!...who needs internal music?

[@ToTheGarage]

Thanks Harry. Didn't really think about ferrous contamination from the file. I will go check my tail pipes👍

[@jplt829]

Was thinking doing the update. But I really like how my XK8 is discrete. Have a friend who has a maserati ghibli and when he showed me his car in the garage, I was like: what that noise; he can’t just leave his flat in the middle of the night, he would awake all his neighbors haha. Just wondering if I will like that noise coming from my jag or not. Maybe I m too old school despite my age (40) ;-)

[@ToTheGarage]

Obviously I was provoking it in those shots. It can still be surprisingly serene. But wait until my full sound check video before making your decision, and finally remember that Jaguar ‘Stealth Power’ is a fantastic thing too. There are no bad decisions here JPT👍😁

[@karlfuller4072]

Love your videos John, thanks so much for your great work. One quick question, on the stage 1 short sections, did you say you'd cut a 1" section off tge pipe to aid fitting. Apologies if I've missed it on one of the episodes in the series or comments.

[@paulsmith7133]

Brilliant video John Thanks. I want to fit this to my 2001 XKR. One question, does the conversation cause any problems when getting the next MOT? Please keep doing what you do so we’ll :)

[@alanmilton8056]

Amazing growler, well done John ! Interestingly, I have similar oval tail pipe trims on my car, were they an OEM option as mine certainly does not growl ?

[@ToTheGarage]

A slightly larger oval than that fitted to my earlier car was fitted to some later XK8's but never this style or size. (quad pipes on some XKR's too) If its welded on and open on the forward facing end, then it is probably a later O.E. back box. If its the same as mine then (12.5 cm the width across the oval) the someone has possibly fitted the better after market tips to the standard system

[@stun9771]

On the subject of ‘ringing the bell’ on YT...I had the bell set to get all of your videos in my notifications box...but tonight after watching a couple of other videos in my notifications box, I scrolled through the ‘home’ page and saw you had released a new video.... so watched it...at the end you reminded viewers to ‘hit the bell’, and though hhmmmm...odd I didn’t get a notification, so exited YT and then went back in...as sometimes doing this then brings up notifications issued whilst watching something else...and nothing....nada... so run your video again, as it was in front of me on the screen...checked the bell...and noticed that it was NOT RUNG...now I didn’t do that...so what happened...does YT do this...it’s not the first time this has happened either...it’s happened with several other channels I watch over a period of about 6 months or so...!! Any ideas... By the way, nice job John, looking very good, and the growl will probably sound even better when the cars on the deck...PS...surprised you didn’t get the micrometer out to check the position of those tail end pipes...lol...

[@ToTheGarage]

I suspect ( but don’t know) there is a limit on the number of channels they can/will notify you on. Eg the last 20 you clicked the bell on? There is an issue Plenty of folk are finding it and on lots of channels, not just mine Stay safe John

[@MickMacSpoz]

Been loving the videos. Purchased my 1st 1999 XK8 yesterday! Been offered an extended 12 month warranty for £200. Is it even worth it based on it NOT covering “items which have come to the end of their natural lives”??

[@MELVYNBULL]

Probably not, far to many get out clauses for my liking....

[@MickMacSpoz]

@@MELVYNBULL think I’ll put the money against a Stage 2.

[@ToTheGarage]

I have a weird relationship with any form of insurance. (which in effect is what extended warranties are) If you pay it and don't need it,. You Lose. If you Pay it and need it but its not covered, You lose. If you pay it and you need it and it is covered then you win! except you have to remember to deduct your initial stake (I mean Fee) from your winnings. So You always lose unless they payout more than twice the fee🤔 And how does a part fail by coming to an UNATURAL end of life.

[@MickMacSpoz]

@@ToTheGarage A very philosophical outlook and explanation. 🙏🏼 Think I’ll give it a miss. By the way if you could recommend a specialist close to NW6 who could do an inspection and report I’d be forever grateful! Obviously I purchased before considering this. 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️. Keep up the good work John.

[@ToTheGarage]

@@MickMacSpoz Anyone nearer to London care to Advise Mick on a good independent who knows the X100 well? im afraid my advice would have you driving to see mr Mugglestone at Antons Gowt👍 Only 250 miles or so😁

[@Musicatez]

What about the torque loss due to „less resistance“ in the exhaust system? I heard also some people saying the Fuel consumption raised also for around 1 liter 🧐

[@ToTheGarage]

If gas velocity is significantly reduced then the Scavenging effect can be lost which can reduce Torque at very Low revs. However we have gone up in bore size only 5 to 8mm in the main. Plus the Cats are the most restrictive element of his cars system anyway. (The Hammered flat pipes aside) So yes its possible that between 650 and 1500 Rpm we have lost a few foot pounds of Torque. However the engine and box will only utilise that range if you are launching the car from a standing start. And only then for the first second or so. Fuel consumption can go the wrong way if you utilise the extra horse power and increased pick up then you can use more fuel. If you drive it exactly as you did previously then there is no way it will use more fuel. The same or less in fact as the engine effort to produce the same power is now reduced.👍

[@tonystark9118]

The M-8 56-59 band exhaust clamps are unavailable at Car Builders Solutions not backordered but unavailable. Do you know who elese might carry these for my exhaust? Thanks!

[@tlpoe222]

Great Videos John, where are you based? Would you consider fitting stage 1 and 2 to my 2002 XK8? You seem to be capable

[@ToTheGarage]

Hi tlpoe222 Im in North East Lincolnshire. Very Flattered, Thank you. But running my real business takes me away from home on an unpredictable pattern. So I struggle to commit to doing what I want when I want on my car. let alone being able to promise anybody else that I will do some spannering for them. (Much as I might like to🤔) When I retire from my day job, I hope to spend a lot more time in the Garage and would welcome friends coming round for a bit of help in return for biscuits and Beers. Where are you based? Maybe myself or one of our fellow subscribers can recommend someone knowledgable and reasonable near you.

[@nrick6800]

Excellent ! I’m curious to know how much hp do you save doing that modification, even knowing that it is not your first objective. I’ve done a dyno test to my XKR, it have an Arden exhaust line (an equivalent to the Adamesh stage 2, without the stage 1) and the result has just surprised me ... 398 hp (instead of the original 375 hp with stock exhaust) with absolutely no other modification !

[@ToTheGarage]

I Know! Its amazing how much those crushed overall pipes affect the HP. My previous XK8 gained 18Hp at the wheels following a Stage 2 only install (I already had stage 1 on before the first Dyno run.) XKR's are obviously going to feel the restriction more as they are capable of pumping more gasses down the pipes in the first place. But as you say Hp was not my goal, It was always the sound and the quicker pick up. So I won't be doing any Dyno tests with Purdey

[@liverpoolscottish6430]

@@ToTheGarage Greetings John, I bought a 97 plate XK8 in Sept 22, it came with the Stage 1 Adamesh rear silencers. It sounds very nice. I'm contemplating fitting the Stage 2 system to eradicate the crush pipes. You reference a previous car gaining 18 Hp with both Adamesh stages fitted? Was that a 4.0 car, or a 4.2? Did you notice any improvement in throttle response with the reduction in back pressure on the engine?

[@iangilbert2415]

Evening John

[@ToTheGarage]

👍

[@swansong007]

I wonder how many xk8 were built in the time that exhaust took to fit ?

[@ToTheGarage]

42

[@roylythgoe8537]

You little Petrol Head you just like the rest of us who enjoy your video's, Im still at stage one and was wondering how it would cost to go for stage two on my xkr

[@ToTheGarage]

Hi Roy About £250 per stage (1 or 2) plus the cost of fitting last time I looked👍

[@roylythgoe8537]

@@ToTheGarage Thanks John, I think I and maybe others would liked to seen the up and overs that you you took off so we could see the difference.

[@patromer0126]

John, thank you for your helpful videos. Could you share tips on how to remove the globe compartment on 2005 Jaguar XK8 CONVERTIBLE. Need to see the hinges location 🤔

[@ToTheGarage]

I will try!

[@patromer0126]

Hi John I figured out. Unfortunately I didn't take a photo

[@alanjones1759]

Hi, Can I ask a quick question about the adamesh exhaust, I have been reading comments saying performance is actually down on standard exhaust, and it looses a lot of back pressure causing loss of low end torque any comments to help me decide I'm doing the right thing please and if stage 1 is worth it or best to get stage 2, thanks I know nothing about it.

[@ToTheGarage]

Technically the gas velocity through the Stage 2 (over axle pipe) will be lower on the adamesh which may reduce torque at revs just above idle. This may marginally reduce scavenging effects and result in a fractionally less dense intake charge. However the gain to be had as revs pick up in terms of increased ability to flow gas and generate BHP will more than compensate. So in summary. 0-15mph may suffer but 15-155 will improve. Im very aware of the science Alan, but im not equipped to test the effect, so please take all of the above with a pinch of salt. I fitted mine primarily for the oral improvement. Im personally happy that the overall package now has less compromises in it.

[@alanjones1759]

@@ToTheGarage no that's perfect im not really after performance as its good as it is, i simply want the v8 grumble,

[@tamsonsbairn8833]

Hi John, I was watching another channel where the guy had a jaguar, I can’t remember the model it was an early model. He reckoned the car was leaking into his diaphragm and he bought a bottle of something to add to his car and that should help repair the fault. It seemed to work for him but I was alarmed that his exhaust was blowing white smoke out of the exhaust, I have bought a second hand jaguar xf and I notice my car does this when waiting at crossings. Is there anything to be worried about. Regards. Francis. Jablonski.

[@ToTheGarage]

Hi Francis Is yours a V8 XF? When you say diaphragm. I think im struggling with your choice or words? Do you mean head gasket? There is a diaphram in the brake servo and some would say there are diaphrams in the Fuel pump Thermostat Cruise control system. But I dont think you meant any of them. White smoke normally means steam. Its common for quite a lot to be emitted on colder days until the engine and exhaust are fully warm. It can be a sign of a blown head gasket or very rarely a split/cracked head. If its a petrol turbo or a diesel then their are other possibilities too.

[@garyvanremortel5218]

When are you going to do the gun rack install?

[@ToTheGarage]

A pen rack is more likely😁

[@chrismillar6404]

How much are the stage No. 1 & 2 mufflers to buy just for material ? Approx.

[@ToTheGarage]

Adamesh charge around £250 per stage. Originals are about £500 plus per stage (if yo can find them)