Adding Trailer Ramp Springs

[@howardtoob]

Great job.

[@readplanet23]

Thank You for the informative and educational video. I see a lot of great ideas for improvements to utility trailers. Have A Great Day! 🛻

[@michaelbradford2816]

Thank you. Glad it helped you.

[@The_mare_stare]

That’s amazing and will help with my drop gate on vintage horse trailer

[@michaelbradford2816]

Good to know. It's funny how a small change can be huge in the field especially when dealing with an 1100lb animal! Take care.

[@mikepalmer6655]

Thank you for the idea. We have enclosed trailers with ramp with the poorly designed torsion spring/cable system. Every 6 mo. or so I am repairing the system where someone runs into it with a piece of equipment. I am looking to either sell all the existing trailers and convert to the torsion spring trailers with the torsion springs at the hinge of the ramp door. Any ideas for converting? Any and all ideas welcome. Thx.

[@michaelbradford2816]

One design I really like but could not get to involves putting a leaf spring under the trailer that works with a roller on the outer edge of the gate. It's a tough looking setup, but has to be designed from the ground up. I never liked the cylinder/chain or cable either. There are heavier coil springs by the way that could do somewhat the same function as the leaf spring. I don't have another trailer to experiment with or I probably would be attempting something new. Good to hear from you and please be careful with springs.

[@terrycannon8590]

Will you please send me a link where you about to torch the springs? I would love to do this to the lift gate

[@ryanclark5375]

Can u send me a link to purchase those springs please. Thank u

[@enzoorciuoli328]

i cant fine dem springs

[@trenthearl1343]

Micheal Bradford i think you have the springs around the wrong way. I would say the long arm of the spring is pre designed to take more load of the tailgate, as it comes down it slides up further thus taking less weight as it binds up. Which ironically reduces the force exerted on the spring as it binds up. Thoughts or am i wrong?

[@enzoorciuoli328]

long arm lever two me, on dah load

[@dinofontana9242]

Where did you purchase the springs? A very clean modification.

[@michaelbradford2816]

horsetraileraccessory store

[@richardmiller3781]

what is the length of the spring and the lbs it will handle? Thanks for your reply.

[@michaelbradford2816]

The length is about six inches and will fit a 3/4" bolt. I'm unsure of the exact loading for distortion, but it must be fairly high. I'd estimate at least 300 lbs. These don't fail. Severe cooling could be not so good, however. That's when springs are the most challenged.

[@sevanson1]

how much did that 'slot' in your frame weaken it? re enforcement on the way? what size lawnmower are you using that 3" is an issue?

[@michaelbradford2816]

It didn't weaken anything. I fixed that years back. It was an experiment ongoing. That ramp can take far more than the trailer which itself was a prototype, like everything else I put on YT. I estimate that a small tractor would be supported, but then, there are other better designs too. I'd make that big gate a fold-over the next time if I had it to do again. Mainly I wanted the ramp to be totally able to fold over onto the bed and have a spring loaded let down like I demonstrated. Some on-the-spot re-engineering was necessary. I wanted that included because that's how I build up things. If I were in business to do this, I'd have a customer base by now. Most of the trailers I see are pathetically weak in the gates unless they are very large trailers for thousands and thousands of dollars. They are made to a cost schedule that doesn't include what I can build. Some special equipment is too valuable to put on any bargain trailers, as you know. Thanks for your comment today. Be sure to check your tire pressure.

[@sevanson1]

thanks for the conversation. I completely understand the “design/build” process! That allows best ideas to become incorporated! AGAIN! NICE video!

[@michaelbradford2816]

Thank you.

[@terrycannon8590]

Where did you get the torson springs to do the ramp with?

[@michaelbradford2816]

horsetraileraccessorystore.com

[@john52chesser40]

Say the trailer is parked on a higher patch of land than we’re the the gate would lay down, if it goes to far would those bent springs not slip and get caught on the bottom of the trailer?

[@frankperry1543]

Great video! I'm going to use your design.

[@michaelbradford2816]

Thank you

[@jeffdiehl8483]

Can you please also send me or post the link to buy these springs?

[@michaelbradford2816]

No links allowed here, but just Google it.

[@bretneyman5577]

Where are you get ion your springs and how much?

[@michaelnaylor6538]

What item number are the springs and where did you get them. I cant find that type

[@michaelbradford2816]

horsetraileraccessorystore Part Number:RASHM112

[@cfpau]

You should put a bracket on the mesh to prevent the spring from ripping it.

[@michaelbradford2816]

It's pretty tough as is.

[@tiktokdancecomplimation8818]

Where did you buy the spring at and what is its rating for pounds?

[@michaelbradford2816]

At horsetraileraccessorystore Not sure of rating, but more than you could burn through, however. Be careful with any bending or alterations. Avoid heating.

[@hectorcalderon3011]

Please include links when you're showing us something you use we might want to get one too

[@joefarmer4238]

Seriously ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ please 🙏

[@wangometango]

Where did you find the 3/4" shaft springs? I can't find them.

[@michaelbradford2816]

I believe those were at horsetraileraccessory store all one word on the Internet. I can't put a url here since it's not allowed. There should be other sources. Oh yeah, the virus probably has curtailed production of things. Forgot about that. There are fewer supplies of things for now. I have nothing to sell or for sale. Look at trailer suppliers. Someone hopefully will get back to you.

[@stevehicks8314]

where do you buy your springs?

[@michaelbradford2816]

horsetraileraccessorystore.com They don't know me. Maybe they should?

[@beaustjohn2342]

What is the brand name of these springs? Where can i buy them please? Thanx beau

[@michaelbradford2816]

No brand. Just Google it. I did.

[@stephencooper4987]

The only thing that I don't like is the spring end sticking out even though it's rounded off. Kind of like the the hitch sticking out of the receiver on your pickup. Good video though.

[@davidsullins3700]

he solves that at the end of the vid. its most the vid

[@minersfromutah8000]

Where do I get those springs?????

[@michaelbradford2816]

horsetraileraccessorystore.com Note: I don't do it for ad money. I get nothing.

[@justindrake6161]

By cutting a slot for the spring, you lost most of the strength of the gate at that lateral

[@michaelbradford2816]

No. It's a heavy box.

[@rickwartman956]

@@michaelbradford2816 Justin is correct. If you don't think you reduced the strength of the angle when you cut the notch for the spring in it then you don't understand engineering.

[@michaelbradford2816]

Neither of you saw the final result, so it is you who don't understand. It works well and I don't see any examples of your work either, by the way. Beyond that, I offer my experimental results to minds that profit from such. Simply put, if you can't appreciate actual results then it's probably results you didn't need, want or cared for. If you'd care to put on any of your actual work for evaluation some time, please know that the door is wide open for you on such a forum as this. I wish you well in whatever you attempt. Let's all look forward to your superior knowledge of engineering too. It'll be wonderful to behold I'm quite sure.

[@markthompson4141]

Why didn't you show how you got all the stuff off the spring end before you completed the bend ?

[@michaelbradford2816]

Hummm. Just got tired I guess?

[@daniellofy8897]

you may want to put a plate behind the spring so it does not wear a hole in the expanded metal

[@michaelbradford2816]

Hmmmm. Well, I had one to do and it's a long time ago, but thanks for the suggestion. If I were needing to produce a number of these, I'd have some other much better set up you can be assured.

[@unrestrainedfamily9356]

How'd you get the 2*4 off?

[@michaelbradford2816]

Broke it.

[@bradwatters1547]

Torch???

[@michaelbradford2816]

Never. That would undo the tempering.

[@bradwatters1547]

@@michaelbradford2816 you already destroyed the temper In that section when you over bent the thing. You must be an engineer with your tools and jig. Just heat it and bend it over. I do this kind of work everyday for 30 years now

[@bretneyman5577]

@@bradwatters1547 where can I order these springs in bulk? And stainless would be a plus

[@bradwatters1547]

@@bretneyman5577 Try global industrial or McMaster Carr. Grainger has them , not sure about bulk

[@charliepowers5265]

Not real smart guy. I don't have a lathe setting around to make tools to bend a made product.

[@jeanuytico6233]

Looks like there could be another easier way with less time but thanks

[@michaelbradford2816]

Yes. However, I wanted something that isn't available or even discussed. That extra tail comes in handy for a heavy gate where space is at somewhat a premium. My work is usually overkill, so don't worry. It probably won't be repeated by anyone. One thing it does show, however, is that the spring may still be worked cold without damaging it. My gate is really too heavy, but now it won't slam to ground.

[@flintknapper6039]

OMG.....just cut off the excess. It lends nothing to the function when left long. You just need enough to contact the angle iron well. And weld a solid piece of metal on the bracket where you presently have the spring end pressing against expanded metal.

[@michaelbradford2816]

That comment has come in before. However, I had a special need that the extended tail fulfilled. Not everything is always the same. I could have ordered a short tailed spring cheaper if that's all I had wanted.

[@papalilburn]

Underpowered springs!

[@michaelbradford2816]

No

[@gregkennedy9333]

Why didn’t u just cut off excess material

[@michaelbradford2816]

The tails were important to me for this design. They provided push back I wanted.

[@ryanclark5375]

Thank u

[@spanky7277]

heat it up until it's red . Bingo

[@michaelbradford2816]

Nope. Temper.

[@bigjohn2810]

@@michaelbradford2816

[@russellgnuse]

You just weaking the ramp with that slot

[@michaelbradford2816]

Not really.

[@jonwallace7015]

Should see me