Adepta Sororitas Tier List. Post-December Balance Patch

[@TheWolfwoodArmy]

No matter how bad things get. Just remember. The Emperor Protects.

[@adamstilber8382]

Sacresants were my first Sisters unit I bought. I have run them in every game I’ve played so far. They look awesome and perform decently well in casual games.

[@RogueMonk]

Glad to have found this one of yours! It came up after I watched all the older ones :)

[@ArcticFoxFang]

As a new Sisters player and first 40k Army ever, this helps a lot

[@NicholasPickleous]

The meta changes frequently. Don’t let it influence too much what models you’re excited to paint and play.

[@JackDespero]

The Emperor gives the hardest battles to His most loyal sisters. We must be oh so loyal, because it ain't easy out there.

[@jamparke]

Great video! Enjoying your perspective

[@heiroftheredeemer2828]

Since i started my interest in Sisters, i have watched you and heard of your general distaste for Retributors and how they are just ineffective for the cost. But there is something within me that enjoys that and wants to include them in all my lists.

[@OniGanon]

You can, of course, do whatever you like. Just keep in mind... -Space Marine Devastators cost 120pts, can carry Lascannons or Gravcannons, are T4 W2 -Chaos Havocs cost 125pts, can carry Lascannons, and are T5 W2 -Drukhari Scourges cost 130pts, carry Darklances, and can move back into cover after they shoot

[@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber]

good for you. Do what you find fun! And I hope they make their points back for you

[@heiroftheredeemer2828]

@@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber Haha, they will never, but it's my own fun pet unit I will cherish forever. No matter how poorly costed they are, lol

[@JackDespero]

They are a terrible unit. But min maxing is not the goal of the game for everyone. Sometimes you want a thematic army. Sometimes you want a fun army. Sometimes you jsut want to use the models that you have. They are just a unit that you will rarely see in an actual competitive list, and even less now since their cost was based on "multime melta with plenty of MD (which will include many 6s) go BRRRRRR". Basically, you would never see them with heavy bolters, and only during the alignment of Jupiter with the Moon during the Winter's solstice you would see them with heavy flamers. The problem is thatt you do not even have MD now to feed them, so even their multi melta is useless (as it is as effective as that of a sister or dominion, for 2/3 of the cost). This is a design problem that cannot really be solved: With MDs, 1 super cool multi melta with rerolls and bla bla bla is effectively the same as a tiny melta, because the important part is that if you wound, you spend the MD 6 to make 6 damage. And they are both exactly the same at that. The difference is that the Multi melta has more shots, but the melta is attach to a much cheaper unit, so that you can have more bodies. In general, for the same number of effective "wounds": Twin linked < two attacks < two bodies. So it is always better to have two meltas than one multi melta, since you decide to spend the MD only when you know that there is a wound (I don't want to give GW any ideas, but the only way to make a multi melta better than two meltas is having to declare using the MD before making the attacks). On a tangent: IMO, they should really, really make bolter and flamer stand out. Give them a massive boost. Like an extra AP and S to both or something like that. Add one or two extra attacks to the bolter to compensate for not being Torrent. Then at least they will have a very unique role, being the actual heavy weapons team of the army.

[@JackDespero]

@@OniGanon Back in the days, I just look randomly at other "melta unit" and the first one was the Dragon something of the Aeldari. I kid you not that side by side, they were either exactly the same or better at every single stat and rule. And they were almost 50% cheaper! The explanation was "But Celestians can use MD". Which is true, that changes the game of melta from being a normal weapon to "I just need to hit once". But at that point just use normal meltas, as they do exactly the same AP -4 D6 damage. Since you only need to hit once, it is much cheaper and effective to have many meltas than a couple of multimeltas.

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

Sorry to miss the live, needed to catch up on sleep after only getting like 2.5 yesterday. Yeah, the detachment name for SoB is underwhelming and the Miracle Dice nerf is just a pinch to far (maybe make it 1 at the start of the turn again?) still need to finish that Vehicle-themed detachment I was working on, but I have a backlog of other stuff before I can even touch 40K homebrew ATM, and finishing my notating on the grosmas detachments and the dataslate are only a couple of them.

[@Zaerdra]

You mention that proxying Crusaders, is easy, and that celestian sacresancts should have two wounds. Why not just use celestian sacresancts as crusader proxys, and kill two heretics with one stone?

[@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber]

That works!

[@GungHoSourdough]

I pray for the day that Sacresants get a second wound or higher toughness.

[@NicholasPickleous]

Thats really all they need to have a place in the army.

[@Behappyyou43]

You are mt go to for sisters of battle info and strategies. Alot of why I stuck with the army! 5.5k pts so far. But id love to see you get into Daughters of khaine (aos) I think you'll love the vibes!

[@dreddzy3223]

Sacresants should be toughness 4 or 2 wounds each.

[@dreddzy3223]

I am proud to say I was able to out play the new starshatter detachment for the Necrons in a 1k game with champions of faith. Novitiates infiltration with a simulacrum are your friends. to get miracle dice rolling.

[@135forte]

So much of the 'fixes' to 10th seem to be GW remembering why they did certain things in 9th.

[@vladtheimpaler9660]

All hail the battle sisters KZbinr 🙌🏻

[@WoWisdeadtome]

You spelled tear wrong in the title.

[@verushistorie]

hmm.. I wonder if Agents of imperium attached to a battle sister squad can use act of faith..?

[@vxicepickxv]

2:04 Vampire appearance

[@garypr787]

So can Celestine bring back zephyrm is she's leading the unit?

[@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber]

yep, that is what her tears do

[@garypr787]

@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber thanks so much for all the content and information.

[@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber]

happy to help

[@garypr787]

@@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber I am new to Warhammer and started with sisters. Currently looking at collecting because 4 out of the 5 detachments seem very fun. Do you happen to have a video on how to use the daemonifuge? Lone survivor seems good but is a lone jp Canonness do the same thing?

[@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber]

@@garypr787 I do! Here is what Ephrael Stern can do: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqLVdKWfoK2ea7s&ab_channel=40kVtuber%3AChristianVonCarmian

[@myersmayhem2023]

Ill never stop running 10 sacrasancts with a hospitaller They are just the coolest sisters unit They prolly convinced me to play sisters Ill be dreaming for them to become elite

[@savannahbrewer6161]

please make a NO-Penitents list

[@nosbigdamus9665]

MERRY CHRISTMAS You Animal Have a good new year too

[@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber]

Thank you. Merry Christmas to you too

[@josciety5579]

I’m taking this dataslate as an opportunity to pick up the Soulblight Gravelord spearhead to finally get into Sigmar andn Old World

[@HoratioHuffnagel]

I literally picked up the Gravelords spearhead and I’m still mounting and painting it to get into AoS coming from 40k sisters too hahahaha

[@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber]

Vampires! And Spearhead is fun

[@PatrixBest]

Wait so... if I can have Celestine and her Geminae on the field and put wounds on Celestine before the Geminae, does that mean I can deliberately kill Celestine, leaving behind a unit of 2 Geminae, then revive Celestine as her own unit to then herself use healing tears to revive 2 more geminae? Probably not, but the thought is funny.

[@whitefamilliar3057]

This isn't quite how it works. When a character revives as part of a squad, it gets put back into its original unit. So celestine getting killed with both geminae surviving has her joining her original squad with full wounds and 2 companions.

[@PatrixBest]

@@whitefamilliar3057 True, because the Geminae are not a bodyguard unit so they don't split on death

[@whitefamilliar3057]

@PatrixBest this is also how lead units work just so you know. If a cannoness gets sniped from a squad. Then you use the heroic intervention stratagem. If any of the bodyguard units are alive still at the end of the phase. You get added back to your original attached unit.

[@nosbigdamus9665]

Of course I had to go out and drive down to the south to pick up a brother lol Sorry

[@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber]

Merry Christmas to you and your brother

[@glasSpN]

I dont get the hate for sacrecants. They are super tanky with a hospitaller w 10 models. Small guns dont kill them and you dont want to shoot them when there are 3 casticator behind. Their punch is heavy. They were highly contributing in my rt win pre nerv and tanked 3 rounds of abbadon sweeps… in the end 10 models back on the field. Just stage em well in the middle, trade and control…

[@glasSpN]

Ps: since nervs… ouch….