Are Cat Filters Worth The Money? Are Cat Filters Better?

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Adept Ape

Adept Ape

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@rogerkirkpatrick9057
@rogerkirkpatrick9057 3 жыл бұрын
Very good points, I developed an adapter to put a cat filter on a Duramax, and Ford. After many conversations with a cat representative from the filter factory. The reason Cat started to make their own filters was that metal was being left in the filters after manufacture. When you stamp 1000’s of parts the tooling picks up a magnetic properties and transfers that to the parts, they in turn pick up metal fragments and are in the filters during the assembly process. So the filters we’re putting those particles into the engine. In addition to the spiral roving and the acrylic beads the filter is glued to the aluminum threaded insert and then the outer shell is rolled onto the aluminum threaded insert. So no hard metals could enter the oil system from the filter from stamping process. “Longer life through better filtration”.
@jeremybroderick9465
@jeremybroderick9465 2 жыл бұрын
Use the Donaldson Blue filter on your duramax it is the best
@fredg8199
@fredg8199 Жыл бұрын
Tell me what ford engine. Just curious, want to run cat filters in my 6.0.
@rogerkirkpatrick9057
@rogerkirkpatrick9057 Жыл бұрын
It was designed for the ford 6.7.
@fredg8199
@fredg8199 Жыл бұрын
@@rogerkirkpatrick9057 You interested in selling one? Have an ebay account or something?
@rogerkirkpatrick9057
@rogerkirkpatrick9057 Жыл бұрын
@@fredg8199 For the 6.7? I never made anything for the 6.0.
@bundysgarage
@bundysgarage 5 жыл бұрын
"Your engine is yellow, you should have a yellow filter!" Great point, CAT is a great engine!
@shakenbake3107
@shakenbake3107 5 жыл бұрын
I worked for a construction company and every piece of equipment had cat filters on them. The shop foreman loved cat filters
@alexj1773
@alexj1773 5 жыл бұрын
Hey!! My friend long time no see you lol. Good to see you again. In my opinion if my truck work hard without giving me any problems at all and feed my family The least I can do is to treat him the same way by Putting good quality parts, excellent maintenance and a nice wash every week; that way he can be like me super happy when I get my heavy duty pay check 💰 every week because of him.
@John5ive
@John5ive 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Ape, can you do a video on bypass filtration systems? I'm driving myself nuts trying to decide whether to install one or not. Of course there are videos out there but they are from the makers of the systems so of course they are great and worth it. You have a good perspective and don't "sell" anything you explain the merits of something from a fairly neutral position and based upon your experience. Thanks for your channel. Powerstroke owner here. It's not a Cat but it's still a diesel!
@ericwiltz6584
@ericwiltz6584 Жыл бұрын
Did you go with a bypass system, which one and what engine? I have a Duramax with 100K and am looking at a bypass system: Parker, Insane, probably not Amsoil.
@tylerbrown4615
@tylerbrown4615 5 жыл бұрын
I am a new diesel tech and I watch your videos all the time. Good stuff man. Helped me tons and it's very knowledgeable
@ohiopsdfordman
@ohiopsdfordman 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of FleetGaurd "Cummins" is the same as CAT with the Nylon and we have never ever had a failure ever! Use the Filter that comes on your engine from the factory!!! It will never fail you!
@saywhatnow2
@saywhatnow2 5 жыл бұрын
I use only cat filters and Amsoil full synthetic in my 3406e and c15. Oil and filters are cheap, engine is not.
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 5 жыл бұрын
Full synthetic seems unnecessary, only real reason to use it is extended intervals and as you say oil is cheap so no reason to extend the interval. I run regular old rotella on 20k mile drains and the cat oil samples say all is well and the oil is still in excellent condition.
@gumps1986
@gumps1986 5 жыл бұрын
I run Amsoil with their filter for the engine oil. Oil analysis every 10,000 miles. Have a little over 40,000 on my current oil. Cat fuel filters.
@clydeacor1911
@clydeacor1911 5 жыл бұрын
@@gumps1986 It's good that you're getting your oil analysis every 10K my friend bought a new truck and was working in the oilfield and was running Amsoil and Amsoil filters and changed it religiously every 20,000 miles and his engine blew up at 78,000 miles due to oil contamination according to the dealer so warranty wouldn't cover the engine. Just because Amsoil says that their oil keeps its viscosity for so many miles doesn't mean that it can stay clean for that long. The main reason for changing oil isn't because its worn out you change it because of the contaminants in it which also plugs up filters. I change my oil at 10,000 to 12,000 miles even if I run a high dollar oil.
@zeeshan_engineering_services
@zeeshan_engineering_services 5 жыл бұрын
Well on Caterpillar 3406 all models, C15, ,C16, C18 and 3456E I would recommend CAT 1R-0716 oil filter if oil is normal and wanted to change early. For good synthetic long drain engine lube oil Caterpillar advanced fuel and oil filters are available like wise lube oil filters 1R-1808 and 275-2604. Fuel filter 1R-1712 or advanced high efficiency use 1R-0749 along recommend fuel water separator elements and primary filters respectively.
@sheilamclaughlin963
@sheilamclaughlin963 4 жыл бұрын
We use to change every 10,000 with rotella oil because we were in the dirt twice as much as pavement
@0c0cpcpcpck48
@0c0cpcpcpck48 5 жыл бұрын
You think this vid would be boring but he keeps it entertaining
@Capitanvolume
@Capitanvolume 5 жыл бұрын
Anything but Fram is my general rule. I use Wix filters on light duty and fleet guards on HD. I have 18000hrs on my engine and runs like new.
@michaeldunagan8268
@michaeldunagan8268 2 жыл бұрын
Ya- Me too! Project Farm channel showed that Fram is a SCAM for 40 years of my life purchases. I WIX it or NAPA GOLD it for my 1999 Toyota Solara. Nothing but Fleetgaurd for my Cummins N14 too. But if I had a Caterpillar, I would do what Josh strongly thinks Cat owners should do and I would use a Car filter.
@jdrok5026
@jdrok5026 Жыл бұрын
Funnily fram makes better filters than wix
@NotHarry-er3wg
@NotHarry-er3wg 5 жыл бұрын
Well it makes sense. I have learned that OEM filters are built specifically for the application for OEM products. Especially Heavy Duty equipment Yea 3 thousands more meat is huge especially if the metal is hardened. Awesome descriptive as usual Josh. Thanks Man!
@clydeacor1911
@clydeacor1911 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny If you go to my Cat dealer here a Cat filter is $34 if you go down the street to Kenworth the same Cat filter is $18.
@patryk2497
@patryk2497 5 жыл бұрын
Clyde Acor lol same thing with my Detroit, Donaldson filter 20 bucks a piece and original Detroit oil filter 15. Needless to say I just go with original and not just because of the price either
@clydeacor1911
@clydeacor1911 5 жыл бұрын
@@patryk2497 Does Donaldson make the filters for Detroit? But in my situation you would think that Caterpillar would be cheaper than Kenworth for a Caterpillar brand filter. I asked my Caterpillar dealer about it and asked why they were twice as expensive as Kenworth for their own brand and the service manager told me it's because Kenworth orders and sells more filters and I said that may be true but they get them from you! Lol...
@MrBigR928
@MrBigR928 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true...lol... I get all my Cat filters from Kenworth! Kenworth just picked up the "Majestic" oil line also and its selling like crazy. I haven't used the engine oil because i use "Mystic" 15w 50 synthetic blend with a "MotorCote" chaser and they only have 15w 40. But i am using the "Majestic" full synthetic gear and transmission oils and they're great! And the prices are nice on the 5 gallon buckets of the stuff, like 90 sump'em bucks plus tax out the door👍
@wormwoodfive398
@wormwoodfive398 4 жыл бұрын
I get my Cat filters from non dealer, truck supply ... save $$$ ... actually I only get part from dealer that I can't get from my other sources
@clydeacor1911
@clydeacor1911 4 жыл бұрын
@@wormwoodfive398 exactly.
@dennyskerb4992
@dennyskerb4992 4 жыл бұрын
The facts are that Cat and Donaldson are 50/50 owners in a joint venture company called AFSI ( Advanced Filtration Sales Inc in Illinois)
@Galloway54499
@Galloway54499 5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even watch the video but I will tell you, I worked at Donaldson’s plant in Stevens point Wisconsin, they make almost every filter, including cat, so your buying a over priced Donaldson filter if you buy a cat filter, yes they are a tad bit different in number of pleats but same shit that’s it
@victormcox
@victormcox 5 жыл бұрын
You have a convert! I have a couple of sets of filters in stock but now I'm afraid to use them. In times past I've used Baldwin filters on a 6NZ. So far no "known" oil or fuel issues, but like Mr Frank in this thread has said, "don't trip over dollars to pick up a nickel!!" Thanks for your dedication to keep us informed.
@wizard1800
@wizard1800 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I run oem filters on my cummins powered pickup. I put a cat fuel filter on my deere powered genset. Filters are not the place i want to save.
@84gssteve
@84gssteve 5 жыл бұрын
At my rental yard, for our big ticket items like transports, rollbacks and Cat/JD full size equipment I always run the OEM filters. We don't have dozens and dozens of them, so the minimal added cost is outweighed by the peace of mind. For our hundreds of smaller machines, from skid steers to lawn/garden equipment I have run Wix/Napa (same product) filters for 25 years with zero lubrication related failures. Also, I can get them delivered from almost any parts house, which is convenient. If you are proactive and service your machines regularly, then the likelihood of a collapsed or plugged filter is fairly remote, so the premium attributes of an OEM filter become less of a necessity weighed against the cost of many hundreds of filters per year.
@ToyotatechDK
@ToyotatechDK 2 жыл бұрын
Nearly all CAT filters are made by Donaldson. You should know this ☺️. It´s the Donaldson Endurance serie. I have all the cutaway CAT filters from my time at a Donaldson dealership. By the way, that Donaldson P551311 is a fuel filter
@paulmadporra
@paulmadporra Жыл бұрын
Yip ........ Yellow equipment manufacturers do not make their own filters. In fact, OE's do not make any (or majority) of any parts on any machines they sell. It's all bought out, most of it. So they would need a Filter manufacturer to make their filters. Look ta the filter manufacturers in this video, and as @toyotatechDK said, you might find one of them makes many of the filters for most OE's ...
@edwardcarberry1095
@edwardcarberry1095 Жыл бұрын
I never remember the order as the other one I use/have is the P-551000 I think it is, one is water /fuel / the other is fuel filter. which every way they run .
@bayview94124
@bayview94124 5 жыл бұрын
Cat filters are worth every penny. Nice hat.
@davidroberts2404
@davidroberts2404 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy thing is cat doesn't make the filters. Iirc Donaldson makes them for caterpillar
@jrl5626
@jrl5626 4 жыл бұрын
Majority of Cat filters are made by the other leading manufactures. The canisters are made that way for other reasons and it's not a cost savings reason. Also, who knows how long the examples went on their oil changes.
@mrturner69
@mrturner69 5 жыл бұрын
i always try to use OEM filters where possible, i think on smaller equipment its not as critical (ie small engines) but larger engines and especially diesel engines i would always try to. the one aftermarket filters i have faith in at least for automotive is the hastings brand
@uprednecked
@uprednecked 5 жыл бұрын
i agree man! i work at an international/cummins shop and seen way too many filter failures! which is why we use international and fleetguard filters which are designed for those engines! Cheers!
@92powerdiesel61
@92powerdiesel61 5 жыл бұрын
How important is this on the 6bta? I have one and got wix filters because they are usually good.
@uprednecked
@uprednecked 5 жыл бұрын
@@92powerdiesel61 I wouldnt! wix are a good aftermarket but why would you run one if you can get your hands on a fleetguard? i would only run one if i couldnt get my hands on a fleetguard but its up to you!
@92powerdiesel61
@92powerdiesel61 5 жыл бұрын
@@uprednecked Ok, I've just gotta figure out how to get them. But after seeing this and your recommendation as a cummins tech I won't run anything else. Also do you like being a diesel tech? I love machines and don't really know what path I'm going to go down.
@uprednecked
@uprednecked 5 жыл бұрын
@@92powerdiesel61 you should be able to get them though any cummins dealer or international/KW or even freightliner dealer! i started as a auto mechanic and was tired of the pay so i switched over to medium/heavy duty and the pay is way better for me! but if you like cars nothing wrong with that! Cheers!
@davidroberts2404
@davidroberts2404 5 жыл бұрын
Fleetpride and truckpro carry fleetguard filters as well as donaldson.
@devoncoolman88
@devoncoolman88 5 жыл бұрын
The end cap on a cat filter is far superior to any of the other offerings as well.
@dirtfarmer7472
@dirtfarmer7472 4 жыл бұрын
I must like to stir things up, I used a bypass filter & Mobil DelVac oil changed bypass & serviced the truck every 10,000 miles. Main filter every 40,000 miles. Changed the oil every year. Sold the truck with 1,227,000 miles, never been inside the engine, original king pins & bushings.
@jimmahaffey9368
@jimmahaffey9368 4 жыл бұрын
Saw a lot of series 60 go over a million miles before overhaul. Don't think I ever saw a Cat do that. Saw a lot of Cats around 800 thousand sink number six liner in the block and blow out the water.... overhaul time.
@ronpatava
@ronpatava 5 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on if Lucas actually is worth using with Evey oil change, maybe do an oil sample on break downs of common oil brands such as Mobil, Chevron, Northland etc. We run Northland and 1 gallon of Lucas, fuel filters and airs as needed every 10k miles.
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 5 жыл бұрын
Lucas does exactly what it claims, it's just thicker oil. Far cheaper to just run a thicker oil in the first place then to add Lucas. The thing Lucas does not advertise is running thicker oil also reduces fuel economy, recommend viscosity is the balance for appropriate protection without unnecessary losses as determined by the manufacturer.
@herygarcia6193
@herygarcia6193 5 жыл бұрын
On every test I've seen on you tube that includes Lucas it's always last, but if you've never seen those videos go to a Y/T subscriber Project Farm and see for your own. there's a lot more posted by other subscriber where Lucas is included.
@JT-qf4it
@JT-qf4it 4 жыл бұрын
If you have to add Lucas to your oil, maybe you should change to a better oil.
@rowmacg
@rowmacg 4 жыл бұрын
I just switched from Shell Rotella T6 5w40, I was very happy with it’s performance, but I’ve heard Schaeffer’s is much better. I just had my oil changed to Schaeffer’s Supreme 9000 5w40 two weeks ago and the tech said the oil felt super slippery when he was putting a bead of oil on the oil filter gasket. He said he’s never felt an oil that slick before! The tech making that comment makes me feel like I made a good choice. I encourage people to research this oil, we all would like our engines to last as long as possible and get a little better fuel economy along the way!
@JamesSmith-jq2jc
@JamesSmith-jq2jc 3 жыл бұрын
I've worked for people who were terrible and cheap on maintenance, and others that didn't mind spending money and getting premium parts. You do get what you pay for. I even get the pick up sized oil filter for my car, they're usually a little longer, been doing that for a long time.
@kevinwenzel324
@kevinwenzel324 4 жыл бұрын
I get my Cat filters for half price so that's all I get. If you play your cards right every year Cat has a half price filter sale buy them when they are on sale and get a years worth. It's normally in January February.
@d1bigshifter737
@d1bigshifter737 5 жыл бұрын
Did a tour at Baldwin filters along the way there was an area that was curtained off .looked in side there were Yellow filters being made . Asked the tour guide and he acknowledge the fact that they make Cat filters along with several other manufacturers. To there specs they are they largest filter manufacturers as of 2006 things may have changed
@davidroberts2404
@davidroberts2404 5 жыл бұрын
Because Baldwin makes cat filters. Baldwin makes carquest premium filters also.
@MxSteve133
@MxSteve133 5 жыл бұрын
I use CAT filters on my DURAMAX, Engine oil & Fuel Filters
@weswebber4263
@weswebber4263 5 жыл бұрын
Where do you get them?
@Blue_Collar_Hunter
@Blue_Collar_Hunter 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to start using CAT filters on my Duramax I have a Chevy 2011 3500HD dually. What CAT Fuel filter do you use?
@ictpilot
@ictpilot 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they make one that would fit a 2020 Cummins 6.7 for a RAM 1 ton pickup. But I imagine the OEM filter would be good.
@JalopyTechnology
@JalopyTechnology 4 жыл бұрын
Always ran CAT filters after I got a tour of their filter manufacturing factory in IL...made a believer out of me.
@michaelreardon7667
@michaelreardon7667 3 жыл бұрын
Well, they don't make them there anymore, the last 3 sets of Cat filters I bought were made in The Czech Republic. Hope they are made to the same specs.
@AdriftAndAtPeace323
@AdriftAndAtPeace323 5 жыл бұрын
One thing to touch on with the cases back in my lube tech days at TA I used to have to fight with a lot of overtightened filters and while almost all the filters would collapse or twist in an attempt to get them loose, cats tended to dent where the metal portion of my strap wrench rested on the filter but otherwise stayed uniform to its original shape
@m1st3rxmayh3m3
@m1st3rxmayh3m3 4 жыл бұрын
Shit I work at TA and motherfuckers tighten the shit out of filters
@courtneypeters1741
@courtneypeters1741 Жыл бұрын
Hand tight and a 1/4 turn boys is all she needs
@Truckman194
@Truckman194 5 жыл бұрын
Good info, butttt Baldwin makes some/most of cat filters. Drove and mechanic/technicians around trucking most all my life, ran Wix, Donaldson, and Baldwin's off road on silage and grain harvesting never had rocks crack or make a filter leak or bottom end failure, been at trucking companies that have ran Baldwin and Fleetguard millions of miles no bottom end or oil related failures, good thoughts but no real benefit to the extra cost of cat filters.
@trucker1864
@trucker1864 5 жыл бұрын
I knew cat filters would be better I mean cat makes better stuff any day of the week. Like that oil commercial " Guy 1 "it was cheaper" guy 2 "it's that all your engine is worth to you ?"
@zeeshan_engineering_services
@zeeshan_engineering_services 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm go for 🐈 CAT Caterpillar original high efficiency spiral filters. I believe, Makes sense... Save cents... $ 😎
@cliffmorgan31
@cliffmorgan31 Жыл бұрын
I just changed my 2 FASS tall filters on my Cumins Dodge. The front of the front filter had taken a couple hits that slightly dented the filter, and the rear of the back filter also had 2 minor dents… stronger steel exterior sounds better to me now! Btw, I do forest service roads getting firewood and a fair bit of gravel roads, and the FASS tall filters hang slightly lower than the surrounding metal. The back of the back filter dents did surprise me. I think I’m converted to be a Cat filter believer.
@jdrok5026
@jdrok5026 Жыл бұрын
You have to look at the filters ratings cats aren't always even a decent option for some things.
@jeriatrix4526
@jeriatrix4526 4 жыл бұрын
Cat filters are made by J.A. Baldwin in Kearny, Nebraska; have been for years.
@6.4DieselDoctor
@6.4DieselDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Donaldson blue series has been the best I’ve ever used. And the fact that Donaldson makes cat filters
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter who makes it if they make it to different specs.
@dzrdr65
@dzrdr65 3 жыл бұрын
Now wait a minute, I have worked on a couple of cat 318 which are factory painted GREY. Cat dos not make a grey filter for it.( Ignore the fact that fuel and oil are canister type:) so do not say yellow for yellow. I am curious as to the history behind that donaldson. What was the condition of the oil, how far over service was it, what was the temp at failure. No you can't beat a cat filter for it's construction but fleetguard is made by cummins and comparable in spec's. Every thing I work on is local haul or off road and I tend to run a short interval any way's but the only filter failure I have seen is due to neglect on somebody's part. Love the opinion but can't agree to it in common life.
@kwil3330
@kwil3330 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a O/O and use factory filters on my 3406B. My buddy runs a Ford Diesel pickup and only uses Motorcraft on his truck.... He hasn't had issues most guys have had with his truck, my 3406B rarely has any problems, although I'm doing rods n mains along with a oil pump this week, 400K on a rebuild the mechanical cats need a lil more pampering. easier to spend a couple grand than 10's of thousands
@ronunderwood5771
@ronunderwood5771 5 жыл бұрын
Fuel filters are more mission critical than oil filters. Especially on the high pressure common rail systems. Your buddy is smart.
@davewattles7237
@davewattles7237 3 жыл бұрын
Trivia question: why the hole in the main rail of the Caterpillar filter cutter??..... Time is up!! The hole is for the stub which is part of the filter for aircraft application engine oil filters, which MUST be cut open and inspected according to FAA regulations.
@brentfrederick6576
@brentfrederick6576 5 жыл бұрын
I only run cat filters one thing I like about cat they stand behind them warranty on that filter if it leaks I replace it plus a gallon of oil they just have a better hold up then most other filters
@dhillonsavee
@dhillonsavee 5 жыл бұрын
Yellow on Yellow , or be a dirty fellow.
@chrome2infinity938
@chrome2infinity938 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I am surprised by the donaldson! That cat filter looks tough.
@kc8tyk86
@kc8tyk86 Жыл бұрын
I know this is a old video but Cat filters are made by Donaldson and Baldwin are made by Parker. Either one is great but the if you fail to maintain the filters they will all fail. Abuse is just that and no filter will hold up. Parker and Donaldson filters are the best on the market so either way you can't go wrong. I run Baldwin/Parker because I'm on the national filter pricing which is a huge savings. Do with the information as you choose.
@maxpain7197
@maxpain7197 22 күн бұрын
I have run Donaldson on my cummins for years. Always been fine. I do run cat for my fuel though.
@kevinbaker8102
@kevinbaker8102 5 жыл бұрын
I have never had one problem with Baldwin filters
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 5 жыл бұрын
He did say such extreme failures are rare.
@nealk6387
@nealk6387 5 жыл бұрын
We use fleetguard filters. But this video makes since. Thanks josh.
@chrismoorhouse9278
@chrismoorhouse9278 5 жыл бұрын
Love ya vids mate. Keep them coming 👍🏻
@cjtyler01
@cjtyler01 3 жыл бұрын
I just put a cat filter on my 06 duramax and it’s so much better than stock.
@Dan_C604
@Dan_C604 5 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Although I watched this from the marine perspective, this is really good info. Thanks!
@marctanner1
@marctanner1 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, I bought a truck with white filters for my cat. I totally agree. looks bad.
@xc8487
@xc8487 4 жыл бұрын
For my personal vehicle I always use a K&N filter for the same reasons. High quality media, steel tube and end plates vs cardboard, and a tough case. I was surprised that the Amsoil Ea filter had bunched so much.
@nunez23j1
@nunez23j1 Жыл бұрын
Do a bit more real life research on the k&n oil and fuel filters. You will be very disappointed.
@edwardcarberry1095
@edwardcarberry1095 Жыл бұрын
I have this information in the truck, sorry not going out there. Find the ISO 900?somethinger other. Number ( 2 or 3?) K&N for air filter does not pass the ability to stop dust or hold dust in the air filter. What gets me for my thinking is if you want to do a better job double the filter which a vehicle comes with.
@xc8487
@xc8487 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardcarberry1095 Obviously more air in either means reduced filtration or a larger filter of the original material. Unless I lived in a desert, I'm not all that worried about the small increase in dust.
@edwardcarberry1095
@edwardcarberry1095 Жыл бұрын
As I am NOT Interested in Dusting an Engine! Nufff said!
@xc8487
@xc8487 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardcarberry1095 Good for you. If they actually led to any meaningful statistical increase in engine failures then engine manufacturers would've brought a class action suit by now.
@georgeof78
@georgeof78 4 жыл бұрын
My boss uses cat filters on all his trucks except the one onlybtruck running the Detroit 60 series. That's how much he loves cat motors. Maybe I can talk him into adapting a cat filter? Lol! With a Detroit though doesn't matter what color the filter is. It'll match the engine after awhile as oil seeps everywhere. I secretly love detroit 60 series after he built a Peterbilt dump truck with a detroit. It has a good history, but I do prefer a Cat though.
@carltonlane8931
@carltonlane8931 4 жыл бұрын
I do agree,I run a Scania engine,Scania only filters for me,big end out years ago ,crap filter let stuff though,end failed,genuine only ,that rebuild hurt.
@nesh2003
@nesh2003 4 жыл бұрын
How many miles did it need a rebuild? What engine was it? Thinking of changing mine to cat filters too. It's a Chinese made weichai engine but need a rebuild almost after 450k kilometres
@tone569
@tone569 10 ай бұрын
What did they do to that filter? How long did they have it in the truck? For that catastrophic to happen, something had to cause it. Then running the filter too long
@bonidaexpress
@bonidaexpress 5 жыл бұрын
My engine is yellow and i use yellow filters,Thank you for that great advice
@RyanandBensDiecast26
@RyanandBensDiecast26 5 жыл бұрын
Josh, I would like to know more about your background in power generation. I am in EPG tech at my local dealership. The reason for me moving from trucks to EPG is the fact that our dealership became an international dealership and no longer had a specifically cat truck shop. I was wanting to know if the same thing is happening in your dealership. Thanks.
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 5 жыл бұрын
One of the cat dealers near me still runs a separate truck shop, but it was about a year ago they got rid of the truck side management and combined it with the ag.
@lanehammer
@lanehammer 6 ай бұрын
You could change the less expensive filter more often and not come out ahead and that’s always been my calculus when choosing filters and lubricants..
@pvcarmon1
@pvcarmon1 5 жыл бұрын
Omg I was inspecting a cheap filter the other day and found a loose burr on the threads from the machine process. Couldn't believe it. Inspect your filters no matter what brand they are. CAT looks stout didn't care for the, "Nylon" center afraid it could melt during an overheat condition. Just my opion great video thx.
@compactc9
@compactc9 5 жыл бұрын
I also think that nylon structure in the middle of the filter has more rigidity than the thin sheet metal the others are made of.
@ussindyboyz9683
@ussindyboyz9683 5 жыл бұрын
The blemished filter was a Amsoil! Ouch😢
@Firebird_876
@Firebird_876 5 жыл бұрын
USSINDYBOY Z Amsoil makes the best motor oil but their filters eh there’s room for improvement.
@ussindyboyz9683
@ussindyboyz9683 5 жыл бұрын
Firebird 87622 apparently. I’ve been trusting their filters for years😖
@Second.Nature.Lawn.Michigan
@Second.Nature.Lawn.Michigan 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like someone took the extended oil change a bit too far.
@JT-qf4it
@JT-qf4it 4 жыл бұрын
How many miles were on those collapsed filters? Failure to change them on a regular basis may cause the filter to plug. Without a bypass valve inside, the oil pump would suck the filter media together. Check out this bulletin from FRAM www.fram.com/support/tech-documents/consumer-documents/
@jcjc2593
@jcjc2593 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 3406E and I use Donaldson filters because CAT filters cost almost 4 times more than Donaldson... What I do is to change the filters often I haven't had any issues till now 1 million miles on it and still strong 65psi oil pressure running 30psi Hot at idle... Turbo makes 30psi boost We have lots of hills and traffic
@markwilliams4525
@markwilliams4525 2 жыл бұрын
You must be getting fu€ked royally! Cat filters are not 4 times as much! You should sell your truck if you can't afford a oem filter
@patrickcoyne1292
@patrickcoyne1292 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha i love it. here’s why the cat filter is better....also because the filter should match the engine. i love it. i hate seeing multi colored stuff at work to. drives me nuts that fleet guards are white and cummins are red....nothing but cat on my own truck. 30 year old 3406c mechanical. still going strong
@sethnonya8566
@sethnonya8566 5 жыл бұрын
No never buy a fram no no no no
@tone569
@tone569 10 ай бұрын
My boss had OME mopar filter do the same thing his truck with a 5.9 cummins because he ran the filter to long 8500 miles, so on it, dodge wouldn't cover the damage
@lskell2
@lskell2 4 жыл бұрын
Cat don’t make filters.... let that sink in...lol. I believe they are made by wix? The Donaldson filter that was destroyed, was probably caused by some other issue, if not it’s rare. I’ve ran them for many years and many miles with no issues and bearings have always looked great. I’ll have to cut one open to see what it looks like inside. Now I’m curious.
@lagoonrd4173
@lagoonrd4173 5 жыл бұрын
Needed to hear that. Can’t listen to billy Joe Shmoe and zero knowledge of filters... I’m sticking with cat
@repairvehicle
@repairvehicle 4 жыл бұрын
I use amsoil oil filter and get zero engine wear over 13 months of city driving.
@repairvehicle
@repairvehicle 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this video is biased because you don't say time, mileage on filter and on what equipment it was used. Too much information is withhold to make cat look good.
@georgewashington1106
@georgewashington1106 5 ай бұрын
I know this is an old video, but hopefully you can answer a question for me. Are all CAT filters made to this same spec, with the spiral roving and the acrylic beads, or is it only for certain applications?
@rustyharrell439
@rustyharrell439 2 жыл бұрын
I have been buying Cat fuel filter for 20 years. Lately the last 3 cat fuel filters are missing the 1 inch gasket. Purchased them at Mustang Cat. Previous the box was yellow now the box is brown cardboard with a cat sticker on the box. What gives. Having to use the old gasket!!!!
@elijahrobinson2362
@elijahrobinson2362 5 жыл бұрын
Buy the best filters & lube you can find. Not the most expensive, but the BEST quality. It’s cheap insurance compared to an overhaul/set of valves, et cetera. It’s an INVESTMENT in the longevity of your bigger investment (the equipment/engine). You run a business, make the most of your money.
@albertsewell878
@albertsewell878 5 жыл бұрын
One thing left out,, people don't change at recommended ,, I am a mech myself, and most that claim they do DON'T. On cat tho I do use cat ,
@randyschock7374
@randyschock7374 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very informative video. Much Appreciated.
@rickclarke9085
@rickclarke9085 4 жыл бұрын
You didn’t touch on micron ratings. I believe CAT filters have lower micron ratings then any of their competitors. I never use anything but CAT for that reason.
@jeffsnider3588
@jeffsnider3588 5 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the add on or factory equipped centrifugal filters? I bought a used truck that has an aftermarket - T. G. Hudgins centrifugal filter added, this is in addition to the standard spin on paper filters. The oil does seem to stay cleaner and the centrifuge has black carbon looking material on the inside wall when cleaned. They seem to work in my opinion.
@slayer77000
@slayer77000 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative And I was looking into changing the whole filter system. A conversation kit to davco 382.
@nikolairomanov3160
@nikolairomanov3160 3 жыл бұрын
Q. How many miles Donaldson was cleaning that oil? I can ask. Is there oil fitration system installed. If yes. Than that oil by it self 60k miles over due. I use Donaldson for 15k miles max oil and fuel. Agree on a quality Cat is #1
@alanincardona1879
@alanincardona1879 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to fuel filters, number one is cat. Number 2 is Donaldson. Cats are notorious for sucking up cheap fuel filters. I ran Donald son fuel filters and had no problems. Baldwins, my 3406 would eat them in 10,00 miles. Donaldson would easily last from one oil change to the next.
@firsttimediesels6289
@firsttimediesels6289 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 6.0 powerstroke which has a heui injection system, I will be switching to a fass fuel pump and cat filters and water separators
@imafriend1336
@imafriend1336 5 жыл бұрын
Yellow filters look great on black engines
@mcgruffmo
@mcgruffmo 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man!
@aerialrescuesolutions3277
@aerialrescuesolutions3277 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. If you change the filter more often it wouldn't collapse like that? or no... It just seems like those distorted pleats are from neglect? However I see your point about the construction differences , JIM
@gagepuffinbarger6939
@gagepuffinbarger6939 5 жыл бұрын
I toured a caterpillar filter factory and saw the whole works and I’d say that their filters are superior
@RJ1999x
@RJ1999x 3 жыл бұрын
Where is it located?
@gagepuffinbarger6939
@gagepuffinbarger6939 3 жыл бұрын
@@RJ1999x I believe it was Peoria Illinois.
@RJ1999x
@RJ1999x 3 жыл бұрын
@@gagepuffinbarger6939 Only filter factory they show is in the Czech republic. And their KZbin video is almost verbatim what this video was. I'll stick with Baldwin
@gagepuffinbarger6939
@gagepuffinbarger6939 3 жыл бұрын
@@RJ1999x Baldwin makes good filters
@RJ1999x
@RJ1999x 3 жыл бұрын
@@gagepuffinbarger6939 been using them for 40+ years on a fleet of ag, industrial, and heavy trucks and never had any issues, so I have no reason to switch
@adamkolm6711
@adamkolm6711 4 жыл бұрын
I was running cat filters in my old 1984 235 excavator I gotta bunch of Sandy rusty stuff in my fuel so I temporally switched over to wiz after I went through five cat filters I had a mechanic come out we drained all the fuel I put a new fuel in and a new fuel lift pump new lines after about 5 hours my clean out fuel filter packed solid with sand I just cleanen them out I run cat in the clean out I have one more wiz filter left should I switch back to cat soon
@ericwiltz6584
@ericwiltz6584 Жыл бұрын
Would you ever put a CAT filter on a Duramax? I know you are a big rig mechanic. I read something that said since no back-flow check valve I would have dry starts. Thank you
@johnnyturbo8460
@johnnyturbo8460 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting.... Amsoil filter has "bunching" and its bad... now look at the CAT filter "it looks great", ummm. But it came out of a motor with a spun bearing... .. soooooo if you want ur oil filter to look nice when you remove it, but spin a bearing... buy CAT......., if you want a crappy looking filter when you take it out but a healthy engine buy something else lol The big question is , how long were the filters left in the truck? Was the oil level correct? Oil weight correct? Many many factors
@JT-qf4it
@JT-qf4it 4 жыл бұрын
Poor oil flow causes filters to bunch. High suction. Cat does not make their filters. Lets have some more info on each of those filters
@jacobcornelius1278
@jacobcornelius1278 3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know Fram even made a filter for big diesels, an who’s stupid enough to even use that junk?
@davidswalec3598
@davidswalec3598 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! is no one going to admit that they first thought he was going to talk about filters for his pet cat? I wondered what that is about and trusted it might be interesting, like his review of the Bug-assault guns. OK, I ended up learning more great points about engines, as I always do in all his videos. Example if you buy a cheap filter, at least have the class to paint it Cat brand yellow, before it is put into action. LOL
@jamesgittins6752
@jamesgittins6752 3 жыл бұрын
I've just seen the word cat look at the picture and all I seen was cats eyes then realising that they were filters
@ThePeterbiltrucker
@ThePeterbiltrucker 5 жыл бұрын
We only use caterpillar filters and cat samples our oil at their lab, Also I lose mpgs if I use off brand fuel filters,👍🏻👍🏻’s up
@bluegrasskid
@bluegrasskid Жыл бұрын
Hey Joshua! Where can I find one of those CAT hats?
@thefartdart
@thefartdart 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Baldwin made Cat filters ?
@Waterboy831
@Waterboy831 5 жыл бұрын
Well stated, Josh!
@terry2can914
@terry2can914 4 жыл бұрын
Man you done another top review and i agree with you 1005
@victormcox
@victormcox 3 жыл бұрын
I paint my Baldwin filters yellow before putting them on!....... 🚫 NOT!!👍🤟😉 Cat all the time!
@cosmolinefien3199
@cosmolinefien3199 5 жыл бұрын
I thought baldwin makes cat filters?
@saltysteel3996
@saltysteel3996 4 жыл бұрын
Purolator BOSS for oil and CAT for fuel on my diesel truck.
@JT-qf4it
@JT-qf4it 4 жыл бұрын
Did Donaldson pay for the engine? If their filter was the cause of the engine failure did they pay?
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