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Magnus the Red (also known as the Crimson King, the Sorcerer-King, Cyclopean Magnus or the Red Cyclops) is the Primarch of the Thousand Sons Chaos Space Marine legion. A giant in both physical and mental terms whilst a mortal inhabitant of the materium, Magnus long tried to understand and control the warp, becoming a sorcerer of formidable power. Magnus would eventually fall from favour with his father, the Emperor, and with the majority of his brother-primarchs due to his zealous advocacy and use of such power. Indeed it would prove to be his mortal undoing, as, forewarned of Horus' fall to Chaos, his attempt to use his own warp-touched abilities to alert the Emperor to the situation brought about his own damnation and servitude to the Chaos God Tzeentch. Magnus led his own troops to the banner of Horus and fought on his side during the Great Betrayal, surviving the events and being elevated to the position of Daemon Prince. He has spent the majority of the millennia since ensconced atop his tower upon the Planet of the Sorcerers, planning the destruction of the Imperium.

[@concretephill8509]

Perturabo: Hey Magnus... Magnus: Yes Perturabo? Perturabo: You were always nice to me .. dont show up to Istvan on monday...

[@AngryHomunculus]

"Also here's this cool warp device I made" *Proceeds to smash it* "Just don't. Bye"

[@oculus1857]

"love ya Bro!....not really!"

[@Bluemilk92]

Dark...

[@MrSamulai]

Magnus did nothing wrong. He was told to do nothing. And he did it wrong.

[@isaacfoley6728]

Magnus is like a kid with ADHD in class He got bored at the subject

[@TheTsugnawmi2010]

I stander and Koda reference. Nice.

[@Son.D.Lollipop]

God it’s so fucking true is every way possible

[@frozenkiller61]

Isyander and Koda love it

[@TheGreatCharlie123]

omg i finally got it xD

[@Johnny_Isometric]

Shy is so nice, she didn’t even use the steel chair on Bricky.

[@Th4tOn36uy]

Hearing Perterabo calling Magnus’s hair magnificent i cant help but imagine a far-off timeline of Perty rattling off his new city plans for a planet while he does Magnus’s hair

[@Crispr_CAS9]

The Magnus/Perturabo bromance in Master of Prospero is epic.

[@jeambeam3173]

I just picture it was his terrible attempt at humor since he himself is bald

[@jackbelmont4389]

"Can you BELIEVE that he picked dorn over me. ME?" "No I do not spill that tea." 😂😂😂

[@MitchellMeyer702]

“Perturabo placed one hand on his shoulder, the other at his neck, pulling him close for a fraternal embrace. His next words were for Magnus alone. ‘You came a heartbeat from death,’ he whispered. ‘By all rights, you should have died. And our father’s Great Crusade would have been robbed of one of its brightest sons, brighter even than dear Horus. More importantly, I would have lost a dear brother. There are none among our kin I regard as highly as you, so promise me you won’t risk your life like that again.’ “

[@gerryilu851]

One of the very few occasions when Peter Turbo wasn't a dick.

[@thaddeuscruz5563]

Literally one of the most wholesome moments in 40k

[@harmonlanager2670]

What book is this from?

[@auvmat179]

Where's that from?

[@sambrassfield8450]

Pretty sure that's from Perty's primarch novel

[@tehvaniu6a]

A few stuff worth mentioning: 1. Magnus had a secret plan to delve further into the warp, he had Perurabo build him a gadget. Good old Peter built it and broke it in front of Magnus to remind him of Big E's warnings. A cute little moment between bff primarchs and good foreshadowing for Magnus' fall. 2. Ahriman befriended a Space Wolf rune priest and showed him some of his psychic research and abilities. That Space Wolf proceeded to share all of those secrets at Nikeah to shame the Thousand Sons while presenting himself as entirely different. 3. Magnus did try and convince Horus to remain loyal. But apparently, Erebus seemed more trustworthy despite having been exposed as a liar by Magnus.

[@lornbaker1083]

Remember everything is always lorgars fault

[@RougeMephilesClone]

Another moment of Peter Turbo being right and ignored.

[@gama343]

@@RougeMephilesClone Nah. If Perturabo hadn't broken the machine, Magnus would never have had to resort to using wacky sorcery rituals involving mass sacrifice/burning out shitloads of mortal psykers. Plus he could have built in a ton of psychic power sinks to make it totally safe to use. Then again, Perturabo didn't understand Warp shenanigans, so he probably built it wrong in the first place.

[@thetowerofbabble6307]

Best part about that rune priest was that Ahriman had shown him the truth and such before feeding his soul to daemons, making him dead dead.

[@ChaosRampant666]

That common thread when they have make certain Primarchs stupid/hypocrites to make them fall. Horus couldn't trust a psycher over Erebus, I guess

[@drakeyork241]

52:40 Small correction. He didn’t think “if prospero burns, I deserve it” but rather if I die, I deserve it. He expected his planet and his sons to be fine. As soon as he learned they were going for the manual exterminatus, he said screw that noise and went to save his sons.

[@pheonixheart1125]

There's a bunch of other stuff going on during and before the burning of Prospero but even for the burning it's kind of magnus's fault. While reading the books magnus did have this idea that his punishment should extend to his sons as well, but instead of saying anything about it, he hid the arrival the Space Wolves and Custodes until they just showed up. Blame does fall on Erebus and Lorgar yet again, but also Horus for misleading Russ and if I'm remembering correctly the warp was interfering in Russ's comms because he was trying to get Magnus to surrender and come with him peacefully (I think for once it wasn't alpha legion messing with comms). Also Amon Ra being their version of Typhon and placing the remembrancer spy among the Space Wolves.

[@collecter343]

@@pheonixheart1125 Wasn't the remembrancer spy placed with the Wolves due to Changeling shenanigans?

[@morpheusbutasasquirtle4431]

Mortarion and Russ- "you could just kill them and start over?" Magnus- "Don't speak to me or my thousand sons ever again."

[@otterblau5253]

"I punched out one of his hearts! How come noone remembers that!" - Magnus the Red

[@gunnerbradley5282]

It’s okay, Russ has another! Unlike Magnus’ back after that back shot.

[@TheSniperGTO]

Doesn’t seem to slow him down much.

[@nolan92491]

You see he didn't give up his eye, he gave up his ability to see the incredibly obvious stuff right in front of him, like "hmmm maybe he put this barrier up for a reason"

[@TheHerrDoctor]

That would have been good lore, lol

[@judeblack4360]

"Depth perception, pal. Look into it."

[@Eskeletor_210]

That kinda reminds me of Kairos Fateweaver

[@fernandotrevinocastro1018]

He's willingly blind. He pretends to do what he's told, ignores warnings, does whatever he wants, and cryes after. "Maybe this entity is the warp danger." "Maybe I should stand for my magic, instead of doing it at everyone's back, or not do it at all" "Maybe trying to save the day, specifically with magic will create more confusion" I'm pretty sure the eye is a reference to Osiris ignoring Set, willingly blind until Set betray him; and Horus Eye is the sacrifice needed to push Set back; but you need to be willing to see all, not just the things that pushes your way.

[@Thaxton-b8i]

Gold star comment

[@terminaro]

Also about who loves his "sons" more: when Magnus was rejecting the emperor's offer of redemption (during the siege of Terra!) because the cost was sacrificing all his sons, he asked Vulcan if he would accept such an offer being in his place. Vulcan lowered his gaze, said no and powered his hammer.

[@sparkraido]

Another vulkan W the man would have made the same choice but remained loyal to the emperor

[@NateVHVT]

"Not even for 1." Raises hammer.

[@DavidCendana]

Big E, just give the sons]] retirement! Heck, give em penitent crusade like the Khan did until the legion dies out. Why are you like this, you overgrown golden caveman??

[@bradhoefler8650]

@@sparkraido but you see while he would have made the same choice, he did not have to. that scene was more of Vulcan admitting that he understood magnus, that given the same option he would have done the same. it was him saying "i understand your actions and will not condemn you for them, but we are enemies so we must fight"

[@sparkraido]

@bradhoefler8650 man vulkan is loyal to the bone poor magnus was faced with a choice he couldn't make the emperor just told him Choose death of death mf knew he would not stand his own sons in the back to take his place back next to big e

[@GetAWhiff]

I always saw tzeentch taking his eye as a little metaphorical. His right eye also being a symbol of his ability to view himself, to introspect. Magnus was tricked into blinding himself to his own faults which led to his arrogance, then his fall/ascension.

[@leek.3671]

Oooohh I really like that!

[@drizzmatec]

There is a weird symmetry between Magus's missing his right eye and Kairos. Kairos's right head can see all possible futures, and after after sacrificing his right eye Magus begins to lack forethought about the worst of his decisions, only caring about what helps most in that moment.

[@aguspuig6615]

plus its got all that Odin symbolism too!

[@GetAWhiff]

@@aguspuig6615 yeah but kinda in reverse. Odin sacrifices his eye for wisdom and knowledge where as Magnus unknowingly sacrificed his wisdom by sacrificing his eye.

[@LordIsrafel]

Aye, it's meant to be a twisted mockery of it. Odin, Tarhunt, Horus, the Graeae, all lack at least one eye and became more wise/clever as a result. But for Magnus, it was merely an opening for Chaos. Once he agreed to that small act, he became more susceptible to every other temptation Tzeentch dangled his way.

[@Yurwatkrah]

Magnus is the personification of the quote: "We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior."

[@TheGallantDrake]

Oof.

[@Gormathius]

I've never come across that quote before, where's it from?

[@dwarvenninja8104]

Magnus was the Primark who fell to Chaos for his sons. Everything he did wrong was either for them or for the Emperor. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

[@rakshithanand8262]

Except for the time he killed his son to prevent a warning of the wolves approach, the time he killed his son for killing Alivia sureka, the many, many times he almost killed Ahriman...

[@isengarde9490]

Mortarion disagrees. Wasn't that the whole reason he sold out to Nurgle after Typhus fucked his legion over? I mean, he was probably never going to be loyal to begin with, but the Death Guard likely would've been *Traitors* but not *Heretics* if Typhus didn't exist.

[@leahsander5490]

Or due to his own arrogance tbf

[@Swarbie8D]

@@isengarde9490 yeah, Mortarion fell bc he couldn’t bear to see his Legion suffer any more. Its why he’s my favourite; his story is all about him being absolutely awful but still having more love for his sons than either of the fathers he knew

[@isengarde9490]

@@Swarbie8D That's why I love the Roboutian Heresy fan continuity. He's Loyal, and that's the only thing that changed about him.

[@jaredhall1457]

if theres ever a 40k equivalent to the end times, therell be a moment where magnus andruss and all their sons will face a common enemy: a vacuum cleaner

[@kyra7305]

Truly Ahriman's enemy. I would know, my cat mr.Ahriman is terrified of the thing

[@SirBrasstion]

You joke, but I can see this being the case with a Necron black hole superweapon.

[@eduardodiaz9942]

If Magnus is the Crimson King, does that mean he's the 41st Millennium Schizoid Man?

[@henrypaleveda7760]

thank you for this.

[@AriSolMorningstar]

That definitely fits

[@nedcurfman3486]

*Kore ga… Back-breaker da.* - Leman Russ, M31, the Burning of Prospero

[@bozo6049]

He talks to the wind....

[@j.gabriel1664]

I mean the warp kinda is starless, and he definitely has a black bible

[@Striker775]

In an unexpected but somehow not very disappointing move, GW managed to make everyone unhappy no matter whichever side you're on. In other news, water is still wet. More news at 9.

[@BigRedNerdBird]

:(

[@Frenchindochina]

When it comes to warhammer lore, I am a firm believer in “game workshop is dumb as hell, so I’m gonna pick and choose the parts of lore I like and that’s what’s real”

[@thebaron2277]

i mean that works because everything is cannon but not everything is true. this goes double for ancient lore from Rouge Trader

[@varietywiarrior]

3d printer go brrrrr

[@thaddeusb8715]

Yes. This.

[@_d--]

this has become SO true!

[@Bonavire]

I fully believe Trazyn has a 10.0 graded Alpha Black Lotus locked in a stasis field

[@roberts4089]

Council of Nikaea taking away Thousand Sons magic powers just like 10th ed

[@lornbaker1083]

Smiles in psychic bug power. Geee I wonder where all of that psychic energy went.Oh, what is this wonderful platter of incredibly intelligent psychic energy?That's now been given to my bugs for a buffet. Oh well time to have lunch. That's right.We eat your lunch and drink your milk shake

[@samhescott348]

How does it even work now? Is it just unit abilities now?

[@smugron1101]

@@samhescott348 Unit abilities with the psychic attacks just being weapons.

[@AngryHomunculus]

​@@smugron1101for some reason that reminded me of a rule change regarding abilities in AoS, but I can't remember what it is right now

[@samhescott348]

@@smugron1101 so you can’t use both now? I thought originally you could do psychic and shooting now you can’t?

[@burnin8able]

I'm legitimately impressed they were able to get that many drawings and all the editing done for that skit in the cold opening. incredible shitposts all around.

[@xenostyrant4118]

I've always had the headcannon that Magnus is extremely intelligent but also extremely emotional leading to his impulsive decision. Warp power is tied to emotions and Magnus is one of the most powerful psykers in the universe. The Eldar have the paths to keep them from falling into the emotional states that led to the Fall but Magnus did not.

[@ananonymousnerd.2179]

The kind shard, the "Noble Shard of Magnus", was actually used to create the Grey Knight Janus. Magnus was FURIOUS that Malcador just casually used a piece of his soul to make a Grey Knight and it was one of the reasons he rejected a last-minute team switch. Oh, wait, they mentioned that a bit later.

[@blimp9741]

Malcador actually sold that so hard. makes me believe that was also part of tzeentch's plan

[@teecheeong]

@@blimp9741 To be fair, the situation at the time was a clusterfuck of cluster fucks. Not to mention, Malcador didn't know that Magnus was considering to go switch back since he was too busy trying to salvage the situation when Horus and the traitors went crazy and rebel. It was just bad luck. But I do understand where you're coming from.

[@sindrimyr5351]

another thing, ALL OF MAGNUS DUELS GET INTERRUPTED. Like..in the Duel between him and russ, Magnus is about to deliver a killing Blow to Russ, but then the two actual wolf pets of Russ jump him, distract him and give russ time to recover and hit his eye.

[@gama343]

Don't forget the part where Magnus takes a moment to melt the company of Space Wolves that tried to skirt around the duel to get at the last of his sons.

[@ColdNorth0628]

​​@@gama343 Magnus the mans need 2 extra arms and extra eyes to just be casting spells. Also no wonder russ broke his back, he was carrying the k-sons with his abilities alone.

[@MagnusArchitectOfFate]

@@ColdNorth0628you know, Sukuna-like form of Magnus(so not only with additional pair of eyes and arms, but with second mouth) would perfectly fit Tzeench aesthetic Besides enormous power boost

[@henrywhitmore8344]

I can just hear Magnus in the distance screaming at DK when they talk about the fight “I PUNCHED OUT ONE HIS HEARTS WHY DOES NO ONE REMEMBER THAT!!!!!” Even though he brought it up later the fact he didn’t after discussing the back breaker just made it hilarious 😂😂😂

[@ArchArturo]

This is the awkward episode. Between the worst such as "succulent", 'take a hold of my grippers' 'grab that taco' 'No harm will shall come to You, nor your Magnificent Hair...' and DK's 'air tasting' ...

[@0vrsa0]

Magnus did *everything* wrong. He just had good intentions.

[@festusxiii5724]

And in his defense tseench himself was working to ensure that Magnus falls from grace. Can we really blame Magnus for being tricked when the god of tricks tricked him?

[@Halvos12]

I mean I'd say yes IF Magnus knew that was who he was dealing with. If only *SOMEONE* explained it to him before hand

[@Pragabond]

Not everything but yeah he did more wrong than he did right that's for sure.

[@muttproductions2536]

The road to Chaos is often paved with good intentions

[@mikecampos1193]

Not against the Space Wolves that was kind of based.

[@MrBreakmind]

One hour and a half, can mean two things: a beefy episode or Bricky and Dk heavily going off the rail

[@AngryHomunculus]

TBF the first 10 minutes or so was talking about the recent news regarding the Custodes Codex (I think I might still buy it cos I just got into the hobby, and I don't have any Codices at the moment)

[@speedlines]

I say this as a White Scars fan, after this and the 1k Sons episode, you guys need to do an episode on the origin of Janus.

[@ShadowGhost0117]

It would also be a good time to talk a bit about the Knights Errant

[@Fyrijou]

Fun Fact: one of the Primarchs (besides Magnus) who broke the vow of the Council of Nikea the most was actually the Lion. When he and the Dark Angels traveled trough the warp, Daemons attacked their ship and they didn’t know how to fight them effectively, until a Librarian started using his powers. The Lion in that moment revoked the voew until they’re in safe space again, but their Chaplin, Nemiel, was heavily against it and was basically ready to snitch on the Emperor for that. And the Lion, the calm and collected soul he is, punched Nemiel‘s head clean off which was one of the reasons which led to Caliban rebelling against the Lion.

[@PacMan41000]

I mean, Jaghatai Khan held funerals for his sons, and went crazy because a single one was killed by an ork, then was saddened at having to cut down his own sons when they turned traitor after Prospero. Haven't heard any other primach giving that level of care to their marines

[@holokom3330]

I am upset about the female Custodes. Mainly because their codex is horrible, and I am now afraid that Eldar are gonna fair even worse than with the current detachment. (Which is horrible for balancing, and fluff) And because it shows that if you are not spacemarines - you wont receive any lore. If even Custodes get no new lore - what hope do Aeldari have? A very distressed Eldar.

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

Oh, oh you're right. Crap.

[@Titanius75]

Thankfully a war has not started in Iran...yet. But if it does one day, as an Iranian fan I just want to say you guys have always been amazing and will be amazing. You are my 1st ever podcast that I have faithfully been following eversince the episode on Kriegs. Love you lots from Iran and here's to more episodes!

[@samhescott348]

Damn dude, I wish you luck and wish for peace.

[@THEHOLYCHAINSWORD]

Hope all goes well mate stay safe and have a good week

[@TealWolf26]

*Gives hug* Have faith, brotherrrr. The Emperor protects.

[@joalitionstatus8368]

I hope everything stays safe for you, friend.

[@angry_zergling]

Looks like (for the time being) things have cooled off. Stay safe!

[@lordcommissarspartan]

It's a line in TTS once again, paraphrased to "A Caring Parental Figure is the Greatest Defense against the Vileness of Chaos". Had the Emperor seen that he was a father *figure* to the Primarchs, and played that part, there was the chance he could have avoided the worst of the heresy

[@ANDELE3025]

He was. BL writers daddy issues cant change the og canon.

[@Dracobyte]

May be he was awful and intended the Heresy to happen.

[@lordcommissarspartan]

@Dracobyte one of the recent books had the emperor talk to malcador about the primarchs. He intended to reform the ones that could live after war, and give peace to the ones that could never leave the battlefield.

[@Mare_Man]

​@@ANDELE3025 Angron.

[@ANDELE3025]

@@Mare_Man Yes, originally angron was angry due to the butchers nails being unable to be fixed without killing him and big E didnt want to kill his son. In the retcon he is angry because E teleported him away in a extremely out of character move.

[@RUSTCORE-qk6ou]

Wow theres a lot of retcons here i wonder who dunnit and also Human-Eldar(Heldar) children existing and being welcomed by the imperium? So you're tellin' me that, that Roboogey x Yvraine shitpost aint far from the fucking truth?

[@Wanten-the-stormtrooper]

What Bricky in his politically disingenuous "wisdom" is that half-Eldar were literally only in Rogue Trader (AKA first edition, back when the lore wasn't finalised and things like the Sinsei were still a thing and Space Marines weren't transhumans and just the foreign legion in power armour), so they haven't really been canon since 2nd edition. Hopefully this clears things up.

[@krisgardner7160]

The intro was *chefs kiss*

[@zenoking5958]

Oh boi I love 1000 sons, I hope that’s all we talk about the whole episode.

[@TheHerrDoctor]

Remember, He punched out one of Russ's hearts

[@Forestxavier20]

Why do people always forget that?!

[@rakshithanand8262]

​@@Forestxavier20because he got snapped like a kit-kat bar around 20 seconds after...

[@lornbaker1083]

I'm going to make a joke about Lehman.Having three hearts but I feel as though it wouldn't miss a beat

[@stevetrent4638]

Who cares? Russ has multiple hearts but Magnus only has one spine lol

[@Halvos12]

If I had half my hearts ripped out I'd also move to end the fight as quickly as possible.

[@nedaraid3372]

If you tought it was bad learning about a major geopolitical event the day after, imagine hearing about it furst on a comedy podcast about Warhammer.

[@thisisalie-ft8cv]

The power of Shy with a chair is unmatched even by the Emperor himself

[@RoSohryu]

Why is Magnus loved? TTS man TTS

[@marseldagistani1989]

Only because of TTS because Magny Magic fucked up royally! Now let me tell you about the Actual Magnus that did nothing wrong known by the moniker The Pious

[@FarmerTee]

The Big Red Redditor himself

[@ember_angeldust]

4:17 OH MY GOD-EMPEROR! IT'S SHY WITH A WOODEN CHAIR! AND BRICKY HAS BEEN BROKEN IN HALF!

[@master-of-frogs5415]

I’m certain that half the Magnus fans are from the tts fan base

[@salphoris911]

Can confirm. Saucy spice boy is best boy.

[@blottotv2155]

Indeed I am

[@guidomista3570]

Only half?

[@SchlopFlopper]

@@salphoris911I summon *Prohibition Hammer*

[@christianroberts3996]

"What's next? They will be bigger, taller, and stronger than me?" 2:08 God I hope so

[@spoopyd.8910]

Female Custodians? Give me artwork of them naked and oiled up like the other Custodians then.

[@salt-d2032]

based

[@AshleyBreads]

You know what, fair. Free the Custiddies.

[@TheDimir]

Real discrimination right here.

[@sinbotosimmons7624]

@@AshleyBreads not something I thought I would read today.

[@Codes911]

Pillar women custodes. I'm here for it.

[@grompel2]

magnus in a nutshell Magnus: oh noo my hous is burning i have to save my dad voice from a van: i got you buddy i have something that my help Magnus: oh thank you stranger (after using it) ohh my got is fucki*ng flamethrower

[@VictorIV0310]

Balam Industries sponsored field trip to the Warp.

[@latrodectusmactans7592]

Magnus has his own sewing club.

[@Dracobyte]

Is this an Armored Core reference?

[@commissarbearz]

no pathetic box can hold me like this

[@salphoris911]

"The corpse emperor!? My father!?"

[@conradwerth6954]

Once again, if the Emperor was just 1% of a better father, maybe one of the traitor legions would have remained loyal. If Big E had just said something to the effect of "You are all psykers, to single out one son for his gifts is to be a hypocrite. Especially you, Mortarion." then maybe Magnus would have remained loyal. Also, if Big E had just given Magnus ANY DETAILS on what was in the warp, then maybe he wouldn't have been mislead by Chaos.

[@williamings773]

People like to blame the Emperor for everything, but in reality the Primarchs all had their own critical flaws. Magnus' was his ego. For the Emperor to put the time i to each Primarchs (all adults by the way) that people say he should have, he would need way more time then is realistically possible.

[@jusquanorthwind1016]

@@williamings773I think while Big E was correct in his assumption that the webway must be completed to save humanity, he screwed up in trying way too hard to speed run it. He had enough time that he could have at least stopped half of the traitors from turning on him. I will concede it’s not entirely his fault. I’ll be the first to say big e is not the #1 reason that the heresy happened, but definitely he’s in the top 3.

[@Gustav_Kuriga]

@@williamings773 He could literally talk to Magnus with his psychic powers before they even found the planet Magnus was on. He could literally talk to Magnus any time he wanted. ANY TIME. He had all the time in the world.

[@carna-9501]

If any of the traitors aside from Magnus were to remain loyal it would probably be Morty or Pertie. Konrad was on the edge of insanity, Horus was fully corrupted by the 4, fulgrim had the laer blade(why didn't Big E notice it?) And we still don't know if Alpharius Omegon were loyal or traitor in their entirety.

[@Gingerallmighty]

Meh

[@lordtirek236]

It’s a shame people forget that while Russ fought Magnus and won: 1- Magnus was directing escape routes for his people. 2- He was helping the Sons via warp against the Wolves. 3- Actually putting up a good fight against Russ. 4- Magnus is a nerd, he wasn’t a battle fanatic like Russ. That he punched a heart of Russ out while all this was going on- speaks more for Russ’ ability to fight, holding back or not.

[@drakeyork241]

And don’t forget he was being hard nerfed by all of the sisters of silence and the space wolfs having anti psyker powers like leman’s howl.

[@teejay1646]

​@@drakeyork241 yeah Magnus is basically the superman of the primarchs. He would blatantly win 19v1 if the story isn't able to nerf him to balance the fight

[@drakeyork241]

@@teejay1646 he is a stronger psyker than Malcador, the man who was so strong he made threats to the primarchs such as “I will unmake you” with said threats being treated VERY seriously by the primarch whom was at the time being Vader force choked. Or the time Malcador was being choked out by Mortarian and was still calm enough to question himself as to exactly how much force would be needed to escape from Mortarian’s grasp without being so extreme that Mortarian would hate him further and try to kill him due to his distain for psykers. We can also guess how strong Malcador is based on the fact that his personal throne is decorated with two skulls. One skull being marked II while the other being marked XI. The Roman numerals for 2 and 11, the same numbers as the “missing” legions. Need I explain further. If magnus is stronger than that, and not by an insignificant margin, (Malcador having had his soul extinguished from a few hours on the throne while magnus was designed to be able to power it indefinitely.) Then he could most certainly bully any of the other primarchs any day of the week, save a tag team of both dorn and leman (both of whom have warp supressing abilities.)with a few hundred to a few thousand sister of silence spectators or POSSIBLY mortarion if he didn’t actively suppress all of his psyker abilities as well as a large chunk of his physical abilities due to the passive warp based physical enhancement all primarchs enjoy that Mortarian actively tries to cut off. But yeah, if it was all 20 other primarchs(yes, I’m including omegon as his own separate primarch) vs Magnus, I’d bet on Magnus.

[@richardduska1558]

More things to note: - It wasn't just the wolf but Custods and Sisters of silence + a Titan legion.

[@singtothesilence]

Wait, did he actually punch a heart out? I thought that was solely a TTS bit?

[@PhlegmFiddleford]

The scariest thing in 40k is probably shy

[@noahlewis6776]

Magnus just wanted to help his dad, unfortunately he did so in a very dumb way.

[@Bruceformallyknownaspipsquawk]

Now do a tier list on which primarchs are the worst dads and have the emperor with his own tier at the bottom

[@ricardoalonso8376]

Boyo, i dont care if they make the Mam-stodies army next. The greatest issue here is the lazy manner in which they change the lore. It was better when they introduced Primaris, now they inform of their latest retcon by gaslighting through twitter, instead of at least introducing this change through a novel or series. This is lazy.

[@MrKOLCOO]

Shy should have hit Bricky with a PIPE! XD missed oportunity

[@Gormathius]

YES. Specifically throwing it at him from above.

[@Dracobyte]

Damn!

[@Dracobyte]

​@@Gormathiuslike a lance?

[@stephengarforth2753]

Only thing that pisses me off about female custodes is that text to speech is no longer around so we don't get wacky memes from that show. Would have loved for our favourite oiled up totally straight dude bros meeting with their sisters

[@FinxOmally]

Love the idea of Magnus bursting into the palace like the Kool-Aid Man. Matching colour and all.

[@jroden06]

Thank you for the chair strike Shy, excellent form.

[@cnut7383]

woulda been cooler if a sister of silence got custodes tier enhancements. maybe they could be allowed break the vow of silence

[@FullMetalElric]

That would require effort. Much easier to pander and then gaslight everyone complaining about pandering as sexist. Remember, everyone complains about pride flags and black squares on twitter profile pic as performative activism, but they wouldn't do something so cheap if it didn't work on SOMEONE.

[@AshleyBreads]

@@FullMetalElricI would actually disagree slightly. Having more diversity and creativity in models is a good thing in my book. Even if it is pandering and is probably just GW trying to get points, the result is something that is at the very least neutral. It’s not like they’re forcing people to you to make your custodes all female.

[@yarus5889]

​@@AshleyBreadsadding more sisters of silence models is diversity especially since gw has ignored them for the most part. Custodes get way too much attention

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

The Custodese are becoming the Ultramarines to us Sisters of Silence fans.

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

​@@FullMetalElricSoS are so niche they are basically none existant. Female custodeans and her new short story is so fucking cool I do not care if you consider it pandering. IF they deign to give new lore to other factions other than SM we can get really cool characters! ADB had been wanting to write abkut female custodeans for a while now. He is a good author. We can get custodeans version of ahsoka (the way fans grow to love her) for female Custodeans.

[@1nulluser336]

As a custodes player thank you for addressing the recent codex and the shameless retconing for marketing

[@YoBen100]

Magnus is obsessed with knowledge. So, Magnus is 40k version of Tai Lopez.

[@aguspuig6615]

I wish they wouldve just made augmented sisters of silence, thats such a cool lore concept instead of this ''meh'' slightly lore breaking change that exists only to create some controversy

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

Us SoS fans are starving today.

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

When SoS can function outside of support team aganist daemons while actual factions kills them then maybe one day. They are so niche I forget those gals exist most of the time

[@michaelmiller2418]

HUGE props to Shy for ending the Bricky rant with a chair... that was nice

[@drussarn]

It's still just gw shit PR team that bothers me, a proper announcement and not some random tweets would have help calm down so many people Plus I think they could have been better introduced with a proper book as first appearance

[@FraySing]

I think the biggest issue with adding female custodes is that it is so clearly just being used as a shield for GW. They didnt do it because it made the story better, it didn't clarify something confusing, it is literally just for social points and so that any criticisms surrounding the situations can just be hand waved away with the sexism card. It's just like making Soldier 76 from Overwatch gay despite lore setting up a relationship with Ana, it's just like making Saint 14 and Osiris from Destiny gay despite their relationship being an incredible example of brothers in arms before the change made it into a cringy forced romantic relationship that lacks any soul or real feeling. The entire point of the change was simply social points so they can point and go "look! SEE SEE theres women in the Custodes buy our shit and dont look any farther.

[@levikarkiainen331]

I loved the book, they had restaurants where the cooks were psykers who read your mind and looked into the future and saw what food you'd like the most and they'd make it for you and bring it out.

[@matthewyeldig4608]

Glad to see Shy's looking out for Brickie, what taking out his doppleganger like that.

[@christopherhall4092]

Shy has some breaking news...Bricky owe her a new chair.

[@timhuisman2495]

Can you guys do an episode on Necromunda?

[@ArchArturo]

Yes please.

[@claypigeon7063]

At long last… the time has come. I got into Warhammer pretty recently, and I found Adeptus Ridiculous pretty much right on the New Year. I’ve been binging it every chance I get, and today, the time has come. I’ve finally caught up! I can enjoy the podcast as it comes out like everyone else! And on MAGNUS ÞE RED, no less!

[@burnielan]

Magnus is that one friend, who's really book smart but doesn't have any street smarts

[@alexscholz3438]

Magnus is probably the closest a Primarch ever gets to being a 'normal' person in a Primarch role, barring Perturabo being a 'tism rep. Everything Magnus does is straight up fairly forgivable and understandable to any normal individual, and that's why I love him. He had no reason to believe the warp/tzeentch was behind his downfall beyond superstition (Tzeentch has helped him every single time he's needed it), he had an understandable urgency to inform the emperor about the HH given just how cataclysmic it was to the galaxy at large, and his shift of demeanour during the burning of Prospero is kind of understandable given Russ immediately began burning his planet and butchering civilians en-masse. Magnus is the equivalent of a normal, kind-hearted person of the modern day being put in the body of a Primarch, and then being torn apart by the 30k/40k setting because, well, you simply don't survive this setting as a normal person. Not even as a Primarch. Magnus absolutely did wrong, but he's far from being at fault.

[@derpyboi8591]

Guilliman comes across as the most well adjusted to me, especially in 40K. Then again, Guilliman had a loving mother and father long before big E arrived

[@Spuzle2]

Russ waited for days trying to contact Magnus to come peacefully. Magnus refused to answer. He had literally locked himself in his tower for a week straight crying and decided he should just let the wolves kill them. He also is incredibly indecisive so after the wolves attacked because they were getting no response, Magnus changed his mind and decided to fight back. Straight up brought it all upon himself.

[@UnknownTuber450]

I wouldn't say the pairing of the topic and news is cataclysmic as we all know Magnus' relationship with a certain Custodian

[@DartNoobo]

"And then he overtook the planet, as is usual among primarchs" You hear that Angron? As is usual!

[@shadowinthevoid1984]

Damn there roasting magnus at 39:00 ; but then self deprecating humor is what wins for magnus. BAZINGA

[@loganchase4371]

As a KSons fan, I've always loved what a tragic character Magnus was. Nothing but the best of intentions, massive love for his sons, blinded by his own intelligence, seemingly small mistakes turned massive, betrayed by his hypocrite brothers and overly secretive father (Rune priests? Give me a break) and plain old bad decisions. There are just SO many different points where his story could've been different, so many times where the smallest nudge in the right direction would've changed everything, so many times he could've come down from the ledge, but he fell all the same, further than most and certainly further than he deserved.

[@khaledibrahim614]

Well said damn

[@theobtusemongoose3980]

Tbh, i dont really have any skin in the game. I dont play, buy models, or buy books. Im just here to learn about 40k because it interests me. The custode change doesnt bother me much but i do understand why people who have dumped a ton of money into those things have an issue with big things in lore being changed on a whim for seemingly little reason.

[@chowrites6179]

Like always, if Big E just acted like a dad just ONCE, there'd be one less lost son. The more I learn about the Primarchs the more I feel this was intentional and Big E just wants the universe in chaos just like the Chaos Gods

[@Grimpo96]

I was really hoping to escape the Custodian controversy, especially seeing Magnus as the thumbnail. Hope DK liked learning more about his OG primarch

[@alfredosaint-jean9660]

Same here. "Finally! A new Warhammer video that is not about female custodes" Silly me.

[@shimi3739]

It is really getting tiring isn't it

[@Bona_Tempora]

The skit at the beginning was really unnecessary

[@alfredosaint-jean9660]

@@Bona_Tempora Or it could have been a video of its own.

[@varkharus1894]

It is absolutely awful how much bricky is underselling the tragedy of Magnus and the thousand sons. They fought against the fate and future and had no chance of winning. They were called 1000 sons from the very beginning. That there was a 1000 left was not a coincidence. Ahriman is talking about this in the thousand sons book. They had great power and were unable to use it to prevent the future that tzeentch was showing them. And the greatest tragedy of Magnus is his hubris that he acknowledges after he breaks into the palace. Also the entity didn't whisper anything it was just there, tempting him with vast amounts of power that he could redirect to break the barrier. I love 1000 sons and their hh book is awesome.

[@Jiffedup]

Pyramids of glass and gold and paradise?...??... LOOK AT ALL THE MEGA BASS PRO SHOPS

[@koalatv315]

My custard to the custodes thing is that It took Amazon forcing them to make that change. Thats what makes me upset. They just did it for the money. They never would've done it for any other reason. Now currently waiting for GW to announce Male Sisters of Silence

[@loukabarone]

Man, Big E got one of the worst fates in the heresy, and he's the one that deserved it the most

[@green_creeper288]

Magnus the Red is how you're supposed to write "cares too much about his friends" as an ACTUAL CHARACTER FLAW.

[@JohnSmith-u8s2t]

When DK finally gets a quote right, it's genuinely a bit wholesome how happy he gets.

[@yaboimagnus5845]

Introduced femstodes Nerfed them into oblivion and beyond. What did GW mean by this?

[@floricel_112]

That means next week is THOUSAND SONS BABEYYY!

[@christopherclayton5500]

A correction: the Flesh Change happened much more often to the Thousand Sons who WEREN'T psykers.

[@ryenard]

I'm a very newbie in wh lore and this series has been my intro and i will never forget when bricky talked so passionate about how the sisters were created and how cool it was for them to have an all female with their own lore amd etc and i couldn't agree more. As it was pointed out in the start in the video, in a world of retcons, this one is wtv just one more but the way it was done just leave me sad.

[@JohnSmith_1920]

BAH GAWD, IT'S SHY WITH A WOODEN CHAIR!! GAWD-EMPRAH AS MY WITNESS, HE'S BROKEN IN HALF!!

[@NacnudPinky]

"NO PATHETIC BOX CAN HOLD ME!" - Magnus the Red

[@jq4767]

Just gonna put the obligatory quote here: "Horrible mistake number 999: I PUT MY TRUST IN TZEENTCH!"

[@tkelly6121]

Female custods are a dumb retcon but yea dumb retcons are exactly what games workshop is known for. Hell I remember when custodes were introduced the first time and I thought they were a dumb retcon to try and sell a new army(Which is exactly what they were :D)

[@conradbarnes9671]

Ok that news skit was amazing well done guys keep up the great work.

[@DarthAndrew520]

There was also that time Peter Turbo pulled Magnus aside to show him a cool recreation of a warp gadget that if used properly could help navigate through the warp. And as Magnus was needing out over it Perty hulk smashed it right there and basically said "Stop doing warp shenanigans. Dad said its bad"

[@theophiledumont3291]

Luv me books Luv me cyclops Luv me scrolls Luv me dust Ate furries Ate vikings Simple as

[@NerdGasims]

And Shy knocked his block off with that chair shot! This is a slobber knocker folks!

[@bisine]

Absolute barn burner!

[@Dracobyte]

And the crowd goes wild!

[@calvinheslop2585]

I think that if GW had said okay after that ass kicking by the tyranid nord queens(i think that's what they were anyway might misrembering the story) we need to replenish our custodian ranks and we gonna use females this time there wouldn't be half as much backlash.

[@ysbrann3059]

but they didn t wan t to do that, they wanted to have them always been there, because it make more sense.

[@calvinheslop2585]

@@ysbrann3059 cant tell if you being sarcastic or not, but to me it would make more sense if Guiliman was like "okay mr kawl you did great making the primaris boys how bout you make a few Custom gals for us"

[@ysbrann3059]

@@calvinheslop2585 The emperor recruited the 10 000 from the children of the terran noble to prevent a insurrection from them by turning their children into loyal soldier. It would make no sense to left half of them alone because of their gender and let them free to plot shit ot claim back their right

[@ANDELE3025]

The Norn "not-a-tyrant" units, the queens stick in space unless on Dominatrix. And 100%. Hell you could give a excuse of the banana boys pulling a uno reverse and raiding the clowns for old tech notes from the Emperor. Or bloody damn let the Blood Ravens steal some of the squat tech as despite the chaos corruption the actual gene mod vats/cyber vats work safely. You can even add the old Archeotech squad that was hunting for remnants of the blackstone fortresses and the one named Man of Iron into the plot that ends up being saved by Custodians sent out to reinforce+a Silence gal with the ending of the plot being that one of the girls is willing to sacrifice herself to test the tech as part of a attack to let the BR librarian actually use his warp powers for the twist reveal or something.

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

Are norn queens still canon? They are completely sentient/sapient tyranids right?

[@ETREDROOMREVIEWS]

It's not the outcome, it's the reason behind the change...

[@JC-oq5ex]

Props to the writers who did the Dreadnought in space marine 2.. The coolest and most badass brother in the game who yeeted a statue at a warp drake and wanted to stomp Magnus himself.