Adidas Adizero Adios Pro 4 after 100 Miles: Most Durable Super Shoe... Ever!?

[@DoctorsofRunning]

Tried the Pro 4? Share your thoughts with us.

[@cleric1220]

How’s the width? For reference, I mostly use the superblast (1 & 2) and do well with the width. I also used two pairs of the Adios Pro 3, and was okay with their width. Is the Adios Pro 4 wider?

[@RedhoodedNightwing]

The heel tab is to make it easier to pull it on

[@stubestrong]

bit of a killer just to get into AP3 and love it as a passive stability runner, maybe grab some extra pairs as backup

[@devanteross2838]

Great review! I really hope adidas sent you the Evo SL Matt! Get well soon!

[@DoctorsofRunning]

Not yet! Fingers crossed!

[@billeva8457]

Wow Matt. The AP3 is my current marathon racer and I was excited about the V4 but now as a heel striker I am a little nervous about changing to the V4 for that long of a distance.😅

[@TubeCrocs]

Definitely go a half size up... check the size guides in centimeters as opposed to Uk & US sizing. Extremely comfortable on longer run Very responsive, Definitely a better ride that Pro3

[@David-cg7ms]

yes sizing guide truly matters

[@jonahplays7113]

if my feet length is 26.5cm, what size should i get?

[@David-cg7ms]

44

[@lebratjp]

Did you size up compared to your normal size or the size of your AP3?

[@TubeCrocs]

@@lebratjp example: if your UK9 in the Boston 12. You would be UK9.5 in Pro4 and well as EvoSL

[@justin3017]

Thanks for the thorough review, as always!

[@matthanna1980]

I got 1500km from my Adios Pro V3. The most resilient super shoe out there IMO

[@АндрейДереза-и9л]

Totally agree, I have about 1100K on mine and they still going strong. Of course, the bounce not like it was first 500K, but still good enough. And there is no problem with outsole, grip is excellent.

[@jimmyhart3191]

Yep, light strike pro is the best foam by far

[@karls8989]

yea i got mine and took it out for a maiden voyage last weekend and wow so much more fun than my adios pro 3

[@paulmulks]

How have you got a pair when they've not been released yet?

[@camcamcig]

@@paulmulksit’s been released under raffle situations by Adidas and Running Warehouse among others. Also there have been Paris for purchase available at the major marathons this fall starting at Berlin

[@Nextman916]

Super informative review 👏 thank you!

[@coloriques]

I chew through my left heel too. Thanks for the update, it looks promising!

[@hamoudalnasser]

As a mid to forefoot striker, with some mild overpronation, (I run in neutral or stable neutral shoes, and have never used stability shoes), will this shoe work? Does it accommodate wider forefeet?

[@jimbeam4736]

I have the exact same question :)

[@jeremiahdwightsebastian3760]

Same currently using ap3

[@brandall101]

The outsole is CPU, commonly used in Chinese super shoes. It's known as being ridiculously durable, holding tread past 1000 miles, so of course it's going to show no wear at 100. Drawback is being fairly loud/slappy with a bit less traction.

[@devanteross2838]

Also the purpose of the tab is to help get the shoe on 😅 Never really use it either but at this point it’s the Adidas “look” I’ve adopted haha.

[@revivalist70]

Thank you Matt

[@dale.gallaza]

Bought the AP4 today. Went a half size up because i felt my pinky toe is being cramped a bit. I compared it with my AP3 and found the toe box is a tad narrow this time.

[@edwinduisburg8138]

There are more suitable options for 5-10K runs such as Takumi Sen and upcoming new Adios 9 with full length lightstrike pro. Seems to me this shoe doing whats is supposed to do.

[@NateCrail]

The Adios Pro 3 is the most durable top racing shoes based on my experience and what I've seen online. Curious to see how the AP4 foams compares to the AP3 after 150+ miles.

[@LukenotLuc]

You mention this might suit faster runners, but what would you view as the pace cut off? 3.5hr marathon, 3hr?

[@B.Wise.B.Running]

Great review !!

[@sennysoon]

6:32 that's a pull-up tab, so you don't have to squish your fingers behind your heel when putting the shoe on.

[@jonathanbalangon9671]

Is the Adios Pro 3 much more stable in your opinion?

[@jeroen1989]

The heel ear is just a pull tab toe my knowledge... also on the adios 8 for example

[@matthewmyers7826]

Love the Ap3. I’m primarily a forefoot striker but left foot starts to be more forefoot to almost heel with fatigue, aiming for a sub 3 hour. Would this be fast enough for this to have an advantage over the ap3?

[@DillonJan]

It’s a pull tab, that is on the heel collar of the shoe

[@ricardoreis3844]

Alphafly 3 or Adios Pro 4 for London Marathon ( I love Alphafly and Adios Pro 3, having ran 26.2 in both)?

[@betomf1903]

Great review! How does it compare with the Evo 1?

[@Trailrunner1978]

Durability in supershoes like the Pro 2 and 3 is extreme. Although outsole gets worn through the foam itself on the worst contact points, the foam itself is so resilient and has grip in it self. Pro 2 is better after 250 km. Same with Takumi Sen 8-9. But then again people take Vaporfly to 1000 km. No problem.

[@markoljustina]

Endorphin ?

[@jimmyhart3191]

People run in the dead vaporflys that doesn’t mean they’re any good at that point though. Lightstrike pro actually holds up over time and performs way better than zoom x from the start.

[@vallis68]

For those who run half marathon at a pace of 4:50 - 5:00 (km), would you recommend this shoe?

[@MLHunt]

For a beginner/'hobby jogger' like myself, the AP3 is a great shoe. Don't think I'll be jumping on this one. Maybe in a few years I'll be ready for a shoe like this lol

[@radoslavstoev4550]

Do not underestimate yourself. The shoe looks pretty similar to the old one, just a little softer and bouncier. If you like the Pro 3, I am pretty sure you are gonna get along with this.

[@MLHunt]

@radoslavstoev4550 thanks for the encouraging words dude

[@dyingpentas]

Stability is really a concern

[@pbnotj1]

I’m slower than the guys doing these reviews but I have tracked reviews of pro 4 as pro 3 was the only super shoe I found on sale as an amateur for a reasonable price . I’m on my a second pair as I really liked the durability and tempo speed day versatility of adidas pro 3. glad to hear the pro 4 is still durable . I’m not sure about the toe box fit issue ; that might be a deal breaker for me .

[@FtL_CS]

Is it durable to use in most of your runs?

[@FtL_CS]

Would you say that I can get value from these on 5:00/km paces? or am I better of using trainers instead.

[@hiimgiovi]

No need for carbon shoes at that pace! Go for something less aggressive like a boston12. More than enough

[@David-cg7ms]

@@hiimgiovi false information, boston 12 has carbon tool and slow paces benefit a lot from carbon + racing foam, more than elite, specially heavy runner that activate the propopulsion at slower paces.

[@nguye578]

It depends on what you want out of your runs. Are you actively trying to run faster and have plateaued using daily trainers? Then maybe it's worth looking into for $250. But if you are fine with running 5 min/km (which is around what I run too), maybe you opt for a more comfortable shoe that costs half that amount. Both should work at that pace, "value-wise" you just have to decide if you care enough about the ability to run faster and if it's worth the extra money.

[@hiimgiovi]

@@David-cg7ms nope. Boston does not have a carbon plate… it has glass fiber infused rods. And It is far different from carbon supershoes. Boston12 is a super trainer indeed which is more than enough for 5:00/km pace. I run in boston up to 3:30/km pace and they are fine. Below that I can feel it is not optimal and I use takumi sen 9

[@David-cg7ms]

@@hiimgiovi boston 12 is not suited for heavy runners, adios pro 3 or 4 have carbon plates ? ;)

[@Passthecucci911]

Should I pick up the AP3 still as a racing shoe/ supertrainer for 2025? Thinking about getting one if there a good deal

[@DoctorsofRunning]

Worth a look if you can find it for a good offer!

[@jomelltan9296]

Yes. We need durability not just fast and aggressive. Some of my racing shoes don’t bother run again a marathon and turned into a daily trainer after due buying another pair colour way or new other brand racing shoe or newer version.

[@robnet77]

Could you please list the amount of miles you were able to run with previous super shoes? I seem to remember another creator ran over 800km in his Vaporflys 2. Obviously some performance degradation is expected as well as the mileage increases. That would be a great video! Thanks.

[@General1Cal]

My Pegasus with 500 miles have been great very slight wear

[@camcamcig]

Durability is never the knock on pegasus. They are known for lasting forever

[@dwhdai]

Isn’t the adios pro 3 one of the most durable super shoes out there? It’s also a bit confusing because at the beginning of this video you said the poppiness of the foam at faster paces in the AP4 went away pretty quickly, so wouldn’t that imply the foam is less durable?

[@HolliewoodOriginal]

He said the outsole was durable, not the midsole foam

[@dwhdai]

From about 7:30 onwards he compares how AP4 provides “tons more life” after about 100 miles than the AP3 did. Seems to contradict what he said earlier in the video about the bounciness being noticeably less after about 50 miles. The AP3 is also widely known has one of the more durable super shoes, and it’s strange to me that the AP4 which is lighter (and presumably less outsole thickness?) and has more compliant foam would be more durable.

[@brandall101]

It's difficult to know really as most super shoes lose their maximum pop pretty early in their lifespan, but can continue to be great for speed work for a long time before the foam is dead. AP3 and AF3 are great examples where many runners take them up to 500 miles and beyond, but aren't really doing competitive running with them past the 150 mile point. But this is hard to parse as he's saying it's rather significant... who cares about the outsole if the foam is dead at 300 miles. TPU can last like 1000 miles on Chinese supershoes this isn't some amazing insight.

[@dwhdai]

@ yea exactly. it’s not clear what he’s referring to when he says “durability”. I’m guessing he’s referring to the fact that the outsole is still fully intact, which is rare for him, but I’d say that’s not really useful info for most runners as we don’t rip out the outsole of our shoes after 100miles (or ever tbh)

[@AreBirkeli]

Hello! Nice video. I wear size us 9.5 (EU 43) in the Nike Vaporfly 3, is it the same size in the Pro 4? Are Birkeli

[@DoctorsofRunning]

@@AreBirkeli I would consider going up a half size if you are doing longer distances. If you want a close/snug fit, stay with a 9.5

[@lenjanssen9600]

Would you recommend for slower runners?

[@domodoeslife4741]

He said no

[@wojtekbe]

Adios Pro 4 vs Endorphin Elite 2 🙂

[@markoljustina]

i should run second marathon in Sky Paris and plan to buy some of those

[@alangray8952]

Will you be sharing the thoughts on running in a pair 0.5 size bigger? Quite keen to get these for my spring marathon when released

[@DoctorsofRunning]

@@alangray8952 David has a half size bigger. In our written review he talks about it!

[@alangray8952]

@DoctorsofRunning great, I'll search for that this evening 👍

[@AreBirkeli]

Okay. Thanks. That was a fast response 😅

[@MLHunt]

David, with regard to barely getting the AP3 to 100 miles, did you wear out the outsole or did the foam die? I'm only asking because I'm a slow, midfoot/forefoot striker who doesn't wear outsoles very much, but I am heavy (200 lbs), so I tend to kill shoes by beating the foam to death. So how the foam holds up over time is the thing I look at when assessing a shoe's durability.

[@bobotmeister]

too bad, I live in the tropics. If you don't have environmentally controlled storage... midsole seperation happens way before anything 😅😓 year 2 or 3 considering you have a large rotation.

[@FtL_CS]

Does this shoe work with overpronators?

[@DoctorsofRunning]

@@FtL_CS no. It is soft and the heel/midfoot is not that stable. So maybe over shorter distances but it may be a challenge over longer distances

[@nicholas5396]

Its a pull tab.

[@bbnd5476]

The most durable shoe that loses it's bounce after 60miles? 😅

[@leonardoviana4986]

the outsole and midsole is a copy from quiaodan plaid

[@geert574]

"v3 was decent I managed to get it to 100 miles" bro out here talking about 100 miles as if its achievement thats like 1 month use I'd be suing company if any shoe didnt last a month 😂

[@michaeltanel3815]

You must be new to the channel. 😂 Matt tears through shoes like a fiend.

[@TruTube.1.]

Wobbly Heel. not for me.