Adios Pro 2 vs. Endorphin Pro 2 - Supershoe Battle

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kofuzi

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The Saucony Endorphin Pro 2 and the Adidas Adios Pro 2 are highly anticipated followups to shoes that were very successful in their inaugural editions. But it turned out that the Endorphin Pro 2 was an upper update while the Adios Pro 2 made some subtle but noticeable changes. So which approach to v2 makes for the better super shoe?
0:00 intro
0:28 Run testing
2:00 Disclosures
2:49 Specs Endorphin Pro 2
4:27 Specs Adios Pro 2
6:59 midsoles
9:38 carbon fiber
13:43 uppers
14:59 champion
Disclosures: I purchased the Adios Pro 2. The Endorphin Pro 2 was sent to me for purpose of review. No one is paying me to make this video or to include a shoe in this video. No one will have a chance to preview any of my footage or my thoughts before this video goes up on youtube.
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@uscfroadie
@uscfroadie 2 жыл бұрын
I think you nailed it on the review. I love my Endorphin Pros, but I only use them when I know I will be running fast. Maybe now compare the Adios Pro 2 to the Metaspeed Sky’s.
@ZanicL3
@ZanicL3 2 жыл бұрын
Good review! Just bought the RC Elite V2 for my upcoming marathon a minute ago!
@Dussen
@Dussen 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Endorphin Pro 2 is the super show that works best for me. Probably because it, just as you pointed out, feels a bit more like a traditional racing flat, however with the benefits of a high stack carbon plated. For half marathons or longer races the Endorphin Speeds are fast enough for me. :)
@lawleejohn
@lawleejohn 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love running in my adios pro 2! They are fun to run in when you hit those sweet spots. Not trying to start a sneaker battle, but I prefer these over my vaporfly next % 1 and 2.
@lifephorce
@lifephorce 2 жыл бұрын
Me too 👍 Can you you do a shoe off? 😊
@runningandreading9633
@runningandreading9633 2 жыл бұрын
Good review 🔥🙌
@MauricioFragale10
@MauricioFragale10 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect review. Being very objective, regarding all was said about the Endorphin Pro, it sumarizes all the reasons why most of runners out there, including myself and some pros, think the Endorphin Speed is far better than the Pro. The Adios 2, without any doubt, is a fantastic shoe.
@paulcain1285
@paulcain1285 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, been thinking about the Pro+ but I think it’s probably not for me and stick with the Pro2 for faster work (10KM and below) been really impressed with the Adidas offering. Thanks 🙏
@bendrno2233
@bendrno2233 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kofuzi, What is your favourite(s) race shoes and which shoes would you use for say a 5km road race to full marathon?
@srgmidgetpanda2121
@srgmidgetpanda2121 2 жыл бұрын
I have the endorphin pro 1s and I absolutely love them want to try the 2s!!!
@paultimothyL
@paultimothyL 2 жыл бұрын
Yo!! Thanks for another great Super shoe battle! I ran a marathon this past Saturday and the Adidas adios Pro 2 and smashed my PB by 25 minutes! I'm 46 and ran a 3:09 Marathon which should easily get me into Boston with over 10 minutes under the BQ time! I'm super excited and I bought the adios Pro 2 because of your initial review on it! Also the day after the marathon I got married and because the adios Pro 2 is so forgiving of a shoe I have yet to have any major Doms 😁😁. Thanks again for the great shoe reviews!!❤️
@sunny19886
@sunny19886 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s amazing!! I only did 1 marathon at Chicago so far did 3:32 with adidas pure boost, I need to start working harder this year to get to 3:20 or below need better training, shoes and workouts. I need suggestion which marathon races that are flat/scenic be good to do?
@paultimothyL
@paultimothyL 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunny19886 Erie Pennsylvania has a great flat scenic route!! One of my favourite! It's in September. Keep pushing and you will get sub 3:20 no problem! 👍👍
@franksabel
@franksabel 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing channel! I’m new to running, and I find your reviews really helpful! Have you tried the Adidas Adizero Takumi Sen 7? Not much info online. Do you know how this shoe compares to the other lower stack Adizeros? Thanks!
@lifephorce
@lifephorce 2 жыл бұрын
Great review 👍 I love the AAApro2 and have just got it's big crazy brother .. the Prime X 😯 Which do you think is the fastest for a 5K.. these 2 siblings or the Vaporfly?? Brandon from Running Shoes Guru thinks it's the Prime X.. on a very straight route 😁🤔
@alexandernielsen7040
@alexandernielsen7040 2 жыл бұрын
Planning on getting endorphin plus (+) ?
@brendalogan3784
@brendalogan3784 2 жыл бұрын
Do the blue laces on the endorphin pro bleed for you? I have v1 of the endorphin speed and on hot and humid days, my fingers end up blue after they are untied.
@juanseaforth5111
@juanseaforth5111 2 жыл бұрын
Another great review I can wait to see your review on the Saucony Endorphin Pro+.
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 2 жыл бұрын
The initial reviews coming out suggest the upper is feather-light yet holds the foot really well!
@giovanbattistafichera8439
@giovanbattistafichera8439 2 жыл бұрын
the only news I care about is seeing these shoes at a more affordable price point. It's not just Nike making them now, where's the competition? Did they all agree not to sell them for less than $200 or what?
@Syd7088
@Syd7088 2 жыл бұрын
Is the sweet spot / smoothness vary from different people on how they strike? May I know how did happen to you? Thanks 🤟🤟
@syuen8888
@syuen8888 2 жыл бұрын
I never have Adidas and Saucony but I ran Nike Alphafly, Vaporfly, and Hokka. So no idea which sizes for me if I buy online from Adidas and Saucony. For my buying reference, please advise me which size you have for those four brands mentioned above.
@RileyRunTheCity
@RileyRunTheCity 2 жыл бұрын
Let's GOOOOO Adidas!! I like that they've increased the room in the toe box
@michaelsenft3608
@michaelsenft3608 2 жыл бұрын
Will wonders never cease? Is it my eyes, or have both shoes increased the size of the toe box and begun to provide an ergonomically correct shape (a la Altra and others) instead of the geisha bound foot profile?!!
@josephgschwartz
@josephgschwartz 2 жыл бұрын
You have to love the honesty of the Adidas traction pattern or lack thereof. That shoe clearly tells you I want to dry track I want to cold day let's go fast.
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
I ran fartleks with the Adios Pro 1 in the snow and also in very wet conditions. the grip is there.
@rogerstoffel4112
@rogerstoffel4112 2 жыл бұрын
I completly agree with you. 10K to Marathon the Adios Pro2 prooves that thats the fastest running shoe out there. The Endorphin 1 I liked better.
@ramblingrunner2172
@ramblingrunner2172 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! If you were running a 10k which would you choose? That seems like the midpoint of your decision tree.
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
For a 10k, I might go with the Endorphin Pro
@espacesX
@espacesX 2 жыл бұрын
5k/10k is the discipline the adidas adizero Takumi Sen 8 is developed for.
@georgesa.videau8332
@georgesa.videau8332 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! About the fit, did you have both same size? Thanks.
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
Same size 9
@georgesa.videau8332
@georgesa.videau8332 2 жыл бұрын
Ok. Thank you
@tigerjazz61
@tigerjazz61 Жыл бұрын
I always buy last year’s shoes at discounted prices. Just picked up the Endorfin Pro 2’s at half price but also got the Adidas Sen 8’s at half price as an Adidas member. I won’t be doing any full marathon runs in the near future but will do many 5K and 10K runs. I’m hoping both these shoes will perform great for me.
@kofuzi
@kofuzi Жыл бұрын
those are two excellent 5k/10k racers
@chucky1golf
@chucky1golf 2 жыл бұрын
Adidas adizero Pro2 are a great fit shoe for me, the lightstrike is a joy to run in esp on good roads. Otherwise I find Nike Invincibles to be very similar.
@davidodoherty349
@davidodoherty349 2 жыл бұрын
Any supination issues in the Adios Pro 2? I saw another reviewer (Ben Parkes) say the medial flare was forcing his foot to strike on the outside and he had to consciously prevent his ankles rolling.
@crashdavis721
@crashdavis721 2 жыл бұрын
I saw that as well, surprised he didn't go over on that ankle to be honest
@supragraf
@supragraf 2 жыл бұрын
I supinate with both feet at foot strike but try to correct it so it’s a little more neutral. With these shoes it is basically impossible to overpronate. These shoes made me supinate very aggressively. I wouldn’t wear these shoes on the track or any course with lots of turns. If you’re running in a relatively straight line you’ll be okay. The shoes are so close to being amazing. I love how stiff it is. It is great for slightly larger runners
@williamdyer7569
@williamdyer7569 2 жыл бұрын
@@supragraf Good news for me because I have a mild case of plantar fasciitis on my right foot.
@espenandersen3138
@espenandersen3138 2 жыл бұрын
when you talk about the timing of the foam/plate, whats your cadence? I got a fast cadence and really like the pro2, the turnover is great.
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
at working paces, I'm a bit above 180
@espenandersen3138
@espenandersen3138 2 жыл бұрын
@@kofuzi kool, thats where I am too, maybe its time to try the adidas ones :)
@juancaperez2000
@juancaperez2000 2 жыл бұрын
Comparing both companies, which one evolves more between their respectively V1 and V2? Asking because you have the chance to run in all of them
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure I understand the question, but I think you’re asking which shoe is more different from its predecessor? That would be the Adios Pro 2. The Endorphin Pro 2 is so similar to v1 that I’ve been advising people to just get v1 if it can save them a few bucks
@El_myth
@El_myth 2 жыл бұрын
What was with that Simpsons slide around 5:30?
@mopoffool
@mopoffool 2 жыл бұрын
The AP2 is growing on me after 34 miles, but the heel seems a little too big. I've thought that at first about other Adidas shoes too, though, but then somehow the heel stops getting in my way as much after some more miles. So maybe that'll happen with the AP2 as well. But I do wish the heel drop was 2mm or so less.
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
ap1 sounds like the shoe for you. it's an 8mm drop with a bit more padding in the heel
@mopoffool
@mopoffool 2 жыл бұрын
Is it still available anywhere?
@damjankrajnc7315
@damjankrajnc7315 2 жыл бұрын
What size would it be for me in Adios pro? I run in Endorphin pro 46.5. Thanks
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
i went with the same size in each shoe
@eriktred
@eriktred 2 жыл бұрын
I’m loving my adios pro 2….it may be in use for Chicago.
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about the Adios Pro 2 for CIM for me in December
@edusalas6913
@edusalas6913 Жыл бұрын
Hi. I want to run 1000 mts under 3:00. My weigh is 87 kgs. Takumi is nice for that or what you prefer? Thanks
@kofuzi
@kofuzi Жыл бұрын
I love the Takumi for shorter races. I think the Takumi Sen 8 would be a great choice. If it's on a track and you will be racing this distance frequently, you may want to consider a long distance spike
@edusalas6913
@edusalas6913 Жыл бұрын
@@kofuzi but takumi go well if I have heavy weigh? I though that adiós pro could be better...
@espacesX
@espacesX 2 жыл бұрын
The Rubber at the "adidas" is rubber coming from climbing shoes, except the one segment showing the Continental Signet. The way to set up and place Rubber as used on climbing shoes is as it is. Just have a Look on climbing shoes by La Sportiva, Five.Ten / 5.10 (by adidas), Scarpa, Boreal, etc...
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@nick5422
@nick5422 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, from what I hear adidas bought out a climbing company (the name escapes me), and utilized that rubber for these shoes
@espacesX
@espacesX 2 жыл бұрын
@@nick5422 5.10 / Five.Ten. The Compounds adidas uses are Five.Ten Stealth or Phantom.
@jesusm..
@jesusm.. 2 жыл бұрын
Is the Adidas Pro 2 more or less unstable than the Nike Next %?
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
Less in the forefoot, more in the mid foot and heel, in my opinion
@bananadude9642
@bananadude9642 2 жыл бұрын
So what are you running in for the upcoming Chicago Marathon?
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
🍌🍌🍌
@bananadude9642
@bananadude9642 2 жыл бұрын
@@kofuzi but that’s what I’m gonna run in, mate. See you in Chicago.
@FreddyKarlsson1
@FreddyKarlsson1 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone tried both and know if the sizing is comparable? Is either more snug, narrow, or about the same?
@lifephorce
@lifephorce 2 жыл бұрын
I think the AAAPRO2 is shorter and narrower than the Endorphin Pro1.. in a UK9
@fabsterun
@fabsterun 2 жыл бұрын
I'd go for saucony . For comfort i suppose. Adidas aren't very stable
@beatenbytheclown
@beatenbytheclown 2 жыл бұрын
Might be in the minority here but I preferred the cellarmesh on the Adios Pro 1 to cellarmesh 2.0.
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
I also enjoyed them both, but I think either the material or the cut of v2 seems to fit my foot better
@ptlewis2000
@ptlewis2000 2 жыл бұрын
But no size 14? Is that right?
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid I don't have information one way or the other
@ptlewis2000
@ptlewis2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@kofuzi They don't. Which is probably good I would've bought them. Asics has same problem. :(
@panagiotislozos6521
@panagiotislozos6521 2 жыл бұрын
Alphafly vs adios pro 2 maybe😃 ?
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
I no longer have any alphafly, but I believe I did the comparo using Adios Pro v1.
@panagiotislozos6521
@panagiotislozos6521 2 жыл бұрын
Hm would've been insightful to see the new adios pro vs the nike. I hope you can get your hands on the new nature edition alphafly, a review/comparison would be 👌
@charvlim5159
@charvlim5159 2 жыл бұрын
“It looks like boost, feels like boost” -because it is boost, how did they get away with it not being associated with boost?? Ask anyone and they’re going to say its boost upon first look..
@caseypetty4721
@caseypetty4721 2 жыл бұрын
Except it's Pebax, not TPU, so clearly not boost. Much, much lighter.
@nick5422
@nick5422 2 жыл бұрын
Much better than boost, lighter and more responsive
@espacesX
@espacesX 2 жыл бұрын
I would Like to recommend you that you let Check the Mobility of your toes from the metarsalheads Up by an expert. As you pronate you may have already an effect on your feet due to overcushioned shoes with too much Toe-Spring. The earlier you Ran against the carbon-plate in the Endorphin Pro/Pro 2 when it's flat or moderately uphills this maybe root-caused by already present dis-function of the feet. Train with Joe Nimble nimbleToes Addict to offer the right Fitness-Training for your feet. They will learn again how to gait-cycle and propulse without too much Toe-Spring and No Plates at all. Train in "The Addict" and Race in any Kind of footwear you Love or Just Like...
@frauhorn
@frauhorn 2 жыл бұрын
I say 'Nyke' not 'Nigh-kee"
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
Are you British?
@frauhorn
@frauhorn 2 жыл бұрын
@@kofuzi haha yes British/Australian. Of course I also say addy-dass not uh-dee-diss. This is the real running chat we need, love your channel 😀
@christiangroendyk7198
@christiangroendyk7198 2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny to me that the Europeans pronounce adidas properly but not Nike
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 2 жыл бұрын
Adidas is a European company and Nike obviously isn’t. That’s probably why.
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
I think the American pronunciation of Adidas is correct, as a regionally accepted pronunciation by the brand itself (as evidenced by all their American sponsored athletes). On the other hand, no Nike sponsored athletes in Europe, as far as I’m aware, are pronouncing Nike incorrectly. But I get your joke. It is pretty funny
@raya472
@raya472 2 жыл бұрын
The other company wants everyone to pronounce it like nikey and not nike as in mike
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
They want you to pronounce it like the Greek goddess. Brits and Midwestern moms pronounce it to rhyme with Mike. As far as I know, they’re the only ones.
@raya472
@raya472 2 жыл бұрын
@@kofuzi kinda...I understand their Greek think but you can't just butcher the language to suit a particular mindset. Why not just spell it the way they want it pronounced (nikey, nykey etc). And also, I know most don't particularly pay attention to what is happening outside the US but the British once colonized almost half the world and as such the reading and writing of the English language was standard. But what's funny, for instance, some people look at Saucony and say sock- cony but don't say sock- sage for sausage. Ok thats enough for my little rant😀🙂😄
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 2 жыл бұрын
@@raya472 Why would anyone say “Sock-sage” for sausage when there’s not a hard “c” in the word as there is in Saucony? I agree with the idea of making a concession to the way a company pronounces its own name, which in their case either reflects their own language or that the brand name is derived from --such as “Nike” the Greek goddess. But if you respect the non-butchering as you (and I) do, why would you require that it be spelled to accommodate English speakers only, and especially those who don’t know the cultural reference? By the way, Saucony is a Japanese word and most Japanese words have fairly equal emphasis on all syllables compared to most Western European languages. Without knowing any Japanese you can hear that pretty well just listening to the language. So it should be pretty easy. We both know English spelling is absurdly inconsistent compared to other languages so it’s a lost cause to expect it to ever be very phonetic! Cheers Martha
@raya472
@raya472 2 жыл бұрын
@@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 thanks Martha, great stuff.
@raya472
@raya472 2 жыл бұрын
By the way, Saucony should sound like saa-ow- cony....and if said fast over and over may sound like sar or sir cony, and not sock or soc - cony....a little more of my ranting 😊 Hey everyone at the end of the day, say their names as you know it, once these brands keep giving us the good stuff, its all good.
@SuperPassiveaggressi
@SuperPassiveaggressi 2 жыл бұрын
First
@alexmctan1767
@alexmctan1767 2 жыл бұрын
The Pros are too stiff for me
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
which Pro? they're both [brand] [name] Pros.
@alexmctan1767
@alexmctan1767 2 жыл бұрын
@@kofuzi my bad I meant the Endorphin Pro
@jesusm..
@jesusm.. 2 жыл бұрын
2nd!
@jesusm..
@jesusm.. 2 жыл бұрын
Ups, no, third!
@leslie7922
@leslie7922 2 жыл бұрын
Add e das
@kofuzi
@kofuzi 2 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Run DMC. Or any American Adidas sponsored athlete.
@hanrik27
@hanrik27 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am from China's runners, in China, you are a very famous running shoes blogger. There are many people forward your videos on Bilibili and have a high playback. Because of the same as the yellow, and your special name.You have very high popularity, this is what you can't do in KZbin. We very much hope that you can upload your video to Bilibili, or Sina Weibo. This is what we see very much.In China, there are many runners, I hope you can join the Chinese website, share with us, let more people to watch your excellent evaluation, this is our urgent expectations.If you see this comment, can you give me an answer? Thank you.
@Feanaro5503
@Feanaro5503 2 жыл бұрын
It’s fine to use the American pronunciation if you’re American and have been saying it that way your whole life. The rest of the world are used to you guys saying it wrong, and it’s not a big deal. I guess I should say, anyone making a big deal of it is a douche and you should just ignore them.
@giovanbattistafichera8439
@giovanbattistafichera8439 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck these supershoes. They give unfair advantage to people, in a pretty undemocratic way. There is nothing more infuriating than being beaten by a handful of seconds by a guy that's clearly less fit than you just because they have mechanical assistance. What's next? Running marathons with bionic legs? Stop creating hype around these shoes. It seems like all you guys review and talk about is running shoes that break the bank. Guess what? THEY'RE ALL GOOD!
@Almostoncearunner
@Almostoncearunner 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno, I just glanced at it and can find Adios Pro 2 in my very normal size for $130.
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