Ads Work...but for Whom?

[@jaymepaige99]

My main goal in life is to interrupt a john green vlog in an airport.

[@megamax888]

It's funny this video is basically the precedent to patreon. Although people do enjoy the perks that are associated with the patreon model I agree with what John is saying. The primary reason for supporting a creator is to see the community grow rather than getting 30 minutes of google chat time.

[@williamrutherford553]

+I am Max Then it shouldn't be suprising that Patreon bought Subbable, a similar service started by John and Hank.

[@mrtopsyt1]

+

[@verity3616]

@@williamrutherford553 How did I miss all of these things? That's amazing. They really are the Renaissance people of our era, aren't they? Entertainment, science, literature, charity, and modernizing patronage of the arts. It's remarkable!

[@emmasantoy3318]

Alternate title- "John unknowingly invents Subbable"

[@ragnkja]

Subbable was in the works for a year before they launched it. =)

[@Tartarugamaus]

John Green + Doctor Who + Sherlock/Benedict Cumberbatch in one video = AWESOME

[@youcancallme_al]

Agreed.

[@Gergenhimer]

I'm gonna level with you. I enjoyed the Taco Bell ad before this video more than the actual video. Not because the video was bad, but because the ad was about people escaping from a distopian state where clowns feed everyone mcdonalds for breakfast, all with "blitzkrieg bop" playing in the background. It was glorious.

[@SillyStabbin]

Gergenhimer I must have missed that due to my excessive amount of adblocking software.

[@jlatoo]

+SillyStabbin Why do you have several adblock programs?

[@SillyStabbin]

Thebiggestcheese Because no single one gets them all, or all malicious scripts / attempts at harvesting my data. I run AdGuard, uBlock Origin, Ghostery, and at times, noscript. Every now and again I find something new to throw in the mix. One can never be too careful. Oh, nearly forgot the adaway on my rooted Galaxy with custom zero bloat firmware.

[@jlatoo]

SillyStabbin tl;dr

[@RisenSlash]

And this is why Patreon is awesome.

[@primoeliocesare5720]

As he said. 😃

[@pokeman747]

You're welcome for Doctor Who and Sherlock we brits have to pay for the BBC to exist

[@Tantamountninja]

We love you. We love you all.

[@tootz1950]

NGoLC And we pay to see for Doctor Who and Sherlock in many different ways. You're welcome.

[@JorgeL721]

I love the human element to the vlogbrothers and their channels.

[@NotTheSauce]

I love the public radio model because, as a student with extremely variable if any income, regular subscriptions just aren't possible. But then if there's an option to donate that coincides with a possibility to donate, I will donate to the things I love to keep them running. Also supporting + bragging is the perfect way to describe merchandise. That's great too

[@traceyaswanson]

The bit from 1:09-1:22 and the bit at 1:49 "[advertising] doesn't incentivize the best views, it incentivizes the most views" is where you're really talking about advertising as a symptom of the weakness of Modern capitalism--namely that it requires ever-increasing consumption to survive. That kind of advertising has been tasked with generating demand in places where it did not inherently exist. That's why it wants you to lean back--it doesn't want you to think to critically about it, merely to let it wash over you and let it go to work upon the parts of you that make decisions on emotional triggers. If companies were satisfied with a specific number of customers, then there'd be much less need to be constantly generating new demand. But they aren't. They are driven by the need for ever-increasing consumption.

[@chistopherspader9738]

David n Shut the fuck up and watch your ads if that's what you want

[@chistopherspader9738]

You watching those ads buddy?!

[@galaxia4709]

David n the point is that this inherently never can be for a good cause

[@Davidn1]

Galaxia Even the anti-smoking ads the CDC plays?

[@chistopherspader9738]

David n Oh, you mean the only remaining legal reminder of smoking in the media? Yes, it certainly helps to constantly remind everyone that cigarettes exist. You wouldn't want people forgetting, they might not buy them. Those ads are the only advertising left for cigarettes. Not to mention that they're still placed at eye-level behind the cash register in the most visible position possible at all of the most commonly frequented locations in daily life. The anti-smoking crusaders can't do too good of a job, what would we need them for if they succeeded?

[@GeoNeilUK]

Doctor Who and Sherlock are both BBC shows, the BBC is funded primarily by the TV Licence, basically a tax on households owning television sets. Because the BBC is funded by what essentially is a tax it basically is under pressure to produce the best shows it can as well as to be all things to everyone, a job I think it does very well but it does mean that its commercial competitors (especially those owned by one R Murdoch) tend to criticise it merely for existing (because the BBC is one of the most respected media brands in the world but it can't be bought by 21st Century Fox or Comcast) It also means if there's any hint of scandal at the BBC, the BBC pretty much falls on its sword, sacks its Director General and says that it's very, very sorry every time.

[@nickynak3]

This. I have a few issues with the BBC but for the most part it's fantastic, and it's great to watch a TV channel with no ads except those for its own programmes.

[@EWillard44]

Obviously Rainbow Dash is the best pony John!

[@MRS4EVA]

RD is just a recoloured Derpy.

[@EWillard44]

Yes, but she is still best pone.

[@Telamon8]

Сумеречня лучший пони

[@Nicolay666]

Telamon8 "she of twilight is the best male pony"? Really? How's that Googol translate working out for you?

[@MRS4EVA]

For me it reads "Twilight best pony" when translated.

[@cillyhoney1892]

So why do advertisers utilize auto play video ads? They are obnoxious and intrusive. They disrupt my internet experience. If advertisers don't like Ad Block then they should try to make ads not so noxious.

[@PvblivsAelivs]

Your claims just do not line up with the facts. People who use ad blockers frequently say that there is "no such thing" as an acceptable ad. They would not accept banner ads. They would not accept text ads. They even talk about how to use the blockers to get around paywalls. The goal is clearly to ensure that the site owners do not get paid, not to create an incentive to use tamer advertising. The actual behavior of Adblock users tells advertisers that they should look for ways to make the advertising _impossible_ to get around (as there is no pleasing the Adblock users anyway.) And while they are at it, they might as well make it even more "in your face." That's not what I want advertisers to do. But it is the most likely outcome based on the blockers.

[@cillyhoney1892]

John Undefined I never said I was a spokesperson for Ad block. I merely stated _my_ reasons for using it. Those _are_ the facts. I make no claims about why other people behave the way they do, I do not speak for them, I only speak for myself. I only know what I do and why I do it. You are projecting your bias against ad block users onto me. You are displaying prejudice. If a person tells you why they do something, it is highly insulting to turn around and tell them they are wrong. In fact, fuck you. I use ad block because I am mentally ill. I have friable feelings and commercials can be particularly hellish for me. I cry every day. If I can eliminate a thing that intrudes on my time, distracts me from what I was doing, interrupts my music _and_ twerks my emotions with sneaky psychological trickery, then I will. Fuck your judgement, fuck it to hell.

[@PvblivsAelivs]

Cilly Honey You said "If advertisers don't like Ad Block then they should try to make ads not so noxious." That only works if the typical Adblock user is only interested in blocking the most obnoxious ads. "If a person tells you why they do something, it is highly insulting to turn around and tell them they are wrong. In fact, fuck you." If you go back and read what I wrote, you will find that I made general statements about Adblock users as a group and how that is likely to influence advertisers I did not speak about you personally before because it is the collective behavior of a group and not the individual actions of an individual that is at issue here. But your actions here have provided new information. By saying "fuck you" you implicitly agree that I have described your motivations for using Adblock. You are indeed mentally ill. You have the mindset of a thief. You recognized your own motivations so well that you didn't even notice that I was speaking in third person. You took my general statement of observed behavior as a personal accusation because you knew full well that it applied to you (even though I did not at the time.) If you don't like advertising on the internet, I recommend you stay off the internet. Your response only makes me hope that they render ad blockers useless even faster.

[@PvblivsAelivs]

Cilly Honey "People who already have their conclusions drawn often do that [make dismissive 'fuck you' comments.]" They do. And you did. "which add nothing to the conversation about why I use ad block" You aren't trying to have a conversation. "You think avoiding advertising is equivalent to stealing?" I stated a method that also avoids advertising but is not equivalent to stealing. You didn't like it. The ads are the means of paying for the content. Instead, you choose to take the content while refusing the bill. " If advertising is triggering my PTSD, your answer is to stay off the internet?" The internet is full of things that would trigger PTSD, not just ads. "but I ain't stupid" You're acting it. You rely entirely on insults. You claim that I read "too much" into your previous comment. But you are demonstrating that I was spot on.

[@cillyhoney1892]

John Undefined You are not spot on, you are arrogantly telling me I don't know what I am talking about. I am trying to have a conversation, that's the only reason why I reply to you. I use insults because you are arrogant and arrogance pisses me off. I am easily irritated because of my PTSD. Deal. That has nothing to do with forgone conclusions, which you have plenty of. You have already have drawn your conclusions about what kind of person I am ("You have the mindset of a thief.") and are arguing from that position. I am telling you, you know nothing about me except for what I have told you. I draw no conclusions about you except from what I have seen from your interactions with me, all of which have been arrogant and condescending on your part. If you had stated that I am irritable and aggressive, I would have to agree. Instead you pat yourself on the back and arrogantly tell me that you are correct about me. Hogwash. You are prejudiced and biased. Life is full of triggers, not just the internet. I try to reduce triggers when I can. Ad block help reduce triggers so why should I stop using it? I'm not going to. If I was stupid I would go around telling people that they are wrong for when they tell me why they do things.( "Your claims just do not line up with the facts.") I would tell them they don't know better, that I know better. I would be smug and condescending, like you.

[@Jamoe]

Well at the moment it is Pinkie Pie :) And the final model for YT is my favourite. I only buy merchandise, not because I want to own that specific t-shirt, but because I want to support the person who enriched my life. I appreciate that connection and it is that bond I want to say thank you for. It is like buying gifts for your friends, you do it after you have established the bond. If you did it before, you are buying your friends, and that ain't sincere!

[@theodoresorrow]

This was my first vlogbrothers video. And then I went back to the very beginning and watched every vlogbrothers video in order. And now I'm back, just over a month later. What an incredible, inspiring, life-changing journey... I really encourage everyone's who's new here to do the same. See you in a month or so!

[@VampireSquirrel]

youtube never shows me ads :( is that because I'm poor?

[@bardbratberg6361]

No, that is because you are lucky.

[@datsnek]

+Rachel Evans (REvans) Who would have thought that being poor can be a good thing?

[@madisonestes6124]

Are you sure you don't have ad blocker on your browser? That could be why.

[@eeveemakeralibi]

Please elaborate on "forever is an incorrect concept".

[@Kraigon42]

I imagine he has, somewhere, on one of his channels; but that did catch my attention and I'd like that as well if he hasn't already.

[@Kraigon42]

Knowing John (note: I do not know John; I'm just a fan of Crash Course and the other science-y stuff he does), I expect(ed) something to do with the way astrophysics work and the age of the universe, but who knows? Maybe someone will find it and shed light on our ignorant skulls, but for now, eh.

[@sushrutgokhale3857]

the universe will end one day and so will youtube

[@sushrutgokhale3857]

Kraigon42 theares a theory that says that in 1 googol years all of the energy in the universe will spread so evenly that thigs will stop happening.

[@Kraigon42]

Shado assain Personally, I prefer multiverse theory; one where universes are birthed in 10-dimensional space (I believe; it's been a while since I've brushed up on my string theory), and thus only singular universes are finite.

[@PersephoneStarshyne]

You and Hank aren't the only one that are bothered by advertising. Great video, love you guys.

[@JMD3M410]

Because that was the origins for their vlog. It was created because they did not see enough of each other and only communicated textually. So now they vlog as a means of staying in touch and we just happen to enjoy it.

[@Kyermemehtar]

It's a community. We watch, not because every posting teaches us some deep truth of the universe, but rater we value the opinions of the Greens and the interaction we share with each other in the comments. There is a marked difference between those who lean back and those who lean forward. We like to lean forward. :)

[@ReitsuMeme]

Advertising is the corporate form of Taxes. There are things that we all want and can enjoy the benefits of, but don't necessarily want to pay for: Roads; bridges; a workforce that can add, multiply, and write better than what text message dictates; and content (stories/news/info). Gov uses taxes, Corps uses ads. As time is money, Corps take our time, and Govs take our money.

[@aliensinnoh1]

But if you like your internet, and you want it to be free, it needs to get paid for by someone. That someone is ads.

[@jimmyfaustjr7373]

Which is why i skip the ads as soon as i can. Unless its a movie trailer.

[@madisonestes6124]

True, although sometimes corporations take time and money when they get unfair tax perks thanks to our corrupt government, but that's another issue.

[@vladtepes97]

"There was a time when I used to get lots of ideas... I thought up the Seven Deadly Sins in one afternoon. The only thing I've come up with recently is advertising." george spiggott, aka you-know-who

[@jayhenderson2620]

Aaaand now there's ads all over KZbin ...

[@Laura_Norda]

I was in WH Smiths today, who if you didn't know, only sell like the most popular books, and the fault in our stars was right on the front shelf!! I'm totally loving that you're becoming popular over here!! In fact they had a WHOLE window display in Waterstones a few weeks ago...with Nerdfighter notes in the books in-store :D

[@ElegantEnsue]

That should be a game! Find John while he's filming in an airport!

[@BobertJunior1025]

But for who* *grabs popcorn*

[@TheRandomizers]

*nom nom*

[@mouseyboy666]

+Max Lorge has your popcorn gone stale yet?

[@BobertJunior1025]

ambertheghostdog no, its just as delicious as it was a month ago

[@youtubeuser3284]

+dhodz hoddy the popcorn is stale

[@writerconsidered]

+dhodz hoddy www.grammarbook.com/grammar/whoVwhom.asp

[@olirulz2k8]

The one thing I hate about KZbin now is the corner ad which shows products you've recently looked at. It always teases me...

[@ScottKorin]

I was trying to remember my first vlogbrothers video. I knew it was a Hank joke video, but couldn't remember which one. This discussion going on the past few videos makes me realize it was this year. I remember this. I remember being here for this conversation. For the start, and eventual demise of Subbable (and merger with Patreon)

[@TaraLingardonYoutube]

Thank you John for making me lean forward while reading TFiOS, I now own an Augustus Waters t-shirt. Stay excellent.

[@myfamilyiscrazy]

It makes me happy to know that there are other Robot Skeleton Army Nerdfighters out there. (please tell me someone understands what I'm talking about.)

[@friendsandbombs]

I'm somewhat proud that KZbin has offered me an ad saying, "Finally, a dating site for geeks. Geek 2 Geek."

[@ThePovertyofLanguage]

You should watch Amanda Palmer's TED talk about asking listeners for money, in reference to her Kickstarter. But she talks about that sense of community and asking and receiving and appreciating. Without necessarily requiring money from /every/ member of an audience.

[@AnnaBananaAPPLE]

I was in Fort Lauderdale airport on Thursday, March 7th and I saw someone sitting on a seat with a black bag next to them who looked a lot like John Green. It was probably not him but when I saw the person I was like, "It can't be John Green. He said that he wouldn't take any airplanes soon." I probably should have asked if it was him omg JOHN WAS IT YOU

In a way the old YT was lean forward The only reason to make a video was that you wanted it to be seen. True YT itself had ads but only to support the service. When partnerships came around the dumbing down started. I hope that someday a service like old YT starts, but I am less than optimistic

[@MichaelSHartman]

The best advertising medium is word of mouth, period. In my opinion the only effective medium.

[@madisonestes6124]

I don't think so. My friends have such differing opinions on everything as do online reviewers that I usually go by advertising and/or my own experience. Maybe for big purchases I will listen to others, but for movies, books, t.v. shows, etc. I usually go by advertisements. I think a lot of people do. Also, the only way to get word of mouth going is to advertise it to enough people to get it going. You can't usually start word of mouth promotion without some other kind of promotion first.

[@ikkila]

Completely off topic, but I just have to say this. Just finished Looking for Alaska, the first book I've ever read by you. It was absolutely beautiful! I can't even tell you how much I loved it. I'm definitely going to read more of your books.

[@Freyalder]

just realised I was leaning back whilst I was enjoying this...

[@gina10b]

Even John Green cannot escape the allure of Mr Handsomebatch.

[@alyssaboutelle9355]

Lean in to crowdsourcing knowledge by suggesting a title of a nonfiction book that doesn't exist yet: Crowdscribed. You vote. We write. You read.

[@lauritarox2000]

awesome moment when you realize you're watching this while leaning forward XD

[@Kadin_Bergen]

"They sell an ass-ton of tote bags." ~ John Green, New York Times Bestselling Author

[@RainbowBrunette]

He really just had dental surgery? Because his enunciation is perfect.

[@danlad857]

Its not like ads make content free they just make prices for the things you buy higher. If we just paid for the things we watched the price of goods would go down because companies wouldn't have to pay for advertising and we would not have commercials.

[@aliensinnoh1]

But we don't want to pay for things on the internet. It's supposed to be a wide open place where people from all economic situations can meet.

[@rachelmusick8511]

Not simply meet, but John uses this greeting.

[@shahusta]

My preferred ways to fund things like your channel. 1. A monthly KZbin subscription charge for an ad-free and higher-res experience, which, after a Google cut, gets distributed over the videos each user has thumbed-up during the month (rewarding quality); or if none, has watched; or if none, the money gets distributed over all KZbin in proportion to views. 2. Perks for donors, like a private forum. competitions, and events.

[@HazeDays]

Yes, but Doctor Who and Sherlock are perhaps not good examples, since they're funded by extortion (AKA the TV licence)

[@alexwhite3988]

Whilst you mentioned BBC shows and adverts, do they have ads on BBC America which is i assume how you would watch Doctor Who or Sherlock?? Like we don't in the UK on normal BBC but the TV licence covers the revenue that ads would make, and i assume you don't have to pay a licence to watch it in the USA?

[@ItsJamoTime]

Im not usually one to point this kinda random crap out but what the heck: 333,444 is the viewcount as I watch this :D This... entertained me far too much.

[@nomticholas]

"Forever is an incorrect concept" - John Green

[@isaacromer]

Sorry, I fell asleep during the new "Donald Trump+Ted Cruz tax plan" video and somehow ended up here

[@hagridisfuntohug]

wait--there were doctor who advertisments everywhere last year...thats actually how i found out about it in the first place

[@annamcginley1425]

this is the man that actually made me enjpy reading- and i mostly hate reading but not you john

[@mandype576]

BTW have you heard about Cassidy the miracle cat? He is a kitten that rides a roomba...because he has no back legs.

[@OreoKit3]

Is it sad to say the only things I got out of that video is you mentioned my three favourite television shows?

[@itsmeagain0008]

Andrew Sullivan with his blog "The Dish" is right now trying a freemium pay wall/ pbs pay what you want sort of thing. That an interesting new case.

[@jesspotter2013]

I just got the signed Brain Scoop poster from my friend for my birthday!

[@daspolemon]

Ah, what a pity, that John is not gonna read this comment, but Thanks for the shout out to Bronies.

[@Hjerta92]

I'm watching it right now in an airport

[@latinapeacechick]

*Immediately searches for kitten riding roomba*

[@laurennicole04]

Me at 3:25: Wait, did John just say "ass ton?" *rewinds and confirms

[@IshtaVlogs]

You just described about four hours of work, per video - I don't think it's that easy, especially since Michael Aranda also works on SciShow and sometimes helps Hank with Vlogbrothers videos. I vlog every day, and it's completely eaten up my evenings, and some of my mornings, and I have a family. I'm not saying more videos is impossible, just that it isn't that easy. And I got the impression this isn't just about money - it's about feeling good about the way you make money.

[@pokeflirt]

the entire time I watched this video I just thought of *****

[@DontRobMe13]

sad but true: I know the indianopolis airport better than my local airport

[@BeeCovuhhh]

I enjoyed the interview between you and Craig. Which doesn't have much to do with this video itself, but it was rather entertaining and I wanted more.

[@NCYogini]

I support my various communities (local businesses, public radio, the neighbor kids who come to my door selling cookies , my yoga community) because I want to see them thrive, make them feel like someone has their back & because I think what they are doing has great value.... Plus I also want to feel like I am connected to the greater good. Love this discussion. So very meaningful.

[@Lionesskeeper]

"Handsome-batch" - Bless you John ^_^

[@therealpoppinfresh]

John, thank you for making me lean forward. :)

[@PineappleRiot]

"Mr. HandsomeBatch." Is it too much to hope for that one day John Green and Benedict Cumberbatch meet? Because I want to see this happen. Really badly.

[@shneakay18]

Not the only one, I do have adblocker on my chrome browser

[@nicolaalice100]

The only reason the beeb doesn't have adverts is cause everyone who wants to use a tv has to pay them in the first place. It's not exactly cable.

[@DrCBonner]

Lean forward?! Don't you mean "LEAN IN" - Sheryl Sandberg™

[@nyarlotep]

I share your pain John, I got two of my wisdom teeth removed this week, what a pain... what a pain...

[@TheDrivelMaker]

Don't know the person responsible for the ads that are around the comments, but I had to pause the video because some algorithm decided that while John was talking about being in an airport and in pain, I also needed to hear about Progressive Insurances latest thing. No, computer, I don't want to hear Flo while I am trying to hear about John's day!

[@OmegaMagus5947]

John Green going to be on Graig Ferguson's show? MUST WATCH

[@brinanca]

Hey Hank, Love your show. Now for some background I am a graphic designer with a Bachelor of Commerce in Marketing. So here a short version of the spectrum about privacy vs. marketers knowing everything. Here are some assumptions: a) Advertising has value in the super macro level (in the purest sense that people need you to know they do stuff so you can enjoy the stuff they do be it a product or a service) b) We the people wanna enjoy stuff that... we enjoy. aka we want to know about the stuff that fills a need. Now that said, if marketers know nothing about who you are and what you want they have to spam the entire globe in the hopes that someone, somewhere, actually gives a shit about their thing. But if a marketer knew EVERYTHING about you (e.g. when you ate last, what colour of hair you have, if you like waffles or not, if you are a Brony) then they can sell products to the niche that is the waffle loving, brony petting, gingers. In a perfect world my iphone, or google glass would know EXACTLY when I am hungry and make a suggestion of local restaurants that are in the area I am in. But it would not make that suggestion if I had just eaten for example. Now the issue with this is... well privacy. Anyone else find it super creepy that McDonalds knows when I ate last? Oh pick me! why is that? because I am not sure what else they are doing with that information. Which is a bit of a slipper slope.. but damn it my emotions do not need to be a logical argument. So at the end of the day we have this trade off between privacy and targeted ads. And I would love to go into detail about the social and economic repercussions of both, but this is just a youtube comment and I am sure 99% of people already stopped reading.

[@brinanca]

and I meant hey John... cough

[@brinanca]

I also just realized my point, so the content actually should matter to marketers IF they understand their audience because they can target their market easier and cheaper than sending the message to EVERYONE

[@Alvinsch2]

Patreon! Check out Patreon.

[@Kaityb96]

I'm watching this from an airport.

[@NomadTL]

You're a Puff! Yes~! Yet another awesome Puff! So exciting!

[@brittanyegan1710]

John: "Forever is an incorrect concept." Me: "You're an incorrect concept."

[@be1tube]

John explains the need for Patreon/Subbable/etc. before they existed.

[@StockHug]

Yay, two amazing British shows~

[@Seraphimisdead]

Hey John, just wanted to write that I happened to find The Fault in Our Stars at the Frankfurter Airport, spontaneously bought it and read it in one sitting. Cried like a three year old. Multiple Times. I think about death to much and the book kinda scares and fascinates me. Anyway, this has absolutely nothing to do with this video, for that I'm sorry... I just got the urge to write about it and thought this was less creepy than writing you a spontaneous fanboy letter. Anyway, thank you.

[@MakeLifeADance]

And this is why nerdfighteria in so bloody awesome.

[@SibilBoychev]

I have 5 extensions for ads.... ADBLOCK... UBLOCK... and all variants of them +2 VPN and router is convigured with blocking ads domains and servers... I haven't seen an ad in 10 years now feeling great...

[@riricrisscolfer4586]

MR HANDSOME-BATCH. YOU GOT IT JOHN.

[@Kraigon42]

I'm kind of in the same boat (aside from being a cheap &^$/^?>), in that I actually feel almost _guilty_ that kickstarter always offers rewards for various levels of funding. I understand that if someone does donate a significant amount of money to a project, you can include a little shoutout or something, but for me, if I'm going to support something, I'm doing it _to support something_, not to receive some little trinket or bonus from it. Also, thumbs up for the brony shout-out.

[@0xCAFEF00D]

I've largely forgot ads were a thing. Then I occasionally see a TV and remember. Weird how I once accepted that because I liked the Simpsons.

[@PvblivsAelivs]

+James Windsor I see that you have decided you have no case and chose the "block the person speaking inconvenient truth" route. It's rather common for feminist supporters.

[@asdfqwerzxcv6]

'So yesterday, I had... forcefully removed from my skull' That was a bad time to accidentally press mute! :O

[@jordangrooms7560]

there's always been advertising, there was once a silent film star, who was a silent film star because he was so advertised and pretty, who had died a little bit before or possibly after the brownie camera was created. so many people came to his funeral and had so much more advertising for even his death, with pictures of him in heaven, pictures of him dying in tragedy, when he really didn't. some people even killed themselves mourning him. The point is that people have always trusted other people what to like and what to do and who to live for and what to die for. and i agree with you, in a way, that we should just care from the depth of our hearts, because if not it's really just like being in a infinite loop of watching this because it's there, it's there because you watch it. like how the most inaccurate websites are first because it's based on what has been clicked first.

[@zackp2879]

I like how "Lean Forward", a phrase used by John to belittle mindless media, is also the slogan for NBC.

[@TheSage555]

John has an amazing way of saying something profound in a simple matter of fact way. I remember in one of his question Tuesday videos he was asked, "What's the meaning of life?" and his reply was "Other people."

[@happypirate1000]

Handsome-batch. Yup.

[@audreeaudree]

"an ass ton of tote bags"

[@cheesecauldron7]

MICHAEL ARANDA NEEDS TO PLAY AGUSTUS WATERS IN TFIOS!

[@bubblyfluffball]

"Mr Handsome-batch" John, I love you.

[@ThornMu]

Probably mentioned already, but Patreon is like kickstarter, sort of, but is designed for ongoing content creation.

[@LuneFromage]

I am bothered by advertising too John! I've recommended this to you before, but you really ought to read "Can't buy my love" by Jean Kilbourne. It's about the damaging effects of advertising and I think it's a very interesting read. I hate advertising most (as I commented in Hank's video) because you cannot choose what you are advertising. If you are advertising for a product or cause you believe in, then it is a different story. KZbin should let us choose the advertisements on our videos.

[@EuuuunicePark]

Hey Nerdfighteria! After being inspired by the amazing Hank and John (and and other awesome nerdfighters!), I've taken the big scary leap into starting my own channel! I've started a FOOD and TRAVEL channel that I hope you guys will enjoy! So if you have a moment, I would totally appreciate if you could take a quick peek over! Thank you and much appreciation in advance!! DFTBA!!

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BUT IT HAS TO LAST FOREVER HENRY WILL CARRY THE TORCH