Adum & Pals: Pinocchio (2022)

[@YMS]

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[@vinlandsagaisquiteinterest4396]

Nice

[@vinlandsagaisquiteinterest4396]

Do i sound like an npc

[@waxmeltfan]

More adum n pals 😼

[@Greg501-]

The "clock of spanking" is actually in the original animated Disney Pinocchio film

[@FUBBA]

You are 100% a furry IRL YMSDOTORG

[@trashpittv287]

I love how the solution of having Pinocchio's nose grow to grab the key was taken straight from Shrek 2, whose Pinocchio was meant to be a parody of the original Pinocchio

[@cherrychocolate1434]

The ladies underwear joke in that scene is funnier than anything in the entirety of ALL Disney Live Action Remakes.

[@321cheeseman]

@@cherrychocolate1434 I dunno, I laughed pretty hard at a lot of Mulan 2020.

[@afterdinnercreations936]

Is there a trope-name for when the real-franchise rips off its spoof? Blofeld being revealed to be James Bond's brother in "Spectre"

[@Chineseisntalanguageapparently]

Not original, just the Disney version

[@apassionatenerd.3564]

This Pinocchio Meta has layers. Just like an onion.

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

I like how Disney made one of their worst movies ever out of spite that Guillermo was making something far better and driven by artistic vision and love, hoping they would outshine him.

[@lookingforlove839]

They somehow made a pinocchio movie worse than the pauly shore one.

[@nombregenerico7775]

He failed. Disney reigns supreme.

[@Denneth_D.]

Yo jack wassup

[@cinema_roll6296]

Guillermo pinnochio is dope

[@dullsunrise8820]

I’ve seen more praise for Del Toro’s version than any other version released this year alone. Dude deserves all the praise in the world-he taught everyone how to make a damn good adaptation. Edit: would also like to point out how much dedication Del Toro has to the art of film making as a whole. Go check out any interview with him on the new Pinocchio. He truly cares about what he makes, which is something companies can also learn from.

[@ethanglasgow7612]

The “smoke monsters” were in the original, but not like they are in the remake. From the original animation it’s implied that they’re silhouettes of normal people lurking in the shadows. Since the Disney remakes lack any subtlety, they took these representations to mean actual demon creatures.

[@ethanhinton4549]

Plus even if they WERE monsters they looked more hairy (or Furry to continue the joke) than smokey.

[@Chiwowza]

That's so pathetically hilarious

[@DreamTravelerZenddrex]

Yep pretty sure the one guy they paid to watch the original Disney Pinocchio was drunk while he did it.

[@AnonymousYoutuber69]

@@DreamTravelerZenddrex no he was only drinking root beer

[@skinnysnorlax1876]

The worst dangers in the original story, by FAR, were humans. The coachman and the guy leading the little circus majig. The story has some real sophistication, despite being batshit crazy and aimed at kids. (Also to the comment above me, rootbeer that looks exactly like beer and can be consumed in two sips despite being like, two litres)

[@EmarCeeHW]

"Chris Weitz? Director of Twilight: New Moon Chris Weitz?" Forever one of my favourite parts of this Adum and Pals. It breaks my heart to know Scott is no longer with us. Rest in Peace Scott, you will be missed.

[@panonymousbloom5405]

"remember kids, lying gets you out of prison" is certainly *a* moral

[@AbsentMinded619]

They ran it past their lawyers and it checks out

[@firewolfandrewb]

It's accurate...

[@panonymousbloom5405]

@@firewolfandrewb well not really. "never talk" would probably be better.

[@eduardopena5893]

Liberals have learned that lesson well and are trying to pass it on to the next generation of useful idiots.

[@firewolfandrewb]

@@panonymousbloom5405 You're right, but don't discount the value in having your story straight when you get caught.

[@awesometwitchy]

"What's your name son?" "Han." "Han what? Who are your people?" "I don't have people. I'm alone." "Han... solo!" Same energy here.

[@randomdeliveryguy]

"What will we name this kid?" "Idk, he's covered in blood and innards.. How about, GUTS?"

[@undeadMonk]

@@randomdeliveryguy Disney's Berserk (oh god i'm gonna throw up in my mouth)

[@randomdeliveryguy]

@@charmygreen665 It's just a joke, brother.

[@cartooncritique6625]

That still remain lamest explanation for a character's name they've done so far.

[@reedpyre9025]

"I don't have people. I'm alone." "Han... lonely as fuck"

[@samgomez9942]

18:55 I love how he delivered his lines as if he was expecting the animators to make Jiminy act Donald Duck esque, stomping and angry but he's just very gently tapping on the whale with his umbrella while standing there with a calm face

[@DanJuega]

More reasons to show they phoned it in

[@iamnotthatguy7166]

I love how comments start with I love

[@gorslax_5115]

@@iamnotthatguy7166 who asked

[@GenericProtagonist118]

@@iamnotthatguy7166 I love I love I love.... But in reality it means I hate....

[@thebadwolf3088]

@@gorslax_5115 joe

[@LoudWaffle]

I'm actually dumbfounded at Disney's corporation-wide fascination with giving backstories to the NAMES of iconic characters. This film is the one that convinced me it's not just stupid coincidence. There must be someone very high up who is pulling strings in these movies to make sure every one of them justifies the existence of a character's name after decades of irl people liking the names without questioning them.

[@plantain.1739]

Disney likes to sanitize things in the absolute strangest way. like you can't depict a child drinking, and smoking in a story that explicitly condemns the characters for that, but shoplifting is fine? Plus the shoplifting store muddles the message, because it was about embracing vices, which like, is shoplifting a vice? I guess there are impulsive decisions that lead to theft, but there are very few people who addictively steal shit.

[@LoudWaffle]

@@plantain.1739 Modern-era Disney movements are all money, no thought.

[@Creampuf1977]

I mean 'Pino' literally means pine. Not a fan of someone looking at the camera and telling me tho.

[@vissova]

@@plantain.1739 They literally do not care. These movies are not made because anyone feels compelled to make them, It's essentially just to extend the copyright on these characters.

[@Chiwowza]

It's literally an attempt to justify the existence of all these remakes - "We're building on the original story/explaining unexplained things"

[@oldoutlet6946]

The "Get me out of here!" line is also, coincidentally enough, a quote Pinocchio says over and over again when you're trying to rescue him in Kingdom Hearts. I honestly thought that's what Adam was referencing lol.

[@Cmbtsnpr]

I knew there was a reason it seemed familiar! That boss fight sucks, but is even worse in Re: Chain of Memories

[@alexlee4154]

"I have some unfinished business with this puppet"

[@mackielunkey2205]

Wait I don’t remember that part lmao

[@alexlee4154]

@@mackielunkey2205 The whole of monstro (the place where this happens) is missable so its entirely possible you have played the game but never seen it

[@mackielunkey2205]

@@alexlee4154 I actually did play the game, and actually did play through Monstro too. However, I was so focused on killing the boss to notice lmao. I had more issue with the weird map. Thankfully, the last three levels of the game are an absolute blast to play.

[@turnoverhd435]

"Political Puppets" is unironically one of the most layered and well-done jokes Scoot has ever made

[@moifern804]

I scrolled down looking for more comments about that joke and was shocked to see how few there were

[@Apric0tJams]

@@moifern804probably because it wasn’t that funny if ur black. Happy whites find it funny tho

[@HushtheMag]

The only well done joke he's ever made*

[@gladstone1432]

I love Adum's floating head amongst Scoot and Gael's fursonas. Such a beautiful visual.

[@gobbotits1686]

I swear that I see this comment on every single Adum & Pals

[@gladstone1432]

@@gobbotits1686 I wouldn't be surprised lol.

[@genericcommentor1111]

@@gobbotits1686 that's because Adum is a artist with a unique/furry vision

[@carlosfred8673]

furry or not. deez boys sure is funny.

[@Sm0k3turt]

Honse.

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

Del Torros Pinoccio will be remembered for a long time. Disneys Pinoccio will be forgotten just as fast as Space Jam: A new Legacy

[@coletrainhetrick]

Not fast enough

[@bozotheclown1142]

I literally thought the movie hadn't been released yet. Nobody gave a shit

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

@@bozotheclown1142 if you mean Del Torros Pinoccio they spent every penny on the production so not much left for marketing, unless you have netflix where they showcased it. If you mean Disney however zhat truly is an embarrassment

[@campbell-duo305]

Not only that but the actual original cartoon version from the 40s will also be remembered even more as kids who grew up with this version will learn about the original.

[@amoongoos]

I already forgot it exist

[@ElArto95]

Of course Adum put the "suspiciously well animated fox" as the thumbnail. But to be honest, it's the only element of this movie that doesn't hurt to look at.

[@ChatterboxFM]

I don’t like his fingers.. they’re the only part that looks way too unnatural. Not saying he needed paws, but god something a little more than those..

[@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263]

In my opinion it looks pretty gross. I may be a furry but I don’t find nasty uncanny animal mouths attractive.

[@ChatterboxFM]

@@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263 yeah I can agree with that, his design is too much of a mish-mash of uncanny-valley and passable. I am 100% in agreement with Adum and Scoot that a furry (or a team of furries) with a teeth fetish designed Honest John.

[@evergarden8592]

@@ChatterboxFM I don't blame them, maws are super hot

[@ChatterboxFM]

@@evergarden8592 I ain’t going to yuck your yum my dude. Keep being you

[@GoddoDoggo]

I get the feeling the writers or whoever interpreted Pinocchio's wooden boy-ness as being an allegory for a disability, and that the original film was implying that being disabled is bad and Pinocchio's goal was to become "normal" and not disabled. So they decided to "fix" this plot by adding a literally disabled character, and saying at the end, "Pinocchio is perfect as he is, he doesn't need to be fixed!" I don't know _why_ one would interpret Pinocchio this way, but it seems to have really affected them.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

I mean tbf the original motto is outdated, humanity isn't defined by flesh. Del Toro's just did it better

[@iiequinox8044]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 The Disney remake simply didn't earn the new 'be yourself' message at all.

[@jakesmiley4745]

I don't think "it's good to be disabled" is a good ...moral?

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@jakesmiley4745 Pinocchio isn't disabled though, just different.

[@IDontReallyWantAYoutubeHandle]

That probably explains some of the weirder changes made in this version, like when Pinnochio uses his lying ability to get the key and escape the puppet master. That's actually an insanely good theory

[@helpimarock66]

In my opinion, The 2022 Pinocchio remake is a perfect representation of how just how Nefarious Disney is as a company in general. The original Pinocchio (1940) came from a time when Walt Disney and his animators actually had passion for what they produced. They were coming off the heels of releasing the first feature-length animated film ever (Snow White in 1937) and you can see just how much passion went into Pinocchio (not to mention all the other stuff they were releasing at the time) when you see the amount of effort they put into the art, animation and voice acting. You don't see any kind of passion in the 2022 Pinocchio: You can tell it was nothing more than a paycheck for the people working on it, and the reason for that is because it was a Rush job. Disney are NOTORIOUS not just for being ultra-protective of their Intellectual properties, but also for trying to sabotage their competitors in film animation (they re-released "The Little Mermaid" in theatres 8 full years after its original release on the EXACT same date as 20th Century fox released their own animated Princess film "Anastasia" - They're That Scummy) and they damn-well knew that Guillermo Del Toro was working on his own version of Pinocchio. They couldn't sue him not to use the character because they don't own the rights to it, so they instead threw a bunch of money at whoever they had available at the time to hastily throw together this shitty remake to release a month before Del Toro's planned release date. Del Toro and his team, much like Disney in 1940, made their Pinocchio adaptation from a place of passion and they put so much love and effort into it, especially the beautiful stop-motion animation. The higher-ups at Disney did not look at this project and see a talented Director creating a work of art for the world to see: They saw a Threat. Disney threw their remake together in a cynical and greedy attempt to intentionally draw people away from Del Toro's film (even down to it being released to streaming - you can bet your ass they would have done a cinematic run if Del Toro's film was distributed in theatres). Given the amount of unfinished and sloppy visual effects that are left in the movie (So much of the Whale scene doesn't even look fully-rendered) you can tell that they DID NOT CARE about maintaining any level of quality; as long as they got people's money. It's utterly revolting and honestly such an ugly act of spite and greed that it makes me never want to support Disney again. They deserve to be pirated into bankruptcy.

[@ExitStatement]

Well said. I totally agree.

[@octavianjoseph8633]

It is BEYOND a shame to see what Disney has become.

[@bryangarcia5599]

The cuckoo clock with the 'nude boy being spanked' actually appears in the original 1940 film; if you'll look closely (in either version), you can see that the boy's hand is stuck in a cookie jar, and he is being spanked by (presumably) his mother as punishment. What they've added in this version that was _not_ present in the 1940 film is the baton-wielding policeman behind them who appears to be attempting to block the mother from administering said spanking.

[@MrProg-ey3tl]

lol that's so pathetic

[@oliveb5768]

@@MrProg-ey3tl it feels like something the onion would make up but it actually happened

[@RedKincaid]

I'm as against hitting your kids as anyone, but it feels like it's just part of the attempt to both inject modern morality into old stories and to simultaneously soften it to, well, disney levels. Physical punishment is more widely frowned upon, therefore it's frowned upon in 1800s italy. It's the same softening that got the drinking and smoking taken out, along with any possible morals. I'm also not saying that a movie not being a morality tale is bad, but the original certainly was and required actual effort to remove those portions

[@SammEater]

@@RedKincaid An extreme effort to not offend anyone only made this remake suck even harder.

[@samuelsolomon7330]

It feels like a metaphor about pinocchio having agency in the original, and not in the new one.

[@comixproviderftw_02]

2022 was the year of Pinocchio. -The Pauly Shore one with that iconic line -The live action Disney remake -Del Toro’s movie from Netflix -And Pinocchio’s appearance in JOJO’s Bizarre Adventure Part 6: Stone Ocean as part of Bohemian Rhapsody (or Bohemian Ecstatic, as the dub calls it)

[@tjmauser6954]

And their is a game called lies of p comeing or did

[@comixproviderftw_02]

@@tjmauser6954 Its coming next year.

[@Iamafishproductions]

And now we know why Anasui is so eager to kill him. Pinocchio: No, don't! If you kill me, all the stories about me will cease to exist! Anasui: DIVER FUCKIN' DOWN!

[@motherplayer]

Let's add to the amusement factor in noting that his VA in English happens to be the new voice for Minnie Mouse officially in Disney projects. So somehow they managed to keep a Disney nod in such an amusing way.

[@comixproviderftw_02]

@@motherplayer That’s amazing. “This shit ain’t Disney!”

[@tonymarshall3978]

Guillermo Del Toro also has the “be yourself ending” but it’s executed 100 times better

[@mastermarkus5307]

It really helps that that movie isn't trying to stick to the original moral of "being a good boy" and repeatedly sets up the idea of positive disobedience and individualism. This one just feels like it wants a twist on the ending that it didn't earn.

[@SammEater]

@@mastermarkus5307 It's like Disney decided to rip off Del Toro's Pinocchio with the imagery and some of the story beats of their own OG cartoon without actually picking one vision.

[@AbsentMinded619]

It works because it’s a complete reimagining, which is also a good way not to crap on the original story, since you’re openly doing your own take and not an attempt at a faithful adaptation. Disney’s version sucks as a reimagining, craps on the original story AND craps on their own classic movie. Plus just sucks in general as a movie. That’s quite an accomplishment.

[@moguel1524]

Guillermo del Toro has a "everyone dies, and that's okey" ending and It was very well done.

[@naranara1690]

@@moguel1524 I saw that movie less than a week ago and forgot everyone died 😭

[@TheMattLuigi]

One of my favorite videos of YMS and Scott. He will be missed ❤ Thanks for the memories Scott.

[@solidsnake2085]

Scoot had so many quotes I still say from all of the adum and pals. You are missed dearly. 😢

[@LegionHimself]

The color grading is a nightmare. The story is supposed to be set in Tuscany, but they are using the kind of drab, gray-brown dry color grading that is associated with middle of nowhere deserts. It’s theoretically Tuscany, but the colors are telling me it’s Afghanistan.

[@TheNinToaster]

it feels oddly steampunk, industrial revolution britain with the color grading also you know?

[@LegionHimself]

I think I know what they're aiming for: Italy is some southern place, therefore hot, therefore arid wasteland. They are confusing Italy for Sicily, and they are confusing Sicily for the post apocalypse.

[@Garbageman28]

I highly doubt zemekis spent any time consulting with the colour graders tbh.

[@LegionHimself]

@@Garbageman28 I agree, this is another committee product where no one seems to be responsible for anything specifically. No one is at the wheel.

[@LegionHimself]

I'm from Tuscany by the way, so that's why this is so blatant to me. Tuscany is humid, with woods and former swamplands. Deep green, not desaturated brown.

[@IDHLEB]

I love how Disney is hysterically clinging to his own legacy properties, but doesn't get what made them special.

[@smaakjeks]

You would think somebody at some point would go "Well, we _might as well_ make the movies *good,* right?"

[@bozotheclown1142]

Who cares about that? The execs need money 🤑💰 Now we got 50 years of legal rights to the IP

[@nessesaryschoolthing]

@@smaakjeks Somebody did, but it wasn't anybody at Disney

[@hankhill7827]

I don't think "getting what made them special" is even something they need to consider. These films they make are cynical revisionist cash grabs. "New" films they can milk people for because they have good will for the old films, they don't need to be anything but hollow parodies.

[@ghoulish6125]

Its like Pokémon. Why try, when people will pour their money into you regardless. Check a couple of boxes, make a profit, keep churning the same thing in the same wheel.

[@s.l.thecoffeeaddict1657]

I'm so glad Disney is the only corporation bold enough to tackle *puppet racism*

[@AbsentMinded619]

As if a living puppet could walk up and start talking to any of them and they’d immediately be like, “Oh, hello, friend. Ignorant humans always fear what they don’t understand; it’s such a shame. But not me. Come and let’s play Uno together.”

[@felixbabuf5726]

9:26 "It says here he- uh, he went lookin' for you, and uh, uh he was swallowed by a hwale!" 🙂 "SWALLOWED by a HWALE??" 😮 "Yeah!" 😃

[@IggyWon]

"I see him, in my dreams" God damnit, Scoot.. why did you have to leave us so soon?

[@Loffeleif]

Both Disney and Del Toro made a Pinocchio film within a year. It's the new Bug's Life vs Antz

[@mastermarkus5307]

But like... One is really bad and the other really good as opposed to both of them being pretty bad.

[@iciajay6891]

One was good tho... so...

[@Saz103]

I mean that argument was weird cause both films sucked dick, the Del toro version literally shits on this remake and the original its insane.

[@argkitsune]

The Del Toro film is a passion project with years of work put into it. The Disney film is none of those things.

[@michaelstrong5383]

Except one of them turned out to be really good while the other is a bad Disney remake.

[@RSG_TheMonster]

These soulless Disney Live-Action remakes need to be made illegal with immediate effect!!!

[@thecinematicmind]

Except Pete’s Dragon.

[@Santoryu90]

Idk I liked the the Jungle Book one

[@AFC2022]

Jungle Book is The Best Remake, Along With Aladdin

[@SchnookieC]

@@AFC2022 You're wild if you think live-action aladdin was even of acceptable quality

[@AFC2022]

@@SchnookieC I Mean, I’m Sorry But I Love The Aladdin Remake a Lot

[@NateCooper111]

So in the Chip n' Dale movie, they made fun of the uncanny animated movies that Zemeckis directed, and then Disney hires him to direct their Pinocchio movie? Lol

[@AbsentMinded619]

In twenty years the Rescue Rangers re-remake will make fun of how bad the Rescue Rangers remake was.

[@firewolfandrewb]

@@AbsentMinded619 In twenty years Disney will no longer exist.

[@paulovinasrocha6166]

@@firewolfandrewb very naive of you.

[@firewolfandrewb]

@@paulovinasrocha6166 All empires fall eventually.

[@paulovinasrocha6166]

@@firewolfandrewb the roman empire lasted more than a 1000 years.

[@ihvojd]

I will say given this, Cruella, and Mulan being both critical and financial failures, I’m dead shock there moving forward with Little Mermaid, Snow White, and TikTok Hercules.

[@jasonpeet6198]

Probably cause they multiple contracts planned for remakes despite of how good or bad

[@jasonpeet6198]

They Also have a agenda with making Ariel black and snow white latino

[@2cat4life]

tik tok hercules???

[@cookiemocher388]

Considering they probably were mostly finished, it makes sense

[@gibhib]

@@jasonpeet6198To a chud, only two races exist: white and "political".

[@skodnik8608]

Someone needs to show Adum the bossfight in kingdom hearts where pinocchio keeps screaming "GET ME OUT OF HERE!"

[@yellinghayfire4935]

I want Adam to play kingdom Hearts, it would be extremely hilarious but I have a feeling he would mostly have a very bad time with it

[@iiequinox8044]

@@yellinghayfire4935 The absolute absurdity of the story would atleast be entertaining to watch Adum react to lmao

[@LifesNeverHumDrum]

I had completely forgotten about his part of the Monstro level and y’all have unearthed the memories

[@kimifw58]

You should title it "Disney's Pinocchio (2022)" to not give Disney the credit of making the definitive Pinocchio movie of this year.

[@xXxLovelyBloodxXx]

This!!!

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Yeah that title goes to Pinocchio: A True Story

[@admcleo]

Ok, is anyone else convinced that the reason Honest John looks notably better than anything else in the film is because they knew going in that they were also going to do a 'live action' Robin Hood remake and could double dip on the work on the fox? Oh god that Robin Hood remake is going to be TERRIBLE. If they had to sanitize beer and smoking I don't even want to imagine the 'generic girl boss' scene they're going to make Maid Marian to skirt her offering herself to Prince John to save Robins life.

[@anib8863]

Please tell me you're joking, please tell me they're not remaking Robin Hood. I love that movie to pieces, faults and all, I don't want Disney to screw it up.

[@BlisaBLisa]

disney is clearly capable of making realistic animal models, so i imagine its just easier to model and animate an actual fox than something that needs to be stylized and cartoony but still realistic, like Pinocchio and jiminy. but they also dont have to give him super accurate animal animation to avoid making it uncanny, since he's not just a regular animal hes anthropomorphic. unlike the cat, which has very noticeably off animation because its meant to move like a regular cat but it doesnt, even though the model itself looks decent. i think this kind of design might be the easiest to get right

[@CoOlKyUbI96]

I’m not even sure if they will make a CGI Robin Hood? I haven’t heard any single news regarding such

[@admcleo]

@@anib8863 Sorry to dissapoint but they announced it in 2020 and its slated to come to Disney+. But don't despair, maybe the animation studio will go on strike and they wont be able to finish it.

[@SammEater]

A Robin Hood remake? What's next, The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes for a third time?

[@Plepsfoko]

‘Why are you British?!?’ - Gaël, the most upset I’ve heard

[@itsmesnacks]

i mean... it's a very valid complaint

[@rashaanburns8876]

The excitement in “Director of Twilight Full Moon” made me spit out my food lmao

[@DrBaconPhD]

20:10 they didn't even TRY to light Jiminy right for the scene, he looks straight up overlayed on

[@dodojesus4529]

They RAN out of money

[@GippyHappy]

I'm soo glad you pointed that out cause I didn't even notice. It looks like they forgot to shade him lol

[@stopreadingthisusername9528]

He looks like a Snapchat filter.

[@penjamin1479]

'Lying for your own gain is ok as long as you apologize for it afterwards' - Pinocchio 2022

[@cartooncritique6625]

He'll make a fine politician some day. 😆

[@randomnerd3402]

@@cartooncritique6625 He's an Italian, we always make good politicians *laughs in Andrew Cuomo and the Cuomo family dynasty*

[@emoji3266]

@@cartooncritique6625 Or a KZbinr

[@user-lb9xw4xf2q]

I prefer the somewhat clever notion from the original - "Drinking too much alcohol turns you into an ass."

[@murabula2092]

powerful post. screenshooted, printed, framed and hanged above mantelpiece.

[@Advent3546]

It is weird how the movie originally based on an Italian story has all the villainous characters be Italian

[@amentco8445]

if I had to guess, some weird narrative dating back to ww2. Still blaming italy for their part in the war.

[@commandergree6131]

@@amentco8445 It's set in Italy, so it would make sense for the villains to be Italian, it has nothing to do with blaming Italy for WW2.

[@corvo6138]

@@commandergree6131 i mean, everyone should be italian, not just the villans tho

[@commandergree6131]

@@corvo6138 Yeah, I don't disagree with that, I just find it a little absurd to draw a WW2 conclusion from a film that literally takes place in Italy.

[@corvo6138]

@@commandergree6131 yeah, I absolutely agree ahah, I don't think it has anything to do with ww2, but I find it strange that, for a film that takes place in Italy, only the bad guys have the Italian accent.

[@shoestringVA]

Between this, the Pauly Shore one, the Guillermo Del Toro one, and the current season of Dimension 20, this really has been a year of WTF Pinocchio adaptations

[@makeitthrough_]

Lest we forget the trailer for the upcoming Lies of P

[@mrcuccob6386]

Don't forget the ugly af Pinocchio that shows up in part 6 of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

I will not accept Guillermo Del Toro slander in this house

[@shoestringVA]

@@halfmettlealchemist8076 I didn’t say it was bad, it’s amazing. But it did make me say wtf a few times

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Which times? The part where Pinocchio was forced to confront his own mortality the living personification of Death itself, or the part where Tom Kenny voiced a stop-motion Mussolini? Because I’ll agree that those were both some real “WTF” moments.

[@blaisetelfer8499]

I defended Zemeckis and his animated works in the comments on your Chip & Dale review, saying he had 100X the balls anyone at modern Disney did, then an hour later it was announced he was directing this. What the hell, Robert, I just got done vouching for you.

[@SpamEggSausage]

Robert Zemeckis has a really mixed bag of movies on his resume. He did some of my favorite movies ever and he also did some movies I hated.

[@SpamEggSausage]

Robert Zemeckis has a really mixed bag of movies on his resume. He did some of my favorite movies ever and he also did some movies I hated.

[@blaisetelfer8499]

@@SpamEggSausage Agreed. I loved Flight, Contact and Cast Away, but have no idea what he was thinking with Welcome To Marwen.

[@SpamEggSausage]

@@blaisetelfer8499 did you like Forrest Gump and Roger Rabbit? I love those!

[@rubberboy9381]

@12:52 the facial expression pinocchio makes when he realizes something is wrong has stuck with me since I saw it as a baby. He looks unsettled, confused, and horrified, which gives that whole sequence such a weird and disturbing tone.

[@alice88wa]

Oh yeah, the entire Pleasure Island sequence in the original is one of the scariest and unsettling things I've ever seen in any film, not just a kids film. And the other kids never get saved, that's the craziest part! Disney would never have the balls to do something like this in an original story these days.

[@MusicoftheDamned]

​@@alice88wa Yeah, it's one of the very few instances of a Disney villain not only getting to do something bad to children on-screen but outright get away with it unpunished. The only other instance I can think of off the top of my head is Mirage from the _Aladdin_ animated series who even more shockingly got away with basicallt killing kids on-screen--she has turned them into demon slaves who disintegrate in light--and never really suffers for it. But, yeah, modern Disney wouldn't dare to have a villain do something even a tenth as offensive or as villainous (or as creative).

[@mastermarkus5307]

There were some things in this remake that are similar to Del Toro's version, like the dead son and Pinocchio not turning into a real human, but like...It felt more justified there. For one thing, the story was different enough as a whole to change the ending and it's just...in this remake "Gepetto has a dead son" feels like Disney trying to cover for people being like "Lol, it's weird that Gepetto is a guy who makes a wooden boy" while the Del Toro story actually leans a lot of character development and motivation as well as emotional resonance on the idea of Gepetto having had a son. I'm not saying that Del Toro's version is _perfect_ but it feels like art made by someone who wants to tell a story instead of _this_ which just feels like "Disney is remaking all their stuff for cynical cash-in reasons, so they got to Pinocchio at some point".

[@Valzahd]

That's something I've noticed in these live action remakes. Disney seems to be weirdly paying attention to these "issues" as if they're legitimate complaints when I suspect the few who do raise these points don't really care and are just goofing around.

[@fortheloveofketchup]

The thing is, why do they feel the need to explain Gepetto's motivations? Mans was a lonely old man who wanted a child. It truly is not that deep.

[@strawberryqueen0382]

What’s great is that the GDT Pinocchio even was able to do the whole “he was a real boy the whole time even if wooden” without beating our head over it with the message.

[@AbsentMinded619]

I disagree with both Del Toro and Disney’s complains that Pinocchio “shouldn’t have to physically transform in order to be loved by his father” or whatever. I thought it was just obvious that Pinocchio would prefer being all the way human over being a half-human made of wood. It’s not that deep.

[@mastermarkus5307]

@@fortheloveofketchup Like I said, the Del Toro movie does more with the concept. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it, and you'll understand what I'm talking about when it comes to Geppetto's dead son factoring into it more than just being an explanation.

[@Thegr8MC]

Somewhere in Disney HQ: "Guillermo del Toro is making a Pinoccio movie. Prepare to sue him for copyright infringement!" "We can't. Pinoccio is public domain, we don't actually own him." "Wait WHAT!?" "Yeah. A lot of our movies are based on public domain stories." "If we can't sue him then we'll release our own Pinoccio movie and beat him at the box office!" "Is that a good idea? Won't the movie suck?" "Who cares? As long as it's got the Disney name on it people will pay out the ass to see it no matter how shitty it is!"

[@SammEater]

"The movie comes out this year" "Just rush it in 6 months, we will fix the effects in post"

[@cartooncritique6625]

The sad thing about that last line is that it's mostly true. 😒

[@NavidIsANoob]

I thought Pinnochio WASN'T in the public domain until recently, which is why there's a sudden string of movies coming out about the story. And the reason why Disney also made one, so they can cash in at least on the fact that they just lost one of their biggest properties.

[@cartooncritique6625]

@@NavidIsANoob I'm pretty sure Pinocchio has been in the public domain for a long time now since there are many older films that came out well before any of the ones released this year.

[@Thegr8MC]

@@NavidIsANoob I looked it up and Pinocchio has been in public domain since the 1940's.

[@thecinematicmind]

So glad I went to the World Premiere of Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio in London. Worth the £5. Phenomenal film.

[@samb8744]

It was alright. Animation was amazing, but the script and voice acting wasn’t great. Had even some of the same flaws, like how Pinocchio uses his lies to get him out of trouble at the end.

[@thecinematicmind]

@@samb8744 I love that disobedience in del Toro’s version is used to be against oppression.

[@mastermarkus5307]

@@samb8744 The thing is...that's the point. It wasn't sticking to the original moral but often showed how disobedience can be _good_ in some situations, so it's not weird that lying benefited Pinocchio at some point in the movie. I thought that the pacing dragged in the middle (there was too much time where Pinocchio was in the circus and not much was happening around him), and the songs could've been done away with, but I didn't have any issues with the voice acting.

[@awesometwitchy]

@@thecinematicmind I especially loved that element because it presented a lose-lose situation for internet reactionaries: They'd have to shit on one of the most beloved directors in order to call the movie woke, which it definitely was.

[@Saz103]

@@mastermarkus5307 The songs were good though, The only one that didn’t fit was the circus maestro song.

[@tomdylan2074]

8:46 Adam is finally acknowledging his crippling obsession with referencing "gemmie outta here--I didn't do anything" voice every chance he gets. It;s the most reference thing, especially on the gaming channel.

[@lnfreeman]

I've never had more respect for Scott than when he immediately recognized Chris Weitz by name

[@MrVIPGuest]

Scott will be missed. Genuinely my favorite part of Adum and pals

[@Fusilier7]

Disney is much like Smaug the dragon, guarding its loot and swag, paranoid of someone taking that treasure, and must remind everyone of how powerful it is. However, Disney has a loose scale, and all it takes is a well aimed arrow, someday, Disney will get that arrow.

[@MediumRareOpinions]

Well they might be officially investigated for financial misconduct, possibly even fraud soon. That could be their black arrow.

[@kimifw58]

I imagine a rat that ate too much and is now too fat to get more food.

[@M50A1]

Itd be funny if all their IPs got snatched up by different studios, just out of spite

[@kimifw58]

@Patricio Martinoli It shall collapse under its own weight like the Roman Empire.

[@thischannelisdecommissioned]

That's so non-swag of them

[@beetyrant9511]

He doesn't become a real boy so presumably he can't go back to real school anyway. He wants to immediately join the labor market regardless and this is presented as good.

[@rouge939]

This might be Scott’s funniest video. He was a treasure

[@peppermintcharmander6271]

Every new decision made was mostly confusing, like being afraid to show beer in a kids movie despite it being presented as a vice is one thing but so many aspects that hit me as a hit were just gone for this one. The original scene where Gepetto sees pinocchio with donkey parts was almost tragic cause of the concern and shame in his voice at the line “Pinnochio, what happened to you?”. Like that single handedly guilt tripped me into behaving as a kid but ig just thinking abt doing the right thing is enough ig

[@thegirlleastlikelyto]

You know what, reading that line awoke a memory of being really affected by that line too! This new one has no consequences or morality or anything! Isn't that the whole point of Pinocchio?

[@lfsantacruz8703]

The mean Italian trope has been popping up a lot recently from Disney. Someone much have had a bad vacation or something. Like, the entirety of Luca is all the Italians being either very stupid, or cartoonishly evil. And the only good humans are the two random American characters there for some reason. Disney just... does not like Italians. 😂

[@klg9549]

UK and European cultures are still considered okay to mock/throw under the bus in fiction, and it bothers me a lot. I will forever be disappointed with Brave, even though they at least got Scottish actors and actresses. I'm Scottish and literally no one in the theatre was laughing at the jokes (aside from a 3-year-old) because all of them were the low-hanging fruit material you'd find in a tourist shop.

[@mamori2019]

@@klg9549As someone from Austria, I don't have the same impression, but I might not have the same knowledge - do you have other examples other than Brave?

[@kimifw58]

Wasn't Luca written and directed by an Italian?

[@kimifw58]

@@klg9549 That was before Disney became Woke Central. Now all foreign cultures must be -pandered to- represented. Unless President Pooh hates them, of course.

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

tbf luca was directed by an italian so it might just be self deprecation humour in that

[@MonsoonMoonrock]

I knew it was gonna be bad just seconds in but wow Zemeckis really wanted to have a shockingly long scene of a puppet staring at a pile of horse crap huh

[@mamori2019]

This was an incredibly jarring scene to me. Like, what is this?? Is this movie self-aware? How is its existence even warranted?

[@Waltersop]

It’s gotta be a fetish at this point

[@Sm0k3turt]

Yknow I didn’t think that I’d see a more graphic doll sex scene after Chucky 5 but here we are

[@rjheeb]

Glad the only Pinocchio I’ve seen this year is Guillermo’s lol

[@iciajay6891]

But you now saw clips of this one...

[@zackandjessadventures6219]

Is it worth watching?

[@rjheeb]

@@zackandjessadventures6219 yes!

[@rjheeb]

@@iciajay6891 24 minutes with funny commentary is better than an hour of hell

[@TheAntlionGuard]

I love how the cat suddenly changes artstyle during the whale part

[@Evanz111]

“Get me out of here” is one of my favourite running jokes from any channel I follow. It’s in my head far too much, so thanks for passing on the curse.

[@Sm0k3turt]

Get me out of here! I didn’t do anything just get me out!

[@mathieuleader8601]

I want to say that making the cricket the Ghost of Christmas Past in Mickey's Christmas Carol was a masterstroke in storytelling and just fits like a glove.

[@Ryan-wr8fx]

9:27 the letter was clearly sent by the fairy/ angel as she is the only one who could know where the guy is and the dove (a common symbol in the bible) had an angel glow around it

[@amberhernandez]

I'll take "subtext" for $300, Alex!

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

Okay, I hate to admit it, but I *do* want that clock with Jessica and Roger making out and obviously getting ready to go at it like rabbits.

[@DJ-AnonyMoose]

Did anyone else notice how the way that Jiminy said “any real boy” at 21:20, sounded very Derek Savage-esque?

[@causticwit]

Great, now I can't not hear it 😩

[@Zayl1016]

The animated fox was legitimately a joy to watch.

[@jothyeen]

A Tree of Palme (2002), an anime also based on Pinocchio, also did the "not turn into a real boy" ending, but it felt more meaningful because as a character he put so much emphasis on becoming human (and did selfish things because of it) when he didn't need to be human. It's not a perfect movie by any means, but it's far more interesting than most Pinocchio movies. (And the sci-fi setting is really cool, I would recommend it on visuals alone.)

[@gladstone1432]

18:55 Joseph Gordon Levitt's Jiminy sounds more like the Pinocchio from Shrek. Ironic.

[@MrSTVR]

Should have made the thumbnail be question marks so we'd have to guess which Pinocchio 2022 it is

[@KittenKuddler]

I just realized at the end of the movie, Pinocchio and Jipetto (however it's spelled) ditched the cat and fish on the beach and walked home without them.

[@SpawnRevenge92]

It's honestly insane how many Pinocchio adaptations there are. There are WAY more than the 5-10 you might be thinking about. There's like a hundred.

[@AbsentMinded619]

In Italy I think it’s like, their only book.

[@jackpijjin4088]

The Rankin-Bass adaptation is cute.

[@mastermarkus5307]

It's a weird story to have so many adaptations considering the original is like a serial morality play of nonsense fantasy shit happening. It's not something that you CAN'T adapt into a movie, but it's a strange that it's as popular as it is.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@Master Markus Yeah Pinocchio in the original story starts out as a talking block of wood and there's just talking animals everywhere

[@OneOfTheLoveless]

I like that adum finally admits, on screen, to the trauma that the saw games have caused him.

[@mathieuleader8601]

Cricket looks like he got teleported from the Bugs Life universe

[@a55a551nxki114x]

So you see, he is made of Pine & oak and do we call him pine-oak-ieo. And remember: we aren't just making remakes, we're making money.

[@tertiaritus]

Do they have Beyonce in this movie? If not, that explains the box office

[@tinybee7780]

The fox in the thumbnail honestly looks great. Even looks better in motion from the snippets seen here. Wouldn't be surprised if they reuse its model in case they decide to bring back and "modernize" Robin Hood.

[@maarekstele2998]

We'll let's hope the robin hood remake is good

[@RedKincaid]

Eventually when the model for the Unfortunate Mr. Fox gets leaked and... repurposed, this movie will have had an upside.

[@blackvulture6818]

This movie's sole contribution to humanity and the art of filmaking.

[@GumshoeClassic]

I can't be the only that finds it incredibly creepy how life-like the girl-marionette is. Like, do they seriously think the audience believes this gal could have such minute control over eye-movements? With that few strings?

[@AbsentMinded619]

This is the company that watched Star Wars and thought, “but what if Lando liked to f$@! robots?” I really don’t want to know what they were thinking with this puppet romance.

[@michaelmalfaro3746]

The puppet is the master here.

[@kekula69]

i feel like originally they were going to keep it ambiguous on whether she's alive or not, then had a twist that the girl was puppeting her the whole time and was really good at it.

[@akajulester]

I actually thought she looked way too obviously CGI. Both she and Pinocchio look so obviously out of place in the real world

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

She's ambiguously ethnic, disabled, and female. She's a master at everything and the rest of the world just doesn't get her. That's the Disney way with characters now.

[@byHexted]

That call of the wild thing is so embarrassing like they really expect dude to be able to act as if he has emotional investment and an attachment to this dog, but he had to act with a person on their all fours acting like a dog like nobody is actually gonna react the same way

[@alexandersavage305]

1:57 just for fun I googled the meaning of the word Pinocchio and it literally translates to “pine-nut.” This storytelling choice was not only weird but also redundant. Gotta love Disney

[@JackedThor-so]

God, seeing the Disney remake after Del Torro's version is like taking a bite of the finest franch pastry in existence only to follow it up with a Twinkie covered in day old semen. Like... my God, the difference in quality is absolutely absurd.

[@Joey245]

Did...did they really take the gag of "Pinocchio, tell a lie!" from Shrek 2's prison escape scene *AND PLAY IT STRAIGHT FOR THE ACTUAL PINOCCHIO ESCAPE?!* WHAT HOW

[@ceast5273]

5:15 the Fox's cape clips into the ground like an Xbox 360 game

[@babyblue_22]

Hooooly shit, you're right!😱 Nice catch, dude 😅😎

[@johnskott6304]

This must be what being a tumbleweed in a desert feels like.

[@hinasakukimi]

pinocchio's nose grew to save them in shrek 2, but that was satire so his lying for a good outcome was actually the joke. it's so weird that they were essentially like "hey, let's be like shrek now" for this movie when that movie intentionally had bad lessons for kids (yknow, for comedic purposes)

[@hinasakukimi]

also it's weird they didn't save any money for the ending sequence since that's supposed to be the biggest set piece of the entire movie??

[@Gazooki69]

I just realised there were three Pinocchio movies this year, and Tom Kenny did voices for two of them (Gepetto in the Pauly Shore one and various characters in the del Toro one)

[@TothanCrawk]

As a kid, I didn't realize that the 1996 version with Jonathan Taylor Thomas was from a different studio, because I didn't pay attention to stuff like that at the time. So I already had the perfect live action version as a kid. And when I saw Disney was going to do this, I already knew it wouldn't be better.

[@marcohidalgo1101]

That's the case w/ me and the 2003 Peter Pan.

[@peteralfredhess]

The animated cutouts were such a welcome addition to these Adum & Pals edits (been for a little while I know, but no less love for the aestheic). Long live Tiger cutout Scoot! So effortlessly expressive

[@vilmublues752]

Actually, those demon things in the Pleasure Island are inspired by things from the original movie: the Coachman's minions are mysterious dark beings. However, they're so in the background you'll barely pay attention to them, while in this remake they're very focused on. The implication is that they probably are literally demons, because the Coachman himself is implied to be the devil or at least a demon.

[@vissova]

A small detail worth noting is that the dark beings in the original movie seem to have fur. They kinda resemble apes or something similar. I guess the fur was interpreted as a shadowy aura by the remake people.

[@mistergrool3941]

I literally thought that the entire point of those figures in the original movie is "the henchmen are bad guys but they aren't important enough to make new designs for so let's just assume they're perpetually in shadow"

[@animatrix1490]

@@mistergrool3941 yeah, there's literally a passage in The Illusion of Life that talks about how keeping those guys vague and blobby was scarier than making them detailed and defined (as opposed to the old witch from Snow White whose scariness is kinda based on the level of uncomfortable detail in her face, hands, etc)

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@Madeleine Keene Yeah but considering there's talking animals in this world I assume they're just monkeys lol

[@averagejoe225]

14:10 I also thought they fucking murdered that donkey and I'm crying laughing

[@LabrnMystic]

3:22 there's just something extra funny by how angry Adum got at them saying it again and throwing something. I can't help but rewind and watch that again and again

[@Mecharnie_Dobbs]

7:02 I thought she would have a wooden leg. It could be made of pine. Then she could be called Pinocchia.

[@Pyraticalpunk]

That's a little too subtle

[@orangiat3619]

6:00 THE UMBRELLA CLIPS THROUGH HIS SHIRT, HOW DID THEY LET THIS HAPPEN???

[@AshleySOAD]

OMG YOURE RIGHT

[@bingdinggold1877]

Bro what the hell I'm done this is the shittest movie ever 💀 I love it it's so bad

[@davisgoodrich8183]

We have never gotten so many Adum & Pals bangers in one year. This was a good year.

[@ZenDeeby]

Someone in the writer's room was REALLY proud of that pine-occhio thing and they HAD to put it everywhere they could.

[@BaileyFeesh]

The way the fox gets all up in the camera looks like those Zelda CDI cutscenes

[@belot217]

7:34 in the novel, iirc, Pinocchio is far from the only sentient puppet, although most of the other ones have been burned alive by the end of it. He's also not brought to life by the fairy, just a very naughty piece of wood that gained the power to express itself better once put in puppet form. It's some... weird lore.

[@benjamintillema3572]

1:46 Both of these characters are played by real life actors and yet I feel like I'm watching the Polar Express.

[@rooksclown316]

Heh Tom Hanks was it too

[@moonman375]

in the original story there were other sentient puppets, pinocchio wasn't the only one. also, the fairy wasn't the one bringing him to life, he was a sentient log of wood from the start. In fact his first words are him screaming in pain as geppetto carves him. the whale is actually accurate to the novel, it's a sea monster there also stromboli isn't even a bad guy, when he hears pinocchio wanting to go back home to his dad he lets him go and jiminy cricket dies at the start, pinocchio is like "nope" and smashes him with a mallet finally, he turns into a real boy a bunch of times, but then fucks it up and turns back into a puppet. the ending is him learning to be good and behave well enough for the transformation to stick

[@artbytesia]

I don't get how the same guy behind Back to the Future and Who Framed Roger Rabbit, both of which are good, could dish out something like this.

[@daffyphack]

I'm thinking that Honest John was the only thing they had animated when the boardroom found out about Guillermo's Pinocchio and fast-tracked this.

[@kie2]

I love the Joseph Gordon Levitt casting. It just cements that it's not about getting someone who can do a good voice it's just about getting a famous name. You could get a better actor for far less money but it doesn't matter, every slot has to be filled by an existing superstar.

[@FoxRants]

Adam & Pals is by far my favorite thing on KZbin. 🦊🧡 Scoot as always has me laughing to the point of tears! 😹😻

[@notscotthenson]

😽

[@Chronomaton]

I wouldn't be surprised if the animation for Honest John was good because they were using him to test a "live action" Robinhood movie.

[@stephenrusso6019]

0:17 At first it looks like jiminy cricket is hanging himself. Probably because of the state of disney now, and he simply couldn't be a part of this.

[@sharrdx5956]

im glad it wasn’t just me who thought that I thought adum was just zooming in

[@kod-s]

17:50 I'm disappointed the tiger wasn't clapping with his paws.