Why The CRF250L Is BETTER Than The All New CRF450L..

There are a lot of things I would buy with $12,000, the 2019 CRF450L "Dual Sport" Is NOT one of them.
In today's video I answer my most asked question of why I won't be buying Honda 's new CRF450L, from the price, to the maintenance, to the ill-mannered street performance, I explain why the CRF250L is a much better buy for 90% of people.

[@Kodiak660]

Love this kind of content. You do it very well.

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you I really appreciate that!

[@jackh3522]

O'Rourke got his patties in a bunch, sorry but people wanted legit dual sport not street legal dirt bike, wr or 450x can easily be made street legal, I not going to change oil every 2 weeks and do monthly valve cks, cuts into ride time

[@laprepper]

@@jackh3522 easily made street legal in every state except California where they require the emissions, ie the bike has to be designed for on-street use from the beginning

[@RKmndo]

@Bill Madd The DR-Z400S is around the weight of the CRF250L. The close-ratio 5spd is its major downfall, but aftermarket gearsets are available now. The carb isn't a dealbreaker for somebody like me. The DR-Z400S can also be shaved in weight and built to around 60WHP. The CRF450L should have been built with the CRF450X's enduro engine, not the R's MX engine. OR, Honda should have designed a long-interval 450 engine that could easily be built from mild to wild. The 450L also doesn't have passenger pegs. Even the DR-Z400S has passenger pegs. $10K and I can't even use it around town with a passenger, while I'm cringing about adding more mileage to it the whole time? I know it sounds like whining, but c'mon. I'm no marketing specialist or engineer, but these should be pretty commonsense things for a 450 dualsport. They already make a 450 race enduro, and even the 250L has passenger pegs. Even the Grom has passenger pegs.

[@SkateEverythingProject]

I love the space-age space comments and all of your points are extremely valid. Keep the good content coming!

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you I appreciate it!

[@valaudae1809]

With you 100% on every word. “The Swiss Army Knife of dual sports”; that’s pure gold.

[@saltydawg5913]

Thank you, finally a review that addresses the maintenance and cost factors. Well done!

[@stavencapp]

The issue here is people confuse the term dual Sport with enduro bike. The CRF250L is a dual Sport. A WR250R is a dual Sport . A DRZ400 is a dualsport. A wr450F Is an enduro bike. A KTM 525EXC Is an enduro bike. THE 450L IS AN ENDURO, NOT A DUALSPORT A dual Sport is a bike designed to be used both on and off road. Low maintenance intervals. An enduro bike is essentially a race dirtbike, high strung engine high maintenance, that has been made street legal to legally ride between trails Honda promised us a 450 dual Sport. What they gave us was a 450 ENDURO BIKE that is slightly better on the road.

[@AdventureDaily]

Exactly my point! Thanks for understanding where I'm coming from.

[@E2Moto]

This is the one that most people can't understand for some reason, is that dual sports are supposed to be low maintenance bikes for street and dirt, not plated track only bikes.

[@stimpsonjcat26]

@@E2Moto Thing is for a little more weight ( some heavier motor parts and more oil capacity)you can have a high strung motor with lower maintenance intervals.

[@E2Moto]

@@stimpsonjcat26 weight is often a trade off factor for reliability. It's really hard to call the CRF450L a dual sport because of low mileage maintenance which makes it almost unsuitable for street riding. You can easily rack a LOT of miles when you commute, and then on top of that, maintenance becomes more frequent, making it more expensive as it adds up. If I were to own a CRF450L, that bike only be ridden around my town and in nearly dirt roads, and will never see highway rides. I would also never recommend this bike as first bike.

[@stimpsonjcat26]

@@E2Moto I am not disagreeing. I just think if honda would have sacrificed a little (probably only a couple) on hp and put some heavier longer lasting parts in the motor it would have made more sense. That said the price is still way too high. This is the real reason companies are having a hard time selling bikes. This and the price of insurance.

[@colefarris6501]

Wow. I couldnt agree more!!! A man that values dollar and has good advice. Great video!

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Cole! Glad you can understand where I am coming from, Honda Financial will make loads off of this bike😂

[@danielrynard2402]

The maintenance piece alone is a key selling point

[@PennsylvaniaDualSport]

I’m about to piss a lot of people off on my Pennsylvania Dual Sport FB page by sharing this video lol. Great points! Fellow 250L owner here!

[@wave6413]

Great comments and really valid. Low maintenance is a BIG bonus.

[@korybleu3491]

The 250L’s price to fun ratio is damn good. I fully modded a 2013 model and still spent less than a brand new one.

[@AdventureDaily]

I agree! I paid $2,700 for my modded 14 and couldn't be any happier.

[@diegorobles7346]

Thanks men, exactly what I needed to see 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽 very appreciated, ill follow

[@jcsully24]

I agree 100%. I bought a 2016 250L and haven't looked back. I love the bike. Brings me everywhere I want to go (as a novice - intermediate rider) and gets me home every time. Little to zero maintenance. The only issue was the battery died in year 3. So I spent $40 bucks for a new battery. Done. That's it. The thing is bulletproof. I love that I can keep it in my garage, start it up, rip out my driveway and hit the dirt roads and trails within 15 minutes from the street (I live in Vermont). Fun, pure joy and simple. Easy living and always ready to ride at the push of a button. For $5K it's a no brainier.

[@AdventureDaily]

They are amazing machines full of cheap, reliable, fun. Thanks for sharing!

[@OhioGuy82]

I had purchased my Rally and 6 weeks later the 450 was on the showroom. I was a little perturbed until I dug and found the service interval on the 450. I’d still like to ride the 450, but as for owning, not so much. Glad I have the 250.

[@AdventureDaily]

I love the look of the Rally I think you made the right choice depending on your riding style!

[@user-sw2lv3zp6o]

The CRF250L is a good little trailie. When I was a young man working in Tokyo in the early 90s, I used to rip across the city on the way to work on a Suzuki DR250SH. Now that really was a good bike.

[@AdventureDaily]

That's awesome!

[@nicksluder4764]

Great vid, thanks for all the info! I've been thinking about getting a new crf250l for a while, and since watching some videos on it I've decided to do it. Everyone has great things to say about them, I've never owned a Honda only a Yamaha and Kawasaki but I really like this one a lot more than the other options from those two. I want it bad enough to get it financed and only putting about half the money down haha never wanted to finance a bike but this thing looks worth it!

[@uaetub]

I have to especially agree with your closing statement. Just get on it and ride with no worries. Enjoy your day. That's what it's all about. I've got the 2016 and can't wait to get on it and just get lost.

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you and I hope you enjoy it! I sure have loved mine so far.

[@abdulrockman3992]

This is the dude who later bought a 450L and called it his dream bike right?

[@gregmulfort9577]

That's what I thought too!

[@snaxgalore5764]

He got it for cheap

[@thortreslan4509]

Yea and then later turned back to the 250l

[@allenwood3329]

I agree, my 17 250l is my second, very customizable and all kind of parts and upgrades. I paid $4,744 out the door with a $400 gift card, I used that money towards exhaust, hand guards, EJK, and black paint for the wheels. It looks and sounds great for under 5k that’s unbeatable.

[@AdventureDaily]

Now that's a great deal! Glad you can see where I am coming from. Thanks for watching!

[@TheOliveBoyzz]

Dang man I didnt even think about the maintenance part of it. You make a very good point with that. Yes 450L would be a bad ass bike to own but 250 will do alot for price tag and maintenance. Good video man

[@AdventureDaily]

It really isn’t that bad but definitely not for everybody. Most people will do just fine with the 250L, thank you for watching!

[@nigebb]

Hey mate - just wondering your thoughts on changing the stock handle bar on the 250L.? I was thinking of changing to the pro taper SE - henry / Reed?

[@danmasterson4128]

Great video! Your assessment of both bikes is accurate. I love my CRF250L for what it is. And it's a truly great little dual sport bike. I love the power of a 450 but if I'm spending that kind of money and putting up with the much higher maintenance, I'm buying a KTM. For pure fun and worry free riding enjoyment I voted (with my dollars) for the CRF250L. Keep up the great work! Love your channel.

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Dan I'm glad you enjoyed it! The 250L is a great bike people just like to complain.

[@ericcoppola]

thank you so much for that in depth , to the point, and great review showing all the points of both.. if everyone did comparisons like this the internet world would be better off... lol...

[@AdventureDaily]

No problem I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@MrJohnboe]

You make awesome vids (I've only seen this one though) - subscribed. Very good content and some quality humor in there........likable dude too unlike many I've seen that are annoying.

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Bob! Glad to have you here on the channel👍🏻

[@mr.bangerz2582]

Is that toolbox and bike stand harbor freight? Great Content bro.

[@snupermoto723]

so true, DRZ 450please, 6 spd, FI, 45 hp, low maintenance. mmmmmmmm dreamin

[@AdventureDaily]

Now that would be something! We can only hope.

[@troybolton4055]

Build your own. 434 bigbore with an FCR will get you 45 hp ACT wide ratio transmission with the the additional power of the BB will stop you from trying to shift to 6th. A well setup FCR is as close to FI as any motorcycle carburetor ever got. If you still want FI that has also been done. The LTZ400 is FI and basically the same core engine as the DRZ. See Thumpertalk.com for additional details.

[@sciencemilitia1853]

@@troybolton4055 Agreed on the FCR. They work just as well as EFI in every way.

[@viralvidz4u257]

i hope!! one day!! i think the best bike would be a drz400 6 spd fuel injection BUT! weigh @ 250lbs ABS that can be switched off when you hit offroad that would be the best bike in my opinion

[@E2Moto]

6th gear is all I could wish for my DRZ, and the carb can stay.

[@noahdupont8440]

I remember when I took a 200x motor out of a three wheeler and put it on a Yz 250 frame.Everything came out perfect and it was fast.Hondas use to be affordable for the regular rider.I Sincerely hope the 250s don’t go up in price

[@allans7281]

Great video!! Do u like the 250 rally for 50/50 st and offroad riding? I like the looks of it. Happy rid’n!!

[@shotdown95]

After having owned both bikes now do you stick by this? I'm looking at the new 300l or a used 450l so am interested in knowing

[@TheAlcanboy]

Great video! I sincerely wish Honda will make 300cc version of CRF250L while keeping the price tag close to the current model.

[@AdventureDaily]

We can only hope.. Thanks for the comment and thank you for watching!

[@michaellovell2518]

I've been thinking about getting the updated klx250... Honda makes very reliable bikes, but the camo Kawi just speaks to me.

[@AdventureDaily]

The camo is definitely sweet, I was hoping they had a response but it looks like they could care less for now.

[@GiuseppeSimonetti]

I like the camo a lot, you can also camo the CRF250L but the Kawi kinda just looks nicer, I think it's a slight bit taller too

[@maxwellrundle1351]

Great video man great view cant wait for more man keep them coming

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you man! Glad to have you on the channel.

[@mjfox1190]

Yep. I had reached the same conclusion. Great content, man. Keep em coming!😉

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you James glad we can both agree!

[@nickarpino9309]

Im with you on this. I thought I would run to the dealer when they came out with a 450. Until I realized I already had my favorite bike , the 250L

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you for understanding my point! I was hoping for a more refined 250L with 200 more cc's.

[@astromann7449]

Honda needs a 350 again.

[@bombidude]

I bought one a 450L and out the door was 10k.. well worth it I think.. it's a great bike.

[@AdventureDaily]

It is definitely a great bike! I'd love to own one.

[@mtube620]

doesn't sound convincing when u have to think about it

[@TarmacBlackIX]

did that include tax and tags?

[@bombidude]

@@TarmacBlackIX yes.. price was 9400

[@TarmacBlackIX]

bombidude nice. Thanks man. Ill try to bring this ppl down. Anything below 10 otd is deff worth it (in my opinion)

[@rcbutler5311]

This was an eye opener. Thank you.

[@DCOURTS1984]

Well done here...i appreciate the candidness and balanced comments. Totally your opinion and valid points. Makes total sense.

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Daniel! Glad you can see where I'm coming from.

[@KentwoodWarrior]

Such a disappointment. I agree the 250L is the better option, plus the service intervals. 250L is bulletproof

[@AdventureDaily]

Glad you can see where I am coming from! I was hoping for a more refined 250L with 200 more cc's.

[@chris425amp7]

These are solid 250 lumps

[@roykaplan3316]

My 07 crf 450x lasted for 12 years - never opened the motor until this year and is was running awesome. Cylinder was reused as it was fine. The 450L will last a long time even if you neglect it. The 450 is way more bike than the 250L. The 250x is much more of a bike than the 250L too - but no plate and thousands more. The 250L is a great for bike for the money.

[@deanmechanical]

I bet you never even rode one!

[@imyourhuckleberry357]

Absolutely agreed, maintenance is a huge deal I would say with most dual sporters. Most don't want to change oil every 10 hrs. We want decent power and low maintenance intervals. Kinda like the Suzuki DRZ400s.

[@AdventureDaily]

Exactly! Glad you can understand my views, thank you for watching!

[@canammasseymd.2534]

Good video man. Do you recommend the Honda 250 duel sport for an adult beginner rider? I’m mainly looking for ease of use for trail riding.

[@RonaldJeremy69]

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO VERY INFORMINTAVE

[@eljuano28]

We needed an updated XR with a license plate. We got a KTM that talks funny. It looks like a GREAT performer, but I'd take 35 horse that only takes the occasional oil and tire change. The bulletproof Honda do-it-all middleweight is a thing of the past I guess.

[@AdventureDaily]

I agree! Glad you can see where I am coming from.

[@sciencemilitia1853]

I have an XR600R (Do not confuse it for an XR650L) that is dualsported, and I agree, to a point. We really needed everything in the dualsport world updated thougj. Everything is old as shit. XR600R engine with a CRF450R chassis/suspension, and a 6 gear transmission. That would be something really special if they could keep it light weight.

[@stimpsonjcat26]

Glad I got my xr650r a few years back. No one wants to get rid of them anymore.

[@trevfirefy8179]

How about an street legal XR 400 with a magic button and wide range tranny, and long range fuel tank. C'mon honda🙏

[@mikenelson189]

@@trevfirefy8179 I just converted my xr400 to estart and it's freaking awesome! I grin Everytime I start it.

[@billb8862]

I love that the 450L is more dirt worthy!

[@bobz1736]

Great video. Love you style. Wish you did more like this...

[@RonaiHenrik]

Perfect, I'm 190 pounds 6 ft 5. A question to you. Is your CRF250L standard and can you ride itt off-road in a standing position? I want to buy this bike but I feel like it might be not the best for standing.

[@MrScoobieman]

I have the 250 L and I love it, I took the 450 for a test ride, so much power and feels much lighter....The price is too heavy though

[@xxanguslolxx5662]

I love the 250L mines perfect for me I just wish it was a little faster and stronger as I slipped on a muddy spot and my handlebars bent, no big deal but it is a pain

[@AdventureDaily]

Me too they are awesome bikes that just put a smile on your face. Definitely need some aftermarket bars!

[@eliashaikal4181]

I saw a recent vid showing love to the 450L once you got the vortex ecu and yoshi s4. Still feeling the same way when comparing this 250l to the 450? I'm debating on this purchase now. Great vids!

[@michaelosteen9069]

How does the 250l do on the highway? I’m looking for another dual sport bike, but I have to ride a decent amount on highway to get to the dirt. My last bike was a drz400 but it was pretty buzzy at highway speeds.

[@jackh3522]

Exactly my take on 450l, insane amount of maintenance required so I bought 250 rally added muffler,ejk,air box mod and 13t sprocket bike rips, half the price, to bad honda didn't make 350 same weight, would sell like hotcakes, they refuse to make what we ask for

[@AdventureDaily]

Glad we can agree, I love the 250L just wish it was a bit lighter. Hopefully someday they will answer our prayers.

[@michaeltutnichts-zursache8258]

Well, that's exactly what I was thinking about the CRF450L. I am a proud owner of a 2017 CRF250L ABS (owned the 2014 model before) and I do own two Honda Hornet (599 and 919) as well. I spent 7000 EUR for all those bikes together plus another 1500 EUR for a 1986 Yamaha TY250 Trial bike. That's 2000 EUR less comparing to the 450L, but I got four really genious bikes for that! In Germany, only 25hp would be street legal for the CRF250L, just as much as with the 250. There would be absolutely no reason for me to spend so much money for the 450L. Plus, as mentioned, the service intervalls are just ridiculous if you're into dual purpose bikes. That's what you would expect from a moto cross bike (okay, a 2-stroke Gas Gas needs to be maintenanced every bunch of hours, but hey, that's a competition bike). So...I have to admit that I'm in love with that slow, chubby 250 which is doing exactly what I had expected. 130 kilometers per hour, city traffic, commuting, riding trails and much, much more.

[@AdventureDaily]

I am glad you can see where I am coming from! Sounds like an awesome lineup you have! I was hoping for a more refined 250L with 200 more cc's.

[@derrick.outdoors]

As always, great content.

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Derrick!

[@kyjelly5524]

How often do you do the air filter on the dual sport? Every dirt ride?

[@mollygrubber]

Why can't Honda build what amounts to a CRF250L with somewhat better suspension and a somewhat bigger motor? CRF350L? I'd pay more for that bike. NOT $10k, but more.

[@AdventureDaily]

Agreed! Glad you can understand where I'm coming from.

[@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney]

I think a CRF250L/CRF250 Rally with a re-tuned (for lower-rpm peak torque) CB300 engine, real suspension, and CRF450L wheels/tires would be the perfect bike. I really think that if I could have that bike, I could sell my Rally Raid CB500X and my TW200 (nah, I'll always have the TeeDub) and only ride one bike.

[@GiuseppeSimonetti]

I'd pay $10k for a CRF450L of it was an actual L. Lol not a X.

[@rickshawphilippines]

Many Asian countrys have a 250cc limit before huge taxes. And Asia is the biggest market

[@xxturbowesxx]

You can use a CBR300 crank and a 305 big bore and get 349cc's with a 450r injector. there's a combo that's 320cc's that you can use the stock fuel system. Honda wont make a 350L because they sell the crap out of these all over the world and alot of countries penalize you for anything over 250cc's(kinda like the 50cc limit on scooters).

[@WOODZMAN]

I definitely agree with you about the price. It’s crazy that you can buy 2 new CRF250L’s and still have money left for the price of the 450L. And yes I was like you, I wanted a 450L but in reality l wanted a bike that was like the 250L, low maintenance and bulletproof only in a 450cc. That in my opinion would be the perfect dual sport !

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you for understanding where I am coming from, I enjoy your channel Woodzman! Looking forward to more adventures.

[@roykaplan3316]

It's 900 less than bikes in the same Class. I have a crf450x and a KTM 500EXC. The Honda is certainly a good deal if the KTM is. I love them both. If changing oil is too hard for you, get an electric bike.

[@jimbom6307]

It does exist now! GPX FSE450R

[@allans7281]

Great video thanks for the information what do you think of the 250 CRF rally?

[@AdventureDaily]

You are welcome! I have actually never ridden one so I can’t say. Just seems like more unnecessary weight to me.

[@omicrongaming3198]

Question ? Can i used the fairings of crf450 for my crf 250? Thanks

[@Trail_Rides]

Well. I know it’s more expensive but Ktm makes the best street legal dirt bikes. Worth the money.

[@AdventureDaily]

KTM's are awesome. I will definitely in another someday.

[@billcotton1551]

I have the 250 Rally ,that I love ,wish it had more hp ,but still a great bike.The 450l ,though probably an awesome bike ,seems to miss the dual sport mark.

[@AdventureDaily]

I love the look of the Rally! Thanks for understanding my point exactly, hope you stick around here on the channel!

[@DadsDomain]

Took me awhile to get to this point as well but I think this video is spot on

[@ShaMoneyMOB]

I was thinking about selling my 2018 WR250R Nd getting th new 450L but after watching this video I decided to keep my WR. 450L is too much maintenance.. Great Video!

[@AdventureDaily]

Good choice! Thank you for watching 😁

[@KNIGHTRACEDOTCOM]

Good review, I wanted the 450 Honda, ice I read the specs and price.... I don't think it is as good as a KTM 525. same upkeep. I would love an XR650R. today I think the best dual sport if they will make it will be a WR450 with WR250 upkeep.. This guy is correct it is a high maintenance bike.. The WR250r is very low even lower than the 250 Honda. If Yamaha would make a Wr450R it may be the best choice.

[@AdventureDaily]

I have been waiting on Yamaha for years to answer our prayers but I just don't think it will happen. Thanks for the comment and thank you for watching!

[@CRsportfishingca]

I bought a 450L, my riding partner has two 525's ... for what you can pick a used 525 up for, they are better value. But my partner has rubber mounted bars, and the vibration is crazy. The 450L has the 525 crushed ! when it comes to how smooth it is.

[@TSOL_in_LOS]

First thing any 250L owner should do is get one of those fancy Seat Concepts seats you got. That factory seat will tear you a new one.....

[@AdventureDaily]

That is definitely a must! Honestly one of the main reasons I love that bike lol.

[@gbfrederico]

Interesting points. Never considered the price difference nor the maintenance cost of the 250. Good video, my friend!

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Gabriel! Glad you enjoyed it😁

[@burtonvlogs407]

Great video bro, very informative

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Burton!

[@sawyerwallace9631]

Why not WR250R?

[@AdventureDaily]

That's a known fact😂

[@allamerican2605]

I am big Honda Fan, but the 450L is nothing but hype. I have ridden it and while it's fun it certainly by no means a beast. My 1985 XR600R can smoke it. Like AD mentioned you can buy a great dirtbike and streetbike lightly used for that kind of money. Not trashing it by any means, it's just all it's cracked up to be.

[@AdventureDaily]

Agreed! Glad someone agrees with me who has actually ridden it, thanks for the comment and thank you for watching!

[@nedt]

Good video well presented. Here in Australia Honda has announced a CRF250f trail bike and it looks road legal here (then again a DRZ400E is road legal here) it will be interesting to see if this 'replaces' the XR250

[@johntheaccountant5594]

Excellent video and some great points. It was a shame Honda couldn't just bolt the 450 engine to the CRF250L chassis.

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you! Glad you see where I am coming from, I think the 300r in the 250L frame would be awesome!

[@JayGee6996]

You expected hate and ended up with love! Great overview. I fully agree. The only reason I'd have a 450L is if someone gave it to me for free.

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Jay! Glad you can see where I am coming from, and yeah me too lol.

[@GiuseppeSimonetti]

I would buy a CRF450L if I found one for cheap. Idk I'd probably pay like $5,000 at most or something like that give or take in new condition.

[@henryhiggins2021]

Honda CRF250L Rally is the go

[@OgreMoto]

Henry Higgins lol yeah let's make the 250L heavier and give it the same power

[@vincentbaelde-millar670]

@@OgreMoto but now it looks cool as fuck! so being even slower than slow is fine

[@davexs]

Rally is upwards of a 1000 bucks more than the standard 250L.........and all you get is more plastic!!!!!!

[@astromann7449]

Honda already did this in the late 80's. The NX line- overweight plastic piles of sh/t. 125, 250 and 650 if I remember right. Lightweight rallys are for gay boys. Good for nothing.

[@jaymontgomery3330]

dave xs .. you get a bigger gas tank too. 2.7 gal.

[@ButtersDaBaller]

Really informative video man thank you!! I agree the 450 just costs too much, but the maintenance is a deal breaker. I’m probably going to go for the 2018 250 rally, thoughts?

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you butters glad you can understand where I am coming from, the Rally is a great bike! It just all depends on how you plan to ride it.

[@HughGenvaney]

Awesome review! Exactly the info I was looking for

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Michael I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@mikemooch7719]

I don't get why people are so hung up on the maintenance. An oil change on the 450L takes less than 15 minutes. IMO for a street legal dirt bike with the power it has is well worth it. It's by far the most fun bike I ever owned. The 250L is a great bike but to say it's better is crazy. I'd much rather do more maintenance & have more power, but that's just me. Ride safe everybody!

[@attilakovacs1727]

Mike Mooch yeah its not the time about the oil change, more like the price. And the problem whit that is the 450 l is not a race dirt bike you can’t take it to a track and expect it to be a resonable bike there because its a dual sport and thats the biggest thing in my opinion. If they could sell like crf R -s strret legal everyone would jump on that who whould like to ride offroad isntead of the L series

[@sciencemilitia1853]

@@attilakovacs1727 You literally could take this to the track and ride legit motocross with it.

[@attilakovacs1727]

Science Militia1 i dont particularry know these bikes but from what i heard this is my opinion

[@AdventureDaily]

Crank service at 15-20k? no thanks, I don't mind adjusting valves or the oil change but myself and 90% of others were hoping for a more refined 250L with 200 more cc's, not a plated dirt bike.

[@mikemooch7719]

Attention Deficit I gotcha. As someone who bought the bike to ride around my city, I’ll never see that kind of mileage. I just wanted a sick, street legal dirt bike.

and you bought a 450L later on...:)

[@xCanuckfan16x]

I ride in the wet coast and just wondering if certain bikes are better for rainy weather or is it all dependent on the tires themselves ? I've been really eyeing the 250L

[@AdventureDaily]

Tires are everything! Get rid of those stock tires asap if you haven't already. Thank you for watching!

[@camothewise8608]

Dude thank you soo much for this video. It is amazing I am soo exited to get it but it’s not worth even close to the price. I’m going with a semi used something else forsure brother. Thanks you!!

[@AdventureDaily]

No problem man glad I could help!

[@repsol6198]

I agree about the 450L being way overpriced, like you said after taxes and all the other fees they tack on your looking at close to $12,000, ridiculous.

[@clutchitup8565]

i know a guy that paid 18,000$ for a husky 450 sumo

[@bikendrakhulal7314]

We pay $11,000 for the 250l

[@theninja001]

Exactly, this is what I just paid for a new 2017 Africa Twin!

[@sciencemilitia1853]

The CRF450R costs $9300. This bike has the same platform, but a lot of added durability and comes street legal. So it costs $1000 more than a CRF450R. Its built off of a CRF450R. You expected it to cost less than a CRF450R? Think a little harder.

[@AdventureDaily]

Yeah I just can't justify that, then again I don't buy new anything lol.

[@Premises187]

Great video. We get seriously screwed in the EU with the 25hp version 😂

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you! And yes you really did.. That's just wrong lol.

[@thedirtbikeranch5401]

Yes!!I said the same thing bout the price...they doubled the 2017 model price for a few goodies...lol...I agree 100% on ur thoughts of it...great vid bro...

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Pat I'm glad you agree!

[@wolfman175]

Couldn't agree with you more. Same/similar category, but very different bikes. Plan on checking out your channel, I like your delivery. On an unrelated note, which lift is that and how do you like it? Thanks!

[@AdventureDaily]

Glad you see where I am coming from, the lift is from Harbor Freight and it has changed my life lol, such a great lift for the money and makes working on things so much more enjoyable, I actually made a full video about it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/eojJiGiMqpWfgqs

[@sonamsherpa3523]

In my country you need to pay $12,000 for CRF250L, I wonder how much it will cost for CRF 450L hmm..

[@erickgaray463]

Sonam Sherpa your whole left arm

[@GiuseppeSimonetti]

What country are you from?

[@foloeel]

Totally agree with you about the 450l, Honda missed out on huge potential sales ignoring the droves of people crying out for a true 450 version of the 250L. To add insult to injury here in Europe we are getting a 24hp version , can't imagine they will sell a single one, KTM exc f's are currently being sold for less. I'm same size as you which has put me off getting the 250L but you are talking me round. Cheers for the vids.

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Olof! Sorry you guys got screwed over with that hopefully there is some way to un-cork it, my height has definitely been an advantage when riding the 250L so I'd say it is a prefect fit!

[@controlledfreakr]

Nice video🤜🏾💯

[@deanmechanical]

I have the 450L and so far, LOVE IT! It eats tires for breakfast! Wheelies are so much fun. I've gone from street bike to dirt bike and even owned 4 brand new Harley's, my last was totaled last summer. I'm going to be 56 years old and this is one of the funniest bikes EVER!

[@therealslimshady4555]

I bought a mint 2014 crf 450x and a real low mileage k6 Suzuki gsxr 1000 for the price of that 450L🤔

[@AdventureDaily]

Exactly! Glad you can see where I am coming from.

[@laprepper]

10K is an ungodly amount of money for a dirt bike. even a 400, even a new honda.

[@AdventureDaily]

For sure!

[@danielschurr6817]

Good thing its not a dirt bike, its the first japanese made 450 dual sport. Getting a 450 race motor to pass emisions is the reason why its 10k but you can get them new for $7500. For most of us riders a 250L wont cut it

[@laprepper]

@@danielschurr6817 yeah 250l is just a little underpowered on the freeway and if you're going up some crazy terrain but for probably 80 to 85% of what most ppl are going to ride I think it works very well. To be perfectly honest I really think if you absolutely want to offer and capability a dirt bikes the way to go, it just sucks that you can't always ride them on fire trails especially in California where they want you to have an on highway vehicle

[@yalvar]

hey guys, what do you think about the Husky 701, Is it low maintenance? what about cost of service/parts and reliability?

[@AdventureDaily]

The 701 is a great bike! I personally would never own one but if you keep up on the maintenance it should treat you well.

[@wjb111]

Great channel, great video!! I agree the 250L seems so much more practical and doesn’t break the bank. Loving my 2017CRF 250L. Unfortunately it’s getting a bit on the cold side here in Michigan. 😤

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you I appreciate it! Glad you agree. Also they make heated gear😁

[@dublinbikereire]

Get a 450 x 👌🏻

[@AdventureDaily]

I'd love one!

[@boomer8393]

You're right - CRF450L is 'way' overpriced.

[@AdventureDaily]

Glad someone else can agree!

[@michaelosteen9069]

Safe space!! Lmbo!! Nice video man!!

[@AdventureDaily]

I knew this would trigger some people haha thank you man!

[@kimkelberg]

What a great look your little Honda have , Nice styling

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Kim!

[@CRIFLIFE]

I’m a Honda guy but when I can spend $300 bucks more on a ktm exc 350 which i literally do not have to do anything to, i’m going to buy the ktm.

[@danny12threes6]

Our dreams of a company making a cheap, lightweight, durable, low maintenance, 6 speed dual sport with 400ish seems impossible. I was looking at the husqvarna fe350, that seems like a pretty good bike but for a shit load of $$ and probably too much wrenching for my taste.

[@AdventureDaily]

Maybe someday.. We can only hope🙏

[@mogulin_da_skies7516]

Well.. damn. Was gonna buy a 450l but need something a little better for luggage/ adv/ a passenger if need be, was gonna get an xr650 but found out that it weighs 100 lbs more and don’t really have much more performance than the 250l . Went and sat on a 250l rally and it felt perfect . Is it any good on road? I need it to be decent at both. . Ugh..choices choices , lol

[@AdventureDaily]

The Rally will struggle a bit on the road in comparison to the 450L but just don’t expect to cruise 80 and you should be happy with it!

[@BikingBuddies]

What a cracking video and well balanced perspective across both of those bikes. I've got to agree on the price difference though - they are miles apart

[@AdventureDaily]

Thank you Paul I appreciate it! Still hoping you make a leap to the dirt side this off season!

[@BikingBuddies]

@@AdventureDaily You never know - I've been toying with the idea.....

[@sciencemilitia1853]

CRF450L is the only true dualsport. They made it as good on the street as they could without neutering its off road abilities. This is a dualsport for guys that come from a dirtbike background. Not ADV guys. Not streetbikers. This Bike is for a young wealthy man who will not accept sub par off road performance. Thank you Honda.

[@AdventureDaily]

I come from a dirt bike background but value my money too much to pay 12k for a dirt bike, I'd much rather spend $3k and plate a wr450f, but I see where you are coming from, thanks for the comment and thank you for watching!

[@sciencemilitia1853]

@@AdventureDaily Well comparing bikes in the used market to brand new bikes... we're comparing apples and starfishes lol. True though. I always buy used.

[@twidget0]

@@AdventureDaily thats probably fine in oregon but in CA you cant plate anything without going through sketchy legal loopholes that may or may not work. The only plated bikes here are factory plated, and your only options until now were ktm husky or beta which are up there too in price. If you dont want to spend the money whatever but I dont see why you would give an opinion without firsthand experience, maybe you should ride one lol

[@sciencemilitia1853]

@@ColoradoForestBeings What the fuck are you even talking about? You sound like a fucking streetbike pussy who just got offended

[@joehop5780]

WR250R... 1st valve adjustment @ 26,000 miles, oil changes every 3,000, and smoke any CRF250L or KLX250 and way better off road and at highway speeds than a DRZ.

[@AdventureDaily]

The wr250r is definitely the best option👍🏻

[@curtishegarty500]

Nice review. I love my 250L I didnt know it could go 16000 miles before valve adjustment.

[@AdventureDaily]

It’s a brute!

[@mutilatedjello]

Did my girlfriends 250l valves for the first time at 25,000. Only one was out of spec.

[@VinceVideo53]

Had an 84 xl600. 327 pounds if I remember right. It cut out at stoplights but on the open road or trail it was pretty unstoppable. After watching this video, I now realize what a great and irreplaceable bike it was.

[@AdventureDaily]

I really want to get my hands on one..