Aegis: Better Than Salvation? (Elite Dangerous)

[@meidomiseri]

"And I'll do it again" - Azimuth Biotech probably

[@Сталкер-ь2х]

"I'LL FUCKING DO IT AGAIN" (C) dank goofy, scratch that, azimuth biotech

[@AnotherOne-Retro-Paladin]

I'll support Azimuth or Salvation just because it will be fun

[@GeologyJournalism]

o7 CMDR Jameson.

[@MagusLay]

I'm glad you made the distinction between what INRA and Salvation did before and what we are doing now. It would be great if we could just stop fighting, but we can't, so we need to do our best. In my mind, giving everyone a chance to escape and removing a source of Thargpower (manpower but more Thargoid) is a quick way to reduce the amount of fighting while reducing casualties and fatalities.

[@Kissamiess]

AX specialists are doing great job containing Leigong already. Oya will be somewhat harder, but still manageable. The ones after that will take more time.

[@Tecnicomando]

ok we destroyed a titan, but lettuces are an ancient race that adapts, taking that into account, when we destroy the last titan how long will they respond?

[@fossiliitv824]

Indeed

[@tabularasa0606]

They are probably already building a supertitan.

[@fossiliitv824]

@@tabularasa0606 hyper mega super titan

[@AnotherOne-Retro-Paladin]

And we will build the super nanite torpedo. For the Super Bubble!

[@timogavril6934]

@@tabularasa0606 Ah HELL NAH. I imagined for a second a Jupiter-Sized Titan. _Nope_

[@KaitoSLF]

"It's not inhumane if it's not human." / "The only good bug is a dead bug." CMDR JJameson did what it was needed to do. o7

[@shadow_spark8788]

If we can find targoid's home systems, it's gonna be nightmare ... for them. **Intimidating Shardconda's noises**

[@whendarknessfalls6969]

I like how one is questioning the Proteus wave explosions after killing the titans...

[@Larry_Parada]

I find it odd that i went to crash site last night and got some odd messages in chat greeting me but not from cmdrs as i was the only one in there

[@alexsabau5942]

System chat spreads across all gamemodes, whether open, pg or solo

[@Datan0de]

I don't care about Thargoid lives. Not one bit. But i do care about human lives and humanity in general. INRA's only crime was screwing over Jameson. That makes them bad guys, but their willingness to deploy the mycoid virus is A-OK in my book. (I respect that Jameson would disagree.) Salvation and Azimuth, however, are monstrous. They're mass murderers who should have the names of every person lost on the Alexandria and in the Cornsar system cut into them, then surrendered to the 'Goids. Hell, by actively sabotaging Aegis, they showed that their goal wasn't to defeat the Thargoids or protect humanity, but rather to feed their own narcissistic bloodlust.

[@markjacobs3665]

I think the Salvation weapon was a ruse to allow him to slip in the Guardian network. The weapon turned green just like the relics, what's up with that? I think things aren't what they seem.

[@austinm5630]

You may be onto something there, but if so, then it's terrible writing on Frontier's part. In all the previous audio logs, the Wytch was shown to be a xenophobe above all else. He wouldn't put himself inside an alien machine. He might put himself inside a human machine, but never an alien one.

[@markjacobs3665]

@@austinm5630 Well it may turn out that the Guardians are our ancestors. Another point, he was old as hell. Those cells he was taking to stay alive, aren't better than being in the Guardian network. With the power to control its A.I., Salvation is coming back, with the A.I. to eliminate the Thargoids. That was his goal all along, get control of the Monolith. While we have eyes on the Thargoids, I bet somewhere Salvation is doing something and we havnt come across it. I'm Cmdr Lordhavmercy btw.

[@fossiliitv824]

Can you imagine a galaxy free of thargoids?......i can't.......i won't

[@andrewabbiw8183]

Hmm this video seems to be leaving some interesting possibilities for the future. Looks like the items we will find in the debris field will help construct the Python Mk II and that potentially, that might allow us to travel to ammonia based worlds!!!! :O surely not!?????

[@CMDR_RileyAngel]

I think Python Mk II being PvP-based is gonna have PvP-based "special feature". Besides, it's kinda silly to give only 1 ship the potential to travel ammonia worlds.

[@wstavis3135]

​@CMDR_RileyAngel they have announced 4 new ships. The mkII Is merely the first.

[@CMDR_RileyAngel]

@@wstavis3135 at this point they should give all ships some special feature, or otherwise this will be unbalanced af.

[@andrewabbiw8183]

@@CMDR_RileyAngel it's likely that they would spread the capability out as time goes on. Exciting times nonetheless o7 😋

[@DavidUtau]

​@@CMDR_RileyAngel > "Every ship should have 1 special feature" > "Or it WILL be unbalance" Read it again. Wrong.

[@Timberwolf69]

I somewhat hope we don't find a way to the Thargoid home systems...

[@shadow_spark8788]

I think they should hope the most )

[@Timberwolf69]

@@shadow_spark8788 Well, exactly because of that. ^

[@antilar4579]

I was there when taranis exploded and I have to admit it felt kinda tragic. Anyway more Arx incoming for all of us I guess.

[@devoutrelic1228]

Huh? Where is it said that the FSD was reverse engineered from Thargoid tech? If anything, it's implied they THEY took it from US when the Titans arrived, to better be able to track human ships down. It's been a long known fact that Thargoids didn't NEED anything like supercruise before then, because of how accurately they can navigate Witchspace. And we had hyperdrives capable of jumping between systems long before the first appearance of the Thargoids, so I doubt that part is from them either, especially considering how much worse our version is than theirs. I really enjoyed the video as always, this line just caught me off guard.

[@Windrake101]

It's old lore

[@Сталкер-ь2х]

fsd was reverse engineered by alliance from goids, however ftl travel was a thing before, using same engines that capital ships do. The reason fsd is used on small ships, is its size and charge speed. Fsd however cant be used for capital ships, it would be too ineffective compared to tritium engines

[@devoutrelic1228]

@@Сталкер-ь2х But where is that said? Because it's nowhere that I can find in the wiki of any of the Elite games. The wiki also says that it was developed by Sirius, not the Alliance.

[@cmdrdyland]

it's the fundamental reason for Sirius Corporation's growth & ownership of the Lucifer planet. Alliance originally had plans and the nonhuman equipment to produce the modern FSD, but the Club transferred the project to the Sirius Corporation last second as I understand it. Their dominance as a corporation, nearly bordering a superpower state, comes from their involvement in this process. And fast by, hanging in a golden chain, This pendent world, in bigness as a star, Of smallest magnitude, close by the moon.@@Windrake101

[@alexsabau5942]

⁠@@Сталкер-ь2хI’m pretty sure it’s the opposite - tritium engines can’t be feasibly downscaled to fit our ships, and current FSDs with both whitchspace and supercruise are much more recent inventions

[@hasturtheunstable6915]

Aegis always were the bad guys, they just dressed like the good guys and everyone ate it up. Note: Salvation is also a bad guy. There are no good guys. Everything is actually just Warhammer.

[@AnotherOne-Retro-Paladin]

There no good or bad guys in the natural selection between two species.

[@Rainbro359]

Yup. Aegis are at best just a puppet of the powers, they escalated the initial war drastically with stuff like Operation "shoot everything that moves" Andronicus and then acted surprised when the Thargoids retaliated (against Aegis stations, in Thargoid territory, full of stolen Thargoid tech transmitting signals...) They talk a lot about understanding the Thargoids, but their actions are always of war. When we finally got proof that, yeah, the Thargoids were attacking because of the invasion of the Pleiades, Aegis just claimed it was "our space" and carried on regardless, invading Witch Head as well the moment the space oil ran out. They're also the main suspects for luring Thargoids into the bubble to trigger further attacks, with covert convoys of Thargoid tech and transmitters.

[@OldManPaxusYT]

THANKS! Perfect timing for me too, as just yesterday i was asking some friends, 'what happened again?', 'im a bit fuzzy on human-thargoid history'! 😋

[@fossiliitv824]

I feel sorry for the guy

[@MrSokitumi0007]

I think in reality raxxla might be a Maltese or old pirate word for paradise or peace.

[@DavidHanniganJr]

Analytics!

[@Dandroid_1]

Frankly, i find the idea of a bug that thinks offensive. If Aegis starts worrying about sparing bugs, i might start raiding their vessels. Sell the loot to Azimuth.

[@steammausss164]

Never put faith into sketchy alien technology

[@MethodicalAnarchy]

We killled all the remaining hostages, but sparing the enemy soldier lives is apparently what matters here

[@stateki4023]

we should use mycoid again

[@Datan0de]

They've immunized themselves against it.

[@bloodwing9597]

Release 4.0 on console

[@Metalbirne]

The Thargoids are probably the good guys in this war.

[@cmdr501generalvenator3]

traitor

[@alexsabau5942]

I don’t think there’s good guys in this war

[@stew-03]

After the goids are gone, we are coming for you pro-xeno fucks next 🗿

[@AnotherOne-Retro-Paladin]

Thargoids are just another species in the natural selection. There no good or bad guys. We or they. People who believe in diplomacy are silly.

[@Metalbirne]

@@cmdr501generalvenator3 Why traitor?

[@techquad1151]

After we got fps it was no longer only a space sim. the money now is here: hold on: For the most new players, Frontier need to make foot mission to interact with the pvp combat (40%) wanted FPS (60%) wanted new ships. these i guess are 60% are like me.. played for a decade. They would like to see a option to eject from the spaceship in their suit. that comes along with the walk inside ship etc pack easy.. more money Frontier.. to begin with, this starport and settlement are great.. However. only a few have time /cash for this nice updates. If they want ED survive they rly do a mistake in the prio section cuz: they need new players.. gameplay thinker (this cant be wanted from the community) reason aare the community as me will keep play and evolve, well what about the new players. its a larger picture here: This is a update for the ELITE KINGS players to be honest, not a prio for new players, this does not make sense with Jumpstart packs to get new players for a long time progress. This updates are only good for us that played for 10 years. I love it, its just not for new players! Was not that the goal: cash >survive. old vett`s we love the game anyway including me, think smart Frontier.. Also maybe somehow Include the FPS foot /or missions to also merge PvP on foot (at least factions vs faction in settments . and if they can make us walk in those ships as they talked about before Odessy came (THEY DID NOT PROMISE).. that alone would make futures almost unlimited? they could then also sell so many items/skins for survival of ED, this game could go for 10 more years if done in the correct prio.. they have a money machine, they still don`t do it right to survive with new players for long term here. However i LOVE ED. i played 5700 hours and i plan to play 5000 more. Also i support that people can pay to get a start, else this game would die. so thats something a real old vett should love. i support that and i buy that . ONLY cuz ED/Frontier gaved me so much for 65$ in about 10 years. About paint jobs.. for their own good as well.. the paint jobbs are way to expensive. they will earn more with many micro than a few bigger! They should now that the world works lioke that at leastr still it is.. Strange Frontier dont sell this stuff Its very useful to feel like u play a 2025 game, so download EDHM UI.. cuz Frontier don`t sell it.. Its a simple setup install file now and ur ship would look as u like, also menus in the starports etc. and u feel personal. i feel like my ship is from a starwars imperial. Now thats free... , its so importen to have a ship inside look fricking personal and new! The old orange away from almost everything in the game, sure looks much better! i think this sound like a good plan for ED. Or and start produce another ED game could be awsome too. ready for 2028. xD

[@Kaldortangerine]

well, the titans may have been loaded withliving beings other than the humans in the titans i would've like to see a full extraction of at least one titan before its fall

[@kwartylion8134]

palin ... #evancurrie

[@salenstormwing]

Oh right, Salvation; the loser who screwed up so badly that I decided to stop playing because I didn't want to fight B.S. aliens when I was barely okay against B.S. human space combat.

[@Сталкер-ь2х]

at least devs tried to rebalance tharg combat unlike human-human combat

[@salenstormwing]

@@Сталкер-ь2х That's true. That also took almost a year before any of that new equipment made it to sale though. If they wanted to make players WANT to fight Thargs, they really had to rely on players wanting to do it. For me, AX combat seemed like a turn off from what I wanted since normal space combat was already an issue I was running into with what I did have. I know the devs had a lot on their hands, but between Thargs and the poor performance of Space Legs at the exact same time, I didn't really have a desire to get wrapped up in what felt like a game of futility. But that's just my opinion.

[@NoXion100]

Fighting the Thargoids is completely optional. You'll never even see one if you steer clear of the relative handful of systems where they're present. I avoided AX combat entirely until a few days ago. Too specialised and separated off from the rest of the game to entice me to try. Then certain AX modules began being sold for credits, and since I have enough of those I gave it a go and you know what, it's not as bad as I thought. But if you want to carry on giving the angry space flowers a miss, then the galaxy, hell even just the bubble, is more than big enough to accommodate that. I didn't even get into the human PvE combat until I had at least a thousand hours under my belt and had undertaken an expedition to the other side of the galaxy and back. I amassed enough credits to buy a carrier, plus years of upkeep for it, and still have billions left over for rebuys. I'm still not liking the look of ship-to-ship PvP combat outside of CQC/Arena; maybe that will change with the advent of PowerPlay 2.0. Even if it doesn't and PvP remains a no-go, there's still loads of other things to do. I hope you reconsider at some point because I feel like Elite Dangerous has a lot to offer, even if one might not enjoy everything in it.

[@salenstormwing]

@@NoXion100 I'll be truthful, part of me just wanted them to add some stuff to parts of the game I was interested in. Mostly, the ships. I'll probably be back as soon as I find out where to go to get the new Python 2. The Python was a fun ship to fly, and I'd love an updated version of it.

[@OldManPaxusYT]

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[@wstavis3135]

I really hate the Jameson tapes. His idiotic whining about using the Mycoid Virus is pathetic and annoying.

[@DavidUtau]

Ok bot boomer