Nahiri is the new Lukka... (and where are her sword arms??) | The Aftermath Lore

[@maddie4834]

This story is literally nahiri hitting rock bottom and using her lithomancy to keep digging deeper

[@Cassius190]

For real though

[@woofergranade2044]

Truly a “deep” character arc.

[@stephenandolino]

Well put!

[@Nobody-xe9fc]

To be fair, she DID hit rock bottom when she sacrificed herself in Phyrexia.

[@JoeRyuKen]

Nahiri has some serious mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion Ajani is why she got compleated.

[@lenajohnson6179]

Crazy people do a lot of mental gymnastics.

[@Doxicyclin]

she is into the habit of blaming everyone else around her.

[@RaiderX7997]

Gold medal performance for sure

[@timbrault9939]

At least she didn't blame Sorin this time.

[@ZaynethFlow]

@@timbrault9939 it’s clearly ugin’s fault

[@johnnydiaz5196]

This is probably my least favorite story. They never give Nahiri an opportunity to grow or be more than a mindless hateful creature. It’s like no one wants to write any type of arc that will see her join the fold of heroes. I hope the story doesn’t stay this bad. It’s hard enough keeping up with a story developed over years only to be resolved in one set. Thanks for sharing and getting these out so much quicker!

[@gabrielstafford5174]

still no word on Jace or Vraska fates.

[@jjfj1902]

It makes me sad they won't write her like that she's one of my favorite characters

[@juliahenriques210]

Yep. This treatment for Nahiri is so sad. It fits her, ok, but she could have been made to heal, and it would have been easy to make it look good, too. :( So much potencial thrown away for... guess we'll have to wait for the next Zendikar set to find out. :/ That said, she definitely has enough power to "uncomplete" herself. It's no different from how Sorin escaped from her stone, and it's a nice mirror, actually.

[@AetherHub]

I didn’t consider that mirror but it’s a cool way to think of it!

[@juliahenriques210]

@@AetherHub Something else I've been thinking about Nahiri, and I wouldn't be surprised if the creative team actually did it on purpose, is that she's basically behaving as a violent untreated case of borderline personality desorder (if you've ever seen one of those, you'll relate and actually feel sorry for her). The way she reacts to Ajani is painfully familiar to me, as I've seen it happen irl a couple times. To her the world is hell and everything is out to harm her and whatever she loves. Her cup is always a-third-empty. Usually people suffer a lot when they try to lash out at the world and inevitably get hurt in return, but Nahiri is just too strong to be hindered by it. It just fuels her rage at "the overall injustice... of existence". If nothing ever gives her pause, she can never notice how so many things clash with her perception of reality, so she has no reason to rethink it. The best thing that can happen to her now is "intervention", but the only ones who can do it (who have enough in common with her and who are powerful enough to not just be murdered on sight) are Nissa, Jace, Sorin, and Ugin, but all of them have more pressing things to take care of at the moment.

[@erikbghhald2578]

@@juliahenriques210 It whould be so nice (and funny) to see Ugin with the paitience of a centerys old dragon deal with Nahiri. Just being paitient and waiting each time she gets mad just to repriment her for acting like a child.

[@STS-qi1qy]

Nahiri gotta Nahiri. Therapy Cat: Wanna hug? Nahiri: He wants to kill me! I must strike first!

[@henryterhune8328]

Well, the last time she really trusted someone, he locked her in a prison filled with demons for a few hundred or thousand years. Obviously a pretty damaged character, but I've gotta say, I'm disappointed with how WoTC handled this one

[@aceace3100]

She didnt listen to sorin.

[@DarkTider]

I fed an innocent plane to Emrakul! Planeswalkers are clearly bad!

[@TheAgainster]

He tried to force his beliefs on her. And then he legit tried to attack. Nahiri was in the right.

[@airistal]

@@TheAgainster She came to him for help when he was tired and needed rest. She came to the conclusion that he was abandoning her home when all he needed was time. She attacked him to try to force him to help. Nahiri's attack drew Avacyn to intervene. Nahiri declared her intent to destroy Avacyn for thwarting her causing Sorin to use the hellvault in desperation. She has rationalized that lessons she had sought from Sorin as him forcing his beliefs on her afterward.

[@airistal]

Here we go again, Nahiri on the edge of self reflection finds something she doesn't like and starts projecting on others her own faults. I would have hoped that Nahiri could at least have been reasonable but in the end she decides that all planeswalkers were as much of a problem as she was. I was hoping Sorin could have turned up and chose to help her. The time they spent working together would allow them to talk and clear up their poorly chosen chosen words and misconceptions of the past. In the end they wouldn't be friends but rather tolerable acquaintances with light tension and regrets keeping their interactions minimal.

[@PancakeBreakfast]

The way Nahiri is going. They might prop up the Sorin vs Nahiri fight again. It's an interesting situation because the both of them are so similar. Seem to mean good. But have an odd way of accomplishing it. Seems like they want Sorin to eventually try to help Nahiri. Or take her out for good. It will still be a crazy fight even without their sparks

[@frankmorris4603]

After what Nahiri did to Innastrad i highly doubt the selfish Sorin would would to help a projecting self loathing person like Nahiri at this point.

[@lenajohnson6179]

Reason is probably asking a lot from someone who spent 100 years trapped in a prison with demons. She came out of the Helvault insane, and you can't expect someone insane to work their problems out.

[@erebusvonmori8050]

@@lenajohnson6179 She didn't exactly go into the Helvault stable either.

[@lenajohnson6179]

​@@erebusvonmori8050 Eh? She just woke up and found that everyone who said they were gonna be looking after things while she was gone was 100% not doing that. She was probably worried and went and found Sorin essentially chilling in his pad playing videogames. They fought in that way Superheroes in teamup issues fight, doesn't mean she was batshit insane. I don't see why Sorin has so many defenders in this instance. Like, Nahiri is no saint in this situation, it's a woman whose realized someone she respected and believed in is essentially a sociopath with no care or concern for her, and folks commonly defend Sorin here despite the fact he treats the situation with all the care of a true psycopath. He LOCKED HER IN THE HELVAULT... and then tried to pretend like it never happened, and HID it. There's no defense of this. Zero. Nahiri attacked him yes, not great, but 'family' fight on occasion (and she considered him something like a father) that's not cause to throw them in HELL. She was a LOT more stable before she went in there, and whatever faults she had were amplified into real MANIAS by the time she came out. Nahiri is essentially, SORIN'S responsibility. She's INSANE, like truely broken brained psycopath at this juncture, she needs to be put down yes, but truly INSANE people aren't responsible for their actions, they just can't be allowed to be crazy in a sane world. Sorin on the other hand, very dispassionately went about doing everything that turned Nahiri into what she is.

[@CharuzuAutomatonArtificer]

Man, I'm pretty bummed about the treatment of Nahiri in this set. the roundabout logic of making her hate Planeswalkers and then making her lose her own spark is just really disappointing.... Anyway, thank you for the narration Seiben! Have a great day!

[@jasonkorf7700]

I mean it does fit with her character. We are talking about an individual that tried to commit genocide to an entire plane because she blamed one particular individual from that plane for the damage caused to her plane by the Eldrazi.

[@thesamuraiman]

She really said because Ajani got caught by Phyrexia too early, it's his fault she was invited. 😂😂😂😂 That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[@CharuzuAutomatonArtificer]

@@jasonkorf7700 So with the Eldrazi situation it kind of made sense, she sent out an SOS and none of the originals that sealed the Eldrazi came to help, so her finding out Sorin was just being a broody prick would make sense she'd be mad, but her dumb logic that Ajani is the bad guy because he was caught first and then the idea he'd come hunt her down it's just messy and terribly written.... like most of this lore bit tbh

[@thesamuraiman]

@@CharuzuAutomatonArtificer Didn't Sorin also lock Nahiri in the Helvault? Sorin didn't do himself any sympathy points for that. 😂

[@CharuzuAutomatonArtificer]

@@thesamuraiman Exactly my point XD

[@henryterhune8328]

Man, the WOTC writers hate Nahiri, huh? Girl never catches a break! The same set that has said "hey, a bunch of sparks faded for no reason" dangles Nahiri's spark in front of her and then yanks it away like Lucy with a football! Anyway, bummer for her, but I can't say she is wrong that Planeswalkers are more harm than good for the multiverse. Thanks Seiben!

[@airistal]

I'd say that there are far more amicable and helpful planeswalkers then troublemakers, it's just that the troublemakers are more memorable. Her own view of planeswalkers seem to be her projecting her own misdeeds and temperament on the remaining planeswalkers.

[@henryterhune8328]

@@airistal I think plenty of them are nice and well meaning, but their meddling is a huge problem. We know that Ravnica struggled because Jace became the living guildpact, but then often disappeared for long stretches of time. Azor built the immortal sun to trap Nichol Bolas, but it ended up also creating a power imbalance where the empire that had control of it had outsized power. Gideon helped perpetuate the trials of Amonkhet. Nissa freed the Eldrazi. Sarkhan rewrote history, causing a series of genocides and the rise of five different authoritarian dragon cults. Sorin created and then caused the downfall of a social structure on his plane. The list goes on. The don't all mean ill, but they're more trouble than they're worth

[@airistal]

@@henryterhune8328 Her opinion is still overblown and fit's for those more like her.

[@HelminthCombos]

she's too white XD

[@christopherb501]

@@henryterhune8328 And let's not forget all that Urza wrought, that Dyfed got Yawgmoth situated to take over Phyrexia, or that Phyrexia was created by a 'walker to begin with. Nor that _New_ Phyrexia was sired from a planeswalker, created by _another_ planeswalker.

[@TKGEnterainment]

My ears perked up at the end, when you mentioned garruk, I want the big hulking beast of a man back in the lore goddammit😭 now that he isn't cursed he is free to travel not trying to kill every walker

[@AjaniGoldmaneFFXIV]

tbh this story just made me feel bad for ajani and nahiri. I cant blame nahiri for being paranoid and making the wrong choices, every time something bad happens to her people leave, she has gone through a lot and idk just feel bad that she lost her spark at the very end. Tbh the situation just sucked. And Ajani, I feel bad cause of course hes the kind of person that feels horrible about everything he did. having major survivors guilt and not knowing what to do with himself. Hating how nahiri didnt feel the same, how nahiri is the only person he could of gone to because everyone else is dead or missing. that eating away at him. i really want an ajani focused story so we can dive deeper into what hes going through.

[@Nobody-xe9fc]

Maybe the catman goes to Eldraine, possibly to survey the damage done by Phyrexia but finds Garruk lifted from his murderous curse? I think both Ajani and Garruk can relate in some way now, and whether or not Garruk still has his spark, the pain of Garruk Wildspeaker's past actions truly haunted him in the same way Ajani's actions are haunting him now. Garruk has had plenty of time to reflect about his past actions, and as a side, if he found and brought the Kenrith twins back home from Arcavios, that would be a nice resolution, too. Being cursed or controlled by a foreign power is never an easy thought to shake off, let alone something so gruesome as murder.

[@AjaniGoldmaneFFXIV]

@@Nobody-xe9fc that would be cool if that was the story!

[@RuenUsque]

Nahiri deciding all Planeswalkers makes some-kind of sense. She is/was an Old walker and was around during Urza's time. And vast majority of Urza's group were not good people. Perhaps they did good things, but very few were actually good people.

[@ryegg]

I mean, Sorin was her friend, asked for her help and then locked her away with Demons for hundreds of years. Nissa and Chandra released the Eldrazi. Nahiri isn’t wrong in her assessment and her PTSD makes it hard to not be wildly self reliant and defensive.

[@henryterhune8328]

Okay, my ultimate take on the problem with this. The mtg story trys to paint Nahiri as an antihero with some noble goals and some heinous tendancies (in her that dichotomy is very stark in her boros identity - white protection, red fury). The problem is that we have been shown Nahiri behaving heroically before, but she never actually gets to *be* a hero and have a win. If we look after her big villainous chapter on Innistrad, she shows up on Zendikar to calm the roils. She genuinely seems to want to restore the plane. Somehow, though, the story manages to twist itself simultaneously into both "Nahiri was right" (her plan to calm the roil is the one that ends up being used) and "Nahiri is the bad guy" (the worldsoul literally tells Nissa that Nissa needs to use Nahiri's plan, cause Nahiri sucks). The story then has her act petty and leave. The next time she shows up is on new Phyrexia. She again endangers herself heroically to be a powerful force to protect the multiverse (her rival Sorin is nowhere to be seen). That culminates with her deploying a huge heroic burst of energy - for a plan that fails. Oh, and then she gets turned into an evil thrall. Now we find her literally tearing herself apart in penance, and the story depowers her in a more humiliating way than everyone else - a ton of sparks just faded. Nahiri had hers and then it is lost because of her own fault. And then she turns homicidal. The story wants to give her dimensions, but she just never gets a win. She never has a chance to be the hero that she clearly sets out to be. The story also can't seem to get s compelling grip on what her flaw is. Fury, yes, but what got me about this story, is it literally cant even just pick one way that she screws things up with Ajani. First she is paranoid (makes sense, her breaking bad was caused by a horrific betrayal), then she is jealous (for some reason), then she is spiteful (which i would say is pretty different from beong vengeful as she was at first, but maybe that is just me). It seems like the story wanted to treat her as an interesting antihero, but instead it kicks her three times for every thumbs up.

[@rextyro192]

The entirety of Zendikar Rising felt like the story was bending itself backwards to make Nissa a hero and Nahiri a villain, when in reality Nahiri has done a lot more to keep Zendikar safe, whereas Nissa released the Eldrazi and got a Pat on the back and a “aww, you did your best honey”. I never thought I’d be one of the people saying that the story team can’t write… but damn, they’re really screwing over Nahiri by not knowing how to properly write her anymore.

[@QuietEco]

So happy to see people saying what I’ve been saying all this time. 😊

[@lenajohnson6179]

I think the reality now is that she's just completely insane paranoid delusional 'attack the next thing I randomly decide is the problem'... Her mentor locked her in a cage with demons for hundreds of years and she came out as psycopathic as someone who survived in a prison with Demons for hundreds of years would HAVE to be in order to have survived such a thing... and then just when she got a foothold on herself, she was turned into a sociopathic monster. I STILL mostly blame Sorin for this... but it's time someone just put the poor girl down like the rabid dog she's become...

[@Lardo137]

​​@@rextyro192 ONE did a genuinely good job of portraying Nahiri's complexities and competence because the author genuinely likes Nahiri as a character, which is why she can do insane feats like throw an entire Phrexian Colleseum nine miles into the air while resisting Phyresis and fighting off Norn's forces simultaneously. Yeah, she gets compleated, but that was on the assumption that Jace and Co. would blow up the Sylex as planned - and Nahiri got them exactly where they needed to be, despite everyone else's fuckups. Meanwhile, in this week's story, Nahiri gets herself impaled and loses her spark twice because she "miscalculated" how much rock she was using FROM THE GROUND SHE WAS STANDING ON making her fall into a hole of her own creation like some Looney Toons shit. And now she gets the flaw of losing 500 IQ points whenever she gets angry, when in SOI her patience and cunning is precisely why she's so dangerous when she's angry. She just can't ever get a break because someone at wotc fucking hates her ass.

[@TheAgainster]

Even worse is ajani. They want him to be a hero. But he literally just tried to force his beliefs onto nahiri. And then tried to murder her. He's still very much phyrexian

[@claudionosotti8812]

I don't really get ppl who complains nahiri is not a hero / good person after all she's been through. All she ever wanted was to protect her land, her plane and her world and she was betrayed by her friend and companion and that almost caused zendikar to be wiped out of existense, and when she confronted Sorin about it he yanked her into literal hell for centuries, she came out of it absolutely broken and the first thing she tried to do was a literal genocide (not a good sign of mental health tbf), now she tries to do the good thing by joining the gatewatch to protect zendikar from phyrexia and she gets compleated, bringing herself the apocalypse she tried to protect the plane from, when she wakes up she has memories of what she had done and to add insult to injury she's unable to make amend bc her powers are no longer there and she's desperately tapping into what's left of her only to find out she's basically doing nothing to help her home. It's sad, but I don't blame her for being broken, paranoid and blinded by rage, it would've been strange and out of character for her to just go yeah you know what I'm a good person now let's rebuild the multiverse together. A multiverse she never *really* cared about apart from zendikar itself. Also, about her spark and blades: in the story is clearly said her hands weren't twisted into blades, the swords were simply grafted onto her skin and encased her hands, she literally traces the scar left by them using her finger. Her spark was into the skyclave bc she was fused with it, so the skyclave acted like a "holder" for it and the halo purified her, just like Nissa and Ajani, basically the skyclave did the same thing karn did and took her spark out to be purified. I love Nahiri, I really wish someday we can get a redemption arc for her, but having her just become good all of a sudden here would've felt strange, she's at her breaking point and I can see her needing to let her rage go all out before rebuilding her character.

[@mattd7695]

I feel bad for Nahiri, she has gone through so much pain and inflicted pain on others in return. It's an unfortunate truth that victims often lash out at others when they can't process the pain they have felt. I know it's unlikely now that Nahiri will ever get a chance at redemption, but part of me hopes she gets a chance to reconcile with Nissa and a chance to heal. I've been where she is and fictional character or not, I think everyone has a chance to be better if they try.

[@U1TR4F0RCE]

I don't really keep the most track of stuff but if a being is able to extract a colour of mana from a person I do wonder what would happen with Nahiri since pretty much all of her messy stuff comes from her quest for revenge and the trauma that lead to and caused it so if she was pushed back to her center of white mana might she be at least slightly less murder happy?

[@nategraham6946]

I'm glad Ajani still has his spark and wants to undo the damage he did. Also good to have confirmation that their lost sparks can be held and regained.

[@solivagant2918]

Well, I finally have a new favourite character in MtG.

[@noone6812]

My girl just can't catch a break.

[@indrafides2648]

Soooo is it me or wasn't tezzeret supposed to exact his vengeance on elesh norn for her puppeteering and betrayal. Honelsty I love the lore channels that work so hard but God does the actual written lore just suck

[@cibor07]

Actual written lore is the lamest it has ever been. However, Tezzeret actually didn't wanted to work for that Revenge, only to escape as far as he could go. Will the writers undo this? Most likely, they can't never mantain anything.

[@indrafides2648]

@@cibor07 pretty sure he went off to prepare after telling the esper kid that craps about to hit the fan

[@DarkTider]

"Somehow, Nahiri survived"

[@Viktor47917]

Source of Nahiri's paranoia issue: goes back to her hatred for Sorin and her hatred towards other shit. She basically gave herself that feeling. Nahiri was epic long time ago and now she is a psychotic fool. Ah... I miss when she was smart and strong at her run with Innistrad back then. More badass and amazing. Now, she is weak and waste.

[@violeth2255]

She was trapped in a prison that functioned like a sensory deprivation tank most of the time, with her only source of stimulation for hundreds/thousands of years being the demons that she shared the prison with and eventually, for a relatively short period, a singular angel whom had attacked her immediately prior to Nahiri's imprisonment. That's not gonna be good for her mental stability.

[@Viktor47917]

@@violeth2255 exactly, and Emrakul might have done a little something too and she did not realize it.

[@kyleellis1825]

I liked her the most when she was the unnamed lithomancer and we had no card for her.

[@ELFudgeOreos]

Thanks for the analysis at the end. Nahiri's pettiness and unwillingness to accept her role in anything is crazy

[@hermeticserpent8045]

Man, this new story sucks. How the fuck does Nahiri peel off scraps of phyrexian plating when her arms are fucking swords. I give up on this mess. At least Chandra and Nissa can scissor each other travelling through the blind eternities.

[@zebrasmith]

It's only been 1 day and im seeing so many people making Nahiri the next bad guy again. Why? Because she loves her plane and wants to protect it? How is she not right? the entire MTG story line is because Planeswalkers wont stop fucking around, causing problems, dragging their across the multiverse then they act like theyre the only ones who can clean up the mess when it's their kind causing the problems in the first place. How about everyone sticks to their own plane's problems? if you cant figure it out, sucks to suck. stay off zendikar. Where we are in the story is 100% Planeswalkers fault

[@pcaetano93]

Late lore feels like the blind eternities: full of holes

[@shadowwolf12351]

In a weird way I kinda feel bad for Nahiri. Maybe because she had potential to actually be better? But once again we are seeing consequences play out and I do like the fact that planeswalkers are becoming rare also first

[@airistal]

She's going to forbid any native planeswalker from coming home? Kiora is going to be a big pain in her side.

[@mourn9025]

Nahiri is still one of my favorites. In story she is so strong. Yet, in cards nothing are better than meh. It makes sense she gets painted as the antihero because at this point there aren’t any real baddies to cause issues. Even in previous stories it’s mentions that a handful of PWs couldn’t beat her. Alluding to the amount of power she posses but we never really see.

[@bfeldz1023]

Nahiri really stuck a stick in the spokes of her own bike and then blamed it on the other planeswalkers.

[@connormiller9553]

ITS BEEN TWO WEEKS!!!! WE NEED MORE!!!

[@Gogito4]

Nahiri always seems to be draw the worst possible conclusions from every piece of information she is given. It's getting kind of tiring.

[@frankmorris4603]

There are actual people in the real world that act exactly like that and they are tiring to be around. She is one of those people.

[@silencia08]

Nahiri should send the Pinkertons to get her Spark back.

[@randomdudefromdainternet9962]

Thanks for the lore vidss ❤❤

[@bryankoenig7954]

Unfortunately I've started to see a hole and that is Sets are coming out so fast that the luster of epic storyline doesn't sit around long enough and it loses its feeling of intensity Because you know in a couple of weeks a new story will be out and The most powerful thing of movies and great books is rereading and speculating and building characters in our hearts and what they mean to us and then when something comes out That changes the canon that you know it becomes epic But everything in this universe has now been short lived and under Developed

[@marcelphillip1239]

Sorin have been avenged...

[@thrud159]

Could have been really badass to see her missing arms or having more scars. The fact that she looks almost unharmed, but did not need any outside assistance to survive compleation just seems cheap.

[@TheeMasterSword]

Nahiri and Lukka are the two most L walkers all time.

[@laurentrobitaille2204]

Lamewalkers

[@totz_the_plaid9625]

Worse than Tibalt? ...or Dyfed?

[@TheeMasterSword]

I mean in terms of the short end of the stick and character work. Not like their cards or actual losses in the story. Tibalt got a whole plane to be the bad guy on in Kaldheim and I rather like him. But when I think of lame loser walkers outside of cards, Nahiri tops my list for sure.

[@TheeMasterSword]

Nahiri is like a central figure in half a dozen stories. Eldrazi, Sorin, War, return to Zendikar and every time she's just so insufferable and 2 dimensional. Only on Phyrexia does she really develop, only for her to regress here.

[@TheeMasterSword]

You could argue Tibal is similar tho. Chaotic Evil to be chaotic evil, but idk. It clicks for me with him.

[@pelusoft]

Oh well. So she went back to psycho 🤷🏻. In her defense, she was trapped in the hellvault hundreds of years. We can asume her mind was beyond healing.

[@frankmorris4603]

at this point they should have just killed her off then like they did tibalt

[@brentdye1504]

Nahiri become more dangerous and sworn revenge on the planeswalkers and everyone who wrong her. Oh man she was beyond redemption.

[@pascalsimioli6777]

She's always trying to take revenge on someone lol this is just another Monday to her. So freaking creatively bankrupt.

[@TheAgainster]

Ajani tried to force his beliefs on her. And then legit attacked her. She's the victim here

[@ReAnimatedStoner]

Honestly I love garruk just the fact he hunted Planeswalker for a challenge, though don't know how well nahiri will be at it considering she doesn't have her spark. I got to thinking about it what if the others that lost they're spark had somehow got put into the hedrons since we did hear about Elish seeing the bigger ones on zendikar and liking them. I dunno just a thought

[@Iamkiwikun]

I'd like to think that Nahiri was able to heal with just halo since she was completed for a much shorter period of time than Ajani or Nissa. Time will tell when we explore Vraska and Jace.

[@thejackscraft3472]

wasn't she compleated not that long after Nissa? since Nissa was compleated roughly at the start of the story that Nahiri was (unless I'm completely forgetting the timeline), I would assume that there was at most a couple days between them.

[@Iamkiwikun]

@@thejackscraft3472 I think you're accurate, but who knows. Maybe that difference was all that's needed. Nissa's completion is somewhat more vague as she was re-introduced into the story already fully compleated. We watched Nahiri's decent over the course of the story. Maybe there's a personality element to it as well, since Nahiri is so stubborn in her ways.

[@camillion166]

And here I was hoping for a Nahiri redemption Arc. Nope, we get irrationally paranoid psycho Nahiri. Like I get her beef with Sorin, but wtf was that?

[@frankmorris4603]

her projecting her own misdeeds onto other planeswalkers. She damn near destroyed planes before she was even compleated.

[@TheAgainster]

She had ajani force his beliefs on her. And then try to attack her. She's the victim.

[@ryusei4k621]

This feels like war of the spark story

[@rennac3152]

After stories aren’t really their expertise

[@dinklebob1]

Nahiri serving as a dire warning of the dangers of untreated mental illness.

[@0whatman]

when you think wizards cant write nahiri even worse they surprise you lmao

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

Well, some of us in the comments to the previous video were calling Nissa the worst, but WotC prompty reminded us that it could we worse, it could be Nahiri. Maybe there's some wrong in Zendikar's air, perhaps it's the Eldrazi... Nahiri could have gone out with a noble sacrifice while fighting Phyrexians despite her imminent completion, but no, she had to survive thanks to plot armour just to keep being the same hateful and self-centered individual she used to be, with her character arc basically being move one step forward and three steps backwards. But maybe that's what Wo(ke)tC creative team sees as the archetype of a modern strong empowered woman: "what about me, me, me? everything bad is always everyone else's fault!"

[@coopervaughter1440]

Good for Nahiri but WHERE IS Tezzy?!

[@Smilkma]

MORE IMPORTANTLY WHERES GISHATH

[@q-tip9962]

It seems like Nahiri's biggest problem with her character is that she never learns to empathize with other characters. I dont have an issue with her being wrathful, but the problem is that she has the impulsiveness of red and the stubbornness of white. But when Ajani came to find her ahe assumed that he was there to kill her, she never thought about how the heroic leonid could also be devastated by the damage he caused and the blood he had spilled.

[@catarmor4596]

I think this might be setting Nahiri up to be part of an Anti-Gatewatch

[@mega2009man]

I'm literally crying for Ajani, he needs someone, but he just can't turn to those he hurt. His guilt is really tearing him apart. I just wanna hug him until he feels better 😢🤗 Nahiri should've just stayed in the dirt where she belongs. She's as bad as Lukka (wanting to do good) but her response is all about twisting everything to validate her extreme reactions. She's been irredeemable but I gave her points for self sacrifice. But undo that and undo her points. Now she's back to seeing herself "always in the right" and everyone else is wrong, blaming everyone for her problems

[@TheAgainster]

Ajani tried to force his beliefs on her and then tried to murder her... nahiri was right the entire time. Ajani is still very much a phyrexian in ideals

[@mega2009man]

​​@@TheAgainster Wow, every word of that was wrong. Careful with those mental gymnastics, you're sounding like her. What's next, you gonna defend her genocide on Innistrad? LoL goodluck Nahiri simp bot

[@lolbots686]

As nahiri sat down working on fixing some of the mess...another breeze. Ajani? No... something else...someone else. HIM. "...nahiri." In a instant,nahiris floating swords were pointed to his throat. "Sorin." The ancient vampire sighed as he did not move. "Ever as you have been i see. ...youve lost your spark?" "Just shut up. Why are you hear sorin?" "...i came to find you. Innistrad is a mess even i am unable to fix currently alone. But that said i came to you 1st since i wanted to check on zendikar." "Your lying. What,compelled to slaughter me? Just do it and kill me already. I deserve it for what ive done." "...i am not here for blood nahiri. I came because i am breaking. I came to see a friend. Is that so hard to believe?" "For you,absolutely. Why arent you digusted with me even? I...i..." "That creature in your skin was not you. You are right. Even if it was not you,the destruction was your power alone. But tell me. What did you do when things like this happen. To centurys ago when you,i and ugin locked the eldrazi. To years ago when you released emrakul on my home? To now. My dear it is clear you are not in the best state of mind. Centurys of living has began to break you. As it has begun so for me." Nahiris swords inched to sorins throat closer....but they stopped. "...your right...i hate it that your right...but what else can i do but protect zendikar from other walkers and more!?" "In that condition your unable to do anything. That much is certain. But at least let me help you. I owe you this much. However...do you mind if i borow those shards of that hedron?" Nahiri seemed puzzled. "For what?" "I had a promise to you nahiri. I intend to keep it now. But 1st...we need assistance. Will you help me...?" The lithomancer calmed herself....and nodded. "Ok. If it will save zendikar...im in sorin." "Good. Here...i think its time i make use of this gift i found from those angels..." Drawing his sword and cutting his hand,white mana flowed from his sword and through his blood. The hedron shards colelece. "Where are you my champion of order...i have failed you once. I have failed you twice. Child of innistrad...rise from the ashes pure and reborn...my angel...**hear me. Rise now and be reborn from my blood,that which was broken and my grief and remorse. Please...help us...** She who was broken was now pure. Nahiri was shocked. "I thought you didnt have that kind of power..." "I dont. I took this halo. It is the angel stuff that composes your friend tirels being. And that of other angels. Through my blood,my power and what remains...that which has been lost is born anew." Avacyn was shocked...she was alive again...by the hand of the maker... "I..." "Later my angel. For now however...we must rebuild in the aftermath. An oath remade." Nahiri hesitantly nodded. "For zendikar. For the planes i helped ruin. We will rebuild from the aftermath." Spoke the lithomancer,resolute and renewed in resolve.

[@Bagmon]

Please tell me this is real

[@lolbots686]

@@Bagmon sadly unlikely if something similar happened. This is the beginning of my take on march of the machines aftermath since while its ok,it could actually do better. Hence in this fanfic,a broken sorin finds nahiri alone and sparkless amidst the chaos of zendikar,and in a short talk where sorin muses that centurys of living inmortal has broken nahiri to this point as it has for him as well Using halo,the broken hedron that contained nahiris spark and his own blood and power,sorin did what he could not previously. From the spark of the broken,the stone of the vengeful,the blood of the mournful and the vampires plea for help,avacyn,she who was broken was now reborn in this instance as the 3 work together to rebuild zendikar and other nearby planes in the aftermath

[@PancakeBreakfast]

How is it that the invading Phyrexians all stopped working when New Phyrexia was phased out.. But the former planeswalkers are all getting up and walking around like it was nothing??? It makes no sense. And I'm still of the mind that the Phyrexians might have an encore. But for now we have to assume they're all gone. And I'm getting the feeling all this probably won't be explained very well. I'm just hoping that they didn't build this situation up for years only to have the Phyrexians supply the universe with a fat juicy nothing burger.

[@ninjaman0003]

I could just be weird in that I enjoyed this bit of lore. Yes, things are still vague about the new “rupturing” of planeswalkers, but it’s not the worst that could be done yet. There is time for more details to come out and explain things. I will give the bit about nahiri living because of halo was a bit weird. The sword arms going away could be explained in phyrexian nahiri covered her hands in steel blades and she used her lithomancy to rip off the blades (that’s gotta be painful though). And I liked how they a kept nahiri consistent with being a stupid, raging moron. Not exactly writing I like, but it’s better than being flip floping *cough* “lukka *cough*. I found it poetic that nahiri lost her chance at her spark because she couldn’t move passed how others had wronged her. She was starting to figure out where at least some of the blame lies and then threw it in the bin with her spark.

[@bonaface]

it isn't vague, that would imply they took some effort to be mysterious. it is sloppy and poorly written...the effect of little effort. Kind of like the amount of work they put into 60-card constructed formats...NONE.

[@ninjaman0003]

@@bonaface but that definition of vague doesn’t really hold up to scrutiny. When Star Wars came out and Luke was trained in the force, there were vague ideas and concepts but nothing concrete. “Use your feelings”? It’s a nice phrase but doesn’t mean anything. Me punching a person is using my feelings. Vagueness isn’t one dimensional. There is also the case of over explaining the mystical which Star Wars also did with midichlorians. Story telling isn’t simple to do. If it was, Hollywood certainly wouldn’t have so little new ideas.

[@Nunubotz2]

@@ninjaman0003 i agree i will never understand why people defend nahiri so much, is like she does something evil and stupid, pays for that and people is like buuuhhh pooor nahiri lmao.

[@ninjaman0003]

@@Nunubotz2 I understand why. It’s cause the character just resonated with them in some way. I have the same thing for scratchman Apoo with one piece. I loved his debut but the character has been a bit of a let down for me since he was reintroduced to the one piece series. Some things can’t really be explained by logic.

[@Darkddmaster]

I'm kinda getting tired of 'Nahiri's the good guy!' Then 'No wait, bad guy' then next set 'Yay Nahiri's good' and finally 'No wait, never mind, bad' and I feel like they're setting her up to be the next big bad and it is tiring. The worst part for me is that the idea of a group of people coming together that blames Planeswalkers and oppose them is a really interesting idea! But having it tied to Nahiri is just 'here we go again...'

[@wqweqwet1804]

Dude her mind is broken. She is literally insane.

[@Darkddmaster]

@@wqweqwet1804 I get that, I'm not saying she wouldn't be insane, just bouncing her around from a story is kinda boring at this point. It feels like they just don't know what they want to do with her, rather than her having a rough background.

[@Bagmon]

Weren’t the sword hands something she could reform with her lithomancy? Like do what the Liquid Terminator did and reform it into whatever she wanted? Hands, swords, a plate and chopsticks?

[@StarkosiTV]

What is that music you use? It’s really good.

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

To be honest yeah i think it is fair for Nahiri to hate plainswalkers after all most of the threats were directly because of them even if they did not have ill intent as Phyrexia would never have risen if not for that one showing Yogmoth realities

[@jasonkorf7700]

While I have some issues with her decompleating herself. I do like that they are turning her into a full on villain. Considering her past and whom she seems to be, it makes sense that she would blame planeswalkers for what happened to Zendikar. This is a Kor woman who tried to commit genocide to Innistrad, because she blamed Sorrin for the Eldrazi getting loose and devastating Zendikar. Granted Sorin threw her it the helvault, but just because you have issue with one being doesn't excuse from trying to commit genocide.

[@reklaw017h5]

True it doesn't excuse genocide, but the planeswalkers are the reason why Zediker is so f'ed up. Like Ugin and Sorin quite literally used her plane to attract the eldrazi and trap them on her plane even though she disagreed. Then when she attacks Sorin he puts her in the hellvault and is unable to help her own plane due to Ugin's and Sorins idiotic plan. It's understandable for her to want to kill planeswalkers when all they do is either stab her in the back or prove to her they cant be trusted. Plus, her revenge was kinda reasonable considering her enitre plane was almost wiped out, like I'd be pretty peeved too.

[@Desiremademanifest]

I would not say Nahiri is the new Lukka. At least with Nahiri, there's a method to her madness where she always has to be the hero in her own personal story saving Zendikar from threats real or perceived. Lukka, on the other hand, was just the latest victim in the trope that all red/green guys look at a REALLY BAD idea and go "what could possibly go wrong?", and Lukka, by far, had that moment a LOT compared to his predecessors (Domri and Xenagos).

[@Nobody-xe9fc]

Kinda funny how Arlinn is the only good one lol

[@Desiremademanifest]

@@Nobody-xe9fc I think it's because that, as a werewolf, she has a better divide between rational thinking and irrational impulse.

[@raydelmartinez2905]

Poor Nahiri, she is all sorts of crazy now.

[@tychobrandsma2929]

Damn, i was either hoping for her to die and rest or to redeem herself, but ig she will go villian mode again

[@TheAgainster]

Nahiri is the victim. Ajani is the villain

[@brotquel1592]

While the part about her ripping the phyrexian metal out of her body is pretty epic... I really don't like how they are treating Nahiri... making her bitter and go into retirment was one thing, but immediately made her flip to PW killer is just too much, especially as a consequence of Ajani looking out for her and offering his help. I think this chapter have really done her dirt...

[@AetherHub]

It basically confirmed. Yeah she’s a villain for good

[@frankmorris4603]

she been bitter, she tried to pick a fight with sorin and got locked in a hellvault for hundreds of years where he forgot about her, then gets compleated and blames Ajani for her recklessness. Last i checked it was her own reckless acts that got that oil stuck in the back of her neck. As paranoid as she is when someone tells you how serious a threat is you take it pretty serious but her nah. Now she projecting and blaming Ajani for what she did as a phyrexian. What about what she did before she was a phyrexian, like how she almost killed zendikar but nissa stopped her, or how she tried to destroy innastrad intentionally.

[@brotquel1592]

@@frankmorris4603 to be fair: -she faced Sorin because he didn't intervene when the hedron started failing and when she came looking for help he sealed her in the Helvault -she tried to destroy Innistrad out of revenge after seeing how Sorin didn't give a damn and let Zendikar being devastated by the Eldrazi -she got infected while protecting others by a sort of phyrexian "sandstorm" The only one whom you can point your finger at for compleating themselves out of sheer recklessness and idiocy is Lukka.

[@juliahenriques210]

@@brotquel1592 to be fair: - Sorin didn't intervene because the call never reached him. Even so, he gave it a try when he knew of it, but Bolas used Tezzeret (and indirectly Nissa) to prevent it. - She tried to destroy Innistrad out of revenge after seeing how Sorin didn't show up and let Zendikar being devastated by the Eldrazi. She's a violent untreated case of borderline personality desorder (if you've ever seen one of those, you'll relate and actually feel sorry for her). To her the world is hell and everything is out to harm her and whatever she loves. Her cup is always a-third-empty. The best thing that can happen to her now is "intervention", but the only ones who can do it (who have enough in common with her and who are powerful enough to not just be murdered on sight) are Nissa, Jace, Sorin, and Ugin, and all of them have more pressing things to take care of at the moment.

[@brotquel1592]

@@juliahenriques210 I never interacted with someone with BPD, depression yes, but never BPD. Thanks for clearing that up.

[@Tru3kisame]

Waiting for Jace to pop up somewhere....maybe Vraska

[@CAVETROLLTRON]

Nahiri is just a bad person. That is her character ark. Truly stunning work Wizards.

[@frankmorris4603]

not every character who was once good stays good. They are showing how trauma and life experiences can damage a person for good. She is one of those characters

[@robertmcpherson138]

Wow... so Nahiri gets Deus Ex Machina'd for... this? FFS. I guess it doesn't help that some write her as an anti-hero, some as a villain, some struggling for redemption, and some just a complete wackjob.

[@AetherHub]

It’s the new Lukka problem. They can’t write her consistently so her stories look.. basically like a new character is featured each time.

[@Planeswalker-Pt]

My theory is all the og Lorwyn walkers kept their sparks.

[@jebron319]

god she is the queen of blaming everyone else

[@andrewbarron6303]

I feel like they are going to start making her hunt other planes walkers just like they did with Garruk. Maybe they will have the two of them meet up and start hunting walkers.

[@AetherHub]

Garruk was cured of his “madness”. Nahiri is the new cursed Garruk

[@airistal]

She would rather kill him. He was only like that when under the curse but that has been cured and he is devoted to the planeswalker that cured him.

[@TheAgainster]

Y'all are idiots. She's a recluse. Not a murderer. Even in this story, she acted in defense because ajani legit tried to force his beliefs on her and then attacked her. She's the victim and all Y'all are saying she's in the wrong. Lion boy is. He's still very much phyrexian in ideals!

[@Nobody-xe9fc]

Hey guys, funny thought...what if the Planar Bridge came back?

[@kuragaraus]

yeah this treatment of Nahiri is rough

[@the2ndNaruto]

Nahiri the Great Deflector

[@jordantaylor4390]

She could control metal, she could turn her sword hands into regular hands

[@AetherHub]

But wouldn’t they still be metal??

[@pascalsimioli6777]

So the phyrexians just give her metal hands knowing this full well? Also not everything that's shining and hard is metal, you know how many materials there are?

[@jjsanchez627]

So some kept their spark and most turn back into creatures. I hope they talk about sarkhan and narset so we can find out who was completed or they both were.

[@pyrophilliac]

Narset lost her spark her newest card is a creature

[@pyrophilliac]

I'm also fairly sure Sarkhan is also a creature now in red and blue

[@jjsanchez627]

@@pyrophilliac I know they are but in the story I believe didn't mention tarkir only by card. And by spoiler after seeing nissa and nahiri are creature I thought completed planeswalkers were save but lost their spark, but there's even kiora, ob nixilis, tyvar, and samut that lost their spark but weren't turn that we know of.

[@meltedlyricoriginal]

Sorin gang eating well. It seems like everytime Nahiri is given the chance to be a decent person and learn the lesson that things just happen, she instead goes Karen mode and demands to pick a fight out of spite.

[@TheAgainster]

Ajani attacked her. Not the other way round

[@Arigal3]

Somehow nahiri returned

[@comet8157]

Hate this arc for my favorite planeswalker :(

[@emilegarcia2369]

So she turned into Mordo at the end of Dr. Strange 1 haha

[@lenajohnson6179]

So like... Who all still have their sparks and who doesn't? Teferi says ONLY Ajani and Chandra kept theirs, but did Elspeth lose hers (and did she and Ajani ever have a 'omfg your alive!?' conversation? What about Lilianna? Seriously... we need like an official chart at this point now of which all Planeswalkers have been GIMPED.... I'm gonna be ticked off if they finally gave us the Angel Walker we kept asking for JUST to immediately dump her back to a legendary creature.... Poor Narset... Was Commander hurting so bad for a Narset Commander already?

[@dantenevans1541]

don’t know if you are but def don’t blame commander we already had a busted narset commander to play. we ain’t ask for this either 😭

[@mega2009man]

We only know 13 for sure (14 if Gold Forged Thopteryx is two way) Karn, Nissa, Nahiri, Calix, Ob Nixilis, Narset, Sarkhan, Teferi, Koth, Kiora, Samut, Tyvar, Huatli (and Saheeli)

[@D-Skotes]

I feel like I'm the only one who likes that Nahiri keeps falling back into the same issues. The unfortunate reality is that as much as some people want to change and have the opportunity to do so, past traumas can't always be healed and they drag you back to square one in an unending cycle of destruction both self and outward.

[@atk9989]

generally the best aspects of stories tends to be character development, seeing characters grow and correct or minimize their flaws to become better people than when they started as broken or became broken in some form. Nahiri doesn't get that, every other planeswalker from what i've seen gets some form of character development and Nahiri is always just rage.

[@D-Skotes]

@@atk9989 that makes sense I personally like when stories have some characters that don't change someone who always gets stuck in the same spot. I think having one of those characters to contrast the other is always a fascinating thing.

[@lenajohnson6179]

Thematically speaking, I sorta feel like if Nissa is ever gonna find any kind of peace... it's gonna need to be Sorin getting the f'k over himself and atoning for throwing her into a prison of demons for a hundred years because he was to disaffected and lazy to properly deal with his betrayals of her....... but I honestly don't think she's stable enough to ever be 'saved'.... she went into a helvault with no one but demons for company for much much to long... she came out of that about how you'd expect.

[@christopherb501]

@@D-Skotes It would work better if we saw someone _else_ suffering trauma that managed to work thru it, for contrast.

[@D-Skotes]

@@christopherb501 Liliana, Gideon, Viviane, Teferi, Elspeth, Ajani and most other Planeswalkers who have shower up enough times to have fleshed out stories have/had suffered immense trauma and still grew and changed from it.

[@Madgunner117]

Her becoming a non phyrexian is kinda cheap. It's making me think they'll do the same for Jace and Vraska

[@AjaniGoldmaneFFXIV]

takes like 5 people to cure 2 planeswalkers, nahiri just fucking rips off the metal and shes all hunky dory. Yea i agree.

[@frankmorris4603]

@@AjaniGoldmaneFFXIV I mean it sounds like subconsciously removed her own spark from her body

[@michaelsimao495]

My poor girl please help her she needs it

[@deimosmars3683]

So somehow with the phyrexians defeated, everyone is just uncompleated now? Just peel the metal off your body despite blood being replaced with glistening oil?

[@vexaris3428]

So is Nahiri just going to be Mordo and the end of Dr. Strange trying to hunt walkers?

[@reubenfromow4854]

“She had no idea how she survived” 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@seraph_rj5700]

When and how did ajani become incompleat? Im so confused

[@philippel.9086]

Damn Nahiri is detestable…

[@lewispatton6550]

Nahiri, makes me sad.

[@aj1218]

Sorin has entered the chat

[@FaerieScion]

It always feels like Nahiri gets the short end of the stick when it comes to WotC's writing team, same with a ton of other secondary planeswalkers. She's my favorite character conceptually but goddamnit they ruin my perception of her every goddamn set. This could've been an opportunity for her character to learn & grow, but nooooooo, WotC doesn't allow anything more one-dimensional than a string to set foot in their storytelling

[@voxkine9385]

I’m just waiting for “… and then, the phyrexian invasion was all a bad dream…” The one cool thing this story had going for it was the loss of these characters. Now it’s all just a cheap trick that made the entire story meaningless.

[@saltylich9207]

Nonplanswalker teferi is still gona cause problems in all formats, bet

[@dementiamaster2]

I think they were going for Halo healing her, but that is really lame and doesn't fit to former lore. It was told in former story it only slows down the process, not reverts.

[@michaeltaylor788]

I think its a combination of halo and her powers she tried to heal herself but turned the stone to flesh uncompleeting herself.

[@dementiamaster2]

@@michaeltaylor788 If that were the case, she could have done that on new phyrexia before she was turned. They had Halo and she had her planeswalker powers. The only way I see this happening, if she was completly under the oils mind controll already.

[@michaeltaylor788]

@@dementiamaster2 maybe it’s because she had a little vile of halo i think in her story and fight on her plane she was hit with a lot of halo she fell got badly hurt then healed herself and the oil stop working after Norn died prevented the oil from fighting back and reinfecting her.

[@dementiamaster2]

@@michaeltaylor788 Maybe, but if that is the case, it still feeds on the lazy explanation they give for all the phyrexians go into coma. The whole Norn did control all the oil is messy to begin with.

[@DarkWingDragonShadow]

What happen to my boy jace

[@resy-t9382]

I am curious how would Nahiri and Garruk interract w/ each other idk how they would meet but still.

[@frankmorris4603]

She would try to kill him and he would end up killing her

[@CosmicErrata]

I pity her 😢

[@yughioh616]

Kaloka si Nihiri! anu na teh! G na G?! 😢😮😅

[@laszloszombati7966]

Well, she was right. Planeswalkers rarely did more good than bad. If Karn took a shower beforr going to Mirrodon this all would not have happened.

[@bluefett1784]

Nahiri is Bae. If killing planeswalkers is the way, then so be it. Lol

[@AliceStClair-lq3zp]

Bruh.. how is she uncompleated..

[@Nunubotz2]

I will never understand why so much people defend nahiri, i guess is because she is hot? She is as bad as lukka or domri but always i read coments of how she is right in any form, this destiny wizzards gave her is what she deserves, in the end is her way of thinking believing herself some kind of avenger that get her in this kinds of situation.

[@kennethcunningham2572]

Wotc just hates anyone who was a r/w planeswalker, ow we don't even have one.