AFL 'Journalism' Is a JOKE

[@jimmyriddle5246]

"anonymous sources have told me". If that didn't work for me at school, why the hell are these clowns allowed to get away with it ?

[@boundaryrider]

You my friend win my comment of the day. Hahaha so bloody true

[@jimmyriddle5246]

@@boundaryrider it frustrates the hell outta me. Just like Wilson with the " it's my understanding" crap

[@tubester4567]

@@boundaryrider Can you do a story about what happened between Tom Morris and Beveridge/Bulldogs?

[@jackohalloran6659]

There are shield laws that allow journalists to protect their sources, kind of like doctor-patient confidentiality

[@linny_456]

Sources should be anonymous, otherwise they won't be sources for very long.

[@terrya8989]

Dusty handles these flogs the best.

[@aidanthomas2510]

In other words, not at all.

[@lunch2102]

To be fair, Caros always put a positive spin on dusty

[@zavierarmani9986]

@@lunch2102she has him painted on her ceiling like the Sistine Chapel

[@lunch2102]

@@zavierarmani9986 for those cold, lonely nights

[@zavierarmani9986]

@@lunch2102 😂😂💀

[@reubs91]

This Is Australian media in a nutshell

[@jamesdavidson7335]

I worked in it, was a freelance copywriter also and threw it in because I didn't wish to write lies that benefit people at he behest of others.

[@mjames4709]

McClure is the main Clown in the AFL Circus. Absolute flog.

[@re_roar]

We're living in a world where Kane Cornes isn't even close to the worst AFL journalist out there... disgusting.

[@bas4903]

Not sure if he would even call himself a journalist

[@cim888]

Nah this guy is close for sure.. Wanker material

[@dansharp2860]

There's one person you left out who links all of these journos and that's Craig Hutchison. The original footy journo flog who now owns a massive chunk of the footy media landscape. They all work for Croc Media who produce that grubby Footy Classified and own SEN

[@TheJudge-o7]

Hutcho has tried to buy everything but he’s close to going belly up

[@dashman13]

SEN has turned to absolute crap since he bought it and added a million ads. He is purely money driven and it's why quality has nose dived.

[@dansharp2860]

@@TheJudge-o7 that’s a real shame

[@TheJudge-o7]

@@dansharp2860 I’m losing plenty of sleep over it too mate.

[@shannonpincombe8485]

Craig is a purile human being. He created insane stories by just asking dumb questions to other journos on panels like on Footy Classified. I have lost count of the number of ridiculous questions he has asked to try and get reactions or throw an insane idea out into the footy clickosphere to see if it gets some traction. Hutchie is a tosspot. His running of the AFL Footy Record has meant it now has more ads than anything else. Complete BS.

[@patkelly6349]

Tom Morris and mclure are absolute flogs

[@matthewnorman9803]

Wasn’t Tom Morris the guy made a weird comment to Luke beveridge

[@patkelly6349]

@@matthewnorman9803 yea and got the arse from fox for saying something about a bird. Then he gets picked up by 9.

[@matthewnorman9803]

@@patkelly6349 I think he did it purposely to get out of fox, he hasn't done it since

[@patkelly6349]

@@matthewnorman9803 ok interesting

[@richardbehan8118]

That's offensive to flogs

[@taxads7791]

Love how Caro is all up in arms about the issues she selectively chooses, but it all depends on the clubs, when the same or worse things occur at a club she protects, she's all silent

[@dama301]

I'm not even a fan of North but her vendetta against them and Brayshaw was ridiculous

[@JacquiZC]

It's good to hear someone publishing what I and many others have seen in AFL journalism. It's time for there to be a code of conduct for reporting on footy and footballers.

[@Shungago123]

There’s 3 things that piss me off so much about journos. First is how bias they can be. I’ll never forget when Caroline Wilson said that Luke bevridge had mental health issues because he decided to grow his moustache out, or how Kane Cornes never criticises Ken Hinkley. The 2nd thing is how quickly they dick ride and hop off on players and coaches. When Geelong were 7-0 everyone in the media was saying “Chris Scott is by far the best coach in the afl it’s not even close” all of a sudden “nah mate time for a rebuild” “Tom Stewart is the best Backmen in the game” 2 months later “Tom Stewart can’t shake a tag” like come on man I bet people were saying they amartey is the next tony lockett cause he kicked 9 in a game and cause he plays for Sydney. Lastly the way that people in media act like players can’t make mistakes and have mishaps outside of footy but people like Tom Morrison and Wayne Carey and even BT can get away with abuse and misconduct is crazy and Caro,Sam McClure and a lot more making the most outlandish lies and claims and not getting into any trouble for it is bullshit the people in the media should be held accountable too when they do stuff like that because it affects players livelihoods outside of footy

[@patkelly6349]

You are spot on.

[@eurixer]

What has BT done outside footy that classifies as abuse or misconduct?

[@Shungago123]

@@eurixer inappropriate comments live on air. The one off the top of my head that can I remember now is when he called harry taylor a pufta live on air cause harry taylor did the royal hand wave. He nearly lost his job with channel seven 7 cause of it

[@ducky36F]

These clowns think we forget, we don’t.

[@dhenderson1810]

The way Caro defended Tom Morris after he outed a colleague, yet if a player did that, she would condemn them, all because Tom is a friend and been to her house for dinner. She also condemned wives wanting to join husbands in the bubble during COVID, but she went overseas to be with her daughter during COVID.

[@simoneddy1174]

The Grub squad have been taking a dump on AFL journalism for years

[@karmic-fleas]

To expose C Wilson you need a 10 part doco series

[@natextreme_]

The fact that Tom Morris gets any attention is a disgrace...

[@riversonthemoon]

It's not tinfoil hat to say that agents put out rumours to pump up their player's value. That's called forward craft.

[@jb6668]

From their perspective the beauty of AFLMedia in the Internet age where churn is king. Is that they can give their stupid hot takes, safe in the knowledge that there is zero accountability or call backs on what they say. I don't think it's an accident that so many of the click bait journo's/talking heads like Kane Cornes have graduated from or are associated with the Craig Hutchison SEN school of bottom feeding journalism.

[@ronthornton3466]

I cannot believe people actually listen or read anyone in the media.

[@geoffreypayne6867]

Great video...the other thing they do is the retrospective credit....they say they broke a story after it happens...Wilson is an habitual offender in this space.

[@ducky36F]

You said it right. All journalism is about these days is about getting people angry for “engagement”

[@Marioman10100]

First 10 minute viewer gang! Edit: Great video. These journos should be called out. Calling out players for the equivalent of what they’re having for breakfast and how that’s wrong when no-one calls them out for things like allegations of sexual harassment and such. Bit disgusting honestly

[@timbd87]

If Harley Reid ever moves back to Victoria, Sam Mclure will then say 'there i told you so" even if its in 8 years time

[@dhenderson1810]

To be fair, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[@FlashMeterRed]

It used to be that afl reporting was handed to the inexperienced journalists coming through as a stepping stone to better things. Now people get there and just wallow in the circle jerking filth.

[@davewilson3049]

They are a disgrace.....ambulance chasers....

[@AussieTVMusic]

The problem is there is only some many things you can talk about in a week and once you've talked about them all you have to tread into conspiracy and rumour territory. The McCarthy comment was just outrageous. She didn't even know Cam at all as a person.

[@boundaryrider]

Yeah that’s true. It’s hard to come with a story every day about the AFL if your not trying to stretch the truth as much as possible

[@pete89111]

Can't stand Damian Barrett for some reason, just something about him

[@thomaspidhirnyj7259]

4 eyes

[@dhenderson1810]

I think Abby Holmes does the best job. No "Gotcha" questions or stupid questions and she seems to be liked amongst the players.

[@ryanmitchell2602]

Tom Morris type people are the reason I left Melbourne. It’s filled with them.

[@arthurritis249]

This was a great video. The rush for clicks and to be “exclusive” trumps the integrity of the reporting. It’s why we have so many spelling and grammatical errors on our “news” sites. For the most part sport reporting and general commentary are just talking heads competing for the hottest take. It’s what the US and the UK have and it’s horrible. Tabloid journalism with overpaid people inserting themselves like they are the athletes themselves. I just want them to play footy and then I don’t care what they do for the other 6 days to be honest.

[@RogueAI1679]

This could blow up and actually bring attention to these horrible takes, and bring some accountability to those spouting them. These people are terrible for society, even if its just them writing sports articles.

[@SFTaYZa]

This is just all Australian media.

[@short600]

One thing I have noticed more and more is the manufactured news that goes around. Journos will just start writing articles like “there has been a lot of talk about xyz” when the people talking about xyz are other journalists or randos on Twitter, then they blow it up like it’s a massive story

[@trentriches7711]

This needs to be shared, then shared again and then maybe share a little more. You forgot to mention the Coaching harbingers of death David King and Kane Cornes. They should both start being part of the problem and start being the part of solution and start Coaching - don’t believe either has the balls (fear of contact is different to the fear of mentally failing).

[@wayneperry7413]

It wasn’t even the club as such asking about Dangerfield, it was one club official just asking a general question of “whether you would ever consider coming back to Adelaide?” And was promptly told by Dangerfield - absolutely not, end of story really or it should have been

[@MrRobboS]

Some good stuff. Disagree with your joining the dots about tom morris and CO. Its pretty widely known what claytons problem is and i think Toms reporting was fair and in the public interest. Sad reality is the media seems to do very little investagative work and just publishes what ever managers and administrators pass to them with out any real scrutiny. This year has been so chock full of occasions where a player like charlie cameron, bobby hill, elliot yeo gets flouted in the media as considering big offers only to resign at their club within weeks.

[@danrandlehandle]

I totally agree. But I’d be lying if I didn’t say that the fallout of these terrible calls by journalists is hilarious with people calling them out

[@Anfa18]

This isn't just AFL journalism, this is all journalism. If a random person has a drug test at work and fails, you're immediately fired. However in the AFL this is not the case. Clubs go out of their way to protect players from taking tests let alone revealing players who have failed tests. Clubs and the AFL should be held to at least the same standard as a random workplace and should be held to account for protecting known illegal activity of players (including positive drug tests).

[@dhenderson1810]

There are druggies in the media, medicine, politics , the law and almost every profession. Why don't the media report on that too, instead of singling out the AFL as if they are the only ones doing it? I bet your industry has a drug problem too.

[@andrewkerr5296]

Most jobs don't Drug test mate

[@Samfoote]

Nah mate. Clayton was definitely on the table….

[@jackstill4710]

Thanks for doing this video.... the state of most Jounalism is shocking and I dont believe most of what I see

[@savannawind]

Well it’s isn’t just afl journalism. Once I saw a temperature topology photos. With the colour red with the headline “insane weather this Christmas”. Turned out the red was 30 degrees and in Adelaide it’s normally about that temperature that time of year. The headline I was really “meh” at was “The wettest september in the last decade” wow every month we are going to get some stupid weather headline huh…

[@craigmerritt8503]

I totally agree. ive a couple of bogan mates who get excited when they hear some of this crap. 'Not hurting anyone because im only talking about footy' mindset wont work for much longer.

[@ZeBoy85]

They had Lachie Neale and Christian Petracca on AFL 360 the other night and the line of questioning from Mark Robinson and Gerard Wheatley literally went like this…. How’s life Christian? What about the wife Christian? And the parents Christian? Lachie what about Christian? How’s the spleen Christian? The ribs Christian? Would you do the same thing Christian did Lachie? And then to back it up they had Logan Morris who won a rising star nomination and just that day signed an extension with the Lions and they were basically making fun of him didn’t even ask him about why he chose to sign again… didn’t even mention it.

[@lunch2102]

It's easy. Just ignore all the muppets

[@davidstephens4570]

Yes.Well said and researched and I agree with you 100%. Footy journo's have no relevance nor credibility any more.

[@TroyFry-rb2dr]

Thank you for calling out these guys. I feel they just say and do whatever agenda to get the most clicks. Often to the detriment of others. I feel they go unchecked and unpunished. It's ridiculous. So thank you

[@pablocastro563]

This was refreshing honest, great analysis Keep up the good work

[@bhriscannan2080]

Good content mate, keep grinding. We need more afl channels like you.

[@hotkeyafl]

You don't have to look too far

[@timmcgrath9708]

I’m confused re the Oliver example. Are you saying that Morris shouldn’t have reported that Oliver had a disciplinary meeting because reporting that may have impacted Oliver’s health?

[@jamesdavidson7335]

What does one expect with flogs the likes of Kane Cornes, Matthew Lloyd & Damien Barrett in prominence.

[@albertmiller2electricbooga897]

Honestly I feel bad for journos more than anything, my mum was a news reporter and camped outside of a singer's house while she was sick to get her editor the updates first, and I feel like the lower level journos are forced to feed into McClure and Newman and co's narratives, it has to be tiring working like that

[@mrclancymac1]

That opening sentence was literally everything that Caroline Wilson goes against

[@mikewazowski8368]

I think caro was saying that WA has a pretty big drug scene and that it might help to look at the environment players get exposed to. Like the early 2000's West Coke Eagles. But I could be giving her too much credit.

[@baabaabaa-El]

Their capt was a chemist!!!

[@cmadelaide56]

I haven’t even had time to watch this yet but already am giving it a thumbs up based solely on the title…

[@cmadelaide56]

There is one glaring error though - Sam McClure isn’t one of the more hated journos, he is THE MOST hated journo. And given CW is in this video too that’s saying plenty…

[@boundaryrider]

Video idea. Most hated journo Tierlist incoming 😂

[@dhenderson1810]

Firstly, journalists report FACTS, not opinion. You must be able to prove the story. Someone reporting from a war zone or in floods are doing good journalism. Journos just writing opinion pieces aren't.

[@langatang6425]

“Look I know they just won a premiership last year but I don’t see Craig McRae coaching in 2025” Caroline Wilson probably

[@StuTheDon17]

It isn't a conspiracy theory that agents contact journalists to spin some yarns about their player to stir the pot and get a better deal. It happens in the AFL. Just as it does in the NBA, NFL, soccer all around the world, etc. You'd be naive to think it wasn't happening here in Australia too.

[@pawloPawlopawlo]

Cornes, Wilson and McClure are all good reasons I don't consume any AFL media. Imagine if a player tweeted what Wilson said about McCarthy, it'd be reported on and they'd be a pariah for it. They hold everyone in the AFL to a standard they don't even meet 5% of.

[@allanbrown4802]

we rely on content providers like you now...keep it up

[@noknackers]

Ironic cause he has done a lot less research on this video than the journos he’s slamming

[@shannonpincombe8485]

Just a minute or so in(yes we all hate Sam McClure/Caro et al) but I'm sure you're not going to touch on Tony Armstrong and his PATHETIC attack on Hawthorn during the breaking news of the "Coaches and Indigenous Players' story (which is what I'll call it). Tony Armstrong diined out for weeks on this phrase "The Hawthorn Rascism Saga/Scandal". It was spewing from his lips non stop and I've not heard a retraction from Tony or the ABC since this fortnight or so of flat our BS reporting, especially since all avenues of legal investigation found no case to answer. He created a click bait 'GOLD' headline for the ABC and surfed his wave of indigenous anger like Hawthorn had personally attacked him. As it was finally discovered under police and legal questioning this entire claim was being made in an attempt to make some easy cash by flinging shit at the Hawthorn Football Club. Pure extortion. And the grubs who made these claims....quickly vanished like their so-called evidence. Tony Armstrong owes the Hawks, Clarko, Fagan and Burt a public apology for his antics and straight up dishonesty. The man is a shill and should be hated by all you like good honest journalism.

[@dhenderson1810]

You shouldn't have done a report about Indigenous players which threw your former premiership coach under the bus, then.

[@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax]

AFL journalism has been terrible for years. At least 20 and I don't take anything they say seriously, EVER.

[@matthewnorman9803]

@@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax what about Denis and Bruce at channel 7 I mean there the best so far

[@dhenderson1810]

​@@matthewnorman9803They classify more as commentators. It is media, but not reporting media. Bruce didn't break stories or editorise. That wasn't his job. He kept in his lane, and stuck to what he was good at.

[@GregHartland]

Well done on exposing these idiots You could throw Kain Cornes in the mix as well He announced on The Footy Show that Rowan Marshall wasn’t happy at StKilda (strangely enough, in the week prior to StKilda v Port) It started to grow some legs until Ross Lyon responded to a question about it saying that Rowan came to Ross during the week concerned that this rumour was being circulated. Yet Cornes isn’t brought to account at all Journalism standards have definitely declined in recent years

[@timmcgrath9708]

Every time the image goes to the still/powerpoint my audio gets laggy??

[@ralphgomeze8873]

The problem with AFL journalists is most of them are conflicted with working for a local Melb media outlet and then working in a national competition Show. And then some cannot be non partisan with the Melb club they follow or their family has a rich history. But if your on a National show and speak on Melb radio or print for a melb paper, how can you be objective when your Audience for you side gig is local and only for one state.

[@dhenderson1810]

One of the worst ones was Damian Barrett's agenda against Tom Boyd, causing Boyd to develop depression, and force him to quit the game, all because the Bulldogs paid him a million dollars. Remember, Boyd was a hero who played a big part in winning the Bulldogs their first flag in 55 years.

[@dhenderson1810]

I miss the days of "Palmer's Punchlines" with Scotty Palmer.

[@jerryfelitios8398]

McClure is a joke.

[@paulorocky]

It’s simple - there’s far too many reporters for what is essentially a local sport. At a time when media advertising and subscription revenues are tight, these self-styled journalists need to justify their positions, and so try to make big deals out of nothing or even make things up. The AFL loves it because it keeps them in the public’s attention.

[@cosmicdib4823]

1. I think the idea of the "club warchest" is funny, especially coming from crows or st kilda. 2. Hate on Abbey by that Kate person shall not be tolerated. Do you brave the cold almost every weekend? Do you have the guts to keep an eagle eye on players' wellness? Can you think of the right questions to ask players when you interview them? Don't think so. Guys, it's Abbey Appreciation Week. Get around it.

[@markmcdonald9260]

They rarely look at issues like umpiring, 5 day breaks for some teams whilst their opponent may get 6, instead it is said that the coaching is bad for a team playing bad one week and greate the next, sorry players are becoming tired and hardly get time to rest these days... .the joke of a draw which favors the wealthy clubs and has become seriously unfair. And how money now influences games.via telecasts.. I wonder if the AFL wants close games and umpiring to make them close because they want people to look at ads MORE....

[@dhenderson1810]

There might be some truth to what Caro says about WA. Let's take Ben Cousins. Under father son, Ben Cousins should have played for Geelong. But AFL manipulated the rules to get WCE a leg up, so he ended up at West Coast instead. West Coast had a drug culture at the time. There were underworld figures who were pushing, and Ben came to associate with them and fell into drug use. If he had gone to Geelong instead, their discipline and culture would have kept him on the straight and narrow and he might have not got a drug habit. He also never would have met the underworld figures in Perth.

[@Bangbongwong]

That’s a hilarious statement, Cousins father only played 67 games for Geelong and 240 for Perth. So he was eligible for both and he chose West Coast 😂. Also to suggest there isn’t drug problems at clubs in all states, it just gets swept under the rug.

[@dhenderson1810]

@@Bangbongwong You only needed to have played 50 games for a club for your son to play. It wasn't 100 until later.

[@nathand4500]

I'm shocked that Kane Cornes is not the biggest flog out there. Sam McClure, Caroline Wilson, Damian Barrett and Craig Hutchison make him look like a beacon of integrity.

[@aidanevans5658]

Don’t forget they are always trying to sack a coach For example this year it was Luke Beveridge, then Chris Fagan now Ken Hinkley (Which is sort of understandable considering he has achieved jack in 10+ years)

[@jacksongardiner2877]

Wow I blocked out Caro years ago and completely missed her saying that at the time, I’m seriously surprised she still has a job after that comment that’s genuinely shocking

[@paul-morgan]

Great content mate! New sub from this Blue bagger!

[@leithal1546]

Kane cornes “bulldogs are in the premiership conversation” a month later “Extending Bevo contract was a huge mistake by the club”

[@bradwconnors]

The reality is that every club is open to trading any player on their list. If a club came for say, Nick Daicos and offered the Pies 1/2 their best 23 players and offered to pay 1/2 of each players wage, they would take it. Therefore, I can factually say that Collingwood are open to trading Nick Daicos. This is how these journos operate.

[@ralphgomeze8873]

I would also take this further. We have people who work for Melb media in radio and print who vote for norm smith or All Australian. The teams are biased towards Melbourne players. Have a look at the All Australian the last few years. The A side has more Melbourne players and the B side has more non-Victorian players. It’s a joke. This year will be interesting because the top 4 has all non Victorian and the bottom 4 of the 8 has 2 non Victorian teams. But you watch the all Australian selection. To be elected of a non- Victorian team you have to really stand out ahead .

[@kevsmagpies1306]

For Oliver it’s the people who work in clubs talk to journalists with the port forward he shouldn’t have said anything on his wife’s podcast he should shut up and with trade talks they speak to clubs and player managers so that’s how they get their stories out can’t blame the journos blame the sources inside clubs

[@Jonesracing82]

On McClure, you could do an entire episode on his reporting re: Dusty.

[@MichaelJames1989]

I honestly don't know how they sleep at night. With some of the stuff they say about sports coaches etc it's shocking they should be banned.

[@Pete-te6ee]

American styled journalism has taken over all aspects of Australian media...its all full of shit ....

[@dhenderson1810]

I always had the suspicious that some footy journos actually hate footy and just want to be negative about it. I heard Rohan Conolly on the radio say the same thing, and he has actually worked with fellow footy journos who hate the game, but write about it because it brings more eyeballs and thus more money , than just about writing about anything else in Melbourne. Footy is no 1, so some journos write about it, despite loathing it.

[@SaintsTVPod]

That’s why we exist 😏

[@boundaryrider]

So true. Also The day the saints break the drought, Will be a great day for footy. Love the content u bring btw mate

[@paulweston285]

Caro " Don't shoot the messenger " = " I made this up "

[@baabaabaa-El]

Mate! How these 'journos' are still in work beats me!! 95% of guess work, and backpedaling when wrong... Speaks mobs when Caro and Cornes aren't considered the worst!

[@Ozvideo1959]

Yeah, we are ok with supposed "journalists" like Carro, who has NEVER had anything positive to say about the game, absolutely shredding players, clubs or the AFl, but, I'm sorry we can't disclose the weights of players. That's not politically correct.

[@Melbournelost66]

Someone here said Tom Morris and the Clown McClure are absolute flogs. Sam McClure is a total AFL talking head. He thinks he's bigger than the games greatest identities. When I see or hear McClure, I switch off. The guy is a NOBODY!

[@bigdeagz]

Thanks for the Credit Mate. Well Earned Sub!

[@boundaryrider]

No worries man. Keep up the good work

[@SugarEnthusiast]

The Barass trade "story" is so weird given Barass knocked back a monster deal from Sydney last year, citing wanting to keep his young family in Perth. Real clickbait stuff.

[@matthewnorman9803]

Abbey Holmes is doing a good job

[@dhenderson1810]

She looks pretty good too.

[@aenohesa9997]

Sam and Tom are the two biggest flogs in media.....

[@Panttz12]

Nailed it mate

[@short600]

One thing about Kane is he loves rage bait too but he is consistent with his rage bait takes

[@BDub2024]

You'd think people would see through what the journos do and how they twist the words around, but all I can say is that there are a lot of people with poor communication and comprehension skills. If you read an article about trade movements you can often tell with the way its written. What sort of language is used. Is it more flowery or factual. Anyone with half a brain would know Dangerfield isn't going to Adelaide or anywhere else. He will play another year or retire. Barrass's rumour was long winded last year, and had an element of truth. But at the same time, he was never going to leave Perth. People in Perth sort of knew it too.

[@dhenderson1810]

A lot of people refuse to think for themselves or do research, so just blindly believe anything they are told. Also, the media play on people's biases, prejudices and insecurities. They tickle ears and tell people what they want to hear, and repeat back people's own viewpoints, so the public won't call out journos who are repeating what they already think.

[@Dieselpower24]

How about Wilson using the show she is on for personal vendettas.

[@leaderofnoone9087]

I actually think they're decent journalist. The problem is their famous journalists. Which means they can't just focus on the story. So they make more mistakes. But that's most likely just my opinion.

[@jimwellsmore6172]

Spot. On.

[@Andy-o2f]

To be fair, Harley Reid did not want to go to Perth, but what else did anyone expect Harley to state when the Eagles then went and drafted him? Harley would leave Perth tomorrow if the door opened for him. It's a fact.

[@jgphantom6]

I think initially he probably didn't wanna be there, but you're pulling shit out of your ass if you think it's a fact that he'd leave at the first chance. West Coast have a pretty consistent history of bouncing back quickly and they're already putting together an alright squad. There's plenty of emerging talent there. They're still a ways off being even a finals team let alone a flag favourite, but any smart player/management team would be able to see the trends and stick where he'll get paid huge money and could be playing finals in the next 2 or 3 years. As opposed to going to some big Victorian club where he's not going to be paid the same because the teams full of superstars and will probably choke finals anyway.

[@Andy-o2f]

@@jgphantom6Why do eagles supporters believe that fabricated success projections are some cure for homesickness? It's bizarre stuff. Any amateur body language expert could see that Harley has already checked OUT! As for your call of 2-3 years, well, that is totally absurd! The eagles haven't even bottomed out yet!

[@jgphantom6]

@@Andy-o2f just for the record I absolutely despise West Coast. Can't stand them so this isn't some one eyed eagles fan saying this but a genuine hater. You're absolutely right that homesickness can be stronger than any need for success or money but it also often isn't. As for your body language claim. Unless you show me some from of qualification that shows you know a single thing about body language or provide evidence that someone who is qualified has said the same thing, your claims are baseless opinion and nothing more. Not everyone is dying to be in VIC mate and tbh I doubt he wanted to go to the roos either but it was gonna be one of them either way. Time will tell which of us is right so I'm not shitting on your opinion in and if itself, just your complete bs claim of objectivity that he would leave I. A heartbeat if he could when really you haven't got a clue

[@Andy-o2f]

@@jgphantom6 1) My body language claim is my own observation based upon many years in many different environments with people. 2) Harley is going to get paid wherever he goes, so that point is irrelevant. He's also just a simple country bloke, not some aspiring portfolio seeking magnate.. 3) It's a FACT that Harley did not want to move to Perth, so why you chose to reverse spin this is puzzling. 4) I personally KNOW that Harley approached Clarko about getting a trade done with WC, and I have no reason to believe that was because North were the logical choice with the draft capital to get the deal done. 5) I am positioned to have more of a "clue" than most. 6) Indeed, time will tell.....and the longer that time drags on, the more telling it will become. My own view is that Harley hasn't extended because he's still holding out that a deal could be done this year..........and there ARE suitors with the draft currency to influence West Coast.

[@JeffBurn-b1i]

Channel 9 Channel 9 🙄

[@dama301]

To be fair, ive heard those rumours about the WA footy lifestyle for quite a long time

[@andrewkerr5296]

You mean to tell me young Men earning big $$$ in their early 20s have fun with illicit Drugs? Wow I am shocked

[@BDub2024]

The frightening thing is that I have more respect of Caro out of those three. Though there is little doubt she makes stuff up.

[@JackJColl]

caro's ok

[@BDub2024]

@@JackJColl she's a good personality on tv. i think some players would be upset at her as she makes stuff up. Sam Mclure has become a trash journo and he's even looking a bit trashy generally so not sure what's up with him. Damo is weak.

[@petermcculloch4933]

She never discusses footy.Gossip is her thing.

[@dhenderson1810]

​@@petermcculloch4933 She could easily get a job at "Woman's Day" or "New Idea".

[@JohnWilson-sp6vc]

Caroline Wilson is the biggest grub of all the AFL journalists