After 20+ Years I Finally CRACKED The Secret Code In Binks Sake!

[@hoorahforsnakes]

Personally i think binks is joyboy's real name. Joy boy is obviously a title, not a name, and the song is seemingly written from the POV of someone on joyboy's crew, so them "sharing binks' sake around the world is joyboy going around the world and making bonds with eveeyone

[@shahsu1]

That would make sense, but we also have to understand that in one piece, sometimes there are 2 souls in a body, like Cavendish. So it could be possible that joyboy is Binks, and that he was able to become a dual sided coin, a moon and sun god.

[@JasperDStar]

What if Binks is the name of the Ancient Kingdom?

[@Botzyol]

Word for word

[@DanPurcell]

Ooo good idea, if the musician of the crew was the original author of the song that would make a whole lot of sense! I’m inclined to believe Joyboy’s full name is either Bartholomew Binks or Kozuki Binks, to tie in both the Kozuki clan and / or the Buccaneer clan whom I think Joyboy’s lineage stems from

[@lescobrandon8443]

@@shahsu1 Interesting. I'm more inclined to believe that Joy Boy is only Nika. Imu would be the moon God. That makes the most sense. The Sun God ruled for a time, only to be suppressed by the Moon God. Then the Moon God gets suppressed by the Sun God and the cycle starts again.

[@Schallas51]

"But if you just hold on the morning sun will rise" This fits so well with the fact that chapter 1 is Romance Dawn

[@another7674]

Oh my god.

[@Nek-oski]

Just like the Onigashima raid - They held on, and the sun has risen. Sun God Nika has returned.

[@nedvoider1727]

bc dawn is the start/end of onepiece we alr knew that dawn started and with the dawn it well end dawn sounds like don

[@Hakenai.]

and Bink's Sake is spelled in Japanese Binksu no Sake - which sounds like Pink Sun Osake/Sake, I think pink sun is rather related with sun set, so it might be the covenant/message to next generations, that the Sun will Dawn again, just hold on, keep on living and smiling - like Saul told to Robin - and good days eventually came upon You and here comes Luffy. 🙂

[@poljanroldan4390]

You can see Luffy pop out on the barrels. What they keep in the barrel? (Sake). You can see it on the start of thriller bark arc they see a barrel floating Zoro said it maybe a sake. Literally One Piece means Binks Sake.

[@Souvik-ge6tq]

What I think is the first line " binks no sake wo/ to do ie ni yuku yo" has a different meaning which is, " to bring down the injustice of someone whom i shared sake with". And from what doffy said in marineford " whoever wins the war, becomes Justice", i think that person who won the war 800 years ago was imu, and the will he passed down to his descendants to bring down Imu's injustice is called the " will of D"

[@anandsworld789]

Bro just got done piece done

[@anandsworld789]

He did it!

[@S4NSE]

it's like a war between passing the torch or one that never dies and reigns if that makes sense

[@josephdeep4794]

But black beard also have will of D

[@jonathanblankleaf]

“everyone will be bones” could also refer to everyone becoming pirates and raising jolly rogers

[@jonathanblankleaf]

Specifically, everyone is liberated by luffy and all become straw hats, the freest pirates in the world

[@qualdara4587]

true, cuz the world will sink...

[@BadDreadEats]

@@jonathanblankleaf since the world is sinking people have hypothesized that everyone will eventually have to technically be “pirates”

[@pokemaster5461]

With the official translation being "after all is said and done, you'll end up a skeleton" that could mean "after all the fighting is over, everyone will be a pirate" with everyone sailing under a Jolly Roger.

[@Chronoflation]

That, and that everyone will die eventually, so chill out, have fun, and share a glass of sake with me. I bet a giant bottle of sake is the One Piece. Maybe even an infinite supply of Sake. That'd be a treasure that I'm sure would make Roger laugh his ass off

[@AhmedHussain-ju6xd]

Oda just had to make a song for his story. He turned it to a foreshadowing machine and an absolute bop 💀🔥

[@Spinnach471]

136 and zero comments? Lemme fix that

[@Pesscado]

@@Spinnach471 oh

[@MZero-zf7io]

Or, its the other way round.

[@Orion_44]

@@MZero-zf7io a Tolkien move?

[@osonhouston]

​@@Orion_44Tolkien would have created three languages before writing the song.

[@yuuu_6944]

This may sound dumb, but in the manga panel at 4:36 with the motherflame theres the number 108 written above it. This was after a fragment was stolen, which was indirectly used to make the sea rise by 1 meter. So if you add the missing part or 1 meter to that number it comes out to 109 (meter) just like in the song. It could indicate that the full power of the motherflame would actually make the sea rise by 109 meters

[@ihavenothingforyou1946]

It works on paper, but why would they have changed the label? It would be proof that it was tampered with.

[@becac1655]

@@ihavenothingforyou1946 THIS! Beytrayal is important in the One Piece storyline. There have been always some sort of betrayal or interference. There is always some evidence left of the affection of the betrayal or the after effect of it. Like the whole in the sea and the rising of water. Or the needle of Flambee

[@ihavenothingforyou1946]

@becac1655 The issue is that the proof would be so silly. It would require York to share the same sensibility that the original Vegapunk has when it comes to his creations; that it has to be perfect. For the number to be off requires, I think, two possibilities: One) York, knowing they altered the Mother Flame, HAS to relabel it for science. Two) the other VP satellites noticed the Mother Flame was outputting slightly less power and feel compelled to relabel it for accuracy, but then they don't question why it reduced? I think York siphoning off some of the Mother Flane's power would make sense, but altering the label to match the result should set off so many alarms.

[@MechaSalesman]

The Mother Flame is atomic energy, literally the power of the sun. The text on the mother flame reactor is a JPN pun saying "Atomu", or essentially representing atomic energy. If Nika is a sun good with the ability to power ancient weapons, as were joy boy/luffy/ect ect. they literally posses the power to harness the sun, or atomic energy. The ancient kingdom was destroyed by 2 great weapons. It is a metaphor for the destruction of the 2 nukes dropped on Japan. Nuclear weapons were the product of scientists like Einstein, who Vegapunk is a fictional metaphor for. This doesn't tell us anything too new, but I think the parallels are strong and interesting, and serves as a way to tell us that unlocking the "power of the sun in the palm of their hands" was the start of the end of the ancient world.

[@GavinWardXC]

Beans

[@owenblount7334]

Luffy’s final technique: LEGALIZE NUCLEAR BOMBS

[@McBreadbro]

Oppenheimer created nuclear bombs

[@topazzsky]

Also nuclear technology was NOT given to us for war! It was given to us for an energy source only, so makes sense the reference to it's misuse, and the consequences, qnd Luffy has the chance to correct past errors and do it right!

[@TFGBENO]

@@McBreadbro Isaid the same in my head at first but they said the "result of scientist like" so he probably just means the ones trying to 'advance' the world, and may not know of oppenheimer. lots of ppl don't. That thought made me feel like vegapunk is only modeled after einstein, because he had more positive impact which is what vegapunk's character desires, positivity and peace, and/or because oppenheimer is a lot less known despite his work. It's not like Vegapunk didn't make weapons of war 🤷‍♂

[@garm352]

So - Joyboy awakened Nika fruit, awoke ancient weapons, tried to use one to fight tyranny, caused a catastrophe, went on a journey possibly to atone based on Zunesha’s whole thing, the Ancient Kingdom used Uranus against him and he called upon Poseidon to aid him in stopping it to avoid an exchange from Pluton and Uranus flooding the entire world, fell in battle, and then the Ancient Kingdom was targeted by the kingdoms that became the World Government, maybe led by the Moon God Fruit user, to both avenge Joyboy and stop them from using the Ancient Weapons ever again. The people of Wano took and hid Pluton and made the Poneglyphs, and were probably Allies of Joyboy, and Zunesha gave them control of his atonement for failing to aid Joyboy or taking part in the calamities involved in all this. The Ancient Kingdom, unwilling or unable to use Uranus anymore, were destroyed by Imu and the nascent WG who then took Uranus and hid it, then wiped out the history as best they could so no one would ever find and use the weapons again? And started up the isolation and mistreatment of the Fishmen out of fear of Poseidon, the only ‘weapon’ that had a Will of their own. That’s the thread I’ve picked up from this video at least.

[@farisbastian]

@@garm352 Thanks mate

[@xbl4ze]

@@farisbastian thank god, this video was just too long...

[@Dvdylol]

So that would mean the World Government is actually good then if they want to get rid of the ancient weapons so another sea rise doesn't happen again

[@skullknight630]

Maybe the 108 on the mother flame shows that the power of the mother flame only fuels the ancient weapon to 108m instead of 109m thus being imperfect in Vegapunk mind, wouldn't be the first time This would also conclude that the small charge York stole wasn't enough for 1 shot but rather enough for just around 1/100th of the ancient weapons power, leading to the 1m rise instead of the 109m rise

[@skullknight630]

Btw binks sake could also means binks sake as in for binks sake, perhaps binks was joyboys Shanks and he somehow died thus going to deliver binks sake, bringing his will to the world. Dreams through the night could then mean to deliver them through the dark times of him being gone but I'm not sure about that.

[@MR_amiko]

thats actually a fire theory, considering the fact that in vegapanks eyes the dragon fruit is a failure only because of its color, so a 1m difference in his eyes is also a failure.

[@vaughanos5350]

😮😮😮😮

[@niyiboots3641]

@@MR_amiko Oda Loves Numerology 108 is Higher Consciousness go to the last integer 1+8=9,0 is temporary place holder. 109, chapter 442 equals 10, completeness cyclical nature of life.

[@richdurbin6146]

Maybe the 108 was a meter reading rather than a label. With nothing stolen it would have read 109.

[@andragonm8932]

The “eventually we’ll all be bones” seems like a threat to Imu because reaffirming the inescapability of death does not affect you unless you’re ageless, then it’s someone saying “someone will come kill you eventually”.

[@kunalkumarsharma6859]

Mann I think can be it as it matches the theme of song

[@nomadsherm6666]

Hmmm that means joyboy knew imu personally and also found out she had the immortality surgery and even with the surgery you can't escape death....that's a real great breakdown.

[@ezekielarraez7045]

That’s what i was thinking. It was more of a direct line to imu that even he can’t escape death

[@Speedishortzales]

@@nomadsherm6666saint Imu its a man

[@nomadsherm6666]

@@Speedishortzales that's yet to be seen, it would be nice and makes this a love story but I'm not 100% sure about that

[@bruhbruh9895]

Oda be like: Damn, I've never thought of that!

[@denestrem]

Nah bro. Oda be like: Nice little theory you got there

[@Enderman13]

Oda’s like ooo write that down probably

[@twtw2401]

Nah, oda be like: Oh damn, he is right! Let's change it all up again so he isn't.

[@fyroboi2053]

Oda : that's interesting. However I have something bet you didn't saw that coming

[@Chronoflation]

How much you wanna bet Oda just occasionally looks back at things he wrote 20 years ago for words with double meanings just so he can incorporate those other meanings in his current work so everyone thinks he's some foreshadowing master, when he's really just the most clever adlibber ever

[@TH-CO]

Finally someone has worked it out. Binks sake always seemed important

[@seshasaicreations834]

what the heck 20 years ir cant be real

[@matchi1275]

We dont know yet.. in the past we were also wrong every time😅

[@nickking3310]

rip my buddy aaron who told me one piece was a flooded world and that bins sake is the story of joy boy 4 years ago. rest in piece buddy, you were right. I wish you were here to see just howright you were

[@seDrakonkill]

Rip to a real one

[@royalsfan2.087]

Sad.. Rip

[@w.8372]

I think it's something like this. Verse 1 describes the problem, if the ancient kingdom wanted to keep being free and conquering the waves they had to deliver Binks sake. So Binks sake could be a powersource like the motherflame and it had to go to the moonbase (Uranus) Verse 2 would then be Joyboy setting out on his journey to Laughtale. Everyone is happy initially but the last line refers to a schism in beliefs in the world. So the beliefsystem of the 20 kingdoms gains traction. Verse 3 pretty simple Joyboy is branded a pirate but continues his mission. Verse 4 conflict has arisen waterlevels are rising. The plan can still succeed if Joyboy and allies don't give up. However it does seem that some of Joyboy's allies did loose their nerves. Zunesha comes to mind. Verse 5 is the contingencyplan, Joyboy and allies were defeated but they shared the same dream so although they knew that they would be isolated on islands they made sure future generations could still do what Joyboy set out to do. The last line might actually refer to Toki as the contingencyplan to the contingencyplan. The basic idea is that the Wano clans except the Kurozumi clan are all vassal families to certain D families. This to ensure that a new Joyboy could be born in case certain D families outside of Wano got wiped out. Verse 6 would be the world is doomed for now. Joyboy's journey was in the end hopeless and even if he reached Laughtale the cause was already lost. However the opposing side would also not live forever and eventualy die. Which Imu obviously did not do.

[@thedude7319]

The ending of one piece will be such a blast, seeing which theorists were real. And how deep the writing went

[@user-zx8sp4dc8u]

Real bro 🗿 I HOPE I DON'T DIE BEFORE THAT

[@tornado4708]

The Don in Bink's Sake is reference to Don Krieg. There is a reason he and Gin have not been seen since East Blue, both of them are in Laughtale.

[@elijahsolt9577]

Imagine 💀💀💀

[@alwaysfknsleepy]

This man is the first person to earn a 4th Michelin Star frfr

[@yehhhremix2810]

lol no

[@siretanunicolai2239]

Who let bro cook?💀

[@Nerfalucard-lighrborn]

Don't let this man go in his villain arc

[@damaduck8290]

Joyboy is nefertari D. Lily's son. Nefertes is an Egyptian sun god who was born from a blue lily flower.

[@Lbstee123]

Blue Lily's are also psychedelic 😺

[@jacborne614]

@@Lbstee123now i want some…😢

[@HASTAGGAMEZ_YSLO]

Nnooooo

[@KingOfThePiratesOfTheHill]

Sun god was born from Blue Lotus. Blue Lily is what they took for ritual hallucination.

[@trollinski20]

Good theory

[@notyozuka7348]

The clash between Joyboy and whoever was hunting him actually makes so much sense! Before Luluia the only time we ever saw a literal hole in the ocean was beneath Enies Lobby, the island where justice is enacted. (ominous much?) Maybe that was where Joyboy died under the endless attacks of Uranus. Where the only thing that remained was his strawhat, which Imu took. Where the World Government later installed Enies Lobby to showcase their superiority or simple prove a point. Maybe the promise to the fishmen was to never make use of Poseidon. For Joyboy to solve these problems himself, which he failed to do.

[@williammay8879]

I think the line about "we'll all be bones" kind of sounds like joyboy telling imu that "even you cant live forever and will eventually just die" further indicating the cycle was known by joyboy

[@ErshErshovich]

I think Joy Boy is referring to the Jolly Roger flag and the Great Era of Pirates. "You can defeat me, Imu, and your will will prevail. But the day will come, and another guy will inherit my will and will raise the flag of freedom with a scull and bones in it. Maybe, you will defeat him too; but when everyone will hear the drums of liberation, when everyone will decide to live as they want to, when everyone will become a pirate... What will you do, Imu? "

[@Crimson_Beninaru]

@@ErshErshovich Or it could mean both. Joyboy telling Imu you can't live forever while also saying that a great pirate era will come about someday and they'd be powerless to do anything about it.

[@TwilightWolf2508]

So it's pretty implied that the power of the Ope Ope no Mi has been used before to give someone eternal life, otherwise people wouldnt know it has that power. To me, "Doesnt matter who you are, someday you'll just be bones" feels like it's directly targeting whoever that power was used on. "It doesn't matter that you were given eternal life, someday you'll be defeated." The line about it being a "never-ending, hopeless/aimless" journey could also be referencing that same person. Whatever it is they hope to accomplish is futile. They will be stopped, and the 800 years they've spent will be for nothing. I always love Binks' Sake theories. I've always believed Binks to be Joyboy, and that the song is a history, prophecy, and the key to finding or understanding whatever it is on Laugh Tale.

[@sixtyninefps]

What about how the "Can we get much higher" meme accidentally foreshadowed the rising sea levels 😂

[@emanperez28]

@@sixtyninefps 😂

[@imleo007]

😭💀

[@Hakenai.]

I think Binks Sake means Pink Sun Sake - Sake of setting Sun - Joyboy, passed to people to let them know, that if they don't give up and keep living, eventualy Sun will Rise once again - Luffy. I mean that, because Binks Sake in Japanese is spelled "Binksu no sake", which sounds similar to "Pink Sun sake". It's also similar to what Saul said to Robin, keep laughing and living, eventualy good things happen to You.

[@TheWarmachine375]

"Keep guessing. I will surprise you with my totally different revelation!" - Oda probably

[@chappymangames5374]

The thing that I just love about one piece and Oda as an author is that these theories are plausible. Just the fact that Oda is doing this intentionally and that it’s not some crazy fan rambling is amazing to me and why I love one piece so much.

[@reigoj8228]

Some random word things from the video: 4:32 there is text AaMu, which is finnish for dawn. The number series in 4:34 6-108 can be read as 6/108 referring to dragon. Don means teacher or elderly family member. Now we have finnish, dragons and teachers here. "Sing the song with the knowers of the old; Hear the song as it has been told" is finnish style starting to old shamanistic songs. "Sing the song with the don; A song of the waves" is basically the same message. Finnish mythos is mostly known trough songs and how much is real historical tales and how much is just legends is huge questionmark. Edit: Our findings; Kaleva, father of heroes and first finnish historical figure might be inspiration for joy boy. His name means boy after all, and his family thematic in finnish mythos matches with the D. Iki-Turso is thematically fit with Kaido. His second name, Tursas, might be linked to Surume. Enel and luffy color schemes might be inspired by Päivätär and Kuutar, goddesses of sun and moon. Rhombar sun drums are shamanistic tools used to free spirits from the body. Rumbar pirates, crew brook originally was part of, might be gaining their name from these drums and brooks ability to remove his spirit might come from Noeida, witches of sami belief.

[@Wishkeyn]

The finnish mythos brings up some interesting things, mainly Louhi (could be strongly related to Imu), Sampo (Shiofuku usu) and the egg shape of the world. Most importantly this part: "She hides the sun and the moon and steals fire from Kalevala." After losing the Sampo in the previous battle. Which is strangely similar to the world being flooded and Nika fruit being hidden.

[@Wishkeyn]

This ofc also brings the question, what about the moon, could it be that the yami yami no mi (darkness fruit) is actually a mythical zoan, not a logia? Looking at all the abilities it has, it seems far more reasonable to think it's a mythical zoan, than a Logia which doesn't even have some of the most iconic logia abilities, logias are generally quite simple aswell, and does not seem correlate with the gravity abilities of the fruit. Blackbeard seems to have gained durability and strength after eating it, which seems to be consistent with zoan fruits. The sheer amount of different abilities gained by the fruit also points in the direction of a mythical zoan. From a storytelling perspective Blackbeard is setup to be a similar, but contrasting character to Luffy, him having the moon god fruit in contrast to the sun god fruit would be quite interesting. This last one is a stretch, but during enies lobby when kaku recieves his fruit, he feels a gravitational like pull towards it, which coupled with the other foreshadowing of Jabra saying you can't eat two devil fruits because the devils would rip you apart, definitely could've been written with Blackbeard in mind.

[@reigoj8228]

@@Wishkeyn let's throw some nice Finnish mythos to mix: Vellamo is goddess of still waters, wife to Ahti, god of seas. Louhi is also called iovitar, the goddess betrayed and goddess of misery. Now there are two more intresting female goddesses. Kuutar, goddess of moon who spins yarn of gold. Päivätär, goddess of sun who spins yarn of silver. Seems odd that they spin eachothers colors to clothes. These two gods were among first to be born from egg of creation. Then we have the dragon god of the deep, iki-turso. Some times also called Tursas, god of war.

[@reigoj8228]

@@Wishkeyn Now I have intresting twist to who could be actual joy boy inspiration: "Kuulkaa kalevaa kuulkaa valtiasta, kuulkaa pohjolan herraa" Or as anglo-saxon recorded him: Caelic. Basically all historical records found about pre-1000 finns revolve around this figure. Kalevan pojat (Caelic sons) are giants and heroes of the past, rulers of finns, sami, estonians and karelians alike. Basically unifiers across the land. Yet after christianity came, sons of caelic became known as hiisi. Demons. And we have family of D here. Pretty much all of the finnish mythos heroes are called sons of kaleva and the whole tale is called kalevala after him. So why Kaleva? Because Kaleva means boy. And Happy/Joy boy kinda fits. And sons of the boy just thematically fits with the D.

[@MJ-qd3jg]

​@@reigoj8228 You 2 blew my mind here honestly

[@ramedius8171]

Clearly there is two side to Joyboy's story. For some, he would be the treasured friend that travelled the worldhelping people, while for others, he would be the demon that drowned countless people using that ancient weapon. The sun of joy and the moon that rules over tides. Two facets of the same person, dependinng on the opinion you have of the guy. The moon taking the place of the sun could be refering to one version becomming mainstream in the place of the other for a while.

[@grantzwingelberg8752]

I think the one piece is litterally a barrel of Binks sake. And the feeling of everyone having good drink. Rodger was 20 years early because it still needed to ferment.

[@Huhzym]

If this was true it would be funny (for me) but it would also be a huge disappointment

[@Shaunshahriar]

Ahh and after drinking the sake you gain all the knowledge of the world. Psychedelic sake. That explains why the roger pirates were all laughing and giggling

[@axion3979]

i know its crazy but what if luffy some how causes all of the water on the planet to disappear (destroying fishman island) and they figure out using the ancient weapons causes a rise in the ocean

[@jeyhunkhalilov3469]

if this theory is true, then Oda has made the most genius easter egg ever

[@Foyay_Red]

I think that Brook either made, or is a descendent of the person who made binks sake and it was passed down to him. Because the rumbar pirates always told him to “play THAT song” and they only asked Brook. So I think that it implies that he either made it or is the only one who knows it

[@kaiinretsu]

So I feel like there is a major part of this song being misread based on both translations, especially if we think Joy Boy and Imu are brothers(biological or symbolical via sake[more likely]). This means Imu is from the Ancient Kingdom. If the waking of Uranus happened when Joy Boy(or Binks most likely) awakened the Nika Fruit, that means Imu was there. Imu has control of Uranus now. What if Imu wanted to control the world with the power his brother awakened? JB didn't want that, he wanted freedom. On the following lines, talking about activated Pluton and the sea rising the 109 meters, there is a context in the setting sail. What if Imu actually activated Uranus, and destroyed their home country? Never to see the docks of his home again, as the song suggests, JB sets sail. Maybe Pluton was already in the Ancient Kingdom, and JB stole it. Now Imu, who has the world in fear for his power with Uranus, wants to capture Pluton and JB. Remember, the World Government has been searching for Pluton for the entire length of this series pretty much, and specifically Cipher Pol who report directly to the WG and not other organizations within it. This means Imu might be the one who used the devices and raised the water level. Maybe there was already a war between the Ancient Kingdom and other countries around the world, as theories have thought in the past. Remember, this is 100 years missing. Imu ended the war that was already going on, winning against the world but destroying their home in the Ancient Kingdom. As the victor, he took the throne of the world and had the kingdoms he defeated become submissive to him. Yes, these nobles would have become the Celestial Dragons. At no point have we seen the Elders or Imu around or even associate with the CDs. This means their actions and behavior might not be something those with real power even care to even pay attention to. However in the void century, these are the nobles who agreed to submit to Imu. We already know Imu has shown a want to control with force. Maybe there is a hatred between Imu and JB besides JB fleeing and wanting the world to not be oppressed. However, the alliance that JB formed went against the newly formed WG and lost. JB was named a pirate and had a bounty on his head simply for opposing Imu. I highly doubt, with these possibilities, that JB is the one to have caused the cataclsymic events. Anyway, food for thought. Edit: Even though the activation of Poseidon is mentioned around the second raising of the sea level, maybe this second raising of the sea level is when Uranus is used to defeat the uprising of JB and his alliance. JB was a liberator, but he lost. Maybe what made him lose was his inability to actually kill Imu. Maybe he was posed with the chance to do so, but he couldn't kill someone he loved as a brother, no matter how his life had strayed. Maybe that is what he apologized for. Maybe that is why he needed to make a plan, to let someone else in the future take on the mantle of his dreams for liberation. Someone who could actually put an end to Imu's reign. Also, the talk about everything going to bones eventually, I feel like that's poking at Imu's immortality. Eventually his death will come. Luffy will be the one to bring it.

[@Mortarion-xt9wp]

About the line about the bones... In my opinion it refers to the brother (probably Imu) and that despite his great power/eternal youth he will be cast down and defeated eventually.

[@OmniGod-perfection]

There was a letter by joyboy in fishman Island that was apologizing for something. Now that we know he failed and was defeated by the world government, the question is, did he survive and had the chance to write that letter later?, or did he know he was going to lose and he wrote the letter before?

[@Raccone2341]

He maybe knew he couldn't fight again wg so he probably wrote it and he already knew someone would come and take his place and defeat wg

[@OmniGod-perfection]

@@Raccone2341 but then he still fought again and got captured, and (I'm not sure about this but,) spread some message in the exact same way Roger did when he chose his death. So what could the message be?

[@Nerfalucard-lighrborn]

​@@OmniGod-perfectionmaybe he was protecting something or someone

[@OmniGod-perfection]

@@Nerfalucard-lighrborn if so, the most probable answer would be Poseidon or the whole fishman island. But why? The question arises what was he protecting them from? Were they oppressed at that time as well? Or maybe because ancient kingdom didn't qualify fishmen as equal level as them. That's why they were sided with joyboy?

[@Nerfalucard-lighrborn]

​​@@OmniGod-perfectionwhat is joyboy ideal his idea is liberation probably he was trying to save fishman or poseidon maybe poseidon was his lover or his friend that he wasn't able to protect and you know Poseidon is a fishman/fishwoman and she/he could be a girl lover and fisherman's are very beautiful

[@The_Best_Sukuna]

I personally think that the line “ Farewell to the harbor, To my old hometown” is him saying that he actually destroyed his hometown with Uranus. Which would be another reason why he became a wanted man and the ancient kingdom was lost. It would also explain why he could only stay on pluton (Since he has no home to come back to). He could have also abandoned Uranus in some location far from him and his heart beat (Red Line). I’m kinda taking some inspiration from a previous video when @Ohara explained that Imu could actually be a lunarian. And Imu (the lunarian) wanted to stop the psycho joy boy since he couldn’t stop destroying. So he decided to clash against his friend and from the madness of killing his friend he turned into the so called villain Imu.

[@ager14]

The section with "we'll all be bones" could hint to the theory of the traitor of the gorosei, but for this i must explain a bit: zunesha is called an Ally of Joyboy. His Inspiration are the paintings of Salvadore Dali. Reading the species of Zunisha Backwards could mean Something Like: "the elephant is like Dalis paintings". There are a few paintings with elephants and with other animals. In Dalis "temptation of saint Anthony" there is a horse, leading elephants. It seems like they are fighting saint anthony and his believes. This could be a hint of the thing vegapunk said, that he dont know which side is right. With binks sake in mind, the Song is played on Brooks Violine. A picture with a Violine could be "spider of the evening". There is a Violine melted in the ground and in the Back is a skeletal horse. My theory ist, that the traitor is Nusjuro. As skeletal horse he could be a Spy from Joyboy to observe the world gouvernement and be an Ally for the final Fight. Maybe i am Interpretating much more meaning to it, but maybe we must Look more to the paintings of Salvadore Dali to understand the History of the world and maybe following Content of One Piece.

[@becac1655]

I FULLY SUPPORT your theory. I left a comment about how Betrayal is SUCH an important factor in One Piece, and about Mirror truth. A relative truth that is similar but not quite. Nusjuro's name, in Japanese, is "イーザンバロン・Vブイ・ナス寿郎聖" (Īzanbaron Bui Nasujurō Sei) If we take THIS (イー) but invert it, we have (ーイ) which is similar to One CHO! The DON. As well as how his V. or Bui, sounds similar to D. Di. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, HE is the leader of SWORD

[@ager14]

Ok, this theory ist fire! This reveal would be awesome, also because of his Fightingstyle. It also could hint to the trojan horse of greek hythologie Would be grate to see Nasujuro open the gates of Pangea to Sword and the Strawhats in the final war.

[@Harsha-xj7xh]

Maybe Joy Boy's actual name is Binks. That could mean that he shared sake (accepted someone as his comrade/friend) with 4 people, (since Binks Sake appeared 4 times in the song like mentioned at 17:08).

[@Crimson_Beninaru]

So possibly the four characters are Zunesha, the ancient robot, Imu, and Poseidon (or maybe a completely different character)

[@CT_20243]

The Calm belt is maybe now luffy’s territory as an emperor currently since the kuja pirates is there and if the mermaid princess stop crying and start commanding all the giant creatures at the calm belt

[@projectafterworld2557]

My interpretation of that last line kind of flips the entire story a little. "We'll never meet again, but don't worry, the moon will rise tomorrow" This sounds like Nika falls in that battle, and someone else (the moon god) appeared to *finish the fight he started*. This in turn implies that Imu is NOT the moon god, that the moon god was an ally in the end, or at the very least, also interested in ending the fight. The meme obsessed part of my mind says "It's gonna be Buggy, dramatic reveal, Chop chop fruit is actually the Hito Hito nomi, Mythical Model 'Moon God Binks' ". Tell me that wouldn't fit buggy's "failing upwards" motif and fit in with current events. He's ALSO going to the end, he's ALL ABOUT taking credit for someone others' work, and even if he DOESN'T wind up filling that role, his crew would ABSOLUTELY think he did regardless. He's a dramatic opposite in personality to Luffy, as opposed as the moon to the sun, and yet very similar too. Heck, you could even argue that splitting apart is somehow a reference to the phases of the moon. He and Luffy both have that natural magnetism to them that rallies allies. What if that's a god's attribute? Plus, Buggy has evaded capture and death for DECADES through dumb luck and happenstance the same way the Nika fruit did. What if that's why he fails upwards? Literally being dragged to the top by the unbreakable threads of fate. Yet another counter to Luffy, who seems to be the one dragging the threads instead.

[@projectafterworld2557]

Also, I can't be the only one to notice that the misspoken lyric "Umi" is an anagram for "Imu" (even in terms of pronunciation, it'd be easy to swap the two) and is read as the word for "Deep Ocean". There's GOTTA be something there, because if the original Japanese also misreads the line, it's NOT a localization thing.

[@Brazilian-cara]

As my fellow Brazilians would say, it can't be Oda is a genius

[@FORTOONS570]

I'm thinking that Imu was on Joyboy's crew and when he awakened the ancient weapons, he stole part of Joyboy powers, AKA the mother flame and backstabbed him, thus using Uranus against him in their battles, their final time as brothers like Ace and Luffy

[@Crimson_Beninaru]

You know, someone in the One Piece fandom wiki keeps going on about Luffy eating the mother flame and becoming powerful enough to damage Warcury. This honestly fits quite well with what you're saying.

[@Theylietous]

Binks sake says “in the end we’re all just bones” Luffy also says this to kaido, “when we die all that’s left is bones”

[@DamKaKaDaNi]

Tragedy + time = comedy. Laugh tale.

[@TheSixthRagnarok]

27:57 No I disagree. The Sea Kings said, "It'll work out this time". I think Joyboy was trying to do something but failed. This is reinforced by the Iron Giant awakening and saying, "I'm sorry, Joyboy" and Zunesha being punished as the result of a "crime". Zunesha's crime was probably helping Joyboy, and after his death the WG punished Zunesha. I believe Joyboy was trying to liberate the world from slavery after coming across Fishman Island and other similar injustices in different countries around the world. Apparently, slavery was prohibited by the WG 200 years ago or so. But it still lives on in certain places, and the WG receives bribes for letting it happen and ignoring it. The Donquixote family had slaves way before the Void Century with the Tontatta before they left for Mary Geoise, and Doffy controlled the Auction House before he gave it to Disco. Tequila Wolf is another place filled with Slavery, its construction being ordered by the World Government over 700 years ago, just 100 years after the Void Century ended. The First 20 didn't like the fact that Joyboy & the Ancient Kingdom wanted to do that, so they formed an alliance to take down Joyboy's "vast factions" and started a war against him and the Ancient Kingdom. Remember, slavery makes the slaves suffer and enrich the masters. Just like what the Celestial Dragons do now. They wanted to carry on with that, and they got their way. They wanted total control of the world, and they got it.

[@NickMayweather]

The Sun God and the moon God thing got me thinking.... What up in the skies affects the ocean's most..... The Moon

[@CH3M1CAL_]

so its very likely that enel the lightning daddy still has a massive roll towards the end of the series. especially given we still have little to no context on what he us doing on the moon, the ppl he is with, and enels own race. (ik we know abt all of this to an extent but it can def play a bigger role later on)

[@CH3M1CAL_]

Also its very possible enel couldve had a mythical zoan, he was able to transform his entire body into lightning, which is insane. changing how he looks entirely. NOW ik it seems obsurd bc he is a logia. BUT it's entirely possible he has the abilitys of a logia but is a mythical zoan like marco. I mean if luffy was said to be a paramecia but then was truly a mythical zoan who is to say enel wasnt a mythical zoan said to be a logia. Maybe he never used his awakened form to its full extent. I mean we never seen any other logia users change their entire body and shape the way enel did. Not only that but his observation haki was insane for how early in the series it was. maybe it wasnt even observ haki. it couldve been just his pure zoan abilities which he was unaware of. Only problem is there is only one Yokai id assume to be Enel if he was a mythical zoan. and thats the Raijū. Now its possible enel is just an Awakened Logia. because a Raijū is a beast. Almost like a wolf. but here are sone context to why it still could be possible 1. Raijū live in the sky-a world which was totally off limits to humans before the 20th century. (could refer to moon or even skypiea) 2. Whenever lightning struck, people believed that a raijū had been sent by the gods to punish them for some reason or another. (The sky people felt the same way) 3. Small raijū like burrow into humans’ belly buttons to hide from angry thunder gods. (Could be why Enels body became a bit fatter when he was pure lightning form)

[@3lloGuvner]

@@CH3M1CAL_ Notice also that when Enel transforms he has the hagoromo, the scarf you see floating around the heads of most eastern deities, the same as other awakened zoan. What if Enel isn't any mythical zoan but is actually the god of rain mentioned in skypea alongside the god of the sun. Perhaps his powers extend beyond just lightning to storms in general.

[@OverKillionaire]

I really enjoyed the length that you went thru to do a thorough explanation of the Bink's Sake! I understand that protagonist breaking a cycle is a no so common occurrence among grand storylines. The first thought I had about your theory on Joy Boy, Roger, and Luffy having different conclusions on the One Piece took me to the Mass Effect narrative. In Mass Effect, we were looking at total annihilation by the hands of the Reapers. Past civilizations have known of impending doom once they have thrived for 50,000 yrs. The last grand civilization, the Prothans, devised a means of ending the cycle. Shepherd was the relay-setting individual who set sail to help the galactic community, found out the threat, then came to possess the means to eliminate said threat. Very interesting to see how this parallels Luffy and his story.

[@EVacStation]

Love how this makes Brook (the deliverer of this song to the to the Strawhats) more important. And also really sells me of Luffy's urgency to find a musician fkr the crew. If true, alsays loved lore drops hidden in poems and songs.

[@LairdeLampblack]

the fact that the official english version says references to thibgs like "it's time to sound the drums" and "stomp your feet and clap your hands til sunny days return" makes some of the stuff youre pointing out more explicit to me. excellent work man

[@touy_rz2990]

I have a theory, what if Joy Boy ate two devil fruits like Tetch and one of them was Luffy's fruit and Brook's fruit, then after Joy Boy died, his will and soul entered any fruit next to Imu-sama's room full of trees and one of the trees had fruit , and it could also explain why we saw the Straw Hat that Imu-sama had. It is also possible that Joey Boy was laughing as Brooke laughs, so this song contains Brooke's laugh

[@cucumberwatermelon]

It’d be really cool if towards the end of One Piece the main cast adds another verse or 2 to the song based on their journeys and ending what Joy Boy started, or possibly a secret verse of the song being revealed that was hidden in the past, as that would add an unheard of or forgotten part of the song & story as a whole.

[@RT849]

Oda be like looking for the Transponder Snail in order stop the projection of this video 😂😂

[@breezinshorts4290]

Would be crazy if Imu cut Luffy’s photo because he saw the straw hat and was reminded of his brother. And once he sees gear 5, we get a flashback of the first time he ever saw that form.

[@breezinshorts4290]

Also kind of dope that we getting concepts of the sun and moon and how the cycle must continue no matter who you are. Reminds me of Naruto with Indra and Ashura 😂

[@bugzamsedel7523]

no matter the ending will be, it was fun trying to read and see between the lines. much respect to you, your channel and the whole lot other more One Piece fans that are holding this making of a master piece come to a full bloom. but alas this is where I’ll draw the line and would much rather give my wholesome, outmost respect to sensei Oda san, I will continue to read on and watch, as I will cherish these last few arcs, and receive with content, the true treasure, the final reveal, non other than from sensei Oda san.

[@Udamasta]

Ive heard a lot of OnePiece fan theories, you have BY FAR the most thoughtful theories I'm aware of. Thank you for contributing to the amazing community following what is (in my opinion) one of the greatest stories ever told.

[@DavidThePhantom]

SPOILERS Last few lines of Bink's sake: - War breaks out, world is flooded, only the red line is left - water 7 succeeded, sea kings are used to bring survivors to the red line after the war - Giant party break out now that everyone is united on one continent - The opening of the Grand line (reverse waterfall) is broken so we get the all blue - It's revealed that Brook is the narrator, he is immortal because he is all bones so doesn't age or get sick or need anything to survive. - Sad because brook is the one telling the story after everyone has passed.

[@genericrocker7655]

Booze brings people joy, and if he was delivering it to various islands then that could be where the Joyboy nickname came from. Once the global flooding began, it's logical that people would have encountered extreme difficulty in obtaining certain products until ships became more accessible. And since Joyboy is confirmed to be the "first pirate", it may be possible for his ship to have been one of the first ships built in their world.

[@Oceanlord2022]

What if the "moon god's" spirit is inherited by Blackbeard? Seeing as how Blackbeard has been said to be similar, and yet the opposite of Luffy, kind of like how the sun and moon will rarely be in the sky at the same time.

[@Crimson_Beninaru]

I was thinking the same cuz in Blackbeard's past as a kid, he's shown being sad and awake (cuz he can never sleep) during a full moon.

[@toad6284]

Farewell to the harbor. To my old hometown could also mean that his hometown and harbor were destroyed with the first raising of the sea level and so when he chooses a flag to represent his point of origin it’s a skull and cross bones to indicate that his home port is dead.

[@Thato_530]

So Ohara has been trying to solve this mystery for 20 yrs huh 💀

[@1BadGamer]

That’s what I thought 😂

[@srijonroy3505]

He has been researching One Piece since 2004

[@why_not1017]

So did we

[@MasterHigure]

​@@srijonroy3505 That's fine. I am more impressed that he has studied this song since 3 years before it was ever on print in Shounen Jump.

[@drbloxblaster]

@@srijonroy3505 i wasnt even born then 😂

[@Jerrell7321]

Sake is alcohol but is specifically known as a "Spirit", what if every mention of Bink's Sake refers to not just his Will but his actual spirit/soul. 22:30 lines and the final lines may refer to his crew delivering his soul as a sacrifice to end the war he created. 21:54 This is was his answer to stopping Puton from continuous use, by removing himself from the equation entirely. He and the crew know it's their last day together but to not fear, death comes for everyone including themselves. Ironically, this is EXACTLY what Rodger did for his crew after finding Lafftale. He sacrificed himself for their freedom and died laughing. Remember there was a *sacrifice alter* in Skypiea, used by the Gods! Joyboy could've sacrificed himself to the Moon God to prevent the ancient weapons from being used. This is why there were only 2 floods. This maybe why Kuma & other Revolutionary Army members carry what appears to be a Bible, Joyboy was actually OP Jesus. The biblical floods, the ark, the Sun Gods resurrection, yeah they line up spot on.

[@Jerrell7321]

Additionally! Think back to when Luffy’s crew approached the Skypiea area from the sea. A massive storm occurs, sea monsters appeared back to back bigger than the last, and the Shandorian shadows appeared in the sky. The whole crew was scared and left. But they learned that storm was the sea gyser they needed to rise to Skypia. What if the line about weathering the storm was the secret to getting into Skypiea, as the crew had to weather the storm together to access it and reach the land of the Sun God.

[@Jerrell7321]

It’s also extremely interesting how between Joyboy & Rodger, for 800 years the only people who have made it to Lafftale were the ones who found & made it to Skypiea

[@SibusisoMabuza-zk7mz]

Oda: his finally cracked the code too bad that will be his last theory video

[@Sora_Raion]

Another thing, it's normal for tales/stories to change over the decades. I wouldn't be surprised if they found an “Original Version” of Binks' Sake in Laugh Tale. Not with many differences, but maybe 1 or 2 lines that completely close this you say and make it clear that it's a Joy Boy song.

[@jordantheboss00]

I would consider blackbeard for the moongod fruit. His fruit is seemingly the direct opposite of luffy's fruit which allows him freedom. Meanwhile, blackbeard's fruit seemingly takes away freedom i.e. other devil fruits.

[@jordantheboss00]

It could have a false name similar to lugfy's fruit. Although presumably blackbeard's is not a zoan type devil fruit.

[@mspitler]

I like to think that the Uranus weapon is actually a giant Drum. Powered by mother flame, it rises bright in the sky and creates/destroys the players will/dreams. When used correctly it could unify islands, or destroy them completely.

[@Leslie1984Adams]

sometimes your theories are pretty wild and you need several rolls of tin foil to help believe em but this one. It somehow all just fits, its scary. And it makes so much sense. the line from Rayleigh about them maybe having a different conclusion to to them is the metaphorical and literal nail in coffin for me that makes all this just come together.

[@AmmoniaO]

some spoilers here. now, heres an really intresting yet wacky theory, i thought of was when i saw the title was, that the Bink's sake hold some memory line with Joyboy. how its a traumatising song for Joyboy. but the meaning of it is that The song is meant to lift the spirits of those who sing it and forget out the fateful past it carried along with it. Sabo is the opposite of ''Imu'' and Ace is the opposite of ''BB''. (ironic because Ace had a fight with black beard and IMU had a fight with sabo) >just like a piece of history, sabo's dream was to travel and write a book containing the story of everything he would see and every place he would visit during his journey. but on the other hand, IMU is like the opposite version where he would bury history books in floods.. >Blackbeard's wish is to become the to become King of the Pirates, a dark side of freedom where he will be the free one. but to counter that, Ace was the light side, where he had his own, to make the whole world know his name and to surpass Roger and to not be the freest. for short ill just be naming Letters. (ASL n JIB) parallels on how L's childhood went, where he had Sake with S and A for brotherhood. as where J did the same thing 800-900 years back with I and B but he didnt get the same results. so J was left alone, but J needed to continue on his journey and met along the parrel version of everyone in L's crew. From J's crew, they were like L's crew. expect, even though its similar, From J's crew, everyone had betrayed him for a '''reason''. this parallel comes to play when L's crew looked like they were betraying him in a sense. in the end everything works out for L but not for J. J's crew Betrayed for reasons, but it was different, as J's crew couldve probably be just doing it for the benfit of their own. again, opposite of what L's crew who had a reason to have their own captain set sail with ease while theyd be the ones suffering. which later on, J's crew realised a little too late. they realise their own mistakes and wanted to apologise to J for that very reason. brain shut off

[@OmniGod-perfection]

Sun god nika can't be truly 'sun god' without eternal/mother flame. That means luffy will definitely get the mother flame in the future.

[@preetsokhal9896]

In Hinduism and Buddhism, 108 number holds a significant meaning. In Hinduism, 108 is the basis of creation, represents the universe and all our existence. In Buddhism, the significance of the number lies in the fact that within those two dates, light transformed into darkness a total of 108 times and the reverse also occurred the same number of times. I believe One Piece is reflection of our beliefs in our actual world (our reality). 👍🏻

[@otakuhero2621]

All becomes bone, could be saying in the end everyone will become a pirate because the symbol of pirates is skull and bones

[@Lefteris-ez4nk]

Possibly because the world is set to flood leaving no land, so everyone would be forced to become pirates

[@Huhzym]

You might be onto something

[@Buckettt10]

And becoming pirates mean becoming all free, also that's Luffy dream, he wants everyone to be free, eat whatever they want.. maybe bones here is a symbol of freedom. I can be reaching don't mind me 😂

[@xerokhan3239]

If drinking with your crew is a sign of friendship and loyalty, then Roronoa Zoro is always full of love and friendship for Luffy and his crew. That makes way too much sense.

[@kur0numartP1]

Wait a second, if you think about it, the ocean separates the world into islands, so before the flood all the world was a single landmass, the world was ONE PIECE

[@Jeremy-The-Bullfrog]

The last line almost stanza talking about how everyone dies almost reads as a challenge to Imu, who we assume is immortal.

[@ali_haider674]

I have been watching your videos for months and I am enjoying so much ❤❤

[@lexifer1711]

the Line "we will all be bones one day" could also imply we will all be pirates, referring to the jolly roger or the skull and crossbones. Pirates in the story represent freedom. this could mean something like, "no matter how tyrannical you may be freedom will always win in the end"

[@nicorobin3867]

If Brook's awakening can revive dead people, he can change the entire game of the series. 😅 I think most of the people are unaware of this

[@60hzReptilianAlien]

If the plot armour of reviving people is brought in the scene I’ll laugh for other 25 years 😂😂😂

[@tacoman10]

If Brook came back to life he'd be considerably weaker. As a skeleton he doesn't need to eat, drink, breathe, can run on water, is immune to all poisons and gases, is immune to most physical damage, can regenerate any injury by drinking milk and is functionally immortal.

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

I've thought of this as his awakening ability as well. I think there has to be some kind of drawback. Like after a certain amount of time the dead just stay dead OR in exchange for their lives brook has to die.

[@60hzReptilianAlien]

@@thelordoftheweebs9501 it MUST be right cause OP has absolutely nothing different from other top shonens: in db you have dragon balls in Naruto you have Edo tensei and in OP it will be Brook ofc. With the only difference OP is the one filled with most plot holes plot armours and ridiculous designs and character development 🫡

[@zf8496]

@@60hzReptilianAlien and lines perfectly with the narrative of one of the straw hats crew will die!

[@groovymel]

It's possible that the fishmen always intended to walk on land, maybe even evolved to have legs for that purpose but because of Joyboy raising the sea level the race ended up exiled deeper and deeper in the depths of the ocean, making their dream more difficult to achieve and that's what he's apologizing for.

[@koutroubasathanasios7322]

How does it make sense ? Its based on the premise of 109, which does not even hold up to basic math (you take a quote of 200 and just ignore that 109+109 does not equal 200 :D). So either the one setting up things, Oda, cant do basic math, or you are just grasping at (mathematical) straws and failing at it :D

[@fellipemendonca8668]

Loved the theory. It got me thinking about how maybe the Ancient Kingdom and other places had these even older deactivated weapons, but after Joyboy activated one, they greed on it, and as Joyboy set sail, maybe he 'took' the rest of these weapons from other places, which led to a total war, as the AK thrived using them or not. Even if not, I would find it so awesome if the AK was also 'corrupt' in a way. If the other weapons were 'given' to him, or 'befriended' of him, which would make more sense. I would not be surprised if Imu was a part of the AK, but was cast out, and them gattered the 20 kingdoms, pointing what was happening in there, but actually it was his doing, or something of sort. Maybe even, Joyboy was some sort of ruler of AK, activated Uranus and the technology would advance, so he travelled away to try on other Ancient Weapons, so his brother took place, and when he was coming back, then the usage of Uranus as Ohara mentioned would happen. Joyboy would eventually win that fight, but he would be said to be a "tyrant" (Kuma?), and as Imu came back with the 20 kingdoms, he chose not to use the weapons, but the trust that "the sun would shine again". Loved the video. Got me thinking a lot, and helped me to formulate even my other theories about Zunesha and how, at this point, only Momonosuke can "command" him. So, was the Wano Shogun responsible for Zuneshas punishment? Or only his command can overcome his punishment? Maybe, out of Joyboy choice of not fighting at full power at the end, he became a pacifist (oh hello there). He cannot fight if his comrades (Kozuki, D.s?) tell him, after all, it was his promise. Everything about Zunesha is off for me. It bugs me everytime. Punished, but the good guys can 'command' him? Like... Idk. I would love to see that Mokomo Dukedom was actually a part of AK, and similar to Oden holding his comrades, maybe Zuneshas punishment is doing the same. Anyway. Sorry about all this writing. Would love to discuss more if anyone has anything to counter these theories that I don't remember and that's why I had this idea

[@tremor230]

To build on your "Moon God" Theory. What if the moon god fruit is Blackbeard's darkness fruit? Nika fruit brings "light" everywhere and makes things Goofy and fun, Blackbeard's fruit brings darkness and makes things "normal" (it makes other devil fruits stop working) Maybe the old owner of that fruit during joyboy time was the one to betray him... And the world government changed that fruit name too

[@joshuamyers5650]

I feel like this theory is as solid as it can get ATM. Oda might have his own twist on certain details, but the gist of the story can’t be much different. This is why OP is one of the greatest. The foreshadowing and story line is just unmatched. Great video!

[@grimauc]

my (incomplete) theory, is that Joyboy left all the ancient weapons with each race he built relations with. Obviously Poseidon with the Fishmen, that's kinda inevitable. My main suggestion is that the Lunarians, another race with ties in some way to Joyboy, were left with Uranus. Uranus is a "Flying" kind of weapon, as shown by it raining down attacks from the sky in Lulusia. Lunarians are also a flying race. I believe Joyboy left Uranus with the Lunarians. Then, when the World Government wiped out the Lunarians, they found Uranus, which is why Uranus is the only ancient weapon owned by the world government. The main people left I can think of, are the people of Wano, the Giants of Elbaf, and the Sky Islanders. For the Sky Islanders, it could be that Lunarians are descendants of one of the original 3 Sky People, hence why they have similar features but are not present on the moon murals. Then, the Giants and the people of Wano can both be covered by Pluton. We know Pluton is a warship. With Franky's and Iceberg's reactions to the blueprints, it's possible that this warship is on a scale like they've never seen. If that is true, then it is likely that Pluton was built for the Giants, the only people who could have managed a ship that size. Then obviously Pluton was eventually given to Wano, for some reason that I cannot explain yet.

[@capvinay]

what if pluton is under wano, when odens fathers said pluton is burried under it he mean't it that way,and nobody further thought or questioned about what it was,if what you are saying is correct and pluton is in wano, it definetly was under it and may wano people were nomads,they use to wander around sea on that gaint ship and they got settled there afer that big war and isolated them selves from world nobles.

[@zorosanjiluffy1738]

that is a good theory. could it be that the pluton is a klabauterman ship sleeping? cause kozuki sukiyaki said that pluton is "resting" under wano. i think pluton is an unbreakable battle ship because it has the ultimate klabautermann

[@grimauc]

@@zorosanjiluffy1738 oooh that is a really cool suggestion. i like that. one annoying thing that i still cant figure out is why would pluton, whether a full ship or a klabautermann, be left in the care of Wano? especially if my theory is right and the ship was actually made for the Giants?

[@grimauc]

@@capvinay the people of Wano actually being nomads is a cool idea, it could be a parallel to how Oden lived with Whitebeard, sorta like a nomad, going from island to island

[@briankelly130]

I just noticed that Umi is Imu backwards and going with the "Imu represents the Moon" idea, considering the Sea/Ocean tends to have a connection with the moon with the tides and all that, it makes sense.

[@vfxjmb]

this man is Oda's biggest opp

[@jaolejeune2224]

Delivering Binks' sake to the world would be about bringing unity, peace and fraternity between individuals

[@LuffySan18]

Man stelle sich mal vor, das alles oder zumindest einiges stimmt, wie spektakulär wäre das denn!?

[@ConorCondor]

Oda: "I'll compose a simple pirate song to add as ambience in my pirate word" One piece theorists:

[@nicolaslanzoni9385]

0:30 it really bothers me that they chose to rhyme Don with "sets sails" and not "sails on".

[@roslolian11]

its in japanese bro.

[@TragicMagic0420]

19:00 "far off sky" can also be translated to something like "from the sky that is a thousand miles away" "Now comes a storm from the sky that is a thousand miles away" Sounds a hell of a lot like Enel coming back from the moon

[@AhmedHussain-ju6xd]

The don in the song is for conDoriano. Who's waiting for us at laftale

[@RiceFruits]

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[@cisarvialpando7412]

🤣

[@SideKickIsh]

What if blink’s Sake is a metaphor for brotherhood but also literally a drink that provides immortality, and Joyboy wanted to give this to his dying brother who was angry at him for flooding half the world

[@SideKickIsh]

After the fight the brother found it, now having had his revenge became imu and trying to protect all the people he cared about invited them above the red line should tragedy strike again for Joyboy promised he will come back

[@DaCyvler]

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[@javathon]

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[@icantthinkofaname158]

i like fries

[@GourSmith]

I like lies

[@icantthinkofaname158]

i like guys

[@heartofleaves]

The line saying that the sea is his pillow could also mean that he was submerged in the sea due to whatever caused the great flood.

[@Bouncydapanda]

Stopping kids from saying first Edit: Guys can you stop liking the likes are blowing up my phone

[@StConstatine]

Dammit!

[@StConstatine]

Not "stopping*" me from this

[@Volatilisnexium]

First

[@outtapocketcriminal]

Second

[@numanxd370]

N'a I win

[@adamis2cool]

still convinced that binks sake music and lyrics are what’s at Laugh Tale and voice of all things gave Roger the full autobiography. That’s why he said he wished he lived in the same time.

[@YuriHyuga86]

Not sure if it has come up from comments or through your research but when it comes to folk songs and other cultural practices there is a reason and meaning behind it. Best example I can give is in a series called [How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom]. A port town was going to be built to facilitate import and exports for the kingdom, one of the villagers who were going to be relocated to demolish the existing structures to rebuild opposed the plan. When asked for a reason he spoke about a vengeful sea god that would destroy anything that gets built in that area. Rather than write it off as an old man’s ramblings, the MC considered the possibility of tsunamis and tidal waves, he asked the old man about signs of a tidal wave which included receding tides and possible tremors, this was confirmed and they decided to have the old man come up with a folk story to teach the children about the signs and procedures whenever another tsunami occurs. What I want to point out with this absurdly long explanation, I agree with your thoughts on the song detailing the life and death of Joyboy and each verse is a chapter of his life. Also would want to consider that the reason for all the double meanings is because the song has been around for such a long time. It may have had other lyrics when the song first was sung and after consideration, a bard or some musician decided to adjust the lyrics to hide the truth of the events so that it can be safely passed down through the generations. It would definitely fit with why so many of the lyrics have dark meanings if the other interpretation is used. Would help if you applied this thought and rewrote the lyrics with the “hidden meaning” and compared it to the events of current day OnePiece.

[@joaolemos4079]

So JoyBoy was the "king of the world" (day) until he died (night), with a new ruler representing the moon (Imu). When Roger made it to king of the pirates he realized he was too early and couldn't be what JoyBoy wanted him to be. So Luffy, the new Sung God, will bring a new Dawn to the world, effectively ending the "night". But instead of raising the sea levels he will destroy the red line in hopes of bringing it down, destroying Mariegoise and fishman island, and fulfilling most of his crew's dreams (all blue for Sanji, brave warrior of the sea for Usopp, world map for Nami, secrets of the world for Robin, seeing the Thousand Sunny make it to Laughtale for Franky, reuniting with Laboon for Brook and becoming king of the pirates for Luffy, although can't think on how it benefits Zoro, Jimbey and Chopper).

[@joshuaduck4139]

Its been my theory for a while now that the reason the Roger pirates were too early was because the water hadn't risen enough. Bink's Sake was written when 109 meters were left to go before it rose to the point it needs to. This part has now been added to my theory Now we just need to know why it needs to be that high and why that made Rogers crew laugh.

[@alohakiwipro]

You know what would be sad? Brook singing the song, alone on a boat in a sea with no land left.

[@zaccheusp8691]

"doesn't matter who you are, some day you'll just be bones" could refer to Law's devil fruit and someone that received immortality.

[@GeorgeMesaros]

If there is trully an element of the OP world being stuck in a never ending cycle, then it's absolutely genius that this is being conveyed in a story that's literally a never ending cycle of the same structure (new island, opression, defeat bad guy, repeat)

[@3lloGuvner]

What if the current version of Bink's Sake is a corruption from hundreds of years of slight changes from various retellings, and the message joyboy left at laughtale is actually the original lyrics of Bink's Sake, which tell the tale more directly. So part of the reason the roger pirates laughed is because the truth at the end of the world had actually been known to them and most of the world all along.

[@Monk1400]

"doesn't matter who you are, someday you'll just be bones" sounds to me like Joyboy is saying that even the most powerful seemingly immortal person will die one day. As in, Joyboy might die, but Imu will also die no matter how hard they try to stay in control. Sounds like a haunting threat.

[@topazzsky]

Yes, bones could mean we all die, true, but it could also mean that if everyone were pirates (With Jolly Rogers/crossed bones) that they'd all be one in some way and therefore free qnd able to follow their dreams, like Luffy feels everyone should be allowed to do!