After 5,000 Miles of Hard Use Is The Cybertruck The Best Or Worst Truck We’ve Ever Owned?

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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
1:39 Recap: Cybertruck v. Ike Gauntlet
3:03 Brought to you by Raycon Everyday Earbuds
3:56 The Cybertruck has a power tonneau cover that totally works!
5:17 More minor issues
5:54 Going for a spin - more impressions
9:52 Buc-ee's run - towing range test
11:48 Impressions continued
14:39 Cybertruck v. Hell's Revenge (Moab)
15:47 Impressive off-road capability
20:50 How about trying to park it?
23:15 Second range test (*not* towing)
25:35 American Made, Baby! (and tractor pull)
28:43 How is the Cybertruck better than any other truck?
29:51 The car wash test
32:16 Thoughts on reliability
34:35 The Cybertruck has a great payload rating! But...
35:26 Closing thoughts
36:45 BUT WAIT! There's more!

[@TFLtruck]

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[@rcajavus8141]

Tesla has worse regen than Ford or Chevy and its not 5-10 percent difffernce, its 50-70 percent worse. thats criminal not even funny. llooks like a designed flaw. cant be just "coincidence"

[@hantusmostert]

Reality: Musk Cult

[@mabutoo]

Cybertruck made in Texas being told to go back to California is so funny.

[@donaldliverance2597]

Not so much, California was the market it was designed for

[@billroshia]

@@donaldliverance2597it is the truck equivalent of all hat no cattle. This is cosplay by CA tech dorks.

[@terryinozland]

Dummies say the dumbest stuff. Ignorance is like molasses to cows.

[@lrod8692]

Tesla knows the education level in Texas is pretty subpar, so they build it there and get some Texans to buy 😂

[@swow5210]

@@donaldliverance2597there is a SHIT ton of them in Texas. Don’t be a snowflake

[@Ungovernable74]

I drive a 20 yr old truck. No payment. Low taxes. Low insurance. That's how you grow wealth.

[@cuda426hemi]

Buying TSLA at $40 17 years ago before 7 splits is how you grow wealth. I basically didn't pay a penny for any of my Teslas back when I owned (ownership is so last century), and sure as sh•t didn't spend what you spend to run them in a quality of silence and power you will never experience. Each to their own. 🎬

[@furmanmackey5479]

The Lovely Bride and I own TWO trucks, an '05 Chevy Colorado LS, 5 cylinder, 4X4 (my "beater pickup) and a '14 RAM 1500, Quad Cab, 5.7L Hemi powered 4X4. The RAM is our primary vehicle and serves that purpose with ease and very good economy. Both are long paid for, and we have expendable income as a result!

[@furmanmackey5479]

@@cuda426hemi A close friend of the family "owns" a Tesla Y but he drives a 20yr old Honda Accord most of the time because his Y stays broken and in the maintenance area of the dealership more than it stays on the road. EV technology will have to go a long, long way before the majority of folks will be willing to part with their hard-earned money for one of any make or model. Considering how many EV makers have gone belly up or are about to, I suspect it will be at least twenty years before such vehicles become viable for use by the vast majority of driver/owners.

[@cuda426hemi]

@@furmanmackey5479 Your friend is the exception. Model Y just to serve you some shut-up juice is the #1 selling vehicle in WORLD ICE or not so you literally are out of gas. As far as your "opinions" you've been wrong on Tesla for 17 years and counting. Literally easily found stats will show ICE cars demand is slowing and EVs can't be made fast enough. You simply are wrong on all counts.

[@jameslanglois2873]

The rav4 outsells the model y in every market ​@cuda426hemi

[@jordanr1987]

i wanna see people use the bed like a normal truck - how is it loading/unloading hockey gear? golf bags? lumbar? drywall? mulch? USE THE TRUCK - I don't think i've seen any reviews testing the bed

[@fuze3522]

No one uses the actual bed anymore. For most people pickup trucks only exist as a status symbol, they never actually use them. I hate it.

[@thedefinitive6296]

That's the neat part...you can't!

[@thehonesttruth8808]

It’s great for dry wall and gear…everything adjusts automatically depending on the weight…the only thing I strongly dislike is not being able to easily reach over the side to grab things…that’s literally it

[@jdwht2455]

@@fuze3522 I have a pickup and have owned many since 1976. Yes, it's a truck and gets used like one as everyone else I know uses theirs. No, I'm not a contractor, etc, just a retired OF (ME) that uses his pickup as designed to be used

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

It’s got 2000 payload

[@scottyellis3442]

It looks so much better wrapped. Reliability???? You can't judge a vehicle's reliability on just 5000 miles. If it gives trouble in 5000 miles then it's a lemon. 75,000 miles is a good reliability mileage to be going on.

[@DampNoodles]

It is already having reliability issues tho, so.

[@44beebe]

More like 150,000 miles. If I have a major repair at 100,000 I would be shocked and angry. I have a 2023 silverado with 52,000 miles and I still consider it to be practically new.

[@ConsoleCombat]

@@44beebeexactly. If it’s having major issues before 100k, I don’t consider a vehicle reliable.

[@matthewgoedtel5998]

​@@DampNoodlesWhat issues?

[@ryen7512]

@Dampnoodles minor issues with trim pieces and the like are not "reliability issues". Tesla's will go hundreds of thousands of miles on the powertrain. I'm at 125k on my model 3 with no big problems.

[@jstar1000]

I would argue 50% or more of the people who buy and drive a pickup truck never or extremely rarely tow, haul anything or use or have a need a 4x4 but yet they buy them like they are going out of production tomorrow. The Cyber truck may not be for you or me for that matter but people will buy and love it.

[@kentworch]

I agree. A lot of people seem to have more money to spend than sense, and don't actually need or use what they get.

[@DewayneHodges-i9y]

Idk if i agree but im in that 50% that actually uses their truck to haul/tow

[@stephenzerfas5307]

Was going to say the same. I tow and haul regularly with my old F-150 so this Cybertruck does not work for me. The majority of the houses around me have a truck and rarely do they haul or tie anything, for them, this would work. It is a crazy design but it is amazing how much innovation is in it. Hopefully that innovation pays off dividends in future products.

[@Boss2133]

I agree. I towed 5 times when I had a truck 😂

[@kentworch]

@@jstar1000 To clarify, what I was getting at is that those who actually need or use their trucks and benefit from having one should get one. I'm mostly referring to the people that have 2 of 3 trucks sitting in their driveway and have never used any of them for more than commuting and getting groceries. I see that a lot of that and wonder why. I'd guess it's just an ego thing and having one just to have it. There are a lot of people like that. It's a free country and their money so they can do whatever they want, I don't see any sense in it is all I'm saying. I think everyone just follows the trend and the hype, and of course every business likes it when their customers buy something more expensive and they get to jack the cost up more.

[@zackzuback9518]

The only comparison that you may want to correct is the tractor pull ... The tractor pull was done with the cyber beast vs the dual motor for which you have used

[@stewartciesla8142]

Yes, and put some real off-road tires like most of the vehicles that do the tractor pull have on them, not all season tires.

[@terryinozland]

I'm gobsmacked that it was actually done and not a lie. Well inaccurate but they meant well. Mud tyres on this and redo the 33000 pds pull.

[@TheNinthGenerarion]

@@stewartciesla8142does the cyber truck have options for tires?

[@stewartciesla8142]

@@TheNinthGenerarion just an all season tire and a street tire.

[@TheNinthGenerarion]

@@stewartciesla8142 the more you learn about the CT, the more you learn why it’s not a truck.

[@mdhen4]

For the ways I intend to use it, the cyber truck is the best truck for me. It performs like a sports truck, goes off road, rides comfortably for long trips and can crash through brush. I haul brush, some lumber, garbage etc that the bed will do just fine with.

[@Xetairex]

What’s a ‘sports truck’? You are using words you don’t even understand. This truck has steer by wire, isolating yourself from the driving experience. It has air suspension, isolating you further from the drive experience. Electric steering, that isolates you further from the drive experience. This is as far away from being a sport anything. 😏

[@KenMcGeachy]

'This is our first electric truck right?' 'No, remember the Hummer?' Did they completely forget about the Lightening they took to Alaska...?

[@papasquat355]

Hilarious. The Hummer turning into a brick is stuck in my mind.

[@ryanbruckhart1284]

It’s has a fast 0-60 time, rides good with or without a load, only does good when or if the computer updates do come; needs charged fully after 85 miles under a full load; has a practically useless bed, you can cut yourself on the fingerprint marked and stained non painted or finished stainless body; has no headroom in the back seat; and is run solely on a large computer screen. This has nothing we need and is nothing but a truck for the rich who really don’t need a truck except to haul groceries in. To add to the fact it’s designed for no efficiency (aerodynamics) by a third grader, this truck may sell to some but to the folks who actually use a truck for actual truck things; it’s useless

[@thehonesttruth8808]

You can cut yourself? What are you, 5 years old? Do you ever use knives? Please stay away from those too…you would be better off living in a bubble

[@USMC6169]

Some of your remarks are not true. No head room? I’m 6’1 and my head doesn’t hit. Most vehicles nowadays have a computer to run your car and electronics. Just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not there. 90% of the people who own trucks don’t haul anything. As an engineer, I see a perfectly designed truss in the cyber truck, but you can’t see it can you? How do you think a F-150 size vehicle can carry a 2500 lbs payload? It can handle more, but they need longevity. Bridges use trusses. It’s way more aerodynamic than any raptor, dodge or ford. Rich? Have you priced an Escalade? $120k. Raptor$100k. At least it’s obtainable when it hits $80k for most people.

[@jdcarguy1242]

Don't buy one.

[@websitemartian]

quit huffing copium ... tiz bad for your health

[@JLP2224]

@@ryanbruckhart1284 I have a GMC sierra in the driveway with a bed that measures 69” long and 50” wide. The cybertruck parked next to it has a bed that measures 72” long and 48” wide. As an electrical contractor, I work out of my cybertruck just as I would work out of my GMC. I actually prefer the additional length. The only thing I miss about my Sierra is the multi-function tailgate. I swear most the people condemning cyber trucks dont have the slightest clue about them.

[@bvon336]

It’s not for me but that said I saw one wrapped in black the other day and it looked sharp. Kinda like Bruce Wayne’s lambo. If we’re honest it’s a fine “truck” for the 90% of truck buyers out there needs. Just like a ford maverick is more than enough for 90% of truck buyers. The idea that we need 3/4 ton diesel trucks to haul our far butts to work and back blows my mind. 90% of the trucks I see on the road (which is a lot as I’m a truck driver) are a sole person inside and nothing in the bed save a cooler.

[@Arthurian.]

Here, here! I was deciding between a Maverick & canyon. I went with the canyon as it's a savage v6 and NOT a turbo charged 4 banger. Anyone who says I need something else is just mad at life.

[@billynonofyourbusiness3434]

I drive a 2012 Ford F-150. It is my only vehicle. So yea, about 90% of the time it is just me in the truck. However, when I need to haul something, I've got the capability to do so. Also, the truck has a 36 gallon tank. So I have a 600 mile range on the highway between refuels. It's an excellent road-tripper and cargo hauler. There are even times when I can go 3 weeks without refueling when just doing local driving. Again, it is my only vehicle, with over 154,000 miles on it, and it is paid for. It does just about everything I ever need to do, when I need to do it without having to rent something else. I would consider a little EV for local driving if it was under $25k. No way would I ever spend over 30k on something with a limited range. Plus, I don't have the time to stand around and wait for an EV to charge when on a 400 plus mile trip.

[@JG-lo1vb]

I'm so tired of the 90% bullshit or the fact that you have a problem with people you don't know driving 3/4 ton trucks. The fact is you don't actually know how often they use their truck for "truck stuff", personally I don't care if it's 90% or 10% of the time. That doesn't change the fact that people buying a truck aren't going to buy the cybertruck for a variety of reasons listed and proven in this video.

[@OtisFlint]

@@JG-lo1vb We do actually know. Automakers study the market. 93% of half ton buyers will never tow further than 50 miles from home. The CT and other electrics are perfect for most truck buyers, assuming they can charge at home. Personally i tow a race trailer all over the region, so is stick with diesel for that, but my Tesla (car) is a fantastic daily. If i didn't race i'd have no need for ICE.

[@kx8960]

But a Maverick costs 1/3 the price, and doesn't have the shortcomings of the tesla...

[@sirhcmi3]

I’m thinking regular car washing products should be out and barbecue grill and refrigerator anti fingerprint products should be in… or a wrap 😂

[@CaliJerS15]

Car Wash Mode, please give them better credit.

[@jvaillancourt]

One of the big advantages of the Cybertruck is the exceptionnal size of the closeable/ lockable storage provided by the powered tonneau cover and the higher bedsides. This benefit would be greatly reduced if the bedsides were normal heights.

[@steverowe8431]

I'd like to see the short armed guy reach over the side of the bed of a full size pickup that would have to be lifted in order to compete off road with the cybertruck. And did he consider that he could lower the cybertruck in order to reach over the side.

[@richardnottelmann58]

That is great that the cybertruck has an emergency escape Lever, but it makes no sense why it is covered behind a black piece of plastic that you would not be able to see if you were locked up in that pitch black vault with no light.

[@whatskrakin37]

That's what I'm saying and without pre knowledge, you wouldn't know where or what to look for.

[@ChrisKellyPrime]

I believe it glows in the dark or there's a light inside

[@richardnottelmann58]

@@ChrisKellyPrime Someone should climb inside with a camera and no light to show that ability.

[@CF542]

That astonished me as well that it had no visible colors or markings. If you didn't already know it was there, you'd never escape.

[@smillman437]

It’s a piece of crap and these Cybertruck videos hurt TFL truck’s credibility. They give it credit for such mundane non-benefits. Steer by wire: there’s nothing inherent about having steer by wire that limits a vehicle to 360 degrees and having dynamic steering ratios. That’s a design choice not to have positive stops at greater turn counts. The low speed small-input mode should be something that can be adjusted to kick in at a certain speed that is user selectable. That would actually make it beneficial and take the unpredictability out of it. TFL seriously says this is the best off-roader electric truck. OK. But a nice differential does not a superb differential make. It’s ground clearance is nice but the wheelbase is very long, so it mitigates that specification’s usefulness. There is no shortage of videos of Cybertrucks being pulled out of pretty normal off-road situations. There is plenty of video of Rivians and F150 lightings not struggling with the similar conditions. Not to mention, you don’t verifiably destroy the other electric EV’s fit and finish the first time it gets wet, gets a finger print, or gets dirty. Tesla advises against parking the darn thing outside. This “truck” is a joke. Let’s run down the list of undelivered bought features. A useless rear view mirror. Useless sun visors. No grab handle on the “best off-road EV truck”. Useless bed from side approach due to body panels. Horrible serviceability because normal Tesla things, plus the bed and can are incorporated into each other. Tonneau cover that destroys rearward visibility. Useless towing range. It’s a novelty lifted sedan with horrid back seat headroom, a truck bed you can *sometimes* use without compromising safety, and (I’ll give it credit for one thing) impressive payload. So it’s basically like a lifted heavy EV station wagon that costs $100K. 🤮

[@danmorgan940]

I own a cyber truck and it works great for me. I can haul large things from Costco which is the extent of my truck uses. I use it like an SUV. If I am towing anything, it’s a short distance from home. I have a feeling most people that own trucks aren’t doing truck things lol. It’s more versatile than an SUV and it meets my needs. I spent 3K to install PowerShare and my CyberTruck can power my entire home including AC for three days or longer. That’s a lot of versatility.

[@kx8960]

Using the Cyberstuck to power your home in an emergency is the best use I've heard for the thing. In fact, screw the "truck", I'll just buy the battery...oh, and just hope it doesn't burst into STC ("Spontaneous Tesla Combuustion)...🤣

[@gamerfan8445]

You could just brought a Generator

[@kx8960]

@@gamerfan8445 🤣What??? You mean a GENERATOR?

[@gamerfan8445]

@@kx8960 yeah (Autocorrect is broken)

[@kx8960]

@@gamerfan8445 LOL Just busting yer ballz.

[@scanadaze]

Long ago when I worked in kitchens. We had a stainless steel spray cleaner. Back then. It worked perfectly. We bought it from Syco.

[@erics229]

Sysco satin shine. I washed dishes as a kid in the late 90's. We used it to clean the stainless in the kitchen. The stuff worked great.

[@scanadaze]

@@erics229 I cooked for 9 years. I quit doing it in December of 2003. Same time.

[@vinster8884]

Same stuff is used today.

[@scanadaze]

@vinster8884 It worked then and, as you say, still works. Cool. I wasn't sure if it was still on the market. Thanks.

[@collegepros]

I’m into watersports, and having a lockable bed space to put my wet, expensive watersports gear would be great. Right now I use my minivan for that stuff. Ideally, a long range electric van would suit my needs better.

[@TheNinthGenerarion]

The bed in the CT isn’t water tight and it has electronics components underneath the bed.

[@chiplangowski3298]

The wrap looks amazing! It is a huge improvement over the bare stainless.

[@bcluett1697]

It does! I wouldn't be surprised if people end up wrapping or painting theirs. I looked to the left for more videos and there is a channel with a yellow cybertruck in the thumbnail LOL.

[@zr2zamboni906]

Rivian has front charge port, so we don’t have to unhook our trailer to charge. Albeit, all EV trucks suffer from poor range while towing heavy loads (over 5K).

[@thehonesttruth8808]

Lol, how often do you actually tow? All trucks suck with efficiency while towing

[@kx8960]

...IF you can or are allowed to have the entire combined length sticking out impeding traffic. They really need to have drive-thru charging at least in some places.

[@gamerfan8445]

​@@thehonesttruth8808not really, I tow trailers, they do reduce the MPG, however it not alot. It not even mentioning that it easily to refuel.

[@michaelhess4825]

Air resistance is the problem, not so much the weight. Unless pulling over the Rockies of course.

[@bobbywalter5320]

​@@gamerfan8445 towing over 8k reduces fuel consumption generally 50 percent for most 1/2 ton rigs . The truck I got for my wife is a 2021 power boost. It gets 8.5 ish mpg pulling my bronco from Detroit to Moab. Empty average is 19.5 mpg which is awesome because it's always idling...but being a hybrid it does not eat nearly the fuel normal trucks do.. It gets 24ish unloaded cruising 75 freeway. ....it is awesome......for work I have a 22 7.3 Godzilla f 250 that averages 9 mpg. ..it's strange..it can approach 16 mpg in back road hill and dale 45 to 55 mph driving empty and the best it does is about 12.x freeway cruise.... towing the exact same load to Moab it gets the same 8.5 mpg as the power boost. But the power boost is way nicer to tow with....especially over ike and vail. Though 2.x mpg is what it pulls through there..

[@themisterchristie]

Likely the big reason it didn't do well at the truck pull is because of the tires. I watched the truck pull video before this and noticed that the tires on the Cybertruck are essentially street truck tires, while the RAM from that video had more aggressive off-road oriented tires. If you had similar tires the Cybertruck might have matched the RAM or possibly beat it. The tires prevented it from putting the power down on the dirt properly.

[@donaldliverance2597]

Keep it for a winter and head north to the cold and test it for a while

[@andersonnettleship845]

Edison Motors is working on a “Universal Kit” for older pickups and midsize trucks that will replace the ICE Drivetrain with Electric Axles, a modest battery, and an onboard range extending generator powered by a 2.8L R Cummins Turbodiesel along with the necessary inverters and other equipment. These trucks will truly be the answer for those of us that actually need and use our trucks. In the real world a pure BEV Pickup isn’t practical and is about as useless as tits on a boar hog.

[@Rottingboards]

Great to see something totally different on the road. WHAT? It's not black, white or black in color? What is has all new engineering? YES! It's about time we got something different on the road.

[@enigma9789]

Different and useful are 2 very different things.

[@Rottingboards]

@@enigma9789 Agreed, an all electric truck is not useful for a truck. But 60% of trucks on the highway are not work trucks. This is another run to Lowes, get the kids and groceries vehicle.

[@enigma9789]

@@Rottingboards I can understand that. But the Rivian is just a way better choice for all of that and doesnt look stupid with sharp corners.

[@Rottingboards]

@@enigma9789 Sharp Corners....We all have different tastes. If we didn't...we would all be with the same woman. LOL. I hate seeing the same damn thing on the streets. Like women...let's see some variety and different choices. 🙂 Hey, one might be fast one might be wide. lol

[@ctvxl]

All in all, it's not a bad vehicle overall, but not for the price. And I am an Tesla "fan boy". However, you can bet that this is the absolute worst version that will exist. I 100% guarantee you that the engineers at Tesla are already working on improvements. They move at lightning speed compared to every other auto maker. I would be willing to bet that within a few years, this design will be improved drastically over what you see today, and the price will eventually be less than a comparable ICE vehicle. I do feel that they rushed this one to market slightly.

[@r7cardosuarez806]

4 years late and still rushed. But since everyone wants Elons D, people still praise it. Pretty crazy

[@turdferguson2839]

The Raptor R and TRX are just as bad at towing and hauling as the cybertruck but nobody complains about them, a Raptor R only has like 8k tow capacity and maybe 1k payload capacity. The cybertruck is a novelty, just like a Trx or Raptor r but the cybertruck is faster and more comfortable than those trucks.

[@BF1-P]

Raptor R and TRX have a supercharged v8 that makes them million times more fun than the cyberjunk, not to mention they refill in 5 minutes and not in hour and half

[@superstu101]

Raptor R: 8,700 lbs towing 1,400 lbs payload Ratings are still low, but certainly not as abysmal as portrayed.

[@turdferguson2839]

@@superstu101 those are the maximum capacities, get a Raptor r with more options and the payload will be even less.

[@husshardan3511]

@@BF1-P supercharged V8s that are way slower. If speed doesn’t matter, why do the supercharging thing? You know what else is awesome? Plugging your CT in at night, waking up in the morning with a full battery. But I get it big V8 make noise go vroom vroom!

[@BF1-P]

@@husshardan3511 soul over speed every time, and yeah go have overnight sleep in a road trip every 100 mile

[@Hybris51129]

This has got to be the most honest and natural sounding video you guys have done in recent memory. A lot of your videos sound too much like a European car guy who has never set foot in a truck trying to review and drive a 1 ton Ford. This video has none of the confused and artificial amazement as well. It reminds me of the TFL truck video that made me subscribe in the first place.

[@stepha5926]

The stupid ads they put in it suck though, and *forces* me to give these bums a thumbs down. Like at 3:02 🙄 Drives me frigging insane.

[@Hybris51129]

@@stepha5926 Agreed their ad reads are terrible and frankly sound exactly like their normal videos.

[@20team73]

I finally filled up my gas tank like you folks advised. My drive to work n back home is about 76 miles round trip n usually eats quarter of a tank. But since i filled it like you folks advised i used half of a quarter tank. Big difference! Thanks guys. Love the videos!

[@albertatundra]

Without testing in the winter with extreme cold, this conversation is pointless.

[@jaxonmattox9267]

Uhhh no it's not, because the majority of people do not live in extremely cold places like North Dakota or even Chicago, about half of the US population lives in the sunbelt, and many more live in moderately cold coastal areas that don't have extremely low temps in the winter because the sea moderates the weather

[@VoidOneGamer]

@@jaxonmattox9267 Considering the warranty battery debacle, even a day of cold weather could be detrimental...

[@kx8960]

@@jaxonmattox9267 ....and the heat there negatively affects the battery as well, just not as badly as the cold.

[@jaxonmattox9267]

@@kx8960 Batteries are rated to 15% above their max, and most people lose about 3-5% of their range at 100f, so weather isn't a reason not to get an EV unless you live in Fairbanks

[@NischGTM]

such a played out ignorant argument.

[@zr2zamboni906]

Rivian is best EV truck off road, with true quad motor power and multiple modes. Rivian has hidden spare tire storage in the truck bed.

[@michaeljordan6090]

And the batteries typically have much better range

[@BigBilly7]

Rivian is awesome, except it looks like a Tacoma

[@zr2zamboni906]

@@BigBilly7 some might say that is a positive (#1 selling midsize truck). The headlamps are the most polarizing feature TBH.

[@gamerfan8445]

​@@BigBilly7okay so, it still a good looker.

[@razoraz]

Rivians overall are impressive. But did you see the video from the KZbinr who had someone dent his Rivian from the rear, right next to the taillight? He found out that the entire body panel for the side of the truck is all one piece, and it costs $37,000 to replace! That blew me away.

[@xandertreffers]

When you see car lovers talk about updates as if it's like updates on a computer or phone, you know something is wrong.

[@stallman655]

I think you nailed it when you called it a "vehicle". It's a truck in the way a Subaru Baja is a truck. This strikes me as an SUV with a small utility bed.

[@JLP2224]

I have a cybertruck and a gmc sierra 1500. My cybertruck bed is 72” long and 48” wide. My GMC Sierra bed is 69” long and 50” wide. A Subaru Baja bed is 42” long and 39.5” wide. I find the 3 extra inches of length more usable then losing 2” of width. As far as a Subaru Baja, it’s not even remotely close to being comparable. Just in case you were interested in accurate information 👍

[@Commentleaver-c6x]

Why does nobody ever test these in mud bogs or fording a deep stream?

[@rockyj2008]

That will never happen

[@Commentleaver-c6x]

@@rockyj2008 yeah I just don’t see a rechargeable vehicle ever being suitable for anything like that.

[@TheNinthGenerarion]

There actually are tests of it driving through deep puddles and in every case the CT is damaged, either plastic snapping or full on killing the truck.

[@Commentleaver-c6x]

@@TheNinthGenerarion I’m not surprised.

[@TheNinthGenerarion]

@@Commentleaver-c6x but don’t forget, it is supposed to be able to briefly service as a boat

[@apegues]

Nathan… Thank You for being Honest and not being afraid to speak your opinion. So many KZbin reviewers just spew B.S to make auto companies happy… it’s just disgusting.

[@matt3054]

One thing you forgot to include in "better than every other truck" would be low cost of operation, ownership, and maintenance (cheap charging at home on the daily, no oil or trans fluid changes or DEF or other ICE-associated upkeep). All the other EV trucks share this as well, but it's one category where all EV trucks are equally the best

[@Cloud30000]

Try comparing downhill Ike regen with cruise control on and off.

[@andrewvercillo7584]

Can’t reach in the back? Is your big reason it’s not a pick up? Try loading into a Super Duty? Bull

[@TroySavary]

I reach into the bed of HD pickups every day at work. Your blatant lies to defend this piece of shit are transparent.

[@matthewgoedtel5998]

Spot on

[@27Zangle]

They mentioned the bed tapering multiple times and even showed it hualing furniture with tons of wasted space. This is nothing more than a billionaire dinking around for giggles.

[@gamerfan8445]

​@@matthewgoedtel5998 depends on what superduty.

[@matthewgoedtel5998]

@@gamerfan8445 Which?

[@thedopplereffect00]

This just shows at minimum you need the extended range battery for towing.

[@mohammadsattar5488]

Can you imagine paying so much for a vehicle and saying oh yeah it has a few downsides to it but still being happy to carry on it

[@justmr.x3638]

Andre those are some cool shoes! What brand are they

[@Rottingboards]

As a Veteran, it is nice to see something that is not sucking gas, oil, and grease. Who wants to send their kids to fight in oil wars....not me.

[@justinlanglais9825]

Do you own one ????

[@Rottingboards]

@@justinlanglais9825 No, but id do own an electric car.

[@rmp5s]

Where does the electricity come from?... 60% is fossil fuels in America...all you're doing is burning fuel with a whole bunch of unnecessary steps. You don't speak for all veterans. Stop.

[@bwalker4194]

Where does the electricity come from?

[@rmp5s]

@@bwalker4194 Looks like my comment got removed for some reason...gotta love KZbin. I said the same thing. All EVs are doing for most people is burning fuel with a bunch of added steps. As a US Marine and Afghanistan war veteran, they don't speak for us all.

[@Duran102192]

Put a gooseneck to it and tow heavy like a Cummins or power stroke at last like 2500HD

[@FacuGonz3]

If you like pick up trucks but you don't use them as one is one of the best trucks, but that's what it is. Best vehicle in general? not so much because it's big and heavy , that's why it's good AS a pick up truck without using it as a pick up truck in general, just like a car.

[@smithleon]

i don't know this channel but i watched the whole video feeling like deep down they really liked the Cybertruck but didn't want to be too positive because they didn't think their audience would like it.

[@LF-du4uc]

Cognitive dissonance much?

[@scottbriscoe9097]

This truck rides every bit as good as my raptor R. It has a bigger truck bed, blows the doors off the raptor R at every speed the raptor r is capable of. Maybe it is because this is my first electric vehicle, but this thing is a blast to drive.

[@donhappel9566]

Bigger bed? Maybe on paper, but not in any actual usable metric as show here. Blows the doors off the Raptor...maybe on the street. What was the point of the Raptor R again? Oh yeah, going fast off-road in the desert. Guess what? Both of them are faster on the street than a Jeep Rubicon. Yet the Rubicon will go "faster" on a real trail than either of those (given that neither a CT or a Raptor will physically get to the sort of trail a Rubicon will). Does that make the Rubicon 'faster'? No, it just means you're comparing the wrong metrics. They summed it up well at the end. Excellent gimmick. Terrible truck.

[@BigBilly7]

​@@donhappel9566 oh you must have sold yours when KZbin gave you your opinion

[@scottbriscoe9097]

@@donhappel9566 Maybe it is because of the cybertruck is new, but it is a lot funner to drive around than the raptor. I have both of them sitting in the garage right now.

[@thehonesttruth8808]

100%…driving a truck with Ferrari performance that I don’t have to worry about getting dented and can haul drywall and slabs…yes please

[@jdwht2455]

@@donhappel9566 Every Raptor I've seen has that itty bitty almost useless 5'6" bed. Get one with at least the 6'6" bed, or, better yet a Super Duty with an 8'4" bed. And of course, get a 36 gallon gas tank and you will be set for about 700 miles without stopping several times (hours) to get to the next stop

[@ABach-ld2oc]

I am posting this before seeing this video because I wanna share a quick story. We just had Beryl pass over us in Houston. I was getting something from a store and on my way home, I saw one of these hideous thingys stuck in less than 1.5 feet of water on the road. I thought the shystertruck was indestructable? As I passed him in my new X5 driving slowly, all I could do was pass by the dude and just shake my head in sadness why he was just sitting there wading in the water.

[@ABach-ld2oc]

Now, back to my regularly scheduled youtube video.

[@ClayBellBrews]

So yeah, the lack of towing (RV) is a deal killer for me. I have high hopes for the RAM Charger, and I think the cybertruck would make a great robo-taxi but I’m not gonna make payments on some maybe-someday feature. Great job on the reviews, other than the occasional fake drama I dig the actual facts you guys hit up. (Yep, that was aimed at Roman).

[@alanlight7740]

I'm pretty sure they were thinking in terms of a robotaxi. Over 90% of vehicles on the road have a single passenger. Naturally if you want to build a robotaxi fleet you'll want 80% or so of your vehicles to be for one or two passengers to allow peak efficiency - but to do that you'll probably want 10% of vehicles able to haul an average family PLUS a good deal of cargo, including being able to handle Home Depot runs, while still being energy efficient for the majority of their runs that don't need that. You'll want it to be tough to deal with the fact that people don't treat stuff they rent the same way they treat stuff they own. Thus, Cybertruck.

[@googleuser6635]

The wrap looks good. The background music sucks and ruins the video. Just about every aspect of the cybertruck is a deal-breaker, for me. It would be a fail across the board.

[@user-do9ir8lv2m]

The only good thing going for this truck is the Panasonic (Japanese) batteries

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

Tesla makes those batteries

[@DylanE123]

The batteries used in the Cybertruck are Tesla 4680 cells.

[@allangraham970]

The cyber truck uses Tesla designed and made batteries. (4680)

[@PhillyEagles10]

As someone who likes performance, has SUVs and always wanted a truck for the occasional trip to Lowes or Home Reno without needing to tow anything.. looks perfect for me. And its 100% American made in Texas. Murica! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@Stackali]

i'm never waiting for features that i paid for. if they add a feature later that i didn't pay for, thats all good, but its bs to think that its ok to pay for something on the promise that its coming soon.

[@allangraham970]

Teslas are upgraded continuously. We used to only upgrading our vehicle by buying a new one.

[@stepha5926]

​@@allangraham970 but it's "upgraded" to the *thing you already paid for, but didn't receive!* 🤨 TRY to follow here: I buy a new Ford truck, and pay *$2000 extra* for 21" rims.... They deliver my new truck - *with 18" rims.* 17 months later, I take it to the dealer, where they "upgrade" my 18" rims to the 21" rims I paid for 17 months ago. 🤨 THIS is what you Tesla-riders sound like! How's that an 'upgrade'? You Tesla sheep are so sad.

[@soren777]

Yall need to add how long it takes to recharge them cause that is a huge factor into owning it, so not just the kwpm. You should start a new category how long it takes to recharge/refuel.

[@BlueDually4x4]

They have stated many times its 40min or more, in several videos at this point.

[@steverowe8431]

And also do the fueling cost comparison if you do home recharging for your daily driving. which is valid fuel cost comparison for most people who use their trucks for daily driving.

[@gsingh1660]

Gotta give it to tesla for taking a big risk and trying something different. It could be a hit but also a huge flop

[@jonathanhernandez4304]

I guarantee in 3 more years the verdict will be it's a flop. It's the new AMC Pacer which was popular for its unique look in the first year, but clearly was a loser. This truck is just silly.

[@joshuanorton6408]

Much better wrapped love you guys and your honesty on the vehicles that you buy thanks for the video

[@kencotton4645]

I'm hoping, but not very confident that Tesla will take all the feedback from customers to heart. If they continue to produce the Cybertruck as a lifestyle vehicle, I would love to see them produce a more conventional version for people to actually use as a truck. Please give them that feedback. Also, if I understand the Monroe teardown, there is extra room in the battery pack to increase the size of the installed battery without encroaching on the bed. That would be another great improvement in the vehicle.

[@starshipdriver8536]

31:30 That’s why you put your cybertruck in car wash mode.

[@rcguymike]

It should use the cameras to detect it's in a car wash and do it automatically 😁 Then send you a notification in the app saying car wash mode enabled and give an option to disable it

[@TheNinthGenerarion]

@@rcguymikeno that’s not disruptive enough, you’re not thinking innovatively

[@WW-wf8tu]

As a smart phone on wheels, it has some appeal. Unique design lasts for about a day. Then that charm wears off fast. Saying it is American made would be something to be proud of, IF it would rival the competition with quality build. Or luxury. Or reliability. Or usability. But it is just a toy. A very expensive toy.

[@stepha5926]

... or value for money. Or practicality. Or safety.

[@r7cardosuarez806]

Yeah, its more an embarassment that this is the most american made truvk 😅

[@rcguymike]

If a dual motor was actually $40k before incentives and they offered 0% financing/leasing I'd consider one... still doesn't really fit for families though, waiting on a useful 3rd row vehicle otherwise might just have to convert my '87 suburban 😅. It's the only thing actually capable of hauling with our 4 kids and a dog

Another great video, guys!!!!!

[@Shelbyj13]

That wrap actually made it look better

[@gregburns2391]

how does the truck drive and handle with 2 cubic yards of dirt in the bed????

[@sudeeptaghosh]

2500lb payload

[@Cloud30000]

The same as it drives empty; it’s already got a ton of weight down low from the battery, so it would hardly feel a bit of dirt in the back.

[@kevinbradley8613]

You ain’t hauling more than a yard, it wouldn’t fit more than that even if it could handle the weight… towed on a trailer… yes. Dirt is pretty heavy folks, especially if it’s not completely dried!

[@Abebe345]

Tows 11K and payload 2.5K

[@kevinbradley8613]

@@Abebe345 aside from the volume issue, 2 yards is gonna weigh at least 3,000 lbs… dry weight. It could easily pull 2-3 yards in a dump trailer, but I’d be shocked if it could fit more than a yard of material in the bed.

[@aussie2uGA]

Remember when the old timers would never trade their proven and familiar metal corded drills for the new plastic battery cordless models? That sentiment went out the window pretty quick and now everyone uses a Dewalt or Milwaukee battery tool on the job.

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

Uh ok

[@someonethatwatchesyoutube2953]

That’s not a good comparison AT ALL. Battery power tools batteries can rest on a charger until needed and then used to loosen bolts, etc.. so they’re more convenient than setting up your electric cord or air line. THAT’S why they were accepted by those of us that work on things. But they’re crap for any job that requires hard and heavy work. Oh wait..maybe you are onto something….😉

[@timothykeith1367]

I'll always use a corded tool when power is available - unless it is a quick task

[@danielkingshott2659]

Yep, this is like comparing a battery drill with a battery angle grinder. My battery drill is awesome, but the grinder just doesn't have the run time to compete with its cordered brother.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Yeah, except with a drill you can swap the battery for a full charged one in about 3 seconds when your first one runs out. I have like 8 Ridgid batteries and two chargers in my garage. And even then I have issues keeping my angle grinder running. 2 chargers cant keep up if I am using it for extended run times. Dont get me wrong, I like EV's. I own one. But its not a truck and these wont replace my truck anytime soon.

[@kelviskelvis7140]

Please keep this series on the CT coming. I love when you guys find flaws in a $100k vehicle that is not practical for the road. You guys are the best.

[@user-to2rf1rj5v]

13:10 it's not due to the battery, which is BELOW the bed. It's due to them wanting to design the wheel humps out of the bed. Which, in my mind, makes it far more useful.

[@ironcladranchandforge7292]

Hard use my arse. Get back to us when you've hauled cord wood out of the forest, and hauled a load of gravel, lumber, dirt, ect. Then after that, load a camper on the back and go camping a few times including a couple long trips. I've done all these things and more with my truck. Can that cyber truck thing handle all these jobs? I doubt it. It's a fashion statement and nothing more.

[@SteveEddy-od7fb]

EV stands for Excessive Vanity 😅😅😅

[@krisw8597]

Well stated! 💯accurate

[@leftcoaster67]

And an ugly fashion statement.

[@michaelhoskins832]

Actually saw a Cybertruck in the wild for the first time yesterday.(In passing,as my Mom and I were driving back to my apartment.) So strange- looking.. it seems like origami come to life in stainless steel.

[@TonkaFire2019]

Saw one too. Looks like shite compared to the modern vehicles

[@PorscheSpeedster-kz6nc]

Same here 3 days ago. They’re out there.

[@Gutztv07]

On the stream it looks cyber cool. In person it’s like a moving polygon Ps2 car driving, but that glare on the steel man oh man. I wasn’t excited seeing it in person.

[@PorscheSpeedster-kz6nc]

@@Gutztv07 A Black Brushed Stainless Steel wrap makes it look a lot better!

[@joew8440]

It’s such a stupid looking vehicle.

[@sxslayerxs]

5000 miles is now the durability test lol

[@nathanmcdonald610]

It is for a Tesla.

[@davephillips9389]

I remember several years ago the company there in CO that made the electric differentials that you could run solid axles with. Whatever happened to them?

[@kx8960]

Don't like the vehicle, but that's a badass wrap! Actually, I'd bet that's the EASIEST vehicle to wrap, all the surfaces are planes, no stretching the wrap over compound curves.

[@mpenlandmoto]

More utility and off road than a hatchback or many SUV. Agree it’s not a truck-truck for all use cases.

[@johnanchovie2b]

I like your review. Very informative and balanced! Thanks, guys.

[@mschmitz57]

Kudos to Nathan for telling it like it is.

[@nathanmcdonald610]

That's probably why we don't see him as often in the review videos anymore lol. Unfortunately these reviews have to be worded very carefully otherwise manufactures will stop sending test vehicles due to negative even if honest publicity.

[@IssaqAl-Ahmed]

Nathan is right on the money. As a truck, this thing just doesn't deliver. It is a novelty vehicle. It's like the Subaru Baja. That isn't to say it has no utility, but when put up against the yard stick of a pickup truck it just does not compete.

[@ericberman4193]

I want to see a Cybertruck with a roof rack loaded with irrigation pipe, lawn mowers, leaf blowers, bags of fertilizer, and empty beer cans clattering around the open bed.

[@HDHQDIRECT]

Some Tesla fanboy keeps posting in the comments that the Cybertruck is the best selling EV truck. Question is how would you know? Tesla won't tell you how many they sold. Their financial report last quarter has Model 3 and Y numbers combined and the other category was Other. Other means, Model S, Model X and Cybertruck and the total was 21,000. Only reason you would report like this, is if you are hiding something. No other auto manufacturer obfuscates what Models sold and how many.

[@dpav02]

You can go off of the number of the number of recalls. They recently recalled all of them. Which was 11,688. Something about the wiper motor.

[@jamesmartin7282]

Ironically, you can find out how many they sell based on a recent recall.😂

[@eddevoe2519]

@@HDHQDIRECT You can also tell my registrations for each state.

[@USMC6169]

Honestly, who cares? Tesla puts in $2B into its bank account every quarter after all bills are paid. GM? Ford? Stellantis? All negative, ie - more debt than revenue. Also, Tesla with $29B cash but only $9.5B debt. GM has ~$25.5B cash but 121B debt. Ford $34.5B cash but $140B debt. And vw has $85B cash but $203.5B debt. I’d rather have basically zero debt than not enough money to cover my debts.

[@paulbram2]

All I know is what I see with my own eyes. I probably see 10 Rivians for every Cybertruck, and that's being generous.

[@jeffhamilton9453]

This truck is good now, it only will get better with time as the engineers at Tesla always find ways to improve there vehicles.

[@wallyblackler46]

I love the show because it shows me how much people are paying for over priced trucks and I think of my old truck that I drive and I love my old truck more every day because of the show

[@brianscott1978]

Just wondering how wheel wells don't get in the way when loading the truck bed. Would you guys load a Raptor, Ford F150, and Rivian with the same stuff? Something like a 4x8 pallet of wood, or see how many bookshelves, or load a living room or bedroom worth of stuff into each bed and see how well they fit? Not sure if you've done a tow test on the Raptor, or off-road your main towing trucks? But seems like you are comparing the CyberTruck to all the other trucks specialties. How many of the other trucks are rated on every test? I've moved allot of wood and furniture and the wheel wells almost always get in the way, plus beds are getting shorter. Unless I want to add after market parts off-roading in a standard truck, sucks, and the only people I know that hall over 5000lbs on a regular bases, drive dually trucks, and suck gas. I agree towing long distance with a Cybertruck isn't the best, but how are you really comparing it to an average truck? Maybe after the $65k model comes out, that would be a better overall test to the average truck.

[@06colkurtz]

LOL it’s not a truck. It’s something but a truck it isn’t

[@patriot5526]

This truck is probably great for city dwellers and weekend warriors. It has plenty of torque to pull your boat to the local lake or river, or to tow a trailer to Home Depot to get what you need for weekend projects. And there is nothing wrong with that. You need to buy the truck that best suits your needs. If you don’t need more than 150 miles of range when towing, this truck is great for that. If you need to haul loads of 10,000 lbs and up for long distances, then you will need a gas or diesel engine truck, and there’s nothing wrong with that. Everyone has to get the truck that does the job they need, and we don’t need the government stepping in to tell us what we are allowed to drive.

[@dpav02]

I totally agree and I’m a Tesla fanboy. But I wouldn’t want to hot shot in a Cybertruck. Weekend warrior and Home Depot runs exactly fit my use case. I do have one “reserved” and I’m excited.

[@stewartciesla8142]

Well said! Bro. I just don’t get it! All these Tesla haters out there. One of the most American car companies in America but yet all these people want them fail. I just don’t get it?

[@thedopplereffect00]

Yeah, it's like complaining that a 20 year old Chevy S10 can't tow a giant camper cross country

[@LaughingPyrate]

@@stewartciesla8142 Agreed! I drive a Gladiator and have no interest in getting any electric truck. The Gladiator is what fits my needs perfectly. But if a Cybertruck fit's someone else's need, who am I to complain? I don't understand fanboy-ism, whether it's trucks, gaming consoles, or something else. Get what works for you.

[@gtileo]

That turn signal sound is the worst thing I've ever heard. It would annoy me to the point where I'd take it back. My brain hurts every time it was used

[@kore996]

Maybe you should compare it to a box truck since you have to roll up the tonneau cover which is equivalent to a rollup door AND you have to hop in to have full access. 😂

[@pierre.a.larsen]

Let's make a definition. If you are worried about bugs and fingerprints on a truck - then you are not a truck guy. Get a girly car with bling and glitter instead.

[@jstar1000]

That American flag wrap is totally bitchin.

[@jerrytalley802]

And, it’s kind of ugly, lol and wait until it gets in an accident! I bet the insurance rates are off the chart too? I just pray they don’t ban gas/diesel cars and trucks. I also hate beeping on newer cars. I love my 2011 Subaru Outback, no beeps, no screens to distract, manual switches to turn on the heat on my seats. THERE ISN’T ENOUGH POWER FOR MASSAGING SEATS, LOL

[@Vyeking]

I worked on cybertruck when it started with the RC builds, the QC builds, the MC builds and Production builds. I was a service technician at the factory, and these things are not something I would not buy due to the issues of the half shafts falling off from too much torque and the spline design that is bad. The tonneau has two bolts left and right that need to be adjusted.

[@meanman6992]

Their whole selling point isn’t doing truck things, it’s a look a symbol and it’s fast in a straight line…. It would do all of these things better as a car than a truck imo. That’s my opinion anyway because it sucks as a truck for what I want a truck for from my understanding.

[@kx8960]

100%

[@johnsodx]

TFL seems to be doing more and more of what they call in the TV world “clip shows”. When shows, especially but not exclusively animated shows, need to put a show together quickly and cheaply, they fall back on putting on a show largely consisting of already shown material. Seem familiar?

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

Yeah don’t watch

[@alwaysawn9110]

a few things, you forgot to mention that you needed to remove the aero dams from the wheel wells when you went off roading, but like your test with a truck aero dam, I would be curious how much efficiency you loose taking them off on the highway. you forgot to mention the downside to all wheel steering when towing a trailer, because you are correct it should disable itself in tow mode. you forgot to mention that the adjustable height hitch you have cant be used in the up position. for these and others you mentioned this thing is closer to an suv then a truck, especially with the roll cover closed.

[@ashleybunch9872]

So far no one has put a 14ft camper on it. And drive off road with it I wounder why

[@meanders9221]

Search KZbin for that, it's been done.

[@mattromain7177]

Saw one in person yesterday, the body panels had so many waves in them. It really looked cheap in person.

[@chriswilson433]

The Cybertruck has excelled at one thing: making easy profit for vinyl-wrappers.

[@bruceklassen8261]

Personally, I was so glad you guys did this review, I find your show to be factual truthful, and accurate reporting well done

[@furmanmackey5479]

I thought from the first time I saw one of those trucks (the infamous "This glass won't break" day) that it reminded me of another vehicle I had seen somewhere before but I could not put my finger on it. Last night, while watching a WWII documentary, it dawned on me that a certain German halftrack and the Cybertruck look a lot alike. I know I'm going to get a bit of blow back on that opinion but well....Look it up.

[@wilmarbarrick3194]

8:33 Soooo... basically you've "long tested" every truck except a Honda Ridgeline. A vehicle that's been around twice as long as TFL has been around?

[@patbrown463]

The Ridgeline is built on a car frame not a truck frame.

[@RDSZ]

Not a truck

[@justin_steen]

Pffft it’s a Hell of a lot more of a truck than the cyber truck

[@larryjohns8823]

​@@patbrown463 Question, does the CT have truck frame? NO! So it is not a truck😢

[@CF542]

This thing barely qualifies as a truck at all. It looks like some throwback to a 1980'3 sci-fi movie that I half expect RoboCop to jump out of.

[@petelattimer6808]

looks WAY better wrapped. although that wouldnt have been my personal choice of design, Tesla should have learned from the fingerprints etc issue from Delorean doing the same thing, and they should have offered wrapped/painted versions

[@scottgabbard662]

Another Tuber plated theirs and improved the process by accident mid-plating by polishing the steel first. 28K gold is OTT but different types of plating could make this a pretty striking vehicle. A blue chrome would be nice. Not a big CT fan but I don’t find it so polarizing and I’ve seen several and some of the wraps are nice.

[@outby50]

For many people, hardly all, the prime reason for a pickup truck is not utility. It's image projection. Cybertruck maxes out a certain kind of image projection for a certain class of people.

[@jstar1000]

The excuse you can't reach over the side of the bed to load is lame, my brother just but a Chevy gasser HD 4x4 and its so tall you can't load anything over the side either. Lower the suspension on the CT and see what a difference that makes bro. My son has a GMC canyon and the bed is so small its almost worthless so give me a break on those excuses.

[@RobertPitas]

Exactly - I can’t remember the last time I reached over the side of the bed of my F150, and that’s with just 33” tires, no lift or anything. And the bed shape is way better than the regular pickup trucks with their wheel arches that make packing the bed tightly a pain.

[@P-J-W-777]

I have a 250 diesel and can load over the side of my bed just fine. The difference is the way the cybersuck slopes upwards and you can’t reach every area the same way. Comparing a cybersuck to a canyon is stupid as they are very small trucks. Cybertruck freaks always complain when I compare them to my diesel even though they have 2 or 3 motors and are turned up to the max from factory and have air suspension but still can’t handle the same weight or get anywhere near the range and costs far more to operate especially while towing.

[@jstar1000]

@@P-J-W-777 I have an F250 and a Ram 1500 and no Cyber Truck. My sons new 4x4 GMC Canyon is huge for a mid size truck, its about the size of my daughters 2006 F150, slightly smaller but not by much.

[@P-J-W-777]

@@jstar1000 it was Claire to be the best truck in the world with top off the class towing and payload by Elon himself. Which has all been BS. I know 2 people that have owned them and they both hated them for what they are supposed to be. They said they were fun until that wore off and the. Got rid of them when they finally realized there are plenty of other trucks that do what trucks are supposed to do much better,

[@jstar1000]

@@P-J-W-777 Yeah well its the first year model and production it will improve, I would never ever buy a brand new anything the first or possibly even the second year of production but people will and some will regret it, that's just how it is. I'm not mad but I guess you are apparently.

[@smarticus6384]

It's not for me, but I am glad it exists. Innovations and moving the industry often require significant risks, and Tesla is not afraid to build something different from the status quo. I applaud them for that. I am unsure if SS is worth it, but it offers body panel strength that has not been seen before on a pickup. In my opinion, it requires a wrap. 48V architecture is essential for future vehicles as it reduces wiring and weight and adds efficiency. Steer by wire is probably the future of all cars; again, less weight and efficiency come from it. Regarding EVs, the unibody/structural battery pack produces vehicles with less weight and smaller battery packs, which will likely change how cars are built. So, as polarizing as this vehicle is, it's also a concept vehicle that has been put into production and will be looked back on as a catalyst for future automotive engineering.

[@alanlight7740]

It's been a while since it got much mention, but the stainless steel is not just about a rust-resistant and tough vehicle. It's also about spreading the cost of producing the new stainless steel alloy required for SpaceX's starship over a much larger market, in order to make space travel more affordable. They basically had one of their suppliers build a new foundry just to produce stainless steel for Tesla and SpaceX.

[@guigocn2]

I still gets baffled when you guys says that 2500lbs is a lot to haul. Where I come from, even the small pickups smaller than a Santa Cruz can haul such weight