After No Way Home - Where to Take Spider-Man Next

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Spider-Man: No Way Home was a huge hit for Marvel and Sony, but where does Peter Parker go next? In this video I talk about a few of the possibilities. From Venom and Kraven the Hunter, to Black Cat and more.
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[@captainmidnight]

Where do you think the next live action Spider-Man movie should go? The first 1,000 people to use this link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/captainmidnight01221

[@chasehedges6775]

Have Spider Man meet Venom.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Spider-Man.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

@@chasehedges6775 not in the MCU, yet.

[@Vibe1610]

Spider-Man gets caught up in mob activity. Kingpin, Hammerhead and Tombstone as villains

[@bobbysanders8715]

Cheese

[@DarkKnightofAnime]

I think realistically no matter what the next MCU Spidey film looks like it more than likely will be smaller scale but in a way that follows up with the emotional beats from NWH cause we do need somewhat of a decompression from the whole Spidey-Verses going haywire

[@oisinreilly2639]

You mean the story needs to be smaller scale compared to the multiverse storyline in NWH?

[@DarkKnightofAnime]

@@oisinreilly2639 well it’s just one of those things that feels like the next step now that he’s on his own As Cap brought up in the Black Cat pitch it could be about Peter just trying to find balance in his life and i feel just making it more street level could help Peter reconnect with both sides of himself

[@bxrlito9862]

@@DarkKnightofAnime in my opinion i like the tom holland spider-man movies more when they’re smaller scale and less reliant on big action scenes

[@Antwannnn]

@@DarkKnightofAnime toms spidey never had balance. not yet

[@oisinreilly2639]

Hmmm, well I have opinions on what you said there but I don't wanna start a fight so I'll keep them to myself.

[@cooldinom]

The daredevil pitch sounds cool in theory but honestly, this peter has had 3 films where he hasn't been completely alone superhero wise. In Homecoming he had Iron Man, Far From Home he had Shield, and No Way Home he had Strange and 2 other Spidermen. He needs atleast 1 film in this new post No Way Home world where he stands alone.

[@toasted_donut2308]

yeah. i want to see him struggle with his new life having nothing and no-one while having trouble with rent and college. this would tie in well with the black-cat idea were he considers forgetting Peter Parker and just being Spider-Man. would make a good story.

[@manasmishra928]

I think the next 3 flims will be very grounded and spidey will have to manage his shit by himself, he might appear in the big super hero collab of phase 4 though.

[@nicolasvanced3137]

You are going to rage when he shares screen with firestar and iceman on the next movie.

[@luciuszogratis9557]

@@ProtestantPerspective1517 Dude he meant Iron man’s involvement in the movie. Not the fking screen time. Holy shit. Spidey’s suit, Iron man saving his ass, and the final battle in the movie literally was on a shield aircraft or quinjet carrying Tony’s stuff.

[@tylermacready7199]

This is the business model. Sony gives Marvel Studios Spider-Man for event movies and Marvel gives Sony their characters for Spidey movies. They've given Iron Man, Nick Fury, and Strange so far, this trend will probably continue with characters like Daredevil and Fantastic Four.

[@Cookberg]

I agree 100% with Garfield officially being the Spider-Man for the Venom/Morbius-Verse. What better way to bring him back than to let him fight anti-heroes. His Spider-Man was much more “edgy” for lack of a better term, and he even says he stopped pulling his punches...so he is a less traditional hero and Venom is a less traditional hero/villain, so the good vs bad would be much blurrier and more of a shade of grey instead of black and white. It could be very interesting imho.

[@samuelbarber6177]

@@ToweringPepsiMan well Micheal Keaton is supposedly reprising his role as Adrian Toomes from Homecoming, so there’s that.

[@pizzaman231]

@@samuelbarber6177 he could be an alternate universe Adrian Toomes just played by Keaton

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

yep. That trilogy was literally darker too, so a perfect fit for Venom and/or Morbius. And maybe Hobgoblin at some point?

[@xnortheast1106]

That shit wouldn't even make sense since they're not from the same universes

[@xnortheast1106]

@@ToweringPepsiMan bro

[@MS-ik7ht]

As far as romantic interests other than MJ goes, I’ve seen a lot of people wanting a Gwen Stacy for MCU’s Spiderman, but I’m way more excited for the possibility of Black Cat being introduced (finally); she fits so well with the current theme of Peter diving in into his Spiderman side.

[@PenitusVox]

To be honest, it'd be a little weird for Peter to get with Gwen Stacy after Andrew's Peter mentioned her. If they *did* do that, I'd hope they would address that.

[@wayneshobbygallery]

Yes, Black Cat! She's worthy to stay for a few movies if not several, since she & Spidey had a flirty yet interesting relationship, like they start off as enemies then get infatuated with each other as time goes by. Until it gets complex when Spidey has another girl he loved like Gwen Stacy, thus setting up the love triangle.

[@tyclone6266]

its gonna be awkward as hell to have gwen stacy in the mcu, like whats peter gunna say "yeah you actually died in another universe falling down thru a clock tower while another version of me was trying to save you. and then i met the other version of me. Crazy shit."

[@thenotsoamazinggracetnsag3463]

@@wayneshobbygallery Yeah but isn’t she extremely older than him?

[@wayneshobbygallery]

@@thenotsoamazinggracetnsag3463 IDK about that, but I don't think Spidey cares. 😅😅

[@FlackNCoke]

Honestly I think some combination of pitches 1 & 2 would be the optimal follow up. Include both Daredevil AND Black Cat as conflicting allies who can come into Peter's life right when he's never been more alone. Whereas Felicia represents the idea of giving up his civilian identity, Matt can be a counter example, showing a world where you CAN balance both the world of being a superhero with the every day struggles of paying bills and having a personal life. Plus, in a lot of ways Felicia is Spider-Man's equivalent to Elektra, which would immediately inject some interesting conflict as Matt tries to prevent his new young friend from going down a similar path he did once. Also, Felicia's a criminal and Matt would not be okay with that... even though I'd probably have her on some sort of Fisk revenge scheme. Could be a really fun, twisty web of competing motivations and goals.

[@FlackNCoke]

I also really like the idea of introducing the MCU versions of the Osborns, or Otto Octavius, or even Curt Connors, someone that Tom's Peter knows from NWH becomes a villain in another universe, and having that knowledge drive him to try to prevent the same thing happening in his universe, only to lead to different consequences he didn't foresee (for example, he becomes so focused on not letting his Norman become the Goblin that he inadvertently causes Ned to take the formula instead, which of course would pay off that throwaway "I won't become a villain and try to kill you" line). It would be a fun way to play with the events of NWH while letting Peter's well-intentioned short-sightedness be his own worst enemy, which I think often leads to some of the most interesting Spider-Man stories.

[@Lord_Fruity]

Damn you’re good at this, I would kill to see a movie like this

[@dimitrescu182]

I like this idea of having Kingpin, Daredevil and Black Cat for 4 while 5 can then deal with the variants of Osborn or the others.

[@jrarroyo2856]

This is by far the best idea I've heard for the next film, it just sounds like the perfect place to take peter. He's obviously going to have an identity crisis.

[@wilhammartins9898]

add some bullets, kingpin, and we are good to go!!

[@nickclark1815]

If they do introduce the symbiote, I think it should be featured in multiple films. A big problem with Spider-Man 3 is that as soon as Peter gets the suit, he goes crazy. I’d love to see a slow descent where Peter becomes more assertive in his civilian life and more violent as a superhero. Peter would start to question his own decisions, and due to the dark place he’s already in, would not very quickly blame the symbiote. I think having Black Cat there to encourage his “wild side” would also contribute to his conflicting feelings. This would culminate in a situation where Peter almost goes too far, and Cat starts to fear and avoid him, yet again leaving him with nobody. No matter what, there are a lot of interesting places the next films could go, so I’m excited to see what’s next.

[@chengkuoklee5734]

It would be nice if Peter saved by MJ after he was left alone. Black Cat has interest only in Spidey, not Peter. Power of Love is old trope but in this darker story, that is exactly everything Peter really needs.

[@LoganLS0]

@@chengkuoklee5734 I think she shouldn't be brought back right away. Have her go off to MIT and let them get back together in the 3rd movie.

[@LoganLS0]

That's pretty much what I was thinking. Have an increasingly beaten down and isolated Peter become an increasingly unhinged Black Suit Spider-Man over 2 movies. All the better if it leads to a brawl with Daredevil.

[@deez_nutz_9669]

I don't want a Bully Holland

[@bastbo3225]

Sounds exactly like Spectacular Spider-Man (well not exactly but damn close)

[@matlmao3740]

I feel like there's a solid chance of Ned becoming Hobgoblin. Ned now has access to magic - something that hobgoblin has and uses Ned doesn't know peter or Spiderman, or any memory of the little "I promise I won't become evil and try to kill you" line. This means that he has no reason NOT to turn against peter and be coerced into becoming hobgoblin. I feel like that's what the writers were hinting at in this movie. Edit: also Ned Leeds is hobgoblin in the comics, so that parallel should be another pretty big giveaway if that’s what they choose to do

[@kyransawhill6650]

I've been thinking about how dramatic it'd be if Ned somehow did regain his memories of Peter (possibly through dabbling in his magic, given that was the source of the spell and all), but by the time he's able to reconnect with him, he sees that Peter has already started to build a new life and even befriended Flash Thompson (who wouldn't remember bullying Peter; plus, in the comics, they became best friends as adults), which makes Ned jealous and also resentful over the fact that Peter didn't uphold his promise to come back to him and MJ. He'd also feel like Peter was cheating on not just him as a best friend, but MJ if he ended up moving on (whether that be with Black Cat or some other love interest). All this would make him want to lash out, though I don't think it'd turn him totally evil or anything. So maybe he tries to teach Spider-Man a lesson as Hobgoblin or something and when he eventually finds out it's Ned, Ned asks him how it feels to be betrayed by his closest friend.

[@mrpillows]

There’s definitely potential there but I just can’t see Ned’s actor acting as a villain 😂

[@radrno7]

I think they could not make Ned be Hobgoblin but maybe his father, similar to Green Goblin but without making Ned's dad a total psycho asshole.

[@amelancholybear1534]

@@kyransawhill6650 The last promise he made is going to bite him in the ass. Absolutely. Ned's going to somehow remember, then he's going to come back as Hobgoblin. Hurt and betrayed. It'll have that proper Parker tragedy as well as that nice and well developed villain.

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

@@mrpillows me neither. I wonder what's the point of giving him the appearance of Miles' friend and the name of Hobgoblin, it makes no sense to me

[@atothetaco]

I think MJ shouldn't just get her memory back, but they build up their relationship again as somewhat strangers, maybe even with him setting more walls between Peter and spider-man

[@SquidSystem]

I feel like the idea of a relationship between MJ and Peter in this just couldn't work in a healthy way, Peter knows her too well and has too much baggage from the whole thing to reasonably be able to just have a relationship beyond maybe an acquaintance

[@taskforcekillah9722]

Nah leave that alone and don't retcon it period

[@jamesgarretson2922]

Peter re-getting to know MJ while she has no memory of him is really creepy imo. Either somehow have her remember, or just leave her out of it. You could easily just say she's at school in MIT.

[@thebadwolf3088]

Not now

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

@@jamesgarretson2922 why creepy tho? I get your point but she did ask him to find her and make her remember, and she's been made forget by magic, only to save the world. The problem is whether it's possible of not; if it isn't, then Peter's attempts to spark her memory would inevitable get creepy, I guess.

[@aidanshea5942]

I'd like to see Kraven the Hunter, but I see a lot of people saying it should be based off of Kraven's last hunt, which confuses me because you can't really have his last hunt also be his first? I think taking elements of it could be good but maybe leave Kraven alive for a Sinister Six movie later down the line

[@tobiaslawrence8928]

I would love to see that too if they bring in kraven they can also bring in punisher as well with the press from jjj of him constantly seeing spider as a bad guy it would be cool to see him as a threat.

[@grandmastercadillac9052]

People always say they want Kravens last hunt which makes me think they haven’t actually read kravens last hunt lol

[@tomtudorweaver1078]

Agreed. Spider-Man: Blue is what they should adapt if people want Kraven, that story basically reworks his origin and the way he's built up is great. Personally if they were to do Kraven I'd have a film with him and one other villain (maybe Scorpion or even his half-brother the Chameleon) then a Sinister Six appearance, THEN they can do Kraven's Last Hunt. That story only works if he and Spider-Man have a history.

[@ericstorm6582]

Obviously it would be his last hunt, because he's already hunted hundreds before

[@Zombiesnyder13]

AVI ARAD will ruin everything

[@TeganCantEven]

I’d love to see Tom Holland in a second MCU Spider-man trilogy, and Andrew Garfield as Spider-man in the “Sony villain” universe existing concurrently. Love the idea of Daredevil in the next Holland film and keeping the story grounded and comparatively low stakes; more of a personal story. And of course, it all has to lead up to Peter and MJ finally getting their happily ever after by the end of the new trilogy.

[@yohanneskiros9909]

I think that’s over and they introduce a Gwen Stacy

[@maxh276]

MCU MJ didn't really feel like a love interest lmao. I never got the sense of 'love', only nerdy friends. The best thing they did was right her and Ned off so Peter can finally deal with his own problems. I think a new love interest would be better, maybe an actual MJ named Mary Jane that they actually develop properly, or someone new

[@Im.Smaher]

@@maxh276 Yeah, they’re not gonna do that, lol. They made MJ’s last name Watson for a reason. Because she IS the Mary Jane of this universe.

[@antyep]

@@maxh276 I agree, but not Mary Jane. Maybe he meets Gwen Stacy, as well as Harry Osborn, in college, just like in the comics. But remembering Andrew Garfield's talk about how his Gwen died, and not to mention who Harry's father is, and that he doesn't want to put others in danger, Peter tries to avoid them. I like the Black Cat idea, of her trying to convince Peter to just let go of Peter and just be full-on Spider-Man, and unlike the comics, she's in a better position. I think one of the comments suggests Peter taking the symbiote suit, and that he becomes so violent as Spider-Man that it scares Black Cat is a neat idea. Maybe later, they *both* realize that Peter is needed.

[@radrno7]

@@Im.Smaher Eh, they could just introduce a new MJ and Peter go "oh I'm sorry, it's just that you reminded me of someone", like a little emotional nod to her.

[@bobbybadfellow2]

Strange’s spell stated “everyone in the world” I think Nick Fury still remembers Peter since they made a point to say that he is “off world” of corse this would include the Guardians and Thor but I think Fury is going to play a big part in the next Spider-Man film.

[@antjack6192]

And captain marvel…..hey Peter Parker I think returns

[@arcanelight8365]

I think everyone in the universe is the right term

[@erikgain1294]

I hope he doesn’t I just want a Spider-Man movie without shield

[@goldenhorse4823]

I was kinda thinking the same Fury seems like someone who would have a plan if someone whiped his memory even.

[@layton1362]

I really like the second pitch, especially the "Focus more on Spiderman than Peter Parker" bit would mirror Homecoming pretty well. I just think it needs a counterweight. A reason for Peter to say "No, I need both Spiderman and Peter Parker!" And to me, there is no better reason for this than MJ following through on her promise to find him again. That has some jucy potential and adds a lots of pay-off to the last few minutes of No Way Home.

[@sugaryheaven4089]

Why would you want boring Michelle back? Peter has countless other love interests who hasn't been on the big screen yet

[@gondalfthewizard]

Seeing a reverse Spider-Man 2 would be great Make him stop being Peter Parker for half the movie and then find balance

[@SUKADIK4]

Only the uneducated and or delusional ones thought this movie was good when clearly it was not if you were paying attention to it lol. Kevin Feige manipulated a lot of idiots to go see this garbage in theatre’s and robbed them taking their money lol. Glad I watched this at home for free🤣. This movie is a👎👎👎. Mess up number 1, it’s 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can take that box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this movie around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious. It drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any since. Previous Spider-Man movies was way better than this garbage🤣

[@FredGreen182]

I think a combination of all of these could be where spidey is going. 1- Spidey with Symbiote and teaming up with Black Cat 2- Spidey Letting the symbiote go and teaming up with Dare Devil 3- Spidey Fighting Venom But if one of them were to happen I definitely like the 2nd one better, I love the grittiness DD had in the netflix show and don't know how well they could translate that into a Spidey movie

[@tomtudorweaver1078]

They could combine some of those as @Andrew Flack said. He could get the black suit in a film where Kingpin's the villain and is after Black Cat for robbing him like she did in the Ultimate comics. Black Cat and Daredevil could both be in the film and each serve as the angel and devil on Peter's shoulders (with Daredevil ironically being the angel). Plus Peter with the black suit could allow for the obligatory two heroes fighting during their team-up between him and Daredevil.

[@nanabonsu2349]

Daredevil is one of my favourite shows and as much as I would love to see him on the big screen, I'd rather not see him than see him in the goofy tone of a Spider-Man movie. If they do include him I really hope they bring the Spider-Man movies down to DD's dark and grittiness or at least a halfway point

[@JoeLoquacious]

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[@SUKADIK4]

Only the uneducated and or delusional ones thought this movie was good when clearly it was not if you were paying attention to it lol. Kevin Feige manipulated a lot of idiots to go see this garbage in theatre’s and robbed them taking their money lol. Glad I watched this at home for free🤣. This movie is a👎👎👎. Mess up number 1, it’s 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can take that box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this movie around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious. It drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any since. Previous Spider-Man movies was way better than this garbage🤣

[@Michelle-do1ui]

I love that Toms 1st trilogy was actually his origin story now he’s alone no friends no family no help no special suits nothing but him and his abilities the possibilities for him are endless in the next trilogy

[@youngm.a.r.s2614]

U gotta add his appearance in Civil War and The Avengers: Infinity War & End Game as part of his origin story too and also the whole arc of Tony Stark/Iron Man mentoring him as well.

[@Michelle-do1ui]

@@youngm.a.r.s2614 100% I thought that went without saying

[@damienhine1861]

The end of the film gave him a fresh start, no MJ, no Ned. Stick with it. Let him be a hero who stands on his own two feet. Next film, give him a villain which tests him personally, someone who hasn't been captured on film before (Kraven the Hunter?). More importantly, introduce some new characters who can be by his side in the next part of his story. I'm thinking Gwen Stacy (not Spider Gwen, yet) and Miles Morales. Tom has spent the majority of his movies being mentored by older heroes. Let him be the mentor now, to Miles, so that he can be a more influential figure in the MCU later, no longer a young pup but a rising leader. Let's face it, Spidey and Doctor Strange are the biggest stars in the MCU now and possibly the most popular characters. If they want to keep building the MCU to have big, influential movies in the future, it'll be those characters who need to be brought into central positions previously occupied by Iron Man and Captain America. They've tried doing it with female characters - Captain Marvel, Kate Bishop, Yelena, Shuri, the list goes on - but none have stuck as much with fans as those Spidey and Doctor Strange yet. Hopefully it will happen one day. Maybe Ms. Marvel will be the one to do it.

[@evindrews]

Dude I think a mentorship plot would be great. Peter roughing it but has someone he has to parent.. Also I think people want a small scale film, but I think given that Spidey is the face of the MCU right now, he needs to become sort of the next Tony Stark.

[@BattlestarZenobia]

The problem is if it’s okay for him to have friends again why would he not try to reconnect with his friends?

[@GoTfan-eb8tk]

Tom Holland's said he doesn't want to come back unless the old group does as well, so . . .

[@BattlestarZenobia]

@@GoTfan-eb8tk yay!

[@Batman-jq9jq]

@@BattlestarZenobia youre kinda right tbh

[@izzy1349]

I completely understand the thematic purpose of having Peter leave MJ and Ned alone, but I also think the fact that Spiderman's loved ones stay despite their torment is just as important as the fact that they do get hurt. Spiderman inspires people. And peter needs the human connection to give him a reason to keep going. I want to see ned become a magic based Hobgoblin that hunts spiderman because he feels the mist and void surrounding Spiderman in his mind. Peter would have to not only deal with the trauma of fighting Ned, but also the fact that his best friend doesn't remember him

[@evindrews]

Yup i think it would be the wrong decision for these films to cut off Peter from any friends. I think MJ and ned will return

[@wayneshobbygallery]

@@evindrews That may be, but it's best if we put them aside for now. Since this is an entirely new trilogy with an entirely different tone, it's best if they introduce MCU Black Cat, MCU Gwen Stacy, the MCU Osborns, MCU OsCorp, Fisk Tower, MCU Alchemax, MCU Miles Morales (he's been name-dropped in Homecoming) maybe MCU Mary Jane Watson, u name it.

[@thesuperframe]

Love the idea of daredevil, kingpin and the gang/street side being the focus of the next movie with a follow movie up focussing on venom, all whilst developing new love interests and side characters like the black cat Think our idea for a sequel involving scorpion and kingpin is pretty similar

[@IcyDiamond]

Do you wanna hear my Spider-Man 4 pitch?

[@SKMP]

@@IcyDiamond Proceed

[@IcyDiamond]

@@SKMP Here it is, btw Hawkeye spoilers ahead Spider-Man Public Enemy • The movie would start on Christmas Day, Peter is alone in his apartment watching the news on what had happened yesterday, apparently Hawkeye and some young girl had stopped the tracksuit mafia, Wilson Fisk was presumed dead and a black widow was hunting down Clint. The news reporter had asked where was Spider-Man was during this and Peter just whispered to himself saying he was busy stopping another crime during this fiasco. But Peter then turned off the news because it just made him feel worse about himself than he already did, so he walked out of his apartment room just going up and down the halls. But then some buff guy notices him and says “Hey, you going anywhere? Because if not you can come to my Christmas party.” Peter looked back at the guy and says “Sure I guess?” And he goes in there and has the time of his life, that’s until Mr. Ditkovitch (Played by Elya Baskin) walks in and asks Peter his rent, Peter gives it to him and then the title pops up. • It flashes forward 6 months and things are going better for Peter, he’s friends with the buff guy who’s name is Eddie Brock, he’s a pro football player and he’s on his school’s football team as the star player. Peter also meets a new friend in a lab partner named Miles Morales. Things are looking up for him. He’s fighting crime as usual, mostly just petty thieves, in fact thanks to him the crime levels are going down majorly. However the crime just keeps coming, almost like it’s organized to some degree. Then a man in an impressive military suit comes out, this suit comes equipped with a tail and everything, and the tails shoots shockwaves out of it. • This villain calls himself The Scorpion, and him and Spider-Man battle it out in the bank he’s trying to rob, Scorpion ultimately gains the upper hand on Spidey and he loses. J Jonah Jameson reports this on The Daily Bugle as him and Scorpion robbing the bank together which Peter hates. Spider-Man goes to the police and talks about Scorpion, they reveal that the name of the thug is Mac Gargan and he’s using a new military suit that was stolen, they don’t know where the tail came from though. And with The Scorpion now on the loose, more and more crimes are being committed by him, and Spidey just can’t stop them no matter how hard he’s tries. He’s getting constantly annoyed, The Scorpion is constantly eating at him, he can’t hang out with his new friends anymore because he’s to preoccupied with The Scorpion. This leads to his friends getting annoyed at him. Peter decides to sit on a bench in the park when it’s dark out to get his head in the game more, but then he sees a black goo going towards him. • Peter tries running from the black goo but it catches up to him and attaches to his body and he runs home terrified, he immediately goes to sleep and has nightmares about the previous traumatic things that have happened to him. Peter walks up to see that gooey thing coming out of his arm smiling at him, Peter yells! The symbiote tells him to stay quiet. He explains that he’s been looking through Peter’s memories and that explains all the nightmares he’s been having. Peter asks why the symbiote has been following him. The symbiote explains that he comes from another universe and that through the symbiote hive mind, he knows many symbiotes bond with Peter Parker and he thought Peter would need him at this time. The symbiote also explains that he wants to start eating people to sustain him but if that’s to gross for Peter, he can just eat chocolate bars to start. • Eddie walks in concerned for his friend and the symbiote quickly hides and Peter covers it up explaining that he just had a bad nightmare, Eddie leaves the room but not before giving Peter a hug telling him everyone would be okay and then Peter goes to school. After school Peter and the symbiote go to train in an abandoned warehouse and Peter can’t believe all of the new upgrades he gets from the symbiote, even a cool new suit, so Peter decides to take himself out on the streets and he can’t believe how easy he can beat up these criminals now, he can do it 3 times faster, plus he heals even faster thanks to the symbiote, overall him and the symbiote have basically become best friends. • And now thanks to the symbiote Peter’s life is much better as he can now balance crime fighting with hanging out with his friends well, but one thing still annoys him, J Jonah is still slandering his name and the symbiote provides Peter with an idea. Peter as Spider-Man goes to Jameson’s office and threatens him, Jameson remarks that he’s never seen Spider-Man act this bad before and that this is most likely an imposter Spidey, to which Spider-Man and the symbiote remarks “We are Spider-Man.” • Now Jameson is singing nothing but praise to Spider-Man and the experience certainly have Peter a rush of adrenaline and starts to get a bit more violent with the criminals he beats up, in fact he saves this one kid who’s a huge Spidey fan but when he sees Spider-Man brutally beat someone up, the kid starts crying, and Peter just swings away sad. Also the symbiote has encouraged him to stay away from his new friends as he knows why he left his previous ones behind. As a result the symbiote slowly becomes Peter’s only friend. Also the symbiote starts encouraging Peter to start killing people and that’s he’s tried of just eating Hershey’s chocolate bars. • And then one day The Scorpion reappears and starts committing another petty crime, he explains he was training some more as he saw Spidey had made himself more powerful, Peter explains to the symbiote that they have to get this done with quick because it’s Eddie’s birthday today.mthdy have a fight and while Spider-Man almost wins, Scorpion kicks him away with his tail just in time and quickly runs away, Peter annoyed goes to Eddie’s birthday party and is very angry during it. Eddie asks why Peter is so angry and him and Peter get intro an argument which results in Peter punching Eddie in the face giving him a significant black eye, feeling ashamed he runs away. • He goes to the top of a bell tower thinking about what he’s done to everyone and how he’s becoming to far from the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man he once was. He decides to tell the symbiote that they are splitting up, however the symbiote won’t let him do that but when Peter tries to force him off the bell tower he clings the bells together which hurts the symbiote, Peter finds out the symbiote is weak to sound so he uses it to detach himself from it, after that he goes home and apologizes to Eddie. However Eddie is still understandably pissed at him. • The next day Spider-Man starts being a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man again. And people see that the old Spider-Man is finally back. But then The Scorpion reappears later and Spider-Man decides to let him catch him in a relatively open area, he leads Scorpion to a football field where they battle it out and Spider-Man finally rips his tail off. But just then a football team comes out and Eddie is there to as he’s part of the team! They keep fighting but Scorpion throws some of the players around but Spider-Man catches most of them, except Eddie who breaks his left leg pretty severely. But despite that Spider-Man beats Mac Gargan and breaks his suit, after this Mac goes to prison. • Later Peter and Miles see Eddie in the hospital, Eddie is glad to see Miles but not necessarily Peter since he’s still mad at him. The doctor comes in and tells Eddie that he can never play football again, even after his leg heals. Eddie tells Peter he’s annoyed at Spider-Man and that if he could ever get his hands on him, he would get revenge for him saving everyone on the team except him. After this Spider-Man goes to Jameson and apologizes for threatening him earlier and he says Jameson can have any opinion on him he wants. After that Spidey swings away from the Daily Bugle with triumphant music and the movie ends. • Mid Credits Scene: Mac Gargan has escaped from prison with the assistance of hired muscle, and he says sorry to his boss The Kingpin with an eyepatch on, Kingpin says “I really thought you could stop the Spider-Man from making me lose money, but I guess I overestimated you.” Then Vulture flies down and says “Gargan do you know how much I had to steal to get that to work.” And we see a lot of Vultures old crew like The Tinkerer now rocking for The Kingpin. Gargan explains that he’s sorry and that next time he gets the opportunity, he’ll kill the Spider-Man. • Post Credits Scene: Peter and Miles are getting ready to see Eddie in the hospital while Peter is watching the news, they’re talking about some rich guy who’s been helping people post blip and is rising up and making his own company. Peter says to Miles “That guy seems pretty admirable not gonna lie.” And then the news reporter says “And who is this savior, well his name is Norman Osborn, and he’s gonna start a company called Oscorp.” Peter remembers the name and gets terrified thinking about how this guy from another universe killed his aunt, Miles then asks if Peter is okay and Peter says he’s fine. And so they leave the apartment.

[@dominiquepowell3158]

I take it.

[@JoeLoquacious]

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[@Alessandro-vv2fh]

The "Cat and Mouse" pitch is brilliant. I'd like it to take that direction, even if I don't necessarily agree that Kraven would be the most appropriate follow-up thematically.

[@belgiumcomics2537]

I think that in the next Spider-man movie we can have a new supporting cast. Maybe even a new love interest for Peter.

[@sugaryheaven4089]

@@bunny_rs-6137 They are the worst and so shallow

[@EliteNormie]

I’m so fucking sick of love interests dude I just want Peter to suffer in loneliness and take photographing gigs up with the Daily Bugle to make ends meet. Maybe get tossed up a little by villains.

[@youngm.a.r.s2614]

I want a new Harry Osborn and a Black Cat since Gwen is/was Andrew's love interest and was already mentioned in NWH. And although Harry was referenced in NWH, his full name wasn't mentioned. I feel if they introduce Harry, his last name shouldn't be revealed to Peter until maybe later on in the trilogy sort of like MJ who didn't reveal her last name "Watson" till NWH. I wouldn't mind if they don't reveal his last name at all and just refer to him as just Harry and don't even have a new Norman Osborn in there because of the Norman in NWH.

[@belgiumcomics2537]

@@youngm.a.r.s2614 I want Black Cat in the MCU too. She was exactly who i had in mind when i said new love interest.

[@AvengerVincent]

Me personally, I can see all three playing out in some shape. I think having both Black Cat and Daredevil in the same movie would be great because that's two street level heroes Spidey can get along with. I'd especially love to see a version of the Sin Eater storyline play out since that was the story where Peter and Matt revealed their secret identities to one another. After NWH, MCU Peter really does need a friend who knows both sides of his life, and Daredevil and Spider-Mans friendship is something I miss and wanna see on the big screen

[@nahor88]

If they have Black Cat I just want her to be sexy and muscly like the cartoon. XD Have Tom Holland react to her muscles just like cartoon spidey LOL. We still haven't really had a prominent female hero that actually has a superhero body, at least in film. In the TV shows yes. Speaking of which, Caity Lotz would be a great choice! For WW/Justice League they got some female athletes to play the Amazons but they were background characters/extras.

[@justinh4576]

Whatever they do, I just hope Holland comes back for a new movie. He has by far the most intriguing story going forward and I can’t wait to see him just figure all that shit out.

[@channelname4331]

hes confirmed

[@dog8438]

MCU Spider-Man 4 is now confirmed. MCU Spider-Man 5 and 6 aren't necessarily confirmed yet, but Sony said that they're open to it.

[@SUKADIK4]

Only the uneducated and or delusional ones thought this movie was good when clearly it was not if you were paying attention to it lol. Kevin Feige manipulated a lot of idiots to go see this garbage in theatre’s and robbed them taking their money lol. Glad I watched this at home for free🤣. This movie is a👎👎👎. Mess up number 1, it’s 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can take that box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this movie around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious. It drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any since. Previous Spider-Man movies was way better than this garbage🤣

[@rohithkumar8708]

@@SUKADIK4 oh nice. you threw bait in multiple threads. nice strategy

[@channelname4331]

@@SUKADIK4 why do you copy and paste this everywhere? youre clearly just trying to get a laugh by saying objectively wrong things; let me tell you - NO ONE thinks this is funny you're a complete weirdo

[@heitoraraujo3]

I'd love to see Black Cat and the MCU Spidey post-NWH together, it would perfectly set a new tone, and I think it could work together with your first idea. Maybe Kingpin could be the main antagonist of a new trilogy, but acting in the shadows, scheming, using his henchmen. He could be behind Scorpion, but also behind Black Cat, maybe as a plot to earn Spider-Man's trust and unmask him, only for them to eventually find out that Peter is basically a ghost. Felicia could turn on Kingpin, or maybe they all would unite to fight against a Scorpion driven crazy by his mutation, which coulf itself be related to Spider-Man, maybe in this version the serum he took was made with Peter's DNA.

[@morienforeshadow4553]

Personally I think the symbiote could play very well in the Black Cat and Kraven option. Since Peter is just stuck with a handmade suit now, we could even have scenes of him complaining about having to constantly patch it up after a few altercations with Kraven. And so, once he bonds with the symbiote, it actually drives him further into abandoning the whole 'building up his life as Peter again,' as the symbiote corrupts his mind and makes him aggressive towards Kraven.

[@jakeselig7410]

Love the Daredevil idea and Black Cat being introduced to help Peter realize that just being Spiderman is the way to go after the events of No Way Home

[@hunterlawrence3573]

Something small I would like to see is Peter meeting the MCU's version of Harry Osborn and Gwen Stacey at his college. He could recognize the names "Osborn" and "Gwen" based on what he learned about the other universes in No Way Home, and put two and two together and realize he's talking to his world's version of Norman Osborn's son and Peter Three's dead girlfriend. He would panic and run out, leaving them both very confused. By the end of the film he'd have learned to open himself up again and begin rebuilding his life as Peter Parker, it could end with a brief scene of him befriending Harry and Gwen

[@unicorntomboy9736]

What about the MCU's version of Oscorp. It should be written in that it was founded during the Blip after the events of Avengers Infinity War

[@Dalton_stuff]

@Greg Elchert maybe they could introduce oscorp later

[@hunterlawrence3573]

@Greg Elchert It’d be interesting to see a version of Harry where Oscorp doesn’t exist. I’m not sure if Norman meant Oscorp had never existed in the MCU or if it did at one point but was gone by the time NWH takes place. Either way, the MCU version of the Osborns are a little different from the ones we typically see.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

@Greg Elchert They should have written it like this: The MCU Norman Osborn was not blipped by Thano's Snap )even though his son Harry Osborn was), and so he took advantage of the 5 year depression to quickly and decreetly make a ton of money and found Oscorp to rival Stark Industries from help from The Kingpin. By the time a hypothetical Spider-Man 4 movie takes place, the now-large and powerful Oscorp Industries is nearly ready to acquire Stark Industries and its assets, which has suffered and weakened due to no longer having Tony's genius and visionary leadership to guide the company. So Stark tech is rebranded as Oscorp tech. Meanwhile, Alchemax (the evil corporation that reaches its height of power in 2099 when Miguel O'Hara is alive) is founded at some point after the events of Avengers Endgame, but that's a whole other story for another day

[@theobuniel9643]

@Greg Elchert What if the reason why Norman freaked out about Oscorp not existing.... _was because Oscorp wasn't headquartered in New York in the MCU?_

[@Beavis-ej3ny]

Now with Peter having a slate, here's what I think: I think Peter may hang around Ned and MJ, but I have a feeling they might not hit it off in the same way. Peter can't catch lightning in a bottle. This may lead to Ned being some sort of Hobgoblin, but what I think is that Ned would be, "The Guy In The Chair" and would basically control the Hobgoblin. I think it would make a lot of sense to include the Black Cat, as a new love interest for Peter. That, or maybe it's another love interest, like Betty Brant or another Gwen. But for the first movie at least, he's probably gonna fly solo.

[@mariexx8772]

Considering that the symbiote first connected with Deadpool, canonically, I think it'd be a great way to introduce Deadpool to the MCU. I also think that the best route that the MCU can take now is to make a Spider-Man show instead of a movie, he's got a white card, there are so many things that could be done in a show with like 6-8 episodes. It could give new characters gravity and space to breathe. But I'd be so on board with DP or DD entering the MCU, nothing better than Team Red.

[@thisbubblygoodness7611]

wait how did deadpool wear the symbiote before spider-man?

[@MeatOfJustice]

They're giving him a show but it's a prequel

[@TheMiles65]

I'm hoping that whenever they do the symbiote arc, it's more than just one film where Peter gets the suit, and by the end of it he's fighting venom. Maybe have him get it in one movie, and we see a more fleshed-out arc. Black cat is introduced and pushes him into leaving his Peter Parker life behind in addition to the symbiote influence and by the end of the second film we see his personality begin to change and maybe the suit changes to reflect that (that concept art that was recently released could be this suit as it takes over peter), he realizes this (maybe after almost beating one of his enemies to death) and comes to his senses. Perhaps by the end of the trilogy, we get the birth of venom and the fated battle between them. Since the MCU typically tries to do stuff differently from what we’ve seen in other Spider-Man movies, I think this is very likely. I feel like him getting the black suit could work fresh off of NWH, but also have my reservations. For example, he could start to rely on the suit since he doesn't have access to stark tech anymore and wants more power (Maybe this is during his fight with Kraven and he feels outclassed). But at the same time, it kinda rehashes Homecoming and Tony's famous quote while also kind of downplaying Peter a bit, so idk if it'd be smart.

[@toosavage5412]

I love this

[@JoeLoquacious]

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[@robertwild9447]

I know this is a long shot, but what if we get to see Mac Gargen as Scorpion in the next film, then after we see Tom Holland with the black suit, Mac Gargen becomes venom at the end of the trilogy? By that point venom 3 will have come out and Tom Hardy will probably be done playing the character. This way Sony gets to complete their venom trilogy AND have a new, evil venom for Tom Holland's spider-man to fight. Michael Mando is a phenomenal actor, and I really want to see him get to play The Scorpion. After that, why not also Venom? Mac Gargan was Venom at one point in the comics after all. I know this is highly unlikely, it's just an idea.

[@fraezma]

I would love this, its a shame Marvel is always in a rush

[@TheMiles65]

@@fraezma idk about that. They held off on Thanos for 10 years, I wouldn't put it past them to make a Symbiote Saga over the course of 5-7 years. Now Sony is a different thing lol. They're definitely a wild card and could ruin everything like they’ve done in the past

[@taha_boy]

I actually think you can do the Symbiote one with black cat. It ties really well into the idea of feeling like Spider-Man is more important and Peter should only focus on being the hero. Black Cat further encourages this while Daredevil cautions against it because Matt knowns the importance of being a hero and a friend and then after losing to Kraven first, he then realizes he can do without the Symbiote. Then you can do Venom in the next film

[@Kintaku]

I’d be curious to see if Garfield gets more roles as Spider-Man. I recently rewatched his movies and even though they’re my least favorite of the movies I still really like his take and enjoyed seeing him play against the other Peter’s. I think his Spider-Man fits the tone of the new Venom the best too so that could honestly work.

[@ivancubacub531]

All of these solo movie pitches are good! I can't wait to see more of Holland's Spider-Man soon, although what I really want to witness next is him working with Shang-Chi, possibly through an Avengers movie. Shang-Chi teaching him "The Way of the Spider" would be awesome to see as well as Simu Liu and Tom Holland's chemistry would be something I like to see.

[@Afrieddelicacy]

Now that MJ is gone, a blackcat love story would be cool

[@hudsonsmith5467]

I have a feeling it may draw too many comparisons to the new Batman movie

[@fulcrum6760]

Nah, Peter shouldn’t be with another super powered person. It doesn’t work at all.

[@redfive02]

@@fulcrum6760 not long term, maybe just for one movie At the end of NWH he decides he doesn't want to put people in danger by getting close to them So if he meets Black Cat, someone who can handle themself, it could be the start of him changing his mind

[@SpiderManMCUniverse]

@@fulcrum6760 It doesn’t work if you don’t want it to work. It can definitely work, writers just don’t want it for whatever reason. Same with having a Superman video game. Anything can work if you set your mind to it.

[@Vibe1610]

@@fulcrum6760 It worked in the game pretty well

[@theincrediblecarters3128]

I don't think we should automatically go to Venom when he gets the suit. This is a great opportunity to do the symbiote Spider-man done right, have him get it early in the fourth movie or someone elses movie (Avengers ex) and actually let him keep it for at least two movies to see him change. Giving Peter a suit that feeds off and enhances negative emotions when Peter is at his lowest is perfect. Plus, this can happen while doing other stuff like Daredevil and Black Cat which are great options for where he can go (actually working with another hero as equals instead of being the sidekick and having a new type of love interest that we haven't seen from these movies). However, isn't Sony making a Kraven movie and Black Cat is in talks for her own movie that they've been trying to get off the grown, from the looks of it those movies are gonna be in the Sonyverse so I don't know if Kraven or Black Cat can be down in the MCU.

[@SUKADIK4]

Only the uneducated and or delusional ones thought this movie was good when clearly it was not if you were paying attention to it lol. Kevin Feige manipulated a lot of idiots to go see this garbage in theatre’s and robbed them taking their money lol. Glad I watched this at home for free🤣. This movie is a👎👎👎. Mess up number 1, it’s 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can take that box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this movie around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious. It drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any since. Previous Spider-Man movies was way better than this garbage🤣

[@theincrediblecarters3128]

@@SUKADIK4 And you're telling me this why? Yes your points about Dr. Strange being a bit nerfed, all of this starting because of MIT instead of something more serious, and the lack of understanding about what will exactly happen when the villains are sent back does make things a bit confusing (especially for characters like Doc Oc who will still die if they sent him back right where he left in Spider-man 2) but I'm talking about where things can go. Regardless, I look at this movie the same way I look at Endgame, is it the best, nope, plenty of flaws but it has heart and honestly it could have gone ALOT WORSE *cough* Rise of Skywalker *cough*. Not to mention, it leaves off this character exactly where I wanted him to be.

[@karate84]

I think 2 movies is excessive. Maybe something like this could be cool: Have him find it towards the end of his next solo movie, to give him a powerup before the final fight. Then have him use it in a team up movie (like ironspider in avengers 3 and 4) and make the next solo movie about the problems with the suit.

[@FireJach]

@@SUKADIK4 #NobodyAsked

[@theincrediblecarters3128]

@@karate84 That's basiclly what I was going for where he uses it once in his movie and a second time in an Avengerrs movie just to have him interact with the other hereos and show he's changed before we really get into the negative aspects of the suit.

[@jwanie366]

Definitely agree with you on this. With how No Way Home ended, there are so many different paths that Sony and Marvel Studios can take with Tom's Peter now. The next movie likely won't be as massive as NWH, but I'm sure it'll still be a good one

[@BOABModels]

I'm really happy with how NWH ended - I hated how his identity was made public at the end of FFH and was really worried about where they were heading. I think the direction they can go in now is so exciting. I loved NWH so much.

[@Yulises]

I’d like to avoid spoiling the film for others, but I’d just like to say, hats off to everyone involved in the film. Sure, there are aspects that seem to take me out; however, as a fan of Spider-Man, it delivered. I am pleased with the ending and can’t wait to see where they take the character next.

[@albumkosong]

If people haven't watch the movie why would they watch a "where to take Spider-Man NEXT" (obviously after the event of nwh)

[@MrZachtheKingsfan]

@@albumkosong And then read the comments of said video? At that point, they just don’t care about spoilers lol

[@JoeLoquacious]

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[@SUKADIK4]

Only the uneducated and or delusional ones thought this movie was good when clearly it was not if you were paying attention to it lol. Kevin Feige manipulated a lot of idiots to go see this garbage in theatre’s and robbed them taking their money lol. Glad I watched this at home for free🤣. This movie is a👎👎👎. Mess up number 1, it’s 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can take that box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this movie around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious. It drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any since. Previous Spider-Man movies was way better than this garbage🤣

[@oceanman1697]

We aren't asking for Tom Holland's trilogy to end and be replaced with TASM 3, we live in a time where audiences aren't confused with the concept of multiverses and multiple spidermen, I think they should make a TASM 3 to finish off Andrews trilogy and then just keep the Holland trilogy going at the same time.

[@tofugofa]

I had some combination of all of the above in mind: I want to see Black Cat as the next love interest. I'm not sure how much I want to see the black suit story play out again, but I think it could work here, with Felicia tempting Peter to give in to the suit's impulses (see Web of Shadows). Venom should be the villain in a later movie, after the black suit story. I'd be fine with skipping Eddie Brock within the MCU, giving the suit straight to Mac Gargon. This would set him up for the Dark Avengers they seem to be moving towards.

[@MythicBricks]

What are the other dark avengers do you think

[@maxh276]

I don't think you should do Mac Gargon just 'set him up' for the next avengers film. A big problem with some MCU movies is that they just do stuff to set up the next event with no consideration for the present story. Eddie Brock would be a much better Venom. I want to see him terrorize Spider-Man. They could still do Mac, but should stay true to Venom as a character

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@maxh276 lol what? Nah I strongly disagree with that entirely saying they do stuff in preparation for the next event instead of focusing on the current story they have in the present. That’s not true at all for the most part except for Thor Ragnork and that’s about it for the most part. All the other stories have self contain narratives.

[@thisbubblygoodness7611]

@@maxh276 i dont think every MCU movie is a set up for the next but Far From Home's a good example, honestly i think FFH could have been done heaps better and still give the 'identity reveal' ending also i like the idea of Mac Gargan being MCU venom, i love the actor and they still haven't done anything with him

[@tofugofa]

@@maxh276 I think Marvel aren't particularly interested in retreading old ground, particularly with the spider-man films. There's a reason they didn't introduce their own doc ock or goblin (arguably spidey's most iconic foes). We've already had two interpretations of Eddie Brock as venom, so I'm not convinced they'll do it again in the mcu. Garfield vs Hardy is more likely in my opinion. Tom Hardy's left some of the symbiote in the mcu, I think, so it can be passed on to a new host. Out of Flash and Gargon I think the latter is more likely. Plus I think Gargon could do a great job tormenting Peter the way he original Venom did in the comics.

[@nedimemreozkas6875]

I think all these pitches could work if they can use Spider-Man smartly in other projects. A Daredevil project could be perfect for this. Maybe after Echo. They can use Daredevil and Spider-Man in Echo to show that they have a growing friendship and then we can see Spider-Man in a Daredevil project, hopefully in a series much like Netflix's, in which we can see that they have a strong friendship now. The Daredevil project would be the perfect thing to introduce Black Cat. My pitch for this show would be a power struggle of sorts like the latest Daredevil series. Daredevil and Fisk has been gone for five years thanks to Thanos and now that they're back there's a new face in the street who does not want Daredevil or Fisk in his city. Black Cat works for this new kingpin. She fell to this road because she could not find any other way out of the crisis after Blip. Maybe she lost both her parents during Blip thanks to an accident which would give an extra layer of depth to her. First Daredevil comes in contact with Cat and then he askes Spidey's help to find her and when they find her they battle it out. This would be a perfect opportunity to show her better side. She may go easy on Peter. During the shows final showdown Peter and Cat might show up as well and Cat betrays her boss which would help Spidey warm up to her. Also during the show we can see Spider-Man messing things up for Fisk's operation who will be the ultimate enemy in his next trilogy. This way we would get a layered version of Black Cat as well as introduce her without losing any time in Spider-Man which now has to tackle Venom, Daredevil, Black Cat and even Wilson Fisk and Scorpion. The pitch for the fourth Spider-Man movie can start with Spider-Man getting the black suit and becoming more aggressive progressively but not too much. The black suit would be on him for a while maybe until the sixth movie. In this movie we can see Daredevil vs Black Cat because let's face it they have different ethics and they wouldn't get along at all but I want them to be conflicting allies that want different things for Peter. This might be hinted at in the Daredevil project. Daredevil might call him Peter while Cat calls him Spidey and they would be representing an argument. Black Cat would want Peter to ditch Peter Parker and become Spider-Man fully while Daredevil wants him to connect to his human side with Peter because he knows that he cannot do this job without having a human side. Daredevil could make some references to Season 3 but not too much because I know this is a soft reboot kinda thing. While Peter is trying to figure out this argument Fisk and the person he hired to stop Spider-Man, Scorpion would be pushing him to his edges and he might be going a bit too aggressive towards them which is the effect of Venom. Venom shouldn't be a villain right away not until the fifth movie. We might see hints of him like Peter becoming more aggressive but not truly an enemy like in the comics. Not just yet. Peter might choose to become Spider-Man full time because of Venom messing with his brain and start dating Cat at the end of the movie. The next movie would be about Peter becoming more and more aggressive and Cat liking it. Also we might see Spidey and Cat in other projects as well. More grounded series maybe in the next Daredevil project or the show that he's getting. We can see that their relationship growing more and PEter changing a bit. Maybe include Kraven who would be hunting Spider-Man because Fisk paid him to do so. Again doubling on the aggressiveness we can see that Peter almost kills Kraven but Cat stops and Peter hurts Cat which would make Peter realize it's the symbiote so he gets rid of it. We can see Venom getting angry because of this and finding a new host who wants to form an alliance with Kraven. This might be too similar to Spider-Man 3 but I have something to change things up a bit. They would not trust each other. They would get close to killing Peter but they would start fighting as to who gets to kill him. Peter might wait until one of them wins and then beats the other one. They would both go to the prison where we can see them forming an alliance with Peter's other enemies like Vulture, Scorpion. This section might be a cool time to show that Mysterio is back. The sixth movie can have Sinister Six thanks to the enemies that Peter fought off in the other projects that he was in as well as Kingpin. Again I will be connecting this project with the Daredevil project because Daredevil is the best character to picture Fisk getting in power. We can see Fisk bailing out Sinister Six from the jail to hunt down Spider-Man because Spidey hurt Fisk's operation so much. We can see Spider-Man fighting with Sinister Six in the first two acts where in the first match he fails and in the next he gets help and beats them but he also loses someone close to him. I don't want this person to be Black Cat so maybe Ned or MJ or both Ned and MJ if we can see them in the other movies. Anyway Peter sends Sinister Six back to jail but he learns that Fisk put them to this job. The third act would be about Peter fighting with Fisk and his desire to kill Fisk hurt his loved ones. A big climax like Daredevil Season 3 would be amazing for this where Peter stops from killing Fisk because that would only make him the person his Aunt May told him not to become and the person that Fisk is so he stops. This is a long shot considering how hard it would be to pull this off and too similar to what's been done by other shows and movies but I think it can still work well with the new series. Maybe changing things up a bit would work but I think a longer black suit wearing time, Black Cat, Daredevil and Spider friendship and main villain Fisk must be in the new trilogy.

[@RastaGamesful]

I want the next trilogy be more mature. I hope we deep dive in street lvl Spider-Man life. And I'm waiting to develop the colleague life of Peter. The Home trilogy was about one thing, the next trilogy should be another. With the different approach they can do a great MCU Spider-man story!

[@SUKADIK4]

Only the uneducated and or delusional ones thought this movie was good when clearly it was not if you were paying attention to it lol. Kevin Feige manipulated a lot of idiots to go see this garbage in theatre’s and robbed them taking their money lol. Glad I watched this at home for free🤣. This movie is a👎👎👎. Mess up number 1, it’s 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can take that box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this movie around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious. It drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any since. Previous Spider-Man movies was way better than this garbage🤣

[@madtitan0825]

I think symbiote would be a great follow up since it’s teased and also Peter has shown his dark aggressive side in NWH, they don’t have to do it immediately in the fourth one but probably soon

[@crackles1597]

an intresting thought about the idea of following up on the venom teaser would be to say that when the piece of the venom symbiote bonds with spider man it would create a symbiote entirely seperate from venom , like in let there be carnage

[@oakleyraverty1030]

Speaking of Vaas, I think that's the best way to make a Tom Holland black suit spidey 'Scary' and 'Intimidating/Tough' because they already made fun of Spidey pulling a batman in homecoming. Having Peter turn into more of a fast talking unpredictable psycho that sort of flip flops between friendly neighbourhood and One more Day spidey would be best imo

[@GenerationWest]

You're right about it being open ended, because all of these ideas could be one or two movies, and you mix and match them up, with a follow up using more ideas presented...Then again, that can be easier said than done when Sony really wants a solo Kraven or Black Cat movie, that muddies up these ideas. So, here's my little ideas: Kingpin being the main threat, Daredevil the ally, with Black Cat being a slight antagonist/ally and Scorpion, the threat he fights throughout. This could be in one movie, with the symbiote being a background story, being experimented on, so it could lead on into a sequel. In the sequel, with Black Suit Spider-Man vs Kraven, that's like Last Hunt, but a version of Life's Storys. In the background for that movie, Miles is being set up, and we get reintroduces to MJ, who's personality and style has shifted to classic MJ, because without Peter, her life maybe went into that direction... or something. I think about this a lot as you can see lol

[@king_supreme1102]

I actually love this! I’m not really a big fan of having Black Cat in the background… doesn’t seem necessary. These films are gonna be jam packed and idk if we have room for a weird love triangle going on. But other than that I totally agree with the villains for the first 2 films.

[@Nova-fh2et]

My head hurts already

[@donbirkinshaw1630]

i think mixing the daredevil andblack storyline ideas in to one movie could work pretty well..blakc cat often has ties to kingpin and mob to and with peter ebing all alone and in a dakr place ite leaves alot of room for both daredevil and blakc cat ot make appearecne to play different roles.beuase jsut like spdie-rman matt murdock wants a nomrla life wiht friends and fmaily outside his activitys as daredevil asl well wnaitn to live both lives no matter hos distuctive jsut like peter while blakc cat could pull him more in the direction of embrace spider-man while daredevil can help him reappreacite who he actally is as a person pulling him in differnet directions maybe daredeivl trys ot prevent spider-man from going on that dark path hes been on before in daredevil season 3 where he was diconnected from everyone going on a downward spiral while balkc cat encurages it...also i would also add in another shocker apperence here as well to be a henchemen for kingpin along side scoprion all 3 of these villaisn ahve bene introduece prior so it wont have the smae effect as spider-man 3 and tams 2 of introducing to many new villains as they are brigning back charactrs that made previosu appearecnes that explained who they are and thier relation to spider-man excpet kingpin who appeared in daredevil but this movie can work on building that connection but have him come back as full suited shocker like in the spider-man ps4 game as shocker seemed to be in prototype mode in the first movie and was even a scraped cosutme concept art they diidnt use that ened up getting a aciton figure made of him so it got far enough in to prdocution and shocker isnt reallt a deep charatcer and neither is scorpion so having them both be a doulbe henchemen mob enforcer villains for the kingpin could work and then at the end have a 3 way dance between king pin, scoprion and shcoker and spider-man, daredevil and black cat..and have the symbiote find spider-man in an after credit scene and have black suit spider-man threwout the 5th movie and explore his darkside no way home alouded to with green goblin as all the preassure finally getting to him and the symbiote tkaing advantage of this and have kraven as the main villain of this movie and have mcus own venom be formed spider-man 6..for this i would go spectauler spdier-mna ultiamte verions of edide brpkc wrote where he is a best freind of peter that was also a sicenits isntea dof a reporter as we have gottne that veriosn twcie now and need somehtign different and could repalce the spdie-rman harfy dynamic with eddie and build up that freindship.rivilary over the coruse fo thsi trilogy transationing in to venom in the 6th movie..the middle poinf of the story is usually the darkest chapter in a sotry ike empire strikes back or temple of doom so having 4 leading to 5 the symbiote and 6 venom for the final of the second trilogy could work and the third trilogy after his college years could work on introduceiding miles simulerly to the ps4 game how he met miles as post college graudet studant and is now working towards beign a scientist and building up the mcu sinister 6

[@JoeLoquacious]

@@king_supreme1102 OMGG GUYSS, I found a HUGE LEAK FOR THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 3!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJOVn3modt6arsU…

[@navonmyhand7999]

Besides the part about Miles, this is almost exactly the ideas I've been having about the next trilogy. Well, also the fact that I wouldn't be against substituting Daredevil and Kingpin for Tombstone or Hammerhead as the major antagonist whom Black Cat and Spider man largely have to fight against.

[@king_supreme1102]

My pitch for the villains in the trilogy: -1st movie: features Scorpion and Kingpin, Kingpin being the criminal mastermind and supplying Scorpion with his suit -2nd movie: Peter will be getting the symbiote/black suit. Will also be an adaptation of Kraven’s last hunt. After rising from the “dead” he will see what Kraven did as Spider-Man (he will wear the black suit as well) and realize that the suit corrupted him, and he will get rid of it by the end… -3rd movie: … until the symbiote finds Eddie Brock (alternatively could do Agent Venom with Flash, or bring back Mac Gargan to be Venom)

[@actuatioN352]

You can't make kraven's first hunt his last hunt

[@SUKADIK4]

Only the uneducated and or delusional ones thought this movie was good when clearly it was not if you were paying attention to it lol. Kevin Feige manipulated a lot of idiots to go see this garbage in theatre’s and robbed them taking their money lol. Glad I watched this at home for free🤣. This movie is a👎👎👎. Mess up number 1, it’s 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can take that box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this movie around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious. It drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any since. Previous Spider-Man movies was way better than this garbage🤣

[@king_supreme1102]

@@actuatioN352 it obviously wouldn’t be his first hunt once they give the character a background.

[@cooldinom]

@@SUKADIK4 if you think spiderman beating doctor strange is bad, then stay the hell away from the comics. spiderman bodied the whole ass avengers, xmen, and fantastic 4 so badly they had to mind control him to stop doing it.

[@deadpoolrockz6410]

I would replace the Kraven one with Hobgoblin instead. Like Ned Leeds (maybe Flash too) is framed for being a suspect as that costumed villain, leading to Spider-Man in the black suit going on a rampage to prove his friends innocence. By some miracle, this can be the set up to Peter best friend finally gaining his memories back.

[@CroseBuhrn]

There's a 4th option. Involving Ned as Hobgoblin, which would add new dimensions because of the memory erasure

[@NotSoMax]

I really like the black cat and kraven pitch, I even think there’s a place for the symbiote in that story that wouldn’t feel shoehorned in. Having two voices telling him both that he should basically only be Spider-Man and that he has to use his powers to their fullest. We get more of the daily bugle bringing attention to his association with black cat, and when the symbiote gets involved JJ addresses how Spider-Man has been getting more violent with criminals. Then you’d also have a decent set up for Kraven or even scorpion if you wanna go the JJ route. And I mean it’d be pushing it but a daredevil black cat thing being the devil and angel on his shoulder could be good too. But that really could end up being too much. Although I think the sound weakness for the symbiote presents an interesting opportunity with daredevil…

[@GeekySam4]

If they do follow through with Tom getting the black suit, I think Michael Mando's Gargan should become his Venom after a brief stint as Scorpion. That way, we can have a villain Venom in the MCU and Sony can keep their anti-hero Venom.

[@R0-83-RT]

Or we can just straight up have the syboite be the thing that makes Mac Gargan Venom in this interpretation. We see by the tattoo on Gargan that he already seems to have have some association with the creature, and the symbiote can shape shift into one's desired form, so why not a tail. My personal take, nothing against Mac Gargan becoming Scorpion the traditional way, just thought this could potentially streamline things.

[@Jenamphetam1ne]

I want that symbiote to be the next trilogy. Like peter gets some sort of support group at the end of the first and then he gets the symbiote suit and meets black cat in the second and it tears his relationships apart, and then he gets rid of the symbiote and it takes over his former best friend. Spectacular Spider-man. Im saying I want this next trilogy to be Spectacular Spider-man

[@ToXicminez]

I’d love to see a movie whether is the first or second in a trilogy- where Peter gets the symbiote, growing closer to black cat and choosing a darker way to get things done but not as dark as at the end of NWH, and having daredevil be a legal compass to live by. They could introduce the black suit while not having venom be the villian till the third /second movie

[@Crichjo32]

I'd like the next one to be a more stripped back, street level Spiderman, teaming up with Matt Murdock to take on Kingpin. The symbiote can be introduced, at some point. Second movie can be Peter with the black suit, taking on Kraven the Hunter.

[@childintime9121]

Personally, I'd love to see a continuation of the Scorpion set up from Homecoming, and with everyone forgetting who Peter Parker is, that could even (possibly) bring Michael Keaton back as Vulture. Not only that, but I'd love to see a return of Shocker, but someone who is more faithful to the character and is properly utilized unlike how it was in Homecoming

[@icedcapplord710]

Ideally Kingpin HAS to appear somewhere here. If this trilogy is going to go closer into Romita Sr.'s era with the character, Fisk was a massive part of that whole run, and D'Onofrio's Fisk in particular would play really well off of Tom Holland. With Black Suit also being in the picture they can adapt elements of the "Back in Black" story he was a major part of.

[@laughythaklown7661]

Nope, can't happen

[@Inebriated_Goat]

He's dead lol

[@cubegamer0761]

@@Inebriated_Goat ur stupid if u think he's dead, they cut off camera and hes been shot hundreds of times in the comics, and when echo shot him in the comics he went blind for like 10 days

[@Inebriated_Goat]

@@cubegamer0761 since when does the MCU stick 100% true to the comics 🤔 you seen what they did with Taskmaster.

[@icedcapplord710]

@@Inebriated_Goat "If they don't show the body, they ain't dead."

[@nfrrenny]

if theres one thing we definitely need its spiderman fighting kingpin. hes the biggest villain that spidey hasnt fought on the big screen yet and the idea of d'onofrio's fisk and tom's peter fighting each other and bringing that to life is just great to me. and throw daredevil and black cat in there along and i'll be the happiest person ever

[@RoamingRob42]

I, personally, really like the Back Cat and Kraven the Hunter pitch. I think it sounds interesting and logically follows on from where we left Peter in No Way Home. I also think it gives scope for Peter to reconnect with Ned and MJ which I want because that trio is really great and one of my favourite things about these Spiderman films.

[@Zombiesnyder13]

They gave AVI ARAD a big thank you in the credits But do you know who deserves a bigger thank you? LAURA ZISKIN It was because of her and her husband (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the original trilogy and TASM1 had depth And Arad just wanted to use those movies to sell toys

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

Isn't she also the reason Sally Fields took the role of Aunt May?

[@Zombiesnyder13]

@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom I don't know

[@SUKADIK4]

Only the uneducated and or delusional ones thought this movie was good when clearly it was not if you were paying attention to it lol. Kevin Feige manipulated a lot of idiots to go see this garbage in theatre’s and robbed them taking their money lol. Glad I watched this at home for free🤣. This movie is a👎👎👎. Mess up number 1, it’s 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can take that box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this movie around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious. It drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any since. Previous Spider-Man movies was way better than this garbage🤣

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

@@SUKADIK4 You could smell the desperation through the words and emojis. What are you desperate of, mate? Attention?

[@hokageder9.generation775]

As many have said already, „Kravens last hunt“ would be a great story to see on the big screen and I think it would fit with the symbiote and Black CAT option. When Spider-Man rises from the grave like in the comic he gains that strength through his persona as Perter Parker. This could be a way for him to regain his identity as Peter Parker.

[@jackbreuhaus6244]

How could he have a last hunt without having a first

[@MeatOfJustice]

@@jackbreuhaus6244 we just don't see the first one

[@JoshuaHenelyThornhill]

Dude I love every thing in this video ! The 2 first options you’ve given are really great places to bring Spidey in the future especially since he’s finally starting to look n feel like our good ol Spidey. I can’t wait to see what’s in the future for the him. And also let’s hope morbius ain’t too shitty with all them delays.

[@dinoman1464]

I have 3 ideas, flash gets a symbiote like Venom, MJ becomes Scream with the symbiote, or more likely Ned become Hobgoblin, all because Peter isn’t in their lives

[@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache]

I hope the next MCU Spider-Man movie will have Kraven as the villian, and adapt Last Hunt. I can see Kingpin hiring Kraven to take down Spidey, and have him team up with Daredevil. I also would love seeing Black Cat in the next movie. I think we will see the Symbiote attach itself to Peter near the end of the next movie. I can also see it attaching itself to Peter after he is buried alive to look like that classic comic page where he burst out of the ground.

[@turkeyhamman4111]

Adapt his death first? Seems like a waste

[@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache]

@@turkeyhamman4111 You mean Kraven's or Spidey's? I don't want Kraven to die in the movie he is introduced. I would like them to adapt the famous sence of Kraven burying Spider-Man alive, with him coming out of the ground with the black suit like in the comic, but for the movie make it where the Symbiote attaches itself to Peter to get him out of there. It could symbolize him being reborn with the Symbiote.

[@R0-83-RT]

Making Kraven be hired by someone makes sense considering the character's reputation as a hunter. I like this idea.

[@turkeyhamman4111]

@@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache alright its just that the whole story is good and I'd want kravens death to be adapted, just not right now. Kraven should be introduced soon as an active side villain

[@SUKADIK4]

Only the uneducated and or delusional ones thought this movie was good when clearly it was not if you were paying attention to it lol. Kevin Feige manipulated a lot of idiots to go see this garbage in theatre’s and robbed them taking their money lol. Glad I watched this at home for free🤣. This movie is a👎👎👎. Mess up number 1, it’s 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can take that box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this movie around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious. It drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any since. Previous Spider-Man movies was way better than this garbage🤣

[@marche800]

Honestly I feel like they fumbled the last attempt at the black suit in Spiderman 3 so hard that I'd just want to see that arc played straight if they ever get around to it in the MCU. Not totally straight where it's just one to one the comic story of course, I want them to do their own thing for sure but I think it's a shame that we've never gotten an impactful version of one the the most important Spidey arcs and villains.

[@gf1006]

Ive got a great idea for a Mr Negative/Demons story involving the black cat stealing a source of negative energy from them which ends up being the symbiote which binds to Peter after he dies in Black Cat’s arms at the end of the film, reviving him and giving him the black suit. It does also involve Gwen Stacy at college, and MJ and Ned are also there despite not having major roles, they just act as an emotional point for Peter, and sort of his motivation. Thinking of making this as a youtube pitch eventually

[@totalposer8726]

I’d personally love to see them use chameleon. It could be really interesting because no one remembers peter Parker, it’d be a perfect time for chameleon to assume his identity and start tarnishing his name. Then the movie could introduce black cat as the voice in peter’s ear saying that he should give up the identity as Peter Parker and just become Spider-Man 24/7 (like how you had said). I also feel like chameleon is an underrated spidey villain that’d be really cool to see on the big screen

[@annorandom9066]

I hope, though it's unlikely, that MJ gets the Venom symbiote. It will make it easier for MJ and Peter to get together again, once he sees that MJ can protect herself and/or gets hurt with or without him being there for her. Even if that doesnt happen, I still wish to see Zendaya and Tom together on the screen again.

[@rekap9288]

also the symbiote could transfer peters memories too her. Making it so that she remembers who he is and they reconcile

[@Lilfairyxo]

I wish for the same thing

[@amw7828]

💯Agreed although it seems we are in minority

[@ERGSEG]

That would be really cool.

[@parodysam]

They should make Vulture this Spider-Man’s overarching enemy. Such similar yet different philosophies. I’d love to see him be the first to figure out who Peter Parker is based on leftover clues given that he’s the only person to ever work out his identity without a wealth of data (Tony Stark). If not the overarching villain, then one to help Peter at some point. Maybe with building new tech.

[@austinbaker2752]

Your Chanel is slowly growing great to see

[@armhelc7501]

Matt would also be one of the few to believe Peter’s whole story should he tell it, because he would know whether he was lying or not.

[@FueledFromFiction]

“Where to take Spider-Man next” Immediately my first thought: *SPIDER-MAN PS4*

[@gaelanwhite8842]

Personally, I want to see Peter rebuilding his life into something new as he deals with everything he's lost. Maybe he meets new people, gets a new job, and starts working up money to pay for NYU. He has obvious issues of paying for rent, struggling as a homemade superhero, facing the odd villain here and there, and the big emotional issues of losing his aunt and closest friends. For villains, I think Scorpion would be awesome, though I would love to see the Manfredi family get some more attention. Maybe get Silvermane as an obsession of Spider-Man, using his pursuit of the old mob boss to help distract him from his emotional damage, only to learn about Silvio's own tragedies and how he has handled them in more sickening ways. Maybe while Peter has tried to rebuild his life and trying to be stronger and more responsible in honor of the people he loves, Silvio has taken a more hedonistic and destructive path that led him to ruining the lives of others because he feels he has earned the right to ignore the pain of others. Making the new Spider-Man movie a superpowered crime thriller that tackles grief, recovery, and what it means to forgive yourself seems like an amazing way to start out the beginning of a new Spider-Man series. As for who I'd want to be in the movie, I'd say have some new characters like Robbie Robertson, Carlie Cooper, Max Modell, Prowler, and Jean DeWolff could serve as a new supporting cast for Peter as he gets used to his new life.

[@MegaMetroGirl]

One interesting note, I really think both option 1 and 2 would both work really well together in the tone of the new trilogy your pitching. Black cat specifically, as a cat burglar, always works as a really interesting antihero in William fisk/organized crime families in Spiderman stories

[@shoogamoogaman]

Totally agree about Black Cat! I think that would be the perfect route to go for the next movie. I would also wanna see Daredevil and Spidey team-up but don't know if he should team up with two super friends in the same movie. What I also think they should do in this next trilogy is have a movie centred on the Hobgoblin mystery! I think it would be cool if we have a character find Norman Osborn's leftover tech from the statue of liberty and create the Hobgoblin persona, and have Peter spend the movie trying to figure out who it is. And have it be literally ANYONE other than Ned Leeds. Not only would this Ned Leeds not work as a threatening villain but also, Hobgoblin was never meant to be Ned in the comics either, that wasn't the plan for the character and it was a very disappointing reveal. Basically do a better version of the Arkham Knight mystery from the Batman games, someone who has a personal vendetta against Spider-Man, maybe even someone who still somehow knows he's Peter Parker, but don't go for the obvious character/the character everyone expects it to be!

[@slim..reaper]

Yes yes yes. I love the mystery idea

[@malikmbugua1967]

I just want to give you love for those seamless scene changes using movies. The editing was top tier 💪🏿

[@QuietStorm-my9jz]

a black cat story would be really cool. Take similar beats to the relationship they had in the ultimate spider-man comics. Maybe Kingpin is the main villain and the story is much more grounded to Peter after the events of NWH

[@hectorplay8199]

I honestly like all the options and since we have confirmed another trilogy, all of these could be able to fit. I could start with the Kingpin and Scopion storyline, introducing Daredevil and the symbiote (this last one in a similar way has on the comics). Then I could follow up with the Black Cat and Kraven plot, but with the symbiote starting to affect Peter.Other important element could be that Scorpion could be building the Sinister Six, so Kraven could be part of it. Lastly, we could finally have the new Venom on action, maybe going to Flash after Peter takes him off. Maybe we could also see Miles helping Peter and Black Cat joining with the new Venom. At the end, we could get the Sinister Six to a future movie or series.

[@Durmomo0]

I love the actor who plays Flash, even when he was the Lobby Boy, but I cant take him seriously as Venom.

[@thebadwolf3088]

Fuck no, not that Flash Thompson. It would be the most pathetic Venom ever

[@leenolan1469]

I do think it should be Miles & Toms Peter vs actual Villain Venom. Although I'd love to see Andrew vs Tom Hardy Venom & I'm not sure Sony would give the MCU a Miles.. Saying that they already have referenced him in HC

[@valvogaWoot]

My hope's Black Cat and symbiote for the next movie. Even though Holland's Peter is out of high school, the perception of him is that he's way more adolescent in mannerisms. Both of those two characters would fit so well when Peter's in this really interesting frame of mind where he's at a Big juncture of his formative years while also being at one of his biggest lows since those characters are usually painted as negative influences on Peter. Especially since Peter doesn't have a support network after the last movie and would be more susceptible, there's a lot of meat they can go on if the focus is a more personal story about Peter meeting the wrong people at the wrong time.

[@RikudoMadaraUchiha]

I mean Black Cat could be the same age for all we know

[@wesmantooth32]

I would like to see a bit of a time skip. Maybe open the movie with Peter celebrating being 21. Holland is really stretching his ability to pull off being a teen anymore.

[@RikudoMadaraUchiha]

@@wesmantooth32 Not possible unless the MCU as a whole does a time skip also

[@wesmantooth32]

@@RikudoMadaraUchiha Doesn't sound like an awful idea to me. Give Kate more time to grow into her role, find a replacement for T'Challa. Bucky and Falcon won't be really affected. Feels like there needs to be a decently long break before any major team ups anyway.

[@RikudoMadaraUchiha]

@@wesmantooth32 True. They can use this time for F4 and X-Men also

[@dustinchilds2378]

As much as I would love to get black cat in a movie, the daredevil/ Fisk pitch makes the most sense to me. I think it’s really important the next film stays grounded and “street level” and focuses on Peter as a character.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

Or just combine black cat WITH daredevil as black cat tries to take reveneg against Fisk by tricking Spider-Man to do it with her.

[@jcrews8582]

However the next movie(s) end up going, I just hope Peter does eventually reconnect with Ned and MJ; sure, he walked away from doing that in the epilogue of No Way Home, but he promised to come find them and reconnect, so eventually let him make good on that promise, dang it!

[@sugaryheaven4089]

Ned and MJ bring nothing to the story

[@kgm782]

In the post credit scene of Let There Be Carnage, Venom mentions he knows a lot of knowledge that Eddie couldn't understand. What if this knowledge transcends the spell and the symbiot that stays in the MCU knows who Peter Parker is and they use that as a jumping point for the next spiderman film.

[@jadencasto]

One thing I think they also did with how they ended the movie, is set it up so that Sony could pull Spidey out of the MCU but continue his arc in a way that makes sense and doesn’t require a reboot. Obviously, I am not rooting for this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened.

[@ColeHomeVideo]

Having the Venom and Morbius films be retroactively set in the Amazing Spider-Man universe with Andrew Garfield return as Spider-Man as a supporting role in these villain films is a must. Also a Spider-Gwen film with Emma Stone as an alternate reality Gwen Stacy would make for an interesting film and realistic given Emma Stone is now leading star material based on Cruella.

[@Zackyblack12]

this is an excellent video . through and through

[@SageThyme23]

I'm not gonna lie I really love your intro. It is basically my favourite parts of your channel. Its just so iconic.

[@MegaOscan]

Something that I would like to see in a new Spider-Man film is him in college and and being all alone in the world, wondering if he can get to know, or be close to other people without them getting hurt by him being Spider-Man, at the same time we would see J Jonah Jameson bring tricked into funding the research of one Alistair Smythe and his Spider Slayers, which will also lead to Mac Gargan becoming the Scorpion, maybe give Jameson a character arc and explore the reason why he hates Spider-Man, I'd love it if they could draw some parallels between Jonah and Smythe, characters who let their personal loss and loneliness twisted them in some way and how Peter could end up just like them if he's not careful. 😃

[@anushaathukoralage7428]

Maybe the reason J Jonah Jameson hates spidey is because his son was killed in the carnival scene in homecoming or by a drone in far from home

[@MegaOscan]

@@anushaathukoralage7428 Yeah could be, I hope that they will use the reason he had in the 90's animated series where his wife was killed by a man in a mask, or the Ultimate version where his son died a hero but it was all hushed down and no one will ever know what John did, so when Spider-Man comes along and people start calling him a hero Jonah has a problem with that.

[@CometStar100]

Take him into college. Introduce Gwen and Harry. Have him team up DD and Punisher. Theres so much they could do now with these next 3 movies. I wish he had 6 more cause I feel like they might introduce Miles in the next trilogy but I feel it would be too soon for that. I think post college is when Miles should be introduced but we'll see how things play out I guess but the future of MCU Spider-Man looks bright to me.

[@galactic85]

If by "team up" with the punisher you mean have Spider-man and Daredevil beat the crap out of him and send him to prison then I would be ok with that.

[@CometStar100]

@@galactic85 Sure. I meant I want those characters to interact. Theres so much that they could do with his next trilogy and it's a shame he's only getting these 3 films.

[@chengkuoklee5734]

I dislike Punisher, he's toxic. Team up with Dare Devil to protect an alleged criminal from Punisher would be better.

[@ymellow.]

Not Gwen and Harry first of all Harry has the Osborne last name wouldn't that be a red flag for Peter, second of all Harry is already confirmed to not exist in NWH, third why would Peter not go back to his girlfriend and best friend because he doesn't want to hurt them only to go to Gwen and Harry.

[@CometStar100]

@@ymellow. Thats Peters best friend in the comics during the college years. They never said Harry does not exist and he doesn't have to be a Osborn if that name does not exist in the MCU but I don't remember them saying the Osborn name can't come into the MCU universe. Harry is such an interesting character and they never did a good job adapting his character from the comics. He's done with his high school friends so now it's time for him to make new friends in college. They could bring MJ back some how but I think Ned should not come back. They could have a situation where he never meant to make new friends but it just ended up happening. It's not like he's out and about wanting to make friendships. Sometimes it just happens and this time he became friends with Gwen and Harry.

[@lydiabliss4473]

This video IS FANTASTIC! Thank you for the amazing suggestions-I hope they take your advice!

[@BirthQuakeRecords]

GOD I want a movie about a friendly neighborhood (and absolutely dirt poor and depressed) Spider-Man. The final moments of that NWH made me SO HOPEFUL that we were going to get a relatable, street-level Tom Holland Spider-Man for the first time ever. I want to see him struggle between the choice of saving lives and paying rent. I wanna see him struggle to find the materials and money to make his web shooters (and his dilating eye things in his mask…we CAN’T go back to unmoving eyes on his mask after 6 movies with them…it helps his performance SO MUCH). I wanna see him fighting bank robbers, not world-ending cataclysms. This would be the absolute perfect vehicle for him to team up with Daredevil, and do some Defenders-style stuff - It’d be great to be able to have the budget to see Daredevil’s acrobatics fully realized by seeing him and Spidey swinging in tandem through the streets of Manhattan, while also being able to *scale down* Spider-Man’s typical action set pieces by getting him and Daredevil into cramped, smokey hallways to fight an onslaught of goons (where Peter wouldn’t have the freedom of movement he’s typically given in MCU fights, and force him to have to pull his punches by fighting more unpowered people that he has to worry about accidentally killing). The large-scale stuff is cool too, but it’s like eating *cake* for every meal for a week. I WANT POTATOES AND BROCCOLI AND EGGS AND WHATEVER TOO. (I also hope they get a new director for the 4th movie, because the cinematography of these three -especially NWH?- was pretty lackluster and flat, and honestly straight-up ugly at some points. “Every shot’s a painting” isn’t really a mantra that seems like it was taken too seriously on set 😐)

[@yessirmate8357]

honestly i think with matt murdock in the mcu, it would really be worth having a spider-man and daredevil team up in one of the movies in the new trilogy. as a comic fan, to see that on the big screen would be unreal

[@turma8eac]

I would love to see peter in college trying to make new friends. I think it would help keep the tone lighter and could be great. I don’t think this next trilogy should be always darker and grittier.

[@Smellbringer]

I was thinking Black Cat too. The thing about their dynamic is that Black Cat's temptations have always intrigued Peter, his family and friends always kept him away from that dark point. That's gone. So how does a Peter with nothing left except being Spider-Man deal with a dark individual who offers him a sense of warmth and companionship that he's been sorely missing? It's an intriguing question.

[@WarrenValion]

Love the ideas!

[@Sixchr]

My ideal Spider-Man 4 is more of a mashup of all three of these ideas. I want Michael Mando's Scorpion and the Mac Gargan version of Venom, as well as Black Cat, with the post credits scene showing us that Kingpin is working behind the scenes to ultimately organize the Sinister Six at the end of this trilogy.

[@ghouldash9761]

I'd love to see Spider-Man and Black Cat team up against Kraven. Hell, I love the Daredevil team-up even more. The possibilities for Spider-Man are endless at this point.

[@chapin3206]

By far my favoride idea was the black cat one. it would really explore the emotions that Peter must feel after losing pretty much everything except spiderman. Plus Black Cat is a favorite of mine who never really got the spot light in cinema

[@suto5704]

Love the videos, especially the Spider-Man videos.

[@legodude146]

I had a lot of the same ideas, personally my hopes for the next movie are a Black Cat/Kraven movie that maybe incorporates the symbiote but not Venom, a Daredevil team up with Kingpin as the villain of a fifth movie, and a proper Sinister Six team up with Spider-Man villains from the MCU like Vulture, Mysterio, Kraven, and others we haven’t seen yet as a sixth movie (with maybe Miles in it too as a sort of passing the torch).

[@danic_c]

I do hope at some point in the next trilogy, Ned and MJ come back into Peter's life, because they had a lot of good chemistry and I don't wanna see those two relationships vanish into nothing.

[@thegreatandterrible4508]

"would that pitch follow up on the Venom end credit scene?" It would when Mac gets recruited for the Dark Avengers at the end.

[@mystery5906]

my personal hope is that spiderman 4 has peter encountering the symbiote and getting a job at the daily bugle, but i like your idea for catwoman as well. im not sure if its possible to fit them both at once, but no way home proves that you can fit a lot in one movie and have it work.

[@gr3saeyend]

i dont find it realistic for peter to get a job for the guy who sort of traumatized him