How Marvel Fixed a Franchise - Spider-Man: Homecoming

Spider-Man: Homecoming is a huge return to form for the character. What did Marvel Studios do to steer Spider-Man back on track? I tried to answer that question with a really long video about it!
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[@captainmidnight]

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[@stoneocean0065]

captainmidnight do you like marvel vs capcom and if so whats your opinion on infinite

[@uscman]

captainmidnight u should make a video on how to make a good MCU Fantastic 4 film! With all of the good tips u gave in the X-Men MCU Film.

[@djw9920]

Some constructive criticism. I find you overstate your views e.g. we get it - you hate the Amazing Spiderman films and love the other SM flims more. Why is it when you say something is an improvement you compare it to Amazing Spiderman being a "worse" example without explaining it so we understand more - that would be better than just stating your views. Your background music is awful - I'd rather just listen to your voice alone. You could add some of the films' soundtracks if you wanted to. I would suggest finding more ways of making your videos more entertaining to listen to. You are very thorough in explaining your thoughts which is what makes your videos really interesting and I like your intervals between you talking and your use of film scenes to emphasise your points

[@alanguages]

The removal and shredding of Spiderman's mask, isn't to express emotion. It was to give face time to the actor, which is in their contract.

[@nahor88]

captainmidnight Hey dude, love your commentary, but could you please stop doing the staticky transitions? THEY'RE ANNOYING.

[@TD0150]

"You're watching Peter Parker, a 15-year-old kid who thinks he's about to die." ...and then comes Infinity War, where we have to watch a 15-year-old kid KNOW he's about to die.

[@fen4613]

O O F

[@MykiiMescal]

I think peter is actually 16 in IW but point stands

[@astropunch7708]

Technically Homecoming takes place at 2016 and Infinity takes place at 2018. That means he’s 17 when Infinity War happened.

[@shantytshidibi3547]

@@astropunch7708 homecoming takes place in 2017.

[@mayahasnu8659]

Damn he died in 16-17 is that a reference to ultimate peter Parker's death?

[@joeypotter6051]

That scene under the rubble was the highlight of the film for me. That and the scene in the car. Especially with the rest of the film being 'breezy fun' as you described, just made those moments hit even harder. Tom Holland did a great job.

[@BrianBullington]

That car scene is so good. Keaton eyeing Peter in the rear view mirror as he slowly starts to realize. The claustrophobia. Some much great nonverbal communication and suspense.

[@spaghetto9836]

Same. The car scene made the stakes real to me as you could feel Peter's fear in his eyes, and their convo was so calm but so tense. But the rubble scene was *perfect.* I almost cried in the theatre with him, the fact that he's only a kid underneath the suit really hit hard. And I have claustrophobia too, so my anxiety doubled. He truly proved himself a hero & I'm so proud of him for that. One of my favourite Marvel characters 💞

[@acousticks526]

@@spaghetto9836 yeah and the fact that peter could've actually just punch him and knock him out right then and there but couldn't cause he was afraid was actually scary, from what I've seen he's the only one that can scare peter

[@SkyScoobs]

Some other things I thought made it better: 1. Tom Holland being an amazing actor 2. Peter looking more like his age 3. Showing that bullies (flash) don’t always look scary 4. Peter is more of a loser who doesn’t try to show off and doesn’t get into crazy fights 5. MJ isn’t super popular (and she is Zendaya) No hate for the other I just love homecoming and I’m excited for far from home yet still sobbing over endgame

[@Tommyr44]

How the fuck was flash in homecoming a bully. He didn't even do anything a bully would

[@chelsearamos3617]

@@Tommyr44 maybe that scene during the party would? The one where he encourages everyone to call him Penis Parker. He doesn't really bully him physically, but he does constantly pick on Peter

[@mahchestro9144]

@@Tommyr44 Bullying doesn't mean physically hurting someone. Bullying can come in many forms and you don't have to look like a jock to be a bully. This is kinda pathetic but i was bullied by a 5,2 girl in middle school. She didn't physically hurt me but verbally abused me.

[@SmolSillyGoose]

Skylar Chui I LOVE how it’s not cliche and how no one fits this mold that people usually picture high school students as

[@irighterotica]

Number 3 is true enough. I was bullied by a group of punks who got bullied by the "cool kids." I had to deal with both cliques. I don't miss school at all. 😒

[@kinguman308]

video: there are minor spoilers me watching this 3 years later: oh no, spoilers

[@joeda900]

Anyways

[@vicm490]

The thing with Tom Holland is that he actually is a NATURAL STORYTELLER, when he speak at interviews you can spot it: he creates suspense, uses silences, half-laugh before joke, use specific words to spike emotions or create empathy, and he does this naturally as his DRIVE N°1 (Downey Jr., Chris Evans or Chris Hemsworth don't use this as their expression N°1). So, in order to have "a kid talking with himself and the iron/computer all the time" (wich I agree on being great as a reflection of the "spiderman thoughts and selftalk" from the comics), you picked this guy who naturally does it in any sociable encounter he lives! So I think in Marvel there's a casting hand wich is specially skilled at the same level as their writers. This guy Holland was a perfect decision.

[@Chatoyancify]

Nice catch. I had only noticed that Tom is highly verbal in expression with occasionally flimsy filters (enough to accidentally reveal spoilers in interviews). This personality quality is perfect for the role of a guy who talks to himself.

[@Carcosahead]

Sarah Finn is the most precious human being for the mcu right now.

[@nanashi8969]

*Which

[@theflashfan3234]

I, too, am subscribed to Charisma on Command.

[@MultiBigbird01]

Tom gets it from his comedian father dominic holland. In dom's interviews I've noticed a lot of similarities in the way he and tom both explain things and talk.

[@cartersmith6628]

I like your explanation about Spider-Man as a smaller character. Even tony says it in the movie. He needs to be a friendly NEIGHBORHOOD Spider-Man, not save the world

[@hydrolito]

Spider-man has even defeated Dr. Doom before and on another occasion the Hulk he is not just a simple neighborhood kid. In a different Story Dr. Doom took on The Avengers and the X-men plus other mutants.

[@andrewgarfield9898]

hydrolito I hate how everyone wants Spider-Man to be weak and insignificant. I miss my Spider-Man

[@jasonkelly1692]

@@andrewgarfield9898 No one is saying he's weak and insignificemt, but there needs to be a buildup. Ditko-era Spidey was described as having the strength of twelve men... that's not a lot. He had to grow into his powers.

[@nunyabusiness3786]

Ultraspiderman saved universe from galactus pwns thanos Um howabout no

[@ilo3456]

@@hydrolito No but right now the Spider-Man in the MCU is basically a kid who is still very much green, and Tony wants him to learn and grow up, so he is not just a good hero but a good person, he sees potential on him but wants him to take it slow.

[@harshitabhuyan8892]

I just think Tom Holland has managed to become a lot of people's favorite spider man mainly because he actually is like super talkative and funny and the movie doesn't take itself too seriously, similar vibe to the actual Spiderman comics, it makes you fall in love with Peter and he actually feels like the friendly neighborhood Spiderman in this one.

[@zlch4021]

I actually wish his Spider-Man was funnier- he doesn’t quip much. The only Spider-Man who did was really Andrews, but… he wasn’t the best Peter.

[@zlch4021]

Well I know, Peter was shy in the comics too. But he was a quick thinker and he always had a sense of wit, and that all came out when he was Spider-Man- because he felt more confident as Spider-Man. Peter Parker and Spidey almost have different energy levels, but Tom doesn’t portray that. Somehow, his Spidey is even more awkward than his Peter Parker. Which is not right.

[@manuelrose2996]

@@zlch4021 I can see how you think that way. I think it's less apparent in Far From Home, he feels more awkward as a teenager because of the romance stuff than he does in Homecoming.

[@hunterlawrence3573]

@@zlch4021 Unpopular opinion: I actually liked Andrew’s Peter Parker more than his Spider-Man

[@giannilmao]

the only big flaw for me is that they dont ever even MENTION Uncle Ben. Im happy that there was no origin, but the death of Uncle Ben is the reason why Peter is Spider-man.

[@montanahannah4086]

Well they hint towards uncle Ben. When ned asks Peter if aunt may knows about him being Spider-Man he says something like "... with everything that she's been through..."

[@ozxo]

@@montanahannah4086 peter's uncle ben in the mcu is tony. It's the same trauma of losing a father-figure and he still goes through the same journey.

[@seyia2229]

It’s implied though. He references it in Civil War & in Homecoming.

[@toe13]

Its another universe....So ig its diff.

[@surreal-riley]

@@ozxo having tony be peters uncle Ben actually makes sense. In the MCU we know peters parents are dead he then lost uncle Ben so of course he’s going to immediately attach himself to someone who can be his father figure

[@uniball01]

holy shit I only just noticed the poster behind them in the bank robbery scene that says "Identity theft? We got you covered" meanwhile the robbers are wearing the masks of the avengers

[@charvel69]

Surprisingly deep/10

[@ReplayStation]

I love the fact that the movie was able to thematically display the classic 'with great power, there must also come great responsibility' without outright beating you over the head with it. He ditches everything that should be important to him, including the dance, the party, and even becoming an Avenger, to try and do what's right, not what will make him more important.

[@sithstalker770]

No, he just does it "cause" movie never makes you feel like he learned Uncle bens lesson, he just saves the day cause he is a super hero just like all the rest, and spider man is not like all the rest.

[@MrHash911]

Raiden Fox they didnt put in uncle ben's death or the lesson cause we all know it already, you know it too you dont need ghost uncle ben showing up in the clouds saying "Simbaaaa" u know spider-man we all do and the one thing we know about him is he will always pick his responsibility

[@grimmSOL]

I totally agree. I loved that they got that point across, which has very strong ties to the character of Spider-Man, without, as you said, beating you over the head with it, or outright quoting it. One of the strongest scenes to display this was turning down being an Avenger, but it was displayed in so many other great ways, as well. Great point!

[@cjflan32]

Who's "we?" All the kids who just watched Spider-Man for the first time have no clue who Ben Parker is. Not even mentioned. Try not assuming your opinion and knowledge is shared by everyone else.

[@cjflan32]

Boy that last line was great. Would've been even greater if they actually acknowledged it instead of just assuming the audience watched the last movie Spider-Man was in.

[@dickgrayson7453]

That rubble scene....... Gave me chills. SHUDDER..

[@Dandy12]

I think what a lot of ppl don’t get is that Tom’s spiderman isn’t supposed to be a 100% comic accurate version of the character. He is an MCU spiderman, supposed to fit into an already established universe and overarching storyline. Tom is by far my favorite spiderman bcs while some of his setting is comics inaccurate he FEELS (to me) to be the most accurate version of how spiderman is.

[@neuro3834]

HUH? THE BLUE IN HIS SUIT IS A SLIGHTLY DARKER BLUE THAN THE ONE IN THE COMICS? NO WAY! HOMECOMING IS A 0/10 WORST MOVID EVER

[@ecproductions66]

@@neuro3834 :|

[@DA11AZ]

@@neuro3834 :|

[@kittentheorangetabby9676]

Well considering you would have no MCU without the comics they might wanna stick a little closer to them. Spider-man is always, and I mean always portrayed as an unsure kid in every movie they have ever made about him. It's tiresome watching a kid trying to figure it all out over, and over. Yeah some acting might be better than others, however that doesn't hide the fact that they are all basically the same exact movie with the same plot. Kid gets powers doesn't know how to deal with that, and puberty at the same time, blah blah blah. Its the same fluff over and over. I want the real Spider-man. Not some silly kid who needs help all the time. For once I would like to see a movie with the real Spider-man. Experienced, confident, well versed in his own abilities and powers. The Spider-Man that can take on Venom, and Carnage at the same time, without any help. The Spider-Man that can defeat the Sinister Six on his own. I grow tired of the whole unsure silly kid act.

[@Dandy12]

@@kittentheorangetabby9676 good point, a really well done true to the character spiderman would be amazing.

[@captcorajus]

Great points. I totally picked up on the 'eye movements' with Spidey's costume as well, and thought the same thing: Now they can have him emote with his eyes just like in the comics!

[@jarrettkertesz8440]

I feel that the same thing helped Deadpool come to life. It's a little more subtle on DP (because his eyes are smaller), but the effect is the same. Need to rewatch both movies soon.

[@HeidiSony]

Me too! Like from CACW

[@tommerker8063]

i like it in this movie, but i still think it looks weird in civil war

[@antona.8659]

Can't wait to see Iron Man pull out rollerscates from his boots and slide from a mountain. That was in the comics, too, you know.

[@GoTfan-eb8tk]

They even have an excuse for it that works pretty well. Peter's senses, as he mentiones "have been dialled to 11", so the 'eyes' can help him filter out stimuli to keep him focused.

[@skye738]

I also feel like Tom Holland was a fantastic choice for the role.he delivers the character in such a loveable way and instantly makes you love him. Even my mom, who hates Spiderman as a superhero (she says he's 'wimpy'), got emotional during the death scene in Infinity War because he did such a phenomenal job of portraying a terrified kid who knows they're dying and is absolutely powerless to stop it. Tom's iteration of Spiderman is by far my favorite and may even be my #1 in the MCU, which is saying something because I've always been a Tony Stark kind of girl. He has most definitely been a breath of fresh air after the two previous incarnations.

[@LUCKO2022]

How is Spidey wimpy?? He is one of Marvel's best heroes???

[@buggablues]

Skye Hall call warbi love it so much and endgame and in Indy war too

[@geodude247]

He's by far the worst and wimpiest of the three incarnations. Like in endgame when he has to have the woman defend him because he's not strong enough to defend himself. They have turned him from one of the bravest superheroes to a scared little puppy.

[@adi-od9li]

Skye Hall he is so relatable to me. He is naive, but that’s how a kid should be. He looks like a kid, and he is exactly how I pictured spider man.

[@adi-od9li]

George Asher he is a kid, also I don’t think he is a scared little puppy because he literally jumps on moving planes, jumps off of super tall buildings, he fought Thanos, he stole captain America’s shield! Yeah he may not be a super strong, incredibly smart person but he’s a kid, and he’s relatable. Also I think Tom Holland is perfect for the part.

[@tylerz1944]

I wish they would make a avengers show just with the characters hanging out etc.

[@chocolatedepresso4658]

So... F•R•I•E•N•D•S? The Avengers version? ＼(^o^)／

[@eaglefan2569]

Prank Wars at the Compound with everyone would be a *_nightmare_* and I want it so badly. Everyone would try and enlist Peter and Loki on their side because Peter can prank the easiest and Loki can disappear. Most of the pranking would probably happen between Clint, Tony, Peter, and Thor. The others would just get caught in the crossfire and it would be absolutely beautiful. Domestic Avengers with everyone alive and well sounds like a blessing.

[@elbee3495]

@@chocolatedepresso4658 I would totally watch this!

[@kajjohnson5373]

That's the party scene in Age of Ultron

[@mdbruffy]

You got some of that in "Age of Ultron" when they all tried to lift Thor's hammer.

[@shrek5711]

How they fixed him? *they made Tom Holland spider man*

[@piethein4669]

Shrek 5 tobey > tom

[@kaytk1762]

@@piethein4669 tom > tobey

[@Weensho]

Piet Hein You’re not alone 100% agree

[@franziska9260]

Tom = Tobey. They're both cool. Different, but cool.

[@kait2444]

they are two different renditions of the character with positive and negatives on both actors Both were great but different to the other

[@juliette7151]

god, I LOVE the scene in which peter's stuck under the rubble and screaming for help. I've had very little prior contact with Spiderman, and like that was the moment I fell in love with the character tbh, because he sounded like a kid! he sounded just like a kid convinced he was gonna die! he sounded like a real person! and it wasn't like, oh, I'm Spiderman, so I can whoosh out of any difficult situation with my epic Spider powers 'cause I'm so cool---it was because he recognized that he was Spiderman with and without the suit and, as an addendum to this self-realization, he found strength in his choice of being Peter Parker and Spiderman at the same time and ohhhh my god I love that scene

[@TheSpaceJockey91]

It's so much better in the comics though.

[@helloperson7589]

Yeah that was a great scene

[@nathanielwilson5068]

PHILL SHIVELY he does later get that stuff

[@johnstewart9008]

It was a little cheesy...

[@UKMikey]

I'm glad it worked for someone new to Spider-Man as it does for people intimately familiar with the scene from comics.

[@mjtrace8391]

I get that Marvel movies are not perfect, but Im starting to realize the majority if their flaws are nitpicks because they have to be with such high quality products. Marvel is awesome and can’t wait until WB matches them in quality again.

[@tastycookiechip]

I wouldn't say they're nitpicks. There's about 3-4 good MCU movies and the rest are just forgettable and meh

[@ChrisMaxfieldActs]

@@tastycookiechip It's unclear what life changing revelations you are expecting from your superhero action adventure franchise, or why it's Marvel's obligation to provide them to you. The global box office belies your dismissals, and while none of the films are perfect, no movie is. And no comic book story ever was either.

[@mma6055]

@@tastycookiechip I used to think that too but endgame changed my mind

[@comicconcarne]

@@tastycookiechip There's enough of them that each person watching the franchise should have 3-4 that stand out to them. Was Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 one of the best? Not really, but it was the one that got my stepdad closest to crying because of Yondu.

[@politereminder6284]

@@tastycookiechip The key with Marvel is that their stories are character driven. It's not paint by numbers movie making. So even when a movie is not exciting, it is always clear and compelling storytelling.

[@lulubaaa]

They fixed it by casting irl peter Parker LMFAO

[@christopherbacon1077]

Except he's British.

[@DLxxx]

@@christopherbacon1077 There's more to Peter's character than his accent, lol. He can be posh and still embody a lot the characters main traits.

[@w.kamaranjoku1712]

Christopher Bacon not like he sound british in the movies

[@noodlerat6094]

Yeah Tom Holland is just as awkward as Peter Parker is supposed to be and stands just how I would imagine Peter to irl

[@azrael9578]

Irl?

[@ICLifeIA]

I literally didn’t notice that there wasn’t swinging in the movie

[@elisamozo3808]

Neither do I. I think most of the people didn’t miss those scenes

[@erikma5638]

there are swinging but not really that long or big probably because there aren't many tall buildings in queens

[@crazybl1tz88]

@@erikma5638 i can agree being a new yorker myself

[@gusmaiawork]

DC should've learn from this by now: we've seen Bruce Wayne's parents dying more then enough times

[@FF-oo8nz]

you only saw it twice and thats the most essencial event to the origin of Batman

[@cosmeticstm]

@@FF-oo8nz I'd agree tbh. His whole motivation is about his parent's death

[@mazzystars]

the only thing i like from dc is some of their movies (Aquaman and Shazam) and their shows. Their shows on CW are amazing and if you watch them (Then hi, how ya doing, I cant wait to watch the Arrow/flash season finales.) Im a woman of many fandoms lmao

[@mazzystars]

@@andrewkim9848 true lmao

[@hammerheadeagleithrustakag9289]

@@mazzystars no, no they arent, the cw shows are straight trash now

[@halogenn_]

Tom Holland portrays both Spiderman and Peter Parker perfectly. You can´t change my mind on this. It just feels right.

[@apexv5055]

Garbage Can Can Can we are all entitled to our wrong opinion

[@Wildcard-Jack-47]

Prince Pretty find about what an opinion is

[@Wildcard-Jack-47]

Hero PFC ok?

[@VincentEternal]

Jacky Boy sorry I didn’t mean to include your name in my comment

[@drcringe7873]

EXACLY! Tom Holland is the Peter Parker/Spider-man we comic-fans have been waiting for, for SOOOOOO long time. Now we want to see Tom Holland fighting Tom Hardy (Venom) in the next Spider-man movie!

[@outfluenza709]

Why does vulture seem like a perfect falcon villain

[@jollyjadentnt7963]

thats because they seem like they could be counterparts of each other and they fly and they're design is based bird-like animals.

[@shawerful5209]

Because he is a birdman Wait

[@saphire_flame]

People who dislike the movie: it wasn’t accurate to the comics and they destroyed Stan Lee’s material 😫 Literally Stan Lee himself: Oh, he's wonderful, I was with him the other day. He's great. I can't believe it. It's as if we created a living being to be Spider-Man and it turned out to be Tom. Really! People who dislike the movie: Psh, well, he’s, um... Ironman?

[@LORD-kg4sl]

Lol definetly half the fucking movie is of tony stark so of course its an iron boy movie

[@dr.sixpack300]

LORD Tony is in 3 Scenes, did you even watch it?

[@saphire_flame]

LORD I circle back to the fact that Stan lee adored Tom Holland as Spider-Man and he wrote the damn thing

[@LORD-kg4sl]

@@dr.sixpack300 3 scenes? In these two movies of spiderman both villans vulture and mysterio have some type of connection with stark lol.....those gadgets and all that technology shite makes me think am i watching a iron boy movie? Where is the feel of spiderman?mysterio and vulture wanted stark's technology.....spiderman was like his pet boy trying to stop them

[@Tuloco00]

1 Stan lee literally says that about every marvel actor he never once said anything bad about a marvel actor even in the bad movies 2 he’s iron man jr bc most of his problems are because of tony and tony is a replacement of uncle Ben 3 they changed all the core things of Spider-Man Spider-Man should have problems with cash girls and his alter ego they also changed mj into not even being Mary Jane and also everyone knows he’s Spider-Man which pretty much erases the his problems with girls his alter ego which is a core part of Spider-Man now he’s j Peter with a mask instead of Spider-Man/peter Parker

[@chrisj403]

Yeah the way they did the twist was just too damn perfect. There's a happy song in the background, Peter just got the girl, it shows him doing lots of fun little things, preparing for the dance. Its a fun scene, then when he goes to her house and sees who opens the door, you just know that both you, and Peter and thinking, "oh..shit!" And the car scene is amazing, what makes scenes scary is that first someone has to be demonstrated to have power, then they have to be on the verge of finding something out which will result in him using that power on our hero. All we think is, does he know? Its a brilliant scene.

[@immortalfrieza]

How It Should Have Ended kinda of ruined that scene for me though. I didn't notice it the first time I watched the movie, but they were right. Toomes had a gun, Peter has super reflexes and super strength, Peter was a total idiot in that movie but that took the cake.

[@bruceleeds7988]

What people never mention is the suit was also an obstacle in itself: The "Training Wheels" lock make Peter Feel inadequate, he breaks it to try prove he can handle adult issues. But It causes more problems, he is overwhelmed with hi tech, an "Instant Kill" option, Karen's AI has an adult tone, Bare in mind Tony Stark created "Her" Because he is not trained in using the suit, he can't maximize it's potential, he does well at the monument but the ship? it's just too much. So when the suit is taken he depends on the things he was ignoring in the beginning, His friend Ned (guy in the chair), he calls Happy, even though he was ignored he still did that first, and finally he uses both his powers and his intelligence to solve problems.

[@CombatSportsNerd]

Too freaking true

[@bruceleeds7988]

The Otaku Dragon Slayer Thank You

[@dizkylian1931]

Omg, yes!

[@signedbyauroraclark2305]

I have to agree, I feel like if the suit wasn’t incredibly high tech Peter never would’ve been able to learn. Like, he hacks into the suit and he gets in trouble for it and it shows further that he’s still a kid. That’s exactly something a teenager would do, appalled that they weren’t trusted even though they have all this power and I think it puts in Uncle Ben’s “with great power comes great responsibility” quote without having to say it.

[@ApexGale]

The suit was a crutch, Peter had forgotten what made him Spider-Man. He had forgotten that he was a Queens kid who was just trying to use his abilities to help out as best as he could and became too reliant on the suit as a core element of the hero he was. When Tony said "If you're nothing without the suit you shouldn't have it," he was being somewhat literal. If Peter is not Spider-Man without the suit, he should not have the suit to begin with. That's why it always irritates me when people say they don't like the hi-tech suit. The suit was an important part of Peter's character arc.

[@rtnote9394]

They fixed Spider-Man homecoming because they made it brighter and helped make it like a highschooler

[@selfloathinggameing]

Endgame spoilers go away The "spiderman is too much like an iron man junior" was all just foreshadowing tony starks death and we never noticed it two years ago

[@Vicky-di5kp]

Boom

[@Tuloco00]

That wasn’t foreshadowing that literally was j changing iron man into uncle Ben for Spider-Man

[@txird4576]

The Problem that’s literally what foreshadowing means

[@FlipFilms7928]

@@Tuloco00 no that’s different

[@Whateveridksomething]

@@Tuloco00 absolutely not, Ben still existed in this universe, without uncle ben Peter would still be that jerk that wants revenge and violence, you can see a lot of decisions in homecoming that spider man made that scream "with great power comes great responsibility" just because he's a mentor doesn't make him Uncle Ben

[@jameswhitley4101]

*mild spoilers, but nothing big if you watched the video already* One of my favorite parts was how, as mentioned earlier, a lot of the previous movies have Spider-Man in his best environment: downtown Manhattan, with tall buildings and lots of places to swing from. But here, they defy that: they constantly put him in the suburbs, on the Washington Monument, on a boat, on a _plane_, which are all places where he doesn't have as many places to swing from and is quite disadvantaged. And it _shows_ -- he as to try really hard to deal with his limitations and its great. None of the other movies ever really did that.

[@adamriggs2698]

Einar Amund and they were still better.

[@schlimetime4938]

+Adam Riggs not ASM2 that's for sure lol.

[@EJM1224]

Absolutely. And I loved how they directly addressed it too, when he's abandoning the party to find the original Shocker. He reaches a golf course, and there's nothing to swing off of, so he just runs for it. Obviously, it's a funny moment, but it's a nice way to make an audience think about such circumstances who wouldn't consider it otherwise.

[@EmperorSteele]

They did the suburb gag in the comics, too. iirc, He shoots a web up and it... goes nowhere, falling back to the ground. Meanwhile, an old lady is yelling at him and he just wants to get the heck out of there!

[@GoTfan-eb8tk]

It makes sense as well. In 2017, Peter and his aunt simply wouldn't have the income for a Manhattan apartment.

[@sxeptomaniac]

I think there's one more element that made Homecoming a much better Spiderman film: the whole movie is specifically about bringing down the high-stakes, world-saving superhero movies, to a more individual, personal level. As you touched on, the Spiderman movies needed that, badly, but so did the Marvel cinematic universe as a whole.

[@softsound9154]

yep

[@derricksmoove989]

The first one was pretty personal...

[@geminirox8635]

of course it couldnt be world saving. Tony literally says that in the movie. "we have people for this sort of thing" if it was world saving it wouldnt be a spiderman movie; it would be an avengers movie.

[@theangryseal5705]

derrick smoove sp1 & 2 were much more personal than homecoming...

[@chengkuoklee5734]

I think this is what MCU aiming with WandaVision, The Adventures of Sam & Bucky, Loki, Hawkeye.

[@KnightRaymund]

We won Mr. Stark.

[@koala201211]

Shut up

[@tupac-man8120]

vi von zulul

[@apetrey]

Wow! You even got Tobey Maguire to narrate the video! 👍

[@MLGEmeside]

my interpretation of the rubble scene is a little diffrent. The other action sequences he always is getting a assist from Stark via him personally or the suit. stripping him of everything for his final battle gives him the oppurtuinity to prove he is "more then his suit". everyone criticized this to be iron man lite and in that moment iron man wasent gonna show up so he had to be his own man. He didnt just become Spiderman there but just simply a man. That final sequence made the movie a spiderman movie not a iron man lite flick.

[@chilledfire4569]

MLG Emeside Diet Ironman or Ironman Zero?

[@paolosiapno]

boneless iron man

[@richyrich7260]

Well said! That scene was awesomely powerful.

[@Bat-talk]

Papa Ult he gets the suit back

[@krdjmtc]

Putting the Man in Spider-Man. You can squish a spider, but you cannot squish a man.

[@grimmSOL]

I enjoyed this rendition of Spidey, because he was so believable as both Spidey AND Peter Parker. The latter is where so many movies were flawed in its execution of the character. Holland's Spidey/Parker is believable because of so many things... his anxiousness to be get out of school and throw on the suit, hiding his extra gear under a locker, and so much more. And, I like how he grows into the character. He's obviously immature, being only 15, but he shows great strength of character just as often, if not more so. Not to mention, the evolution of his character, and the maturation of his outlook as Spidey was so well delivered. I really can't wait to see a more of this character, and a more experienced Spider-Man in the sequels. Its only going to get better.

[@Excalibur-Sonic]

I so agree.

[@eldestboat0159]

“I’m not saying spider man homecoming is perfect” I am.

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

That's what I said in my mind when he said that. : ) Maybe it has some flaws, but they are so small I have a hard time remembering they exist.

[@batshineman174]

Eldestboat 015 High Top Films would like to have a word with you.

[@veronicamcatee6171]

Yo keep high top films name out your mouth

[@batshineman174]

@@veronicamcatee6171 Make me

[@veronicamcatee6171]

@@batshineman174 bruh you disrespecting hitop don't respond and go beat your meat be careful tho 😉 don't want you to get hurt tho small things can hurt

[@mso6738]

Spider-Man talking so much is just like Deadpool talking to himself, film watches and comic book readers which could be a reason they were always brought together in different storylines

[@ZombieChimpanzee]

the scene when Toomes answered the door got the biggest reaction from me in the theater. because the first half second after he opens the door I was thinking "oh no, he's got Liz and her mom hostage." then I thought "wait, why's he dressed so casually? wait a second... NO! NO! THAT IS NOT HAPPENING! NO!" and I burst out in genuine laughter at the hilarious misfortune and coincidence of Peter's situation. his date's dad was the guy who for the past few days or weeks had been trying to kill him. that moment and the awkward pictures and uncomfortable car ride were my favorite parts of the movie. also, this movie doesn't feel the need to have the heroes' life perfect at the end. Peter loses the girl. Aunt May finds out he's spider-man. Peter isn't an avenger. and I think that's partially owed to the nature of Spider-man, he's a character who's life is always being struck by misfortune or bad luck, he's not like Superman or Iron Man who life seems to give a break to frequently, Peter has the luck of a nerdy high schooler, which is pretty terrible. the movie was able to capture Spider-man's essence well. also, this movie had the best easter eggs, connections, and references to the MCU at large. Iron Man was in much less of the movie than I expected. he was a presence felt not a person present in most of the story. Captain America's school PSAs were hilarious and showed the legacy and influence he had on american culture. all of the names dropped in the film, every named student is some sort of minor player in spider-man, Betty Brant, Ned Leeds, Flash Thompson, and the minor villains, the scorpion was set up. Aaron Davis as Miles Morales's uncle, confirming Miles's existence. the avengers masks on the bank robbers. I enjoyed this movie a lot.

[@Ninjagnome66]

Carl Deaton I always found Spiderman to be interesting cause of the bad luck. He isn't rich or taken care of like other superheroes. Other heroes are able to take the suit off and relax. When Peter takes off the suit after a long day, he has to worry about school, his job, his relationships, and tries to keep his promises (which he usually fails). He's constantly in a struggle to keep up with everything because of all of his responsibilities.

[@alflemon2783]

Carl Deaton I really liked the moment Michael Keaton opened the door. It's like Plot Twist 101 but the execution was so well done that I did not see that coming.

[@ZombieChimpanzee]

was your reaction laughter too?

[@pokewiz309]

My reaction was "Ah shit."

[@URBEXPhilippines]

ME TOO.

[@daniellen8573]

It also helped that they had a great actor like Tom Holland who was actually familiar with Spiderman and the comics

[@mrmanakin9684]

Tom Hollund's performance sucked

[@lottie2989]

venomouscarnage How? Lmao. He plays a teenager perfectly.

[@dpage446]

Unidentified Flying Potato Tom holland sucked because he was better than tobey maguire,that makes people butthurt

[@mrmanakin9684]

No its because peter parker is not a 15 year old. He was like an 18 year old in the comics, also Tom hollund's performance was laughable. He sucked at being peter parker. The only butthurt person is you.

[@mrmanakin9684]

Also peter parker is american, not british. Stupid fucking movie

[@RiseUpToYourAbility]

I always wondered why the lizard wanted to turn the city into lizards. He probably wanted to find his perfect lizard mate.

[@nesiyacp8395]

Got 'em

[@chriswentz5197]

I havent watched TASM1,i only played the TASM game,Which its a TASM 1.5,But didnt they said That becoming a lizard would make everyone asexual and plus be able to reproduce without a mate?

[@edogawaconan945]

@@chriswentz5197 he is joking but you are right, I think🤔

[@tranquiloclub50]

This video has aged HORRIBLY

[@shadowstrike234]

nah

[@TSGPhilipp]

why? Far from home was even better than homecoming

[@thenotorioustaha]

Lol not at all

[@thenotorioustaha]

I don't understand you guys. What's your point ? What do you want to see in a Spider-Man movie ? THIS IS LITERALLY SPIDER-MAN WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM HIM ?

[@thenotorioustaha]

@@TSGPhilipp while I personally like Homecoming more I feel like Far From Home improved on Spider-Man's CGI and there were better action sequences.

[@hyperbiscuit2284]

Basically, while Marvel hasn't made any perfect movies, they've never made a bad movie, just good ones , great ones, and amazing ones.

[@gub4941]

And oooookay ones (like Thor dark world)

[@constellation3164]

*cough* what about the hulk movie *cough*

[@gub4941]

Washing Machine 洗濯機 that was universal

[@gub4941]

Than again going by that logic it makes spider man homecoming a Sony movie

[@dsuki4416]

Cough iron man 3 cough

[@nickpesh]

Dude. great breakdown. Another problem the fancy suit fixed is his making webs of all shapes and sizes. Sure in the comic book it was easily accepted, but in non-animated video it makes my plothole sense tingle.

[@agonleed3841]

nickpesh yeah but that's the problem. If it was accepted in the comics, it SHOULD be accepted in a non animated movie also. It's dumb to always try to apply real world shit to comics. Not talking shit about the way the movie did it. Talking shit about the people thst would talk shit about the movie had the movie not done it.

[@justbny9278]

nickpesh web shields,web balls that hurt(?)....

[@BlazeFire6]

THIS VIDEO IS 5 YEARS OLD! Man I feel old

[@tanishqkhurana8721]

I was low on salt and decided to sort comments by new and DAMN IT WAS WORTH IT LMAO

[@chriswentz5197]

I needed salt because i had a bbq,Instead of Buying salt i just put a beef in this comment section,It tasted great lmao

[@bilinski2546]

If I were one of the people behind this movie I'd be thankful that someone actually appreciate the little things that we made to make the movie special. You definitely did in this video. grrat job. really informative and unique.

[@primeholyassasin20]

Imho, Spiderman homecoming is the most down to earth of the recent live action spiderman movies. Both the maguire and garfield movies seemed to aspire for an operatic grandeur, but homecoming feels like a john hughes movie, with million dollar marvel action scenes here and there, of course. It's a humbler spiderman, but that's also what makes it unique.

[@scumbagbenis3015]

being mentored by tony stark, having a billion dollar suit, and going to a school for geniuses is more down to earth than a poor, angsty teen who's just down on his luck while trying to take up keep his life? but if that's seriously that's what you relate to more then more power to you ig

[@hillarywoo4977]

@@scumbagbenis3015 I do understand that some aspects of Homecoming definitely took away from how relatable Peter Parker is, but I put that down to needing to make him fit into the universe. The suit was pretty well-explained in this video, and the mentoring deal set up Infinity War and Endgame nicely. The STEM school, I think, was just to explain how a teenager could build his own web-shooters. However, at the end of the day, the Parker luck is still there. He gets detention, can't even go on one date with Liz, gets his suit taken away, and then his aunt finds out he's Spiderman. He's got some more people in his corner now, but he's still very much the downtrodden guy from Queens.

[@ollikoskinen1]

I really liked that the Homecoming was more "down to Earth" than most other Marvel movies. The others have decades old conspiracies, killer robots, aliens with galaxy-wide ambitions, other dimensional deities and whatnot. What is Peter's problem? A criminal boss selling weapons and not getting taken serious about it.

[@eaglefan2569]

The other thing is it still makes the "lesser" scenes and crimes significant. You don't need alien abductions or crazy doctors to tell a good story; the entire conflict is literally a blue collar construction worker running a black market and stealing scraps from other fights, then using it as profit. There's no saving the world kind of deal; at best he just saves lives and a lot of equipment from being taken, and it's so grounded and refreshing. They didn't need big stakes events that a "neighborhood" hero needed to solve like the other two iterations; they pulled off the lesser stake events much better AND made it feel like it mattered, because it mattered to Peter. That, and I like that there's no killing the villain and a bunch of civilian casualties. There's not even any anger or indifference in Peter towards the possibility of Toomes dying in the explosion. Even though Toomes tried killing him NUMEROUS TIMES (and almost succeeded in many of them), Peter still refused to let Toomes die, which morally hits where comics Peter tends to land.

[@politereminder6284]

@@scumbagbenis3015 whereas I find the Raimi /Mc Guire Spiderman more exciting, I still think MCU spidey ismore real. He acts like a real teenager. Angsty≠ realistic . He is still poor, he still lives with tragedy, but he doesn't have to wear it as a constant badge. Genius schools exist, people go to them, especially geniuses like Parker. His genius in science is part of his backstory and character. That doesn't make him unrelateable.

[@Drake5607]

I like what you said about Spider-Man generally having smaller stories. There was a X-men series were the Earth was going to be destroyed by an indestructible giant magic bullet with psychic ability that made the heroes believed that they successfully stopped it. One of the heroes that snapped out of it the quickest was Spider-Man... "How could I stopped this giant bullet using web?" ... yep, Earth destroying problems are not generally made for Peter to solve and he knows it :) I don't know, it stayed with me :)

[@emhasswag]

“ONLY BECAUSE TOBEY WAS FIRST, IT DOESN’T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE HIS MOVIES THE BEST”

[@Nadie47]

Tobey is always gonna be the legacy of movie Spider-Man. Doesn't mean those movies were the best.

[@Furcapper]

@@Nadie47 You're right. That being said Spiderman 2 is still the best of the bunch.

[@chriswentz5197]

3.....2.......1.... Weird,I dont see any Tobey fanboy screaming about how Tobey being the best and that Tom spidey is Iron Boy jr,Even thought in his 2 solo movies his entire arc is getting off tony shadow but still taking on his legacy

[@moltenpie-_-4655]

Ya he is the best spiderman cause he is the best spiderman not cause he's the oldest

[@itsamemario5874]

Some people are overwhelmed, others were underwhelmed! Why can’t anybody just be WHELMED!?

[@monzur1947]

It’sa me mario because this isn't DC.

[@tabguru4388]

Hhhahahahaaa you are so spot onnnnn Mario

[@navikukreja5688]

I see u with ur young justice reference. And I respect itn

[@Wrex28]

It’sa me mario is this a grace helbig reference 👀

[@breaddragon7616]

We need to take a page out of Bianca’s book.

[@najpotenicewolf934]

This is why I love modern Marvel movies so much. Becuse they didn't portrait characters just as heroes. They also portrait them as people with humor, fears, flaws and overall personality. :3

[@richardbourton4523]

Marvel just seems to get how to make appealing characters that people want to spend time with again and again. People aren’t flocking to see the next Thor film for example because they can’t wait to see what Thor hits next with Mjolnir/Stormbreaker, they’re going because they genuinely care about the character and that’s true for almost every character in the exceptionally large cast (some truly are a bit bland but in such a huge cast that in itself is amazing enough). Seeing Endgame in cinemas here in the UK (where clapping and cheering in cinemas is not really a thing at all) it was wonderful to see how invested people truly are in their beloved heroes. It seems to be why other studios just can’t get a functional cinematic universe started. They think people want to see one movie that will connect to another movie but we don’t, we want to love characters the way we love the MCU characters. Endgame spoilers ahead: People literally cheered at the return of Black Panther and Spider-Man on both occasions that I saw endgame. They weren’t even doing anything, people were just so pleased to see them return because Marvel has crafted characters that people really respond to. It’s incredible work.

[@mahchestro9144]

@Bruno Jimmy The movie is still not as bad as people seem to think it is because Brie Larson said a bad thing. Woopidy fucking doo. Welcome to Hollywood you twat. Captain Marvel is a mediocre movie. Not good and not bad. Just meh. People who claim that it's "The worst movie ever" or "The best movie ever" are fucking delusional and might actually need their seeds be taken away from them so they can't procreate.

[@user-op6kt8pg9y]

@@mahchestro9144 I just don't think brie Larson can act which was shown in endgame when she makes one expression all film and even that smirk at the start didn't even look like one also when she acts surprised when she fights thanos, she can not act at all

[@mahchestro9144]

@@user-op6kt8pg9y You saying that let's me know you don't watch movies. From the movies i've seen her in: 21 Jump Street, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, Room and even Kong: Skull Island. She's pretty good. It's the material that sucks. You just want someone to blame and it's easy to blame her cause she said a bad thing. Boo fucking hoo.

[@user-op6kt8pg9y]

@@mahchestro9144 never once did I mention what she said stop using that as a Scape goat to try prove a non existent point idc what she said it doesn't matter when it comes to films also all those you meantioned are either very serious or funny she's a one dimensional actress who can't portray more than one emotion per role I've seen all of those movies mentioned the only one that I'll give her credit for is 21 jump Street but she was there to basically play herself minus the drugs and illegal stuff

[@fishyfish6510]

As a guy who grew up watching Spider-Man be "The Hero" in the Trilogy, Spider-Man Animated Series, Spectacular Spider-Man it was hard watching Homecoming, it felt like he was held back bc of being part of the MCU. But after watching Into The Spiderverse, I finally accepted that this was a very different Spiderman.

[@anitanielsen1061]

It’s so refreshing to see someone DEFEND MCU Spidey😌

[@MrJoesquarepants]

Nice video, great point! I like how you explained at the end where Peter is lifting that whole ceiling on him that we are watching "Peter" not Spidey who thinks he's about to die. That cry for help gave me chiils, man!

[@ashleylamar3727]

Joe Santos that cry made the scene one of my favorites. It was perfect for Spider man being humanized as Peter (erasing the difference between them to Peter himself). My second favorite scene was when Peter found out that Liz was the daughter of his first major villain. That pause, his nervousness, and fear was perfect.

[@darioux007]

I like the way he didn't mention DC even once to make a contrast. That shows how well this guy knows his shit. *Claps*

[@Wintrelic]

DC and Marvel are seperate franchises, yes they both are based on the original comics and about superheores saving the world. But they cover different aspects etc, so it's good he didn't compare as they are completely different. It's like saying if he was talking about Star Wars, he'd have to contrast it to Star Trek? A lot of people compare and fight over if DC or Marvel is better :c when they are both equally good in their own right.

[@Wintrelic]

Didn't mean for it to sound defensive oops, i'll edit it so no one else takes it the wrong way c:

[@tristencarranza416]

My name is Irrelevant the fuck is wrong with you and people like you?

[@yuzucampo]

My name is Irrelevant No need for hostility. If you're gonna hate the DCEU, hate the production company (Warner Bros.) instead. They completely fucked it over by rushing the films and not giving a shit about the fans in general, unlike Disney with Marvel. Had the films been paced better, DCEU could've been on par with MCU in a few years after a few solo movies.

[@warrior1563]

Dario Urbaez nothing beats TDK tho, still the best currently, not even Logan, dp 2 or IW

[@lacr1386]

KZbin commentator: I'm sick Spider Maguire: I missed the part where that's my problem

[@noodlerat6094]

They mainly fixed it by casting someone who looks more Peter Parker's age and him being just as awkward and childish as Peter is supposed to be, Tom Holland just really fits the role of Peter Parker perfectly.

[@vietnamd0820]

I actually thought Homecoming was a perfect Spider-Man movie. It's the only movie I can think of where the fan service elements of the film made me respect the movie makers more. The use of the Ramones in the soundtrack, the cartoon end credits scene and showing an actual scene in Woodside, New York (where both I and the fictional Peter Parker live in)

[@mynameisjeff1982]

Jay Mike ur crap

[@rysun8709]

A shitty movie by no name director

[@mafeuk]

They use the most obvious songs for the soundtrack. Also, at what school prom nowadays would they dance to 80s music like in this film?

[@vietnamd0820]

Rubbur Chicken I would've preferred a Ramones song that hasn't been so overplayed, but still pleased to hear the Ramones

[@CristianPsychoGamer]

High School age Peter Parker lived in Forest Hills.

[@vg8527]

Toby was amazing as Peter Andrew KILLED it as Spiderman But Tom... Tom made me shed literal tears when he died in Infinity War. When he died (which I know he’s not really dead) I didn’t see an actor die, I saw spider man I saw Peter Parker I saw ME I saw my childhood wither to ashes because he embodied both personalities so well and for that reason I honestly think he’s the overall best incarnation.

[@crystalcollision5432]

lmao i literally could not stop crying the minute i got into the car i was a mess

[@emanuelsamaan4993]

Andrew Garfield was awful. They should have never gone with a reboot. Especially with him.

[@legend2533]

& & I don't think Andrew Garfield is even that good as spider-man

[@pianobat2827]

LEGEND 25 I do agree. But I'll be honest I cringe with Tobey maguire as well because he acts "too" awkward even as Spider-Man. Also I feel like his bad luck is kinda forced waaaaay too much unless plot demands it, however I do know he has bad luck but not THIS much. Don't get me wrong I am a fan of the original trilogy (I grew up with it) but Spider-Man is only serious when it demands it and Homecoming proved it (the original Spider-Man only made a handful of jokes and some weren't all that funny, more like cute and awkward). Spider-Man is always a jokester even in combat. Holland nailed both being an awkward pleaser to his mentors and joking around as Spider-Man. HE FUCKING PLAYED AROUND WITH THANOS OF ALL PEOPLE!!!!!

[@ojaycandraw1945]

explain how he was awful, when people say this i always ask how but nope they cant he's OK and thats fine

[@Draystah]

The Vulture is actually the main villain Raimi wanted in Spiderman 4. A villain no one took seriously but upgraded for the film to be a true foe. This is almost exactly the film Raimi wanted to make back in the day.

[@dayshawnking3573]

He was actually going to be put in Spider-Man 3, but you know, Avi Arad.

[@edogawaconan945]

@@dayshawnking3573 the Spiderman 3 originally want to focus on Sandman but someone( I don't remember the name) force them to include Venom in it

[@OfficialMosa]

People wont see how much better Tom's Spider-Man is cause they wont take of their nostalgia glasses

[@nintenvlogz]

yeah.. the first 2 raimi movies are pretty good but come on guys

[@joeda900]

@@nintenvlogz Yeah I thouht Spider-Man 1 and Spider-Man 2 were good but I honestly prefered Spider-Man 3 and is my favorite of the trilogy

[@Nadie47]

SM1 was too campy for my tastes with, but SM2 was the peak of Spidey

[@iamthecone3469]

the rubble scene is my favorite scene in any spider-man film

[@eddiediaz5518]

PizzaTimeStudios "Come on Peter!" "Come one Spider-Man!"

[@franciscojaviermontecinosc9379]

PizzaTimeStudios indeed! it was so intense!!!!😃 i almost peed a little hahahaa

[@Flamebolt100]

You like it because its straight from the comics

[@franks8863]

PizzaTimeStudios it was pretty emotion. My favorite scene in a Spider-Man film was when peter tells Ben "I'm spiderman no more" in spiderman 2

[@iamthecone3469]

yeah thats my second favorite and then third is the train fight scene from spider-man 2

[@HalfShelli]

Wow! This was by far the most thoughtful, intelligent, and insightful breakdown I've seen on KZbin, not just about Spider-Man: Homecoming, but about any movie! Really excellent job. You've got one more well-earned subscriber!

[@anitanielsen1061]

Hilarious how JJJ is the ad’s narrator considering he’s both anti-Spider-Man AND barely popped up AT ALL before the end of Far from Home XD

[@vessel4thelordjesus]

This is the best review I have watched in a long time, very thoughtful and thorough. God Bless

[@TomEbbsjamasteroids]

this sonds like tobey maguire is talking about spiderman

[@captainmidnight]

LOL I've decided to take that as a compliment.

[@eugeniasilverio9700]

yeah.. you sounded like him.. :D it's like i am watching a documentary which is narrated by him.. great video!!

[@SpelITube]

HOLY SHIT BRUH

[@Conv1cti0n]

i swear i was the only one that thought that!!!!!!! his voice sounds almost identical.

[@StardustTCG]

Tomas Ebbs that's what I thought to lmao

[@dhiloviawookie]

what a good explanation! homecoming is the most enjoyable spiderman movie for me. I think what's make it enjoyable is the fact that we can see the character mature. he's a kid who wants to be a hero and in his world being an avenger means he's being recognize as one, ofc he tries so hard to impress tony. and no, he doesn't depend on his suit as u can see in the movie, whenever he tries to use the high tech, it's always end up in disaster and he go back to basic

[@narutouciha8191]

hae bunda

[@TheTrueHolyDarkness]

Best Spiderman movie since Spiderman 2 for certain. The fix is in.

[@rysun8709]

This shit sucks ballz

[@windghost2]

Ry Sun If you think it sucks then leave instead of commenting on this thread.

[@AimForMyHead81]

Reginaldus Moes moon nothing wrong with sharing an opinion

[@LilChuunosuke]

I almost removed my like from this video so many times because I was so stunned with your great analysis that I went to hit the like button and forgot I already clicked it!

[@mazzystars]

Wow. your commentary is spot on. I agree with you, I used to never like Spider-Man but Homecoming changed it for me and I just love Peter Parker now

[@TheMrfizzyrocks]

I feel like they made Spideys new suit have the AI for a few reasons. 1. He's taken under Tony Starks wing so it makes sense that he is given an advanced suit considering Tony has the most high tech suits on earth. 2. It gives us the opportunity to understand his thought process and how he feels inside without monologuing like in the Raimi trilogy. Hes able to speak to the AI and give his thoughts about his current situation as well as vent out any sort of moral dilemmas like revealing his identity. 3. It's something fresh and new in the Spider-Man universe, they're trying new things with his character which is good.

[@AskTheLemon]

AI suit sucks for fans but makes sense in universe :/

[@BiffcheeseSpinoccoli]

It’s actually part of the comic history, leading into Civil War.

[@IndecisiveJR]

Mr. Aziz I get why they did it though. Spider-Man was really overrated by the time Civil War and Homecoming came round and they thought the General audience probably wouldn’t want as much drama as the previous movies especially drama and themes we’ve seen multiple times in both Spider-Man and the amazing Spider-Man films and they were probably right. I mean many elements are missing because they had been done. Swinging through the city, Spider-sense, etc. besides Spider-Man is still young and has like two more movies to go I’m sure there will be more dramatic weight in future movies.

[@wowanothercookie]

I liked the idea, and I think it does help the story, but it could've been a little less powerfull. Sure, there were some funny scenes with "wich one of the 999+ modes would you like", but it just doesn't need to be so strong. Spiderman is agile, clever and creative, a tad less tech-based abilities would've been better.

[@vampman87]

I just like how the Vulture actually has a reason for his villainy.

[@ChrisBrogan]

Just binged a whole lot of your videos in a row. Great stuff. Thanks for what you're out here doing. :)

[@GIRGHGH]

Every sentence sounds like you lean back in your chair after having your elbows on your knees and give an intense look of spite.

[@Bishey]

Some great and unique opinions. Everyone seems to agree that Marvel fixed Spider-Man but your reasons for why made the most sense to me. Great video!

[@Nico-dt5hu]

Göktuğ hai

[@Shenruss]

Göktuğ You should watch Jax Blades review; he went full detailed Spider-Man fan boy on it. If I have to be honest, though, I'm not quite sure how to feel about this movie, especially considering the positive aspects of the first reboot.

[@stevisburntin2094]

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[@devrimdogaaydemir]

im a simple man, when i see turkish comment, i press thumbs up.

[@hemanthsingh7202]

Göktuğ I agree with you I was convinced this deep down to my gut watching this video.

[@josa177]

Quality content right here. It's impressive tbh, so many people trying to do this kind of content but ultimately are just trying to milk Marvel. Everything here makes sense and even as someone that has just seen the movies i understood perfectly what you were talking about. You definitely know what you're talking about and it really shows, you're also really good at conveying that information without pushing your opinion while still keeping it in there. Amazing video, congratulations!

[@lucifer.m]

I like to see this positive stuff. Aspecially since for some reason, videos have been showing up on my timeline of "everything wrong with...". I dont click on them, but its just too much negativity..

[@nolanmartin4813]

So you cant listen to differing opinions? I sat thru this and im not scarred or affected.

[@lucifer.m]

@@nolanmartin4813 thats not what im saying. I said its good to be positive sometimes, instead of listing all the bad things. Ive listened to opinions, yeah. Sometimes i agree, yeah. But just get that negativity out of the way and look at the good things in life. I also didnt say i felt affected, not by this nor by the negative videos.

[@sesereddead465]

Nolan Martin why do some guys people try to twist people’s words to make them seem unreasonable?

[@jollyjadentnt7963]

me too

[@jiisdown2195]

@@lucifer.m CinemaSins? There's also CinemaWins fyi

[@JernosComicsPopCulture]

WOW! You absolutely get it! I really appreciated your break down. Someone who has seemed to have read all the comics, and truly understands why the MCU Peter Parker is the MOST accurate on screen portrayal yet.

[@Marxyon]

I love those cuts to old Spider-Man contant

[@matthewthompson4621]

You put Michael Keaton in anything. ANYTHING. and the movie's gonna be at least decent

[@rager5600]

Even that McDonald's movie

[@crashTestGuru]

@@rager5600 yes, even that movie

[@bounty8438]

Cough cough. *(Robocop 2014)* cough cough

[@ShaunHensley]

Michael Keaton don’t want no scrubs

[@christopherhudson8437]

Somebody never saw Multiplicity.

[@janetanderson4448]

I read a comic just about Miles and Peter as Spider-Man trying pizza. They stopped a few low life criminals and that was it. It was just a fun Spider-Man comic.

[@KateCat420]

I actually didn't notice how much the eyes bothered me in the other spiderman trilogies until you pointed out how that made sure Holland could move them here - I do still love the other trilogies, but the ability to emote with the mask on is definitely one of the things I love about this interpretation of the character

[@JackKnapp2]

You've got great editing for a guy with 3k subs

[@pratikmore2885]

he has 8k now !

[@josephdada2285]

9k now!!

[@Ruuwalc]

jesus, he has 11k now! almost quadrupled it within 3 weeks

[@ZachBobBob]

15K

[@drunkenrobot3976]

16k

[@4589dude]

If every Marvel movie had a memorable score and effectively beautiful color grading the MCU would pretty much be the perfect Superhero film franchise

[@emanfarouk7115]

and doctor strange as well black panther seems so beautiful in the trailers as well

[@LastTorgoInParis]

I don't really understand the importance of color grading so I'm just going to enjoy the films like I always do

[@PercivalQyou]

Trustworthy Dr Torgo civil war looks bland because of the color grading, sometimes the color grade can be an important tool for the story to capture the audience and immerse them into the world.

[@LastTorgoInParis]

Seems more like a conscious effort by the filmmakers to set it in the real world. when I walk outside I see buildings cars normal stuff not an explosion of color. Hell I can watch black and white films and still feel immersed in it like it is a real world setting

[@4589dude]

That's probably why they do it like that, but they can still get away with some more color grading without sacrificing that theme of 'realism'. Also Idk about you guys but the Avengers theme music is original to them and I found it very memorable. I hum that tune every once in a while and I love it

[@montycantsin8861]

I'm so glad you caught and included that scene that was taken from issue 33. Probably one of my favorites!

[@midlifemamaspeakupmama2047]

This was so very well done. You have earned a new subscriber and thank you

[@omg_cosmic]

U kinda sound like Toby McGuire when he's monologuging lol

[@edward4840]

TheCosmicLad except not awkward…

[@VDOTU5]

Glad someone else noticed! I feel less crazy!

[@nicholasreif3443]

Came to the comments to look for this.

[@shauryasingh9725]

THAT is the only thing I wanted in Homecoming and the new Spider-Man in general. Tobey's was awkward but Tom could probably nail it.

[@ubermensch9179]

Who am I? You sure you want to know? The story of my life is not for the faint of heart

[@kaleb749]

Homecoming may not have been incredibly deep or noticeably unique, but it was one of the truest on screen interpretations of Spider-Man ever. Because of this, I think it is one of Marvel’s best movies.

[@adrmax3292]

DA yet stan lee said he was the most perfect spiderman?

[@jaybook1281]

DA he’s similar to Ultimate Spider-Man so yeah

[@DJWALK]

look Stan Lee is a god but he said that to endorse the movie Homecoming was no where near close to a accurate comic Spiderman maybe the Ultimate version and even then thats a stretch honestly Homecoming was just them doing their own thing with the character and thats ok but no its no where near comic accurate

[@jaybook1281]

Djjeezy he’s definitely like Ultimate Spider-Man and thats hardly a stretch at all. Only thing he doesn’t have in common yet is having everything seemingly go wrong for him and working for the Bugle.

[@adrmax3292]

@@DJWALK are you dumb or just some conspiracy theorist off the web

[@jeppefrolund1718]

Thanks for putting words to some scrambled thoughts I had a hard time expressing myself. Raimi Spidey 1+2 made a huge impact on me, having been a Spidey fan since early childhood, and I felt that love kind of stepped all over with Raimi 3 and Webb 1+2. Homecoming and in particular Holland felt like a solid return to some of the core features I've enjoyed about Spiderman, and your video put it into perspective even more. Makes me excited about the next installment.

[@velocityrapture7047]

But seeing Spider-Man swing through new york city is awesome

[@revolutionarycinemaproduct6612]

6:54 you have a very very good point. i love how Homecoming was not a huge beam of light made up of some earth shattering disease or toxin into the sky, but instead just Spider-Man stopping the vulture from stealing, because its the right thing to do. and its amazing. it truly defines what makes Peter Parker, (the REAL Spider-Man) Spider-Man. it shows us that even in overwhelming odds, and a crime that is almost entirely pathetic compared to loki trying to take over earth, and its great. its really really awesome how small of a scale this movie has. there are definitely some big moments that are in the public eye, but overall its just Peter trying to do the right thing, and its beautiful really.

[@robertoliver711]

tony basically made spiderman i wouldnt be suprised if the spider was a stark experiment what was cool about spiderman was that he could be anyone but now marvel ripped was as so great about spiderman in place of spoiled annoying wining brat

[@4dualshock]

it shows responsibility,so much so that even stark told him to let the big guys handle it and he should just chill and do small time things if anything it reallly gave meaning to uncle ben's final words to peter about great responsibility coming with great power, something that even stark doesn't understand

[@Lhikan634]

@robert oliver Remember, this isn't really the beginning of Spider-Man's adventures in the MCU. He already had his powers before Civil War so has gone through a certain amount of the responsibility thing off-screen. One main reason for Stark is for the Iron Spider suit from the comics, which Petey will need for Infinity War. Spidey was needed for Civil War, so he was rushed in and made to fit where the MCU is now. Plus, a major point of the movie was that Peter had to earn the suit due to making mistakes (the kind Tony saw had resulted in the Sokovia Accords and the Avengers' Civil War).

[@journeyofjosh]

i would say that the A.I. suit is my biggest complaint, but i wouldn't even call it a complaint. it's just like, ehhh reallyy?? but in the context of a hollywood movie, it's fine because movie versions always go over the top, AND i think it solved more issues than it created. for example, in previous spidey movies, how does he get such a nice looking costume if he presumably made it himself? this is totally solved by having tony stark gift spidey a nice techy suit. cuz the one he made himself charmingly looks like shit and the a.i. one looks like how we would think a spidey suit would look. plus the "iron spider" suit in avengeres looks siiiiickkkkk

[@yarsftks]

I can't seem to find the problem with the suit. It might be the simple fact that i watched "Ultimate Spiderman" on DisneyXD, where he's really techie, i mean, spider-buggie? He embodies every aspect of spiderman and all its various. Kinda like a Spidey crash course for noobs like me. So this clip talks about how they miss his self-talking aspect from previous movies and use the AI in the suit to explain that, i doubt its a problem. I mean, the Deadpool movie didn't seem to have that problem, nor the eyes moving problem, and the everyday, mundane parts of life. (That unicorn had it coming). So they could have Spiderman talking to the camera and break the 4th wall like in Deadpool, but even the cartoon version didn't shy away from the fact that there are parts of Spiderman that aren't known and they did a good job in bringing as much of the character from the comics to the show as possible. They knew they couldn't address everything. They skipped the spiderbite and the old, helpless aunt May by making her a hip, cool and healthy version of her so that they can focus on other parts and while they mention uncle Ben, they rarely came across the fact that he was shot and focused more on the legacy. Even without the mask, hes the Spiderman we all see in ourselves and want to be. I want to be a Tom Holland too.

[@Theycallmethek3]

I agree i look past it but im a traditionalist for spiderman and his skills not being assisted

[@kinawa2845]

Tht's how i felt too like at first i was ....Oh, really?.. then when i saw how karen and him being all talkative and stuff I just enjoyed it XDD It's cute to watch how karen responded to him AND ikr? Tht suit is sickk

[@politereminder6284]

@@yarsftks I agree. Although I enjoyed the aunt May update. The older aunt May always seemed unrealistically grandmotherish to me.

[@nolanmartin4813]

Brings up the fact that all the avengers should have enhanced ai suits. If tonys ai tech can be put in a onesie, who couldn't natasha have one? Or clint or any nonpowered hero? Comics are fun until you bring them into the real world.

[@caitlindn]

What I like about Spidey in the MCU is that we're shown how he got his upgraded suit. He's poor and has no means to create it himself, and Tony giving it to him is a perfect explanation for him having it. We see how he gets in and out of his suit and where he leaves his clothes. This is in contrast to the OG Spideys where it's never really explained. Okay we see Peter draw his suit in his room, but we don't actually know where or how he got the fabric etc. to actually create it. Also we see that he wears his suit under his clothes, which is fine, but we don't see where he leaves his clothes and gets back into them. This is a nitpick on the OG movies, that are great for the rest (except 3). I'm just glad they show in Homecoming how it works 'behind the scenes' of being Spidey.

[@dwightshrute17]

Well Holland's suit is a state of the art stark enchanced multi billion dollar suit. So if course it needs an explanation. Maguires suit for example is a lot more simple. It looks amazing but it would be boring if a scene was him just buying material

[@dwightshrute17]

@Sidney J. Duffy it does look expensive, but in it's defense it was one of the first seriously good super hero films. It's what started super hero films being good

[@oa-san53]

@@dwightshrute17 No, i think what started good superheroes movies was Tim Burton's Batman

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

Good point...especially since financial problems is such a big part of Peter Parker's story, including the MCU version...even highlighted in like, the third line Peter has in the MCU (I'm referring to his first scene ever, in Civil War - which I just happened to rewatch last night lol - when Peter immediately asks if the "grant" Tony Stark is lying about involves getting money. Then, when the convo moves to his tiny bedroom, they immediately establish he salvages all his tech from the dumpsters, etc.). And honestly? They did a really good job making his original costume that Peter created by himself look like something that could be made by hand, at home. As someone with experience poorly sewing clothing & costumes at home, without a sewing machine or patterns, just focused on basic function over actually looking nice...I'm pretty sure I could recreate Peter's OG costume on my own. I could even do it by using scraps and stuff I find, if I'm allowed to focus on recreating its function over a specific appearance, like how Peter would have made it. But, I prefer his fancy suit, mainly because of the eye movement, and I'm so glad they have a great reason for how he has it. I don't see how they could justify Peter being able to make a suit any more advanced than the OG cobbled together one. Especially considering that during Civil War & Homecoming, Peter Parker had yet to start working as far as I remember...So he literally has no money of his own. If he managed to find even something as basic & necessary like a good working sewing machine while dumpster diving, it wasn't shown or established. And when it comes to the costumes in all prior Spiderman movies, it's obvious a high quality sewing machine was used, using high quality materials, following a specific pattern. (My mom is actually good at sewing, has a machine & the money for materials & patterns, and I've watched her create all kinds of costumes using these resources, including the shopping part & pattern part. She could definitely create the basic Spider Man costumes used in the prior movies, but I definitely couldn't without accessing her resources...And I have far more experience & time than Peter Parker does.) And if Aunt May has a sewing machine during this time, they also didn't establish that...not to mention that it takes experience & skill to use a sewing machine well, and it takes even more experience & skill to use it secretly, without leaving behind at least some evidence that it's been used for a different project. _(ie. If I tried to sneakily use my mom's sewing machine when she wasn't home, it would be hard to leave no trace of it. Especially if she was in the middle of a different project.)_ Sorry for the unnecessary ramble 😅✌

[@gracewhite2723]

Thank you so much for this, I loved it.

[@VenusandMaiku]

This was a pretty amazing summary of Homecoming. Keep up the great work. I'll subscribe to see your future stuff! =)

[@trevonevans9790]

Dude, I had to subscribe after this awesome video. Mad props, bro! Bonus points for sounding almost exactly like Tobey Maguire! I almost expected you to end it with "Who am I? I'm Spider-Man!"

[@bridgecross]

Another great move; casting a DANCER.

[@OnepieceofRivia]

Really good analysis

[@abbyinwonderland6562]

Love this video! Your points are great and I agree with pretty much all of them! I don't know, when people complain about it being "Iron Man Lite", I always just kind of think... well, yeah! He's *fifteen*. That's a freshman in high school, for god's sake. He's not exactly ready to jump directly into battle like the adults are. Just because he gained powers doesn't mean he's automatically going to be the ultimate superhero. He kind of needs some assistance from someone older and who's had more experience. Honestly, Tony Stark would not have been my first choice for that job but he's such a father figure for Peter that it works so well. So yeah, of course Spider-Man would have an AI, and all those fancy add ons in the suit- Tony knows what works for him, and what will work for Peter once he teaches him how to use it. The training wheels protocol? Understandable- Tony wants to let Peter master what he already knows before diving into all of the new features. Of course Peter kind of screws that up, so Tony forces him to go back to basics to understand that he never needed all of the fancy gadgets and suit features- sticking with what he knows is good enough. Sorry for the ramble haha, just my two cents.

[@bradens.3125]

Still waiting for those web shooters I asked for Christmas...

[@AbbyElric]

Braden Sheffield bro saaame

[@yezen6889]

To be fair, Raimi’s Peter talks to himself VERY often, particularly in Spider-Man 2