AGATHA ALL ALONG 1x8-1x9 FINALE REACTION!! | Disney Plus - WandaVision Spin-Off

[@JustGavinBennett]

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[@tuxedomask4masc]

Agatha was right all along.. the lyrics was Coven TWO not True 😭😭😭😭😭

[@jmarais]

Like.. she made the song, she can change the lyrics anytime she wants to lmaoo

[@diogosimao]

Which makes perfect sense since the song is Nickys and hers, two.

[@MattPerk7]

It seems to be implied that the Doctor who Jen blamed for binding her actually hired Agatha to bind her

[@iragebro0-094]

My theory is originally she’d kill the witches to distract death from taking Nick and the day she didn’t was the day he was taken. She was used to killing witches by then and just continued on

[@EM-fl5od]

32:57 Death didn’t collect Agatha’s spirit which is the promise she made, Agatha didn’t want to see Death. We saw Death walk Nicky and Alice into the afterlife, which is presumably what she did for Sharon and Lilia which is why Agatha said none of them are ghosts.

[@snoopypal]

Good point. Agatha being a ghost means she has unresolved issues, meaning her ability to face her son, Nicholas. Alice resolved her issue with her demons, as did Lilja with her issue with time-slipping... Sharon probably already finished her gardening 😅.

[@teslafreeman]

​@@snoopypalsuper dark theory, but: Sharon wanted to be with her husband again. She said in her garden that she hadn't been doing anything since Mr Davis died, my theory is that she was living like a songbird whose mate dies. She was just passing the days until Rio would take her to him, and the Wiccan Road led her straight into her husbands arms. She died surrounded by would-be friends/sisters, in a house she loved, drinking wine with the girls. Traumatic hallucinations aside (which she was unconscious after only a few seconds of) she died how she wanted to live. She got to die surrounded by people most of which loved her as best as calloused centuries old witches hardened by suffering, could.

[@kewlztertc5386]

Agatha says they killed whitches to survive. But it wasn't her survival. I think At first she was killing witches to satisfy Death, and keep her from taking Nicholas. When Nick refused he died that same day.

[@EM-fl5od]

0:46 I think people got caught up in the timey-wimey stuff that they forgot Lilia is a divination witch… if she were a divination witch she wouldn’t need to be there and see things happen or else.. she wouldn’t be diving anything. She’d just literally be seeing things happen.

[@mo6live]

This show proved to me how a lot of things be going over they’re heads

[@Kaeridan]

As far as I'm concerned, Kevin Feige should call Jac Schaffer today and be like "Here's Midnight Suns and Strange Academy, go wild with it." Agatha was also a ghost (and a guide) in other iterations of her character, including Scarlet Witch's own Witches' Road storyline and also the twins's og origin story with Mephisto and whatnot, both as Wanda's guide and mentor of sorts (kinda like she's doing with Wiccan here). On top of the (very good) Midnight Suns game you mentioned.

[@2ndChild28]

Yes... Let That guy handle the mystical area of Marvel.. He did fantastic job at it..

[@EM-fl5od]

34:21 So many people are mad with this ending but to me it’s perfect in the sense that it’s everything it needed to be. Agatha has now fully taken on the role of a ghost mentor. Originally in the 2015 Scarlet Witch comic, the Witches’ Road storyline follows Wanda as she’s guided by Agatha’s ghost. Children’s Crusade also is caused by Tommy and Billy’s reunion and decision to seek out Wanda (especially since Tommy is the known mama’s boy, Billy doesn’t consider Wanda his mom, but Tommy in the comics also does not have a family that cares for him which is why Wanda is so important to him). I’ve seen some people say Wanda should’ve never gotten killed off but that’s also part of the Children’s Crusade, Strange is also the one who reports her supposed suicide both in comics and MCU, so it’s all adding up. Next we’ll have White Vision building his family. Then Avengers Doomsday will most likely be the culmination of everything considering Doom is who is holding Wanda captive in Children’s Crusade after her mind is wiped and she’s coerced into being his wife while he tries to steal her powers. Wonderman is also set to release next year which is meant to be Wanda’s next love interest (his character was pretty much created just to be an Avenger leader and Scarlet Witch love interest so I’d be surprised if they didn’t fulfill those 2 purposes).

[@jasonmarbach]

This finale absolutely broke me. I need a season 2 confirmation, like, now

[@Agoraphoboy]

I doubt it'll be Agatha all along s2, it'll probably be called Wiccan or Children's Crusade

[@jasonmarbach]

That would be better than nothing, but continuing this story and following Billy and Agatha searching for Tommy would be suuuuuper dope, to me

[@randompeople465]

Vision quest is the next one, willian, Billy and Vision will Reunions.

[@lovemoviesful2]

There no season 2, what I know or think it goes like wandavision, then agatha all along, then vision quest, and Tommy will probably appear in vision quest, Billy and agatha might probably appear in vision quest too, but we don't know.

[@jasonmarbach]

@@lovemoviesful2 technically, the show was submitted to awards categories as a “Comedy Series,” not a limited series. That doesn’t mean a definite season 2, obviously…lol. Just saying, it’s not for sure yet. Even if it’s not a direct season 2, this story needs to continue directly. Visionquest, whatever it ends up being, is almost certainly not going to be a direct continuation of this, I don’t think. But if it is, I mean, okay. I just need this story (Wiccan and Agatha, specifically) to continue as they search for Tommy. It’s so good.

[@kewlztertc5386]

VisionQuest is the final installment. I'm guessing Billy finds Tommy, and they go on a quest for Vision.

[@entrydenied]

I'm a bit apprehensive as the showrunner will be someone else😢

[@kewlztertc5386]

@entrydenied don't be. The guy who took over Star Trek Picard for season 3, is doing it. Anyone who could not only salvage that show, but turn it into something fantastic. Is a person who understands entertainment. It won't be as complex like WV/AA, but it'll be fun.

[@stephendaniels2213]

@@entrydenied also, Jac Schaeffer stayed on for months during the transition from her to Terry Matalas. Plus she's still a "consultant" on his team so at least it won't retcon WV or AAA to death.

[@ImpossibleCaseEdits]

That was excellent! This series has been above and beyond anything I could have imagined. It's become one of my all-time favorite shows, and although I'm sad to see it end, there's a lot of promise for the future.

[@digifreak90]

4:10 The difference is that, unlike Coulson or Vision, Billy took over another body, so a soul that was supposed to die is inhabiting another person's body that was supposed to die.

[@ushijimawakatoshi1429]

The Legend of the Witches Road became true when Billy willed it. Agatha made the Myth, Billy conjured it. That's the future Demiurge at work. Ruling over Magic at will so far as to create a Wish-Granting Dimension.

[@digifreak90]

9:30 No, she didn't pretend to be him, it is implied that he paid her to cast the binding spell, she didn't know that Jen was the witch who would he was trying to bind.

[@EM-fl5od]

41:35 I hope they give it that galaxy effect from the comics with his next look.

[@EM-fl5od]

The finale is like the perfect villain to antihero origin story, the whole first half of the episode also functions as a try not to cry challenge 💀😭

[@Transfromjapan]

Down down down the road down the Billy road 😂

[@americanasian3156]

It’s nice to know that someone else who played Midnight Sons was happy with ghost Agatha 😂

[@EricOfTheClanRed]

She is a ghost because of her agreement with Rio. He did offer himself so Rio could not come for her at her death.

[@decusq]

Rio might be death but she said it herself, she hates Ghosts and Ghosts can keep themselves bound to the living world with a strong emotional attachment, Agatha's however is she can't face her child in the afterlife because shes ashamed of who she is. Rio can only control the act of Death itself and guide those who accept her to the afterlife or the beyond. Agatha however is choosing not to accept death thereby remaining as a ghost. My theory is shes hoping Billy will grant her a NEW BODY, potential recasting down the road per se. So shes trying to keep on his good side till either he can help her get a new vessel OR she figures out how to do it herself.

[@Jumbaride]

The visual of Lilia driving that big ole truck... 😂😂😂

[@LeeKeels]

What truck?

[@Jumbaride]

@LeeKeels The guy doing the reaction said he had speculated Lilia was driving the truck that ran William and his parents off the road.

[@JustGavinBennett]

AS A JOKE. lmao not for real but yeah that'd be hilarious

[@Jumbaride]

@@JustGavinBennett I knew you were joking... the visual is hilarious though. 😂

[@EM-fl5od]

Never would’ve thought that it was Agatha All Along.

[@richardd.3745]

As for the question as to how Agatha got the darkhold I don’t think it really matters. The book of the damned is gonna find its way to someone who’s done such magical evil.

[@fazelok]

kinda sad though, the first time she confronts her kids' death, and the first time she STOPS draining someone fully to death, is also the same day she ends up dead. lol

[@chadwickmyers7226]

I believe she starting killing covens of witches either to suffice as bodies sacrificed so that Rio will allow nick to live a bit longer, kind of that as long as bodies continue to pile up, Rio will let nicky have more time, or alternativly to keep Rio so busy tending to other bodies that she couldn't come get Nick, hence the one day that they didn't pull their con... is the night Rio comes for him

[@Vivan_aru]

Wiccan created witches road he created something that never exist damn reality warping

[@deathlycynicaltv9729]

I saw a great theory on Reddit that she continued killing witches with Nicky because it was essentially payment to Rio (hence why she says survival) for the time she gave Nicky, but the one night he chooses not to lure them and they don't kill is when Rio comes to collect him. It was a really interesting read. If that is true, then I would assume that Agatha in her misery continued killing because it became a reflex to her, but also as a means of keeping Rio occupied since she claims Rio was always following her. My theory about her acquiring the Darkhold is perhaps she traveled to Wundagore after learning of the existence of the spells in attempts to get Nicky back, and she created the copy of the Darkhold in that universe (since Wundagore is considered to be the 'original' Darkhold with the spells carved into the walls). I could be wrong, but clearly she didn't trade Nicky for it, and it was just gossip in the witch community. Hopefully if we see her travels with Billy, she will open up more about some of the things that were left out. Either that or maybe she did make a deal for it, just she did something else to acquire it. Ultimately it wasn't the ending I was expecting but I wasn't disappointed. Ghost Agatha is a definite vibe lol I'm excited to see her and Billy's journey to find Tommy.

[@adderstar2236]

Not a bad theory about Agatha and the Darkhold. It could be a great way to tie it back to WandaVision as well. She learns of what the Scarlet Witch is said to be capable of, so she forges a copy of the Darkhold to take with her and discover if Wanda is capable of creation and resurrection. Her goal with Wanda's magic was most likely a belief that she could use it to revive Nicholas.

[@ushijimawakatoshi1429]

I guess Jen is Wandavision's Monica. Both got their power and survived. So this is probably unpopular opinion but I'm excited if Jennifer Kale will have a huge role in the future in Billy's character story.

[@bhavananadig7842]

There was that dialogue of emotion or unresolved issues tying ghosts to our plane, so i guess she came back as a ghost coz she had strong emotions tied to Billy OR strong emotions to not face her kid or a combo of both.

[@theuniqueone5453]

I’m gonna watch the episodes and come back✌🏾

[@rust5427]

Scarlet witch vs Green witch... One variant of her was like so close towards creating a new multiverse 😂😂😂 I'm sure wanda could win

[@JordiVanderwaal]

- "Agatha, am I killing this boy so my brother can live?" Hardest line we've had in the MCU yet, so tough to hear. Followed by Agatha's "no Billy, sometimes boys... die" is just, heartbreaking. And yes, Tommy will have such a hard life, that I can already know I'm gonna feel crushed during Vision Quest.

[@MattheusSantos-sf3zb]

10/10 Agatha had her coherent ending 💜🔥

[@fazelok]

crazy, that he made the road, that shouldnt have even existed in the first place. really all that was gained from the entire show - Jen, like white vision, is out in the world, to follow up with - Wiccan, and his brother may join the new avengers, Agatha might still play some role with Wiccan, and Death is a character as well.

[@AN-bw6is]

"hes never flown other than a broom" as he just flew in 15 mins prior 😭

[@JustGavinBennett]

Nah that was falling with style for sure lmao. But yeah I forgot

[@demas5334]

Rainbolt as part of the MCU makes sense.

[@JayStorm199]

Agatha has unfinished business that's why she's a ghost.

[@justsomeone3424]

it really was agatha all along

[@EM-fl5od]

40:31 I could see an animated Salem witch series as long as it’s not in the What if..? animation style

[@amyriim]

I think it’s the theme for death and taskmaster sound similar if that’s what you were thinking but that’s only off the top of my head, if i remember correctly

[@stephendaniels2213]

I suspect the Marvel head honchos are in panic after all the "flops" of recent times and suddenly their least expensive, least hyped-up show is not only a critical success but beloved by fans demanding a sequel. They're probably frantically trying to find room for cameos in partially filmed movies and shows, and scrambling to see what series or movie might have room for a "Wiccan and his crazy Ghost Aunt" sub-plot.

[@d3stroyx69]

What I don't understand is, if she was planning to really kill them in the basement, why would she tell Lilia that the only way she can get their powers is if they blast her?

[@berenicemendivil7217]

As I see it, she wasn't expecting her to remember. Agatha's con relied on pushing the other witches bottons until they attacked without thinking.

[@Jim_The_Fish]

Also, Jen didn’t have her powers, and Sharon wasn’t a witch. So the only ones blasting Agatha would be Lilia and Alice.

[@digifreak90]

@@Jim_The_Fish Remember that Agatha was upset when she saw Jen's name on the list, possibly because, in addition to whatever interactions they had in the past, she knew Jen would be unable to attack her. As for Sharon, she just grabbed her because otherwise the others wouldn't attempt to open the Road due to having an incomplete coven.

[@fazelok]

but really, we found out Wiccan, is more powerful than Wanda. because there wasnt even a hex, they had to go thru, for reality to change - he just... made a new reality

[@digifreak90]

Maybe, but the Road was magic on a far smaller scale than the Hex. Wanda's Hex encompassed and affected the entire town of Westview, literal miles of space. Billy simply created a Road that probably didn't actually span that much distance. Also, Wanda overwrote everyone's identity to match the sitcom reality she created, Billy never affected anyone's minds (not including when he control Lila and Jen to throw Agatha off the Road), though he seemingly read their subconscious to make the trials fit each coven member, allowing Alice and Lilia to find what they were looking for during their trials.

[@fazelok]

​@@digifreak90 well I say it, because - Wanda needed an emotional breaking point, to create hers - he... wasnt even aware of his power, from the start - he also didnt even read their minds, consciously either - Wanda at many moments, unaware to the viewer - did for example, see the beekeeper guy, from the sewer, say no - and rewind everything to fit it in and ignore it - Billy truly, was apart of the team, not even knowing he did it. He also yes, didnt need to 'alter' reality - it was... a new dimension entirely, that he created - we see this, on how they flew, on brooms, and saw the moon - up above - it was literally - an entire world, that he pretty much made - sure, they didnt explore it all, but its still to be noted.

[@joshuaburgess4895]

I don't give af bout structure these last 3 episodes cause granted episode 7 gave me pulpfiction vibes at least the strucker of it ( witch is nice to have) obviously not in the r rating or ra× scenes in that movie but the way the story is told I'll give you that but I don't think they blew the last 2 episodes at all in any way shape or form. I wanna actually see the next season soo I feel like it did it's job

[@joshuaburgess4895]

And they did it in a way were im sure eventually it'll tie in to the bigger story of the mcu but it's not like needed to continue there story as of right now flushing the plot out I guess? That's what wandavision I think was missing like we're getting a movie from this sure but the people who made the show had a direction for the show and are not involved at all that's why her as a villian in doctor strange just didn't work. Let these characters flesh out more don't use 10 9 whatever episodes of a show to make a whole movie after let this shit grow to the point we anticipate a movie in a good way not like oh they made a show you know a movies coming. I have high hopes for the show I'm hoping they learned there lesson.

[@MattPerk7]

15:33 nice observation

[@Vivan_aru]

1:05 godd you are beautiful 😳

[@Rediphone21]

🔥🔥🔥

[@mo6live]

Please keep up Jen never lost her powers to that guy like she thought Agatha placed it

[@JustGavinBennett]

Never said she did??? What you mean please keep up lmao. I talk about this at the end like what

[@krisk3363]

Even death can't claim or win a direct combat with him, apparently. He's overpowered already. He's even able to resurrect the dead lol

[@Mcherri]

I mean he would’ve stood a better chance had he had knowledge as Agatha said to Wanda “ power isn’t your problem, knowledge is” this applies to billy as well had he had more time and knowledge as well as experience he probably could go toe to toe with death maybe not winning but giving her a hell of a fight.

[@TWD77710]

​@@Mcherrinah yall trippin death a cosmic abstract on par with Eon, Eternity, Infinity, Uatu, Living Tribunal, and One Above All (Celestial). All 7 appeared in the Gates of Eternity as the highest power in the Omniverse (above everything and everyone).

[@fazelok]

I feel like it wouldve been cooler - to have Agatha survive, in the role of death - have her take the power of the current one lol. just saying