The Battle of Ganin: Galavrck-Terran War & The Observer | Best of r/HFY | 2019 | Human are Space Orc

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00:00 Intro
00:06 The Battle of Ganin: Galavrck-Terran War
08:23 The Observer
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This Story is Classified as HFY or Humanity Feck, Yea , but what does the Mean?
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HFY is a story/series that takes a “human element” in either humanity or an “other” (race/species or object) that exists in a “setting” (future or other world/universe) with varying levels of culture, technology, society and history that help show in some shape or form the potential good or bad for humanity’s race/culture. In These stories Humans are often referred to as Human, Humanity, Deathworlder, Hellwolder in reference to the human planet of origin , Earth. This planet is seen by most of the universe as a place where only death and chaos can survive.
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Taken from the FAQ of the r/HFY subreddit.
Humans Are Space Orcs (HASO) or Humans Are (Fantasy Race) Are used as a guide when writing.
In these Stories we normally View humans like the other races view orcs in a Fantasy Novel. We (Humans) share the same characteristics and personalities as orcs. Humans are normally treated as the outsiders and barbarians. Humans tend to be underestimated as well in these stories. Unlike Humanity Feck Yea , these don't always put a positive spin on humans\humanity sometimes looking at the darker side of human and humanity from the perspective of aliens.
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[@mnspstudioful]

When aliens forget space has a third dimension.

[@KuDastardly]

Reminds me of a scene in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan during the battle in the Mutara Nebula.

[@Maddog3060]

Story 1: Humans: "Huh, we didn't even have to break out the big nukes." Xeno: "You make bigger ones?!" Humans: "Well, yeah. Those were only small tactical warheads. We got larger tacticals, even larger strategic warheads, and don't get me started on what the Russians are doing." Xeno: [internally screaming] Story 2: Interesting.

[@Nyrufa]

Humans: "If you think those were impressive, wait until you see our rail guns!"

[@ravenouself4181]

Humans: And since we are in Space, the Russians won't have to decrease the yield this time around.

[@erankaguri8621]

Xeno: How big is the "Russian" nuke? Human: Yes.

[@MTF.TAU5..Bob.]

​@@erankaguri8621xenos: yes? What's yes? Human *points at the sun*: that is yes you see that was just created last night 😊

[@verilyheld]

" . . . and don't get me started on what the Russians are doing." These days, not much.

[@markmulder9845]

Broadsides are for ships with guns on them. Unfortunately, we like guns with ships on them.

[@Agent4077]

Brrt!

[@dragunkod]

more like really big guns in the shape of ships.

[@lupaswolfshead9971]

[@Gilhelmi]

Oh good, part 2 is up. They should have signed the holy Geneva convention.

[@SoloWing88]

or they will learn what the Geneva suggestions are

[@RJStockton]

Just last night I listened to "Why the Galavrck Are No More." So I guess Spoilers and such.

[@SoloWing88]

This is the sequel. But yeah, The Galavrck arent doing well.

[@RJStockton]

@@SoloWing88 Serves them right, mouthing off to our ambassador like that.

[@WhyIsThisNecessary]

So glad part 2 came out so quickly because I wanted a conclusion to the previous one

[@TheAzynder]

I think there was a 3rd part to this, but if memory severs it has only been like 2 days on even /r

[@jeremybiwer8756]

There is more and it gets better.

[@alganhar1]

@@jeremybiwer8756 No, it just gets more painful. Its patently obvious the author is either not a native English speaker, or has an exceedingly poor grasp of the language if they are. Reading their writing is literally painful. Its like they just used google translate then a spell checker. I really do not care how good a story is (and that is arguable as it is a subjective matter, not objective), but if its so poorly written as to include so many spelling errors its not worth my time to read. The first one called us TARRENS ffs, not Terran's, and it was not a one off either, it was EVERY time (clear sign of a spell checker addition that was incorrect I might add), Sole instead of soul, I could go on but will not bother. That was either unfamiliarity with the language (in which case why write in English?), incompetence, or laziness. Part of my job involves writing Articles for peer reviewed scientific journals. If this author is a native English speaker it is absolutely obvious he or she never even BOTHERED proof reading their own work. There is absolutely no way I would be so lax with my own writing, not if I am publishing it, even if it is on something like Reddit......

[@ArchonSG1]

Nice follow up to the previous story. Formations Circling around each other in combat. Aliens are still thinking in 2D vs the 3D of space combat. If you think about it, one logical way to do combat is to "Joust" using speed and direction to bring your formation to pass in and out of range, and while passing the enemy, bringing weapons of the entire formation to bear while only exposing a few ships at a time. "Cutting off the Envelope's corner" so to speak. This spreads damage taken to multiple ships while bringing the entire formation to bear on one poor sorry area of the enemy's formation. Assuming both sides have the same range, this would be a dance of formations and the commander who can out maneuver his opponent wins. However, given the range advantage and how their opponents are "stationary relative" and presenting broadsides ... 😈 On a side note, given the last weapon lauched to "clean up" were nukes, this means that there will be no survivors, as even those who try to abandon ship will be cleansed by Atomic fire. No wonder the Zandir shat their pants in the previous story.

[@michealnelsonauthor]

That’s why they spared one ship. To carry the story & video evidence home…

[@briankerr6333]

Pity the Galavrck , they Should have spoke to the Zandir ambassador before running their mandibles in the galactic forum , should have signed the docs 😂😂👍👍👍👍

[@ettibbet5493]

Fuck around and find out in effect

[@jonnypena7651]

I wasn't sure if this was the continuation but it is.

[@ulysees321]

@@jonnypena7651 just a shame there isnt more, could listen about that universe all day

[@michealnelsonauthor]

The who? Oh yeah, the relics on the works of ash use that name.

[@armycowboy4313]

First officer: (turns to the alien ambassador) you call that a war man didn't even break a sweat. Someone go tell the Marines that battle is over. Make sure to bring extra Crayons those Marines are going to be pissed that they didn't get a chance to fight. Alien AB what do you mean they will be pissed the battles over. FO: oh our Marines absolutely love war and they where hoping for challenging but from what we've seen you're troops would be more like pop up targets. No real challenge. Shoot you dont even have proper Armor vehicles to support your troops. Ab:.....

[@garysprandel1817]

Well the xenos did ask for total war in the previous story and the Terrans were more than happy to provide a demonstration. Sounds like they didn't get the chance to see some of the more quaint planetside fun time stuff like Willie Pete or napalm.

[@julesmasseffectmusic]

Story 1. Don't send a draughts player to 3d chess match.

[@SergeyWaytov]

Well well well, thats some culture shock to poor alien leadership, the broadside-firing "line ships" versus "traditional sci-fi human space navy" is a very definition of curbstomping

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

Hell, even if we had broadsiders as well, we know full well how to cut the line, Nelson taught us that trick.

[@SergeyWaytov]

@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 Something like "tanky" Dreadnoughts from the game Dreadnought come to mind -- PDC, turret mounted main-guns, missile silos, and Plasma Broadsides as an armament variant, but indeed, tight formations are sure way to doom yourself, for example the same "tank" ship from this game can be equipped with a tactical nuke, and its relatively moderate in damage only due to game balance reasons, so either that, or just a loose formation of plasma broadsides will earn much more hits percentage than enemy gets back at the attacking craft

[@reddeathstar2428]

Traditional sci-fi ships of humanity these sound like they are similar to halo ships which weapon wise are pretty realistic

[@SergeyWaytov]

@@reddeathstar2428 yeah, mainly the point of having MAC cannons instead of any other variations of acceleration based artillery

[@shadeakiragamedom9597]

i am glad you enjoyed that, i did say in the first chapter that they ways of combat are... old school.

[@Elyseon]

Those aliens are so smug and condescending. At least until they get put in their place.

[@calvingreene90]

That's what you get bringing guns to a missile fight.

[@anathardayaldar]

OMG they're using Napoleonic tactics. I thought they were going to recreate Trafalgar.

[@kyleheins]

Their tactics were long outdated by Trafalgar, those tactics were from the age of galleons, the Spanish treasure fleets, and the early colonization of the Americas.

[@apocraphontripp4728]

You know this channel has literally become my bed time story, before going to bed. Definitely some genetic memory thing happening, in hearing a spoken story.

[@chrisdufresne9359]

Ah, we went the path of Babylon 5 while the xenos went the path of treasure planet. That being said, you just know a weeb somewhere on Earth wanted to create a real world Space Battleship Yamato after finding out what normal combat looked like.

[@limos2137]

Dont call us out like that man

[@chrisdufresne9359]

@Limo s I would wholeheartedly embrace those ship designs, but only for those stellar nations that chose that style of combat. On the other hand, I'm just imagining an entire fleet of destroyers similar in design to some of the ships used by humanity in Babylon5.

[@fernandomarques5166]

Trust me we can put a MAC in place of the wave motion gun. It'll just take a bit of thinkering around.

[@keithmays8076]

The Yamato, the Missouri, and the Bismarck for the space battleships. And the Enterprise, the Yorktown, and the Hornet for space carriers and I'm a happy camper. Add in the Captain Harlock's Arcadia, for shits and giggles, and you'll have a million volunteers ready and willing to sign up this expeditionary fleet.

[@ravenouself4181]

If wanting to build badass ships that can turn entire fleets into mincemeat makes me a Weeb - then I am a Weeb. Edit: And, for the record, wanting to build a real Space Battleship Yamato is no different than wanting to build ships from Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, the Expanse, Star Wars, Halo or Star Trek.

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

sounded like a nice ''use new tech to make the concepts for how to make your familiar weaponry more deadly and functional for void combat'' ...only shame is the foe was so incredible outmatched that we not got to see if the counter measures also been advanced ,but considering the resources poured into flares etc , and even the 'scifi' concept of point defence on real life ships i wager the terran navy in this would have a quite impressive close range pd cover and extended ecm and early intercept drone web around itself.

[@richardgutermuth2043]

The Warp Marine Corp series is a good example of what we might do

[@nathlech919]

I listened to this before listening to part 1. Now it all makes sense

[@peterwalls-qf7ii]

Void combat is 4dimentional. Time is a factor, due to the distances. Ships in space do no stop. EVER! Any "stop" they achieve , is relative to another object. A ship may match velocity pitch and yaw with an object in space, thus managing to appear stationary, in reference to that object. Motion does not can not stop. To come to an absolute stop , is to be left out of the universe. The nothing that surrounds our little bubble, is not survivable mentally or physically. Gravity is an effect, not a force.

[@michealnelsonauthor]

Perhaps the “relative” means the human fleet waits in a stellar or planetary orbit, perhaps an L point, and the alien fleet “asks for combat” by entering an orbital point ahead of behind the human fleet, “station keeping” in orbit, relatively stopped with respect to the human fleet.

[@lupaswolfshead9971]

wrong

[@wombat9793]

hells yeah, 30 minutes before it starts I am ready

[@johncochran8497]

Reasonable story, but still had a major problem. The issue isn't that the aliens had horrible tactics. The issue is that the human's weapons were far superior to the aliens. Namely, the humans could have duplicated the alien's tactics exactly, and the result would have been the same since the humans outranged the aliens by a factor of four. With that kind of superiority, it wouldn't have mattered at all about the tactics used by either side.

[@Wwillswords]

They used laser weapons which dissipate over distance in space due to microscopic dust vs the terrans used solid munitions and the macs can only work in a forward aimed spinal mount as they wouldn't get enough force otherwise. So no they didn't out tech but rather applied a different doctrine of using disposable weaponry vs energy weaponry.

[@johncochran8497]

@@Wwillswords Nothing you said invalidates that the humans used weapons with a range approximately 4 times that of the aliens. An obvious consequence of that is that the actual tactics used in the battle NO LONGER MATTER. So even though the aliens used an obsolete line of battle, that had no effect on the battle's outcome.

[@Wwillswords]

@@johncochran8497 you said that the weapons are far superior I was stating that we simply don't know. As we never see the aliens fire. Their shots may have been way more powerful or faster firing but shorter ranged. A sniper rifle is awesome until someone gets in close and a shotgun is deadly in close range. However a shotgun suffers at longer ranges. Would you argue the shotgun is a worse weapon then a sniper based purely off of range? But if you take those same two weapons and put them in a field facing each other the shotgun may outperform the sniper due to its scatter shot approach until someone spreads out the line so as to avoid groups to aim for and widens the range. Then suddenly the sniper seems really op. They may have very well had mac weaponry, but not implemented it due to concerns; which we don't see. For example some concerns might be ammunition costs/storage or the opponets they normally fight have defences for solid impacts but energy weapons are harder to defend against so they saved money by only building energy weapons and defences for energy weapons; with a hull designed to defend against micro meteors and nothing larger, that is solid, but is terrifyingly good vs energy weaponry. So it's like we took line tactics which they used and introduced a new way of combating line tactics by simply not lining up which is something apparently not done before in story. So it is a doctrine issue of how you choose to fight wars and what is the priority to equip your military with; not necessarily a yeah we out tech the poor xenos and kneel before our almighty unbeatable weaponry.

[@Wwillswords]

And no the terrans couldn't have fought the same due to it being a spinal weapon set up vs broadside set up ie there main gun wouldn't be able to fire at the enemy while circling.

[@johncochran8497]

@@Wwillswords Did you bother to listen to the entire video? I'm asking because you either didn't, or you didn't actually understand what was said. Please pay close attention to 4:25 through 4:37. Just in case, you don't want to spend the time, quoting: High Emperor if you read this do understand that I had not fed you any false information, the Terrans maximum range is 8.6 giga units, nearly four times our laser cannon range, .... So once again, with that range advantage, the actual tactics used DO NOT MATTER.

[@Gilhelmi]

For the Algorithm. For the Squirrel!

[@Dostoron]

reminds me of that anime where the JSDF conquers a medieval fantasy world...

[@jorgecarreras4214]

Gate: And thus the JSDF fought there.

[@thachphongvn9770]

Don't forget nihonkoku shokukan

[@christopherbravo1813]

not even remotely similar.

[@victortahlor4038]

Thank you for the reading

[@RealArcalian]

Greetings Mentlegent! For the Rhyhtm that is Algo Story 1: Ahhh, now *there's* the meat of the sandwich! Some of it anyway. Story 2: Observation indeed. And positive HFY observation too. Not much story though. More a statement of the human condition.

[@robertschumacher2707]

Like I said in the first story, curb stomp.

[@genericuser984]

cool, a sequel

[@markfergerson2145]

Indeed, I wasn't expecting one. It went pretty much the way I expected but was definitely worth while.

[@JoaoSoares-rs6ec]

The last time tactics like those were used was during the napoleonic wars, that's two hundred years ago,

[@hamsta11]

if you are fighting fair then you aren't fighting hard enough

[@allenmorgan1007]

For the Algorithm, for the Author(s), for the Disembodied Voice!

[@rossdavies8250]

Good stories.

[@0x5c]

Glad to see there are no dislikes so far (at least according to my extension).

[@WallNutBreaker524]

Nice.

[@SergeyWaytov]

Yeeehaaa!

[@grahammctygue724]

I,am often reminded of miner,s use ing their slag /dross shooters ohh well be safe

[@elfeater1760]

For the Algorithm11!

[@emilynelson5646]

Why isn't the text on all of the screen? 3/4 of the screen seems to be a picture.

[@ettibbet5493]

Why are you an idiot?

[@emilynelson5646]

@@ettibbet5493 wtf are you talking about? I asked a simple polite question. There's no reason to be rude.

[@Gilhelmi]

This is how it always is. The Fishies are a critical part of the reading. Do not anger the Fishies, or the Nanite-Swarm will eat your socks! FOR THE ALGORITHM AND THE DISEMBODIED VOICE!

[@erubianwarlord8208]

@@emilynelson5646 its something to to with youtube policies and i think copyright basically the 'Main' section of the video being the fish is giving Argo some needed wriggle room for something he got into strife over i dont know the details beyond that though

[@merlinwizard1000]

14th, 12 February 2023

[@christidwell9530]

What is name of part 1

[@AgroSquerril]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZSyiGCkob2ljJY

[@Josh-iv2bw]

@@AgroSquerril is there more coming? Of this series that is.

[@ettibbet5493]

@@Josh-iv2bw looking at the authors profile I believe this is the only 2

[@Josh-iv2bw]

@@ettibbet5493 aw

[@shadeakiragamedom9597]

@@Josh-iv2bw i have made a capstone end to the galavrck arch. if agro gets enough like ill make one about the next war humanity gets pulled into

[@alganhar1]

Ugh, the author is obviously not a native English speaker, the writing was terrible. Also Sci Fi Authors need to get into their brains that nuclear explosions DO NOT PROPAGATE IN VACUUM. The most devastating aspects of a nuke are the pressure wave (which is the destructive bit and does not propagate in a vacuum because it literally REQUIRES air pressure which literally DOES NOT EXIST IN SPACE). Second is the Radiation, to be fair that WOULD be an issue, but spaceships are literally radiation shielded against all the radiation coming from the damned star, which is actually WORSE. Absolutely terrible. Sorry, but terrible. The narration was as good as could be expected, but for a change I actually read the text. I can do better than that on a blind drunk and with a broken arm. Probably why I never actually read the story on Reddit.... I avoid text based stories with so many.... mistakes..... A sole is the bottom of a shoe, or a kind of bottom feeding fish, it is not a SOUL... And that is just one of MANY examples.... I can forgive one or two errors... but so many? Nope.....

[@carlosdgutierrez6570]

True, Nules don't propagate in space if they explode isolated, the thing is that if they explode right next to your ship or worse, inside of your ship, all that energy released within the ship will vaporize the ship itself like a high energy laser would vaporize a cube of ice.