Ahsoka Episode 6 - VISUALLY STUNNING! - Angry Review

[@jamesknight3070]

Lars Mikkelsen returning as Thrawn was the best part of this episode, for me, as his voice and mannerisms were perfect.

[@Peterski]

he needs to go to the gym though... overweight Thrawn...? ;-)

[@RebornVengeancex]

🍺

[@mattcgw]

​@@Peterskia voice for radio.

[@Alexander-lc7dx]

What about his gut?

[@Graavigala85]

​@@Peterskihe just got old and aged like wine 😄😊

[@travis9491]

So is it me? Or is Shin like... The best padawan?! She isn't brash and forward like Obiwan... Or Arrogant and dismissive like Anakin, she listens to her master. And Baylan, He is the master "Jedi" that fans wanted... Strong, passionate, and stoic. He is reserved, and when he speaks you listen, and what he has to say matters.

[@alexlyster3459]

Yeah, honest Shin and Baylans dynamic is my favourite part of the show, and I really like all of it!

[@Batlafication]

Agreed!

[@ImGeoX]

Probably because she's older than your typical padawan.

[@WeMissDimebag]

Well maybe cause she hasn’t been trained as rigidly as others. She never got training from the Order and Baylan isn’t a Sith, so she’s not getting the super oppressive and abusive treatment either. She also does clearly have an arrogance issue, she really *really* wanted to gloat to Sabine before killing her and was clearly furious when Sabine got the better of her.

[@Commander_Shepard.]

Yeah, I honestly thought she was going to be another Reva. Glad she isn't.

[@Nickviewer]

I don’t want to get overhyped like a Star Wars fan, but thrawn asking about Ashoka’s background including her master excites me. Thrawn knew anakin, knew Vader, and knew Vader was anakin. And if there’s a chance we get a flashback of thrawn and one of them (unlikely) I’ll die.

[@AndreNitroX]

Yes please!

[@nerdock4747]

​@@AndreNitroX YOU WANT HIM TO DIE?! I would actually also trade him for a Thrawn/Vader flashback.

[@mrj1299]

not gonna happen.

[@Ruscococo1]

Vader and Thrawn respected each other...The Emperor gave Thrawn his own Empire because of his battle tactics.

[@AndreNitroX]

LOL@@nerdock4747

[@Ar1AnX1x]

I love how Filoni just doesn't let Sabine use the force, bro is trolling Sabine in every episode

[@SoldierSpiderx]

true but I got a horrible feeling that in the end at the last second she going used the force to save someone and it going be well earn or dumb

[@Thisguy2532]

@@SoldierSpiderxI feel you on that but imo it’s probably gonna be well earned because even when she was in the cell and she tried to open the door and we see the crumbling from the walls and I was like nahh not yet and yep not yet lmao I think it’s gonna happen at a very pivotal moment or heck it might not happen at all it could very well be a moment where she absolutely tries and fails and someone dies and through that trauma she might actually unlock her abilities and Ashoka has to slow her down because she was channeling the darkside, very much like Naruto anime when an uchiha unlocks there special eye the sharingan only happens when they suffer a terrible trauma

[@SoldierSpiderx]

@@Thisguy2532that would be way better cause I think she going do the force when she need someone or she save herself and it either going be cringle as hell or earn and that I would that way better that she try used the force to save someone and that person died and she end up tap in the dark side of the force

[@Trocify225]

I love it I can’t stand her ass lol

[@deweycheetumhowe]

Maybe Ezra will help her connect with it more.

[@Narukamiiii]

I do not mind Thrawn being horizontally challenged, the actor wholly makes up for it

[@Texansfan59]

I didnt even notice 😂 so not a big deal

[@JZ3987]

Dude is 6’4” wym

[@yungsteezy]

I'm pretty sure it is just the costume design, he doesn't look that big in real life 😂

[@RoninXsumari]

He said horizontal, not vertical haha. The guy has a bit of a pot belly @@JZ3987

[@TheDarkPorkins]

Yeah his uniform is clearly WELL worn. Hes probbaly only got a few. Im not sure how many wears you can get before it starts getting baggy and loose :P@@yungsteezy

[@scewtie]

The fact that Thrawn said to Morgan, who's this jedi? Tell me everything about her and her master had me excited to see Thrawn's reaction to Ahsoka being Anakin's padawan and to see how that interactions going to play out.

[@TheDarkPorkins]

How does Thrawn not know of Ahsoka, though? He has worked with Anakin before.

[@kushpatel1191]

It was before Anakin got Ahsoka @@TheDarkPorkins

[@keithsantos489]

​@@kushpatel1191if i recall correctly, they first met after Ahsoka already left the order.

[@DarthSharp]

I'm curious if there is a continuity error here, because I am pretty sure Padme` told Thrawn about her...

[@canadianrage5224]

@@DarthSharpEven If Padme had mentioned her name to Thrawn, this would of been like 30 years ago. I know Thrawn is a genius, but I’d be shocked if he could remember the name some random girl briefly mentioned to him 30 years ago lmao

[@bodhithemetahuman2531]

I don't know what is was, but something about Thrawn's Stormtroopers, namely the cracked, dirty armor, made them look so much more intimidating than regular stormtroopers

[@HolyknightVader999]

These bastards have been through hell and back. They're like the Imperial version of Chaos Marines.

[@markriedel1977]

hardened exiled and seen some shit

[@Afroninjaa1458]

I know I’m like these troopers look like they can aim 😮🔥🔥 especially with the mis match helmets and little trims of gold on some of the troopers is so cool!

[@Haegemon]

Got that uneasy feeling. Scary and undead perhaps?

[@Texansfan59]

And the golden mask the one with cracked gold in the armor they made the storm troopers look badass

[@Ar1AnX1x]

I liked the part where he looked really serious at Sabine and said "you gambled on your galaxy just for a chance to bang Ezra?"

[@bears2life366]

Lmao fr

[@Kingslayer50008a]

😅

[@alicesaxon601]

Sabine has been nothing but a dumbass the entire show

[@anthonytrevino3191]

Idk they never had that vibe before. Ezra always annoyed Sabine up until the last ep and this show where she honors him like a god lol

[@HolyknightVader999]

Lol he's probably waiting to pump her all these years.

[@InDebt8]

Having served in the U.S. Navy, I can tell that older high ranking officers have the same body shape are Thrawn.

[@romulocardoso3380]

My man has been bulking for a very long time while training for his return

[@TronBKNY]

EM1(nuke)- formerly here…. So do all the females young to old

[@winwhite1915]

This is Starwars not earth

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817]

@@winwhite1915 Ah yes, because overweight and stout people don't exist in Star Wars... 🙄

[@winwhite1915]

Ash yes Jack black ... got cha

[@DonoTheGamer]

I am absolutely loving Kevin Kiner's music for the series. I am so glad they got him for live action. He's a genius. Although I loved Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2, this show is my favorite so far. Filoni has brought beloved animation characters to live action successfully.

[@tylersilver3957]

Man it’s a great stars shows but come on mandalorian season 2 is the best Star Wars since revenge of the sith

[@richardjohnson9543]

Lars is truly scary as live action Thrawn, and I'm convinced his army is undead. Btw did anyone notice the Star Trek sound effects on the Eye Of Sion?

[@taddad2641]

they need the ichor of Dathomir to make an undead move. they are notably just feral zombies and there are many limitations, including that when the preson that conjuring them dies, they all just collapse. also even the mother died.

[@squattingheads]

what scene was he scary in? what about it?

[@winwhite1915]

Is that a good thing?

[@Senorbenignhillarity]

​@@squattingheads i dont know how anyones scared by him. like dude looks and acts like a cali ceo. maybe its just past fans rewriting from headcannon but all i got was softspoken flabby dude

[@Master_Of_Machines]

@@Senorbenignhillarityhe isn’t scary in a vader why that’s not what makes him scary, he’s scary in the same way Saw is, cold old and cunning, b/c someone who holds all that power as just a normal person has earned it! And he has with his anything for victory mindset and above everyone’s head level of thinking

[@aaronskinner4973]

For anyone curious, Lars Mikkelsen (Thrawn) was also the actor for Russian President Petrov in House of Cards. This role in Ahsoka must have felt right at home for him, as both roles saw him playing a intimidating, dangerous and cunning thug in a seat of absolute power. His mannerisms and stature fit these roles naturally.

[@stevenshatswell53]

I think he's the voice of Thrawn in the animated series

[@Michael-hc2vs]

Plus he was Magnusson in Sherlock

[@Zespeth]

How dare you! Thrawn is not a thug :P

[@Darkerthanblack247]

holy! I didn't even make the connection, that's dope, knew he I've seen him somewhere before.

[@joeybulford5266]

I think Thrawn has the posture of a seahorse

[@TrisTime]

I'm 100% with Alex, the "Cargo" that was being loaded onto the hyperspace ring did look awfully casket shaped/sized, it would make perfect sense for them to be bringing a bunch of dead sisters or Zabracks (Darth mauls people) who are also closely tied to the Night sisters as priorly both had their homeworld as Dathomir.

[@Bayofthe91st]

(cue Sabaton's The attack of the dead men)

[@nickhartung6941]

It's absolutely dead night sisters she even says they're coming from the catacombs

[@siderealrose]

i've always wanted a 'death troopers' film. Great book.

[@dagreenflamingo105]

Holy shit what if maul dead ass in there

[@Ruscococo1]

@@dagreenflamingo105 they can't bring him back twice...he was killed by Obi Wan, his purpose was fore filled.

[@Chairmakersfilms]

If Balen is to be re cast (assuming he survives),how about Rory McCann who played the hound in Game of Thrones taking over the role. He has the physical presence, is in the same age range, and we know he can play deeply cynical but ultimately caring characters.

[@espi371]

Unironically a genius idea.

[@nickferguson1998]

I can’t believe I’m the only one that thinks graham mctavish would be the perfect recast

[@Bayofthe91st]

as long as he ends every sentence with 'yarp'

[@domingorubies656]

Get the family’s permission and use that Indy 5/Luke in Mando deepfake face scanning for Ray.

[@GreenFalcon926]

@@nickferguson1998 Yes. Graham would be a perfect reacting choice. He looks very much like Ray, and is a great actor. It's a shame we have to talk about this though.

[@timmy3822]

What really struck me was the use of kintsugi on the trooper armour. The Japanese practice of using gold to fill in gaps from broken items, to allow them to be used again. I thought it was a real cool metaphor for Thrawns admiration for art and history, whilst also having a practical application; isolated and unable to replace equipment it retains capability. Would it be too much to think that Bendu could play a role here? Thrawn was visibly shaken by his encounter with it, an unknown that was beyond his understanding. I’m intrigued tbh! Can’t wait for the next episode.

[@Fadaar]

i think Bendu would be a bit much, they already used their "wtf?" card with the world between worlds

[@timmy3822]

@@Fadaar idk, that was heavily suggested not by the font used for the show so I was pretty much expecting it to appear at some point or another. Who knows, it’s pure speculation but I’m curious what could cause nightsisters and Thrawn to be like “yeah we need to gtfo”.

[@CesarDaSalad]

@@Fadaar Indeed. Rebels was a cartoon after all, and they did a lot of silly stuff that wouldn't fly on live action. Bendu was probably one of those so I highly doubt we'll see him as he was in the show. (Also why would he be in another galaxy at all?)

[@jakewheeler6014]

@@CesarDaSalad Can you imagine if Bendu after what happens in rebels season 3 goes to a whole other galaxy and is like ah peace at last and months later Thrawn and Ezra show up and he's just like why me.

[@CesarDaSalad]

@@jakewheeler6014 That would be hilarious! 😂😂😂

[@aryanak1234]

Alex’s face when Joe mentions Anakin becoming ‘the balance’ in the force kills me😂

[@danyknight9107]

Because he realizes the tremendous stupidity of that. That "balance" thing is Joe simply writing for Filoni, no one, no fan is right now getting a similar conclusion of what the point or lesson of the last episode was because it wasn't. That hole ep 5 was MASSIVE fanservice with no meaning or impact on the actual story. When you put that episode under proper scrutiny, it falls apart into pieces. It was nice to get Hayden back, but it was a very poor way to get him back. Filoni simply isn't up to that level of writing.

[@thelaughinggod3116]

@@danyknight9107 You can shut up and leave now you cant say anything until the season is over pretty sure 5 will connect to 7 or 8.

[@Paulfromwish]

@@danyknight9107how was anikan not the balance? Its widely accepted among serious fans the Jedi had to be brought down and for me at least I feel Qui-gon knew that

[@oculum5042]

He’s not “The Balance”. He BROUGHT balance to the force. You know, at one point.

[@johndoe9576]

@@Paulfromwish I dont understand you so called, "serious fans." So you're saying that balance of the force was bring down the Jedi? So the Sith lords could take the republic and turn into an empire. Gain more power and to use the force selfishly. Create a dictatorship that enslave people. Create a death star to blow up entire planets to enforce their rule. Create a government run like nazis. And left the galaxy in darkness. That's what made Anakin the chosen one? That's what bringing balance is?

[@SoranotRoxas]

*Lars played Thrawn perfectly! (I know he did the voice in Rebels, but to see it in Live-action is truly something legendary.)* Another banger of an episode 🔥

[@desmondbrown2813]

​@@beg4mercy890Been 10 years. Even Aliens age.

[@Automaton237]

​@@beg4mercy890it's been 10 years he's going to age a little bit and it's not like he's completely unlike the character he still has the same mannerisms and intelligent, calm personality he's a real threat unlike Palpatine were he got defeated by Ray somehow like why did he keep electrocuting himself why did he not stop using the lightning like why

[@Al-Ghaibb]

@@beg4mercy890 So many people making excuses for Thrawn being fat and having a receding hairline lol, as if Disney couldn't afford to give the actor a personal trainer and a gym membership. Just utter laziness.

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

@@Al-Ghaibb Lol, stop nitpicking. The acting is more important than physical stature.

[@CrimsonCruz92]

So wait, Ezra was that close to the Nightsisters, they can take notice of Ahsoka's approach in the Space Whales but couldn't locate Ezra🤔. Also why did the Nightsisters identify Sabine as a Jedi when she can't even use the force?

[@akdreamer6497]

She smelled like Ahsoka.

[@NotSoSvenn]

Ezra could have cut himself off similar to luke. Sabine is unable to use the force but force users can sense it within her which is just another way of telling you she has enough in her but she cannot access it because she has no training and balance.

[@aribeck4298]

I understood it as they can sense a presence but maybe not necessarily pin point that presence. They knew Ezra was there and could sense that but they just couldn't figure out his exact location. I could be just trying to explain away a plot issue though 🤷‍♂️

[@winwhite1915]

And being surprised at baylin

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817]

@@aribeck4298 No that's actually pretty valid, the Nightsisters aren't GPS lol, even Mother Talzin couldn't specifically pin point where Darth Maul was...

[@georgielee1619]

Thrawn's clothes being immaculate compared to the Stormtroopers armour having been repaired and patched up haphazardly so many times was such a cool visual.

[@Altair676]

Thrawn's clothes do have frays and worn spots on them that you can see in close ups. I think I like the idea more that as much as Thrawn tries to keep up an immaculate appearance, he cannot completely hide the toll the years of exile has taken on him.

[@johno1544]

The gold repaired Storm Trooper armour look really cool. Great visual design

[@podunk3202]

best they can do for Baylan Skoll and Shin Hati is to continue their story in animation form. They can recast using a voice actor while they look for a real life replacement for Baylan. If for some reason they cant find someone to replace Baylan, I guess they can finally write the Baylan character off before the movie comes out. Also what would turn Shin Hati to the good side would be Baylan death in the hands of Thrawn or the Night Sisters

[@maestrogringo]

My guess is Baylan will either be killed by Thrawn or left behind by them in the finale

[@AkiraShima2828]

I wouldn't say it would turn shin light side. If anything it might make her more dark. She would probably be fueled by anger over the death of her father errr I mean master, especially if it was thrawn or whoever.

[@14supersonic]

I was thinking the same thing, and coincidentally they have the perfect device for this. Tales of the Jedi. Maybe S2 can be a combined telling of his story before Ahsoka, and then after the events of Ahsoka. That is if he lives. This way, they can organically close out his story if need be.

[@RandomThoughtsW]

OMG, THE VISUALS!! THE VISTAS!! did you see those vistas..VERY COOL, VERY COOL. *seal claps*

[@GamingEntertainmentTelevison]

Sabine didn't actually block a shot with the light saber. Alex is getting old and misremembering 😂😂 She blocked shots with beskar... Alex hatred for Sabine has clouded his judgement!! 😂

[@andythai8676]

26:53 blocked by lightsaber…I think you’re just a blind tard 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Raul_Menendez]

I swear Alex is the definition of THAT guy you hate at parties. "Every party needs a pooper thats why they invited you, Party pooper. Party pooper" - Super Kami Guru

[@hackintosh3899]

Alex is the only one there with an IQ over room temperature.

[@thomassmart4088]

yep well summed-up ... seems every vid now - Joe jumps in all excited - and then Alex comes in with the heavy-duty sourpuss routine

[@anthonyplanzo1082]

He's the only one who sees this pos show for what it is. It's awful and he knows it

[@yodieyuh]

"I'm the party pooper." - Detective John Kimble

[@DresdenShuffle]

He’s always been that way, it’s why a lot of people stopped watching Angry Joe

[@Bluesruse]

10/10 y'all crazy as fuck. I'm gona say 7. The Ezra reunion wasn't even just "muted", it was absolutely fucking stupid if you stop to think even for a second.

[@richardkongshavnmortensen1176]

Question: Is it just me or is the music of Ahsoka just incredibly reactive to the scenes? I feel that the orchestra is sitting watching the episode adding the music live. So good, so addaptive and alive. Fantastic.

[@enrikekasijas705]

Music is amazing ❤ I agree with entirly. Thrawn theme is amazing too. And when he marched that cyber orchesta theme just nailed it! Ahsoka is amazing series and them focusing on soundtrack is something that new movies avoid to do. I love it❤

[@icyrazor]

Not only would you have to find someone as big as Ray, you have to find someone who acts as well, has the presence and can emulate his accent

[@Pixelkip]

he has so much emotion within being stoic, probably the most intruiging character ever in star wars next to thrawn

[@mrsickukxx1332]

It would be a wild card but Alexander Skarsgård is 6,3 just like Ray and has a great screen presence. He’s a bit slimmer and ten yrs younger but I think he could pull it off. Jeffrey Dean Morgan looks a bit like Ray. He’s a bit shorter but not by much and the guy can definitely act..I’ve got no idea if he can do the accent though.

[@alanhajdukovic5738]

​​@@mrsickukxx1332Gerard Butler

[@gdriscoll4947]

Visually stunning… that’s about it for the positives tbh.

[@cacophonic7]

It’s not well explained, but I think the implication is that the Purgill showing up in the Mandalorian, and then the events in Ahsoka, is that we are seeing a rare migration of Purgill that only happens every (however long Ezra has been gone). That’s why they are all there, and that’s why they all are going to Peridea. It would have been cool for that to be explained better.

[@StuffForsale-p8j]

Lol, Alex does not look impressed. You can tell he does not agree with most of Joe's takes. Seems to have a more logical non-biased view on media 👍

[@mrcreed1256]

Everyone is asking whether these stormtroopers are undead, but aren't asking what killed this many of them. I wonder if this is going to hint of the return of the Yuuzhan Vong.

[@Halfulll]

This. They were clearly in battle with something, lost troopers and the ship was visibly damage repaired. The night sisters are also clearly scared of something on that planet.

[@sillerbarly4927]

They would never bring back the Vong, it would quickly make any project rated R if they do the Vong right and Disney would not let it happen

[@SemperReloaded]

Am I watching a different show than Joe? Is Disney paying for this? Why does Alex look soo miserable? None of this makes any sense.

[@noveldefender9815]

I really hope they get Timothy Zahn (who created Thrawn character) to work with Dave Filoni that way we get the perfect character and the most faithful Heir to the Empire adaptation as possible! Maybe even see a certain Redhead purple saber wielder 😉...

[@haxorsp00n]

They did consult Timothy Zahn when making Ashoka

[@PuppetMaster-Blade]

No to the last part..

[@anthonyhampton2991]

It’s too late for them to bring back Mara Jade . It would make completely no sense

[@AzureVengence2788]

Zahn was involved in writing Ahsoka. He oversaw Thrawn's characterization.

[@Fadaar]

unless they recast Luke for this time period (COUGH COUGH SEBASTIAN STAN COUGH COUGH) Mara Jade would be a waste

[@prosperouslife]

I dont understand why Joe is Simping so hard for this show. Because they sprinkled some "member Berries" and choclate chips over this turd that is the script does not make the show Good or smart. Star wars will never be back, if they keep needing to refer previous ideas and movies just to get your thumbs....up??? Making Sabine a upcoming Padawan / Jedi / Mandalorian is just dumb, and the meeting between Ezra and Sabine not getting the characters to figger out first if they had or was a thing or if Sabine and Asoka was a thing... honestly. I respected Joe's opinions but this is just dumb.

[@Siegbert85]

I don't know who any of those people are... for me this was god awfully boring

[@bears2life366]

“If you see a starship destroy it with prejudice” I love that line

[@sidjay1220]

*star whale

[@stealthstandard]

@@sidjay1220 The problem is that this is a grave yard of space whales. Attack the whales aren't a great idea if your outnumbered greatly.

[@hakim6933]

Erza rejected the idea of taking back his light saber is stupid. It's Yours! For crying out loud. He chose that crystal as a Padawan.

[@koolerpure]

The ship lowering its hanger over the tower was a badass thing to do. I lost my self when I saw blue Elon musks walk into scene but over all I’m excited as hell for the thrawn movie

[@CodyL100]

For me that was an all time great moment, you felt the scale of Thrawn's entrance. Elon would do this 100%

[@revolverocelot1380]

​@@CodyL100Thrawn is a genius though and musk is a moron wtf are you on about?

[@markusmoller8653]

@@CodyL100 i thought several times that the scale was off. the tower of the witches was way to small compared to the hangar with all the troopers together. Same with the landing ship. When it landed it looked way to small compared to the scenes when we see everyone in it.

[@Automaton237]

​@@markusmoller8653how is that sort of a complaint it was still a cool scene and we haven't seen the full ship yet and half the crew is probably dead so it makes sense for him to not have an army

[@gallien]

The patience in Alex is unreal.

[@ppsarrakis]

i felt that AJ let him speak just fine on this one.

[@Kaodusanya]

@@ppsarrakishe is too much of a hater honestly

[@jayc5555]

Key jangling is strong with this series

[@brandonsmisek6334]

Did we see the same Mauler video? Lol

[@LordofLions]

Yall get your opinions from KZbinrs, clearly

[@ash072]

And for those that have been living under a rock, just a reminder that Lars Mikkelsen is the younger brother of Mads Mikkelsen. Like the Skarsgard's from Sweden, the Mikkelsen's are an acting family from Denmark with titanic amounts of talent - Lars, Mads, Henning are all actors while Lars and Mads's mom is a costumer and wardrobe artist. And any Star Wars fan can tell you some of the most memorable characters have been those played by Mads Mikkelsen and Stellan Skarsgard.... and now we have Thrawn played by Lars.

[@iNotoriousAJ]

05:10 Alex's facial reaction had me rolling 😂😂

[@squattingheads]

are we still doing this braindead thing of "balance between dark and light"? How do these people not understand that the jedi were the balance. You have to be in peace with yourself to be spiritual powerful and use the force for good. THAT was the original massage and what we should aim for.

[@heebiejeebies4625]

@@squattingheads Legends was the same exact way up until a point where it worked it to how you said, but unfortunately the problem came back with The Ones with the Clone Wars and now the writers just seem genuinely confused and unsure what to do. But tbf this is a problem that came before Disney. Edit: Ig maybe not if you interpret it as Anakin deciding to leave Mortis disrupted the balance and he became Darth Vader as a result. Still a stupid plot device though like you said.

[@ramonmuniz4950]

@@squattingheadswhats your point?

[@JayTekken1]

Lmao, he had the Robert De Niro face of disapproval for a second there.

[@captironsight]

I want Abeloth. An eldritch horror tied to the Mortis Panthon as "The Mother" would be awesome.

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817]

They'd have to nerf her...

[@Azurek1991]

Absolutely not, the Legacy era of the old EU is just as bad as the sequels.

[@excessmaterial]

​@@Azurek1991Definitely isn't lol

[@Azurek1991]

@@excessmaterial I’m not arguing this. What they did to Jacen after he saved the galaxy from the Yuuzhan Vong was not right.

[@Red_Rebel]

I love the synergy between Alex and Joe, they agree or disagree or both and it’s awesome.

[@stakkadakka3427]

They need Alex's side so bad.

[@VenturaHighwayman]

I think Alex opposes many thematic choices that are thing established from rebels which he said he has no background knowledge of. Some of his points are fair but you can’t expect a show that is lead by established characters to not use and build upon established lore.

[@FrazzyNZ]

Im just hyped to see a followup movie series with Thrawn. I'm hoping we get that. This episode just has me soo hyped. Thrawns return with his night troopers was soooo good.

[@sonord2074]

How quickly we forget Andor.... this is not better than Andor but it was solid

[@Sam-jx8tv]

It's not as good a show as Andor but I could argue it's a better star wars show than Andor. Both fill different roles and scratch different itches for me.

[@firstlast9846]

*I genuinely hate that* people go crazy over a project - then turn on it when given the next thing.. Ashoka is enjoyable but it’s not touching Andor

[@sonord2074]

@@Sam-jx8tv you can argue that but I would only let it slide because Andor makes a point to not include a SINGLE mention of the Jedi or the force, so yes there is clearly an itch that we need other shows to scratch, that is the only reason I'll let you have that cuz otherwise Andor is so far above asohka I could not reconcile it lol. Andor is objectively a better show in every way otherwise

[@rgonz81]

​@@sonord2074subjectively. Your opinion a fact does not make.

[@Apac12]

People quickly forgetting about andor is 1. the way of the internet and 2. a testiment of andor.

[@Nick_Barone]

My nit pick is definitely how small the galaxy comes across……. Plus it doesn’t help how small the planet itself felt. Was Ezra just chilling a few miles away ? I hope they at least mention some other planets that exist in this galaxy and maybe some of the power/political structures there. Obviously can’t get into too much exploration of it but a little exposition would help give it life instead of it feeling like just another planet…. (Unless maybe they’ll save all that for a new trilogy, the one we deserve lol)🤞

[@AkiraShima2828]

That definitely ain't happening. I would be shocked if you even see more of this planet

[@nfrance999]

I agree that the planet felt too small, but I doubt we explore this new galaxy. The point is they basically pop in, pick up thrown, than leave, they aren’t spending more time than they want to. What I think they MIGHT do is set up for the future to revisit this galaxy tho and actually explore it now that we know it exists.

[@claykeough7898]

100% agree. Missed opportunity having a true journey for Sabine. All these references of films like neverending story labyrinth, etc and all those in the 80's had more adventure and world building than this big budget Disney ish. I'm not saying I'm not enjoying it more than anything most Disney right now but our expectations are obviously very very low these days when it comes to creative original content and adventure. 😢

[@One.Zero.One101]

The writers won't explore this new galaxy I guarantee that, just like they didn't explore the crime underworld in Boba Fett. Apart from Andor, character exploration and theme exploration in Disney Star Wars is very surface level.

[@williamvarga4181]

This episode really made me think they could have made the sequel trilogy based on a powerful enemy coming from this galaxy to invade and be an enemy to the new republic. They could have had new styles of enemy with new designed soldiers/crafts, new ways of wielding the force and been a real threat. If you wanted to include some of the nostalgia you could have had Luke rebuild a version of the Jedi order and be the guide to some new Jedi fighting against the invasion. Good writers could have come up with a compelling reason for why they wanted to invade and built new stories around that. The way Baylan was talking about the power he felt and he could have been the catalyst for bringing them to the galaxy. Also the new republic could have shown that despite some flaws, they we’re uniting planets and things were working ok until they had a new fight on their hands. Instead we are stuck with a rehashed story with the empire mk2 and bringing tired villains back from the dead. I feel the only way to build a new story now is to leave Ahsoka and co in this new galaxy where they have a blank slate to start fresh.

[@Fadaar]

the original Thrawn & Yuuzhan Vong books could have easily been their own trilogies. almost like they had a blueprint sitting there since the 90's but no, they had to go make up some dumb shit instead. doesnt help that they waited WAY too long to do a sequel trilogy with how hard the old books leaned on the OT characters, they would have had to do the sequel trilogy instead of the prequels (ie 1999-2005 timeframe) for those to work without major character changes.

[@tomch6799]

That is exactly what happened in the EU, i dunno why they didn't do that story

[@Nick_Barone]

Agree 100%……. I’m hoping that maybe we kinda get that but set in this new galaxy instead since they already botched the other one lol….. Use this new galaxy as a type of soft reboot or something like that….

[@ergob3907]

Yeah part of me is hoping they stay in this new galaxy, maybe find some other planets there. Narratively the main galaxy is in a dead end. It’s boring af after all this build up and world building in these shows the story is just going to revert to “plucky rebels vs Palpatine and his big empire and death stars” again. It’s pretty obvious Disney regrets not doing Thrawn as the Sequels big bad

[@stephanl2409]

So in an entirely different galaxy , on a huge alien planet , sabine finds ezra in less time than it takes me to clean my appartment and go to the local shops . Hera, sabine and ahsoka act like theyre on valium or have long covid .

[@nerdock4747]

To be fair, A) they only have 8 episodes and B) Thrawn literally gave her their "last known location" for Ezra and likely Ezra would be close by anyway due to proximity (he basically fell out of the star destroyer with no vehicle transportation) as well as likely trying to keep an eye on Thrawn. While yes, the simplified concept is totally true, I think there's other reasonable factors that exist to explain it.

[@mrsickukxx1332]

This is nothing new in SW…just like Luke just happens to crash land right next to Yoda on Dagobah.

[@Saviorprimo-incog]

I haven’t watched rebels yet and don’t really know much lore but just the presence thrawn brings is chilling, he demands everyone’s attention without even raising his voice and when he asks for background on Ashoka that gave me chills. Its so cool how his troopers are these broken and decrepit versions of the clean trooper armor we normally see. It adds this contrast between thrawn and his soldiers that builds this unease with him and I love it. Also making baylan and shin have this mysterious arc, its so interest. Also the interaction between Ashoka and huyang was great.

[@mysticstrikeforce5957]

um be careful how you say you don't want rebels or or the clone wars. Loads of fans will come at you like crazy.

[@akdreamer6497]

​@@mysticstrikeforce5957 You literally made that up.

[@Beagle-Gaming]

Alexs face when AJ describes the episode in the beginning is 100

[@ShootItALBY]

Joe is always looking happy while Alex just wants to get this review over with lol

[@hackintosh3899]

One is happy being an unethical shill. The other is not.

[@nickhartung6941]

This episode was amazing i am so happy we got Thrawn and Ezra in episode 6 and not have them cram it all in the last episode

[@mattcgw]

Basic competence is what passes for masterclass now with star wars?!

[@Chris-yz7cs]

Yup, the cope is strong here, no doubt. Don't ask questions, Just Consume Product and Then Get Excited for the next product

[@litguru4748]

Basic competence? Where? Go open up the episode right now, go to the 21 minute mark, and play Sabine's line: "If you survived I'm sure he's doing just fine." Could her actor have delivered that line worse if she had tried to? Just as an example for how not 10/10 this episode was and this show is.

[@aqwDIGEDO]

Not sure how y’all can enjoy these,it’s literally a show for children man, the script is so poor and lazy..

[@behar225]

They thought that the Barbie movie was good...

[@BigScheer]

I have to agree with Alex in that Sabine is still getting on my nerves. She's perpetually ungrateful and had no accountability. It's hard to cheer for her. I get that she has to suck a little so they can develop her character, but it seems like she's more or less getting everything she wants so far. I'm hoping there are harsh consequences for her actions to teach her a lesson, harsher than just a bunch of unnamed rebels dying when Thrawn returns. She seems ridiculously stubborn so her simply saying sorry and being a better person won't work. Something real bad needs to happen for her to have believable growth.

[@AkiraShima2828]

Yeah I hate her character. If she wasn't in this show then it would make it better

[@Ken4Thom]

Took the words right out of my mouth. I’m trying to not hate her character but it’s getting a little annoying. I wouldn’t care as much if she didn’t dominate screen time in a show named AHSOKA.

[@firestarter000001]

Agreed. She is like this spoiled kid, who everybody think is special, no matter what they do, and she screws up continously with 0 reflection and accountobiliy. Also she acts all the time like an annoying teenager. In episode 6 for example, she is alone on this planet, lost part of ther quipement fighting the bandits, the wolf-mount comes back, and she is annoyed with it that it run.. It feels so silly, she should be grateful that she lucked lucked aht it came back and just fetched him, that she has a better chance to survive. I know its Star Wars, meaning its not a realism based movie, but it still feels so artifical, silly, and annoying.

[@BigScheer]

@@firestarter000001 The scene with her mount frustrated me as well. They tried to do the cute comedy scene from one of the Toy Story movies where Woody shoos Bullseye away. It worked there because we know that Woody is a good guy who was just being unreasonable because he was upset. Here, it didn't work because that's how Sabine acts all the time. It's not a comedic departure from her character because she's upset, it's just more of her being annoying and it piles on.

[@sumtynnaztee]

I can't stand Sabine. Her decisions are so selfish, and she needs to have real consequences for her actions. "We had a deal." Line was overused and the fact she believes total strangers to keep their word is so childish. She needs to lose an arm or leg or be hurt in some terrible way to pay for her actions. Sabine, as a character in this show, doesn't work.

[@anthonyhampton2991]

I keep saying that shot of the chimera rising above that temple thing might be one of the coolest looking shots I’ve ever seen in Star Wars!

[@dreamlandnightmare]

First time you get a true sense of the size of a Star Destroyer, even more so than the scenes in Rogue One. (And to think a Super Star Destroyer is 12 times as long.)

[@maskmaker6374]

I think the clearest hint that the Troopers are dead is when you listen to Enoch with Sabine he says "Die Well" as though their deaths is something they do over and over again. So they do not live well they Die well. I also hope the power he is talking about is the Yu Zhon Von.

[@REYfromTX]

You’re overthinking this, dude. “Die well” doesn’t imply the one saying it is dead - it’s a cliche phrase people say in media when they expect the person they’re saying it to die.

[@Ichsukatanuka]

Man it was so good, great visuals, seeing thrawn in live action and Ezra too, they did well with the casting. Night sisters, dark forces hinted at 👀 I like how foreign and weird the new galaxy seems too, Thrawn wants to leave ASAP, wonder why...

[@mmacias327]

I hope we get to see the Yuuzhan Vong in this series Thrawn was ready to dip so fast and when he said I've already lost too many forces I got so excited no one's ever put him in a position of fear.

[@firstlast9846]

“ *Star Wars is Back* “ we’ve been doing this since 2015 - BRO STOP 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Draikenx]

It always amuses me when Joe talks over Alex when he says something he doesn't like haha.

[@jimmyb79]

Is Angry Joe supposed to be a channel for children/young teenagers?

[@WhiteBuffaloWakanGli]

The gold armor on the troopers is a reference to the art form called Kintsugi. It’s done by repairing things with gold. I thought that was pretty cool.

[@julianmartlnez]

I don’t even care that Ashoka was barely in this episode

[@firstlast9846]

Every time she’s on screen I get tired.. she’s so wooden and uncharismatic - much preferred Sabine this episode

[@Chris-yz7cs]

In a show called Ahsoka, that's only 8 eps long to not feature the title charicter is becoming a Disney norm.

[@xavierbreath2227]

Ahsoka and her entourage are the least interesting characters.

[@julianmartlnez]

@@Chris-yz7cs exactly wasn’t this the biggest problem with boba fett 😂

[@quigglyz]

Less Ahsoka = better

[@carlstanford7607]

Sabine sacrificed a galaxy to save Ezra but when reunited opens with quips. No emotion. No humanity. Just a bro hug. It’s so awkward

[@mikerotonda6264]

IM SO GLAD THEY GOT ELON MUSK TO PLAY THRAWN!! AT FIRST I WAS LIKE COME ON, BUT AFTER SEEING HIM, HE DID A GREAT JOB!!

[@selfishisaiah610]

The way they can fix baylyn passing away in real life is just give him a mask and voice modulator. Rest in piece he was my favorite part of the show

[@909bkaby]

Yeah that’s the best way to do it

[@chriscox1798]

Am I watching a dfferent show? This show is crap. Remember when lightsabers killed people, now its merely an inconvenience. Long unnecessary pauses, crap dialogue. Star Wars deserves better.

[@Edssonson]

I think we are lol, Thrawn was done pretty well and is exactly like he is in Rebels, calm and ruthless. I could excuse his appearance since he's supposed to be around 70. I could also excuse Sabine fighting with a lightsaber and not really killing anyone with it since she just got back into training. But I didn't like how she gets stabbed with a lightsaber only for her to recover like it was an ordinary stab wound. The thing pierced at least a few vital organs, it would've also taken months for the doctors to regrow the organs that were fried and vaporized (They apparently can do that in the SW universe) other than that I think the show is pretty good. I just wish Disney let lightsabers work like lightsabers instead of just being regular swords that glow. I didn't think the dialogue was bad and is on the level of most of the other SW shows since it's all made by the same guy. I also don't know what you mean by "long pauses" I didn't notice any pauses that were too long or drawn out

[@liamphibia]

*Barely* an inconvenience!🤓

[@peterhansen-limbert8548]

Somebody doesn't remember some of the real cringe parts of the OT

[@chriscox1798]

@peterhansen-limbert8548 the OT transcended generations, regardless of its minimal cringe moments. Disney Star Wars entries are firgotten soon after they are released. Star Wars is unfortunately dead and Disney killed it and defiled the corpse.

[@chriscox1798]

@@Edssonson read the Heir to the Empire trilogy.

[@thehumantoeRD]

I would like to see a Darth Nihilus type entity. It could be feeding on the sisters which is why they fear it. Could be neat if done well.

[@vongoku]

Soon as you said who should play him. I thought it and you said it. Liev Schreiber. They should recast, assuming the character survives the story. Ashoka gives me a new hope for the future of starwars

[@Fernando5455Jr]

The biggest problem is the Force itself. That's why Kreia hated the Force because the Force uses everyone. That's why the Wars never end.

[@deweycheetumhowe]

The writing for her was brilliant.

[@rhymenoceros3303]

Funnily enough, Baylan is channeling a lot of Kreia into her and there's a lot of hints that his character is going in that direction.

[@kranzferguson1852]

The experience is so different when you didnt watch rebels and your not theory crafting . If you just watch this series the pacing is real bad and dialog is almost non-existant. This show really needed a script doctor to make these character 3 dimensional, instead of just relying on seasons of rebels.

[@curian1286]

"Did you eat'em?" 😂😂😂 that cracked me up, Oj. Bravo 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@benmasta5814]

I'm always here more for alex/oj's opinion on this stuff. AJ is way too easy to please lmao

[@curian1286]

Lol Hungry Joe

[@yesandnogamerproductions5733]

I can see past Thrawn being kinda chubby, the guy is like 68-70 years old at this point in time. He still looks pretty good for his age, especially for someone who is stranded billions of lightyears away from home with only a busted up ship, a legion of possibly dead stormtroopers, and Enoch with his Roman funerary mask. I'm confused why there weren't any navy personnel/officers seen either, since there are more of those guys on star destroyers than storm troopers so it's odd they aren't seen in the crowd, maybe we'll see them and it's going to reveal they are actually undead or show that there was a mutiny and there was a disagreement of some sort which made the storm troopers fight with the remaining navy personnel

[@djkaoken2002]

I believe the reason the Night Sisters have made a deal with Thrawn is yes something they fear is coming and they want off the planet or system.

[@taddad2641]

.....there is a msallll problem they are all dead dude. aside for some stragglers, the night sistesr were massacred by the seperatists, by general grievous. The mother herself survived but she either died failing to get some force power from another, or died saving maul in the comics. so how the fuck are they here and how are there so many? they are part of a hybrid/sub species of zebrakk and all their dudes would be back on dafomir.

[@ppsarrakis]

think about for a sec,there is a reason the purrgils die there and hav e aring of death around,they sacrifice themselves to keep an evil on the the planet....

[@DarksideGmss0513]

​​@@taddad2641this is the ancient homeworld of the nightsisters and I believe the things in the crates that they want thrawn to transport are the dead nightsisters that then they will take back to dathomir and resurrect. That would be part of their deal.

[@chazo1367]

@@taddad2641 the episode explains how they are here. It’s their ancient home world. They came from here originally on the star whales. This is where it began for the ancient Dathomir.

[@akajimzi]

Imagine if Alex hosted these reviews and kept the tempo.

[@TheRetifox]

Man, Star Wars is such a big universe, and all of the content of this universe is about the same 5 people lol

[@firstlast9846]

We haven’t had a original Star Wars character with their own show since 2019….. 4 years of nostalgia baiting

[@Chris-yz7cs]

Yup, because the mouse will kick that dead horse to dust before they come up with anything original for this dying IP.

[@oxideactual1018]

We all saw how that turned out in the sequel trilogy.😬

[@Thaumaturge2251]

Calling it now, in the last 3 mins of the last episode, Boba Fett rocks up on the slowest moving space moped, 360 no scopes Thrawn and then hovers awkwardly away. Hit to end credits, you heard it here firs.

[@Beeruspvm]

How did Jacen hear the lightsabers if it was all in Ahsoka's head?

[@krytykx2]

Force stuff

[@davidmcgaha7932]

Reasons

[@Chris-yz7cs]

Because Dave Feloni is a hack writer

[@Beeruspvm]

I hope, think, and want Anakin's appearance to be real and not in her head.

[@imillyrockonanyblock3280]

@@BeeruspvmI think it’s real and he’s in the world between worlds it only makes sense since in the cartoon he was destined to be the balance of the force the father

[@Macintosh1001]

She was blocking blaster fire with her arm, but when she uses a lightsaber it's inconceivable for Alex?

[@MJBfromCCC]

I think Sabine is being played pretty well. I’m rewatching rebels alongside this. Any time Sabine has any character development in it, she’s always resistant and closed off first, especially when she was training with the dark saber. And a lot of her decisions in Rebels were motivated out of her feelings for others, like destroying the protectors’ base after they almost killed Hera, instead of letting Kanan be a peacemaker. In this series, she’s been resistant to her Master, and her feelings for Ezra led her to put many lives in danger this time around. Honestly, I’m happy with how Sabine is being portrayed in this series, as it feels true to her Rebels character. But I will agree her reunion with Ezra was underwhelming.

[@HamsterXFiles]

Dude just stands there, why the hell they found him so quick?

[@Cinemagrins]

OK good post I posted how bad of an actress I thought she is but maybe you're right I just want her to not be closed off and embrace the moment, why can't a woman just run up to a man and hug him, is that really so anti-feminist? We are in an age of hate, before feminism was to allow women to love as they pleased, now they have to "respect themselves" well forget that.

[@lostscott9912]

OJ saw joes brainstorm starting to form and was like “whoa, ok Imma reel you in a little bit. You’re getting too creative. Your know they aren’t gunna do that.”

[@EPICJ0HN]

Angry Joe is in denial about Hollywood steroids lol. Superhero movies wouldn’t exist without them

[@matrixmdog]

I dont understand alex saying this should be called the sabine show because we had no ahsoka, we didnt get any sabine episode before this one either

[@Ahzumer]

10/10 is a wild score, 7/10 with non rebels fanboy glasses is probably more accurate

[@spacejesus570]

It's as if we have different opinions

[@Sixeye_]

I feel like every time I watch Star Wars now, there's a friendly animal they talk to like a pet.

[@HuntSD]

I really hope the major threat is Abeloth, its not gonna happen but holy shit imagine if it is.

[@747lch]

As a moderately casual fan, I couldn’t care less about Mando and even the callbacks to Anakin sprinkled throughout modern Star Wars. This episode was incredible, and I would love if they made films focused on Sabine, Thrawn, etc

[@mcbean1]

incredible, dude pick up your standards, poor characterisation, poor action, poor pacing, aside from visuals you've got nothing remedying.

[@SoldierSpiderx]

I wish I enjoyed it more, both Thrawn and Ezra felt unbelievably underwhelming. I just wish we got a reason to actually fear Thrawn. We should have seen the scale of his threat, why everyone keeps talking about how terrible it would be for him to return. I liked Ezra for the most part, but the script writing between him and Sabine was honestly horrific. They had the chemistry of a ham sandwich. I guess I just had higher hopes for both of these characters returns after so many years of build up, following their disappearance in rebels.

[@Automaton237]

You really think they're going to make thrawn show up and destroy the entire Republic in the first episode we just seen him he's not going to do a bunch of crazy stuff and he is still a big threat so far with the power of the nightsisters and how I tricked Sabine to help him find Ezra and kill him is pretty intelligent and it matches his personality pretty well even his way he walks around and his voice tone is perfect and it like on how the actor looks it's pretty realistic to what a old version of him would look like

[@andythai8676]

Don’t you remember what hera said “thrawns not like any other imperial. He killed my friends and family…” he’s “definitely” a threat to the galaxy

[@MrDeadmanwalking44]

Loved the episode, but Sabine finds Ezra in 5 minutes… Thrawn has a army and couldn’t find him the whole time they’ve been stuck on that planet?

[@lordcrayzar]

That Thrawn guy looks so godamn goofy.

[@mattwing311]

The witches were founded by an Exiled Jedi. I think They're going to explore the lore of this exiled jedi. "This Allya was a rogue Jedi, the Old Republic did not want to execute her, so the Jedi exiled her, hoping that given time she would turn away from the dark side." LUKE SKYWALKER Allya was a female Human rogue Jedi Knight of the Old Republic. She was expelled from the Jedi Order and exiled to a penal colony on Dathomir. Encountering the other former exiles, she used the planet's strong life energy to teach the colony's women to master the Force. These women became the Witches of Dathomir and Allya was their founder.

[@awesomeproductions7755]

*Joe:* _(gives something Star Wars from Disney a 10 / 10 or even has ONE good thing to say about the show)_ *Other Star Wars fans watching:* "Execute Order 66."

[@googleifyouseekayu]

Execute order 66 on these shill reviews! I stopped listening to these reviews after he was ok with the last Jedi then backtracked a few days later. Joe is just a shill now.

[@alexlyster3459]

I felt Ep 5 was visually stunning as well. At least on a nice OLED it was Also, the Night Troopers are more Japanese styled than Roman. All the gold used to fix cracks is a Japanese art known as Kintsugi. Mostly for pottery, but still.

[@bayushiteishiru6291]

Thrawn can't find Ezra hiding couple klicks away from his base for 10 years. Should have looked under a rock. 10/10

[@snarkamedes]

The Empire was permanently camped on the backwater planet of Tattooine for the entirety of Luke's youth and couldn't find Kenobi.

[@nerdock4747]

Oversimplification plus weeb username checks out.

[@osricen]

The poetry behind the kintsugi troopers (Night Troopers)... This show just keeps getting better and better. I'm loving every episode so far. I'm sure people who didn't watch The Clone Wars and Rebels are not enjoying the same, but this is supposed to be a sequel to that, so get yourself to work!

[@brmawe]

Come on! Really? Star Wars is back? Ahsoka brought star wars back? Ahsoka isn't horrible or anything like that but saying this saved SW giving it too much credit.

[@carlstanford7607]

Disney is simple. Baylan is just going to find a bigger bad guy with more power than the old emperor. There’s no interesting shades of grey. Emperor 2.0. That’s it

[@xredempx5037]

So this is something I noticed the 2nd time watching this episode. When the great mothers have the scene where they say it reeks like Jedi and restrain Sabine…. I think it wasn’t about Sabine….. think about it. Sabine isn’t a Jedi and the only Jedi actually there is baylan “former Jedi” Then of course with baylans alternative plans compared to Thrawns and when Sabine is being hauled off they zoom is on baylan and he almost looks nervous for once. Fast forward to the next scene with thrawn arrival when he says “general baylan of the Jedi order” the great mothers then look up surprised. I think there’s a few twists coming our way