Ahsoka Pitch Meeting

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Disney continues to pump out content onto Disney Plus after massive investments into making Star Wars and Marvel streaming series a thing. They are now… a thing. Ahsoka starring Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka Tano has now been released, and it exists!
Ahsoka definitely raises some questions. Like are lightsabers even dangerous anymore? Does everyone just have a bunch of force powers? Is Thrawn really a tactical genius? What was the point of this being eight episodes?
To answer all these questions, check out the pitch meeting that led to Ahsoka!
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[@KR-nm6jw]

I love how Ryan can destroy a show by simply describing what happens.

[@dlb3890]

The writing destroyed the show

[@gabe1298]

I don't. It makes me really sad actually.

[@frocat5163]

@@dlb3890 Yeah... D. Baloney didn't need Ryan's help destroying this show. As Obi-Wan said, "You have done that yourself, Baloney."

[@colester167]

Giving no conclusion at all and Sabine go from not being able to use the force to being a expert and throwing someone into a ship.. I enjoyed it enough until that finale.. Dang.

[@Aldrea333]

@@colester167 It's sad that Disney has changed the Force from a rare skill that takes time to master and become proficient with into a skill everyone is instantly good at if they just believe in it enough.

[@NASkeywest]

“It’s better to live, than to die.” Is the peak Disney writing we need

[@samblack5313]

A stone looks down, and sinks…. or something

[@Spencerdoken]

Honestly in 2023 maybe that's not a bad thing to remind people of 😂

[@milordo]

​@samblack5313 but boats look up (I decided which ways boats "look") and because of that they..fly or something? Idk I'm waiting for the books to come out

[@elliottpilton8577]

"Somehow .... Sabine survived"

[@carbonjustin]

I see it as an insult to the fans, they are saying "no matter how bad we make this franchise you will still watch it"

[@SdeHe-qb9gc]

"Tickled by a lightsaber" is the best way to describe a lightsaber fight made by Disney

[@SeanTanktop]

Maul was cut in half

[@andalynntracy757]

Qui gon in force ghost heaven like 🙄😢

[@Kiljaedenas]

What, it's only several-thousand-degree plasma flash frying your internal organs, and from that angle also your spinal cord. Walk it off you pussy.

[@thecrimsonfire4921]

@@SeanTanktopand is also a Sith apprentice who can use his anger to stay alive, and also went batshit insane. Meanwhile the grand inquisitor who is nowhere near as strong as Maul survives being stabbed with literally no consequences. Same with Sabine

[@oldknowledge64]

Definitely better than the light saber fights in the original trilogy. Those were like toddlers playing power rangers 😂😂. think you're confusing Disney with those😅.

[@NealX_Gaming]

I always enjoy how lightsaber stabbings somehow never turn into full-on dismemberings even though dragging a lightsaber through someone's body is super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@nicholaskinkaid]

The funniest part is that it is so ridiculously easy that the famous "super easy, barely an inconvenience" isn't even accurate because there is zero inconvenience. Seriously, just stay in place and do nothing. The other person will dismember themselves while collapsing.

[@bob-zi1eb]

Ratings. Disney in reality is not going to release an R rated show or movie. Especially for a franchise like star wars which has broad appeal.

[@fivebrosstopmos]

​@@bob-zi1ebBurning people, beheading, and child murder got PG-13.

[@troubblegum]

full-on dismemberings are tight!

[@-Siculus-Hort-]

getting stabbed with a light saber would cause a person to explode...it's hot enough to melt through blast shields.

[@SteveClark1412]

Long live Producer Guy and Writer Guy, who are of course two distinct people

[@monishalur6563]

you can see both have differnt hairstyles

[@user-pr8ke5pp6v]

I have a bad face recognition skills so I really thought these were 2 different people for a while😂

[@philkugler2429]

It's Ryan and George

[@TheGandorX]

Proving that is super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@Onmur]

I mean, of course they are. Why would you even say that?

[@Zukanoff]

“What else?” “Not much.” Sums it up perfectly right there.

[@arjunholmie]

Ahsoka has been the most pointless and disappointing character in the live action universe. That's why she doesn't have an arc in her own TV show

[@th0har]

The dedication of Ryan for cutting and regrowing his hair between each line is impressive.

[@lsporter88]

😂😂.

[@rogierb5945]

As a bald guy I can only ask: 'is it possible to learn this power?'

[@6tiple6ix6afia]

Not from a bald guy...

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

His hair works like a Play-Doh kit.

[@trashboat115]

​@@rogierb5945☠️

[@lukesmith8279]

When he said "who's this Tibia person that attacked Sabine" XD had me on the floor😂

[@hunterscott-thomas1510]

I do not get that joke at skl

[@daryllhewitt6603]

​@@hunterscott-thomas1510Tibia is a bone on your leg. Like shin (the girls name)

[@acerimmer8338]

@@hunterscott-thomas1510 Tibia is the shin bone's proper name. Shin is the characters name.

[@TimeBucks]

The entire thing is pure gold.

[@PriscaOnyenwere]

Perfect one

[@zubairmunir7466]

👍

[@timewarpdrive77]

Unlike ahsoka... AMIRITE?

[@faisalmalik037]

Amezing❤❤

[@shafiqrehman6100]

👍

[@Irgendwas_geistreiches]

Watching the pitch meeting instead of the actual show is tight!!!

[@dennator4395]

It sure is!

[@friedrichpierce6569]

This 👆- 100% of this!

[@Metallic-Sun]

He covered the whole season in 6 minutes

[@Temudhun]

Does anyone watch those series anymore aside from the people who do video about them?

[@EvaOwnsAll]

I think he actually crammed more story in than the season did :x.

[@Runner2000]

I love the almost-laugh when describing Ahsoka getting out of the ship to swipe at the pew-pews. 😂

[@Kiljaedenas]

Yeah...a point so dumb even Ryan can't help but break character just describing what happens...

[@brianalambert1192]

Can we just acknowledge the biggest crime of this show? If you take Ahsoka out of this story, not that much changes. Thrawns robots would have still found the map. They probably would have figured out how to open it. And they would have got him back at which point the Republic would have pulled their heads out of the sand and acknowledged he's returned. The only difference is Ezra who seems like he could have easily stowed away on the ship on the way back and who admittedly is going to give the Republic a heads up that Thrawns' back. Which given their track record, the Republic still won't believe it.. And even if we acknowledge that Ezra coming back is because of Ahsoka's actions, it's more because of Sabine's actions. I cannot believe I predicted this was going to happen when they announced this show two years ago. If a show is named after a specific character in Star Wars, that is now a dead guarantee that the show won't actually be about them

[@northlibertycommunitychurc4238]

I never thought about that...yeah, the whole thing really didn't need to happen

[@pochaze671]

What if... they made a show called 'Disney'? Could that erase that disgrace to the entertainment industry, that hydra studio has become?

[@sgray001]

The Ashoka show is a perfect example of; "Characters are only as smart as the person writing them."

[@taste_is_sweet]

There is actually a TV Trope about that. I think it's called "Passing around the idiot ball." But basically it's that the characters can only be as smart as the writers need them to be for the plot.

[@RictusHolloweye]

Aptly demonstrated by the way Tyrion Lannister became less clever when GoT got past the books and into unchartered territory.

[@Kryxx07]

@@RictusHolloweye Tyrion and Varys turning into complete idiots was so tragic and painful to watch.

[@boobah5643]

@@taste_is_sweetThe Idiot Ball is when characters suddenly get stupid (sometimes with good reason!) so the plot can happen. It's a different thing than everybody constantly being a moron because the writers themselves are too stupid to notice. Or think the audience is too stupid to notice and just don't care; dealer's choice.

[@peteface24]

To be fair Thrawn was well written as smart in this show, in a way that was as good as the books.

[@Andythedrew1]

I’ve yet to see any Marvel or Star Wars shows, but I have seen every pitch meeting, so I feel up to date.

[@davidmpyane2270]

😳wow really, that's cool

[@gregbors8364]

That’s a wise decision. There have been literally thousands of better films and TV shows that have been produced over the past century. You’re better off spending your time watching those

[@wyrlismike]

Same here

[@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369]

Id give Andor a watch id say its worth it but yeah the rest isnt much

[@skyhunter2816]

​@@gregbors8364Only recently. Before Disney acquired Marvel and Star Wars (especially Star Wars), they where peak cinema. Andor is excellent though.

[@RichardTLDR]

'Bad guys love having secret maps that lead to them.' LMAO

[@craig1538]

I want Ryan to keep producing this stuff forever. It really cheers me up after a hard day at work. He's comedy gold.

[@felixcote1697]

Suprised he didn't talk about the crab people having 3x more screentime than both the main villains combined in the finale

[@brianpowell6124]

I dubbed them the E-Rocks... after a buddy of mine said it was the series ewok wanna bees...

[@xc43t]

They needed to focus on the merchandise.

[@marcinkrz3140]

Crab people, crab people.

[@justinrodriguez5957]

To quote: Merch!

[@ianraguse6455]

Probably cuz that is not true

[@jeffgoode9865]

I like how Ryan seemed to legitimately have trouble keeping a straight face while describing Ahsoka fight ships.

[@sandeepfrancis3568]

They are testing how much stupid they can get away with

[@FaceFamous]

​@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist5yea whatever😂

[@joctuas6033]

Very glad he called out Sabine betraying the entire galaxy just for a guy. Not a guy with potential like Anakin, just a guy. Who looks like he could be a barista

[@draw2death421]

Yeah. Not even like a lover like someting (even then it whould be ridiculous) just a friend thats it.

[@king_supreme1102]

@@draw2death421Well, she did love Ezra, just not that way.

[@Novictus]

​@@king_supreme1102You wouldn't know that watching this show

[@jeffreyhailey2941]

Do they even like each other? I couldn't tell🤷‍♂️

[@eugenefrolov1396]

In the end of the Rebels Ezra asked Sabine to find him

[@napoleonkill]

This is so much more entertaining than the actual show

[@emirozdemir-wallywest1426]

2:27 "She learns is better to live than to die, She didn't already know that? Apparently not." This is GOLD!!

[@yamato0965]

"People die if they are killed!"

[@richmcgee434]

When it comes right down to it, there's zero empirical evidence that life is better than death. We're just making assumptions and running on inertia. No one's actually come back with a first hand report on the subject after all - and no, a few moments of technical brain death doesn't qualify. What kind of basis for judgement would that be? Your first few seconds of independent life after you're a womb-parasite aren't typical of the rest of your life either, especially if some random stranger immediately starts slapping you around to remind you to breathe like an old Warner Brothers cartoon. Plenty of religions claim that if you do what they tell you dying is definitely where you get to the good part, even. Funny how none of their leaders offer to go first and talk about speeding up the queue for everyone else.

[@Alec0124]

Yep! Sums up how I felt after that event. I was like... what did she overcome exactly? Her master being evil I guess?

[@yamato0965]

@@Alec0124 Her habit of calling her Master silly nicknames?

[@the_competent_gamer9454]

Sums up Marvel, Star Wars and all of the CW shows: People learning lessons they 1000% already learned

[@GoatHam]

Yet another show/movie where I’m far more hyped for the pitch meeting than the actual show/movie

[@emorsi]

At this point I am not even consider to watch the show. I just turn to the Pitch Meeting and, voila, another garbage show avoided.

[@biggussdickuss6123]

To true

[@skylanderlego4163]

​@@emorsiWatching pitch meeting instead of the actual show is tight.

[@rabidsquirrel2168]

I started watching the show.. and thought I would have to watch it through it for continuity.. but then I remembered this channel and now I get the important stuff without the suffering. You're a godsend, sir!

[@b.w.9816]

Between Ryan George and The Critical Drinker I have been saved from wasting a lot of time watching pure trash. :)

[@Cthulhu_451]

So I grew up with the prequel movies which I enjoyed as a kid but then swiftly forgot about as I got older. Then I stumbled across Clone Wars when it was on Netflix years ago and it completely changed how I felt about these characters. Anakin is actually incredibly likeable and you get to see more of a gradual progression towards his fall to dark side compared to the whiplash we get in the movies (RIP Jedi kiddies). In Clone Wars the emotional pay-offs are so well done in comparison to the movies. I balled my eyes out watching that final episode and a number of times throughout the show... Never cried or cared much about anything during the movies (sorry Jedi kiddies). Ultimately Clone Wars is about Ahsoka's journey though and despite initial impressions of her in the earlier episodes, she gradually grew to become one of my favorite Star Wars characters ever... Eh yeah, so that's over now. Thanks Disney. Nah I'm kidding, I'm just gonna pretend this Ahsoka series doesn't exist. It's actually pretty easy to do, I've been pretending that 'check engine' light in my car doesn't exist for ages now. It's been working out just fine for me so far 🤪

[@JacobL228]

Yeah, Ahsoka's still annoying, yet reliable, Ezra's still somewhere in uncharted space, and Sabine still has at least one flaw. This embarrassment never happened.

[@Hanoua2]

for me she tragically died when she fought Vader. Ezra didn't grabbed her through a portal from the future XD

[@peteschaub7561]

If you put duct tape over the check engine light its almost like it doesn't exist. 👍

[@bluedistortions]

The first three Star Wars films were great, because George Lucas wasn't a control freak and listened to other ideas. He primarily was concerned with getting the special effects right, including the sounds, which is where he was revolutionary. But he didn't write the plot or script, and his first wife came up with the final edit. With the prequels, he assumed full creative control, and he kinda sucked at it. But with the extended universe stuff, once again it shined, because he allowed creative freedom; the clone wars show and Knights of the Old Republic are great examples. Unfortunately, it seems Disney executives are far more control hungry and generally incompetent than George Lucas ever was. A huge shock to those of us who were critical of the way George had handled the prequels. I can't help but wonder if he sold to the worst people as revenge for those who criticised his previous work.

[@JacobL228]

@@bluedistortions No, he had everything worked out and the Disney execs promised to follow his vision, then they threw his script in the trash after he signed the papers.

[@bottomfeeder7924]

‘She learns it’s better to live than to die.’ ‘Did she not know that?’ 😂

[@mikek9297]

"Apparently not"

[@LadyDoomsinger]

To be fair, how can you know, until you've tried both?

[@king_supreme1102]

The show was unclear on the lesson but I think people are purposefully being dense about this. He’s not telling her it’s better to live, it’s not like she’s choosing to not live. He’s making her fight for her life internally. She’s literally unconscious and drowning. He’s showing her how to survive.

[@Novictus]

​@@king_supreme1102Now tell me was Anakin a force ghost? Was this some kinda dimension between dimensions? Was this some weird time dilation realm? Was it all in her head? Was it worth answering these questions for future projects? Should we care at all since the rest of this show drags on and does nothing but set up stuff for season 2?

[@neomoscoso10]

*Sabine gets impaled by a lightsaber* _Sabine: 'Tis but a flesh wound!_

[@vindex7309]

Admiral Thrawn, quite honestly the greatest tactician the galaxy has ever seen. Not like you’d pick up on that watching Ahsoka. Damn shame they turned him into blue Elon Musk.

[@eliwilson1146]

That Thrawn Trilogy in the 90s meant a lot to me. Seeing him gave me a moment of excitement, but then I realized that this was just more "Rebels" and that he wasn't going to be interesting or effective at all. Canceled D+ pretty much because of that. They really couldn't care less about the property.

[@king_supreme1102]

@@eliwilson1146Filoni certainly cares about the property. But Disney is too busy setting up an MCU style connected universe to get the little things right.

[@eliwilson1146]

@king_supreme1102 Hmm. I guess I agree with that, yeah. DY is a corporate hellscape sometimes. Do you think Feloni is a skilled director for live action, though?

[@RadioDanoo]

I can't even bring myself to watch it. He is probably my favorite character in the Star Wars Universe

[@shok24199]

I couldn't tell whether Thrawn was an idiot on purpose or if Feloni actually thought that was brilliant military strategy.

[@ValcryeTheSecond]

I wish there was one of these for Andor, just like a mostly-positive pitch meeting

[@jonathandiosa5739]

There are some excellent Andor videos here on yt. They explain things one would hardly even notice. Everything in Andor from the dialogue to the stage decor was placed with intention. They have videos showing contrasts of the way characters stand to the placement of objects which are easter eggs for hardcore fans.

[@philippeamon7271]

Just imagine Producer Guy's rapidly escalating depression...

[@arjunholmie]

Not cliche enough It's well thought and not a mind numbing action filler show

[@HugeRidiculous]

The "zombie stormtroopers being more terrible than regular terrible stormtrooper" line had me dying.

[@doofus0123]

They're more like a roadblock. Lol!!

[@mordredpendragon1235]

They really were

[@milordo]

​@doofus0123 more like a speed bump really

[@celiadevault1066]

Haha

[@milordo]

@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist5 no

[@TalesofStories]

You forgot to mention that after finding Thrawn, Ahsoka doesn't seem to care about him getting away again... It's like she was just needed to check it off the bucket list.

[@88porpoise]

That does kind of make sense, as everyone else was saying she never cared about Thrawn except as an excuse to get to Ezra. Of course that interpretation has its own big issues.

[@KevinBrian]

One of the major problems with this show is that most of the main characters don't seem to give a shit about anything so there are no stakes. Ahsoka is nonplussed about Thrawn getting away. Sabine is stabbed by a lightsaber but no big deal. No consequences. She finds Ezra and it's like, "Yo, what up?" If the characters don't care then we're not going to care as an audience.

[@TalesofStories]

@@KevinBrian Yea, the lack of urgency was really off putting.

[@ForNoOne1]

@@TalesofStories Seriously. If the characters don't seem to care that much, why should we?

[@memento81]

what really infuriated me was when Ahsoka in the very last episode turns to Sabine and says "You did good". What. The. F***? Its like the characters have reached some kind of awareness of their infinite plot armor and therefore act extra careless and casual with unleashing absolutely massive threats to the galaxy, because in the end it will all work out somehow. Nothing matters, when they are stuck in a story dead end somehow, the bad writers will just spawn random space whales or some other deus ex machina shit. It is all a big cartoon now. I think after Andor S2 I will be done with Star Wars untill they throw out that hack writer Filoni

[@michalstawicki1673]

"Stopping a fart is tight" Lol, one of the best usage of the catchphrase! 😂

[@mmobhm2059]

He literally said that line just as I laid eyes on your comment Spooky eh 😂

[@aidanthornton173]

I love the fact that Sabine and Ezra are surrounded by Stormtroopers. Shin Hatti orders the troopers to kill the two. Ezra then put his hands up and shouts *"Wait, let's talk"* *And the Troopers actually hold their fire!?* Shin Hatti literally has to order them a second time to kill them before they actually start shooting.

[@Bustermachine]

My theory is that a lot of the weird decisions, especially in Filoni helmed shows, comes down to his history in the animated Star Wars tv series where there was a little (or a lot) more leeway for silliness and where outsized characters expressions could convey moods far more effectively than live actors. I see a lot of the DNA of Rebels and Clone Wars in the Disney Live Actions shows . . . but what works in a fairly low deaf 22 minute episodic adventure, feels very underwhelming in a prestige streaming series.

[@aidanthornton173]

@@Bustermachine I can understand that in a cartoon completely, but in a live action setting it makes everyone look stupid. Much like the scene where ahsoka knows that sabine and ezra are in trouble, spots Balen standing all alone, minding his own business. Then jumps down in front of him, starts a small duel, only to tell him that she doesn't have time to deal with him. Ahsoka, if you don't have time to deal with him, why the hell did you go out of your way to fight him when you knew from the start that your friends were in trouble!?

[@patpowers9210]

Fun pitch meeting, but Ryan missed one trick, which is pointing out that Sabine's light sword stabbing was barely an inconvenience, but Morgana's light sword stabbing killed her dead on the spot.

[@cupofqwarffee4802]

This occurred to me too. Maybe she was wearing plot armour.

[@swimmingmide]

Morgana was double light sword slashed in the belly, much worse than poked in the belly. Then there was the time Maul was cut in half and fell into the core of a planet and got robot legs as a reward.

[@KamektheMagikoopa1]

Morgan was slashed across the abdomen with a lightsaber and another magic sword. Apparently, slashing is immediately lethal, but stabbing is only a mild inconvenience.

[@thomasbailey921]

​@@swimmingmide"poked in the belly" is a funny way of saying being cooked alive at thousands of degrees. Also, Maul shouldve stayed dead, so thats not exactly the good point you think it js.

[@joshcasticshow]

@@KamektheMagikoopa1, lightsabers cauterizes wound they make, so being stab in stomach is just very painful. It wouldn’t be deadly for regular sword if you get treated write away because the only reason you would die is bleeding to death, which doesn’t happen with lightsaber.

[@youknowwhoiam2771]

Let’s not forget that there was another entire series where Sabine was one of the main characters and it was not once hinted that she was Force-Sensitive whatsoever

[@tranquilthoughts7233]

But don't you remember? The force in Disney wars is with EVERYONE! EVERYBODY can become a jedi if they just wish hard enough to a star (possibly a death star).

[@thatHARVguy]

@@tranquilthoughts7233 And the women are twice as powerful, because the Force is female.

[@markloertscher1022]

She wielded the dark saber, so she had to be at least force sensitive to do… if you believe the Star Wars lore. Let’s face it the force is midichlorians and they’re fickle at best.

[@FulminicMantra]

@@markloertscher1022 That means nothing. Lots of people have wielded the dark saber in lore and almost none of them were force sensitive. Anyone can pick up and turn on any lightsaber. This is just some more inexplicable Mary Sue Disney bullshit.

[@Biscuits645]

Not only was it not hinted but kanen specifically said that she was NOT force sensitive and thus could not train with a lightsaber. The Ahsoka show really has outstanding writing...

[@Nobody-df4is]

Oh noos, another masterpiece I've missed. How can I miss these awesome shows?

[@GZilla311]

Very easy. Barely an inconvenience.

[@dog3y3]

My god, how do you keep such a positive sound in your voice while going through all that sarcasm? I'd be rolling on the floor the whole time. I'd never get anything filmed.

[@Briansgate]

1:50 Even scriptwriter guy can't help but laugh at how ridiculous it was for Ahsoka to get out of the ship.

[@Ruzzky_Bly4t]

@@esuomi When in clone wars did somebody get out of their ship and cut a fighter in half while making a cartwheel in outer space?

[@SirsasthNigam.]

@@esuominot Sequel trilogy

[@DrMcFly28]

"Look people, we've had so much of hand-to-hand and ship-to-ship combat, we really need to shake things up, do something fresh. Any ideas?" "How about.... hand-to-ship combat?" "AWESOME!"

[@talesfromthehoodtv503]

​@@esuomijust cause it was in a cartoon doesn't mean it will translate to live action,it looked very stupid and comical

[@talesfromthehoodtv503]

​@@DrMcFly28😂😂😂

[@Browalker15]

“She is just immediately that good at using the force?” “Yes.” “Well okay then!” 😁 Perfectly sums up that moment.

[@fredrickgarrettsr2632]

Reminds me of someone else😮 Rey Skywalker 🤯

[@MN-vz8qm]

Well since Rey nothing surprises me anymore.

[@JonS]

Same as Rey. In Disney Star Wars, all you need to do is believe in yourself. Training and dedication are nothing. This was also true for Obi-Wan. He was rusty at using The Force (strange given that he knew he needed to protect young Luke), but once he believed in himself, it all came flooding back.

[@baraodascolinas979]

@@fredrickgarrettsr2632*Rey Palpatine, she usurped the sky walker name after kissing the last one left alive.

[@thorsday121]

Ryan forgot the fact that she showed absolutely no signs of being able to use the Force in her entire original show, despite training in lightsaber combat with her surrogate father that she knew for years. He just somehow never picked up on it lmao.

[@Colinkrauss1]

2:01 It’s hilarious how this happens in so many movies/shows. That’s like having a professional marksman with a Barrett .50 Cal dangling on a rope ladder attached to a helicopter above and then just swinging him right at an enemy

[@GZilla311]

If you mean from Ahsoka's POV, at least a .50 Cal would be a ranged weapon, so it’s slightly more plausible that she would be a danger to them at range, meaning coming in close would be less likely anyway.

[@Colinkrauss1]

No I mean a guy with a weapon meant for long range warfare who is chilling at the bottom of a rope ladder attached to a helicopter, then the helicopter flies close to the ground toward a guy with a shotgun so that the dude with a sniper rifle sitting on the rope ladder enters point blank range combat with a dude with a shotgun. They’re using the long range marksman on the ladder sort of like a wrecking ball or a ball-and-chain flail.

[@ZefDavenport]

I love how you speedrun the whole series until Ezra happens, because nothing happens until he shows up.

[@Bustermachine]

It's because Disney Star Wars' actual problem is not 'wokeness', or what not, it's the fact that it's powered almost purely by callbacks. Almost everything about Disney Star Wars is founded in sapping meaning from previous Star Wars installments. Much as the Disney Live Action remakes are built on sapping meaning from the animated classics. Everything about Ahsoka is about waving the payoff in everyone's face, and then bum rushing for that pay off through a series of big shiny action set pieces.

[@jlighter1]

@Bustermachine Really this. It’s not just Disney, either, it’s all the major production companies with the “Let’s try to make this happen again, it clearly makes money” while pointing at something that worked 30, 20, even 5 years ago. To much risk aversion, too much nostalgia fishing, too many callbacks, too little freedom to fail. And to be clear, a lot of this (my perspective at least) comes from the producer levels focusing on bottom line and red/black ink overriding or negatively shaping the other levels where the creativity is happening. Not exclusively, but “Think of the shareholders” is what’s driving quality down.

[@ZefDavenport]

@@jlighter1 I think this comes from the disaster that was "Treasure Planet", despite being a masterpiece of a movie, it was ahead of its time. Now Disney is like "Nah, lets keep it safe". Just look at Wish to see that statement in motion.

[@Novictus]

@@Bustermachine I figured its problem was corporate overhead making everything they make gray sludge.

[@skowollon84]

Hands down. Disneys whole strategy is solely done to provide enough content for years of pitch meetings to come. I appreciate that

[@thanhnguyen-rs5it]

zzz

[@elcringedad]

this show is hands down more entertaining than anything out of Disney Star Wars!

[@seanmadson8524]

I honestly believe Disney is addicted to hate-baiting people into watching deliberately bad media. It just feels too consistent, their response to pushback is to double down as if the pushback is the point

[@iWubmusic]

except the OG MCU movies which were amazing

[@seanmadson8524]

@@iWubmusic There were many good movies made by Disney in the past. They might even make some in the future. Nobody is saying they never made good movies, just that the general quality of their movies has decreased drastically over the last 5-10 years (the beginning of the badness might go further back, but that's around when it got significant). OG MCU movies started a whole franchise because the first few were so well received. The whole world got interested in comic book characters, something that was once a semi shameful thing to admit liking when speaking with non-nerds. It's sad to see it all go down the drain, but at least we can still watch those golden oldies

[@Terrezio]

Can we just appreciate Ryan getting a haircut after recording Screenwriter Guy's lines and before recording Producer Guy's lines.

[@theLikou1]

Who is Ryan? These are two different people.

[@UncleAir]

I was JUST going to say, that is commitment lol.

[@gregmanca1474]

Lol I noticed that too😊

[@MGD313]

Buzzing the hair on the side of your head is TIGHT!

[@ronnietexan]

@@theLikou1 Ryan and George are the two actors who play the parts of screenwriter and producer guy. They both have several brothers who also play various parts in the Ryanverse. Rumour has it they are from a small village in Canada, very close to a nuclear processing plant. source; Ryanpedia, a full and wholey apocryphal history of Ryan and George.

[@BrettCaton]

People keep forgetting - lightsabers are only dangerous if you have an allergy to them. Just carry antihistamines, works a treat. The bearded actor had a lot of positive comments even from critics - and then he dies in real life. We just can't have nice things, I guess.

[@Scoley01]

Ryan, I was expecting at the end the producer would say “Wow, wow, wow that sounds like a great FIRST episode” bc the show only had about one episodes worth of story and they stretched it out to a season.

[@Yorha_Unit_2B_]

This was less of a pitch meeting and more of a summary. Way too accurate 😂

[@whwhywhywhywhywhywhy]

Thats what these pitch meetings always are 🤨

[@Yorha_Unit_2B_]

@@whwhywhywhywhywhywhy I know but this one was super spot on

[@lajeandom]

it was brutal from start to finish hahaha

[@user-mz2ne4yh2t]

They always are a summary that point all the silly and nonsensical plot points of a show/movie, are you new? 😂

[@Yorha_Unit_2B_]

@@user-mz2ne4yh2t no I’m not, I just really liked this one above all.

[@alexthomson6430]

no one questioning this woman that endangered the entire galaxy for one dude she doesn't even break down or hug or say how much she missed is nuts. Gotta be a strong woman. No emotions allowed here, no sir

[@tonyfondacaro1980]

Strong women bury their emotions like real men 👍🏻

[@christopherhahn8247]

Yep. She lived in Ezra's old home and liked to play recordings of him giving the impression that she was in love with him but nope.

[@Fangtorn]

Also, she sold the galaxy out to the man she believed just killed Ahsoka literally seconds before, doesn't appear to grieve Ahsoka's death in anyway, and only seems mildly pleased at best when Ahsoka isn't dead.

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

@@christopherhahn8247pretty sure he was a minor when she knew him. Besides, everyone knows Ahsoka is with Lux, and that I’m not hard coping

[@michaelball93]

And don't forget all the crossed arms.

[@kanesoban]

The map-ball looks a bit like the 'lament configuration' from Hellraiser. When they started fiddling with it I was waiting for Pinhead to pop out.

[@bloodrunsclear]

‘And the best beard in the galaxy!’ RIP Ray Stevenson

[@timchristensen2522]

THIRTEEEEN

[@aldoreyvalderrama]

“She’s just immediately that good at using the Force?” “YES.” 😂

[@phousefilms]

She must have Rey genes.

[@RCTPatriot75]

Well, the force IS female after all.

[@teslaromans1023]

Didn’t you know ? The more we progress in this industrial churning out of content the easier it is to learn Force powers !!

[@YourResidentPersonWhoDoesStuff]

It’s obviously sexist against women if we make them struggle to obtain something

[@luminaratano3935]

Disney's logic is: All you need to do to be able to use the Force is just to BELIEVE IN YOURSELF, lmao. No training, no the Force sensitivity.... NO. A good affirmation is all you need! 🤣 Apparently, the Force/ Jedi/ Sith are not that special anymore... 😔

[@Hellgrinde]

“And then she realizes its a good thing to be alive and now dresses in light clothes instead of dark clothes” Oh doing a gandalf is TIGHT!

[@marcus1333]

She probably knew she was going to this desolate place with this big black tower and these big statues.

[@sabersight908]

i truly just dont understand anymore how these pitch meetings are even possible in real life, these videos reminds me that these conversations partially ACTUALLY happened xD

[@lazyviolinist3418]

You should do an Andor Pitch meeting. I can already see how the intro will go. Producer guy: So you have another starwars show for me? Writer guy: Yes, sir I do. I thought we could make a spin off show about Andor ya know that side character from a spin off movie that was based off a single line of text from the original trilogy Producer guy: That seems very specific is anyone going to want to watch a show about a character barely anyone has heard of? Writer guy: Yeah well I thought we could actually make this the best starwars media Disney has made. Producer guy: Oh how do you plan on doing that? Writer guy: I learned how to write higher than a 5hth grade level. That'll do it.

[@ethanhawkins3391]

Tickled by a lightsaber is a brilliant way to describe just how far such a sacred, mystical weapon has fallen

[@ItsMrAssholeToYou]

Yeah, the only thing they're good for now is to use as helicopters.

[@TomCruz54321]

Dear Hollywood Writers, if you want your characters to live, don't give them mortal wounds. You think it makes the audience scared for the character but it's the opposite, we see the plot armor and we just laugh at the writing.

[@metheus108]

Lucas turned the Force into bacteria and then Disney turned hyperdrive into a super powerful weapon and lightsabers into sparkly tickleswords. The mythos and the physics of the Star Wars universe have been broken repeatedly, not for the better.

[@MrJoshcc600]

Legit the least dangerous thing in star wars now

[@Einlanzer83]

@@metheus108 Lucas didn't turn the force into bacteria

[@TheJotaroKujo]

The fact that someone can survive a lightsaber stabbing is already ridiculous enough, but Disney is going out of its way to make it happen in every single new Star Wars thing and that just leaves me speechless.

[@VoidMaid]

Seeing as how Book of Boba Fett didn’t do so well maybe people would like a new Jango Fett series instead? Sure, he was decapitated in Clone Wars, but he was decapitated with LIGHTSABER. How deadly could that really be?

[@Hanoua2]

@@VoidMaid They gonna say he actually survived getting his head chop off and bring him back XD

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

@@VoidMaidHe was decapitated in "Attack of the Clones"

[@VoidMaid]

🛒@@judeconnor-macintyre9874

[@samblack5313]

@judeconnor-macintyre9874 Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t that movie specifically covering the clone wars!?

[@gorasul12]

So much better then watching the actual show 🤣

[@TheReaperofHades]

Ahsoka: Ahsoka? Yes... that was what they used to call me. Ahsoka the Grey. That was my name. Ahsoka: I am Ahsoka the White. And I come back to you now - at the turn of the tide.

[@TheMysticCastle42]

That Shin/Tibia joke was way funnier than it had any right to be. Well done.

[@awwhellfreewayy4537]

I chuckled 😊

[@feynstein1004]

Oh human anatomy is tight!

[@Handygramps]

I was surprised I never made the connection until he said it

[@Saimeren]

"Tibia lady" had me laughing a lot harder than it probably should have. It's the simple things.

[@hoagie911]

I don't get it 😕

[@kambrieearl4299]

Her name is Shin. Tibia is a leg bone

[@DanDoesStuffs]

​@@Warriorcats64my eyes rolled back into my skull by the end of your comment. Well done.

[@stevene6482]

I was going to give some love to Tibia/Shin too.

[@BryceRogers_]

I can't believe Writer Guy never mentioned the fact that Tibia Lady did not blink once in the whole series

[@praiseit4805]

I love the small break at 1:53 After all the ridiculous shit ryan has had to describe through the years Ahsoka fighting ships in space with her lightsaber takes the cake

[@ikechukwuiweha1296]

Excellent Ryan as always, even up to the outro. Covered all the major flaws right down to the summary of the series at the end

[@grantwinney]

I can't believe Ryan kept cutting his hair and growing it back out between filming each side. He must've started this pitch before Ahsoka was even announced! A true visionary. 🤯

[@josharchibald4637]

'Work harder not smarter'. Lol

[@spacelem]

I couldn't not see that!

[@ChickenOfMajesty]

I swear, I suggested this idea in his comments on a recent video!

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

@@ChickenOfMajesty"Well okay then!"

[@karlismymiddlename]

? They’re 2 different people

[@Vegbuh]

Thank you for calling out the arm-crossing. It really bothered me, too much really, that Ahsoka is standing around all smug like for almost the ENTIRE series!

[@JacobL228]

And she honestly had nothing to be smug about. That's just how she was in The Clone Wars, so they copied that for nostalgia's sake.

[@fandomking8939]

​@@JacobL228in the beginning of Clone Wars to.

[@shawnsanders9450]

She really was like that in the cartoon but maybe you leave it out because yeah I don't know because it's a freaking CARTOON!

[@JacobL228]

@@shawnsanders9450 No, it's because she was a kid then, and most kids act like that. Acting the same as an adult is just dumb.

[@Undomaranel]

IKR? It's almost like they didn't realize the reason we all liked Ahsoka in the first place was because she grew up and had character development... but hey, when has a 50 something been cringe for acting like a teen? I mean, Tsunade was 50 something but actively made herself look and act like a drunk 29 year old...

[@chamberlainmiller2991]

Actually liked the show a lot, but hilariously fair criticisms as always 😂

[@AllenKey19]

Love how Ryan starts the video with 'SPOILERS AHEAD' like there was any risk of us watching the show

[@mikey5396]

You could totally hear Ryan laughing when he describes how Ahsoka fights ships in space.

[@lavendersky5903]

I loved it!! It was like when people break on SNL!! Sometimes funnier than the joke 😂😂😂😂

[@tritamtran7264]

ok

[@king_supreme1102]

Yeah it’s totally like those silly moments in those AWFUL animated shows. Oh wait, those shows are good 🤔. It’s almost as if we pick and choose when we like goofy Star Wars and when it’s beneath us, based on whether we’re supposed to like or hate the show.

[@lordilluminati5836]

​@@king_supreme1102you can have goofy in starwars but it has to be earned. Starkiller bringing down a star destroyed from orbit was even more far fetched but it came at a climax and had an entire game of buildup

[@king_supreme1102]

@@lordilluminati5836 I think you’re confusing goofy with unbelievable. You don’t really earn goofy, it’s either part of the tone or it isn’t.

[@nOT_sURE08]

A "plop" is a VERY accurate description of Disney+ content.

[@barfo281]

like Anything George Lucas made after Return of the Jedi was great. (None of it was).

[@nitrokid]

Master Qui-Gon might have some disagreement with the lethality (or rather, non-lethality) of a lightsaber to the chest.

[@MrDoenyon]

fun fact, it's actually a pretty big deal that you just can't go to other galaxies in the star wars universe. It was attempted once (though disney made it non cannon as it's from EU novels) by a bunch of jedis in a ship made for that, and well, let's just say they never managed to even leave. So being "stuck in another galaxy" is quite the fun thing.

[@earlsmith7428]

Love that line, "all the stormtroopers forget that they're holding guns." It's my favorite quote in this whole pitch meeting. Does it capture anybody else's fancy?

[@thatHARVguy]

So they went full CW? "We're an army carrying guns fighting one person with a stick. Let's drop our guns and fight within stick distance."

[@khaotika943]

@@thatHARVguy Even worse. During the final showdown between Ahsoka and Morgan, the troopers just stopped fighting altogether to watch the duel.

[@MrBonified66]

Plus before Ahsoka shows up they're ordered to shoot them but one of the people who they're going to shoot says "No!" so they don't.

[@Kaemonarch]

@@khaotika943 Not to mention how they surround Ashoka later, at top of the tower... and while 20 of them are surrounding a single person in a small tower top... none of them spot Sabine, who is right there (she didn't jump after Ezra). Crappy director logic: since the viewers can't see Sabine out of frame, neither can the stormtroopers... But ey, it was totally worth the surprise plot twist of Sabine comming to help Ashoka instead of escaping with Ezra! (Not really...)

[@lbloodraven]

Kinda sums up Disney Star Wars villains

[@pacificnorthwestpilots6050]

Pitch meetings are so on target, unlike stormtroopers.

[@Jebu911]

yeah most of the remaining clone storm trooppers died on the death star. They actually knew how to miss on purpose.

[@KellogsR-ny7ug]

Except when they’re blaster fire happens of screen

[@davidsilvera7436]

I see what you did there

[@israelhernandez5431]

Which I always thought was dumb because Disney decided to turn that scene from episode 4 into a joke throughout the franchise. They were instructed to miss by Vader so they could follow them back to their rebel base, which they did. Obi-Wan even says their aim is very precise. So now every scene they are in is a complete and other joke which offers no threat to the protagonist. Like seriously are you telling me that out of all the storm troopers that have went to go train, don’t know how to shoot? It’s like if the US military was made fun of because everyone is constantly missing despite their training. Your telling me everyone sucks at shooting? Star Wars is a complete joke now.

[@WaterShowsProd]

The fact that everyone assumed Stormtroopers have bad aim is just further evidence that nobody was listening to the dialogue when they watched Star Wars: A New Hope.

[@teardread1899]

"Stoppin a fart is tight." LMAO!!!!

[@jimWare66]

I saw a picture of Ryan today and I thought it looked weird not because there was anything just that something about it was different. Then it hit me, I could see his legs, I’ve never even thought about how he has legs because I've just never see them.

[@jpkc86]

That tibia shin joke was perfectly executed lol

[@christopherhahn8247]

Care to explain? I didn't get it.

[@andrewxaviermcelroy4700]

@@christopherhahn8247 The tibia is the bone in the front of the leg right below the knee. It's also commonly known as the shinbone.

[@thatHARVguy]

This joke had legs to stand on.

[@susanmaggiora4800]

@@thatHARVguy Dad, is that you?

[@invaliduser6431]

​@@thatHARVguy😂

[@johnburnside7828]

"Who is this Tibia person?" One of Ryan's funniest lines in quite a while!

[@oliverqueen8439]

Yeah I didn't understand that joke or the part where he says bathes alone when screenwriter guy says Asoka

[@verandisoldusty6834]

@@oliverqueen8439 Ahsoka aounds like a soak a, as in, I'm having a soak in the bath.

[@RictusHolloweye]

@@oliverqueen8439 - The tibia is the shin bone.

[@charlestonjew7587]

I remember there used to be a formula for coming up with a Star Wars name. I don't remember exactly but something to the effect of putting the first 3 letters of your first name together with the last 3 letters of your last name and that would be the first name of your Star Wars character and then you'd like start spinning around in a circle really really fast for 15 seconds. Once you stop, you open your mouth and the first sound you make is the last name of your Star Wars character, I think.

[@solokom]

​@@charlestonjew7587sounds about right 😄

[@starwarsbunker]

You never disappoint Ryan! This one was so dead accurate.

[@PBAmygdala2021]

Fighting ships in space with lightsabers needs to become the new jumping the shark / nuking the fridge.

[@terrioconnor3124]

Disney: Getting impaled by a lightsaber is meaningless. Qui Gon Jin: Am I joke to you? Edit: Oh God, what have I done, I was just trying to make a joke, not start an argument.

[@Rocket1377]

He got stabbed through the spine, and the duel with Maul continued for several minutes while he lay dying. Wheras Sabine's wound was though her side, and she got medical attention immediately afterwards.

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

Maul literally got cut in half, grew robot legs, and teleported halfway across the galaxy, and you all fucking loved it

[@deepzone31]

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 Not really. It was part of a dumb cartoon IMO.

[@Jasmurray87]

@@mr.stuffdoer8483Maul survived through pure hate and Darkseid ability you could say, but I do agree it’s s stupid that he did I even like the character. The Disney stabbing are literally a joke and slap in the face.

[@Axterix13]

Plus if stabbings were so non-fatal, people wouldn't stab and pull back the blade. They'd move it sideways to cut the person in half.

[@jameslynch2399]

I did find it amusing that they had Sabine get impaled by a lightsaber but it didn't seriously impede anything, because that's been pretty much an insta-kill in every other piece of Star Wars media.

[@magmos6346]

Except Reva.

[@nicolascorre1er]

Yeah totally, like what can you find in the abdomen of anyone? Organs? Ooh please

[@BJMcKay44]

Justice for Qui Gon Ginn! He should have gotten up after Darth Maul tickled him too!

[@MrJacksspleen]

Yeah, Disney is in a bit of a pickle. They can't reconcile selling lethal laser swords to six year olds at their theme parks.

[@Shenaldrac]

@@BJMcKay44 Especially since Maul survived being fucking cut in half. I know people like him for the animated series but come on, bringing him back was awful. If you can survive that, why didn't Qui Gon survive? Why didn't Vader survive a little electric shock from Empy Palps?

[@rolandnew4676]

I’ve said it since the show was announced that this is final breaking point for Star Wars. Well Disney, congratulations, you managed to finally break a life long Star Wars fan. Even after the Sequels, Kenobi, Boba Fett and Mando Season 3 I had hope in this show because I love the characters but you fundamentally managed to make one of the best Star Wars villains in history a mustachioed twirling Bond villain. Dammit Lucasfilm. Great video as always my man.

[@lee-cl8td]

Ahsoka: extremely agile and nimble Live action Ahsoka: as fast as a drunk uncle on christmas

[@blackbolt8447]

He actually laughs when describing her fighting space ships with her lightsabers. The absolute state of Star Wars writing lol

[@godofthecripples1237]

Nah, that moment was great. Straight out of The Clone Wars (or Rebels). Unfortunately, the show didn't also get the cartoons' good writing.

[@warpswede]

well, if that was 'cartoon good' writing... I'll have to pass on those as well.@@godofthecripples1237

[@Vastad]

@@godofthecripples1237 oh wait, so the starship-surfing and melee combat with other spacecraft was meant to be fan service? I only saw the 3D Clone Wars. Sadly have not watched any Tartakovksy 2D Clone Wars, I assume that's where this happened before?

[@godofthecripples1237]

@@Vastad No, it's not a direct callback to anything, just in the same vein as the sort of stunts you'd see Anakin attempting in TCW or the Ghost Crew in Rebels. It's very similar to some events in the ladder, actually.

[@JacobL228]

That's not Star Wars; it's Disney's bastardization of Star Wars. As long as there are infallible black, gay, or female characters, the writing quality doesn't matter to them.

[@jaytaggert2335]

Stopping in the middle of work to watch a new episode of pitch meetings is TIGHT!

[@SuperLocrian]

I hard that very real laugh as you began describing Asoka exiting her spaceship to fight another ship with her light saber (the thing that doesn't even kill anymore) on the wing of her craft - you know... in space😅

[@xoiyoub]

-So what's Ahsoka's personality? -Oh she doesn't have one

[@NerdTime561]

Stopping with what your doing and watching Pitch meetings instead is tight!

[@DavidS.Pumpkin]

Yeah,yeah,yeah

[@warrenwest6884]

Waouw woauw waouw ....waouw

[@marcusmiddleton3861]

Actually it's super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@queen322]

Like literally!!

[@banzooiebooie]

O'rly ?

[@somerandomrpgenthusiast8451]

1:55 I like that he holds off laughter at Ahsoka fighting spaceships with laser swords

[@PreambleJams]

I actually rewound that several times because it was so hilarious

[@skowollon84]

Yeah he actually giggles a little bit Makes it even more funny

[@pritikinaa]

He was thinking, "I'm not making this up guys. A multi-billion dollar enterainment company really did this."

[@briskettaco]

I love how Ryan laughs when describing the Ahsoka vs space ship scene.

[@daveo2992]

Don't forget she fight's like she's 80 even though her character was supposed to be one of the faster/technical fighters

[@paulwalsh2715]

I always feel like I binge watched the entire show after these.... and missed absolutely nothing.

[@oskar6661]

With the "quality" of modern shows, particularly Disney owned endeavors...you're not missing anything. At all. Whatsoever.

[@MAGAMAN]

You missed all the long pauses and scenes that changed absolutely nothing in the show.

[@johnthorneycroft1067]

Ryan skipped an entire set of characters and ‘plot’ (about General Hera) while correctly explaining all the main beats. So at least episode’s worth of stuff that added nothing

[@professorhazard]

He forgot to mention that the life forms in an entirely separate galaxy are also bilaterally symmetrical humanoids/quadrupeds

[@Wertzuio]

@@professorhazard but more than that: the atmosphere is freaking breathable for our heroes. (but thats star wars in general i guess)

[@WorthlessDeadEnd]

"Is that not bad?" "Not anymore, no. That's meaningless. She's up and at 'em in the next episode."

[@xanderpiz8770]

"She learns that it's better to live than to die." Ladies and gentlemen, our next generation of screen writers...

[@PhantoMace2012]

There was a lot to call out in this show, but rewatching that ridiculously absurd shot of Sabine and Ezra nonchalantly walking out of the room as Elsbeth is supposed to stop each of them specifically was VERY painful

[@cgederz6747]

I honestly think for these Disney shows Ryan could do literally the same pitch over and over and it would fit for almost all of the shows

[@mkultra2456]

Are you sure you're being honest?

[@Boeing-777-X]

That's why Andor is the only good thing left in Star Wars.

[@quinnadam3024]

@@Boeing-777-X Andor was well written but omg it is boring

[@Boeing-777-X]

@@quinnadam3024 Boring for empty minds, perhaps. I find it better than all the previous 11 movies.

[@blackblade99009]

@@Boeing-777-X so all of them?

[@manqobakunene]

"and nobody calling her out on that" I didn't understand how nobody told how selfish she was, so many people will die because of her decision

[@fandomking8939]

Women are above consequences in Disney content.

[@kevinm.n.5158]

Even the fans and critics of the show, no one seems to mention the fact she sold out her galaxy for some D she probably never got anyway

[@milordo]

They were clearly too stunned by her bravery to hold her accountable. It's a woman's wet dream

[@Wiseguy909]

I wanted thrawn back so it's automatically fine

[@JacobL228]

The animated Sabine never would have done that, at least not without a plan. Also, there was no indication of her being force sensitive in Star Wars Rebels, so that was clearly just tacked on in a failed attempt to make her seem cooler and make up for how dumb and covered in plot armor she is now.

[@rorypinata265]

"Best beard in the galaxy." It's the same as his! 🤣

[@David-jw7km]

Disney needs to hire this guy to read their scripts before shooting and then create this video for them to watch before giving things the green light 🤡

[@kairoskonquest1164]

PERFFFFFECTTTTT!!!!! 😂

[@AceSpadesStudios]

I love how Ryan has kept this kind of content up for years, without ever having a bad episode despite making 2 videos a week since 2018. The respect I have on this man

[@VikingKong.]

Well Disney just keeps on giving.

[@tanizaki]

“for this man”

[@travisabsher3846]

One of the few channels where every video is really good............

[@Cheshire_Grins]

Love how the impact and threat of a lightsaber has been so lessened that a common cold can keep someone out of action longer now. And while I hated the idea of mitochlorians, I'm starting to think it's better than you can use the force if you just wish really, really hard

[@RelativelyBest]

Eh, I don't mind lightsaber stabs being survivable since that's actually pretty realistic. A hole through your body isn't nearly as lethal as you'd think as long as your heart doesn't get hit, especially when you don't have to worry about blood loss, and Star Wars medical technology should totally be good enough to fix something like that. As for the midichlorians, they were a minor yet surprisingly vital plot device that everyone misunderstood and overreacted to. Outside of specifically the plot of The Phantom Menace, they're not really important at all.

[@Cheshire_Grins]

@@RelativelyBest I'll admit I was speaking mostly in hyperbole. I agree with the stab not being lethal as long as vital organs are avoided and blood loss is managed. I always assumed the lightsaber cauterized the wounds anyway which would cover blood. It's more the regularity of people getting stabbed and just coming back no problem makes me feel the weapon or the user is ineffective. It's a bigger problem that isn't exclusive with Star Wars but it lessens the risk and therefore loses tension. The midochlorians I only took issue with the idea that without them (or without a certain amount, I'm not clear on it) you couldn't be force sensitive at all. What I mean here is I'd rather take the worst case of needing them to have access to the force at all over being so capable of doing the force feats in the Disney era Star Wars with no real training. Again, I just feel it takes something that should be impressive and lowers its value when it feels more like a character just levels up and unlocks full force powers.

[@christiangreff5764]

@@RelativelyBest Why are people so angry abou midichlorians anyways? Imean, force be energy field spanned by (biologically/carboon based) living beings. Midichlorians be symbiotes that do spanning and connecting to it. Pretty simple, and I thought it fit. Is it that they wanted the force to be more mystical?

[@yakb.7690]

​​​@@RelativelyBestyeah no a hole through your stomach is pretty bad news. Not to mention that it was burned through.. that much heat and energy boils the surrounding tissue as well

[@oldmandice2731]

@@RelativelyBest Are you serious? It's more than "just a hole" it's a freaking shaft of plasma hot enough to melt a 3 foot thick blast door, her insides would have vaporized, her organs would have literally exploded, and even if she could have been saved by some insane medical tech or magical force healing power NO ONE was close enough to administer them. No human being should be able to survive being run through with a light saber, period. And, on a side note, all the bad gal had to do was a flick of the wrist and she would have cut Sabine in half, there was literally no good reason to withdraw the light saber cleanly. The show was just pure stupidity on so many levels and this is only one of probably hundreds of examples.

[@jeffwhelan9934]

Brilliant as usual! Kept waiting for the name drop on Finding Nemo, since Ahsoka's plan to get in a whale and hope for the best was just like Dory's.

[@marcus1333]

Except that Dory spoke Whale

[@jonathandiosa5739]

Pinochio?

[@vonneely1977]

I love how the ad they picked for this was for Disney+