Ahsoka Premiere (Ep.1 & Ep.2) - Angry Review

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AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex Review the Premiere for Ahsoka, the latest Disney+ Live-Action Star Wars TV Series! Can this make up for Boba, Obi-Wan and Mando Season 3? Is it better? Find out!
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[@linker27]

This is why I love Alex he stands his ground even when joe gets defensive and fanboys out

[@JackEverton101]

Bro I’m here for him and other Joe at this point I’m not even going to pretend otherwise…

[@SephPumpkin]

@@JackEverton101same

[@jayc5555]

​@JackEverton101 It's funny because I remember Alex getting alot of hate when he first joined AJS now he's pretty much everyone's favourite because he actually has a true opinion.

[@JackEverton101]

@@jayc5555 not only true opinion, one that he backs up with facts and evidence to support his opinion, even when the person who’s arguing with him is constantly trying to shut him down

[@BrokeGuysEntertainmentTV]

yeah there was moments I liked from Rebels but it was just too kiddish for me and I dropped it after 2 seasons and got summary for the other two

[@Vo0Do0972]

Its good when they disagree a little and flesh their opinions out. Good conversation and agreeing to disagree.

[@florez5871]

yea a lot of people don't understand in the comments that they're good friends and they just have different opinions lol lots of weirdos in the comments picking either side and trying to make it seem like there's beef or something

[@Mythowars]

@@florez5871I think joe has gotten miles better at taking other peoples Critisms and being okay with them. Or someone not liking what he liked. Not too long ago I actually didn’t like joe much at all but he mellowed out somewhere along the way. Idk if the comments got too him or he just realized himself that everyone’s gonna have an opinion on something and that’s okay.

[@kanaray9646]

@florez5871 Hm, you're right that they're good friends, etc. But Joe often seems to have a problem with Alex's opinion on things. Alex has high standards, and there's nothing wrong with that. But Joe's inability to just accept that his word is not gospel isn't as such a conversation...its more clear that he's trying to convert Alex, and in a roundabout way, 'win' his argument.

[@Mythowars]

@@kanaray9646 I can see that too. He argues points to a point where you just don’t want to debate with him anymore so he wins 😂

[@briankeys5941]

All that aside... WHY IN TF, ARE WE HONORING, AND POSSIBLY LOOKING FOR EZRA MILLER?! (Leave him and Thrawn, in the Outer Whatever.. AKA prison, LOL.)

[@Landofalcon007]

Can't wait to tune back in after the season finale to hear Joe say, "They done fucked it up!"

[@Warboss_Thrakka_Snazzfingas]

I hope not. I hope it's gets better

[@cloak1408]

He’s always hyping things up that aren’t even THAT good…

[@icecoldpolitics8890]

Really? I think this is really damn good so far.

[@CoalCoalJames]

We all know by the end of the season he's be saying the same thing's as the evil "other angry reviewers" who are not legitimate BTW.. Joe is the only one aloud to be angry as part of his persona.

[@embioz1]

@@icecoldpolitics8890 I don't know for me nothing really noteworthy happens and I was kinda bored. I even watched all seasons of Rebels and I still didn't really get everything. What happend to Ezra? Why are they trying so hard to make Sabine a Jedi even though she has no sense of the force like at all? And where is Zeb? And why is this Nightsister helping Thrawn even though the Nightsisters always were neutral? That and some other things were unclear to me or maybe I just have a bad memory. Anyway I can only imagine how confusing this show must be for someone who knows even less about these characters.

[@plumbussmith]

Qui gonn was unlucky. Everyone other than darth maul had their lightsabers set to stun when stabbing.

[@butterflymage5623]

Nah, he was just unlucky to have to wait for laser doors on a timer to open up and then for his padawan to defeat a Sith Lord. That’s a long time to just lay there before dying

[@coldbreezeproductions]

They didn’t have the bacta tanks yet, he died like a week early. Boba Fett completely healed with that technology!

[@Davidsworldtravels]

Right? EVERY SINGLE Disney show has people getting stabbed in the gut with a lightsaber. Which no one had ever survived before. But now it’s nonstop.😊

[@Azurek1991]

@@Davidsworldtravels Kyle Katarn, Darth Vindican, STARKILLER, and your own player character in The Old Republic all have been stabbed by lightsabers and survived - and this was before Disney took over. I don't understand why this is such a difficult thing to accept. Like I get it doesn't make sense that Darth Vader couldn't land a killing blow on Reva twice, but Shin is still an apprentice.

[@scottv1600]

@@Azurek1991 Also - Shin was clearly toying with Sabine - so wouldn't have gone (as the location of the blow shows) a instant killing hit like nearer to the heart - was leaving her in maximum pain, but also maximum chance of survival - given that Ahsoka was basically on the scene within seconds, that probaby increased the chance too

[@buzzy-ears]

Only here to give OJ props for that hilarious "galaxy close, close nearby" joke that the guys totally missed

[@redliondeaddeer]

Dude sometimes OJ makes amazing jokes / observations which go completely unnoticed 😢

[@buzzy-ears]

@@redliondeaddeer ah, unscripted content will do that...

[@Loveselfloveall1]

I didn’t hear anything funny

[@Ghost-ExE]

I love how AJ and Alex balance out AJs star wars fan boy side

[@robertonbingleron4352]

True. When I watched this review I just kept thinking "poor AJ". Just give the man his good star wars

[@goofysmp]

Bit harsh shitting on Ezra when he watched 1 season on rebels though 😂

[@krpyton7368]

Alex is sad low energy always bitching and complaining

[@durrell1981]

Agreed

[@Cenot4ph]

Joe is a bit of a manchild, can't have it there's critique

[@georgehalsey1389]

RIP Ray Stevenson. I was fortunate enough to know the man. A great actor, loving father, brilliant raconteur and all-round charming, caring, generous human being. All that and a PROPER GEORDIE LAD to boot. Ray was one of the boys, not your average Hollywood pansy. He will be sorely missed.

[@szeleddie]

He was seems to be a good man!!! You are really fortunate to know him! I firstly seen him in the Rome series and he was one of the best part in the series!!! Salute to 13th!!! He will forever remain the mighty Pullo!!! RIP 🙏

[@Devypocalypse]

Proper legend. Loved him in everything, from Catherine Cookson's series, Punisher, Rome, you name it. Proper Geordie bloke.

[@jonalexdennis]

So sad, really good actor and was great in the drama ROME

[@jonor2z]

Was it ever revealed how he died? So sad

[@georgehalsey1389]

@@jonor2z heart attack 😥

[@mulligd4]

I can't beleive they did the lightsaber through the stomack again

[@mrcat3493]

Right? I’m so tired of that. I watched the first episode again and the fight choreography is pretty bad. Shin was doing those stupid 360 spins when it is totally unnecessary. It was like both of them were swinging baseball bats.

[@74camarolt]

Agreed. Completely rolled my eyes and took me out of the show when Sabine was completely fine.

[@batalorian7997]

It's not out of the question to survive an impalement, especially when it's the lower abdomen and to the side

[@mrcat3493]

@@batalorian7997 the issue is this isn’t the first time they did this. It’s just pathetic that they keep going back to the well on this.

[@diegoramos27]

Star wars losing credibility with that

[@AlfyArt]

Made me laugh how AJ got defensive after Alex said Rebels is a kids show.

[@Mythos91Tube]

I love how AJ is all fanboy mode and excited while Other Joe and Alex are like meh. I watched episodes my opinion is meh too, we'll see how it goes.

[@Commentsurveillance]

It’s okay, your opinion is wrong and you’re a bum

[@lum1notryc828]

? They both said it's pretty good, that's more then meh to me lol

[@purefoldnz3070]

the map to the Thrawn was cringe. Is Dave cribbing notes from Force Awakens?

[@Commentsurveillance]

@@purefoldnz3070 I’m glad you disliked it. I’m so happy it invoked a sense of discomfort in you because knowing you had a negative reaction to something gives me life, it keeps me going throughout the day.

[@purefoldnz3070]

@@Commentsurveillance okay comment surveillance, glad you are surveilling all the comments for everyone. OJ didnt like it and most of the viewers either numb nuts. So does his negative reaction also give you life and keep you going?

[@CmdrBrannick]

So Qui-Gon is once again rolling in his force grave, being the only one to die from a lightsaber gut stab XD

[@altaafsheik5725]

Yeah I just rolled my eyes when I saw it

[@TTRPGSarvis]

@@altaafsheik5725 I mean, they were pretty careful with the placement of the wound, plus she got like, immediate medical treatment. It's not a stretch for Sabine to survive it.

[@goldfishprime]

I was just thinking. Everyone that gets stabbed by a lightsaber is very lucky their opponent just pulls it out, or disignites it. I would swipe it to the side and make sure they a goner.

[@CmdrBrannick]

@@TTRPGSarvis I think it'd be more acceptable if Disney didn't just keep doing this over and over again.

[@MichaelWish]

A perfect example of the bad writing we're going to have to endure to continue watching this. That and the thieves being chased in their ship by one person that should be commanding a lot of people. So dumb.

[@SaltySich]

"they didnt kill people in Rebels".... Chopper has killed more people than Vader

[@coreyschmitz1970]

He casually wanted to continue his war crimes by shooting down a ship on top of a population center.

[@Dauth312]

Like seriously, Chopper has a body count of at least 50k by the end of the show with how many ships he is personally responsible for destroying.

[@Hathur]

Yeah, my immediate reaction was "Ok. Clearly he's never watched Rebels.. Cus Chop is a mass murderer." Also there were quite a few deaths in Rebels, not counting Choppers mass-murdering ways. Characters have fallen to death, one character fell into a fire and BURNED TO DEATH, many fighters / ships that get blown up .. etc. There's a fair amount of killing for a "kid's" show.

[@mrcreed1256]

The Empire flat out wiped out most life on Geonosis, which numbered in the billions, on that show..

[@Dauth312]

@@Hathur not to mention in the first season itself we see the Grand Inquisitor behead the 2 officers on lothal under Tarkins orders. It's just done off screen but you hear those bodies thud on the floor.

[@gsalad2525]

Im with Alex 100%

[@Maggbba]

AJ getting defensive every time the others shit on something he likes is honestly exhausting and pathetic.

[@call_me_maple]

What the heck AJ? I get that you like the series but there's no need to fangirl so hard over it. You didn't even let the boys give their review scores, you dropped a big 9/10 and ended the video handwaving the issues the others might have had. That's unprofessional and in my opinion the video isn't complete, and frankly that's totally rude man. I get that you don't like that Alex disagreed with you, but it's just his opinion, you don't have to take it personally. You're better than this.

[@oldroptop7579]

Lmao Joe is fanboying so hard

[@user-rr2ti3jd8y]

Seeing Hayden Christensen play his 20 year old Padawan self from 2002 as a 40 year old was very weird but if we are getting a clone wars flashback with his 2005 look, think he can still pass in the flashbacks with Ahsoka if he is in it 🙏 I hope we get live action Anakin/Ahsoka around ROTS time so we can connect certain moments to the movie when we watch it

[@wasteman3259]

Or they could just pay to properly deage him like Luke

[@JoshBlanksby]

​​​@@wasteman3259Who actually cares? Good stories are good stories, who cares if the characters don't look exactly the same? De-ageing actors will (no pun intended) age poorly over the years. "Oppenheimer" is one of the best movies to come out in years, and Cillian Murphy plays the character at various stages of his life with ZERO CGI. Nobody actually cares.

[@wasteman3259]

@@JoshBlanksby you perhaps have the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. “Nobody cares” because you don’t care, nice one. It’s stupid af to have a 40 yr old play a 17 yr old with no deaging whatsoever. It breaks the immersion completely you can’t actually be serious

[@Misstajay]

wha? Did I miss Anakin?? :O

[@evangingerson1271]

Or put effort into his look

[@beto3707]

I feel the same way as Alex. Despite having watched every season of Rebels, I personally don't enjoy it very much; very kiddish. Characters like Erza don't do it for me. I wouldn't say that Rebels is a bad show as there are a few good episodes.

[@SAM-2772]

Recently tried watching one whole season to get ready for Ashoka and oh man I had the same feelings as Alex did I’m not spending my days off watching a show targeted to children instead I watched a cliff noted version of rebels on KZbin and was like oh ok cool next…. Just wasn’t for me

[@liaminwales]

I just watched a trailer for Rebels, it looks like the Lego games. I kind of want to see them make Alex watch it Clockwork Orange style, eye's taped open so we dont have to.

[@SAM-2772]

@@liaminwales with AJ dripping in eye drops lol

[@beto3707]

@@liaminwales lol

[@Astrothunder_]

give Rebels a chance my man. I was in the same boat as Alex and you until around 2021 during lockdown running out of shows to watch. Finally decided to give it a chance. It was a grind through that first season of childish filler crap. But the climax was juuust interesting enough for me to go on to S2. From there everything is up. The childish art style is toned down so s2-4 you can see the shift to emulate the old clone wars series a lot more. The plot gets better. They bring back and do justice for some old characters. And when Rebels first premiered I was like 16 so I was in that phase of “I’m too old for cartoons” and pretty much dismissed it like 5 minutes in to the first time it aired on TV. I missed out. And I feel any SW fan that doesn’t give it a chance is missing out.

[@riddleme-that]

Nice to see Alex’s and OJ’s perspectives continue to grow & mature over the years. AJ on the other hand…

[@gayjoebiden]

One wants to be RLM, one wants to be nerd crew

[@CyborgT79]

I love the contrast in the intro. Joe is all happy and is celebrating. Then there is other joe and Alex.

[@curian1286]

This does feel kinda sith dagger/map to skywalker/map to palpatine type plot device stuff....

[@aaronhumphrey3514]

I'm very skeptical.

[@unemployedingreenland9358]

The bar is so low at this point that anything even remotely compelling will be overblown out of proportion by fandom. That’s why reviewers like Alex are needed BADLY. Thank you Alex, you’ve said what’s in my head out loud for years and I appreciate it.

[@canadianrage5224]

Joe, like many others who enjoyed rebels will really like this show. Alex, someone who isn’t a fan of Rebels, most likely won’t, or at the very most think it’s okay. Ahsoka will be a tough show to “review,” because your opinions of the show will really boil down to wether or not you liked Rebels.

[@Belloc_The_Hallow]

​@canadianrage5224 this statement is factual. I'm hoping that the story of this can get super compelling, Dave has been working on it for a long time and has neglected the rest of star wars and it shows

[@unemployedingreenland9358]

@@canadianrage5224absolutely not. Lol my opinion of the show will boil down to the quality of storytelling, acting, visual effects, and writing. NOT because I just so happened to of saw the animated version. Congrats to all you Rebels fans, but just because you liked it doesn’t give this show a “get out of jail for free” card if it’s bad.

[@Maggbba]

@@unemployedingreenland9358 Exactly, I hate it when people think the quality of a show or a movie can't and shouldn't be judged individually, that logic is so freaking stupid. It's just a piss poor excuse.

[@fadumankagan997]

You act like andor didnt happen

[@Nick-fc4wu]

Let's see how long it lasts before they pull an Obi Wan.

[@dvader518]

As in make it good?

[@Dp_is_Op]

​@@dvader518obi wan was good? Were we watching the same show?

[@devobeardmen]

Dave Filoni didn't write Obi Wan

[@MrDemocles]

They already did re: lethality of being stabbed with a lightsaber.

[@nandoman4769]

@@dvader518you may have brain damage buddy.

[@YouCanCallMeMich]

I love that Alex is part of this show, mostly it's AJ getting pretty excited by something, OJ is a bit more careful and wants to wait what comes and Alex just says it like it is. Many times when Alex is explaining why he doesn't like something you can see the others rethinking their opinion and get a bit off the dopamine and realize everything Disney has produced is bad to mediocre at best.

[@adamkondracki3201]

Well said 👏

[@andrescepeda6792]

You would call Andor mediocre???

[@YouCanCallMeMich]

@@andrescepeda6792 I would

[@MrBooone]

Alex is reactionary manchild who says he won't give something more of a chance because "I didn't like it at first"

[@YouCanCallMeMich]

@@MrBooone OR he's the only one with a sober vision on things and realizing how shitty the industry has become, you can sprinkle candy drops on a big steaming pile, underneath the sugarcoat it's still a big steaming pile...

[@Sean-kp6pi]

Alex is the only one that gives a good take these days...

[@MyZ001]

It's funny how people used to shit on his opinion. Now, it's probably the best one to pay attention to.

[@michaelscott9040]

For real man, i can't believe joe is eating up all this garbage.

[@DjTittySprinklez]

Every one has their opinion man.

[@francescofioroni70]

used to? I still don't like Alex negativity@@MyZ001

[@mattrasp1615]

@@michaelscott9040”Rey didn’t have any training” “boring training sessions” make up your mind

[@jjc5871]

“I don’t like Ezra” I’ve never agreed with Alex more than I do right in this moment. I have watched every episode of Rebels and I hated Ezra from start to finish. I’m really not liking Sabine here in Ahsoka either. She was probably my 2nd favorite character in Rebels, right behind Chopper, but she was nothing but an annoying brat here in Ahsoka.

[@Blanktester685]

bud he doesn't like anything its not an hot take that nobody in the fandom disagrees with lmao

[@jjc5871]

@@Blanktester685 Didn’t say it was. Just said I’ve never agreed with him more.

[@fennec8896]

He only watched season 1 though… so I’m not saying he would absolutely start liking Ezra but it’d be like judging Ashoka just based on some of the stupid things she does as a Padawan in early clone wars. They do it better with her, but they both get smarter and develop to being less annoying better developed characters. Ashoka still better, not trying to say I like them equally. Not really fair to judge Ezra super harshly when you’ve only seen the first season, which is by far the worst of rebels.

[@khalilgray6903]

@@fennec8896but Ezra never really changed tbh he’s annoying start to finish

[@youwillfindg]

@@khalilgray6903na, Ezra went from stealing fruits for himself to sacrificing himself to remove Thron from the galaxy. Lots of character growth. He may come off as annoying because he’s just some brat orphan growing up in a messed up galaxy and not some noble trained and logical Jedi.

[@jayc5555]

Dont light saber wounds actually kill anyone Anymore,?

[@JackEverton101]

Not with Disney products they don’t…

[@jayc5555]

​@JackEverton101 so glad I've pirated Every star wars product since the mess that is the last jedi. Disney+ don't deserve my money.

[@MichaelWish]

@@jayc5555 Facts.

[@MedalionDS9]

You are so easily swayed Joe... it will take more than a good premiere to call good star wars is back

[@NordicUlfr]

Amen Brother

[@VastoFlo13]

He is dumb lol what do you expect. Go to the dictionary and look up man child AJs face is right next to it. I mean he even made it so that he wins at his tournament of table top lol. He is such a child

[@alicesaxon601]

Even if the entire show was good, it doesnt matter if people dont watch it. Plus, one show isnt saving anything when the streaming service lost half a billion in the last quarter, or at least thats what was reported. We would all be better off if this show fails so maybe finally disney just stops and sells star wars back to lucas. Probably wont happen though

[@dannysha6458]

@@alicesaxon601 I’m sorry hoping for a show to fail is the most idiotic thing I’ve heard in a while lol, especially because what you want is a pipe dream. Lucas isn’t gonna buy back Star Wars lol

[@kyuubifox33]

While I agree it takes more than just a good premier, some of you seem like you are actively choosing not to enjoy or be happy. That’s kinda stupid lol

[@MatthewOlney]

How can an ancient map know where Thrawn went?

[@janusperseus5354]

I would LOVE to watch a review of ANYTHING with just Alex and OJ.

[@workingZen]

I agree with Alex, I never got into the animated series. If it was made to look like the Starship trooper animated show, that felt a bit more less cartoony. But so far I like the visuals of Ahsoka. No characters so far feel annoying or patronising characters like Halo's KWAN!!!

[@petrisilvonen6058]

They have somehow managed to make lightsabers ineffective (just for plot twists). Lightsaber to stomach... Just walk it off. Already lost hope for Disneys Star Wars sadly.

[@Anzac7RAR]

Not everyone gets de limbed or decapitated in a fight. They are sword also so not every hero or person has died from being cut or stabbed by one. Qui Gon got nailed through the chest/spine and if you’ve seen any other Starwars content that ist Disney then it’s happened heaps of people being stabbed and not dying from a non fatal blow.

[@Blanktester685]

maul survived getting cut in half long time ago, kinda weird that now its suddenly an issue.

[@Anzac7RAR]

@@Blanktester685 Darkside is a path to a lot of abilities some consider unnatural. Rage boner for Kenobi helped Maul and Vader to survive stuff that should kill them

[@petrisilvonen6058]

True, but it's still dumb (Dave Filoni might be the main problem...) And lightsaber shouldn't be like a sword. It should cut throught everything (except some special material/shields). "Killing" of Maul was bad idea, but bringing back was worse. These constant leaving to die moments eg. plot twists just make the problems worse.

[@dimvots6729]

@@Anzac7RAR lightsaber melts bunker doors and cuts through hard material its not a common sword. Ashoka did it at the start of the episode.

[@Euruk1]

I'm sort of conflicted because on one hand I'm happy to see Thrawn in live action, but It feels weird having read the Heir to the Empire trilogy (amazing btw). It's still early so I don't want to write it off, but I cant help but feel they are going to attempt a bastardized version of his character and that overall story here.

[@Foehammer006]

Why is AJ so offended when they disagree with him? I think a lot of people didn't care for rebels

[@trollingwithcheats5929]

Because Alex said he didn't watch it but because they don't kill anyone in season 1 it's for kids

[@Aussious07]

I watch these to see Alex take these shows apart and AJ slowly start to agree that YES actually they suck!😂

[@MyZ001]

Seeing AJ's grinning, hype and praise in the opening immediately made me fast forward to OJs and Alex's opinion😆. And, he's even arguing against their opinions and giving examples of other media to say "well, but it was like that for this, or same thing for that"... I wasn't looking for some fanboy review who gets hype off member-berries and fanservice. I wanted an actual objective (as possible) opinion. Everyone shits on Alex for being critical, but that's why they need him, and I'm glad he's there. Critical is good. Nitpicky and anal about it is bad

[@memecliparchives2254]

Alex is nitpicky at this point.

[@jeffn4836]

Why didn’t Shn behead Sabine after pulling the saber out? Or just swipe sideways cutting her in two? A saver through the body is no longer fatal

[@ppsarrakis]

her master says its a pity to kill ahsoka since there are so few jedi,my guess those guys ideas are a bit different than the sith we know

[@kevintrjohnson]

At least she wasn't stabbed through the spine and then walked it off like in Obi-Wan, but yeah, I agree with the sentiment. Can we please stop treating impalement as a flesh wound? I know lightsabers canonically cauterize flesh so she's not at risk of bleeding out, but our bodies aren't made up of only flesh, there are internal organs and a wound like that probably took out a kidney at least.

[@isa2758]

and why when assassin droids came in the first one shoot her, ok, the second one from behind her instead of shooting just....grabb her.........

[@mat3714]

Too little too late.... Andor like stuff or i don't think i care anymore. Mission accomplished KK.

[@Sihion]

“Rebels are not for kids!” - while chuckles and cries

[@inefekt]

"they don't kill many people in Rebels" Chopper: Say what bro?

[@user-rr2ti3jd8y]

Was some serious tension between Alex & Joe in this episode 😅

[@watchmesquatch]

Cause Alex wants everyone to be as miserable as him. 😂

[@letzrock1675]

@@watchmesquatchNah more like AJ not letting anyone speak and trying to override everyone’s opinions.

[@vinjass]

Joe gets really defensive with his fanboy shit

[@krpyton7368]

I can’t stand Alex he terrible

[@BrooklynBiggis]

AJ was extremely defensive and it kinda made this review unbearable. It's fine to disagree, but then they start arguing semantics over what's considered a "kids show" and even tries to take a swing a Luke in the original trilogy.

[@angryfilmgamer570]

AJ needs to put his fanboy aside and review this show for what it is. Believe me I loved Clone Wars and Ashoka. This is not the storytelling I love, and it's important to recognize that.

[@tacitus6384]

Is it just me or does Ashoka fold her arms a lot? Like, I can't unsee it, she does it all the time.

[@HikaruSwift17]

Now that you mention it, after watching the first episode, I agree. Makes her look close minded/arrogant.

[@tuvn.]

Alex needs his own show

[@EnriqueMaxx]

Yeah I would prefer that too. He gets so little time to speak and when he does he's constantly interrupted to the point where he just has to keep talking and hope he can get some kind of point across while AJ is talking over him

[@augustodelerme7233]

Indeed!

[@watchmesquatch]

Yeah, one where he can be a miserable whiny POS on his own with whiny people like you. 😂

[@Makta972]

yeah i'm so tired of joe

[@BubbleGum566]

I don't think an Alex show would be as popular as people would think. If you look at the OJ and Alex adventures. It has lower viewership than most of their with Angry joe.

[@timothy6672]

joe- cmon man- stop talking over your buddies- let them talk when its their turn like they let you talk when its yours

[@stevemartegani]

The strange choice to have long pauses after every line of dialog put me off. Everything else I enjoyed quite a bit.

[@JocaWars]

Literally the long pauses, the slow, almost disengaging responses, and the slow movements. Felt like they were just trying to drag the runtime

[@citizen3000]

@@JocaWarsit confuses the low IQ fans into thinking the dialogue is weighty and full of meaning

[@Peer165]

It's clearly an homage to the old Kurosawa samurai movies. The characters express themselves through silence, small gestures and expressions equal to the dialogue and it's delivery. Now, children and people with adhd will obviously have issues with this but I for one enjoy this slow but deliberate form of filmmaking alot.

[@citizen3000]

@@Peer165it’s clearly a homage to special ed types

[@stevemartegani]

@@Peer165 I don't agree with your assessment. Kurosawa used closeups and well framed shots allowing us to SEE those small gestures and composition that made the silence enjoyable to watch. The dialog scenes so far were filmed far away and very flat, looked more amatuer than being an homage of anything.

[@BasementPepperoni]

Not gonna get excited or even get expectations up in the slightest. Time and time again, Lucasfilm has never disappointed with disappointing fans of their IP's. If it's a good show? Great, I'm very happy they did something right finally. If it's just another multimillion dollar sh^tshow? Well, water is still wet, can't really get any lower than it is now.

[@darkfire7660]

Andor was great though.

[@Lightguardian_HOH]

Then be a pessimist all your life then lmao

[@BasementPepperoni]

@@Lightguardian_HOH lol, don't be so melodramatic.

[@Autobotmatt428]

Only 2 episodes Joe lets wait and see

[@JayTraversJT]

12:45 Yeah this is my issue with rebels in general. I get it Ashoka has been through allot but I thought most of her arc in clone wars was learning how the jedi lost their way. Why she decided to became just as reserved, stoic and kinda disconnected is beyond me.

[@benjaminvega7186]

That's what happens when you fight in a war for so long. Luke and dak in esb showcase that pretty well

[@mattrasp1615]

That’s called wisdom.

[@streetsiswatching9660]

Blame disney

[@ramonosuke]

Yeah ,this is why Alex needs his own channel. I’m really only here for him and OJ at this point

[@maribelllara9148]

You’re not special for saying that if people like Alex more Alex would do his own channel but most people like the trio and if it weren’t for Angry Joe you would’ve never seen Alex.

[@isaiahmorris7856]

Did we watch the same show? This schlock was not a 9/10 lol

[@simonrigg8391]

9/10? Not a chance.

[@jonathaneby9485]

Did anyone else think that star map reminded them of Treasure Planet? Maybe they'll run into John Silver in the new galaxy. XD

[@Trocify225]

Joes face and tryna ignore what Alex was saying at first was hilarious

[@pablopablo3834]

It had all the amazing Disney Star Wars Tropes, Getting ran through by a lightsaber then being slightly wounded and a MASSIVE explosion from self destructing droids that made literally no sense at all.

[@deathstroke-sl5jo]

Wait till you hear what happens to Maul

[@B-Dad]

Disney sabers must be garbage because they can’t kill anyone! 🤷🏾‍♂️ I guess no one’s ever really gone anyways so there’s that! 🙅🏾‍♂️🙅🏾‍♂️

[@thesixth2330]

Wren got a lightsaber put through and not only survived but was ready to go in a few days! Got to love DISNEY! Ashoka was never a JEDI, ever, she stated this in Rebels! ITs also a great thing when your audience can guess your entire story's arc after the first viewing. Great Writing!!!!

[@Jon-yn4pq]

I explained this in another comment with some guy defending the whole lightsaber through the gut yet being totally fine the following day. Setting aside the fact that is just complete bullshit, it just seems like really lazy writing to fake out the audience into thinking she died then revealing immediately that she's totally cool. Like, if it's so realistic that she could have survived it, why did almost everybody that's defending it assume she was dead when it happened?

[@brachyzoid]

Expecting it to shit the floor in tops episode 4. Hoping it's NOT the case, but the track record is not good

[@Sandersss57]

I’m calling by the 5th lmaooo

[@gicz9419]

Angry Alex show let’s go 😂

[@Squeenix1]

i love the master and his apprentice and the dynamic they have together. You can feel like their journey has been thought out

[@frankthetank8050]

That stupid purple haired chick could not be a jedi apprentice in a Million years Absolutely insufferable

[@Robd07]

That first episode intro was Bad ass!!!!

[@TheKickass85]

Except there is two Apprentices not one 😂

[@narc440]

@@TheKickass85 Well we don't know if they're sith or not

[@evangingerson1271]

Especially since she is hot af

[@thejawgz6719]

The villains are the best part of the show so far. They just feel incredibly fresh, mysterious, and aren’t comically evil.

[@Desperation--Live]

Dude I completely agree. However I'm guessing they mess it up 😅

[@majorastorm]

There's a perfect contrast of opinions between all three of these men and I'm here for it I like Ashoka episodes and wanna see what happens next but I see where all point of views are coming from

[@curian1286]

Yeah Ahsoka was definitely WAY off in her personality compared to all previous iterations including mando and boba. Alex and Oj were 100% right and it is clearly taking place around the same time of those two stories based on the opening crawl of Ahsoka ep1 with the capture of that witch lady from mando season 2

[@embioz1]

Ahsoka acted just weird all the time and there's no logical explanation to this.

[@curian1286]

@embioz1 After watching ep3 its clear they are doing an "Ancient Martial Arts Master" thing with her, and it doesn't fit well. Plus, she's missing the long white beard lol

[@TobiasKryze]

I think the issue with this MacGuffin thing is that, they didn't explain it very well. In this case, the map is not meant FOR finding Thrawn, the map was originally for finding THAT Galaxy, that specific planet. I guess they explain more of it in episode 3 when they say they are following the migrating Whales. It's another thing where you have to have watched Rebels to understand what happened to Ezra and Thrawn in the first place. It's not like they both got in a ship and just went to hide and this map just happens to know where they went even though it's been buried for a millennia lol. I suppose they probably hoped that people would figure that out on their own, but the Sequels ruined that

[@TobiasKryze]

I agree with Alex about Rebels though, it was.. not good to start out. But I pushed through it and now it's in my top ten. And it's the same with Clone Wars. I hated Clone Wars for years. I started it this year and couldn't stop watching until I finished. It's a bloody masterpiece..but it's also slow to start. I also didn't like Ezra to begin with and even now kinda don't. I also Agree with Alex's takes on Sabine. It's like they wanted to show her as a petulant Teen for a couple episodes like she was in Rebels..then shows her grow up. At the end of Rebels she WAS grown..so having her go back seems stupid..but Episode 3 fixed all that imo Edit: I see they have episode 3 up now, let's see what changed XD

[@HHHPedigrees]

Unfortunately the only people who know who Ahsoka is are die hard Star Wars fans that watched Clone Wars and Rebels

[@shindalah1794]

The second I heard some about finding a map, i immediately had a bad feeling a la sequel trilogy.

[@Георг-л5л]

Literally no fucken plot.

[@EmjayMusic05]

It makes no sense lol: So let me get this straight, a map that is thousands of years old leads to the updated location of thrawn? Yeah nah

[@owenkerr1836]

Let’s hope the rest of the episodes are good and satisfying, and not disappointments, and the series doesn’t turn into another hit and miss.

[@cashewnuttel9054]

It will - only the first two episodes are usually good in order to garner attention, but eventually they will end up as disappointments, and will give a very anti-climactic ending.

[@thebowler73]

Phenomenal!

[@DarksideGmss0513]

It's going to be. Especially when Thrawn shows up..

[@mandolorian9893]

It will depend on what your expectations are. Remember that this is Dave Filonis show and he has a style and influenced by things that you will either like or dislike. If you liked the other things made by him you will probably like Ahsoka.

[@MrDeengels]

So far it’s strike one

[@Earthslastlegend]

Joe how do you guys feel about the show? Proceeds to interrupt and disagree about how they feel about the show😅.

[@Black.Clover5]

It’s so irritating 😂 it’s like a little boy who can’t help themselves.

[@MedalionDS9]

Right, like what is the point of having these discussions when only Angry Joe's score counts. He has them on cuz they are friends but he talks over them all the time and never lets their words influence his feelings good or bad... it's pointless.

[@kiwi4kian]

I thought it felt a little cheap that Sabine is now a Jedi. I can’t believe that half of the rebel crew are just force sensitive enough to where they could be Jedi. It felt like we went from Luke being the last jedi to jedis popping up in every piece of Star Wars media we get.

[@awhbr1]

I'm not sure if Sabine is force sensitive. She didnt demonstrate any jedi powers until now. I think Ashoka was simply training her to fight with a lightsaber (and probably some jedi ideology. But nothing really practical)

[@jonasnee]

@@awhbr1 they straight up says she has low aptitude towards the force, she also clearly doesn't hold the dark saber anymore. they also call her a padawan.

[@donemu9096]

@@awhbr1 the show straight up says she has a low aptitude. Also lightsabers are extremely dangerous for non-jedi to use. The force is pretty much the training wheels that stops them from accidentally lopping off a limb.

[@awhbr1]

@@jonasnee low aptitude basically means no force power. Remember: every living being is connected to the force. Everyone has at least some aptitude with the force

[@daniel-it2lw]

regardless if you like the story or not, the actual filming quality is pretty good, a massive step up from kenobi.

[@EmjayMusic05]

I find it interesting how people separate Andor when they discuss star wars show. Is Andor not included because it “doesnt feel like star wars,” or what? Because I feel like Kenobi, Boba, Mando, and Ahsoka all suffer from the same issues of bad writing and bland filming while Andor doesnt. Ahsoka doesn’t really improve anything except slightly better choreography than Kenobi. I believe, actually, that Kenobi has a better base story than Ahsoka has shown so far

[@daniel-it2lw]

@@EmjayMusic05 it's funny that because I thought andor was pure trash haha, I haven't even finished it yet because it's soooo boring.

[@EmjayMusic05]

@@daniel-it2lw i respect your opinion but i disagree. It is slow paced, yes, but is good for the same reason that, say, Oppenheimer is good. It may seem like people talking for hours on end, but the buildup and payoff is worth it. Me personally, i like to watch a show that has a story it wants to tell, and not one that endlessly references previous material to try and get a nostalgic response. Good writing means having a story that can stand on its own, not a bunch of action with no depth or reason behind it.

[@daniel-it2lw]

that is a good point, its just the timeframe i don't like i guess. i really enjoyed the clone wars because it had a lot more depth in the lore then we got in the main movies. but i am more on the space battles and lightsaber fights side. i enjoy the excitement more. but saying that the bad story in the sequel trilogy wasted the movies potential. maybe i should try and finish andor haha @@EmjayMusic05

[@donovan5656]

@@EmjayMusic05agreed. The cinematography still feels flat compared to Andor.

[@mixwatcher265]

It definitely feels like this is a show meant for Rebels fans, so unfortunately, since I haven’t seen Rebels yet, I can’t really say I’ve had much interest in watching this

[@batalorian7997]

Rebels is okay. Personally, I hated two of the characters, Ezra and Chopper. There are some episodes that I do not care for, but then there some that are really good

[@kyuubifox33]

I’ve only seen bits and pieces of Rebels, really only the later stuff with Maul. Nothing of a ‘big Rebels fan’, but I still enjoyed the start to Ahsoka

[@MuddywatermultimediaGroup]

then dont

[@coldbreezeproductions]

@@batalorian7997how the fuck can you hate chopper?!

[@YuProducciones]

agree, feelin the same, so far its meh to me, but production quality is really good

[@issahumps]

Wait till the classic Disney bait and switch mid season lol

[@realmatic10]

So, I gave it a chance…My god, how much can the bar be lowered for this type of ish to be considered good?

[@SAM-2772]

Till you can’t limbo any further

[@ningnong1343]

Why doesn't Joe pay attention to his friend's responses?

[@DumDumN1]

Mando and Ahsoka run in the same time line. Thrawn was mentioned in the Mandalorian, that he was missing, Ahsoka was alrdy searching for him when she made a appearance in Mandalorian

[@SoldierSpiderx]

I dropped kicked it when the lightsaber stab didn't kill her immediately and then she lived. That was about it for me. The cheap SW attire was baffling as well and I really like how they’re writing the two Jedi. When the master said it would be a shame to kill Ashoka since there are so few Jedi left it gave such an interesting dynamic to his character and My favorite character in all of this is Baylan, just the way he is "silent but deadly" vibe its great! Rest in Peace Ray.

[@steveno7058]

Surviving stabs isn’t new. Maul, Boba, Anakin, Kenobi. Qui Gon was the exception because he wanted to become a force ghost and let go of life

[@scottv1600]

Why? It clearly was not a central blow, so was nowhere near the heart or other vital organs - and a light saber literally works as a self-cauterizer so prevents bleeding out. Ahsoka is basically already there, with her ship and the super advanced medical equipment they have in SW - so less than 1-2 mins before they'd have been able to get her into a healing bay. I know people make an argument about the death of Qui Gon (RIP) as a counter to other people living - but the differences could not be more stark. Qui gon was left for dead for 5+ mins whilst a duel was going on, in the middle of nowhere, nowhere near any advanced medical facilities. Whereas with this one, within minutes, she'd have been straight into the most advanced medical facilities in the GALAXY - and even then it clearly took days, maybe weeks for it to heal enough for her to be left with that bad ass scar and not fully fit. Reva on the other hand ...

[@Devinn504]

You’re acting like star wars characters haven’t survived lightsabers stabs before. Lol

[@UnifiedEntity]

@@steveno7058 Maul and Anakin was not stabbed, they were sliced in half. Kenobi got stabbed in his arms and legs, not torso and/or stomach area.

[@dirkjewitt5037]

Let me guess? Joe kind of like it.

[@JackEverton101]

Shocking I know

[@Dp_is_Op]

Why the Sarcasm? Dude dislikes plenty of things

[@MedalionDS9]

You can easily tell by the thumbnail, he rarely makes a thumbnail of his face reaction to go against it in teh actual review

[@jameskoehler4939]

Rebels came out when I was 33. I tried it, but didn't get far since it's a childrens show. This show seems tailored for fans of that show and a younger audience in general. Ahsoka feels like a CW show to me, and I can't stand it.

[@20SidesOfZeke]

15:24 Obi-Wan just needed to push Qui-Gon down the same hole as Darth Maul and he'd come back just fine.. In current Disney Star Wars, all characters seem to survive off-screen deaths if they fall from a great height.. Still waiting for Mace Windu to make a re-entry. They made the rules, so they need to own up to them :D

[@XShrike0]

They are going to different galaxy? It sounds like the well has been so badly poisoned that they have to abandon the current setting and go some where so far away that they don't have to deal with it.

[@punkdude777]

Just finished episode 1, the fact that Joe was confused that people thought she was unlikable is a testament to how hard he's fanboying. She wasn't just a rebel, she was bratty and selfish, which then resulted in problems for other people. That's not how you do rebellious, but likable.

[@HelloMyNameIsZON3]

😂 You can instantly tell how Alex feels it's hilarious

[@michaelthomas5433]

Someone was stabbed through the chest with a lightsaber.. and lived. Must be Tuesday.

[@davidcorrigan6578]

Imagine Joe watching Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic videos. “You can pinpoint the exact moment his heart breaks”

[@DAYMAND3R3552]

I didn’t mind it. But damn how many people that get stab by a Sabre and survive is a joke. My boy Qui Gon Jinn spinning in his crave.

[@drasilisk2895]

Tbf Sabine was only stabbed in the side and got immediate medical attention. Qui Gon got stabbed clean through the spine and still lived long enough for Obi Wan to cut Maul in half.

[@DAYMAND3R3552]

@@drasilisk2895 I guess but it just makes the sabres seem so weak. I mean why do it in the first place if she’s just gunna be ok 5 seconds later?

[@drasilisk2895]

@@DAYMAND3R3552 Because she fucked up and lost the fight? That's like asking why Luke even lost a hand if he just got it replaced with a perfect prosthetic 5 seconds later.

[@jayc5555]

​@DAYMANDER3552 they did the same thing in obi wan too though. Can only women survive them or something?

[@DarksideGmss0513]

She's a Mando aren't they supposed to be relatively tough and resilient? I don't see it as a problem.

[@ComicBookBob]

Episode 1 was weak for me. Everyone seemed idiotic and I agree with Alex, Sabine in episode 1 was wholly unlikable. Thankfully it got better, but its a tired trope. Episode 2 was better and renewed my interest in the show going forward. I do have to say I agree with Alex again with the lightsaber stuff, enough with people living through major lightsaber wounds.

[@OlekDeejay]

Alex, it's true Rebels is catered to kids but as seasons progress, especially season 3, there are some dark themes and more killings. It gets deeper. I would search online and look up the important non-filler episodes. The more you learn about Kanan, the more you will appreciate the show.

[@wlot28]

If you're not enjoying something from the beginning it's unlikely you'll be willing to slog through entire seasons just to get to "the good part"

[@chilbiyito]

True but still too much filler episodes where nothing interesting happens

[@pillarsofsnow7940]

@@wlot28that’s true, but the counter point is that in doing so you never give a show a chance to improve

[@wlot28]

@@pillarsofsnow7940 It's important to make the audience care from the beginning or else by the time it improves they've already stopped caring

[@kaonashi9200]

Completely agree about the Sabine “angsty” vibe. “I dont want an award, i just wanna be alone mehhhh” god just shut up. Shes annoying already.

[@Tsizzle4rizzle]

Why does Disney insist that you can just take a Lightsaber to the gut and walk it off first obi Wan and now ahsoka I remember back in the day if you got hit by a lightsaber you would either die or lose a limb

[@perciusmandate]

Clone Wars and Rebels are some of the best post-Lucas Star Wars stories. I hope Alex gets over his stubborn "it's for kids" thing and gives them a watch. Kids' show doesn't always mean bad show.

[@Phanthief95]

Exactly. Just because it’s for kids doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it as an adult. Avatar The Last Airbender is a kids show & I still rewatch it every now & then because of how well written the story, characters, & world are, & how great the action & comedy are.

[@coreyschmitz1970]

Exactly. Rebels and Clone Wars has some of the best stories in all of Star Wars. Alex seems to want everything to be like Andor when there's plenty of room for other type of story telling.

[@KyubiCloaks]

The only good parts of rebels is when old characters show, vader, ahsokha, maul etc. The crew is horrible

[@Sperminski]

It’s 3d rate SW. Noone cares about these chars except Ahsoka and Thrawn.

[@MegaDVids]

I appreciate them having three perspectives to get a more accurate depiction if the review. I appreciate Alex holding his ground on his perspective. I agree, as a standalone show, which is what this show is. It needs to hit on that front and not use everything from a show most audiences have not seen.

[@zurc314]

Seeing Joe get defensive over rebels is hilarious

[@CamFBA]

10:23 Joe forgetting that all media is subjective 😮‍💨

[@chrisjusticeable]

I love how Angry Joe just consistently has the worst and most biased opinions on his own show.

[@goofysmp]

My only 2 big criticisms of the show so far is the pacing and I don’t really think Hera and Sabine’s actresses have done a tonne of research if their characters. They just feel like generic good people with not a lot of personality

[@Meowtro]

They don't need to do research on the characters, it's up to the writers to write them properly and the directors to direct the performances. This is what was approved by those people.

[@goofysmp]

@@Meowtro What? Actors always do research on their characters. It’s basic acting lessons. You can’t get your characters demeanour and personality off a script. You think Heath Ledger got his joker from a director? Or Robert Downey Jr? They would’ve definitely been looking at the source material

[@Meowtro]

@@goofysmp They really don't. Even the cast of The Last of Us were told not to play or watch anything on the games.

[@goofysmp]

@@Meowtro There’s no way your think that. They’ve done an interview where they’ve said themselves to prepare for their roles they watched some gameplay online because they aren’t particularly gamers and couldn’t find the time to pick up the game and play it

[@Meowtro]

@@goofysmp Not what they said at all. Bella Ramsay as said she was told not to play the game and admitted that she watched gameplay when she wasn't supposed to.

[@dkaptain5879]

I liked Rebels season 2 and 3 quite a bit. Loving the show so far. Feels like a love letter to rebels.

[@citizen3000]

I’m tired of love letters. It’s time for this series to pull its head out of its own ass.

[@cosmickeyboard9811]

Love letters, bro that's what fans want, affection for something they care about

[@naftulzvi3353]

@@citizen3000 Take your own advise.

[@alicesaxon601]

Well…yeah dave filoni made rebels. Every show hes involved in is a love letter to himself mostly. Im tired of star wars constantly looking back, always trying to replay the hits even though imo rebels sucked but i know a lot of people liked it

[@citizen3000]

@@cosmickeyboard9811 Pathetic. Then all you’ll ever get is remixed, reheated, empty Star Wars imagery and nostalgia.

[@Mathus1]

Joe is very afraid of star wars fans not liking him and its very obvious.

[@Blanktester685]

or he just has a different opinion then the majority.

[@93gamrx]

He has no idea how dark rebels can be. Especially Chopper 😂😂😂

[@toondeath5450]

Couldn't agree with OJ more, its the same old plot devices again and again. When Ahsoka told Sabine she couldn't take the map with her it just immediately lets you know oh ok so she's definitely gonna take the map, and if she takes the map she obviously going to lose it to the enemy straight away or shes gonna crack it open and then lose it straight away. That whole sequence I was just waiting for the enemy to turn up, it kills tension doing the same thing over and over and over again. IMO we don't have story tellers any more we have the writing equivalent of a person putting a jigsaw puzzle together. Trying to make a different product out of the same pieces over and over

[@survoah]

I hope the low bar that’s been set in the past will continue to be raised even if its not a perfect show

[@leandromadeireira8840]

Gonna be honest, after andor, the bar has risen for me, so if it's not at least a 8 it's a no.

[@antdigiulio4285]

tbh I don't think the bar can get any lower then THAT scene on fortress inquisitorius in Kenobi

[@watchmesquatch]

​@@leandromadeireira8840Anbore 😂

[@KyubiCloaks]

What low bar? Mando season 3 and boba fett were bad. Kenobi was mid, high highs and low lows. Mando season 1 and 2 were good, andor was good, tales of the jedi while short eas mostly good, bad batch 1 was good and 2 was mid-bad. Visions was good and fun what ifs. Overall theyve hit more than they missed on star wars tv people way over exaggerate.

[@leandromadeireira8840]

@@KyubiCloaks i think that the problems is that the lows are REALLY LOWS, like ep 9, and kenobi. Kenobi for me was really bad, because clone wars is my thing in star wars, the amount of potencial it had, man, what a waste, at least we gonna have trials of the master.