She-Hulk Season 1 Finale - EPIC FAIL ENDING! - Angry Review

[@61241Rex]

Joe: “So who’s the villain of the show?” Alex: “The writers” I wheezed when Alex said that but he’s right

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Lmao he’s not wrong!🤣

[@AussieDadAndy]

Jen's the villian. She does nothing heroic the entire show

[@marconeves1979]

LOL!!! Yes, indeed.

[@sebastianemond5313]

If this was trying to go for a Freakazoid level fourth wall break- April O'Neil: "Well, you failed miserably!"

[@-MrDontCare-]

🤣

[@aTalkingPizza]

I love how her character arc was learning nothing and everyone else was wrong but her. Truly a breaktaking vision for the series

[@lightdarksoul2097]

She literally was proven wrong and at the end found her own way to do both what she wanted and what Bruce said she had to do.

[@BowmansWorld]

What are u talking about? U daft? The show literally showed how wrong ien was at the beginning because she couldn’t control her rage and hulked out. Bruce was right.

[@aTalkingPizza]

@@BowmansWorld yeah it showed that... and then it showed her writing out of all consequences by breaking the 4th wall entirely. Which if you enjoy fine. But it doesn't make for a compelling story to me

[@aTalkingPizza]

@@lightdarksoul2097 not to me it didn't. She writes herself out of all consequences from hulking out and the enemies she made.

[@MarkHarrison-bo3kf]

Just like the comic. It is good to see a show faithful to the source material.

[@nopityfac8609]

I absolutely love Alex’s statement “it’s not supposed to make sense, they want you to talk about it. The thing is I don’t want to talk about it because nothing here is worth talking about, it’s just meta garbage “ not a truer word has been spoken about this, it’s the equivalent to people misspelling words in Facebook reels to get more comments

[@Ko700el]

what? dude the cat misspelling stuff memes ?? HO LO PE VE you : Hope Love me : Holo Peve dude, these shit most of the times are actually funny

[@markcassar2868]

i did it better cause i didnt even watch it and i am not going to :)

[@eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946]

I’m just hoping Marvel Studios fix this problem have better male female characters well written badass sexy also the punisher is going to be TVMA he needs to be ultraviolet and dark Mature tone.

[@thea-mansmoviereviews1442]

Exactly. Not a gddamn thing. I want to kill myself thx to this crap.

[@gerry10leon]

@@Ko700el pretty sure he means the posts that have random words misspelled in the captions, not actual memes making fun of misspelling. Like when someone uses the wrong "their, they're or there"

[@jasonw8665]

I can’t believe the writers actually put themselves in the show. Their egos just couldn’t resist the urge to literally make it about them.

[@kluneberg8952]

to be fair, its the first and last time they'll write for something mainstream.

[@joshopoke]

stole it straight out of deapool kills the marvel universe too

[@jasonw8665]

HaHaHa!!! That’s so true.

[@OzoneGamerStation]

Jesus, you guys will complain about anything.

[@AbraCaStabra]

@@kluneberg8952 I feel bad for you if you believe that. I mean, I wish it was true, but these people continue to get jobs because of their friends and so long as they have friends, or meet a quota, they'll continue to get work.

[@thecapn3560]

Joe had more of a character arc than she-hulk during season one 😂

[@philberto78]

Haha that’s so true! I remember how upset he was in his video he made responding to his audience. But now he finally accepts the truth.

[@redragongaming]

Lol Joe doesn't care about you, only about the money his channel makes, to him you're just another number.

[@TheLastSane1]

Admit you've never read a She-Hulk comic. Because honestly this was spot on. See you lot fail to understand that She-Hulk does the fighting bit in her comics but the story is never really about the fighting. She-Hulk is self-aware she knows she is in a comic and often uses those comics as evidence in her trials. She was self-aware and using the fourth wall LONG before Deadpool was a thing, even in his comics he has pointed out that he just copied her but the MRA who read his comics would never read a female lead comic so they think he did it first. Yeah thats a literal fucking thing. So Jen actually busting out and confronting the bad writing and the tired tropes and overused plot lines is 100% accurate to the source material because fans have been complaining about the tired trope of the hero having to fight the bad guy who has the exact same powers of the hero for YEARS, Having Hulk show up outta no where to save Jen would be stupid too because it would make her look weak in her own show. You also miss this is not a superhero show, its a sitcom with a superhero character. BIG difference.

[@GUYMAN261]

@@TheLastSane1 bad show is bad no matter what happens in the comics

[@TheLastSane1]

@@GUYMAN261 If you think its bad thats fine. Just admit that you 1 never were going to like it, its female lead. and 2 that it does not follow your agenda and beliefs. The show is a sitcom its not an action movie, you lot just are being dump

[@Username18981]

Joe has more of a character arc over the course of this shows reviews than she-hulk does. Bit of a tear jerker at the end when he resigns himself with those that jumped the gun on calling it crap before he did.

[@triggerfairy4070]

Joe stole Jens character arc.

[@trueLuminus]

FACTS!

[@alexschneider8494]

Joe hasn’t realized that it’s pretty easy to see something is going to be shit within a half hour lol

[@65firered]

He goes through the whole hero's journey

[@opibegoob7585]

@@alexschneider8494 joe just wants to review it thoroughly. Give it the benefit of the doubt before it’s over. After all, you can’t decide how something is until it’s over.

[@guyvizard549]

The most unbelievable part was that the writers actually had the episodes planned out in front of them.

[@willybe6427]

i was more shocked that joe and gang defended the twerking episode... lol but their reaction and sadness while borderline crying and saying "but... it's NOT the worst thing on tv right now..." and then trailing off without a better example.... pure chefs kiss

[@PlahaKumar]

This show is rock bottom for the MCU.

[@KyubiCloaks]

@@willybe6427 imagine being mad at a fun post credit twerk scene

[@thekey1175]

@@KyubiCloaks German cat strikes again

[@luckymark571]

@@PlahaKumar Nah, dark world and Hulk worse tbh but this is up there or actually down there Imao

[@whatislife4831]

She-Hulk is the most powerful character in the MCU by far. She can Karen her way into the Writer's office and force anything she wants to happen.

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@Zuernaxashyr So?

[@Zuernaxashyr]

Um this is in line with her character.. She did a similar thing on the books where she broke out and spoke to the writer.

[@juckthebuck]

@UCIxusgGvAo63pJNSy2jXB9g Yeah but it works with comics, not that well in the mcu.

[@sweeqydreamsnl]

@@Zuernaxashyr so a random ass strong green girl is literally God in her universe. What a shit gimmick

[@Excalibur01]

The real She Hulk isn't a Karen

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

The fact the writers went "This ending makes no sense!" and then proceeded to make a worse ending is hilarious...in the most depressing way.

[@glidergoku]

That’s what actually had me close to rage 😂😂😂 I was like wtf no pay off no cool last episode fight no nothing we just got some internet trolls arrested

[@LouSassol69er]

The writers should be blacklisted from working on any high profile projects. I don't know how these writers still get work... Any good writers deserve ALL the money for their work.

[@Angel-7z]

I miss comic she hulk😭

[@budgiecat9039]

@@LouSassol69er Jessica Gao said she was rejected by Marvel three times before this. Now we know why Dana Schwartz has been bitter and mad at fans because her She-Hulk comics werent liked and didnt sell. So now we see why this show was made the way it was.

[@LouSassol69er]

@@budgiecat9039 I don't know about that. I think it's dumb executives that don't care about the products they make and just making their quota content delivery for Disney+.

[@Valgard_Alvarius_Valterri]

Joe: "so who's the actual villain in the show?" Alex: *without hesitation* "the writers" Fucking perfect!

[@ThatGuy-jj3kz]

The writers are the villains for the show, but K.E.V.I.N. is also the villain for approving this incoherent, waste of time, insulting mess of a show. A smear on his "near perfect" record

[@marekjanik9962]

The real answer is the Americans

[@renatobauer2390]

Nerds like angry jou

[@kaiholeung903]

Can you give me the time stamps, I feel too cringe to watch the entire review.😵‍💫

[@vladthe3rd414]

@@marekjanik9962 you woke

[@treytison1444]

Jen saying she just wanted Emil to hold himself accountable was hilarious when she made multiple terrible decisions through the season and took no responsibility.

[@dennydude]

Was his responsibility not transforming? He gets 10 years for being a motivational speaker? His character was actually reformed and Jen has no problem sending a reformed person to jail? I felt bad for him.

[@blpalv15]

@@dennydude yeah, but he did get out.

[@Carlos-nz3vi]

Right, like when she threw that super car to Daredevil

[@Black-ICE92]

When she said that I’m like that’s bullshit

[@goreobsessed2308]

Hell she also broke her limiter she lucky she ain't the one spending 10 years in prison

[@Antjhart]

“Who is the villain of the show?” The writers. 💀

[@renatobauer2390]

The nerds of internet.

[@reallue]

@@renatobauer2390 troll bot 4,000

[@marcg210]

who is the villain of the show? Yes

[@josuepatino8179]

Literally

[@josuepatino8179]

@@renatobauer2390 Ohh of course they are son

[@Kragar01]

“I demand to speak to the manager” That’s the climax the series built to.

[@vernonhampton5863]

Dude, hand clap.

[@jamesmayle3787]

The Bible is truth. Please do these four steps. They have an accumulative healing effect on your soul and will open your spiritual eyes. Forgive your parents, break down before Jesus Christ, ask for forgiveness, and read Genesis Mathew and one book of the Bible you chose yourself. Please, I know it seems strange, but it is all true. You just need to be genuine. Open your heart. That’s what makes it all click. Especially the forgiveness part. To be forgiven we must forgive. Our parents have generally loved us. They’re supposed to be the easiest people to forgive. It shows something important to God if you do your inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Not forgiving is what keeps Go at arm’s length. Please trust me. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@sephiroth8517]

She-Karen

[@synchaos9141]

@@jamesmayle3787 at this point everyone gonna need some jesus

[@mahaffer71]

So in conclusion the fans were right. She hulk was as bad and sexist as every single one of them predicted.

[@Femalenun]

As someone else said: "The ending finale is Karen finally gets to talk to the manager."

[@Ioganstone]

The little boy can finally cry wolf! YAY NIHILISM

[@MrJulianSpecter]

Joe: "Who's the villain of the show?" Alex: "The writers" Great response. Fist bump.

[@SolidBold00]

My favorite part is how they continue to call out how stupid their choices are on the show and then proceed with the stupid choices anyway lol

[@yahyah797]

Yeah I don’t get it because it’s not even entertaining stupid or funny. It’s just completely stupid

[@Dravianpn02]

@@yahyah797 they're trying to be self aware and mask their mistakes with humor because in their echo chamber, that's what they all do because they can't take actual criticism and everyone just laughs WITH each other and no one is really corrected. This results in what you see.

[@draykohunter6805]

​@@Dravianpn02 lamp shading is a technique that many failed to utilize

[@josuepatino8179]

And they think they were being based or edgy but they only showed us how salty and butthurt they really were 😂.

[@WarmLusamine]

“What I’m doing is stupid, I know it’s stupid but I’m gonna do it anyway.” - Mr. Enter

[@Winchesterfilmmaker]

I find it funny that the finale was basically the writers calling out their lackluster writing. Being self-aware about your writing problems does not excuse those writing problems. Like what Joe said, if there is ever a second season (which I pray I hope doesn't happen), they need better writers and directors. Let's hope this means there's better writing from Phase 5 onwards.

[@nobody2996]

"I intentionally made 90% of the show bad so the last 10% can complain that those episodes were bad." "But if most of the show is bad, why would people watch it?" "No, no, no. The point... Is that it's bad on purpose." "Yeah. So it's still bad." "But we're aware that it's bad." "That doesn't make it being bad tolerable? In fact, that just makes it worse." "I don't think you're getting it." "I don't want to get it, it sucks."

[@uchihabomber1296]

That is basically what happened the writers being self aware that it’s bad which is very strange

[@psychoalpha2]

Can't salvage a turd

[@josuepatino8179]

And yet after all that there are still some people who dare calling male fans "pathetic" 🤡🤡🤡

[@Alpha___00]

Most likely there will be more She-Hulk and it’s “writers” will get more series. Because we really shouldn’t expect anything good from Disney.

[@OrangesodaTR]

This show has revolved around the writers inserting their own personal gripes and grievances into the script while ignoring the source material from the start. It's almost poignant that they would LITERALLY insert themselves into the season finale

[@damvid21]

Think of the levels of narcissism it takes to write yourselves into a show with absolutely no foundation whatsoever for doing so.

[@Nydas]

This was literally carbon copied from the source material. You incels are insufferably pathetic.

[@josuepatino8179]

@@damvid21 kinda like that Obama meme

[@gorcsauce696]

What if deadpool did it

[@xZero9Ox]

Is it the actual writers and not just actors?

[@nadav92]

“Who is the villain of the show?” “The writers” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tibedog5629]

I don't think I have ever seen AJ so speechless and just betrayed. He went so hard in hopes of just trying to enjoy this show from the start and just episode after episode it crushed him and broke him and now finally he's at a point where he's so dumbfounded and speechless in such a way that I have never seen any other franchise do to him. I can just feel his feeling of betrayal that the show didn't have his back like he tried at first to have its.

[@joshgamingvlogs5203]

That’s his own fault we’ve been trying to tell him that the show was irredeemable

[@Hunterese123]

@@joshgamingvlogs5203 but thats the point of the show, i keep hearing this from lovers of the show, it trolled us fans and we fell for it, it was bad n purpose and that is the brillance of it apparently

[@Revan-eb1wb]

@@Hunterese123 if that is supposed to be brilliant, then we should stop making movies and tv shows

[@dragonquest8ftw1]

@@joshgamingvlogs5203 Hey now, in all fairness to Joe, despite his trademark, he's always been one for giving the benefit of the doubt trying to see the good in something rather than always seeing the bad, I'll admit this show was a dumpster fire, but Joe gave it a fair chance which is more than what can be said for those that hadn't even bothered.

[@210rebelboy]

@@joshgamingvlogs5203 I think his opinion is mildly more valuable because he did try. He's doing a review, and the most honest way to do a review is to put personal feelings and expectations aside and give the show a fair shot. Though people can disagree with his opinion, they can't question his integrity.

[@morantNO1]

Can we acknowledge that this episode makes Jen the ultimate Karen? She does not like the situation she is in so she breaks reality to complain to the manager until she get what she "deserves".

[@toshtao1]

Like Deadpool? Oh wait, he's a man, nevermind.

[@MrHellweasel]

@@toshtao1 One is funny the other is not.

[@prof-eon]

@@toshtao1 Deadpool jokes about the plots of his movies, she legit broke out of her show to go talk to the writers and then went to their manager to make demands of changing the plot, these two things are very different

[@TheLastSane1]

@@MrHellweasel Look we get you see woman as property and not people but you need to seek counseling for your alt-right bullshit. She-Hulk 1 was doing fourth wall breaks LONG before Deadpool was a thing. 2. She literally said to the "Writers" what all the fans and viewers have been saying for literal years. So you are just complaining that the show took the hot air out of your sails so you have nothing to complain about.

[@TheLastSane1]

No, because she literally just broke down what the fans have been saying for a couple of years now and being the original character who can break the fourth wall (and yes she did it well before Deadpool was a thing) it makes sense for HER character to notice those complaints. And given that she has literally in the comics done the aside to the writers its actually SOURCE ACCURATE for her to do that. And yes in the comics she has done that many times, fuck half her cases in the comics uses the comics to get people off from being accused. Literally use a specific MARVEL comic to clear her clients name. But you lot are kinda pathetic and if its a woman doing it, its suddenly bad. Your mothers must hate you.

[@Streggae9961]

Critical Drinker summed this show up perfectly. The writers weren't trying to make a Superhero show they wanted to make a breezy comedy about a female lawyer trying to make it in a 'man's world' and that most of the plot points in the show are just a projection of their hang-ups and insecurities as 30 something middle class southern Californian women.

[@CGCentralHD]

I mean yall getting mad at the show for the exact thing they're doing kinda proves its point abit tho doesn't it? Even the whole 4th wall breaking is ironic

[@devildolphin2102]

@@CGCentralHD So us being mad that the show is “Intentionally” Burning dogshite, means that we are wrong. Dude the Show is bad just admit it.

[@CGCentralHD]

@@devildolphin2102 was reffering to show itself just what was being said as far as 4th wall breaks go

[@CGCentralHD]

@@devildolphin2102 also never said the show was great lol

[@famousthaneus9810]

The thing is, there's a way to make that work though. The writers just straight up weren't able to execute it well

[@SpookyKid_SpaceAce]

My freinds and I literally had to pause the show when Hulk's son showed up because we were laughing so hard. I was in tears. My eyes still sting. That's how hard I was laughing. We laughed for a solid 10 minutes before we mustered up the courage to continue watching. I did not think this show could possibly get any worse, yet somehow they managed to do it. This show is unbelievably bad, and i'm terrified for Marvel in the future

[@geefee713]

Did everyone stand up and clap?

[@makutas-v261]

Bro told his barber "just fuck me up"

[@Sn0w_Official]

@@makutas-v261 Man got hit with the, "I like yo cut G."

[@johnnypopstar]

> I was in tears. My eyes still sting. That's how hard I was laughing. r/thatHappened, you psychopath

[@jamesmayle3787]

The Bible is truth. Please do these four steps. They have an accumulative healing effect on your soul and will open your spiritual eyes. Forgive your parents, break down before Jesus Christ, ask for forgiveness, and read Genesis Mathew and one book of the Bible you chose yourself. Please, I know it seems strange, but it is all true. You just need to be genuine. Open your heart. That’s what makes it all click. Especially the forgiveness part. To be forgiven we must forgive. Our parents have generally loved us. They’re supposed to be the easiest people to forgive. It shows something important to God if you do your inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Not forgiving is what keeps Go at arm’s length. Please trust me. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@homas1o1]

I think what made the last episode so bad was that the 4th wall break ultimately absolved her of learning any lessons or developing as a character at all. Bruce tries to reach her balance and calming techniques in the first episode only to have her invalidate his experiences as her own are SO much more significant. She then goes on a hulk rampage in the previous episode and instead of suffering for her actions, learning from her mistakes and growing as a person, she just 4th wall breaks herself into a win

[@Orokovet]

that doesn't make any sense. the entire point of the 4th wall break was a visual representation of jumping the hurtle of her character arc that she's been too stubborn to do the whole show. Usually in the comics She-hulks main villain or conflict is the story being told, having her always have to physically talk to the creators of character or the writer of the comic themselves disputing with logistics at the source of the problem what needs to be resolved. her fighting away all of the physical bad guys in the scene would've been a complete waste of the episode considering that her biggest strength has always been omnipotence and perception of self.

[@ALEXACEDEATH]

EXACTLY!! I'd say that most of this show is just fighting itself over what it's identity actually is. I think at the beginning they planned it out as a classic law show with some super hero hijinks sprinkled in, kind of like a family friendly Netflix Daredevil, but the show itself got mired between; future MCU plans and references, the meta-commentary and a feminist direction, just wrecked the show and made it confusing and ridiculously messy. I think Tatiana is a good pick for the character, but is constantly being held back by a ridiculous amount of B-plots, that the writers had no idea how to deal with. Disney knows people love Abomination, Wong and Daredevil but just throw them in as if they were checking items off a list. In an ideal world this show would've been a classic 2 hour super-hero movie, sum up the first episode in 20 minutes followed by Jen failing to have a normal life and ultimately fusing her Jen and she-hulk personas, just being a sassy fun lawyer while taking down bad guy's from time to time. This show has the same issue the Supergirl show has with Superman, where they're literally just riding the coat tails of their more iconic counterpart.

[@rangerofalinos]

Such a crap take. She lost her job, her ability to transform, had to move back in with her parents. Her hulk out in the last episode was controlled as hell, anyone who could have smashed that screen rather than have someone see their sextape would do so. There's also a hilarious irony that if she had smashed through a wall to detain a bad guy you'd praise the hulkness of it all. Where an out of control Hulk would have just straight up merced the dude last episode, she grabbed him, saw that the world around her was not condoning her actions and stopped. Like we saw Hulk attack Widow on the helicarrier when he lost it, and she probably only survived because of who she is and Thor intervening. She would have learnt nothing as a character if she just then beat up all the badguys after finding them at the end. It was always going to be pursuing it legally, which is why when she jumps the fourth wall the story changes. Fighting the characters would have actually been a terrible conclusion to that arc because It would reinforce the idea that hulk smashing the bad guys is the way to get things done. Which conveniently is the exact thing your ragging on her for having done. Because at one point she made a comment about how she controls her anger more than Bruce does. (That incident with Widow happened 5 years post transformation, where he hid from the world because he couldn't manage himself) If She-hulk had the anger problems of hulk, when attacked in the street those guys would be dead, when her car got ruined at Emil's she would have beat the crap out of them. And instead of getting angry about the big fight and beating everyone up and then turning them over to the cops afterwards she instead said "Wait this is stupid" and took a path that allowed her to play to Jen's strengths with She-Hulk providing muscle protection. You might not like it, but it did a far better job of letting Jen be Jen than any fight would have. (And if there wasn't a fight or event like this, you'd still be complaining)

[@-Trauma.]

@@rangerofalinos What did she learn as a character?

[@TheRiisingSun]

@@rangerofalinos "She lost her job, her ability to transform, had to move back in with her parents." in TEN minutes worth of the show and then they moved on. She super learned a lesson here X_x

[@ThePiachu]

The worst part about the finale is that with the 4th wall break you don't know what really happened after the changes. Did the guy turn into the Abomination? Did the guy steal She-Hulk's blood? Did She-Hulk get put in jail for assaulting people and getting the ankle monitor so she can't turn into She-Hulk? Did she violate the parole by turning into She-Hulk? How did the guy survive the 'lethal dose of gamma radiation that the Banners have a genetic mutation against'? Like, what even was real in the end?

[@expressrobkill]

No she retconned it. I thought that was pretty obvious. Guy that shamed her got arrested and then she was absolved of her crimes, look its dumb, just like the entire series. And as a she hulk fan its annoying but who cares its a badly written show it wont get good ratings. No point complaining about it.

[@Chuppa75]

She pulled a Karen.

[@budgiecat9039]

@@expressrobkill "no point in complaining" is probably right lol. The more people complain, the more MCU doubles down thinking theyre in the right and continueto make dumb shit. They actually turned the critics into villains in this show, then they ironically turned themselves (the writers) into villains, then even more ironically, had Jen, the indirect mouthpiece of the writers (until she faced them) talk about how bad the MCU has become and they shitted on the classic characters and Kevin Feige himself. Wtf happened here lmao

[@davidalpeter9963]

@@expressrobkill why are you all acting like she murdered 1,000s of children... she broke some flat screens and stopped some dude clearly dressed as a bad guy for a few seconds. What do you want, her to do a 5 year stint in prison for that?

[@phillyphilly_lii6441]

@@expressrobkill but she LITERALLY slept with a dude that stole her blood and ghosted her. Did that not happen now? Lmao But let’s just film a bunch of stuff, then at the end say, we duck, and that’s the point! So if you hate it because we wanted you to have it we hate you! Makes TOTAL SENSE🤦

[@tubguinace]

I was sure they'd make Jen apologize to Bruce because he was right the whole time, she can't control her anger. I thought her whole arc would be she learns to accept her hulk powers and get a slice of humble pie, letting Bruce train her like she should have from the start. But no, in the end it was just, everything needs to revolve around her, even if she has to literally bend her reality for things to go her way.

[@supraaznpride]

I mean it is her show, why wouldn't it revolve around her? Which show did you think you were watching?

[@tubguinace]

@@supraaznpride By "revolve around her" I mean that everything has to be perfect for her, she doesn't have to apologize for anything or deal with the consequences of her actions. Everything bad that happens to her is framed as not her fault. Even in the end, they let her off the hook for destroying private property and putting a whole audience of people in danger just because the reason she got angry was justified. As if Bruce didn't get in severe trouble for getting angry for legitimate reasons. And it's not like they didn't know the reason she got angry was legitimate from the start. What changed? She caught the guy who triggered her anger, cool, so what? She still put people in danger. The world has to bend over to make her happy ending, she doesn't really learn anything, there is no arc other than her ending up liking her Hulk powers, but there's no growth beyond that.

[@supraaznpride]

@@tubguinace Well the tone of the show was a lighter one on purpose so of course the reactions to her hulking out ain't quite on the same level as the Norton hulk with him fighting against the military and destroying whole cities. Plus in this universe now, powerful beings are dime a dozen and half the population can die at anytime anyways. But it's mostly the tone of the show, which is sillier than any marvel stuff before it. If they were going for a dramatic action show sure they would've sent in the US army for her and she would've learned her lesson the blood and guts way. Jen's character felt more relatable as a reluctant hero all the way to the end. Should she have suffer a major lost and sacrafice at the end with an epic battle and really learn how to be a real hero just like the hulk? I mean if it was trying to do that, but I don't think they did so it then comes down to if you think the MCU is so sacred that it can't deviate from the formula at all. If you're on that camp then yeah She-Hulk is like what the f are they doing? But if you enjoy the fun silly stuff and relieved that after 20 years of the same-ish stuff they can take things not so seriously then there are little problems with the show itself. It's not perfect even in that regard, but if you try to watch the She-Hulk as if it were any other Marvel property you can find TONS of things that are wrong.

[@gunkid6368]

just like in the comic book named after her and about her

[@OmegaZyion]

@@supraaznpride If you want your characters to be relatable to the audience, you don't make everything revolve around them. Relatable characters react to the world around them much like how we react to the world around us. If you make it so that it is the other way around where the world is reacting to the character, it become completely unrealistic to the viewer and makes it impossible for anyone to relate to the character because in reality the world does not revolve around us.

[@Sabata101]

So watched it last night and kind of realized something this morning. So intelligentsia thinks that everything was handed to Jen and that’s why they’re out to get her, but her and her friends are saying “No it’s not like that”. But how Jen solves the finale is her getting basically everything handed to her after using what is in a sense sort of the basic concept that keeps a massive franchise going. I don’t think the writers thought that through.

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

Omg your right? The show is trying to make intelligentsia look like a group of complaining A holes. But they are entirely right? Jesus christ I can't believe this show.

[@TheMsLourdes]

No Intelligencia is after her is because she is a woman who got powers and they don't like a woman with power. And she didn't get anything handed to her at the end, she argued her point well and convinced K.E.V.I.N. through a cogent and logical argument. I feel like we weren't watching the same show @Nathan Smith... I mean we were, but perspective matters me thinks.

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

@@TheMsLourdes they literally said she did nothing to earn her powers. And you say she deserved her ending because she argued her point well? Jesus christ your a total sheep she nearly killed a guy and destroyed public property and was put on probation. Abomination used his powers and gets sent back to jail for 10 years. However she hulk not only escapes all responsibility for her actions she is praised escapes jail time and gets her job back. How does that makes sense and how is that fair to Abomination?

[@waifuhunter9709]

@@TheMsLourdes i agree Perspective does matter. It also helps for flexibility when a person tries to bend over for a bilionare company

[@jamesmayle3787]

The Bible is truth. Please do these four steps. They have an accumulative healing effect on your soul and will open your spiritual eyes. Forgive your parents, break down before Jesus Christ, ask for forgiveness, and read Genesis Mathew and one book of the Bible you chose yourself. Please, I know it seems strange, but it is all true. You just need to be genuine. Open your heart. That’s what makes it all click. Especially the forgiveness part. To be forgiven we must forgive. Our parents have generally loved us. They’re supposed to be the easiest people to forgive. It shows something important to God if you do your inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Not forgiving is what keeps Go at arm’s length. Please trust me. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@throwacnt7603]

On the plus side that scene with the writers is a perfect blacklist of people not to hire for your shows in the future.

[@nightbandit1260]

It's Hollywood. They won't care

[@themadknight5678]

Fer real

[@PeterParker-ff7ub]

they didnt need that to know which people to avoid

[@Mr.PR2000]

In current Hollywood being a bad writer/activist means you are good.

[@azariyelvarro6271]

@@Mr.PR2000 a bit of a false equivalence to connect being an activitist in and of itself to being a bad writer. Captain America for example was basically an activist call by its writers for America to get up and punch Hitler in the face instead of staying neutral like they were at the time. Now people who try to shoehorn activist messages into their writing without proper meshing it into the story or characters and taking care to ensure that it actually work (on any side of the political spectrum or regarding any issue). Prioritizing the moral/product over everything else is what gets you shit like that one meme worthy Pepsi ad. All in all, it's completely possible to be an activist who goes to something like a climate rally or a pro-hong kong/Ukraine, Iranian people/whatever rally and still be a good writer. It's even possible to put activism into your stories and have it be good if you actually mix it in with the proper care and attention to detail. Unfortunately, alot of hack writers are the story telling equivalent of a baker who throws an egg into a bowl of flower, pours a cup of sugar on top, and expects you to Marvel over the 'cake' they've just created.

[@trlavtf5828]

This show progressed Joe through several stages of grief, from Angry Joe > Bargaining Joe > Depressed Joe

[@DarkDodgers]

You forgot acceptance. He accepts that this show is garbage :)

[@Vulgarth1]

The only reason they broke the fourth wall so hard in this episode, is because they already broke the other three walls and all the load-bearing pillars.

[@treytison1444]

They did it because the writers had no idea what to do

[@CrimsonFIame]

The fact that Twitter likes it is even more proof this finale was horrendous

[@vietimports]

so the ajs's job is to watch the show. what's your excuse?

[@clos24]

Twitter? Nah just mcu fan boys that like cotton candy bs so most of Joe's fan base to be honest.

[@Jones-ke6bt]

​@@vietimports he never said he watched the show. maybe he's looks up clips on youtube. or watches reviews so he doesn't have to lose brain cells.

[@GrooveStreetss]

@@vietimports You don't need to watch the series all the way through to know it's garbage at this point

[@MarkHarrison-bo3kf]

Those are just idiots who know the actual comic. Smart people who never read the comic hate the show.

[@aprilhippie8752]

Joe’s face at the start says it all 🤣🤣 There is no force in the entire universe that is as CRINGE as this finale was.

[@jamesmayle3787]

The Bible is truth. Please do these four steps. They have an accumulative healing effect on your soul and will open your spiritual eyes. Forgive your parents, break down before Jesus Christ, ask for forgiveness, and read Genesis Mathew and one book of the Bible you chose yourself. Please, I know it seems strange, but it is all true. You just need to be genuine. Open your heart. That’s what makes it all click. Especially the forgiveness part. To be forgiven we must forgive. Our parents have generally loved us. They’re supposed to be the easiest people to forgive. It shows something important to God if you do your inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Not forgiving is what keeps Go at arm’s length. Please trust me. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

This episode is proof that just because you can do meta commentary doesn't mean you should. Especially if you're a writer that's not good at writing comedy....or anything good in general.

[@MarkHarrison-bo3kf]

Yeah, the show needed more dragons and incest!

[@AndreNitroX]

Well said

[@luism2754]

Even Abed new that you can't go too meta. There is a limit to how meta you can be

[@kingexplosionmurder3764]

Meta humor is fine up until it breaks your investment in a show.

[@summer7603]

Not everyone can be Deadpool She hulk in the comics did it but not anymore Disney rejects ruin characters for their ego boosts

[@MsOpportunity68]

This seems to be a case of the writers trolling the fans who they see as toxic because they dare to criticize them.

[@Bilbo_191]

The marvel fans are toxic, they are literally talking about the fans that exist

[@Bilbo_191]

@AnonymousNoname they definitely will

[@ash072]

@AnonymousNoname Feige signs off on everything. He knew what the show was and green lit it. They will work again.

[@mstrikesback168]

Thou shalt not question or criticize those that rule over you or else! Just look at Kayne.

[@NeroLeMorte]

So hollywood in a nutshell.

[@Thleepricon]

I love how they wrote as a plot point in the finale that the writing and character choices during 8 episodes were done intentionally bad so they could have the climax be a cluster of bad choices so that she-hulk can break the 4th wall and fix it, like a get out of jail free card for them not knowing how to write the character or what to do with it, but instead they just made nothing matter except a few minutes at the end of the entire series

[@yahyah797]

The idea was creative but should’ve happened like in the 2nd or 3rd episode, like you said they just used it as a get out of jail free card instead of it being a funny or meta 4th wall break. It was just stupid and them excusing terrible writing is what it felt like. Felt like they knew the show sucked but didn’t have time to fix it so they smacked this on at the end as a “haha we did it on purpose!”

[@alexdasliebe5391]

“Every minute you’ve spent was a meaningless nonsensical waste of time, join us for season 2!”

[@Revan-eb1wb]

@@yahyah797 the idea was creative??? What? Lol

[@Nomadic_Gaming]

@@Revan-eb1wb this episode was a “own” to “the trolls and haters” and just became an effigy to their own wokist shitbaggery and how fucking shit they are theres nothing meta about this its something they did late into people giving reactions to the series becausw they are fart huffing snowflake loons the series could of been glossed over or just forgotten or maybe salvaged later w mcu tie in or next season w dif writers but this last episode was an insult to everyone and admittance they hate the character and fans

[@Revan-eb1wb]

@@Nomadic_Gaming the show is embarrassing in every way. And by the way, you hit the nail on the head

[@awhbr1]

The best character arc of this show is the joes and alex going from giving the show a chance and arguing with people that said it would suck and it pissed on men to agreing with them

[@Fettman89]

True character growth lol, Alex's takes are usually on point though.

[@mahaffer71]

So in conclusion the fans were right. She hulk was as bad and sexist as every single one of them predicted.

[@QuietRage]

To be fair a lot of genuine weirdo's were giving them unconstructive and unhelpful "criticism" at the time. Some people unironically argued that this show could never be good because it starred a woman in the main role. Whenever or not those people were plants from Disney to make the actual criticism seem less legit by association is a topic for another day, (we know from Sony that corporations aren't above that) but I appreciate that these guys didn't immediately assume the worst and were willing to give it a fair shake, when they eventually conclude that its trash, it gives us a paper trail of reasonable fans rejecting this drivel because its pandering, poorly written drivel.

[@Hecatom]

@@QuietRage the problem is that AJ lumped all the negative comments into the same bunch. Just look how AJ was facepalming on this vid when he realized that he did exactly what Alex is saying that tje writers were doing, calling ever critic an Incel, and other shit like that. There were more people pointing valid criticism in the comments than tbe "weirdos". The show laid its cards from even before it premiered. Giving it a chance was a fools errand.

[@refugeehugsforfree4151]

@@Hecatom He will do the same for the Acolyte and The Marvels. Watch.

[@PhilHug1]

What does every character is this show (especially Jen's friend) come off like a cartoon character? Matt Murdock felt like the most real person of the entire show

[@numberoftheword]

Because it is a live action cartoon, it's deliberate, in fact the show would have improved if it was animated.

[@Phanthief95]

Or maybe, and hear me out on this, it’s a live action version of a comic book.

[@renemartinez3451]

@@Phanthief95 Have you read any good comics in the past few decades? They're far more fleshed out and "real" than any of the characters presented in this live-action show. Most good comics will know when to turn down the goofiness for balanced storytelling. Even the She-Hulk run that this series is "inspired by" knew when to tone down its comedy for character growth or conflict. Instead of regurgitating excuses for a billion-dollar corporation's vanity projects, maybe educate yourself and read the source material you claim to be a fan of.

[@Jesse_aM21]

@@Phanthief95 or maybe, and hear me out on this, it’s a garbage version of a live action version of a comic book.

[@LTV746]

@@numberoftheword He had more vision than the writers

[@Fungster117]

The best character ark was seeing Joe come to realize we were right.

[@tomfoolery7797]

Honestly I kinda wished we weren't, I was hoping the first episode would be the worse one and they would actually give proper character development like Joe thought they would do.

[@JahlisMan]

@@tomfoolery7797 yeah, 'cause that's what a show's supposed to do. even in sitcoms there's room for character growth. but nah, that's... sexist to them, I guess? saying a female character is flawed and should learn something, I mean. I've been off Twitter for 2 years, but I bet there's arguments like that.

[@ignis2023]

Slight correction, "Right for the wrong reasons."

[@NeroLeMorte]

We were always right he's just too busy smelling his own farts not to see it. Now he got proven wrong as usual. Nothing new rinse and repeat.

[@tomcoop9750]

@@ignis2023 nope. We were right because we saw the misandry from episode 1. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@lacanidjion]

Alex was the voice of reason through the entire series.

[@WhitneyAllisonGG]

Agreed wholeheartedly

[@caseybrown9054]

He had the best take on the show overall.

[@garrettviewegh677]

He’s usually the more critical one on the group when it comes to reviewing films and video games, and that can be refreshing compared to Joe’s straightforward take on some franchises. They all bring different views to a review.

[@bobbye7353]

Sober Mouth Joe has high enough estrogen that he was actually able to enjoy the show.

[@jacob4920]

Which is funny, because I usually hate that Alex is so "brutal" toward shows that I actually think are good. But this time around, I was actually looking forward to him tearing this show a new a$$hole.

[@charlesbedford7201]

The whole show is a self insert for the writers until they literally insert themselves into the final episode. Everyone had this right when they said it was going to be trash, and that it is exactly what it turned out to be

[@WannabeWryter]

Haters gonna Hate, I found it funny, She hulk used to talk to her writers about the plots all the time in the comic books. If it was Deadpool you lot would find it "SO META 🤯 OMG" She-Hulk just the hate-flavor of the month.

[@mrj1299]

@@WannabeWryter Are you one of the shows writers? :D

[@johnstrife7]

@@WannabeWryter default clown 🤡 🤓

[@captain_malaria]

@@WannabeWryter I feel sorry for you and your caretakers.

[@Hinokami777]

@@WannabeWryter oh shutup you feminist literally the only reason you like it is cause it’s a female lead. That’s it. Please tell me what we’re the funny jokes ? I’ll wait. She’s a rip off of Bruce literally all her moves are derived of Bruce but as a sad excuse of it. She literally says “ she hulk smash “ and tries to mock his slogan lol ohhh I’m gonna copy what he does but add in “she” to remind every one I’m a woman and I do it better. She literally told Bruce she’s better than him the second she got powers. This show was set up as an attempt to replace the hulk… meanwhile all the fight scenes sucky he villains suck and are jokes. Bad fight choreography the highlight of the show was Daredevil lol. You’re Braid dead if you think the writing is good. Writing is so bad the writers made fun of themselves… as the finale. You can call us haters all you want I rather be that than a d-rider who is delusional

[@slavmagician2898]

I haven’t watched a single episode of she hulk but I’ve tuned in for every review just to see the pain in the lads eyes

[@quesokelso5425]

Nice, Lucky you, I haven’t seen the last episode and I don’t plan too.

[@SirDave1988]

Same 😂

[@emiliosanchez9406]

Lol 😂 i

[@tracycantrell3751]

I actually watched the first episode and have not watched the rest but have been watching the reviews for the exact same reason these reviews are definitely better than the actual show lmao

[@spycheck]

"I wanna speak to your manager!" That's what the climax built up to.

[@saiyaniam]

I've seen loads of feminists types loving the show, pretty sure it's made for that type of woman.

[@captbuckyohare5585]

@@saiyaniam Did they actually watch it though? Or are they just liking twitter clips and clapping along?

[@thebonk7138]

Instead of Shehulk I've been watching the AngryJoeShow and recently one of the main characters has gone through a huge character arc learning from his mistakes and being humbled. But also sort of apologizing and actually recompensing for his actions in earlier episodes. Honestly the writing here was done perfectly and had me laughing a bunch of times through out much of the AJS. 10/10 highly recommend 👌

[@draykohunter6805]

Self reflection, humility, growth? Blessed be, a human being🙏

[@functionatthejunction]

" learning from his mistakes and being humbled. " I dont know, Alex still seems kind of arrogant to me.

[@derbananenkonig4985]

@@functionatthejunction maybe because you don't agree with him? That doesn't mean he is arrogant

[@tehbeernerd]

Tune in next MCU show for another season of The Hamster of Disappointment!

[@NeroLeMorte]

Best redemption arc.

[@Did_No_Wrong]

I can not believe that She-hulk solved everything by breaking the 4th wall and acting like Karen.

[@jamesmayle3787]

The Bible is truth. Please do these four steps. They have an accumulative healing effect on your soul and will open your spiritual eyes. Forgive your parents, break down before Jesus Christ, ask for forgiveness, and read Genesis Mathew and one book of the Bible you chose yourself. Please, I know it seems strange, but it is all true. You just need to be genuine. Open your heart. That’s what makes it all click. Especially the forgiveness part. To be forgiven we must forgive. Our parents have generally loved us. They’re supposed to be the easiest people to forgive. It shows something important to God if you do your inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Not forgiving is what keeps Go at arm’s length. Please trust me. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@vicvinegar4540]

@@jamesmayle3787 🤡

[@valenwood6299]

Bruh these bible thumpers are going HARDDD these past couple of years.

[@katinahoodie]

you cant have a good character arc when your character is already perfect and isnt held accountable for anything.

[@Gonzora]

I already had this feeling while watching Captain Marvel. Yes Disney/Marvel, it's cool to make strong characters but you also have to make them endearing and fallible. Without that they don't even look human and if they can defeat everyone there's nothing interesting to tell.

[@OccamAsylum]

@@Gonzora people loved Cap because despite his strength, he was so human. He wanted more than he had and got way more than he bargained for.

[@shelbyvillerules9962]

That finale was literally just 30 minutes of those writers sniffing their own farts.

[@robotsaysbeebooboop]

They literally self inserted themselves

[@toshtao1]

Appreciate the vulgarity. Are you 7 years old?

[@robotsaysbeebooboop]

@@toshtao1 where's the vulgarity?

[@toshtao1]

@@robotsaysbeebooboop Look at the last word of the op comment stupid.

[@H2Zv1]

Perhaps we treated Ms Marvel too harshly.

[@brightenblack207]

If they filmed the entire last episode like the spoof, that would mean they wouldn't be doing CGI stuff. It would have to survive off of it's own writing merits. Wouldn't that have been awesome? To make it like a classic 80's show with lawyer elements? If only

[@puddingcatsteamboat6393]

as i said somewhere else doesn’t this ending actually troll the few fans they actually cultivated over this season who defended them and said it was well written, by having She-Hulk herself say it was written poorly all along? the writers love trolling so hard they trolled themselves.

[@Rally351]

It’s the ‘Funny Games’ or ‘Freddy got Fingered’ of the MCU, there really is no other way to explain it. It had to be a big middle finger to “Kevin.”

[@mittensfastpaw]

Ya, I liked some of the series but this was a piss off. They literally wrote the cringe into it on purpose for this ending. Dragged down the rest of it all… for this!

[@lopeshick9607]

Out of all the reasons I fell in love with the MCU as a kid, it attempting to school me on modern social commentary isn’t one of them. The idea of this show is so wildly uninteresting to me I haven’t even bothered to watch it. I guess it kinda sucks this is what they’re spending time and resources on but oh well I no longer care enough to be mad.

[@CGCentralHD]

I mean yeah they took jabs and joked about everyone even feigie himself

[@theJuicmanisbak]

When reviews are better than the actual show... and longer 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@rebel4466]

Being better than she show? Doesn't say a whole lot. Watching grass grow would be more interesting

[@MarkHarrison-bo3kf]

Yeah, I wish the show was longer too.

[@theJuicmanisbak]

@@rebel4466 they're both green, bet it'd be hard to notice a difference 👀

[@theJuicmanisbak]

@@MarkHarrison-bo3kf if it was an hour, that'd be approximately 270 extra hours of suffering. If I can be truthful, I only saw twerking, "infinitely better than you!", and the whole Daredevil episode... Enough to let me know this show is an actual waste of time.

[@jakemixd]

@@theJuicmanisbak I agree!

[@mingalinger]

I'm so glad you guys didn't like it. I've read so many good reviews for this episode and I thought I was going insane!!

[@Ko700el]

11/10 -ign

[@Phyrrax]

Now you know who the Marvel chills are and whose opinion you can avoid.

[@nishantshade668]

When I saw the finale and how people were praising the episode, even i thought that I am losing my mind but then to restore my sanity I watched the Incredible Hulk movie.

[@leecameron9226]

This final episode was good the problem is the rest of the show is garbage so it's feels so out of place because I actually laughed in this episode but something in me feels uncomfortable for enjoying it because it started to be funny in the last episode and actually kinda clever but everyone on that writing team should be fired embarrassing

[@MumboJumboZXC]

@@leecameron9226 the final episode is not good lmao. The only “good” thing is that it’s over

[@Anonymous38572]

The writers are exactly how I thought theyd be

[@Blaster00745]

This series literally broke me I can't even- They took everything they where building up and then blend it all into one huge piece of sh!t thus wasting all of our time it's Amazing 😂

[@joeparrigen4982]

It ruined my day because it pissed me off.

[@truefitness2622]

It's stunning and brave

[@mr.goodboi2780]

It literally destroyed the whole Marvel universe being in it's own thing. In maybe another show/universe, with like better characters, this would have been great, but this is the entire MCU. What a joke.

[@YouTubeChannel-iq5to]

Do you think other shows are more real than this one? Rofl

[@sourballs1248]

Why do you keep watching the shows and wasting your time when they consistently put out things that you don’t like

[@goodnesswhy]

And then there's Twitter where people are absolutely loving this ending...

[@deandredunbar9618]

I know right wtf. I keep seeing people talk about how awsome the ending was.

[@SaintPepsi57]

Twitter moment

[@ahmedkhanfar4314]

@@deandredunbar9618 well they can have opinions right?

[@cesarparedes6103]

Twitter is not a real place

[@65firered]

Do you think people on Twitter wouldn't take the opportunity to lie out their ass out of spite? They're clearly lying anyone who watched it knows that, which is par for the course on Twitter.

[@TheLoos3Goos33]

Ah yes, the writers were able to literally self-insert themselves. I'm sure they were very proud.

[@georgehernandez2156]

I was hyped when the show was announced. i was hoping for like a true origin story for she hulk, like what she was like before she transformed. How hulk saved her and the trauma of what Banner did to her by giving her the hulk form. but nooppe. it was everything i didnt i think it would be.

[@The_Sigillite]

No, but that would have involved the intrigue of the mobsters going after her, Jen proactively seeking justice for herself and others, and worst of all, Bruce having a character arc!

[@voidastralbirth]

I’m not mad she broke the 4th wall like that, cuz I’m sure she did that in the comics to some extent. ...i AM extremely mad with the way it played out.

[@65firered]

That's the ONLY thing about her character they took from the comics. She's pretty much the opposite in many aspects.

[@Dullsonic3]

Oh I did not expect the Astral Birth Void to be here. Hi!

[@Jack_Ss]

It’s a fun moment but the fact that it ACTUALLY CHANGED ruins the entire show even further. Because the rest of the show meant nothing if there were no actual consequences or stakes. The idea that she breaks the fourth wall and realizes that despite things being messy she needs to deal with them and work through them because sometimes life is tough and unfair could’ve been interesting. But instead they went the exact opposite route

[@Phanthief95]

To some extent? She always does it in the comics! Does no one in this comment section do a Google search? She’s been doing it longer than Deadpool has!

[@thebonk7138]

​@@Phanthief95 and look at the reception to Deadpool and the reception to shehulk and tell me with a straightface who is more of a beloved character and is actually funny.

[@blaster915]

The meta joke parodying the 70's hulk show was honestly the best thing they have done all season.

[@blaster915]

@@Ian-fy6lc you're not wrong

[@RGBeanie]

No! There is no good! Only tears!

[@-Zakhiel-]

Dangling keys...

[@_ripVanWinkle_]

It wasn't a joke or parody they deadass copied and pasted that original intro that's why it was great

[@-Zakhiel-]

@@_ripVanWinkle_ Let's call it a pastiche. Or an hommage.

[@theproceedings4050]

Fuck, I love Alex's take every time. It's just "this shit is fucking stupid as fuck don't watch it". He embodies my vitriol.

[@jamesmayle3787]

The Bible is truth. Please do these four steps. They have an accumulative healing effect on your soul and will open your spiritual eyes. Forgive your parents, break down before Jesus Christ, ask for forgiveness, and read Genesis Mathew and one book of the Bible you chose yourself. Please, I know it seems strange, but it is all true. You just need to be genuine. Open your heart. That’s what makes it all click. Especially the forgiveness part. To be forgiven we must forgive. Our parents have generally loved us. They’re supposed to be the easiest people to forgive. It shows something important to God if you do your inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Not forgiving is what keeps Go at arm’s length. Please trust me. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@mahaffer71]

So in conclusion the fans were right. She hulk was as bad and sexist as every single one of them predicted.

[@ssj4rit]

@@jamesmayle3787 no

[@elninoson5282]

The saddest part is what they confirmed the future of the MCU to be

[@SoldierSpiderx]

They really trolled us with that hulk vs abomination fight 🙄 and They could've at least gave skaar all his hair

[@skull2470]

they didn't even make him gray

[@ATthemusician]

He looks like he has his hair pulled back, after looking at it again

[@Username18981]

they gave him male pattern baldness

[@briankeys5941]

How can u get trolled by a show u don't even watch lol... wait, PLEASE tell me no one is ACTUALLY wasting their life on ANYTHING Disney has put out since before phase 3

[@SoldierSpiderx]

@@skull2470 that even worst

[@EzBreezy750]

I just love how Alex expressions are how you tell how bad it’s going to be

[@AndreNitroX]

Agreed love these guys

[@ThrghmyEyeZZ]

Or you can watch and form your own opinion

[@RatzCarnatz]

​@@ThrghmyEyeZZ sometimes it's better yea but most of the times reviews are helpful in helping you save your time, otherwise everyone would waste their time with every piece of shit movie or show ever

[@mrchrislero2288]

Alex: the villains of this show are the writers 😂😂😂 100%

[@TJ_ax]

“I don’t know how to finish this story, oh let’s play the fourth wall card and everyone will think I’m genius.” Really makes Captain Marvel look great by comparison.

[@MagumoKawasaki]

No. Captain marvel is still the worse. I honestly rather deal with She hulk then Captain Marvel. At least Jen Tries to be funny and likeable.. Captain Marvel is just boring and bad. I had one reaction with CM when I finished watching it. Wtf was that? At least with Jen I laughed a few times.

[@woodcutte330]

@@MagumoKawasaki are u guys refering to ms marvel or captain marvel?

[@MagumoKawasaki]

@@woodcutte330 Captin marvel, is horrible in the MCU. Ms marvel, is at least charming in her own fan girl way. Just sucks that she stans the worse Hero.

[@NetBattler]

@@MagumoKawasaki that is your opinion

[@shinkicker404]

This 4th wall break into the writers room joke could have worked, if it was in the 1st or 2nd episode, early in the season at the very least, especially if it did result in an uptick in the quality of the story. Like it would have been an incredible bait and switch. Get people setup for something, the character is like "Yeah no" goes and tells the writers to shape up or ship out, and boom we get something a bit more cohesive and fun, and not like... dunking on men and other things or that nature. Could even have had a recurring gag at the end of each episode where she is sitting in the writers room or something having a drink with them or with the 'actors' of the characters in her show.

[@210rebelboy]

It could've worked in the last episode if the rest of the season was really good, and the hodge podge of several storylines coming together in the end in a nonsensical way was entertaining and satisfying. It would work even better if Jen completed her growth by episode 8, so the hodge podge of storylines that would be resolved by a visit to the writers wouldn't appear to undermine that very growth. As of yet, it appears Jen hasn't had a significant arc, and some are saying the twist ending absolves her of having to grow or change at all. Instead, if by the end of the show Jen was more akin in personality to her comic book counterpart, the 4th wall break would've worked perfectly, because it would be in celebration of the source material rather than shitting on it to troll fans. It would be like "OK, the She-Hulk we all love is finally here." This is all my opinion of course, but I really think the idea isn't bad, it's the execution.

[@captbuckyohare5585]

Like if they did it right at the end of her rant at Bruce where she invalidates him, makes herself the ultimate victim, and then tells him he's a victim and his life is shit? See if she'd have stopped right there, blinked, shook her head and asked "Whoa... what the hell is wrong with these writers?" and went on her writer's room rampage and took the show in a different direction that could have been chef's kiss.

[@John_Locke_108]

It's like it was written by somebody who doesn't understand how to be meta. It's a fine line between clever and stupid.

[@210rebelboy]

@@captbuckyohare5585 couldn't agree with THIS more, now that I think about it.

[@210rebelboy]

@@John_Locke_108 I could hold up a sign that says "This sign is meta" and it would be more meta than this.

[@seamkeen8441]

There’s a certain type of self awareness that people should never stoop down to. The writers went further down

[@65firered]

@@EggEnjoyer Also, that's apparently the only thing they know about her character.

[@seamkeen8441]

@@65firered true

[@seamkeen8441]

@@EggEnjoyer self awareness is fine if it’s done in a subtle and moderately humble approach. But this just took it too far

[@teejayjayti9107]

I laughed more in the moments of silence in this review than the entire 9 episodes.

[@MrREAPERsz]

I haven't seen all of them cringe this much especially Joe.

[@jbmheat]

I loved this ending cause it’s over, the pain and suffering is over. Thank u she-hulk I’ll never forget u ❤

[@narusora1]

This ending has legitimately made me excited for WHATEVER marvel comes next. I need to wash the taste out of my mouth idc if its with toilet water at this point

[@norouziman8748]

@@narusora1 are you excited for the next marvel project because it's Black Panther 2 and as we all know if you're white you can't watch it thankfully for me I'm middle eastern so I'm not allowed to watch it I swear to God that's what's going to be said on twitter

[@narusora1]

@@norouziman8748 LMFAO im black. That movie is for marvel's strongest representation of blacks but it is open for everyone to watch and enjoy haha. Don't be discouraged!

[@norouziman8748]

@@narusora1 see I have this feeling just a feeling that the actress will pull a brie Larson and claim that the movie is for black people only and honestly if I could trust marvel to make good movies and shows then I would give it a try I managed to watch The Room without turning it off so that's saying something

[@narusora1]

@@norouziman8748 I feel you, they've made great movies before and black panther 2 looks promising; and lmfao that'll happen, I wouldn't give it any attention hahaa

[@DeltaDragon79]

If this is going to be the MCU now, I think I'll just quietly bow out.

[@SpideyfanX]

Same. I'm not sticking around, BUT I will watch the M-She-U burn in the dumpster fire and watch it go out with a whimper. No Way Home out of everything in Phase 4 (presumably), is the only thing that's considered Phase 3 in my eyes. After that, everything else is garbage.

[@ctbeard08]

Seeya.

[@arisenpai]

We all know you'll be back

[@ShapeshifterOS]

It’s been like this since End Game. You just now realize? It’s only going to get worse as they destroy more of the franchise.

[@damn6039]

You forgured it out now? This dumpster fire's been burning since endgame

[@jon131]

I think angry joe's redemption arc going through all of these review videos has been much more entertaining than the show itself.

[@rittis013]

He take the L and right the wrong, I gain my respect back for Joe

[@chasejackson7248]

This was one time the trolls were right

[@aarongothier2650]

I really wish they would have done an actual lawyer show where she had to use her knowledge of the law to defend heroes and beat the actual intelligencia

[@luhedi6303]

That would take talent.

[@draykohunter6805]

​@@luhedi6303 they'd have to know what laws are

[@mittensfastpaw]

This is what I wanted. Not the old fourth wall breaking comics but the competent lawyer she became in the comics. Then the later her Hulk powers going out of control in modern times. Wasted potential all over.

[@Fuzzycat16]

That would take actual writers.

[@zenmindgamer]

"The show itself has a message, but I don't think the message landed with this particular audience." She-Hulk tried so hard to say something that it ended up saying nothing. It's like when writing an essay your intro paragraph is meant to bring into focus the subject or theme you'll be discussing, so you state issues, concerns, and ideas. Then the thesis statement is written that binds all the issues together into a single, poignant point of address. She-Hulk spent its entire run time touching on issues, poking fun at them, and not taking itself too seriously (as I think part of the point in addressing toxicity?) that it ultimately never actually said anything about the themes it wanted to discuss. Shit just happens to characters, they react, and the episode cuts to credits. It wrote a bunch of fluff, but never made a point.

[@magvad6472]

When you don't understand what was said because you are shut off to it...doesn't mean nothing was said. You'd have to be actually fuckin stupid to say the show didn't make a point. She Hulk gets put into a marvel plotting machine, the show symbolically positions what She Hulk represents as it pertains to the female leads relationship with rage and how society percieves feminine anger, and then from that position the finale unpacks how the Marvel machine is unable to pay off the themes of the show BECAUSE of the tropes within Marvel's traditional plot structure. And like EVERY fuckin Marvel property before it...the deep themes do not pay off because Marvel needs you to have a baddy to beat up and She Hulk stops it...and then says it's not about the villains, the incels and mysoginist commentators on the internet, it is about her and how society percieves her. It shouldn't be about THEM...but due to Marvel's trope structure it cannot resolve without being about them being wrong and not simply tell a story about She Hulk. The show is about how Marvel cannot present deep themes precisely because of its limited tools to tell stories. She Hulk as a CHARACTER has always been meta and why ANYONE would fuckin rage in such as childish way as Alex did is TELLING about how deeply unequipped schools are in giving children media literacy. But no, ya'll are too fueled with rage to even provide the patience to meet the show on its own terms...probably because ya'll have internalized mysoginy but are too fuckin stupid to even know what that is or how it manifests and be too busy making yourself the victim of feminism to see what you may be doing wrong in all this. But I'll just get raged at by 14 year old brain grown ass men who feel attacked and belittled and just somehow pivot how the show is just "dumb" but conveniently lack the tools to enumerate why other than subjective baseless value framing. The shit take machine of the internet keeps on turning and even when the show POINTS IT OUT ya'll just literally prove the show right.

[@zenmindgamer]

@@magvad6472 Yeah, that's not it, chief.

[@magvad6472]

@@zenmindgamer then "what is it, chief"....because it seems like it might just be going over your head and if you admit it's something as basic as what I said you might be coming off like a liar or someone who can't read basic themes.

[@zenmindgamer]

@@magvad6472 Honestly, I think you totally didn't understand the essay analogy. I didn't say there are no themes in "She-Hulk"; the themes that are there simply go nowhere. So this will be my last long-form reply unless you have something intelligible to say, like what themes you thought were complex and thoroughly explored. Overall, I'd say "She-Hulk" is about self-agency. There's not an episode that goes by where people aren't restricting Jen because of who she is, what she is, and what her career is, and she gets shoehorned into a lot of roles that are beyond her choice: she's turned into a Hulk by accident, she's fired from her job for doing the right thing and unceremoniously put in charge of what's essentially a freak-show department at her new firm, and she's constantly undercut by guys in her sex life who are into She-Hulk but not Jen. The first episode sets up this conflict of recognizing agency when Bruce tells Jen that she'll need to be responsible for her anger, to which she blows up that she, and women like her, are already masters of their anger because they need to measure their interactions on a daily basis. The show had an excellent theme established right there that could have been explored as Jen not having that level of agency she believed she already did. There's a lot going on that tries to challenge her agency throughout the season, but then doesn't follow-up with any consequences with those sequences that challenge her. At her friend's wedding Jen is told not to transform into She-Hulk because it will ruin the bride's day, the bride herself is an absolute monster whose toxic behavior causes employees to quit so she dumps clean-up duty onto Jen, further attacking Jen's agency. When Jen finally does transform Jen doesn't call out her friend's toxic behavior and there's no penalty on her friend's behavior - if anything she's rewarded as she gets to claim being buddies with She-Hulk. Then we have Jen undercutting her own agency and lamenting about it. If "She-Hulk" is about self-expression and self-agency then those themes are undercut by Jen's dating life. Jen constantly complains that she can't get a man to be committed to her, though advertises her profile like an easy sale for a one-night stand. If "She-Hulk" truly wanted to say something groundbreaking they could have let her be a horny player, but acting like one and chasing after men for a sense of fulfillment directly contradicts her self-agency that the show is trying to establish. There is absolutely nothing wrong about a woman who enjoys playing the field, but don't double-back on that behavior by having the main character act shocked she can't find a guy who wants to commit to her. Unironically, my favorite episode is actually the therapy retreat. This is the closest Jen gets to realizing that she's been letting other people control her agency and undercut her sense of authority over her life and desires. It's honestly a great episode for anybody who does get hung-up on people easily that they need to remember that we aren't defined by the people in our lives, but that they are companions. I honestly didn't expect Emil Blonsky/Abomination to have genuinely insightful wisdom. This episode is the closest that "She-Hulk" gets to stating a thesis statement that ties together the rest of Jen's experiences thus far. However, this is undercut in the finale, and Emil Blonsky himself no less, when Emil is acting as a motivational speaker to an incel group. Abomination, the dude whose entire message is about taking responsibility for one's actions and not letting the world project or define your role in it, is whipping up these incels to recognize their problems stem externally and to rectify that. Jen's own development arc is thrown out the window as she defaults to the know-it-all attitude she showed with Bruce in episode one as she confronts K.E.V.I.N. What we do agree on is that if the finale had resulted in a massive battle it would have played exactly against the themes, because it's forcing Jen to act as a fighter, however even this would have been a better ending because we see Jen clearly distraught that she's no longer allowed to become She-Hulk so this is a statement of her choosing that power, choosing that agency. As the lawyer I genuinely wanted Jen to take Intelligencia down the legal route, but all that is thrown out by a lowering of the curtain and a new set reveal. Jen goes on having gotten her way in every single thread the finale setup, but without actually having done the work to make it so. One can say that happened behind the scenes when Marvel fixed the show's conclusion, which I get is the meta of the 4th wall, but to have so sloppily handled the context of the theme up to this point "She-Hulk" could have benefitted from an episode with some actual sleuthing.

[@user-ms5tq1dh7i]

@@zenmindgamer bro, appreciate the work, beautiful essay, but you made 1 HORRENDOUS mistake by thinking that these defenders can even read.

[@zachtemoro2116]

Just take a second to realize that the writers thought it was a good idea to mock the trope of “stealing the hero’s blood to gain superpowers” and called it lazy writing …. But completely forgot that’s EXACTLY how Jen got hers

[@alvin2021]

I think this is a team of writers who all are too scared to tell anyone else if they have a a bad idea, it's like every bad idea and bad joke was congratulated as to not upset anyone.

[@INK-MONO]

She didn’t steal Hulk’s blood it was an accident… Also The Leader tries to steal Hulk’s blood all the time so it is already generic

[@Edax_Royeaux]

I don't remember Jen stealing Hulk's blood, when did that happen?

[@Vulgarth1]

@@Edax_Royeaux Right at the start when she crashes the car.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@Vulgarth1 I don't recall her stealing Hulk's blood when she crashes the car, how exactly did she commit the theft?

[@some1namedno1]

If this whole fourth wall break and changing the storyline had happened in the second or third episode it could have been really good. For example, when the Wrecking Crew shows up and tries to take her blood Jen could have turned to the audience and said "Seriously? Another 'villain steals the hero's powers and creates another version of them' plot? No. Not in my show."

[@KibaAzure]

Pretty much exactly how I felt about it. It wasn't the meta breaking, its the completely unsatisfying ending that ruins every plot point the show had.

[@wolflordbradley7353]

What plot points, no fr??

[@summer7603]

@@wolflordbradley7353 exactly

[@yamadiyoo9658]

The only hope is that when K.EV.I.N. was rewriting everything for She-Hulk he did somethings that she didn't ask for like not dropping the Hulk Blood story and instead added it as some kind of reason for a mutation for The Leader in the upcoming Captain America Movie New World Order.

[@raidengoodman8754]

Well, wasn’t much plot to begin with

[@PineappleBaconPizza]

Plot? Where? I can't see any plot within 5000 miles of this show

[@DeverHB]

Joe having hope for this show and then getting this is just heartbreaking lol.

[@john_squatson]

I wonder if he still stands by his shit opinions of earlier episodes

[@johnnypopstar]

Or from an alternate POV, Joe starting out as a normal boy but then letting the Barrage Of The Incels get to him from the comment section every week, now *that* is heartbreaking

[@john_squatson]

@@johnnypopstar oh you mean people that were absolutely right?

[@johnnypopstar]

@@john_squatson no, because they weren't. It's only this manosphere crowd that hate this show this much.

[@john_squatson]

@@johnnypopstar sure, sure... I'm sure everybody else just loves it

[@CookingwithDave.]

Didn't watch a single second of this show but have been here for every review and I feel like that was time much better spent.

[@ThrghmyEyeZZ]

Or you could watch the show and form your own opinion

[@uchihabomber1296]

@@ThrghmyEyeZZ A lot of She Hulk haters don’t know what that is for some reason. So they just learn from reviewers for every thought on the show

[@CookingwithDave.]

@@ThrghmyEyeZZ nah

[@Ouroboross-]

Yeah I’m not interested in watching this garbage either.

[@cortesacrawford]

The daredevil part was mostly good. Not Daredevil in ep 9, that was stupid. Ep 8 Daredevil.

[@obie-1309]

The mark of a bad writer? Saying the quote, "But it'll be unexpected and subvert the audience's expectations!" 😁👍 The minute I heard one of the writers say that during that writer's room scene, I was like, "Yeah...that explains it all." Let me tell you right now, if you want to be a writer, that is the WORST advice to follow. Subverting expectations doesn't mean be random! And that is EXACTLY what this show was as a whole. RANDOM. Things happen, just because! Nothing connects! Nothing was achieved! Almost none of the characters are likeable! And nobody, and I mean NOBODY, NOT A SINGLE CHARACTER had an ARC! No one grew! No one learned anything! Much less the show's lead. Worse still, there's a line where Jen states that things like plot don't matter, only story does (in this case Jen's story and growth). That is NOT TRUE! Where did whoever wrote this go to school?! You CANNOT have story without a plot! You need both otherwise the story doesn't work! It's like saying that the human body can live with only a heart but no brain or a brain but no heart. You NEED both there to function! What's even dumber too, is that Jen says this but neither she nor others have a story because no one has an arc. Jen doesn't have an arc, she's the same person she was when the show started. Okay, does she at least influence everyone else leading to a change in others? You know, akin to say Goku from Dragon Ball where he doesn't change, but he causes a positive change in others or like Paddington bear, where he positively influences others around him as well. Nope! Pug, Nikki, Bruce, Daredevil, Ms. Book (the other lawyer lady), Titania, Emil, Wong, hell the writers even, does anyone in Jen's circle change or grow as people? NO! They're all the same character they were when the show started. (Okay, Pug sort of changed, but not because of Jen or anything, I guess they just changed him willy nilly as they needed him). No, forget the man hating stuff (that stuff was expected out of this show). This show is simply awful because it's horribly written. How these talentless, unclever, uncreative hacks managed to get work is beyond me!

[@kotlolish]

Agreed subverting expectations is not a terrible thing in reality if done well. But subvert for subverting sakes is bad. it's like putting in a plot twist for plot twist sakes.(Hey Shamalan) If you want to put in a twist or subversion you gotta either put in SUBTLE HINTS or such things. It takes alot of talent to pull that off... I just notice when I talk writing and I put in a simple twist, people love it and I am like: "No it's simple.. it needs more work" Then when I make a huge lore or twist appear with a whole story...it's like "neat" When I feel something is wrong and I ask for critism or things.. I don't get it.. I hear: "I love it don't touch it" while I feel something is wrong with it. If this is what happens in writing in general... no wonder we get terrible writers... and no wonder people don't critize anymore.

[@sandro57301]

My 12 year old daughter asked me if she could stop watching this show with me after midway through the 3rd episode. She said “What happened to the Disney Marvel shows??? I miss Loki and Wanda Vision” 😂 She was the smart one!

[@JOBXR]

Loki and Wanda vision weren’t good either. Loki mainly

[@ShimSladyBrand]

I like this one

[@Poineapples]

Did she also discuss global warming and go on a college educated rant about geo politics?

[@117MasterSpartan]

She’s got more brains than actual adults who still love marvel

[@summer7603]

just tell her the truth angry middle aged single suburban wahmen made it don't worry there's better stuff out there especially in anime

[@psychoboyjack285]

Alex: "OH YOU DIDN'T LIKE MY SHOW? YOU'RE AN INCEL" Joe puts his hand on his face realizing he was one of those people.

[@fuzzypanda1684]

Joe is slowly realizing what the woke agenda is and why it's the worst thing ever created. He's finally putting it together that 99% of the people who hate this crap aren't neckbearded incels but regular people who hate woke politics. It's taken him forever but he's rounding the corner.

[@TheBuddhaPrime]

It's even more sad when you realise that it's written by the same person that wrote the Pickle Rick episode for Rick and Morty which I would say is arguably one of the best episodes of that show

[@alexschneider8494]

Lmao I could’ve told you they weren’t funny if they wrote fucking “Pickle Rick” and thought that was comedy gold

[@thebatmane2220]

I’ll be honest with you, I love Rick and morty but that makes your point right in a different way cuz Rick and Mortys writing is garbage lol

[@YaBoyCori]

Pickle Rick is a meme solely because it’s unfunny lol

[@hylianchriss]

@@YaBoyCori Easily one of my favorite episodes. I don't care much for the actual "turning into a pickle"-thing, but overall the episode is absolute gold, with him fighting through the rats and then the embassy building.

[@TheBuddhaPrime]

@@alexschneider8494 I mean opinions are important I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure

[@KeyserSoze7182]

When it starts off with Joe being speechless, you know it's gonna be a good episode. 😂😂😂

[@ilovesekani]

That always kills me...especially during the Halo TV series.

[@Montesama314]

A subversion of expectations only works when the new thing is BETTER than what you expected. For example: "Anime protagonist has a training montage, forms a team of heroes, does his kickass character-defining attack... And dies to the starter villain in episode one. The story is about everyone in the group learning to continue the fight." That kind of story COULD work somehow. Is the new thing funnier? More action-packed? Does it deal a strong emotional punch that matters for the rest of the story?

[@TheLastSane1]

Why would it be action packed? Its a sitcom why would there be more out of no where fighting? Like I get you guys are dimwitted but you do know this is a sitcom right? Did you expect action in Full House or Family Matters? No you didn't.

[@RyuuHou22]

Feast from 2005 did that. Circumvented traditional horror tropes and what not. Killed the "hero" off in the first 10 or so minutes, left everyone else fending off this crazy creature on their own. Movie wasn't that great overall, but that beginning, they did it really well. That's always stuck with me.

[@speeddevil4040]

@@TheLastSane1 He isn't saying it has to be more action packed. He is giving examples; he's saying "if you're gonna do a subversion these are some examples of what could be the point of a subversion" You just don't subvert to subvert. He gives an example of a subversion in his comment as another example. People like you are the reason teachers have to overexplain basic context clues and reading comprehension, and why we have 'movie explained' videos for movies with paper thin stories.

[@TheLastSane1]

@@speeddevil4040 and his examples have nothing to do with this case. The whole point was that people expected the same ending to all their shows and the subversion was that they went the other way and of course that it actually fit better with the show. She Hulk is not an action show so it having an action ending wouldn’t make sense. They subverted the trope by doing what a normal show would do without the marvel formula

[@speeddevil4040]

@@TheLastSane1 The part where he mentions action packed is in refrence to his previous example of a show with the protag dying at the start His examples are to do with subverting expectations and the fact that they should ADD something to the show. This adds nothing; you know what would have added something? A court room scene with she-hulk taking hulking and the other incels to court. All of that was skipped over; the forth wall break doesn't make sense here because she-hulk talking to the audience every once in a while isn't the same thing as literally walking into the writers room and changing the script before the story is over. Especially for the season finale. If this was a one off episode i wouldn't have minded it as much. It's crazy how fucking deadpool had more restraint. Their's was a gag skit during the end credits of the movie after the story had concluded. The problem isn't that there was no big fight; the problem was they skipped over the resolution. Hulking got sent to prison...how? They rewrote him hulking out so there was no fight so he couldn't have gone to prison for that. Was it for doxing her? if so how did she prove it to the police so he would get sent to prison? All of it is skipped over. Her being unable to use her powers due to being on probation? Doesn't matter. Rewritten The problem is that they wrote a bunch of plot threads and then just dropped them or skipped over the resolution. Yes we are tired of 50 different plot threads in every marvel show. However the solution to that isn't to start 100 plot threads and then just finish 2. The solution is just to make 2 plot threads to begin with. If you are gonna do the former you're just wasting my time. That's like me complaining that the food at a restaurant is bad because there undercooked with way to much seasoning. Then their answer is to surve me the same undercooked overseasoned dish and while it is at my table scrape off the seasoning with their fingernails and torch it with a flamethrower. Yes that technically fixed the problem but you just created a whole new one instead of just never making the original mistake in the first place.

[@iamdadof2178]

I love the silences in this. I couldn't talk about this entire season this much. After this last episode my 6 year old looks at me asking what happened to the hulk and abomination fight. And I just looked at him and didn't know what to say

[@LizardSpork]

I'm convinced this show was made by people who neither know nor care for SheHulk, but saw her as a convenient vehicle to start a war with "toxic fandom" by deliberately taunting them to elicit a response so the writers can belittle them from the gilded soapbox of a billion dollar franchise, thus becoming the very thing the "toxic" fans accuses them of being. Now the writers can say that was meta commentary to reflect modern fandom but stooping down to the level of the people you despise doesn't make you clever, it makes you a hypocrite, which explains why Jen herself acts so hypocritical. This is such a shame since the premise of the show held so much potential to explore the moral and legal side of superhero-ing with all of the heroes with their own story to tell, and workplace politics is a comedy goldmine. Utterly squandered.

[@tehbeernerd]

It takes a special kind of arrogance to write exactly about the kind of backlash you expect and smear that in the audience’s faces like fresh dog shit

[@revilloteoj1934]

The writer herself said she wasn't a fan of the comics and didn't know how to write a law show

[@Dravianpn02]

@@revilloteoj1934 negative. She said she was a fan of the comics. But she lied. The showrunner is the one who didn't read them.

[@muigokublack6487]

Apparently not playing or reading the source material is a sign of accomplishment. The people playing Ellie and Joel in that Last Of Us series said they never played the games and the article tries to say that's a good thing.

[@revilloteoj1934]

@@Dravianpn02In fact let me say who i talking about specifically, I'm talking about Jessica Gao

[@117MasterSpartan]

The other bit people don’t remember is when at the start of the episode she was portrayed as her anger letting loose but in the first episode she told Bruce she can control it because she deals with being catcalled all the time

[@ilovesekani]

Trust me, nobody forgot about it.

[@TheLastSane1]

You realize there is a BIG fucking difference from being catcalled to having your blood stolen, being filmed having sex without your consent (which could be argued in court is a form of sexual assault because consent was not given, also the revenge porn laws on the books in Cali), and then it being broadcast along with all your dating history in front of your employer and co-workers at a public and televised event with your FAMILY in the front row. Like we all know you people don't see women as human being, to you lot they are property to be abused, controlled, and made to breed. But to every other person with hint of intelligence we know women are people and that that is a complete and utter fucking insane thing to compare. Lets put it this way, if tomorrow someone released Joe's girlfriends "Sex tape" with an ex or even with joe, all of her personal records, and stole her blood. Think Joe or his gf would have a good time? Think they would be happy? Because I don't think they would be.

[@vaguedreams]

That's a really stupid take.

[@f1jones544]

@@vaguedreams it's a 100% accurate take. She actually lost her temper and probably killed about half a dozen people because our it for no reason but never had to face her failure in doing so. She's also a great attorney. How do I know in spite of her losing most of her cases? Because she says so, just like she said she can maintain all of her rage that stem from catcalls she's not attractive enough to get as frequently as she pretends.

[@vaguedreams]

@@f1jones544 No, Todd, it's a really stupid take. She didn't kill anyone, she justifiably got extremely angry, but hey, I'm sure your ok with what was done. She won every case she was on, except one, but hey, why bother with accuracy right? I think you should just probably stick to the little rascals as they have a club just for you.

[@vladthe3rd414]

Biggest character arc for the whole series is angry Joe himself 😂😂😂

[@Cryptosifu]

You guys are better than me. I couldn’t make it through the series. Episode 4 was my end. God, the show was absolutely awful. 😂

[@albertojhernandez]

I CRIED laughing when Alex said "the writers" 🤣

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

[@andrewrodriguez9395]

I’ve been waiting for this all day! 😂 love you guys a

[@shmeediddy.]

ME too after 235 am LOL

[@chrxs61632]

Lmao I don’t even watch the show

[@bibek6713]

Same here dude🤣🤣

[@mithrilphoenix7305]

I’ll admit, part of me is still not over the “infinitely more angry than you” statement from episode one, considering it was said to who it was and how the Hulk was created , me personally being repeatedly abused from a parent while your a child is way worse than being catcalled but I’m a man with CPSTD so what do I know… BUT also I’m not the type of person that knee jerk reacts to things that don’t really matter, so I kept giving the show a chance thru the season, even though it wasn’t really hooking me, even the DareDevil cameo felt off to me… but oof this series wasn’t very good. I’d say it was better than Ms Marvel(and no I didn’t hate that either just wasn’t entertaining enough for me to want to see again), but also outside of Fire&Blood I unfortunately can’t say any other current series was better - which is a sad sad thing to say. The sentiment of it had good bones but they couldn’t put it together is a perfect way to say what went wrong, I’d only say add in the fact that the writers came off like they made a preemptive strike on pathetic man-babies that were going to say what they said no matter how the show actually turned out, their ONLY focus, and didn’t care if they let the character or story suffer for it.

[@riveraharper8166]

The homage to the 80s Hulk show was good indeed.

[@theForgottenMelodiesRecords]

That was so good.

[@craig2910]

But that’s it tho.

[@aaron.6923]

That was the best part of the show sadly

[@obiwanshinobi87]

This was the most anti climactic finale I have ever seen in a show...

[@glidergoku]

Man right???? Like wtf was that? Not even a finale

[@redragongaming]

Hah i am better with a lightsaber than you'll ever be Obi Wan, i am Darth Revan bow down to your new king.

[@natediaz1863]

Yeah, thankfully there is a show out there worse than yours lol

[@NeroLeMorte]

Looks like she has the high ground now. Standing atop a mountain of garbage.

[@liamlane1165]

Yeah, the villains of this show really were the writers

[@mainstream2226]

42 minutes of Alex, Joe, and Joe trying really hard to think of something to say because they need to make a video to wrap up the series review but the show reeeeaaaally gave them nothing to talk about at the end hahahaha. Absolutely loved this review, it speaks volumes. Sorry you guys had to suffer through the show but thanks for making it so I didn't have to.

[@deadlyrobot5179]

Joe had to eat that big plate of shit to find out that there is no chocolate at the end. I feel bad for him, on one hand it's his job, and on the other hand he has to be fair and goes through with it. Poor guy.

[@lachazaroony]

You have an 80% female writing team, catering to a female audience based on comic books that are 90% male comsumed. How could it fail?

[@da_jamaican]

Press F to pay respects to the brave Men and women who suffered through this shitshow of a series

[@absolutelyfookinnobody2843]

No, F them. They knew what they were in for watching it

[@majergamer]

I only watched it for daredevil

[@obiwan9662]

And another F for the male characters in the mcu, they never stood a chance 😭

[@da_jamaican]

@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 😅😅

[@da_jamaican]

Glad I never watched a single episode just tune in to AJS to see the review every week

[@Saladrex999]

Last Episode: Yes, finally, consequences and a potential character arc... This Episode: Why have consequences and a character arc when you can literally rewrite the plot in a single episode.

[@cabbage4891]

The purpose of this show was never to entertain, it was to stick it to the fans (aka customers). What a time to be alive.

[@mrsomeone8225]

You guys are absolutely awesome. You don’t let other people affect how you view something. Even if I don’t always agree with your ratings I always know that your giving it the rating you believe it should be. I also admire the fact that you won’t be easier on something because you guys got to watch it early. Don’t let people discourage you with all their hate and keep up the good work.

[@mittensfastpaw]

Ditto.

[@210rebelboy]

Don't* "Don't let people discourage you..."