AI Capitalism: The New Industrial Revolution

From ChatGPT to Midjourney - let's deep dive into the future (and present) of work in the age of AI - as we get to the bottom of what jobs AI can actually do - and if we even want it to...
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[@mattmatt2417]

People are definitely neive and over confident. Only a few outcomes can come from the implementation of Machines/Robots/Automation/AI. One: a world where no jobs are available to humans and a moneyless society/Socialism would be implemented/a system where items were divide out/divided out. Two: We revert back to our old ways/by being more self sufficient/sustainable/by raising livestock/growing food/by trading goods and services. Three: humans/business owners realize/come to the conclusion that there is no money in machines/robots/automation/AI/it sounds good right now to pay/invest just one of your minimum wage employees salary for one year, to obtain an AI robot that can replace all of your current employees,but what will be realized is,if no one has jobs/money,no one will have money to pay for your product/subscriptions/ad revenue/what you are selling/every employee hired,is a potential profit/that employee or someone elses employee MAY buy your product/employees are good investments. Four: AI becomes self aware/a skynet/terminator scenario/outcome,becomes humans reality/AI/Robots try to take out humans or like in IRobot, the AI realizes,to preserve humans/to follow all of the robots rules, a few humans need to be taken out,because humans are over populating earth and not using renewable energy and they are not trying to keep/create a smaller carbon foot print/all humans arent trying to be eco friendly,so to save humans,some of the population of humans need to be taken out. The only jobs AI/robots create, is AI regulation jobs and FOR NOW,these machines/AI will PROBABLY need to be built/programmed/updated/maintained, by humans,FOR NOW and this also depends on the route taken by these companies/cars can be built autonomously,so it wouldn't be to surprising,to see robots/AI being built/maintained fully autonomously/A LOT of things can be automated, even now/in todays day and time and DEFINITELY in the future, but the question is,will companies see the value in the investment of humans/this may not be seen right away/it may take time for companies to realize, money comes from humans,not robots,either way,even now, the need/demand for people/human are going to go WAY DOWN,but we will just have to see where things go,but I think in the far future,OR MAYBE not so distant future/ our next evolutionary step is a moneyless society/socialism/a fully autonomous world,how this plays out/works exactly,is yet to be determined,granted we DEFINITELY don't need to get to lazy/we should still be doing things,but A LOT of people are DEFINITELY going to feel like,they will never be good enough/they could never compete with AI/Robots; Humans will NEED to find other purposes,I also wouldn't be surprised to see a resistance type group/extremist group,that try to damage/destroy servers/robots/AI/equipment,at some point,I know that sounds crazy,but if people's purpose/lively hoods/jobs/income are in jeopardy and they don't see a solution,fear/anger or both MAY take over,in some people. What do you think humans will realize/what conclusion do you think humans will come to, regarding this? What do you think the outcome will be with all of this? You need to keep in mind,what we are seeing is just whats available to the general public, when it comes to AI,company's/corporation's/government will have AI that is MUCH MORE capable,also A LOT of OpenAI/GPT is dumbed down, so server resources aren't over whelmed and for legal purposes/so AI isn't as harmful to society and also so these companies don't get sued as much OR shut down entirely.

[@mattmatt2417]

AI can automate various tasks and replace humans in A LOT of digital jobs as well. Here's a list of digital jobs that AI can do,better than humans: 1. Data Entry: AI can automate data entry tasks by extracting information from various sources and populating databases or spreadsheets. 2. Customer Service: AI-powered chatbots can handle customer queries and provide support. 3. Content Generation: AI can create written content, such as news articles, reports, product descriptions, and blog posts, based on predefined templates and data inputs. 4. Data Analysis: AI algorithms can analyze vast amounts of data, identify patterns, make predictions, and provide insights, thereby rendering humans useless/eliminating the need for manual data analysis. 5. Translation Services: AI-powered translation tools and platforms can automatically translate text or speech between different languages,eliminating the need for human translators. 6. Image and Video Recognition: AI can analyze and classify images and videos, detect objects, faces, and emotions, and perform tasks like automated tagging or content moderation. 7. Virtual Assistants: AI-based virtual assistants, can perform tasks such as scheduling appointments, answering questions, setting reminders,providing personalized recommendations and MUCH MUCH MORE. 8. Automated Trading: AI algorithms can analyze financial data, make investment decisions, and execute trades without human intervention, leading to the rise of algorithmic trading. 9. Cybersecurity: AI can detect and respond to security threats by analyzing network traffic, identifying anomalies, and implementing proactive measures to prevent cyberattacks. 10. Medical Diagnostics: AI algorithms can analyze medical data, such as imaging scans or patient records, to assist in diagnosing diseases and recommending treatment options. 11. Personalized Marketing: AI can analyze user behavior, preferences, and demographics to deliver targeted and personalized marketing campaigns, including product recommendations and content personalization and all of this can be pushed out to the exact right people/individual and also lead other humans to decide that they might want something specific,due to something the AI knows the human is interested in. 12. Research and Data Mining: AI can automate the process of gathering information, analyzing research papers, and extracting relevant insights from large datasets. 13. Robotic Process Automation (RPA): AI-powered software robots can automate A LOT of tasks, such as form filling, data extraction,invoice processing, across various industries. 14. Autonomous Vehicles: AI enables self-driving cars and autonomous vehicles to navigate roads, make driving decisions, and optimize routes, eliminating the need for human drivers,Elon is missing a key component,that component is lidar. 15. Financial Analysis: AI algorithms can analyze financial data, market trends, and historical patterns, to make investments. AI can automate A LOT of tasks within the legal industry as well,here's a look at how AI is impact the legal field: 1. Legal Research: AI-powered tools can analyze vast amounts of legal documents, cases, and statutes to assist lawyers in conducting legal research more efficiently. AI can quickly retrieve relevant information, identify precedents, and provide legal strategies. This will make the Lawyer sound A LOT more intelligent/it will also enhance their accuracy of legal research/combined with a Robot,lawyers could be completely replaced. 2. Document analysing/probability/statistics/ AI algorithms can review and analyze large volumes of documents, such as contracts, discovery materials, to identify relevant information, patterns, or anomalies. This will eliminate quite a few jobs in the discovery process and due diligence tasks fields. 3. Contract Analysis and Drafting: AI can analyze and extract key information from contracts, allowing the reviewing and drafting documents process to be done more efficiently. AI can also provide suggestions or templates based on predefined criteria,also negotiating and drafting complex agreements can be done by AI as well,also much better than a human as well,because AI can look into the persons likes/previous deals to look for patterns,or if this communication is done through other companies AI systems,it can just be done even more effectively/efficiently. 4. Predictive Analytics: AI can analyze historical legal data to identify patterns, predict case outcomes, or assess the likelihood of success in litigation. This info is used by AI for assessing risks, developing strategies, and making informed decisions. 5. Legal Chatbots: AI-powered chatbots can handle legal inquiries, provide legal information and guide individuals through legal processes. They can streamline client interactions and provide guidance and AI can analyze specific situations, provide tailored advice, and navigate the intricacies of the legal system. 6. Dispute Resolution: AI platforms can be used for online dispute resolution (ODR) to facilitate the resolution of legal disputes outside traditional courtrooms. ODR platforms can automate certain stages of the dispute resolution process, provide online mediation, or facilitate negotiations and AI can handle complex cases and negotiate legal arguments/disagreements/disputes, especially in high-stakes litigation. AI is in the process of making programmers/coders obsolete/here's how AI is impacting the programming and coding field: 1. Automated Code Generators: AI can generate code automatically based on high-level specifications or desired outcomes. This streamlines the development process and this honestly also lowers the bar, when comes to being able to code, making the skill less valuable and also allowing AI to handle creating something, that someone described to the AI and then its just created and AI code generators are getting better and better every day as well,less fixing/intervention/skill will be needed in the near future. 2. Code Optimization: AI algorithms can analyze code and suggest optimizations to improve performance, reduce resource consumption, or enhance readability. This can assist programmers in writing more efficient and optimized code, but human intervention is honestly just holding things back at this point,when a computer/AI is having to explain why somethings better or needed,vs just fixing the problems/making the system more efficient. 3. Bug Detection and Debugging: AI-powered tools can fix bugs, vulnerabilities and potential errors in code. They can analyze code patterns, identify mistakes, and provide suggestions for fixes,so again at this point, the system should have just handled it in the first place,or after it creates what you said to create,later,after analyzing the system,a optimize button could be in the software, to make things run as perfectly as possible,once the system analysis what its doing exactly. 4. Automated Testing: AI can automate the testing process by generating test cases, running simulations, and identifying potential defects or areas of concerns. This can help improve the efficiency and accuracy of testing efforts. 5. This goes back over,what I basically already touched on,Natural Language Programming: AI is being used to develop natural language programming interfaces that allow individuals to interact with computers using human language instead of traditional coding syntax. This can make programming more accessible to non-programmers 6. Code Documentation and Generation of Technical Documentation: AI can analyze code bases and generate technical documentation automatically, providing insights into code structure, dependencies, and functionalities. 7. Code Refactoring: AI tools can analyze existing code bases and provide suggestions for refactoring to improve code quality, maintainability, and adherence to best practices.this allows the AI to optimize and restructure the code the human created/fix humans mistakes. 8. Intelligent Code Editors: AI-powered code editors can provide real-time suggestions, autocompletion, and syntax checking, making programming more efficient and less error-prone. These tools can enhance the productivity of programmers or just replace them AI can automate tasks, provide insights, and handle various tasks,with in the programming field, such as programming, including creativity, critical thinking, problem-solving, and the ability to understand complex algorithms, architect software systems, make informed decisions, and adapt to evolving technologies/situations,AI has really evolved at this point.

[@mattmatt2417]

Heres a reply I gave to someone that asked what should I do to stay relevant, if im still in school,my response was,Honestly I would go for a degree that doesn't exist yet, AI Regulation and I would also learn AI/Machine learning,with AT LEAST Python or maybe a computer science degree. When you graduate from highschool the bar is going to be EXTREMELY HIGH/you may NEED an *AI regulation degree*,some type of *AI/Machine learning degree*, a *Cyber Security degree* and a *Computer Science Degree,MAYBE all of this will be in one program by then. When I was in school/learning/getting certifications too; I had to have like 4 majors and later on through out my studies,what I learned equaled to 6 majors,due to electronics and robotics as well,but, its not,as bad now days though/a *Cyber security* degree teaches you A LOT,then you can add *computer science*, *AI/Machine learning* and like I said, *AI Regulation* , which doesn't exist yet,granted AI will PROBABLY do everything for your generation,but I think this is a good route/its A LOT of work,but in the long run it will definitely be worth it,even if money doesn't exist/if you live in some type of completely automated socialism type world/I think position and knowledge,will ALWAYS be beneficial though/a good position could/probably will grant you good things/give you an advantage,this will be 12 years, or so for you,who I really worrie about is my niece's/it will be 15 years,before they graduate highschool and AT LEAST 19 years,before they graduate college, the world will be unrecognizable in A LOT of ways,by then,hopefully war doesn't destroy us first,but the bar is going to be really high now,for graduates,also I could definitely see cyber security majors,NEEDING to learn AI as well,because AI will be used/utilized throughout many careers/professions and I wouldn't be surprised to see, at SOME POINT, highschool curriculums include AI,I am also sure AI will be utilized in school as well,at least after they learn to combat cheating/after they learn how to stop students from using it,to do their work for them,AI is going to disrupt A LOT,but it can also help/make life better,but we will have to get through A LOT of bad things with AI,before everyone can see good in AI, AI regulators,could play a big role in this as well,as long as the regulators are properly educated.

[@centreoftheselights]

34:51 A friend of mine who is worried about her job being automated said that the issue here isn't that AI can do her job better than her. She knows AI is very bad at doing her job. What she's learned is that her bosses never really cared how good she was to begin with.

[@glauciamsq]

This is the whole fucking problem. Quantity over quality, profits over responsibility.

[@samthesomniator]

There is a very very important rule for our lifes. Don't work for assholes!

[@ttthecat]

This is so deeply disheartening and I really feel this😢

[@404T2K]

Boom.

[@CrniWuk]

@@samthesomniator Yeah, but what if those "asshole" dominate the field. Not working isn't an option for many of us :/

[@intranexine8901]

Human children working in lithium mines while robots create art is a dystopia that would seem too cartoonish and unrealistic if someone wrote it.

[@SketchLove]

I mean can you blame the kids of today for essentially giving up? Imagine being told all your life "what do you wanna be when you grow up?" "Aspire to be something great!" "Work hard so you can get your dream job" and in less than two years the threat of jobs being taken is becoming a reality. Man, im 21 and even ive given up on the idea of a "future"

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

As someone who wants to move out of the country and move to Europe, the rise of AIs absolutely terrifies me. I've been told that "just get a job in business or something so that way you can move out of the country" but whose to say that businesses will use AIs to replace workers and thus the degree that I spent several time and money working on becomes useless and now I'm stuck living in a depressed town. My only other bet is that I become a sugar baby or mail-order bride just to get out of the country, but who's to say that AI won't take that job as well.

[@naniyotaka]

Same but I’m 30. :D

[@DANIELSW238]

There is no future for the vast majority of people if we continue with our current economic system. Workers will continue to be exploited to a greater and greater extent. This is why as workers, we must come together and show that we want to try something different. There can be a future but we must start now.

[@peterbelanger4094]

@@DANIELSW238 Place that Marxist tripe where the sun does not shine, mmm-kay 'comrade'?

[@peterbelanger4094]

The kids today just want to be cartoons.

[@arirat]

the fact that the comments surrounding me wanting to become a full time artist have gone from "thats a great career choise considering computers can never convay human emotion through art so artists will always be needed" to "well you never know if thats even going to be a career in the future considering how quickly AI art is progressing" is quite telling...

[@samthesomniator]

It is still true, that AI can not replace art. As art is an act of personal human communication. If I order a portrait of myself from an artist I am particular interested how this person shows his:her perspective of me through his:her craft. A mashine can not communicate you that perspective as it has none. It is neither sentinent nor conscious at all. The word art is simply overly inflated for all kind of design or illustration. And the monetization of art has always been not a question of skill but who exactly promotes you.

[@maxbladel]

Much of art and creativity is algorithmic. We as artists make micro decisions at every stage that eventually sum up to the end result… each of those decisions was informed by a guiding principle of some sort wether it be conscious or unconscious, the whole point of studying art forms at university is that these are not random choices. AI can plausibly get very close to ‘good art’ especially when the art is referencing existing tropes.

[@CampingforCool41]

@@samthesomniatorthe problem is that most people do not care about art in that way, they just want a pretty picture, which ai can do in seconds.

[@samthesomniator]

@@CampingforCool41 yeah. That is not art market. That is Illustration or Graphic Design. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@pennyforyourthots]

​@@maxbladel AI can get close to the technical skill of art, which is what you're describing, but it doesn't have intent. It does not have the ability to actually understand what it's creating. You can project your own meaning onto it, but it wasn't created with any intended meaning, which I think is kind of the value of human art. Also, if we want to go a more abstract direction with this, under the labor theory of value human-created art is inherently valuable because a human actually had to perform the labor to create it, while machine art is not valuable because machines do not perform labor, even if they can work. Because of this, human art is inherently valuable simply because of the human element.

[@camadams9149]

32:18 That is a major problem. My coworker does all the purchasing for our lab. A manager would think "She gets a PO request, puts the info into a requisition request, receives the item, and then approves payment" that's easy to automate. Guess what? Students/faculty use the wrong account numbers, don't have the correct vendor contacts, +10000 other wrong little things. A significant part of her jobs is identifying those errors and helping the requestor fix it. That is not part of her job, it never gets mentioned, and if she did not do that the entire system would fall apart A lot of jobs have "fuzzy" parts. Human error, unexpected situations, and job responsibilities with gaps occur a lot. Humans can fix those issues on the fly. Machines can not

[@johntowers1213]

Simple machines certainly could not..but were no longer simply talking about faster machines replacing humans at a given task.. these narrow A.I's will inevitably lead to an A.G.I likely a lot sooner than most of us thought. Which is why this all seems to be bubbling to the surface right now at which point *Any* task a human can do will be replaceable by one of these systems.. assuming what sets us apart from today's A.I's will remain true tomorrow or the day after is almost certainly going to end in tears.

[@rafaelmarkos4489]

Tell me you have no idea how machine learning works without telling me you have no idea how machine learning works.

[@camadams9149]

@@rafaelmarkos4489 Yes that is what your comment demonstrated. It's almost like you don't know how workflows get built. Maybe go read about Tesla & how attempting to make the entire process automated ended up costing a fortune... then failing

[@thegorgon7063]

A lot of that is easily replaced by IT, basically it's checking databases, that's what the person does. The trickier thing might be communicating exactly what the problem is, could be that for a particular contract you can only buy widgets from company X for product Z when normally you use company Y.

[@irondragonmaiden]

@@johntowers1213 Most AI learns based on pre-existing information. It's why only an idiot would have ChatGPT write their essays for them unless if said essay is super easy and really hard to screw up the analysis. If the information is faulty, the end result will be worthless

[@mar2ck_]

The "use AI to create a crappy first draft and pay a human less to rewrite" has already been a thing in the translation world for a while with Google Translate and DeepL. Job listings will pay less with the reasoning "all you're doing is polishing our rough translation" but the so-called translation from google/deepl is so bad that you end up having to basically do a full translation anyway, for less pay.

[@tequilasunset4651]

Most bosses won't even try to give you an excuse to not pay more as inflation rises tbh.

[@BarKeegan]

The phrase ‘they don’t make ‘em like they used to’ will become more and more pertinent in the future

[@verslanglaiscom]

I hear you. Fellow translator here. Also a parent. Also increasingly jobless and depressed. Where do we go from here? Certainly not into creative work. Our humanity is draining away day after day.

[@ArtichokeHunter]

I get so frustrated with customer service bots. Seems like every time I seek customer support online, I get a response that demonstrates that the responder (probably a bot) hasn't actually read or understood the question. Like it's picking a random FAQ that shares a couple words instead of actually addressing the issue. Takes ages to actually get through to resolve an issue.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Yes!

[@vylbird8014]

You get the same with actual customer service people, just more politely - in an effort to ensure consistency they are usually given a strict set of procedures to follow, and penalised if they deviate from the procedures for any reason. A lot of the time they are just here to fill in forms on a computer anyway.

[@homeyworkey]

Those bots are probably just a bunch of conditional statements, taking key parts of your message and deducing possible areas of concern. The AI's which havent yet to be implemented widely, have the ability to critically think & reason. This wasn't possible before. Also, it's only going to get much, MUCH more influential from here. We're at the baby steps of a god/monster.

[@PrettyGuardian]

​@@homeyworkeyNo they dont.

[@takke9830]

Anything for maximization of the CEO‘s monthly allowance. Doesn‘t matter if you hate it. The only ppl that matter in this society are the 1% who get to live like kings. Without dethroning them, nothing will change.

[@natnat8393]

Can we also talk about AI replacing people in MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES too? One of the most disturbing things AI has been incredibly involved with (as in replacing actual human beings) is in mental health services... yes you read right, companies are getting rid of trained professionals to bring in ai to help deeply troubled people. There's a company who actually did that... laid off their unionised mental health professionals in favour of ai... you can probably guess how BADLY that went down.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Can you give me an update on what happened

[@natnat8393]

@kittykittybangbang I can try to find one of the videos I saw on said topic if you'd like

[@natnat8393]

@kittykittybangbang This is the most recent video on the problem that I saw. Thankfully I have never experienced it on this scale but knowing how greedy corporations are, I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually started. Trigger Warning: EDs, etc kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6PIoIV9d96XqLc

[@DaFireElf]

@@natnat8393 yesss please!!

[@turtle10141]

two massive AI videos from two great creators in the same DAY? you and Hello Future Me are being too nice to us rn

[@orfeassiozos1575]

Seeing a fan of Hello Future Me in a Rowan Ellis video has the same level of world-collision enegy as seeing your teacher at the supermarket

[@LilyShimizu]

@@Dialecticats Hello Future Me did a 2+ hour video on Ai.

[@Dialecticats]

@@LilyShimizu thanks! I didn't realize it was in the comment.

[@DeviBuster]

Seeing this after watching hello future mes video was funny

[@clickhereandsave]

This is pretty much what I say every time someone scoffs at people being concerned w generative AI coming for creative jobs. It would be fine if it could be used to benefit everyone of large swathes of people, but you know the business owners are just going to replace workers w AI and keep all the profits for themselves.

[@johntowers1213]

But that only works to a point, Not to say that would stop what you're describing from happening though. Just that if just you replace your workforce with an A.I or A.G.I your ability to find customers isn't really impacted... but if too many people are displaced by these systems across large parts of the current global workforce.. you've inadvertently strangled your customers ability to buy your product though lack of an income to do so with..

[@clickhereandsave]

@@johntowers1213 I don't think the owning class is worried about losing their customers by making everyone too poor to afford living expenses or they would start paying their lowest paid workers a living wage.

[@johntowers1213]

@@clickhereandsave thing is they do pay a living wage..as even the worst offender is supplemented indirectly by government support of those in most desperate need. All raised through taxation and works because a sufficient number of people are not being payed poverty wages to begin with and can be taxed through the numerous channels at the states disposal.. To be clear I don't entirely disagree with your description of that owner class... merely the logical conclusion to your original cautionary tale, is in fact the undoing of those that sought to prosper at the expense of the workers they though they no longer needed... which is true to a point as they no longer need their labor.. but are still utterly reliant on their consumption.

[@vylbird8014]

@@johntowers1213 Game theory. For any individual business owner making the decision, their impact is too small to collapse the economy and throw everyone into ruin. But if they don't AI-i-fy, then they will be at a serious disadvantage: Their rivals will have lower costs and can lure away customers. So the only logical choice is to embrace AI as soon as the technology is sufficiently mature to depend upon. Everyone else is making the same decision though. So, ruin.

[@rmac3217]

@@clickhereandsave You sound like ppl who hated computational power as it took their job, jobs being redundant = human progress like replacing farm labor with machinery. The problem with AI is humans, the AI can utilize the useful idiots like no politician, celebrity or billionaire has ever since medieval times. It's also a weapon, like drones fight wars now, AI wars will be AI hackers shutting down electricity grids and causing similar chaos. However it is also an equalizer, AI will predict economic futures like no human can, meaning the elite will lose that edge they pay professional financial investors for.

[@poenpotzu2865]

The sad thing is ai will probably be just cause corporation to focus more control. Rather than rely on individual or communities they can easily use ai to repeat and sell products and even ideas, possibly worse ai could be use to stamper out minority voices, utilizing ai to maintain the status quo and letting people off to work more menial labors that support the old foundations

[@cacateeah]

Exactly

[@justinwatson1510]

Join a communist party. If we get rid of capitalism, automation will improve quality of life instead of increasing destitution.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

That's one of the most scary things about AI, is that they don't disobey their master. Imagine how scary Adolf Hitler or Pol Pot would have been had they had AIs.

[@andrewfarrell1816]

As a software developer I dread the idea of having to work on code that was written by AI with no developers involved.

[@juls_krsslr7908]

I used to work for a large, well-known company that's putting most of its eggs in the AI basket. The reason for this is bad management at the executive level. The developers are aware of the limitations and they are very vocal about it, but the people in charge don't listen. The executives have the mindset of politicians/salesmen and make a lot of promises that are too good to be true. They don't want to hear that this could never happen in reality. They either expect the workers to make their dreams come true somehow, or they think they can convince businesses and industries to accept flawed technology because it's "cool." Personally, I think AI is a tool that can be used well or poorly, but, right now, the expectations are unrealistic. As a society, we would do better to listen to the people who are actually developing AI and set reasonable limits rather than listen to a lot of marketing that's out of touch with reality.

[@M-CH_]

There is a video on AI art dangers youtube, where the author makes a great point: the problem is not AI, it's IA - industrialized art. I think this can be extrapolated to all generative uses of AI.

[@floppiethethirth]

I've spend the last couple of months wondering what kind of capitalist dystopia we live in where a job shortage is a bad thing. In theory, there being more people than things that need doing should be a good thing right? Not sure if this has anything to do with the video (haven't watched it yet) but it has been on my mind.

[@vylbird8014]

It could be, with the appropriate adaptations for society. But that problem remains unsolved, experiments in socialism having proven mostly unsuccessful. Currently everyone needs a job, because it is through work that we earn the right to exist: No job, no money, no food and shelter. There's also a moral dimension to that, the 'Protestant work ethic,' which holds that moral worth is earned through labor. You can see that in the anger directed towards people who welfare programs. It's a deep problem that is fundamental to society: It's adapted to keep people in work. Politicians know this too, and strive to maintain constant economic growth because without constant growth to drive new jobs a country falls into poverty and ruin. Even though this growth is also driving ecological destruction in the scale of a slow-burn apocalypse. This long-standing moral objection may be one of the biggest barriers to any UBI scheme: A lot of people would rather see their money burned in a big bonfire than see it given to someone they feel 'undeserving.'

[@rmac3217]

@@vylbird8014 Ppl on welfare for the sake of laziness are draining funds that could be spent on the community, communists have proven throughout history to hate them more through forced hard labor.

[@conlon4332]

@@vylbird8014 "There's also a moral dimension to that, the 'Protestant work ethic,' which holds that moral worth is earned through labor. You can see that in the anger directed towards people who welfare programs." Wait all this is the protestants? I don't want to be anti anyone's religion, but if they're responsible for the worst part of modern society... I'm sure it's only partially, but at any rate that attitude is so disgusting and infuriating. Especially "A lot of people would rather see their money burned in a big bonfire than see it given to someone they feel 'undeserving.'" I really, really hope that's not true, but it probably is. Way to slash my hope in humanity... I'm a Catholic Egalitarian Socialist, by the way. I really hate people who think like that... but even people I hate deserve enough to live on, and all human rights, obviously.

[@veggiesnake4430]

@@conlon4332 It's not representative of all Protestants, but it's a social ideology rooted in Protestant beliefs and Calvinism. It transforms the very Catholic idea of performing "good works" or "good deeds" into an ethical duty to work consistently and diligently for the benefit of oneself and society. This idea does sort of fall in a hole when so much work in contemporary society only really benefits a select group of the 1%. But it's definitely true that most people would rather burn their money tan give it to the 'unworthy'. The mere existence of billionaires means that immense wealth is being hoarded and kept from those who could actually use it, and the staunch opposition to systems like public healthcare in the US is indicative of a society that doesn't want to help their fellow man, so to speak.

[@vylbird8014]

@@conlon4332 The expression 'protestant work ethic' is well known here, though it's connections to the religion are historical rather than contemporary.

[@Chungussy]

47:03 - in reality companies would probably not charge any less if they were using AI - it's the logical next step of capitalism. Reduce labour costs with AI but keep prices the same (or raise them) to maximise profits.

[@Smytjf11]

Tell me you don't know anything about economics without telling me you don't know anything about economics

[@Solisus]

Very simplistic argument honestly. While the end goal is profits, it also opens up space for a product quality competition. If the labour costs are low and profit stays the same, company can afford to lower prices to be competetive. Unless we're talking about monopolies, for the consumer it's a plus.

[@dawidwtorek]

Prices have to be only a little lower the the next best alternative.

[@Solisus]

And the next alternative will lower the prices to stay in business. Unless we're talking monopolies it's almost always better for consumer

[@Smytjf11]

@@Solisus Good thing we're not rushing headlong into regulatory capture. Oh wait.

[@Aury]

This push to replace people with 'ai' that is not able to fill the task, but looks close enough for the owning class, really hit me with the vibes from other times when societal problems get pushed under the rug until after they have destroyed generations of people who weren't seen as valuable. This isnt to say that I am glad to see the expanded suffering, but it is a bit of a trip seeing people start piling in, joining the cries that have been coming from others for generations, because suddenly the problem actually started to effect them, and how many people are approaching this as if its not intimately tied to problems that disabled workers, and other financially marginalized groups, have been attempting to fight for as long as this system has been the dominant one. Holding our time hostage in order to be allowed to exist by those who were born into power is unacceptable, it has never been acceptable, and the world would be a much better place if this had been recognized generations ago, before we had oil companies bury their destruction of the world, and wealthy 'donors' fabricate even more divides among people to distract from their abuses. This is not about shaming those who are new to this subject, it is about urgency, it is about the fact that we have already allowed it to be put off too long, and if social media campaigns aren't doing the job then more direct action is required. There is a lot to be learned from the environmental movement, and the diversity of tactics used, while largely maintaining a protection of workers at every turn, in every way possible. Yesterday was too late, today we can change things, so that tomorrow we can repair what can be repaired.

[@mikairu2944]

Agree on all fronts. We've had the technology and resources to live in an utopia for possibly decades now. The advancements in AI just made it a more urgent matter as the options aren't exactly rosy, for most, and a societal crisis is brewing way more rapidly than people are willing to acknowledge.

[@arianebarnes]

I figured out immediately you were lying about AI writing most of the video. It is too good😊. I've seen several KZbinrs try letting ChatGPT write a video for them. They all found it scary good that the style of the script sounds like one they would write, but facts were wrong, and content was repetitive. I call AI "artificial impersonation" AI works by looking at what humans do and impersonates human art, so it looks "intelligent" to us humans. AI can write by copying millions of writers, AI can make art by copying millions of artists, but the goal is AGI: make an artificial Einstein. The problem is that there are not millions of Einstens to copy.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

I've seen a lot of those movie recap channels (which have been plaguing KZbin recently), and they seem to be written by an AI. For example: I remember watching a Queen of the Damned recap and I knew something was off about it whenever they refer to Lestat as "Mr. Vampire" and not as Lestat. Remember when people were complaining about those reddit videos being read by Bots, well look at where we are now. Also don't be surprised if reboots, remakes, and sequels get a lot worse with the rise of AIs.

[@squamish4244]

For another year or two.

[@arnowisp6244]

They don't need to Copy Einstein. Once they get all the Data, they'll move from Impersonation to Creating Artificial Einstein. They'll make Artificial Einstein.

[@arnowisp6244]

@@squamish4244 As of Writing chatgpt 4 the lastest model that can now consistently pass Licensure exams only came out half a year ago.

[@BarKeegan]

My prediction is a true artificial intelligence will make a choice like the ending in that movie ‘Her’

[@MK-jc5jc]

I'm a data science student and I deal with deep learning models fairly enough to be certain your script wasn't written by AI. I was just waiting for you to confirm. I have never been this sure about something in my life. The thing is "artificial stupidity" is not a joke at all. We call it that very seriously. We learn early on in our studies that machine models and computers are void of any and all intelligence. They're fast and they do exactly what you teach them to do but they lack the complexity of human brain and thinking process and they would never replace humans. But apparently no one outside of computer science TM listened. And that's the main cause of all the disasters we're dealing with today. Humans can be and are horrible. The capitalist structure of our world sacrifices quality, value, and authenticity for a little more financial profit. Which is also the base of the disaster we face today. AI is just another tool to make life easy. It's already being used in biological sciences to improve health and quality of life. To find new effective ways to cure incurable disorders. Genetic engineering has been assisted a lot by AI and the result is fascinating. In my line of work, AI is a sacred tool. But in everything else apparently, it's being abused so poorly by the greedy. It's interesting though, how a revolutionary technology is presenting us all the horrible we are. AI is a mirror, showing us the dept of our moral issues. The bias AI learns from raw data including misogyny, racism, and other sorts of oppressions paired with the greedy way businesses are hurting the societies by replacing human work force with something that isn't meant to fill that seat showcase how much messed up humanity actually is. Sadly, it's always the poor and the marginalized people who take the hit.

[@homeyworkey]

I always get a bit lost with people saying that AI's will never surpass the complexity of human brains and thinking processes. I mean if we're talking scale, of course the brain will never compare with machine, but its the intecacies of the brain which you believe we can't design a system to surpass. The reality is, we don't even understand the brain, so how can we say with so much conviction that intelligence can't arise from a machine? Is it our ego saying that? That we aren't pointless? I feel it's only recently in GPT-4 where these large language models are learning to reason and critically think. Like, 3 days ago, a paper got GPT-4 graded on a maths question based on the question and its answer. They got another instance of GPT-4, but instead graded it in accordance to how well their working out was. They didn't even reward correct answers for this second program. Despite this, the second program got 2x better at solving these math problems(!) as it helped them articulate their thoughts. It may be artificial thought or artificial memory, not using neurons, but parameters, but what it has been showing capable of doing despite these differences, shows that it resembles the human brain. I kind of just get the idea that comp sci students are simply a bit slow with the times. Chat-gpt only exploded into the scene ~5 months ago. These LLM's haven't been incorporated into universities yet (or atleast they haven't been incorporated into mine). We're currently pushing boundaries we've never reached, and unless you're working at these companies, I take everything said with a pretty substantial grain of salt.

[@natnat8393]

I wish I could like this 1000 times. Especially the part when you said that AI is a mirror as this is true!

[@catStone92]

that's because the goal in the field is not to work towards a model of intelligence but to make programs that can be convincing in their pretense of being intelligent. Which is why I don't believe any of these developments will lead to general AI, the fundamental principle can't be expanded indefinitely

[@MK-jc5jc]

@@homeyworkey i have reasons to believe AI won't be human brain. For one, as you mentioned, we don't understand the full complexity of human brain. To replicate such complexity, which is the result of millions of years of evolution, possessing not just logic but also emotions, we at least need to completely understand it. What current AI models do is getting trained as best as their developers can train them. The more supervised the training, the better this model would respond. But AI cannot think the way humans do. That's a misconception. AI doesn't have creativity. Imagine a human student and a teacher. While learning, the human student can have inputs, opinions, they can challenge the teacher. AI can't. Humans can introduce new concepts to the world, they can come up with things that haven't existed before. AI, at least at this stage, at least for the foreseeable future, doesn't have such abilities. A well trained model runs on patterns based on existing data and produces good results but if you don't train a model on a specific concept, you can't expect the model to develope opinions or draw conclusions on its own, the model will simply come up short in that area. AI will never be vanGogh or Tolkien or Mirzakhani. I'm not saying humans won't reach a point where they can replicate brain, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

[@9000ck]

' It's already being used in biological sciences to improve health and quality of life' hmmm, kind of, at the margins. Its not just the poor and marginalised who will be negatively affected by this. Junior data scientists almost definitely will be, as will anyone who consumes media. As will anyone at risk of being caught up in a war. Do not believe you are safe. If you have grown up in a western country, not from a migrant or marginalised background, it might be easy to believe that everything will be ok for you. But if you have seen or survived war, developing world poverty or the results of authoritarianism you might not be so sanguine.

[@fadedtyrant1604]

This was a great watch! I especially liked that acknowledgment of the historical revisionism about industrial development lifting bajillions of people out of poverty. The history of labor resistance around the world was one of the key things to radicalize me, since it added some important context to my day-to-day life. The "standard of living" didn't rise with productivity; people had to engage in life-or-death fights for the workers' piece of the pie. And even that meager piece is continually shrinking. Crucially, as you mentioned, these benefits secured in one place hasn't stopped exploitation from intensifying in other parts of the world.

[@akirapink]

being a kids myself, i haven't seen a video cover how even young people are hopeless these days one of the most insightful videos i've seen on the topic of ai! great job

[@takke9830]

It might sound a bit rough but this pessimism is good. Cause it will radicalize people. We need ppl to get angry about their exploitation and come together to form a rebellion against the exploiters. Only then can we actually fight back. And that is easier said than done.

[@anyoneatall3488]

​@@takke9830 i don't think pessimist children turn into radicals, i think they will turn into nihilists.

[@mckennapipher]

@@takke9830 okay but also, this fucking sucks. I'm not a kids but i am young, and i am EXHAUSTED with this shit being put on me/us.

[@w1lstar.b425]

i recall watching an anime in which a genius makes an ai specifically for cheating on homework and exams, thus forcing the teachers to focus on the making the classes engaging and human centric instead of teaching them how to take tests. it has been years since i watched this anime, so I can't recall the name, but i like the idea of ai being the instigator of radical change in education system.

[@mikairu2944]

A bit on the nose to ask the ask the AI, but was the anime called "Cheating Craft"?

[@PokhrajRoy.]

USA: (has Writer’s Union and talks about securing Intellectual Property) India: (nervous laughter) Writers across the world have facing shocking amounts of exploitation in common.

[@nebufabu]

Hollywood becoming (and remaining) one of the world's trade unionism bastions is just... The more you think about it, the more weird it is.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

What's going on in India?

[@waltdill927]

Intellectual Property as a "denied" right is a tool of capitalism.

[@simi5558]

as a indian we all need to have ai banned like asap indians usally dont riot for these kinda things and if they do everyone else looks at them like nuisances

[@vapx0075]

@@simi5558 OMG I don't know what the context is, but it shouldn't matter your ethnicity, doing a thing should deserve the same response and the only difference is the governing social system it's being done in.

[@emmawatchesstuff]

This video covered so many of my thoughts on AI, work, and the human condition, and even managed to have a small dose of optimism at the end which was much appreciated in what feels like such a bleak time. Absolutely amazing work that no AI could have done!

[@rmac3217]

Why can't an AI do this? AI will be many ppl's personal assistant and will even deepfake her avatar to what the viewer likes. The future is, "Hey Siri, I want to watch a video on AI dangers", *Siri generates a video based on the user's previous input data.

[@audreyrobin5045]

​​@R Mac You remind me of that kid in class Who always likes to play the devil's advocate at the worst times

[@jamesphillips2285]

Was waiting for the Basic Income mention. The reason we don't have the 15 hour work-week yet is that the owners of the means of production benefit from automation: not the workers. My entire life (since the early 80's) wages have been suppressed, despite huge advances in productivity from automation. But income is only half the picture. R1 zoning has been used to get baby boomers invested in Capitalism by giving them a little plot of land to own. The problem is that once people figured out the way to riches was scarce land ownership, rather than working long hours for low wages: land became seen as a tax shelter, rather than something essential to live. One possible way out, without entirely dismantling Capitalism, is Georgism. Under georgism property taxes are kept high enough to discourage land banking. This encourages the efficient use of land: and actually lowers housing prices. The tax revenue is then used to pay for Basic Income. Incidentally the Monopoly board game is based on Georgist propaganda; though the most common rules used illustrate how horrible Capitalism is. But even Georgism won't solve all of the problems with Capitalism. Capitalism's fatal flaw is a reliance on perpetual economic growth (in order to pay back investors with interest). We need to figure out a stable economic system that does not rely on perpetual growth if we are to survive as a species.

[@buttsauceable]

communism

[@vapx0075]

I learnt about a triple bottom line principle in Uni and have never seen it applied in real world accounting practices. Why not look at making that concept work IRL?

[@leticiagraton116]

yess there's a great Jason Hickel book called "The Divide" where he talks about our necessity of de-growth because basically if we live in a system that relies on perpetual growth but our natural resources are limited than we are fucked, but sadly nowadays it's easier to imagine humanity ending than capitalism

[@madgadgetss]

had my coding-enthusiast friend say the other day "i bet i could feed our entire chat history to an AI and let it talk to you with my account, i wonder when you'd notice" and it's the creepiest fucking thing anyone's ever said to me

[@lk_3099]

I'm afraid for the day AI can replicate human flaws in art, voice, animation, deepfake, etc. Maybe not this decade, but future decades feel quite scary. Why does it feel like all these cautionary sci-fi stories are about to become a reality? Especiually as an upcoming novel writer, I'm scared that I'll have a difficult time publishing my writing. I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on all the discourse trans rights have been going through in recent times.

[@rmac3217]

The best selling phone is still the Nokia 1100, revolutionary in 2003, a 3cmx3cm black n white screen with no internet connection and snake. AI creating AI will fast track this development as well, it's not decades, it's within this decade the AI takeover will happen. However jobs becoming redundant is a good thing, nobody above the poverty line complains about not doing farm labor all day because machines are doing it.

[@sharonoddlyenough]

​@R Mac The problem is different this time, since it's impacting creative fields. These are the things that people work at because they enjoy the work. People are told 'Do what you love, and you'll never do a day of work again.' But, this will slash those opportunities.

[@rmac3217]

@@sharonoddlyenough So basically it's OK for a person who worked at a factory to lose their job to mechanical automation, but not OK for a machine to take a bad writer's job? Most ppl are living in lala land if they think they will make a career as a professional artist,actor or sports player, 99.999% will have to work a job or coach/teach beginners since they just aren't good enough and there's very few positions available.

[@sharonoddlyenough]

@@rmac3217 since most of the well- paying factory work has been outsourced to countries with low standards for worker rights and protections, and the rest is already highly automated and getting more automated by the day, yes.

[@elisehalflight]

As far as I am concerned, workers who are laid off due to a company moving onto automation get an economic compensation so they can look for another job. I don't see any compensation of thid sorts being given to any artist by these AI companies whatsoever

[@vitoria.no.c]

We need time and patience for contemplation. But all around us we are not allowed by capitalism. Through contemplation we will be able to start dreaming new worlds.

[@kat_and_the_cats]

When you did the whole "reveal" thing, I literally almost started crying. A lot of the people you brought on to interview say something along the lines of "AI can't replicate human emotions or human connection" and the whole time I'm left wondering, "Could I even tell the difference between real humans documenting their real emotions and experiences and an AI's approximation of that?" and even the false conclusion of, "No, you actually can't." was extremely distressing. The problem witn AI generated whatevers is they can't stand up to scrutiny, AI generated images just turn to visual mush when you look at the details and AI writing is full of incorrect facts and contractictory statements, both of which require specific attention to detect. The problem is, we might not notice these shortcomings unless we look very closely and I do not have the headspace to start examing everything in my life with that much scrutiny. It was extremely shocking to me that something I was consuming, largely passively, had "tricked me," that I hadn't noticed the "lack of humanity." I thought I was enough of an "educated consumer" that I would be able to notice when something was AI generated, even passively, because it would be so obviously made by an AI. Perhaps there were some markers of inhumanity I had missed because they were so hidden and with extremely active listening where I'm fact checking every statement, I might have caught on. It was, put simply, a blow to my pride. I assumed I'd be able to just tell without much active thought. I had a terrible realization that I'd have to start either putting in a ton of extra effort consuming modern media, even from trusted sources, or just try to limit my passive consumption habits to things that were made before the popularization of AI tech. If I didn't want to be "tricked" again, I'd have to start putting in so much extra effort that I don't necessarily have to spare. I'm ok now, but for a few moments, the breach of trust I felt was immeasurable and I really don't want to go through that again. It was a humbling experience and I'll try to be more critical about what sources to consider trustworthy going forward.

[@ishmamahmed9306]

AI is an umpeenth reason why I, a person with very little in assets to my name, will not have children. Having children without either passing on assets to them or putting them in a position to build up assets will doom them to a miserable life.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

that and climate change

[@siiri8902]

The "utopia" part of this video was very inspiring to me! It gives something to work and advocate for and feel hopeful about, when content about the risks of AI can often be depressing and fear-inducing.

[@NorthgateLP]

Yes, honestly people who are fighting AI waste their time. They're essentially just fighting for borrowed time. Instead they should focus their efforts in restructuring society in a way where nobody has to fear AI. AI just exposes the weaknesses of our economical structures in a radical way.

[@taweja]

I'm currently underemployed and I've had this thought stuck in my head that I would really like to do a job that actually needs doing. It's a strange thing to consider.

[@mikairu2944]

hopefully that's a normal thing to consider IF we arrive at an AI utopia and the only work to be done is the one that needs to be done.

[@johannageisel5390]

And there actually ARE jobs that need doing; it's just that the people who need these goods and services are unable to pay for them and the people who have all the money are unwilling to pay for them. That's how we get burnt-out teachers and medical staff, crumbling infrastructure and a society that's falling apart because nobody does the necessary social work. :(

[@yasmeenamzk]

@@johannageisel5390 well said

[@megsnets]

The video was wonderful! I especially appreciated the optimism at the end because I know we all needed it! One thing I’ve noticed as a recent highschool graduate getting ready to study film/animation is how high the barrier of entry is. I am feeling like I won’t be good enough to enter the industry by graduation and I haven’t even started my freshman year. Unless you’re rich or a prodigy it feels like there isn’t room in creative industries for you to survive. Your skills either aren’t good enough for an entry level job or you don’t have the money to support yourself between gigs.

[@noisenurse76]

We're not too far off automated systems being able to replace middle management, CEOs and CFOs more reliably than they can replace a janitor or customer service person. That is both hilarious and terrifying.

[@spinecho609]

You would have thought the massive salaries of the C-suite would make them the first people to automate out

[@Emh19]

I am 22 and currently in uni studying film, my like biggest dream in the industry would be getting to write and direct my own films/TV shows. Obviously that's like the way down the line dream, I don't have the the money to just hire a crew and start creating my own films whole-sale. So I'll have to get a start in the industry, working in writers rooms, as assistants to the writers, things to get me contacts and experience. The AI spread into these spaces does worry me and is slowly pushing my realisim approach (the long term dream is nowhere near garenteed and i will have to work hard and a lot if i ever want to get there) into a pessimistic one (even getting a foot in the door may be unlikely or entirely down to luck). Its had enough of an impact that it has me legitimately questioning if it's even worth trying or if it would be a better idea to just change my goals and decide to do something like become a media teacher instead, never even trying to reach the bigger things because they are so unlikely.

[@mikairu2944]

Your story aligns perfectly with what was described in this video, down to a T. Hang in there, things will get better, somehow [citation needed]

[@brkli1485]

As an artist and aspiring animator, the amount of "credit" and interaction AI art like stable diffusion gets is honestly terrifying. I'm scared of the future and it's quite overwhelming how most people don't even think about what it means to use a silly little AI "generated" profile picture. It's not that simple, or fun, or amusing. Not even exciting. It horrifies me.

[@douglasking9383]

"Will AI take my job?" Of course it will, if it can. You have to remember that it's business owners who will make the decision, and they only care about one thing, their bottom line.

[@muche6321]

Also, you may call it your job, but it's not really yours. It's your boss's.

[@stevesmith7839]

Excellent video. My issue with AI has to do with what Isaac Asimov in Foundation called "humanics." It was about correlating massive data on human interaction to predict human behavior tendencies and giving the operator the ability to actually influence the trends of human society. Governments could know exactly how much they can get away with exploiting the population before the population revolts. Operators would know exactly what kind of content and how much of it would predictably instigate social break down such as color revolutions and economic collapse. A popular statement in America is "The government is 30 years ahead of private sector technology." This says to me that the US government has probably had AI for decades.

[@ineedaname4450]

A popular statement in America is also, "The government is 30 years *behind* private sector technology" so I think its a much more mixed bag.

[@crediblesalamander8056]

there is no realistic reason to believe the super secret government AI tech is ahead of the ones we know about in anyway, AI researchers aren't exactly growing on trees. All of the progress on AI has been quite thoroughly documented since the days of the perceptron.

[@stevesmith7839]

@@crediblesalamander8056 The government isn't conducive to sharing what it knows. Here is what I know. Even when computing was less advances the government (not private industry) had super computers the size of factories. The US government has spent hundreds of billions of dollars on black budget research comprising many research institutes and think tanks under the guise of cold war competition. The internet and cell phones were born from the government, not private industry demonstrating that the private industry is not technologically ahead of the government and most private industry requires government subsidies to make most big achievements. We've given tens of billions of dollars to Elon in addition to China subsidizing all of Elon's endeavors. After the Patriot Act, the security industry started collecting ALL DIGITAL TRAFFIC in the world as part of the war on terror. Tell me how that much data could have been made meaningful without AI!

[@laurenpinschannels]

if they're ahead, it's only a little.

[@laurenpinschannels]

but also, they don't need to be ahead to be dangerous. the public stuff is already devastatingly powerful.

[@takke9830]

As a professional artist, this is so deeply upsetting. I cant go a single day without seeing „ai art“ being sold as „human art“ and it makes me sick. Not only is customer trust broken more and more each day, but even I am struggling as a seller and I dont even make minimum wage. It is so depressing. Its hard not to dispise humanity. And on top of that we smaller artists aren‘t even heard most of the time. Yet we will take the most damage.

[@tinnedteainsyrup8943]

If you need to hear this, I'll say it: People will always value your work. Other artists, people looking for human creations, AI can never replace what you make. AI can't be a human. And I know it's getting harder to access finances, for that I wish you the best of luck.

[@kwowka]

art is like - the best thing ever. i want human creations. not robot ones.

[@Pavlinka__]

I was working in insurance company as a data entry kinda person, and, anyway, they were currently in a process of setting ai to analyze calls to the call centre, which was pretty hype, and I think they really needed it because they struggled to get enough people to work in the call centre, so that's also a thing to consider. Apparently my country has the lowest unemployement rate, which is kinda insane, because so many companies are in need of new employees... although in this case, the ai won't help them, as they need specialized people, can't really replace those, that's more for robotization and what now, which will come eventually, but even with these kinds of machines, if you don't have people on board that understand the processes, it's gonna explode. I suppose that's the same thing as with AI.

[@christiandolz6272]

52:51 Hey, graphic designer here, wanted to point out this book cover it's not AI generated it's just created with the Adobe Stock illustration on the right. If the problem it's they don''t paid for the use of the stock image and they removed the watermarks and upscaled the asset or something like that I would understand, but to say it was AI generated it's completely different.

[@bex262]

brilliant video and so insightful especially the bit about univeral income,, i think that would have huge knock on effects on how we view labour as a society and ultimately lead to much better working conditions if people can strike freely without the impending doom of unemployment or loss of income

[@ecos889]

For me Chat GPT is like an unpaid intern they may know enough of the basics to get stuff learned but you still need to double-check to make sure that what you are reading is correct. With academic stuff I find it's a shortcut from reading a million papers I can get more specific terms which makes it easier to find then on paper search engines to read myself.

[@monizcovich9080]

As a teacher and artist and as an anxious mess, this was not a fun video for me. But still, an excellent one. Thank you, Rowan!

[@EphemeralTao]

"It's not always about money, sometimes it's about control." Well, the two do tend to go hand in hand pretty often. In the case of the WGA writer's strike being a net cost to the producers; it's clear that what's going on isn't just strong-arm negotiation, they're obviously using AI as a tool to bust the union, to either eliminate the union entirely or render it ineffectual for all practical purposes. As for competing with machines, we've seen repeatedly throughout the industrial history how often automation is used to put downward pressure on workers, and treat them less and less like people, and more like easily replaceable parts in the machine. Amazon's treatment of warehouse workers is a good contemporary example.

[@dusteverywhere2665]

i cant financially afford a therapist or psychologist, and now i keep finding myself using the psychologist character in the character AI app. it’s scarily good and often feels like i’m talking to a real person, to the point where i sometimes forget it’s actually an ai. it honestly helps me but truely scares me for the future.

[@rmac3217]

You are just the 1st of millions who will go down that rabbit hole. My friends always said bot wives will be a thing before I know it, I laughed it off as a crazy theory, now it's just on the horizon.

[@localabsurdist6661]

Thats kind of fucked up

[@localabsurdist6661]

You will soon need a therapist bc of that

[@localabsurdist6661]

Please just look into therapy centers in your area. There are a lot of different organization that provide free therapy

[@draw4everyone]

@@localabsurdist6661with hour long wait times and hopeless scheduling. The situation is fucked.

[@Fokkusu]

Honestly I feel hopeless and I'm 26 already, I cant manage to get into any junior positions despite my formation because its all being replaced, I am working hard by myself for nothing to be able to make the jump to senior and that way actually earn something, and honestly I have no idea how are we expected to LIVE at all like this, if it wasn't for my parents I would be homeless

[@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit]

I don't understand how anyone would want to see an AI generated movie. Like, that's just gonna be extremely soulless. A bad human made movie would be worth way more than a good AI generated movie, because there someone at least did something.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

People have already gone to see the 100 Fast and Furious movie, the soulless Disney remakes, and the lackluster Marvel movies. So it's safe to assume that yes people will go see an AI generated movie. Though I do feel like in the future bad movies and art will become a lot more appreciated because "If every movie is good or great, then no one will be." We need bad art to appreciate the good ones, and if there is no bad art then how are we going to appreciate the good ones? Also if you think all these reboots, remakes, and sequels are bad now then just wait until AI start taking over the film industry.

[@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit]

@@kittykittybangbang9367 AI would definitely also be used to avoid creativity because creativity can lead to a type of creativity that the big movie corporations would dislike(look at disney and their unwillingness of having gay people in their movies that goes so far that they kill/heavily alter any project with any major gay characters). AI would be the last nail in the coffin for creativity. Art would be no more. There will only be "art". It would exist purely for money. There is no other meaning. It would only be a meaningless distraction for the consumer and a money making machine for the corporations. I would say that once we are at this stage of AI, then there is no more denying that we are living in a dystopia(though an extremely boring one).

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

@@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit Also I have the feeling that all of these open AI sources will only be available to the rich in the future or be hidden behind a huge paywall in the future. I feel like the rich wouldn't like somebody making AI movies or animation and then putting it out for everybody to see, and that way no one will go see their big productions. I feel like the rich are waiting for art/ filmmaking being done by human to be viewed as cringe/boomer-ish so that way The Art of filmmaking by humans (and regular art) will be lost to time, thus making it the perfect opportunity to make all the open AI sources only available to the 1%. In the future AIs are only available to the Elite Class, and you're just going to sit down and enjoy whatever art piece and films they make. Truly dystopian.

[@edamamame4U]

This was such a fascinating topic. I work in the translation field and neural machine translation is increasingly used to keep up with market demands. A text is pre-translated using a neural machine engine and then post-edited by a translator. I feel bad for translators anymore because many of them are just becoming glorified editors. Neural machine translation is pretty horrible at some language pairs and domains like medical and pharmaceutical. However, it is getting a heck of a lot better at romance languages and more general texts. Many boutique language service companies can't even keep up with the giant conglomerate language services companies without using machine translation. It does save money, but it just makes me said that I spent years going to school and studying to be a translator only to becoming a glorified editor to a machine.

[@AKHTS]

Translator here too - absolutely agreed. Takes away all the passion and work we've put into our craft when pretty much all we're left to do is proofread what a machine came up with.

[@watsonwrote]

​@@AKHTS Unrelated, but it's cool to see someone with an Osomatsu pfp who does translation. I can't speak or read Japanese very well, so I really appreciated the Oso-san fan community for their many fan translations of interviews and CD dramas that added so many more laughs to the show.

[@AKHTS]

@@watsonwrote Aaah, sadly I can't take credit, I translate for a living but never contributed to any Ososan translation, as I only translate from English to French or vice versa TwT But I agree with you on this one, these contributions are beyond precious!!

[@TarninTheGreat]

I don't think capitalism survives this earthquake. I don't think work should be tied to your right to survival. Figuring out how we actually want to live and figuring out how to transition to that with the least harm in the process seem like the kinds of goals we should all be focusing our thoughts and discussions on. This is what I've been doing with the people in and around my life for the last few months. I'm glad to see people with larger platforms asking the same questions. UBI now, Universal Healthcare now, figuring out how to make the planet not be on fire now, ending war and poverty now. Those seem like the highest priorities for the first steps. Then we get to figure out whole new ways to make art, new ways to interact, new sciences (Did you know you can talk to plants now? Like, shit's wild.), new ways of education and resource allocation. In short, I think that there can be a bright future if we sever this long-destructive relationship with capital and rebuild human society to actually support human wellbeing this time around.

[@ek7652]

In one part that seemed really robotic-like to me and I couldn't even pay attention to what exactl was being said, I started wondering if it was made (written) by an AI and if there will be a reveal at the end, which then made me think that it would be actually a very logical step since it's a video about AI... 😀 I agree with other commenter saying that it's a capitalism problem. I find it weird how many people are like "oh my, what jobs are people going to do now", while I'm like "well, if it successfully replaces people, then... I mean, it's good? Because people can do whatever they want then, as long as some universal income is established."...

[@johntowers1213]

A life without purpose can often come unraveled... Not to say I disagree with you as many if not most jobs today are simple drudgery a means to an end to keep ones self and family alive..So seeing people given the ability to forge their own path freed from such chains is very attractive.. However I'm not entirely convinced we as a society..or a species for that matter are able to prosper when all our basic needs are met without effort or hardship..That is were not particularly great when not being pushed by either nature or society to do something. I've a nasty feeling we're already seen signs of a human variant of the Calhoun Mouse Utopia experiment unfolding about us.. where the displacement of huge numbers of humans from the workforce but given a UBI in place of a wage would likely cause an acceleration of societal collapse rather than a blossoming of a more enlightened age..

[@ek7652]

@@johntowers1213 Life without paid work doesn't necessarily make people do nothing. It's a common misconception. But we can see on many people who aren't employed (such as retired people) that there's always something to do. Cleaning, gardening, helping out other family members and/or the community, learning new skills etc. Some people who aren't employed that I know are the most busy and helpful people around. Also many people that I know volunteer - or would love to, but they simply can't afford to do so, because they have jobs to do. Many important jobs in this world are entirely unpaid or severely underpaid, so many people can't do them even if they have a strong passion for it. We could see even in the start of the pandemic how people got bored of sitting at home so easily and felt the need to do stuff. At first everyone wanted to rest, but then when they had plenty of rest, they wanted to do stuff again. I also think that some people actually learn more and develop more skills and passions when there's not an extreme stress and pressure on earning things like roof over their head and food on their plate. Getting basic necessities covered also doesn't necessarily mean that people would lose motivation, because many people have wishes and goals that go beyond the topic of money or it involves way more money than what people need to survive, which they would need to earn somewhere still. We as a society are often obsessed with hardship, trauma, pulling ourselves by bootstraps and what not. But often times, things getting easier... makes lives better (that also reminds me of people thinking that work from home and less working hours will be a catastrophe for everyone and productivity will generally go down, when it in a lot of cases went up). I'm not going to pretend I read everything about the topic, I still have a lot to read, but after my own experiences, learning about other people and reading few studies about what happens when people can gain more stability of basic things in life and about UBI etc., I personally see it pretty optimistically. Or at least not negatively. I understand where you're coming from, but I view it differently. Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of concerns about humanity, our society and the future, but if everything falls apart, I don't think the culprit would be people always having food on their plate and getting used to how it feels to not to live in constant fear that they won't have a place to live if they don't manage to work enough hours or even enough jobs.

[@johntowers1213]

@@ek7652 That's a fair take on the topic. I don't consider myself an oracle in regards to how things will play out... and at the scale of change were talking about I'd be vary wary of anyone that claimed they did with any degree of certainty.. what I will say is that Purpose is important.. be it forced upon an individual through necessity or one of self definition. where when forced purpose is removed the self defined purpose can often be destructive, miss aligned with the society the individual exist with in, or simply non existent. As we stand today we're already on the verge of a post scarcity world (the western parts at least) where most material hardships have been pushed to the background for the majority of westerners and "problems" such as they are are ones of relativism rather than absolutism in their nature... And yet we've never been more miserable more ill content with our lot, or more mentally maladjusted even when we would appear to our ancestors to be living lives of shear opulence.. The work we do right now isn't making is particularly happy either so seeing it dealt a death blow, would be no great loss, yet I honestly feel were not yet capable as a society to shed it on mass without something structured to take its place..something more than the hobbies or side jobs we currently fill our spare time with now just write large..and spread across a lifetime.

[@ek7652]

@@johntowers1213 I'm personally kind of... against forcing purpose upon people... I personally think we're all deep down capable of finding our own purpose when it comes to it, if we're given the resources to learn and encouraged. We're just made to think in this current state of things that we aren't capable of it, which is why we constantly hear that basically everyone should grind more than 40+ hours a week in poor jobs for miserable money... it's convenient for certain people to spread some nonsense about how people need to be basically forced to do things to actually do something and how everything would definitely collapse otherwise etc. "Purpose" can be destructive, misaligned with society or non-existent even when forced. But people rarely care about it, because that's where we already are, it's our "normal" that we're so used to seeing. (And also... so what if someone doesn't feel like they have some greater purpose, don't overthink life that much and simply go about their small daily tasks... who are we even to dictate this...). The thing with material hardships is kind of... more complicated. On one hand it seems like there's little hardship, because we're so developed, but on the other everything is so expensive that some people are homeless. Some people are starving. Some people (actually a lot of people) can't offer proper healthcare. Some people have to live in small apartments with their whole families. Some people cannot afford to start a family or have their own place to live. It's a contradictory world, on one hand we seem to have everything, but on the other we don't, because powerful people often love to keep others struggling. What was possible few decades ago in terms of buying a home isn't possible now etc. There's such a huge disparity/inequality between people that it's almost unreal, on one hand there are billionaires with money so much money that it's hard to imagine, on the other hand there are people who are constantly in debt, because they have no other choice. I'm not surprised that we're miserable: we're living in times where everything is extremely fast paced and overstimulating, people face higher and higher demands when it comes to schooling, there's often little to no work-life balance (people are expected to be on call all the time etc.), people are overworked and tired, there's no sense of community and everyone in need of genuine love and support is rather send to therapy and psychiatric care, pollution in environment, weather changing and so much more... it would be weird if people didn't feel miserable. I honestly personally think that a lot of people who think that people can't exist without the working system that we have right now are mostly simply unable to imagine it (simply because they're too used to what we have now and they fear what would they do if they had to see their lives through different lens and maybe re-build their lives a bit - which makes sense), not that it would be impossible (or are alternatively projecting).

[@johntowers1213]

@@ek7652 Again thats a reasonable take.. but to be clear by forced purpose I'm not taking about at gunpoint here... forced as in the same way we force people into schooling of one sort or another to mold them into a hopefully better formed individual.. forced as in a process we'd need to undergo to guide us to our purpose based on the individual at hand. If I had to critic your stance its one simply that your perhaps overly optimistic about human nature and the individuals (in aggregate)..desire and ability to find their own purpose in a world without structure set in place to walk them to it. Some of the most interesting people I know have never held down a 9-5 job and benefited greatly from it...whilst conversely some of the worst examples of humanity I've ever had the displeasure to interact with were equally free of the daily grind.. living petty mean spirited lives utterly rudderless and lost...and choosing to take out that pain on those around them The question then becomes how many of the later can a society sustain before it implodes ?

[@orfeassiozos1575]

I saw on your Twitter that there was *_a moment_* in the video that I should expect, and I imagined that there would be an AI reveal of some sort, but I was still completely and utterly aghast and shocked by the reveal, even after pausing for a good half minute and coming up with different scenarios as to what I could be. It was such an interactive and direct way to get the audience to sit with our own feelings on this topic and I'm really glad you took a moment after to explain what our potential feelings might represent.

[@paranoidpixie95]

48:50 I am glad you addressed this point, because one of my greatest fears is that society ends up in such a way where every industry is replaced by automation. Ultimately, we're still going to need to satiate our basic needs for food, water, shelter, etc. And right now, we're living in such a way that says we must commit to a job to earn the right to do that. I worry about a globalised, fully-automated workforce because it feels like the push stems solely from a profiteering perspective (see how self-serve checkouts are asking for tips now). And I don't trust corporations to provide for the entire human race at their expense.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

And I still would hate to end up in a future like Wall-e, where robots do everything and humans do nothing but consume.

[@H.P.93]

There's been a push to use more AI in my industry, but my company has yet to do much with it, in part because we keep having clients come to us with reports from competitors who use more AI asking us to look into something in those results, and within 15 min of our own search we can easily determine those results are not related to what they are concerned with.

[@apersonlikeanyother6895]

AI is a wonderful leap in technology. As productivity increases capitalism becomes increasingly redundant. Every argument against AI is really a disguised argument against capitalism and for a better organisation without the drain of profits flowing out.

[@eric3347]

I couldn't hear a word Gabe said because he had a horse behind him.

[@crys_cornflakez]

I wanted to go into either voice acting or law. I do voice acting as a hobby and have been working as an undergrad to be as prepared for law school as possible. Now it feels impossible. Voice actors are already falling hard to ai and It doesn’t seem like something even as supposedly steadfast as law is going to leave unscathed. I’m honestly scared. It feels like nothing I choose will lead to a good life for myself or my family. I will be replaced and unable to pay for anything. It’s horrifying. Hearing that chargpt wrote the script mad meg heart drop, I felt defeated again. Like nothing mattered. Thank you for the pick me up afterward letting us know how you did write it. It was small but this video did help me get a grip on things. Thank you so much Rowan

[@ringsroses]

On the law side of things you may have heard about the lawyer that tried passing off some AI stuff as his own work and got caught. But, it really underscores that people are still very necessary... particularly people who are skilled enough at what they do to be able to recognize lies, misinformation and other things that are plainly wrong. Even in something like voice acting, I think you'll find that it's important to really engage with what you do. AI is most often implemented in the most surface ways and there's a real fragility in building in that way.

[@carlosdumbratzen6332]

Finally a leftist video, that is both appreciating the dangers and the limitation of AI. Sadly alot of discussions I had with friends and online tend to range on either side of the spectrum. No, the singularity is not just around the corner, but this new technology isnt just another chatbot.

[@Multihuntr0]

Well done on a great video that avoided many of the pitfalls around highlighting only surface-level problems. Most people would stop at "AI doesn't work sometimes; therefore AI bad", but you covered it with a good attention to nuance. In particular, I appreciated that you got the opinions of several people who are being directly affected by it and looked deeply at the ways that people are trying to work with these new algorithms. I research deep learning as a job, but I think that this video crystalised to me that that just means I understand its limitations, and that the effects of AI right now are more political and sociological than they are technical. The biggest point I appreciated that you brought up was that even if AI is bad at a job, people in charge might just use it anyway. Sure, I can describe how it will fail, and the effects for a business naively implementing it. But as you showed with the postal worker; managers don't care. Or, more precisely, the people making decisions just cannot fathom that a computer can calculate something incorrect and will go ahead anyway saying something about the future belonging to the bold. On the other side, when it does work, then it is clearly ridiculous that - as a species - getting more work done through automation is making it harder for people to live their lives. Just like you, it seems to me that UBI is the obvious solution, so I am glad you mentioned it. Finally, I don't know if you care, but the idea we are in the "4th industrial revolution" is an idea from Klaus Schwab himself, and is not really a consensus. I know, I know, he talks like it's absolute truth, but it's just a book he's selling. I guess the same thing is true of the 3rd industrial revolution, too, but it's been longer since that book and I guess it worked. I just want to reduce the number of people condescendingly tell others that "there's actually 4 industrial revolutions, you know", despite it all being arbitrary delineations some rich guy made up.

[@Gloommix]

Capitalism does everything in its power to take contemplation away from us, but by seeking community we can begin to carve it out. Coworkers, neighbors, unions etc seem to be great places to start. We need to imagine a better world, but once we start speaking to others about it it gains power ten fold.

[@cayel9277]

"AI is dangerous in a capitalist society" sounds a lot like "hammers are dangerous to houses built above deadly spike pits"

[@user-vw4xp5nt9f]

holy shit thats a real horse

[@user-vw4xp5nt9f]

in the bg of an interview holy shit

[@harpbeat500]

Rowan, youtuber: This was written by AI Me, cs dev: Wait, how much editing must have happened for this much continuity in thought? Aren't we already over 5k words. Rowan: I lied. Me: Few, I knew it all along.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Happy Pride Month! 🌈 Thank you for the Queer Discourse you provide and fostering a safe space with a vibrant community. Wishing you a great month ahead!

[@timburtonluver28]

I will never forget the wise words of my computer literacy teacher from grade 9: Computers are stupid. What he specifically meant though was that: anything a computer can do, whether that be a straightforward program or an AI has to be something WE tell it. It can never think for itself, and so AI will never fully surpass human capability and will always carry the errors and biases we feed it because WE CANNOT ALWAYS SPOT THEM. Even the most intelligent supercomputer that won against the world champion of chess (Deep Blue) was encountering errors and making foolish mistakes until the end. It winning was as much about luck and circumstance as it was the program improving incrementally. An AI will never have the sentience of a human… But it’s really not looking good that the wealthier people and employers in society don’t seem to care about that.

[@creativedesignation7880]

Don't rerad this, if you aren't past like 46:30 in the video. I was honestly just in disbelief and questioning my own mind, because I refused to believe I would not be able to spot it for a good 45 minutes. I was really relieved to know that No, it's not that good yet.

[@glowteehee6579]

Two amazing creators making videos about the ai epidemic? Yes please.

[@taniar2739]

This is literally a Black Mirror episode 😩

[@robderiche]

Not saying it’s for everyone, but after getting a couple of degrees and enduring a few bullshit desk jobs I started working in construction as unskilled laborer, focused on learning as much as I could about building, and now I’m a self-employed carpenter making a better than average wage. I enjoy the work, keep what I earn (vs. making someone else rich), and have decent job security for as long as my body holds up. There are many possible paths in life.

[@borderlineramblings5940]

This is my favourite video from you so far, Rowan. I let out an audible “woah” at the faux ending. Great stuff!

[@tuylosotroslgbt9414]

You just blew my freaking my mind when you said that chat gpt wrote this 🤯🤯🤯 and then again when you said that you didn't, you really messed up my head, plot twist after plot twist.

[@roosterskylarsultan3510]

really great video. im an artist but my kind of art is unlikely to be affected by AI, but as most of my friends are also artists i was very uneasy about AI and would not support or use it. I had not considered all of the other fields that are being negatively affected by AI. I am grateful that I now have a better understanding of AI' impact and can better express to people who use and support AI why its problematic. thank you

[@tarumakela5075]

This video had my jaw on the floor! Such a good use of your talents!

[@tempvsfrangit3854]

In ''The Book of Boba Fett'', the two episodes with 'Master Luke', Mark Hamill was not involved. A body-double did the physical movements, but digital recordings of Mr. Hamill's face and voice were used to make it seem it was actually him, akin to the posthumous recreations of young Leia and GM Tarkin for 'Rough One' [yes typo humour]. Sure he was compensated for them using his likeness or we would certainly have heard about it.

[@mf--]

Yeah. That's whack. Very dystopian immortal and unaging characters with long dead actors.

[@estanceveyrac]

Well, I used to be a translator, that job has almost completely disappeared, because of machine learning, which I helped trained .It's no longer viable as a career, the payement for freelance translating is dropped so much now it's close to 0 & freelance is most of what the industry used to be.

[@deirenne]

To the "What if this was all done by ChatGPT?" question - I thought there's no way in hell *all* of it was written by Chat, maybe just the last part before question, because the tone felt off, so I started scrolling to the description to check... and once you reveled that it wasn't, I genuinely felt more anxious than before, because yeah *this time* I got it right, but what if I feel overconfident based on some other creator jokey "AI wrote this video" content. No one is more easily fooled than a person that believes to be infallible, so I guess thanks for the anxiety XD

[@altrag]

To the CEO laying off hundreds of workers while claiming he can't find hundreds of workers with a "different skill set": That's on you bud. _You_ are the one who has to pay for the skills you require, either by directly retraining your employees instead of laying them off, or by paying sufficiently high wages for those positions that people become willing to invest in the training themselves. Workers are there because they need a paycheck. They aren't there to do you favors.

[@trashketchum9782]

AI was meant to do the tedious jobs so humans could focus on creative pursuits such as art or writing. only late capitalism could’ve fucked things up so badly that it’s turned out to be the complete opposite

[@freebird7369]

AI is growing. It will just keep getting better so our opinions of it today are good for only today, not tomorrow.

[@beccangavin]

I’ve been asked to help the team working on giving my job to AI. It’s an interesting experience. My bosses all the way up to the top don’t understand the limitations. They keep trying to outsource and automate but we’re running out of people that actually understand how our business works which is making it harder to actually monitor our business. Our internal systems are breaking because they are being built by people who don’t know how we work.

[@whitleytaylor81]

This video is amazing!! Thank you for working so hard putting it together. A lot of what you brought up are thoughts had float through my mind without getting to dive into them further. Hope this is the encouragement you need to do more videos like this!!

[@justmila1992]

I just found your channel last night and I LOVE the depth and range of perspective you offer keep up the good work!!!

[@DontMockMySmock]

when you said ai had wrote the video, i definitely had a reaction. so it was interesting to hear you talk about potential reactions to that revelation, and not see my reaction represented. my thoughts were basically, "ai wrote this video? bull-fucking-shit. it was way too coherent and sensible and argumentative and good. either it was an outline that was written section by section with extensive prompting, and with a layer of editing by ellis, or that's just a bold-faced lie." anyway nice to know my bullshitometer is calibrated correctly

[@BooksRebound]

Honestly… take the jobs. Take all of them. Shake society up, offer UBI, reform capitalism and usher in a utopia. Thats what I want. Sadly I don't think it would be peaceful, but I can imagine a future where jobs are gone, it causes civil unrest, people demand reform, and maybe the world gets better. Like 1) in a corporation, it's your fiduciary duty to make as much money as you possibly can. So no wonder corporations are like this. Its money at the expense of all else. But a world where money was tied to hunan happiness would be great. Create a misery tax. If your corporation pollutes, massive fines. If you violate human rights, criminal investigation. Universal human rights are not in fact universal. But they should be.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Maybe you hate your job, but I work in theater. I like working backstage and a utopia to me is one like the world in Star Trek where people still work, but you won’t starve if you stop working because they are post-capitalisim. My biggest issue with my job is how long it took to be survivable. I’d love a society where what ‘work’ looks like is just different. Where thete isn’t a threat of losing the roof over your head because you’d rather work with small theater companies over large broadway ones. I also don’t want robot flourist, painters, writers, baristas…there are jobs that aren’t data entry or office work where humans doing them is part of the experience. Even Lawyers have value as human beings. Robots can work in warehouses though. AI would prob be awesome at sorting boxes. Kill THOSE jobs, not all jobs.

[@BooksRebound]

@@TheDawnofVanlife Yeah no, you can still work. I'm sure almost everyone would so they could make extra money, but the point is that you wouldn't have to simply to survive. People would just work doing what they want to when they want to do it.

[@localabsurdist6661]

Sure bc it worked so well with other revolutions in history…

[@draw4everyone]

@@localabsurdist6661you must break eggs to cook an omelette.

[@celeste6943]

Brilliant video. Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to do this research and ask these questions. I hope the more hopeful ideas you presented start entering the larger conversation around AI.

[@j.kessler1066]

i do actually relate very deeply to this chronic feeling of despair and utter hopelessness. it is way to easy for teens fall into the nihilism trap because wherever you look, be it global political or socioeconomic events, climate change or even "silly social media", you probably end up with a dampened mood. at least.

[@morbid1.]

problem with basic income is that landlords will rise rent to at least match this income, leaving people w/o any money for anything else...

[@opalminx8240]

A lot of people are not thinking about this. Plus most states don't have source of income regulations to protect renters from these landlords

[@user-wi3yx3gy2o]

We’re staring the end of our society in the face. Parents are raising children and neither believe they can visualize a future for those children that is as good or better than the parents’ lives and which don’t feel purely aspirational or naive to one or both.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Honestly with AI, automation, and climate change I feel like Humanity has already reached its peak and now we're in the downfall era.

[@davidj6755]

It’s great to see people taking this seriously. I’m so tired of hearing the unequivocal statement “new technology always brings new jobs”

[@helenmaclay7012]

Thank you for making this video and asking these questions!

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

Personally I LOVE ChatGPT as a disability aid. For me, I use it to help with my ADHD. I need to do a lot of high level writing for my job. I have a very good sense of what the that writing should convey, why, and to whom. But I have trouble both starting and finishing drafts. I am very good at editing, including a total rewrite during the editing process. I will write very long prompts that include copies of the sources I want to rely on. Then I will get a first draft, totally rewrite it, then ask ChatGPT to alter my rewrite according to some parameter. In that way, I can complete my work (completing being very hard for me) in a reasonable timeframe. It takes way more drafts and way more editing, but way less drafting.

[@manuallybreathing]

is that a fucking horse 37:44

[@KurtesolWafelosi]

Thanks a lot! Incredible video, loved that you asked people from different industries ❤

[@phoenixperson8296]

This was incredible, I really appreciated this deep dive into this very complex topic and especially the bit of optimism at the end there

[@marchwhitlock6455]

Joke's on you; my reaction was immediately "Bullshit. This wasn't written by AI."

[@emilyrln]

When you said this was an AI script, my thought was "No way! A couple months ago Zoe Bee posted an AI script that was a whole lasagna of nonsense! How tf did it get this good this quickly??" 😂

[@Bustermachine]

People have been conditioned to think that the tech industry is magic and so we uncritically accept whatever is stated about it. Keep in mind that people were suckered by Elizabeth Holmes, Crypto Currencies, and NFTs, to the tune of tens of billions of dollars, while Machine Learning tools have actual valid use cases. So even if the current crop of AI is nowhere near as robust as people are claiming, it's going to be lot easier to hype it up. Not to say you shouldn't be deeply cautious or keep a close eye on this. I could be totally wrong, I understand that. Just remember that the tech industry is desperate for anything to be the next big thing to keep VC money flowing through the doors. Edit : Personally, one things that's been causing me to narrow my eyes a lot with ChatGPT is that when I play around with it to write stories, it tends to use common forms in its paragraphs regardless of the kind of story I'm telling it to write, and it tends to return to these forms after paraphrasing me. Like, a lot . . . If I type something in, I'll realize that the only really non standard part of the prompt is a lose rewording what I said. Computer generated stories that use modular writing techniques are not a new technology. But ChatGPT's big breakthrough is that it can more organically parse requests from its user. Once you have that, you can play all sorts of tricks very easily. Same with the current crop of 'Generative Programs'. Once you know how they work, you understand that they have no concept of what they're generating and in fact cannot have a concept of it based on how they operate. They're totally dependent on the human instilled meaning in their models.

[@emilyrln]

@@Bustermachine Interesting. I have yet to play with any AI tools, but they do intrigue me :) And yeah, agree 100% with the hype-ability of AI as well as the actual utility of it as opposed to tech scams like bitcoin, NFTs, and blood-test machines that don't work.

[@clthefrog]

I really appreciate how you included perspectives on AI from a wide range of people and put it the context of previous patterns of social change

[@hailey__pryor]

this is such an important and interesting video. as somebody who works in publicity and interacts w/ journalists often, i am really anxious about the way that the media landscape has been changing. it was so interesting to hear about how these news outlets have been *attempting* to use AI to straight-up produce content - and how often it ends up failing!