AI in the Just Dance Community (check desc!)

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@findanceyt 5 ай бұрын

YET ANOTHER UPDATE: People seem to be stopping the video at 2 minutes and then commenting, and it's clear they are not really understanding my argument. Please, watch the full video before commenting! No harm is meant and I'm simply trying to express my opinions on AI! ANOTHER UPDATE: It has come to my attention that 2 out of the 3 descriptions I showed at 3:35 did in fact have credits! My fault for not seeing that. I seemed to be taking my screenshots right as he was updating them. I would suggest that they be moved up instead of being at the bottom because I very easily missed them and other people might too! 😭 UPDATE: Since this video was made, Jorge has updated the descriptions to credit the original dancers. My point still stands in that ANYONE using AI should be crediting from the start! Once again, no hate intended and thanks for the support on the vid!

@joaoquintinonascimento4271 5 ай бұрын

I also think people should create coreos for this type of content to not be stealing random coreos from KZbin i kinda wanna do this for Jorge so he doesen't have to steal random dance videos on KZbin

@elisanabiale2998 5 ай бұрын

He has literally credited them and you can see it in your own video at 3:34 😭😭

@findanceyt 5 ай бұрын

Sorry for the late pin on this comment, was waiting for verification

@CaverDance 4 ай бұрын

ur a flop

@gll_07 5 ай бұрын

I don't agree with those people who are mad about him using A.I. Jorge has been doing these caches and map concepts for a long time, the only difference now is that he makes the coaches dance with the help of a tool. He's an independent Just Dance KZbinr, he's not getting paid for making these videos, he's just having fun. You should be so outraged if it was Ubisoft itself (a billion dollar company) using A.I. in its game. Furthermore, I loved the concepts of his new fanmades. And relax a little, guys.

@findanceyt 5 ай бұрын

All great points! Wasn't trying to come across as hateful but can understand how I might have slipped up a bit by solely focusing on his work. Just wanted to express how I felt about A.I In general, I guess, using Jorge's latest videos as an example. Like I mention in the video, the best way to deal with this isn't to be hateful, and instead engage in productive discourse to actively stop anything hateful from happening. If you see anyone hating on him on behalf of me I am extremely sorry for that and don't encourage it!

@justdancelights 5 ай бұрын

Exactly, they act like if Jorge would have committed a crime when he is just feeding us with an animated fanmade SONGLIST while other song lists are boring and don't even have fanmade coaches, he has said a lot of times that those aren't full fanmades gameplays, just small parts of his SONGLIST

@joaoquintinonascimento4271 5 ай бұрын

In his descriptions of his recent previews he credited some coreos he used

@alexoy2k 5 ай бұрын

check pinned

@Littezilla_YT 5 ай бұрын

only after me and others asked if he could credit them

@justdancelights 5 ай бұрын

I just think you are overreacting, Jorge is feeding us with cool and different content while he has been making mashups for years and now he is making his own fanmade songlist with concepts animating his Photoshop edited coaches with Viggle which is a cool tool, and tools are for helping to make things. He has stated 1000 times he is not making a real game or full gameplay choreos, just JD previews style to make us feel we are in a “real” JD era with his characters and thats all, he is NOT making fanmades like the fanmades you can find by other creators, his previews are not fanmade MAPS, those are just small parts of a FULL song list he is making while other people upload fanmade song lists using music videos and not even fanmade coaches. And thats all. There are more people using viggle in the JD community and people are only talking about him because he is succeeding with his interesting project and people like to make people feeo bad, because yes, you are making him feel bad. And thats all, I don't see this energy when people from the community post stolen media from Ubisoft to edit it in a JD3 style or leak the game though.

@KirbyMasta999 5 ай бұрын

Mindju remakes made with leaked files from Ubisoft still require human input and creativity so I fail to see how this has anything to do with using AI slop to steal choreos

@findanceyt 5 ай бұрын

Hi! Like I said in another reply this is not just about Viggle. I have no problem with Viggle. What concerns me more is the use of AI generated backgrounds and the worrying initial lack of credit to any of the original dancers. I don't know if you really understood my points correctly and would recommend watching the video fully, this video was not made for the purposes of hate or to make people 'feel bad'. As for 'overreaction', I just simply wanted to express my opinions on AI. As a small creator of 500 and Jorge as a large creator of 32 thousand, I feel like I should be able to represent the smaller voices in the community who feel disrespected and misrepresented.

@justdancelights 5 ай бұрын

@@KirbyMasta999 If you think AI made the whole videos you are so wrong lmaooo He has been editing these for months, and also he edites his coaches on Photoshop like he has been doing for years, if the problem here is the lack of creativity you know nothing about how ai works

@justdancelights 5 ай бұрын

@@findanceyt And whats the difference between using existing backgrounds from KZbin to make them with ai? Even though he makes most of his backgrounds by himself, you all are just haters 😭

@elisanabiale2998 5 ай бұрын

“Jorge doesnt credit the choreos” and then the video shows up a screenshot saying “Credits to FitDanceLife” at 3:34 a

@elisanabiale2998 5 ай бұрын

And also credits to FitnessMarshall, you can literally read it almost at the end of the photo

@Littezilla_YT 5 ай бұрын

JORGE DIDNT CREDIT SHIT AND THEN NOW HE DOES IT

@Littezilla_YT 5 ай бұрын

anyways

@elisanabiale2998 5 ай бұрын

@@Littezilla_YT It’s literally written in the descriptions and you can read the credits in this video at 3:34, so the video is also lying

@findanceyt 5 ай бұрын

Hey! Thank you for pointing this out. I've updated the comment and description with an addendum

@L_tlu Ай бұрын

How did you get the Just dance 2023 background?

@lemonadeaquarium 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, even if its harder or slower to do, I'll always apreciate self made and creative stuff over ai garbage, loved this video, hope you make more in this style in the future!

@bestdancer-jd 5 ай бұрын

i completely agree with u and in the videos from jorge he covers **ALOT** of the glitches on the coaches but like no hate to him bc his old concepts ate but we don’t need ai in this community because it ruins the creative element of this community

@CaverDance 4 ай бұрын

findance is a FLOP. like this comment if you agree.

@shabifanmades2212 5 ай бұрын

thank you for making a video on this topic, it only feels right of this time for someone to make a video about this. i agree with essentially every single point. and i hope to see more videos like this in the future

@AverokageMashups 5 ай бұрын

honestly even if he credited the people who made the choreo, it still feels weird because he didn't ask permission for using them as far as i know putting a choreography somebody worked on through a bad looking ai and then crediting them 10 lines down a description isn't great i've liked jorge's content for years, he was one of the inspirations for me starting a channel in the first place but him relying on ai so much for this just feels... bad i loved 2024 fanmade edition, i thought the lore he came up with for it was really well done, and the covers he made were also great i didn't care that they didn't move or anything, in fact it kinda added to the experience of imagining the concept but 2025 fanmade edition so far just feels like he threw some images into some ai systems and put a HUD over it because he basically did

@bewd9440 5 ай бұрын

This wasn’t made on linux

@Littezilla_YT 5 ай бұрын

AI doesn’t deserve to be in the just dance community Stealing Choreos (even if it’s from games like Dance Central) even coming from big dance choreographers like The Fitnes Marshall. Yes It Helps but the lack of credit just like you said i wish it could’ve done in a different way I Really Agree with you and possibly AI will be no more

@elisanabiale2998 5 ай бұрын

So then mash ups should not exist because they are stealing just dance choreos or fitted dances???????

@Littezilla_YT 5 ай бұрын

@@elisanabiale2998 Mashups where made by ubisoft and atleast we still credit ubisoft

@Littezilla_YT 5 ай бұрын

@@elisanabiale2998 AI is basically getting something to make it for yourself

@lemonadeaquarium 5 ай бұрын

@@elisanabiale2998 thats not the same thing at all lol

@Littezilla_YT 5 ай бұрын

@@elisanabiale2998 it’s not even the same thing

@JustAdrian 5 ай бұрын

Id understand using ai if it looked good at least but its terrible idk how anyone likes it 😭

@Hund12 5 ай бұрын

Agreed 100%! Well, I understand why Jorge is using AI - he wants to bring his concepts to life, show us a bit of what he imagined them to be. Unfortunately he ended up stealing choreos, which... kind of breaks my previous point. Anyways, I don't think he will stop. People seem to like what he does.

@SneakFlow 5 ай бұрын

I'm still iffy on the idea of using AI to 'enhance' Just Dance concepts, because the way it was done here, was honestly taking steps backwards because it made the concepts feel lifeless. Using choreos from Dance Central is fine, still should've credited it from the start, but using choreos from other content creators is just... wrong, even with credit, because Jorge didn't get their permission to put their choreos through a wonky AI program. At the very least, Jorge should've made choreos of their own. Which is why I liked the concept of Just Dance X. Not only did it have it's own lore tied to it, but the Creator (Just Dance World) even made short choreo concepts for each song that was included in the fanmade song list. That is an example of how to make Just Dance concepts feel more alive. While it's completely fine to use AI for fun, and I do believe it can be used as a starting point, it shouldn't be used as a crutch to the point of making it feel like the person just doesn't care about creativity or effort anymore.

@justdancelights 5 ай бұрын

I just think you (and overall everyone in the comments) are overreacting, Jorge is feeding us with cool and different content while he has been making mashups for years and now he is making his own fanmade songlist with concepts animating his Photoshop edited coaches with Viggle which is a cool tool, and tools are for helping to make things. He has stated 1000 times he is not making a real game or full gameplay choreos, just JD previews style to make us feel we are in a “real” JD era with his characters and thats all, he is NOT making fanmades like the fanmades you can find by other creators, his previews are not fanmade MAPS, those are just small parts of a FULL song list he is making while other people upload fanmade song lists using music videos and not even fanmade coaches. And thats all. There are more people using viggle in the JD community and people are only talking about him because he is succeeding with his interesting project and people like to make people feeo bad, because yes, you are making him feel bad. And thats all, I don't see this energy when people from the community post stolen media from Ubisoft to edit it in a JD3 style or leak the game though. Edit: He also said he has a busy life, he can't spend all the time he wishes to make content and that's why AI helps the process.

@findanceyt 5 ай бұрын

Exactly! Tysm for sharing your thoughts! I agree that AI can be used as a great tool, but you shouldn't rely entirely on it at all.

@justdancelights 5 ай бұрын

@@findanceyt Its not entirely. Do you think coaches are this good looking with ai? Gosh you know nothing

@Marcoona_. 5 ай бұрын

thank u fin for calling it out, i honestly 100% agree with all these points in ur video and i really hope jorge can go back to the stuff he was doing :( he has lost creativity for me these recent times. Me and alot of other people will always appreciate something made with love and hard work instead of using AI.

@findanceyt 5 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was trying to say! ty marc

@Justsafe 5 ай бұрын

My opinion: AI can be used in the right way, as long as they don't use it to steal work and it's other people's art, and Jorge's question doesn't give credit, and it's very disrespectful.

@justdancelights 5 ай бұрын

Are you blind? The choreo credits are in 3:34, the person who is talking in this video is LYING, anyways the videos aren't real fanmades, they are just a fanmade song list and thats all, but yes, Jorge gave credit so stop spreading lies

@Justsafe 5 ай бұрын

@@justdancelights My dear, come on, I said it wrong, yes, but there's no point in giving credit for a choreography like yours

@justdancelights 5 ай бұрын

@@Justsafe Those are 30 seconds they arent even real fanmades lmao while half of the community makes full songs editing people dancing to K-pop and more choreos and nobody credited them, where are your energy asking it for them then? Again, I think you are being hypocrite, since this only hates on him while half of the community uses choreos from youtube and I dont see you complaining 🤨