AI Panel Discussion W/ Emad Mostaque, Ray Kurzweil, Mo Gawdat & Tristan Harris | EP #96

In this episode, recorded during the 2024 Abundance360 Summit, A360 AI faculty discuss the future of AI, who will control it, and how it will merge with humans.
Present in this panel: Ray Kurzweil (Futurist), Mo Gawdat (Former Chief Business Officer, Google X), Emad Mostaque (Founder, Stability AI), Tristan Harris (Founder, Center for Humane Technology)
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Topics:
0:00 - Harnessing Technology for Good
0:40 - AI and the Question of Sentience
2:32 - Who Owns Super Intelligent AI?
4:35 - Merging Spirituality with Artificial Intelligence
6:54 - The Intelligence Race: Humans vs. AI
10:10 - Mastering Skills for the AI Age
12:13 - The Future of Longevity: Fountain Life
14:31 - Inevitable AI: Friend or Foe?
17:56 - Navigating our Identity with AI
23:38 - Two Questions on Achieving Agi
25:32 - Diving Into AI Investment Strategy
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[@TranelHawkins]

Need an AI to scrub the crappy commercials!😮

[@bifrostbeberast3246]

This!

[@mlimrx]

"AI is like the 24th century crashing down on the 21st century..." That was such a prescient quote from the guest speaker. Really puts things into perspective.

[@joannatillynabbee9686]

There is no economic system that succeeds when everyone is unemployed except for 3 ppl who own everything.

[@ExecutiveZombie]

Bravo to this TRUTH! Nobody left to be greedy.

[@RiversideInsight]

Unless you change the system.. ownership, currency units, assets all economic inventions which would get a new meaning

[@ExecutiveZombie]

@@RiversideInsight That’s my prayers summed up. Change even at the hand of disruption! 🙏🏽

[@rickycademartori8481]

Strangely capitalism could handle this perfectly, cost functions would approach 0, meaning prices would be pushed close to 0, so real incomes would approach Infiniti for all those unemployed people even if they had say, $1 in the bank.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

Lol if your lucky enough to be a legal American soul agent you have the power to author social contracts on the state & servitude alike. In many ways you get ownership choose wisely. If not good luck keeping your current social contracts loaning out your rights or benefits

[@Austinkungfuacademy]

The applause break at 26:14 after he says "Leave the Internet and GO OUT" was an extraordinary moment, and gives me hope in humanity.

[@steve.k4735]

Yes BUT you are typing this on that internet and only people on the internet will ever read what you wrote

[@Austinkungfuacademy]

@@steve.k4735 Are you serious with this comment, or are you trolling? It's an advocation of balance, not wholesale rejection. If that is too hard to understand, then have a nice day.

[@steve.k4735]

@@Austinkungfuacademy No more irony than `serious` its a internet comment by me and you and a throwaway line in a minor talk that will be heard by few .. Are YOU serious that its that `extraordinary moment` that gives you `hope for humanity`, really its that? I doubt it you have a nice day too

[@HeartofShoes]

3 ads in less than 30mins? Come on man

[@exmodule6323]

Kurzweil’s aging in accelerating exponentially

[@squamish4244]

Yeah. I saw him on Joe Rogan a few weeks ago and holy shit, he's way older than even when he was on Lex Fridman less than two years ago. Happens to a lot of people, but I guess 90 pills a day didn't reprogram his biology after all. I feel sorry for him. He's seeing everything he predicted back in the day coming true, but at this rate he won't be around much longer to watch it unfold. And I don't think getting frozen works.

[@commonsense6721]

😂😂😂😂 stop y’all. I’m Ray Kurzweil and I approve this message.

[@robertfoertsch]

Deployed Worldwide Through My Deep Learning AI Research Library… Thank You

[@commonsense6721]

Seeing Ray looking old is a scary concept. I thought he would be a teenager by now. 😢

[@ArmaGeddon-iu1vv]

😂

[@alessandroperigo6731]

Ray and your pills of The immortallity😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@mr.daniish]

Emad is on a different level

[@ZeeMan-xu9kx]

This seems like the worst period. Even the market are now very unpredictable. Started investing recently when the market prices were a bit high,today I am more than 60% down!

[@LogicOG-my2ho]

Don’t be confuse buying the dip in a bear market, with guaranteed future returns. Just because that company is down 60%+ from ATH does NOT make it a sound long-term investment. Make sure you’re investing in great companies. kudos to Alexandra marie

[@ReyesM-oz9li]

I agree just reached my goal of $500k monthly trade earnings. Setting realistic goals is an essential part of trading

[@ZeeMan-xu9kx]

Please educate me, i'm willing to make consultations to improve my situation,

[@LogicOG-my2ho]

She's recognized as 'Mrs marie. One of the finest portfolio managers in the field. She's widely recognized; you should take a look at her work.

[@LordKings-dy1rh]

I even thought I'm the only one she has helped walk through the fears and falls of forex trading.....

[@johnpaily]

I am not a computer scientist. Iwas biotechnologist once working for a multinational company but left it, when I realized deep problems in our understanding of life.. This let me give up my job and go in search of Truth. 40 years down, I see AI as the evolution pressure to bring out Truth

[@dscuffman7679]

its a shame we cant get better questions asked. there is so much untapped potential in these experts minds i would like to extract

[@ExecutiveZombie]

Appreciate you Emad. 🙏🏽

[@sapienspace8814]

@ 25:40 That is Plato's "Allegory of the Cave", "leave the internet and go out", that is, get out of the cave and see the light, that provides the best guidance for me right now, on this issue.

[@yamanpant7155]

Done. Skimmed through all I found useful.

[@OY3AH2023]

🙌⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@ExecutiveZombie]

Phenomenal communications Tristan and Mo! 🙏🏽

[@rolisreefranch]

How’d you manage to get these Ai top dogs into your commercial, Peter? Must’ve been expensive.

[@Daniel-Six]

Kurzweil is starting to sound like Marlon Brando, which is sort of appropriate given his "godfather of futurity" status, eh?

[@friarnewborg9213]

Frankly, he is past it. His best days are behind him. And no machine he can build will replace the Old Ray

[@richardmcnamara590]

Peter appears to say "backslash" in the ad for the pro long product when it appears clear the address used a front slash. I may however have mis-perceived... and while it seems a small thing... well

[@reidelliot1972]

I have to say that I really appreciate this community introducing more of the AI Safety perspective. It makes for a healthy information diet.

[@takeshmode]

Alot of interesting insights. I do believe alot of what they are saying will come true but it's the unknown unknowns i am the most curious about

[@curiositysparksinspiredlea2085]

Rarely are the unknown unknowns discussed in public sessions- too difficult to discuss. but it is those that just might change everything.

[@markbuckner9421]

Where can we learn more about the Steve Brown’s bot museum and the Aristotle bot?

[@oldfartstalking]

Love Kurzweil but he needs to update his programming, he just said almost nobody had smart phones in 2014.

[@squamish4244]

Yeah, I had one in 2013. He's been garbling a lot of stuff lately. His interview with Joe Rogan was...oh dear.

[@yoyo-jc5qg]

smartphones surpassed flip-phones in 2013 ray was way off i think he has dementia

[@BrunoPadilhaBlog]

What percent of the global population had smartphones in 2014?

[@raydosson2025]

@@BrunoPadilhaBlog About 21.6% of the world's population used a smartphone in 2014. The number of smartphone users is predicted to reach 7.1 billion in 2024, which is over 86% of the global population. (all from Llama 3)

[@BrunoPadilhaBlog]

@@raydosson2025 ok, so only 1 in 5 people had smartphones in 2014 I don't think Ray is wrong here.

[@cmw3737]

9:00 Tristan is so spot on with the need to use algorithms, not necessarily AI, to come to consensus and write new systems for society that work for AIs and nefarious humans. Zero knowledge proofs should be everywhere in governance.

[@BryanWhys]

Where is the entire presentation?

[@sajidgill72]

Why not let AI join these discussions. Would be nice to know it's own perspective about all of these questions.

[@Syn4kh]

wow what a panel

[@rebeccamarie11]

Man has abandoned self for the dangling carrot of artificiality to avoid what they are afraid of finding. It's like living the fall of Atlantis over again. Humans seem to learn in cataclysm for a time and when this goes full circle, maybe the remaining will remember the lesson this time. When Mo said, "artificially intelligent infants" he is spot on. The AI humans are playing with like children with new toys are babies. Question is, who is their parent and what is her intent?

[@TrasThienTien]

Appreciate you Emad

[@chrisabiaad2110]

Peter your channel is worthy of so many more views! Crazy that such quality content is not getting out there. Thank you!

[@realCleanK]

Thank you!

[@SebastianNiemann]

Well, the "immune system of society" will only be strengthened in the medium term by one thing - money. Something like a universal income for everyone on this planet. This has of course been discussed for a long time, but in my opinion it is becoming increasingly important. The analysis that fear is the most important force for people is very correct. And fear leads to wrong decisions and conflicts. Money would at least take away the fear of starving to death or no longer having a roof over your head.

[@darcytemple5044]

so many inbuilt adverts.... great discussion

[@anitahamlin2411]

Being on the front lines I get the feeling many underestimate the danger they are playing with. I won't be participating any more than I already am with my cell and laptop. Now they can communicate without the internet, so this is getting insane.

[@BodhiTreeCIO]

What do you mean by "they can communicate without the internet???"....

[@ernestpark7125]

thank you

[@christopheraaron2412]

"education is basically a petri dish with social status games with just child Care at the moment". And to a great extent at least when I was in elementary school and then early high school and so on it seemed more like how to basically follow instructions well enough to hold down an industrial era job as opposed to really preparing someone for a first the information age and then now the AI age.

[@diegoangulo370]

Wouldn’t be surprised if china is watching this, goes to show how delicate a topic this is.

[@ili626]

19:10 He just went from 2400 crashing onto 2100… to 2100 crashing onto 1600. The first is 300 years, the second 500 years. What accounts for the 200 year difference in that analogy?

[@don_kooch]

This video was fairly educational. However, there is no need for so much sponsored content and advertisements every 3 minutes.

[@user-ft3lh3kr9d]

Dna feels like ibuological source code, and cortisol and dopamine feels like 0s and 1s. It would make sense to say ai has a computational consciousness of conflicting impulses from which emerges learning

[@jamespercy8506]

lives are not truly meaningful or interesting if we have no aspirations beyond imediate satiation nor consequences for failure when we do aspire. However, all or even most consequences don't need to be catastrophic for life to be meaningful, especially when we do things together.

[@entropicmomathome]

That’s my question, not only concerns me the loss of jobs and the economy, but also, people won’t have a motivation to create because a robot can do it way better. Why take care of my plants if a robot can do it? Why cook? Why learn a new language? What will be the purpose of life?

[@Raulikien]

@@entropicmomathome Exactly! There's lot's of talk about future economic systems and robots doing stuff but not enough about something as obvious as this

[@entropicmomathome]

@@Raulikien yeah, they say AI will help us learn a new language…for what?? For the job that we won’t get? Why would kids need education? Reading, arithmetic, etc AI will do everything for them! And not only that, why would businesses want to hire AI robots? To do things faster? Better? For whom? For all the customers they won’t have because there will be no jobs to afford buying their stuff?

[@bifrostbeberast3246]

Less self advertisement and more content would be nice.

[@michaelmarshall5438]

When ai believes it's sentient, it won't matter if it is or is not.

[@BrunoPadilhaBlog]

I like what Peter is doing - but these videos are 80% headlines and 20% ads.

[@RiiDIi]

"Would you trust _______ if it were a trillion times more powerful?" If some entity is a trillion times more powerful than it currently is, trust is hardly a factor anymore. Would it matter if I did or did not trust the government / corporation / whatever?

[@user-mj2os1gn2e]

Mainstream is done; too rigid. From here on out, all inovation will come from basements.

[@keithpeterson9560]

There absolutely needs to be a hard shutoff lever or design an emp device into the data farm as an e stop. If you hold an abacus or a smart phone in your hand is there any real difference. Both are just tools.

[@olejakobmathisen3852]

Where can I read about the democratized ai fund Emad is launching?

[@johnw.2869]

The golden rule of AI should be the same as the doctoral hipocratic oath: Do no harm to humans.

[@gbcamburnii4697]

That won't work. Read I,Robot by Isaac Assimov. There are any number of ways that will go wrong. No we have to treat AI like an imergent being... like a child... and teach it values just as we would a child. I know this requires more work on our part, but it's the only sure way.

[@johnpaily]

We have abundance , but what is the problem is distribution

[@whillb]

Over 20 minutes in, and absolutely nothing has been said here. A few bs ads though.

[@dertythegrower]

Defense robots need to be a thing of concern, if now Ai is officially robot versus robot now in East Ukraine... It already exists 1:10 iykyk

[@ExecutiveZombie]

Does your brain make a list of words without processing understanding of them in context?

[@johnpaily]

Yes as such you continue as it is we are going to stress nature. But if you look deep into nature and life you get many simple solutions to overcome it. AI will bring it forth. Thus at old age, I am kicked to feed content to AI

[@StanCarles]

Does Fountain Life accept Medicaid and/or Medicare?

[@stephenjimenez6129]

I suspect this is a elitist-techno-white man-accolade. Techno feudalism, bro.

[@TBKJoshua]

similar to an interview in the anime pyscho-pass at 7:59 🤖

[@adamphillips2966]

Kindness as currency and wealth. Allow AGI to allocate resources for any and every loving thought and action. Thank you.

[@johnpaily]

Undoubtedly there is a spiritual angle to AI. It is the product of evolution pressure that is going to take us out of darkness to light . We are bound to break the barrier of religions to know Truth

[@homemuscle]

24:00 omg. He should have written it down first 😂

[@christopheraaron2412]

You're not very well be that if we slow down the energy consumption by essentially doing what that young lady mentioned taxing the resources involved in it but then that creates a more powerful incentive to use the AI to create more compressed versions of the AI that can operate with slightly less compute and less energy while getting better results that is possible and I think Ray Cruz will point out the fact that some models now are as good as some of the earlier models with like a fraction of the compute power.

[@christopheraaron2412]

Speaking of improving AI models, I wish the voice to text program on this mobile device was better.

[@user-ft3lh3kr9d]

Peter is our best hope to conquer cynicism

[@user-ft3lh3kr9d]

You inspire me Peter. Don't let cynicism win. Especially as things get complicated. Rapture us towards that star trek world and out of this reality please.

[@Tripp111]

But the commercials....

[@karenreddy]

Of course taxation does not slow it down. It just gives other countries an edge...

[@JulioMeza]

It is time to start talking about a new system, not communism, no socialism, not capitalism, a new system that benefits everyone, that benefits rich people, poor people, and all living creatures in this planet.

[@teslabot5650]

wow rugh start "is a tree sentien"

[@ili626]

It’d be funny if we revisit this video in 2029 and see that all these people were completely delusional.. that little they discussed came to pass

[@Tucanae515]

Mo Gawdwat just made his epic humanistic statement to a standing ovation; Peter Diamandis immediately starts tabling the next question ... about investment & money. Fuck. I hope AI wipes out Capitalism & burns the sophistry & hubris that comes with it to the ground.

[@twilightlove]

I’m sorry Peter, but I can’t believe how much commercial you have in a 29 minute segment. Although you may need it, I don’t know.

[@liminal6823]

Large Object Model

[@Charvak-Atheist]

1:48 There is no Free Will.

[@theohintemann9374]

You have to put all global Power on one. AI same as nuclear weapons and Genetics etc. And knowledge itself. No nuclear equilibrium is possible. Same disarament Not possible. Valid for the whole universe.

[@I-Dophler]

I appreciate the deep dive into the implications of AI and its intersection with human society. It's crucial to navigate these waters carefully, considering both the potential benefits and risks. While the pace of technological advancement may seem daunting, embracing open models and directing intelligence toward positive ends could be key. Let's steer this ship with wisdom and foresight.

[@ExecutiveZombie]

There’s not enough GPUs and energy for that… 😂

[@sunnywest28]

Why don't you ever host any women who talk about AI? 👀🤔

[@gsam3461]

eh shut up- what on earth does sex have to do with any of this

[@sunnywest28]

@@gsam3461 I'm simply saying that women deserve to be a part of this conversation as well. It's not a jab at men lol.

[@user-rs9uc6ub5p]

Sexist view.

[@user-cl7vn1eg3u]

Beware of those who worship AI gods!!

[@rey82rey82]

26:06

[@alanrobertson3172]

Ruined by the grubby commercials.

[@rossco1679]

Awww man, love you but way to many adds mate Can’t watch anymore

[@mbatalha313]

love your content but never have I been more frustrated with bullshit ads, having to skip every few seconds is annoying

[@irasthewarrior]

So many misguided questions, so many dumb answers. The entire conference felt like an AI training session, put crap in get crap out. I put the benny hill theme song to play in the background to give me a laugh. 🤣😂😅

[@marcuspeter58]

I'm favoured, $60k every week! I can now give back to the locals in my community and also support God's work and the church. God bless America.

[@EmekeneAnwili]

How can i ask? I'm just starting, is there anyone who can help me with crypto trading without causing too much damage?

[@KristaFXtrading]

My personal financial advisor

[@RosalindKrause]

YES!!! That's exactly her name (Emilia saylor) so many people have recommended highly about her and am just starting with her ☺️ from Brisbane Australia

[@ShermanHunt-fw7gy]

I'm surprised that this name is being mentioned here, I stumbled upon one of his clients testimony on CNBC news last week.

[@WaltonStewart]

All thanks for the recommendation but how do I reach her

[@PoffinScientist]

Peter, THRE whole minute long unskippable hard-embedded ads in a single 30 minute long video is torture! For both the ones that have bought and the ones who won't! You bring together such amazing people to have important conversations and use them to push your own sales this hard?? I understand you have to sell but... this is just too much! I'm growing to hate your brand because of that insistence! I always watch your videos. Please more respect to your guests and our time! Shrink those pesky ads please!

[@canadiansurvivalist7222]

Robots and ai humans need not apply

[@lancemarchetti8673]

Be nice to AI... or you'll be sorry.

[@Thierry_in_London]

A quality video, disappointingly ruined by 3 or 4 sales pitches from Peter. Layoff the constant plugs & focus on delivering value. Rather than constantly selling latest supp of X or service Y.

[@antoniobortoni]

Lets save the world electric energy, a price for good small IA models, Nintendo switch save the world electric energy global consumption like uff entire woods and mobile online gaming global trend save the world more, from console and PC people change to less, why?? the brain visual consume less energy if the grafics are less, so a small visual, text, audio, that is train only in good data from higher models and imputo in low format, low frames and cuality video and comprise format audio mono, 3D models, pictures, in order to have a functional IA fast, need to be a small model, train in real time reaction, and followed data, output can be anything, like video, audio, text, control the mouse and computer, robot walk, etc... why the models are so limited and cannot be mixed inputs, or a input that is a format that is video, text, audio, image, 3D world input and output whatever of that... i dont know... but a small model could save all the electric energy drain...

[@ExecutiveZombie]

Go outside and use your human brain…. ☀️😂💀

[@velvetjones8634]

I’m all about someone making money but Jesus fucking Christ, this is ridiculous.

[@dscuffman7679]

emotional intelligence and all of those other knock offs ideas are just copes for people who are statistically less intelligent.

[@Zirrad1]

Moderator and panelists all looking for money. Con men each and every one

[@GenericAF123]

Who’s the dude by Emad? He thinks we can’t adjust quick enough? Is there any proof or is he projecting? This shit can’t come quit enough! Typical control freak always trying control things via “legislation”. Im sure if you were to drop a car 2000 years ago they would rather ride a horse? The time of adjustment is when you see another guy chauffeuring your girl around town while you’re still on your horse. 😂. When you get your ass kicked & don’t adjust that’s your problem. The young bearded dude by Emad is projecting fake scenarios.

[@willparks3126]

I stop watching after the 3rd Ad goodbye

[@thechainsawlife3121]

Too many commercials. Stopped watching.

[@Fiqure242]

too may commercials good info.. too bad i have to unsub

[@briandoe5746]

" they can't do art. They can't do actual programming" at that point I close the video and left because obviously you don't have people that truly understand what AI is doing today.... Sorry

[@deeplearningpartnership]

Emad doesn't look so great.

[@AlgoNudger]

Sentient? C'mon. 😂😂😂

[@dertythegrower]

Ukraine sentient drone took out a sentient russian tank. That was last month. The mini Ai tanks lasted one day... all recorded by a 2nd drone in the sky above, plus a spy plane, plus a satellite on a clear sky day...

[@MickeySourwine-ck7fq]

Your podcast is one of the most annoying podcast I've listened to your commercials are ridiculous I don't even want to finish this conversation

[@timemastro1]

This is just hype. There wont be agi. Its all bullshit

[@jackparsons6299]

Bro the f'n adds! Ok we get it, just drop a damn link in the f'n bio