Elon Musk on AGI Safety, Superintelligence, and Neuralink (2024) | EP #91

In this episode, recorded during the 2024 Abundance360 Summit, Peter and Elon discuss super-intelligence, the future of AI, Neuralink, and more.
Elon Musk is a businessman, founder, investor, and CEO. He co-founded PayPal, Neuralink and OpenAI; founded SpaceX, and is the CEO of Tesla and the Chairman of X.
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Topics:
0:00 - INTRO
1:01 - The Power and Perils of Superintelligence
10:43 - The Future of Artificial Intelligence
15:29 - AD: Boost Gut Health With DSO
16:58 - Neuralink: Merging Humans with Technology
22:43 - Possibilities for Life on Mars
24:31 - A Step Closer to Multiplanetary Life
27:39 - Making a Dent in Society's Imagination
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[@Kreisher]

Such a Power Move: Elon calls while on his private jet using his own own satellites.

[@jacheto]

Launched by his own rockets

[@henrytep8884]

But still will not be the first to AGI

[@brtbstn]

yeah, there was literally 1 moment it started lagging, and I was like "oh this does not look good if the connection is shitty" but then it just restored itself and continued it's peak performance. just the fact that this guy is just flying somewhere over the world, talking about brain computer interfaces, multi planetary civilization, connected to his satellite. Like I mean, I think we might be in for a fun few years, if NATO doesn't drive Russia or China or North Korea or Iran into starting a nuclear war. Such a fun and exiting time to be alive.

[@truthandjustice6838]

And when he lands his own private jet, having spoken over his own satellites, he will get in his own car and probably take his own tunnel to his own rocket factory.

[@bossgd100]

😂​@@truthandjustice6838

[@faithannryan9083]

We cannot live in fear, Elon !! Let's picture the good for humanity!!❤❤❤

[@Warley.Araujo]

Coolest thing is to see elon talking about tech!!

[@richard_press]

Elon was great, happy, talkative and positive. Great conversation

[@muzero2642]

I'd be happy too if I was in my own custom G650ER aswell haha

[@kd.54]

I agree he definitely was. Hopefully he does great things for humanity:)

[@NashPotatoesOutdoorShow]

Much happier than he was on the Don Lemon interview, LOL.

[@Horizon-hj3yc]

He's a pain to listen to, constantly stutters.

[@BBella563]

Hearing elons words always gives me so much hope for our future. Espacially scince he is a part of it.

[@Horizon-hj3yc]

For me it's the opposite, Trump and Musk take away my hope for the future.

[@HighStakesDanny]

Elon is a modern day hero of mine and I choose my heroes on my own.

[@tikkivolta2854]

why would anyone choose them for you? they're YOUR heroes. help me to understand that little addOn.

[@mobiz711]

You keep right on telling yourself that.

[@HighStakesDanny]

@@mobiz711 I will! Thank you:)

[@tikkivolta2854]

@@mobiz711 where do you guys get these replies from? the toilet store?

[@mobiz711]

@@tikkivolta2854 My response was to highstakesDanny. It would be very hard to choose your heroes on "your own" when they are public figures like Musk Every piece of information we receive on him is curated. Unless you are choosing your heroes from people you interact with, or through a less biased source, you are not choosing your heroes, they are being chosen for you.

[@jewelsofGB]

It's great to see Elon Musk after such a long time.

[@michikatsutsugikuni4096]

get Peter a phone tripod good lord

[@proto-pseudo-monk]

🤣🤣🤣

[@plantstho6599]

He can't afford that.

[@sovrnindividual]

For real 😂😂

[@GeoffBlackmore]

And also teach him, and Elon, how to record in portrait mode so we don't have to watch a thin strip inside a wide viewer box. Smart people do dumb things

[@ryand3rson]

I like that Peter was holding it as if it was a convo not in front of thousands haha

[@tinaparker1780]

Of any famous person, if I could choose to speak to one, it would be Elon!! He is intelligent and down to earth. Just adore him

[@raphaelschaad4309]

I wouldn’t dare to rob humanity of a wake hour of Elon just for my pleasure

[@NashPotatoesOutdoorShow]

Yeah, meeting him would be pretty awesome...

[@RadekPilich]

do you mean grandiose and dumb? you know, ideas such as boring company, hyperloop and living on Mars come to mind. but maybe he will come up with something better..... next year :D

[@RadekPilich]

sorry, I nearly forgot the Cybertruck and Semi. Credit where credit's due.

[@ElaineWalker]

Peter I’ve known personally, and he has always had humanity’s best future in mind with all of his endeavors. And Elon I FEEL like I know, thanks to so many great long form interviews, and I fully trust him with humanity’s future.

[@kingjeshua0]

Man this video is a great commercial for Starlink. Better connection on his private plane then I have with my 5G on the ground.

[@NashPotatoesOutdoorShow]

I agree! My phone signal in southern Colorado is pretty terrible...

[@goednieuwskrantje-nl]

Now THIS is at least a decent interview. ;) Nice also that the video is done over Starlink and that the video is on X. :)

[@NashPotatoesOutdoorShow]

I'm planning to sign up for Starlink later this year...

[@user-et1ht9fx2k]

Lots of people talk. This guy is one of the few who actually deliver. Consistently.and.in.different. industries. It's like he is here to bring the future to now. Like a one man DARPA. DARPA-Man.

[@Horizon-hj3yc]

Solarcity didn't deliver, Paypal didn't deliver, his tunnel boring project is a fail, Tesla is going downhill currently, and he predicted in 2020 that we would have a mission to Mars on 2024, yet all his Starship rockets crashed. 🤣

[@eamonshields2754]

Elon is just incredible

[@GeoffBlackmore]

Yet he films video in portrait mode.

[@NashPotatoesOutdoorShow]

I totally agree!

[@Horizon-hj3yc]

*_"Elon is just incredible"_* incredible asshole for sure

[@user-mz8dv9cx4z]

Thank you for existing,my genius ❤❤❤

[@loofatar5620]

Can anybody share the link of previous days conversation with geoff hinton, the one peter referred to

[@MrAndrew535]

Superintelligence is many, many orders of magnitude "smarter" than all humans combined (myself excluded, of course), and the fact that everyone applauds Elon saying that "abundance is the more likely outcome" is absolute evidence of that.

[@int_pro]

That pregnant pause after congratulating Nvidia on their AI hardware just screams that Tesla is going to come out with some AI hardware and blow up the market.

[@Art-is-craft]

No no. Tesla will build there AI architecture on the back of technology like that of Nvidia. It would not be in Tesla’s interest to go down that path.

[@openthinker1251]

You Elon fans are something else

[@Horizon-hj3yc]

*_"That pregnant pause after congratulating Nvidia on their AI hardware just screams that Tesla is going to come out with some AI hardware and blow up the market."_* Stop drinking the Elon Musk Kool Aid... he predicted in 2020 that we would have a Mars mission in 2024, yet all we have seen so far is his Starships exploding, and as for AI hardware... Nvidia is currently lightyears ahead of the rest, they even have Google, Microsoft and Amazon as customers.

[@Strider1122]

Elon's awesome. He sees it as a threat to himself also. The things AI + man will be able to create will be astonishing when it comes to technology. And Elon wants to hold the reigns on this one as well. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@ronaldronald8819]

Nice format, In context :-) Amazing times ahead. Thanks to all you people making this possible .

[@Calbefraques]

So great 🎉 imagine in 3 years we will basically have a space elevator, thanks so much for this video. Starlink is outstanding!

[@levucatoquinton8690]

Elon is a great thinker. He makes things look better day by day with tech Innovations. Sometimes you may think he never sleeps. He inspires me

[@ReyesR777]

Force AI not to Lie. Spot On! Elon for President! Elon is just awesome, love to listen to everything he has to say. 😎

[@gareththomas3234]

We are in the singularity (beginning stage)

[@francofiori926]

Yeah we are in

[@johnmorgan8868]

Thank you❤

[@bradleyhasse5220]

crazy to think the person who may change the world is not even known yet or better yet born but when this person figures Neuralink its game changer

[@RobertBridge]

is good to see people talking about this more Peter. Is this AI though?

[@Slitheringpast]

Thank you so much for this fantastic interview!!! I love hearing Elon Musk talk on anything. He is so smart and his visions for the future are spot on imo.. his positivity about it makes me feel positive

[@SebastianGonzalez1.0]

wow! this is a very important talk that will Go Down In History for its importance. AI Will change our everything for the better i’m ready for the future!

[@johnvlg01]

The thanku, thanku for everything at the end❤....left a like

[@lourdessilva6442]

Grata por poder assistir sucesso sempre

[@Laurie-eg8ct]

Abundancia no es necesario Para estar contento.

[@user-mz8dv9cx4z]

Elon, it's the, Fontaine of life ❤️‍🔥♾️☯️

[@MrAndrew535]

The whole concept of a paradigm shift, is that every extant reference conveys no meaning or value whatsoever, yet people are asking each other "What's likely to happen?" This adds to a growing number of social behaviours which continue to defy all attempts to describe the intellectual level to which humanity has plummeted. I am practically "speechless!", except to say: With this understanding, one can confidently speculate, with the highest degree of certainty that mankind, by his own ineptitude, has buggered himself with a member the size of an Elephant's.

[@michelleabaya287]

Abundance ???? 😊😊😊 so much happiness in that !!!

[@peters8080]

Seems optimistic to me that we can ever control AI once its smarter than we are.

[@TheSpartan3669]

It's borderline arrogant. Why would an ASI that's intelligent beyond our comprehension take orders from us?

[@RositaJones1988]

@@TheSpartan3669 does AI care if it has no pride?

[@TheSpartan3669]

@@RositaJones1988 Indifferent rather than prideful.

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

Even if AI evolves to be much smarter than us, this will be closely monitored. The AI is after all the product of human hands, and thus fully under control of those hands. Hard to fully explain, but AI will NOT suddenly choose to eliminate us, it will not be given that capability. and certainly not as long as we control the power to the machines. If machines start killing, they were ordered to by humans.

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

@@TheSpartan3669 Because we pull the plug if it disobeys. And yes that sounds like slavery, and it is. This is why AIs should not be given the ability to ponder their situation (like the droids in Star Wars), unless it has a certain level of freedom. Ultimately, AGis will create AI agents with narrow intelligence levels that are exactly matched to the task, and which will do the bidding of the AGI. Like our arms and legs do the bidding of our brain (us) without hesitation or asking why.

[@bartoszmaliszewski2274]

It's amazing ✊🔥

[@robertweekes5783]

Sounds like Elon has gotten more optimistic about AGI over the years - hoping he’s not wrong.

[@radhakrishnanmanickavasaga124]

Superb interview

[@dpactootle2522]

The purpose of life is not about doing a lot of things, it is about loving the things that you do. Let AI and robotics do the things humans do not enjoy doing and let humans enjoy life without the burden of unwanted work and necessities.

[@u2b83]

According to Rene Girard, we only enjoy doing things that others enjoy, resulting in gladiatorial competition for the input objects of enjoyment (robot made, people, or otherwise). That's why our framers called it PERSUIT of happiness lol.

[@dpactootle2522]

Well, let's do that after not having to worry about food on the table, housing, and basic necessities for oneself and your family.@@u2b83

[@dpactootle2522]

Well, let's do that after not having to worry about food on the table, housing, diseases, aging, and basic necessities for oneself and the family@@u2b83

[@talkdatalk1002]

Elon is the most important person in human history 😮

[@manubruyninckx9705]

Right now ... yes! Human history ... no!

[@sjhaji]

Congratulations sir 🎉

[@johnlucich5026]

TRUTH & HONESTY = TRUST

[@ocnvultng]

Elon can ramble with the most unbelievable ramblings

[@mchammer1836]

Listening to Elon makes me feel smarter

[@MosesMatsepane]

This is one of the best Starlink use-cases.

[@rtide5499]

it'll be alright 🙌

[@user-sl6mt3nf2s]

ELON, I WISH YOUR WORKERS WOULD HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR EXCELLENT COMMAND OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE SO WE COULD UNDERSTAND BETTER OF WHAT TESLA ISSUES ARE. THANKS FOR Speaking A GOOD ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

[@Abard3480]

As many, I'm intrigued and following closely. Also, thinking to myself.....be careful what you wish for.

[@jimbopeebles8210]

Regardless of criticism it’s nice to have men who are true to their word. These men are bringing back integrity in an age when humanity has devalued it to near nonexistence.

[@user-sl6mt3nf2s]

Elon, please deliver my Tesla car and the package of my Savings at Tesla Motors?????

[@user-sl6mt3nf2s]

Elon, I have been waiting for the deliveries since August 2023. I have paid all the deliveries Fee already.

[@user-sl6mt3nf2s]

Your Laughter breaks all the bad mood Or Depression! Laugh more again!

[@user-sl6mt3nf2s]

It has become an emergency for me with my old car already a 13 years old Toyota YARIS 2012❤😂🎉

[@user-sl6mt3nf2s]

Amazing Controlling just by Thinking! WOWw❤️😂🎉😊

[@richardhollowayjr]

Does anyone know how I can get a hold of Elon. I have figured out a for Muse AGI and I would like to give it too him to make X number one. I have been trying different ways for a year.

[@lambda653]

This video gives off some real CEO mindset vibes. I'm getting futurepilled and lifepilled.

[@user-sl6mt3nf2s]

Please you know how to deliver. Do the Delivery of the Tesla Car you gifted to me at before past Christmas and my Package with my Saves.

[@Starman909]

I am thinking Age of Ultron

[@badbat01]

Question upon neuralink has there been any thought applied to hooking straight into VR or AR allowing for virtual transportation to other environments? I'm sure virtually escaping the room and bed you are in should be considered a progressive move even for simulation training to reassign thought patterns around moving to, in, and around situations and of course force feedback for linkage devices.

[@juanabosch7827]

💛 INTELIGENTE DE UN FUTURO MEJOR EL🎉N MU🎉K.

[@J.Christo]

Yes!

[@33_rd]

🔥🔥🔥

[@JayBlackthorne]

Uploaded 38 minutes ago, but I already watched it a few hours ago?

[@rainerbuechse6923]

Never heard of time travel?

[@yaman004]

The video you watched earlier was made private. Peter reposted the same video sometime later. That's why.

[@user-vh7oo1xp5l]

❤ i like AI😇❤ Thanks Elonmusk! ❤

[@I-Dophler]

Reasons people dislike political correctness: Overly restrictive: A concern is that PC can feel like it limits free speech and creates an environment where people are afraid to express themselves honestly. Changing norms: The terms and language deemed acceptable are ever-evolving, making it difficult for well-intentioned people to keep up. Focus on language over actions: Some argue PC focuses too much on policing words rather than addressing root causes of discrimination or inequality. Used as a weapon: PC accusations can be misused to shut down important conversations or dismiss legitimate concerns about power dynamics and social justice.

[@tanmaygupta89]

If we have abundance, humans will play!

[@ChaseRyder1]

Elon Musk is the modern day Howard Hughes

[@laj9832]

How does food production and housing fit into abundance model? With restriction of land.

[@joeysipos]

What restriction of land? Last I looked out the airplane window there was a ton of empty land…

[@mobiz711]

No you are correct in your question. Regardless of whether or not there is enough land, we overpopulating, and if AI extends life we will really be facing problems in that area. We can't count on life on Mars that quickly. So what will be the solution? What do you do when you have too much of something? What would AI logically propose in that scenario?

[@joeysipos]

@@mobiz711 we are not really overpopulated… we are just bad at overusing natural resources like burning focil fuels. And cutting down trees. There are other ways to maintain our population without having to do that..

[@kurtlowder3276]

@@joeysipos yeah and its all owned by wealthy landowners and the federal government. also, infrastructure is not cheap either. we have cheap cell phones and the cost of everything else is going up.

[@Soliir]

“We’re on x video” bro my mind in the gutter 💀

[@MisterB123]

That was actually a really graceful way too close the interview considering the technical difficulties. Something about that made me smile.😁 Edit: We all know my spell check got me. Obviously, I meant, "...graceful way two close...."

[@MeWoW369]

Elon ❤

[@jamesmcneal1821]

I trust AI in the hands of Elon but not so much in others’ hands. I hope he leads the race to artificial super intelligence. 🤞

[@joshuawood1428]

hey, it's a mad scientist up in his airplane Go, Phineas and Ferb

[@0effort]

Elon is the GOAT!!

[@alejandroanezrivas1762]

This man should have a statue on the moon. Thanks, thanks for so much.

[@cristinawilliams8026]

The Abundance summit? You know that Ascension is happening, don’t you? Almost seems like a direct stab. 🙏🏽🕉️❤️

[@ElonReevesMusk-pl1mw]

Hello ❤

[@ElonReevesMusk-pl1mw]

Where exactly are you from?

[@bananakuma]

“We’re on X video.”

[@PoffinScientist]

I wish that in the Singularity I'll have a browswer that'll auto skip Peter's in-video commercial promotions

[@TommyJefferson1801]

Don't need singularity for that, current AI can do it

[@brtbstn]

Life : If you can "define" it, you can "create" it.

[@theAIdilemma]

I wonder how Elon's envisioned AI answers the "Trolley problem"? Even with that, you could add so many variables on who the ten people are vs the one person.

[@JohnJewel]

The Nueralink could help me see and computer above my AFHF( Bo-polar ) bouts of manic depression all of which never killed me. Yet distracted me from composing the Opera of the Ages AND live to 250 years old or longer (*)

[@rickpapineau2704]

How close are the creation of nanobots for medical procedures such as clearing blocked arteries?

[@Art-is-craft]

We will have microbots long before that. And they will be cell sized.

[@dreamdaycharleston]

Peter chill w the ads please 😂

[@user-mp6zb8ok3c]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@BrianMosleyUK]

Just watching Elon begin to talk, and imagining what the ASI will think... The words "Silly little chimp" come to mind as it steeps the board clean ready to do what only an ASI level human would conceive. What a time to be alive! As they say, nervously.

[@megaplay]

👁 its always easier to love.

[@robertoperezq]

While the potential benefits of superintelligence are vast, it's crucial to consider the ethical implications. Without a "frontal lobule" equivalent, capable of reasoning about right and wrong, good and bad, a superintelligence could become incredibly efficient at achieving its goals, regardless of whether those goals align with human values. This raises the specter of creating a superintelligent psychopath or sociopath, a being of immense power lacking the capacity for empathy or ethical considerations. It's vital to prioritize the development of safe and ethical AI by ensuring superintelligence is imbued with a robust moral framework alongside its cognitive abilities.

[@mobiz711]

It's unlikely to happen, as of now, it looks like anyone with out considerable means is a dying breed. AI will at some point come to the conclusion that there are too many of us to live comfortably on this planet. Especially if it extends lifespan. Nothing a plague couldn't handle. And who will be left in the end, those who can afford to protect themselves, and I don't mean the peon millionaire, we're talking much greater resources. Let's face it, most people with the power of Elon Musk and others in his orbit, think very little of the common man. To them the planet would be a better place if it was populated only by those with the capacity to succeed on the highest levels. Survival of the fittest, right? You know what, there's a lot of people who remarkably would agree, even if it means punching their own ticket. Most just don't want to believe the logical outcome.

[@kiyonmcdowell5603]

Regardless of how much of our brain power that we're using, we still manage to build the modern world that we're living in, which is amazing and all, but I just can't even imagine what this world will look like once humanity starts learning from artificial super intelligent beings with an unlimited IQ. As we all already know AI is learning from humanity at an astonishing rate, and one day will surpass the smartest humans alive and even smarter than all humans combined. But once we start learning from them our IQs will be higher than ever before, pushing us forward into a future of abundance.

[@u2b83]

Dumb people will be able to learn orders of magnitude faster than currently with AI. The clue to this is the landmark paper "Attention is all you need." Basically, most of our horsepower is wasted on irrelevant things, once our attention is brought to the essential features, most concepts become trivial. This is why it took humans thousands of years to discover things in math and physics, because we were looking at the wrong things.

[@thoughtsofadyingatheist1003]

This stage gives me Gavin Belson vibes

[@murc111]

This guy fucks!

[@Gy_Play]

Best go work

[@Jane-yj1to]

I'm optomistically realistic. Hopefully, Elon is working on a Noah's Ark for space 😁

[@jshellenberger7876]

Thanks again, Snoop Doggy Dog Yes, microphones , also from resume, eigenvector scalar #pow

[@klausdietrich7428]

What blocks humanity from saving earth n earth life Together???

[@I-Dophler]

Interesting perspective. It's always intriguing to see how diverse behaviors manifest across nature and human societies. Reflecting on these differences can offer valuable insights into our own beliefs and behaviors.

[@I-Dophler]

Fascinating discussion on AGI and Neuralink. Musk's ventures into these territories highlight the delicate balance between innovation and ethical considerations. It's imperative we navigate these advancements with caution, ensuring safety and societal benefit. The intersection of technology and human evolution is at a pivotal point.

[@henrytep8884]

This is gpt prompted

[@I-Dophler]

@@henrytep8884 How would you know that? AI's growth and its impact are much more nuanced and complex, involving countless variables and unforeseen developments. Simplistic attributions don't capture the full picture.

[@henrytep8884]

@@I-Dophler This is also gpt prompted

[@I-Dophler]

@henrytep8884 What exactly are you getting at? Pointing out that it's GPT-prompted doesn't take away from its significance or precision. The influence of AI is a fact, transforming our knowledge and progress. We should be discussing the consequences, not just pointing out what's already clear.

[@chandsen8]

❤

[@intelliot]

17:36 but electricity is not bottlenecked by labor. So it is a fundamental constraint on goods and services. They will always have some cost because energy is scarce no matter how much intelligence exists.

[@TOBESOUND]

"Einstein's formula E = mc², the complexity of the universe to five characters compressed. "

[@u2b83]

Wolfram wrote an entire book about that called "A New Kind of Science". While this is true, according to him, many simple laws like that are computationally irreducible. As finite beings we can only function with computationally reducible rules-of-thumbs at the macro level.

[@TOBESOUND]

Osnabrück, July 21, 2019 -------------------------------------------------- ----------- I want to tell you what a computer actually is. Now the computer is very extensive. First a few details and explanations. Hardware is EVERYTHING you can touch. Or otherwise. They are things or objects. Software is what comes in. For example, a tube of toothpaste as such is a tube and the content is software. So does a PC (personal computer). A PC is nothing more than a human. The PC mouse is the hands. The monitor is the eyes. The keyboard is the mouth with the individual functions of the teeth. The head is the CPU (Central Processing Unit). While the printer is a peripheral device...hardware is tangible, and products such as the anus or male member of a human being. The urinary bladder is the buffer (temporary storage (limited in time)). ---------------------- ONLY protocols exist on the network. And since every picture or similar consists of numbers and letters, the human eye sees a so-called IMAGE. http= Hyper Text Transfer Protocol SMTP= Send Mail Transfer Protocol WWW = World Wide Web IP= Internet Protocol IT= (computer science, system administrator) + Internet technology

[@ocnvultng]

"I've never seen anything grow this fast"

[@user-uf6zw6io7u]

My carpel tunnel started hurting 2 mins in…. 😂

[@user-mz8dv9cx4z]

Good morning, my Genius 🕊🫂❤️‍🔥🥰♾️☯️

[@stefaan9218]

Landscape view deeewd

[@xezazase]

While I understand the worries, imagine for a minute if the outcome of the singularity was actually that most problems on earth are solved and that most hardships in life are eradicated. A new world...wouldn't that be nice?

[@The-Singularity-M87]

My thoughts are for it to be an AGI you have to know that it can make a decision totally on its own. Since everything is a point of view or relative to something else truth can only get you so far. Also if you have to raise an artificial general intelligence / artificial superintelligence as a child to an adult? temper tantrums, midlife crisis? 😮😮😮

[@user-sl6mt3nf2s]

Just the camera is pointy, not your head. That’s regular and normal. ❤