Watch a Tesla Run A Red Light on FSD Beta!

[@mikekleiner3741]

Thanks for your effort in testing this "Full" self-driving boondoggle.

[@AIAddict]

No problem!

[@MrGiggity890]

It’s a beta software for a reason.

[@mikekleiner3741]

@@MrGiggity890Someone has gotten their Neuralink implant. Glad to hear it works as Elon intended.

[@paulmeynell8866]

It’s not V12

[@MrGiggity890]

@@paulmeynell8866 and then these dweebs want to pretend like Tesla says it’s already fully autonomous which they’ve never said. Tesla makes it quite clear that it still requires constant supervision.

[@importon]

Yep. I have similar things happen to me often. youtube needs more critical videos like this in the sea of FSD fanboys and shills trying to get the stock price to go up. I want FSD to be great, but it won't unless more attention gets put on stuff like this.

[@AIAddict]

Well said!

[@Project2457official]

@@AIAddictagreed. Thank you for making these videos. As a motorist in Florida and often a vulnerable road user I am very worried and cautious of Tesla’s. Last time I was driving on a central arterial road in the middle of a busy city a Tesla kept trying to merge with a left turn lane that didnt exist. It kept getting over to the left and scraping the bushes and plants in the median while hugging the left side of the lane with a left indicator light on. This is dangerous and for Tesla to be training their autopilot on public utilities such as roadways they need to pay or take any sort of accountability for who or what they are putting at fatal risk.

[@michaelimbesi2314]

@@Project2457officialStuff like this is part of why I got rid of my car and started taking the Metro to work

[@Project2457official]

@@michaelimbesi2314 I wish I could do that but South Florida has dogshit transit. I wish it got better and I am working with groups to better it.

[@mrwjs]

For all those looking to blame something besides the tech, you're missing the point. This tech is touted as being safer than a human, yet it fails repeatedly even after being reported for years. And you can say the driver is supposed to be in control all the time, but people don't behave that that way. We get complacent. Even professionals make mistakes, yet this tech is offered to the masses, the people that will easily get distracted and abuse it. And while he was in control and had to intervene, is that the experience we want from this tech? Even if you're a proponent for this tech, would your passengers feel safe after an experience like this? The tech is not ready. The infrastructure is not ready. Drivers, in general, are not ready to beta test for Tesla. This tech is just a means to sell an over-priced car that lacks the quality and materials in the price range it is offered.

[@johnm9263]

the point is that theres people who say that they would have made the same mistake if they came across this without any prior knowledge thats not "missing the point" bad design is still bad design, imagine you put a concrete block in the water and expect it to float, how do you get it to float? well, if you were smart, you would say that its impossible to get the block itself to float on its own, which would be the tesla, and the water, the intersection, and the help, the lights and markings literally the entire point is that the intersection is just badly designed in a way that FSD CANNOT be worked around the intersection acts like on/off ramps, but with a stupid light instead of overpassing road or an actual intersection

[@Lessevie]

@@johnm9263 but if FSD cannot work around this- its not safe. Yes some people would miss it first time, but most people would get it after learning it for over A YEAR

[@donwald3436]

Thumbs up for kitty!

[@AIAddict]

His name is Charlie!!

[@skywave12]

At rural 4 way stop intersections most of the time mine wants to go through them. These roads travel at 55 + mph. Does it in total daylight. Keeps you on your toes. Tesla knows this. Keep up the good work.

[@stusue9733]

I can't help but think along side "Ludicrous Mode" there should be "Suicide Mode"

[@splaw120]

Road guy rob sent me here 🙂

[@MaineEDM]

FSD failed, but whoever designed the horrendous light setup for that intersection also failed. Aren't there state or fed traffic light standards that are supposed to be followed?

[@emdxemdx]

Where I live, in such a case, precautions are taken so you can only see YOUR lights, such as sheet metal caches or narrow beam lenses. Also here, such intersections are redone so roads meet at right(ish) angles. But we are also the most taxed jurisdition in North America, so...

[@Xanthopteryx]

The entire road/traffic design in USA is faulty so i am not surprised.

[@nordic5490]

I agree, with you, FSD does not always work in the real world.

[@joecardenas7015]

Nice video, nicer crocs.

[@JQXtK]

I think the road structure might be too complex for the car to process. I can see that it detected the green light for the other lane first, and that is visually very close to the correct red light, and it assume it's the green light for its own lane so it just proceed with it. But then it detected the correct red light and stop in the middle of the road, and the red light is flashing in and out on the screen.

[@legojayman]

A self-driving car that is driving the public right of way should be smart enough to safely utilize any intersection that humans are capable of. Anything less is irresponsible to have in use by the general public.

[@jsalsman]

How about in daytime? Is the display placing the red light on the far side of the merging roads? If so, that seems like a pretty profound failure of stereo depth assessment.

[@AIAddict]

Same results during the day time. We chose to run at nighttime to reduce risk of injury to bystanders

[@Nabeelco]

It may seem counter-intuitive, but these systems tend to work better at night, because there is more contrast between the background and the lines on the road, signs, and signal lights, making it easier for the model to see. So if it doesn't work at night, there is NO WAY it'll work during the day.

[@IndyAvocadoKid]

@@Nabeelcofwiw, my Hyundai lane following driver assist works WAY better at night because lane markings show up bright white in headlights at night 🤔😏😂

[@Xanthopteryx]

Everything is "profound" with Tesla/Elon....

[@kdub1666]

I fear it'll take a high publicity death before TSLA is ever called out. It's just a matter of time.

[@DigitalDissident]

Interesting videos as always, thanks.

[@AIAddict]

Glad you like them! Thanks!

[@dada373678229]

Very great video, thank you!

[@shraka]

I used to think self driving has potential, now I hate it. It's just a distraction from building cities and transit properly. It doesn't address most of the problems with cars as the primary means of transit, and both directly and indirectly makes a few of them worse.

[@robertwestrom6878]

Good work

[@AIAddict]

Thank you so much 😀

[@MrJamiez]

Can you sue Tesla for that red light issue? I know it's in beta, but it's putting your lives at risk.

[@AIAddict]

I could possibly arbitrate Tesla but don’t think I can sue them?

[@Francois_Dupont]

why dont they even send a patch for that particular intersection in the mean time? they arent even trying to cover their asses. this is criminal negligence. the guy is making multiple complaint about this and they do nothing?!

[@ShaneBro]

1:33 - might want to put the beer cans away guys. Geez.

[@brunowskijr]

Came because of road guy Rob.

[@addezai]

Experienced similar issue on a straight road with light transitioning from orange to red and Tesla Y jumps the red light 3 seconds after turning light turned full red. I have no Dashcam footage as footage is removed automatically

[@AmishFan]

Cooks Corner. Addicts Light.

[@PtrkHrnk]

Nice cat! 🐈

[@AIAddict]

Thank you! 😊

[@nonesounique]

At that specific junction (Quito/Hwy 9), in the day time there is absolutely no problem (model X, 11.4.4). The placement of the those lights at the intersection is somewhat skewed and that might be what confused FSD. I will try that at night in the next couple of days.

[@ChristianLaurinE]

And that is a problem for the intersection how?

[@emdxemdx]

Where I live, in such a case, precautions are taken so you can only see YOUR lights, such as sheet metal caches or narrow beam lenses. Also here, such intersections are redone so roads meet at right(ish) angles.

[@jimelgarcia6760]

15,000 later and what do you get ...running red lights fix it tesla and lower the price of fsd its to much money spent on a feature just to run red lights and even if it didn't run the light 15,000 on top of the money spent for the car is crazy especially when fsd is not ready yet i believe one day it will in 10 years my opinion but right now no and it's not worth 15,000 fsd should just be strictly subscription model for $50 bucks per month then when its ready I mean fully ready and works 99.5 percent of the time under very weather conditions out there then 15,000 is more then justified fix it tesla.

[@Jet-Pack]

Very interesting, can you please repeat this test with 12.3 or higher?

[@AIAddict]

Sure I’d be happy to, might take a bit of time though

[@DigitalDissident]

I looove my manual E82 N55 135i six cylinder, turbo, 280kmh waaaa

[@AIAddict]

I had an N54 135i twin turbo before the Tesla! :)

[@ryanjhamm]

"FSD doing essentially the most dangerous thing that it can in any given situation." Ummm or doing the same thing, albeit wrong, in one specific scenario that is probably a little more challenging to navigate. That said, no, it's not ready for widespread public release.

[@sanisidrocr]

I see 3 different red lights in that intersection. On the left , center and right on a perfectly clear night . How could anyone miss this ? humans can see the green lights are pointed the other way but tesla can't. At minimum it should assume there are both red and green lights if it cannot see the angles as good as a human and decide not to drive through the red light and have the passenger take over or stop but it makes the dangerous choice.

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

Problem is there's just as many "specific situations" when driving a car than predictable ones.

[@rickybrown5817]

What year your Tesla

[@AIAddict]

2021 Model 3 Long Range

[@rickybrown5817]

@@AIAddict need fixing self driving

[@rickybrown5817]

@@AIAddict how fix it self driving

[@W4rH4wkXX]

great job 💪... paging Elon .... train that AI better!🤣

[@paulmeynell8866]

They are it’s called V12

[@MrGiggity890]

@@paulmeynell8866 Tesla haters really are some of the dumbest folks

[@IndyAvocadoKid]

@@paulmeynell8866meh, v12 will probably still be buggy but my Nostradamus like ability to predict the future says v98 will be absolutely flawless😂jk

[@BigBrotherHal2001]

Exceptionally dangerous. Why didn’t you brake and intervene?

[@sjwright2]

He wants the KZbin money

[@cantdriveslo]

You don't feel safe that the self driving feature doesn't stop at a red light, but you must find it safe for you to run a stop sign (4:43). Go figure

[@lightdark00]

Tesla is trying to abort you 🤷‍♂️

[@AIAddict]

👀

[@BigBrotherHal2001]

The green light for cross traffic should not be visible to you as you approach the intersection. You broke the law twice by running the red light. Super dangerous. Do not do that again. Follow the traffic law and the rules of the road. The white line defining the intersection also appears faded. Local municipality could be at fault for not maintaining proper signage and lane line painting.

[@archangel0041]

Everyone clap for this genius who says that running reds is bad. No shit, that's literally what the video is for.

[@mrwjs]

I think you're missing the point of the video. "Do not" be such an old curmudgeon.

[@Shiznit304]

That intersection would confuse normal drivers too. I saw green lights and red lights. The city should fix the traffic lights to not show the highway’s green lights when you’re approaching the intersection

[@AIAddict]

In my 27 years of living on this road I’ve never seen an accident or a human incident of someone running the red light. It used to be a stop sign when I was a child, now it’s a red light. I agree it’s different but you’ll find thousands of “different” intersections around the world that FSD may encounter similar to this one. They will need to fix this before going wide release.

[@tp_123]

Yea California is full of confusing driving situations. I wonder if they will eventually have to lockdown robotaxi per city and have some low fidelity maps to help the system out with the edge cases. Will be interesting to see what the approach is.

[@stusue9733]

WOW, So its the intersection's fault? Perhaps the default should be "STOP"? I don't recall the name being FSDoatiaf(full self drive once all the intersections are fixed)

[@sanisidrocr]

slightly more confusing but humans can see the different angles. Why wouldn't the FSD at least count 3 green lights and 3 red lights (red is more visible than green here) and at least stop or allow the driver to take over instead of having the dumb confidence of running a red?

[@echopapacharlie]

It's a more confusing intersection than many others. But a human driver, unless impaired, will perceive he's approaching an intersection with a highway and will accordingly act with due caution. He will slow down when he perceives confusion, to a complete stop if necessary, and to proceed only after he makes out the situation. The FSD does not seem to have a "cautious mode."

[@DanFrederiksen]

Try doing the tests with less malice like feign outrage when you know it does it consistently and you intentionally seek it out. I've seen similar in similar shallow angle layouts from other testers. The logic isn't yet airtight. I assume it doesn't do it in daylight since you only show nighttime?

[@johnm9263]

A red light on your LEFT means its not for you That's not an FSD problem, that's a design flaw with the intersection I personally (had i not been warned beforehand) would have done the same thing and stopped in the intersection, even if i would be a bit confused Its likely a police trap to generate revenue, hospital bills, or funeral profits

[@sanisidrocr]

Its like we watched 2 different videos. I can see 3 red lights in the intersection , on the left , center , and right . How could you or telsa miss this?

[@AIAddict]

In my 27 years living on this road, I’ve never seen a human run it either

[@johnm9263]

@@AIAddict if you are familiar with the area, you wont run it, but if you aren't, and its night, yes, you will Dont play dumb here, you know you would

[@johnm9263]

@@sanisidrocr the lights are on the left, but further ahead, and its night, the markings aren't as clear as you would think

[@sanisidrocr]

@@johnm9263 The most generous case you could argue is the AI is confused because it sees 3 red lights and 3 green lights at a slightly different angle . Humans can tell the difference due to the angle of green lights and the context of being a traffic onramp but tesla "AI" can't here . So why doesn't it just stop or give control to the driver instead of ignore the 3 red lights that are more visible than the green lights pointed at the other road? Also why is Tesla not learning when they are repeatedly being told by their drivers this intersection isn't working right ?

[@paulmeynell8866]

So this is a pointless video on a bug that has not been fixed yet. Get inline with everyone else that has a pet bug. Better still wait for V12 which should eliminate all the bugs.

[@coherentpanda7115]

A bug that could easily have multiple fatalities. It's as critical of a bug as it gets ,and it has been reported for a long time.

[@sjwright2]

@@coherentpanda7115 FSD Beta is being used for over 1 million miles of driving per day. The number of fatalities associated with FSD Beta is zero. That's far less than the average for human drivers. If there was an actual safety problem with the beta being in customer hands, surely we'd already know about it.

[@nordic5490]

I agree, with you, FSD does not always work in the real world.

[@paulmeynell8866]

@@nordic5490 my comment was V12 is completely different so can not be compared to v11

[@billjohnson3022]

"Watch a Tesla Run A Red Light on FSD Beta!" No it didn't. The human behind the wheel ran the red light. He is supposed to be in control and if he let this happen, it is all on him. FSD is Beta for a reason.

[@IndyAvocadoKid]

But yet we have sleeping Tesla driver videos that aren’t using any other type car brand, even cars that have level 2 driving assist 😂jk

[@billjohnson3022]

Oh yeah, I can even have a car drive down a hill with nobody in it but it still wouldn't be the car's fault would it? It would be the numbskull idjets that abuse the system. It isn't driverless ...YET!@@IndyAvocadoKid

[@sjwright2]

Precisely this. Tesla have never claimed that the system is ready to be used without supervision. If a police officer witnessed this dangerous driving, they're not going to care whether the driver had turned on some very elaborate cruise control system. The only person at fault is the licensed driver.

[@nordic5490]

I agree, with you, FSD does not always work in the real world.

[@billjohnson3022]

In the "real world" FSD is in Beta mode, it is still learning and therefore won''t always work of course. Humans don't either, hence 40,000+ deaths caused by human drivers in the US annually. FSD is working to improve our odds on the roads...in the real world!@@nordic5490