Aikido: Tenchi-nage by Empty Mind Films

[@andreykinakh5561]

Приятно смотреть как работает Мастер!

[@philippeloembe7574]

wonderful

[@JCBPARISPARIS]

Thanks for explanation

[@dolape7002]

great

[@ninjamaster7724]

People would not react that way.Neither would someone grab someone elses wrists in a fight,nor would they stand still and continue to hold on why someone is trying to throw them.

[@Kalumbatsch]

It's an exercise, a kata, a way of training. Boxing is very effective, but you don't expect some half-naked guy to attack you with ridiculous looking balloon gloves in the street, do you?

[@CindyLooWhovian]

Part of the way the uke (the person being attacked) reacts is a trained way to follow the attack and stay connected so that 1)the nage (the person doing the attack) and 2) so that they don't get injured. Ukemi is just as important as learning the actual techniques because it teaches you how to be attacked and avoid injuries (as well as how the techniques feel from the uke side). As you train, you'll learn how to react to your uke's movement and adjust accordingly - this includes when an opponent is resisting the techniques (in many cases, as I understand it, you just abbreviate the technique, even if it means making it more abrupt and less gentle)

[@ninjamaster7724]

@@CindyLooWhovian so basically a long winded way of saying Aikido's bullshit?

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

I don't like the way in which the Uke overacts over every move the instructor does...

[@josephmalone253]

It is not my preference for doing tenchin nage. It feels too stiff.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@josephmalone253 do you mean that you do not like the technique?

[@josephmalone253]

@@jestfullgremblim8002 They way they enter and throw has a different mindset. I do not like trying to force uke down this way. It feels stiff and robotic. I have been shown this and other versions. I would consider this a "hard version". It feels "external". I understand the movements but not the reasons for the strategy. I dislike moving offline the way they do. In short it has a very rigid "formal" feel. It feels like bootcamp. "Sir yes sir" approach. It lacks nuance and for me is not the way I would do it. I am sure they have their reasons but it feels slow and under tension. To be blunt it feels like to men with rifles in trench warfare locking rifles and using the rifle to push the other man down. This is a war application and is "stiff". It has good points about it like the use of stiff wrists. This man's wrists are stiff and firm. They are amazing. I cannot explain the details as it is a secret but he has let's say a good (I don't know the word) extension of ki. Tenchinage as I do just deals with any type of engagement or wrestler tie up. A man runs towards you, say in randori and you push one arm down and the other up. You enter differently, you pivot to ura or advance forward to omote. It has a softer feel. This move is seen in karate throws. It is quicker and more light on the feet. It is based off sticky hands and easier to do. When fighting multiple opponents you have to quickly move from one to the next dispatching them as efficiently as possible. When this application does is slower, harder to perform, and maybe stronger but marginally. It uses much effort for little payoff. It seems based for a 1 on 1 fight to the death with a soldier. I prefer speed for defense against multiple attackers in a civilian self defense scenario not a 1 on 1 kill the man with my bayonet after the throw. It is less helpful to me in my personal practice as I actually need to defend myself in civilian scenes. In its defense it preserves culture so that they retain their historical and national identity. This speaks to them culturally so of course they are not going to abandon what is "trending or popular" for a momentary fad. The throw is too slow for me to use against multiple attackers and seems more of an exercise to strengthen the body and be a "hard man" for use with a specific weapon rather than the style I use, Aikikai, that actually deals with unarmed combat save for use of knife play.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@josephmalone253 that's very true! Forcing people in that way goes the opposite way if what Aikido is supposed to be.

[@josephmalone253]

@@jestfullgremblim8002 It is supposed to be like iriminage. Technically you are not forcing him you are moving from the center while stepping forward. As he is free to let go of your hands at anytime but refuses or just doesn't under stand he is actually throwing himself through his own resistance. This may or may not be semantics. There is nothing wrong with the move but in general these are hard for me to do as shown as I was taught different. Yoshinkan is rarely taught outside Japan. Aikikai is the prevalent style in the western world. Aikikai allows for customization of techniques more. This means you can blend native arts like defenses to punches and so on. This fits the American aesthetic better and makes it easier to use for attacks more common in North America. I would imagine Yoshinkan is optimized for Asian attacks. Yoshinkan is very strict on how waza should be performed. They have no variations. This ensures quality. Like I said these are hard for me so I use easier versions that resemble other styles of jujutsu. If I needed to practice a specific variation for a common attack that I will likely deal with they will scold me "That is wrong, do it this way". They are fiercely loyal to preserving Gozo Shioda's methods. He was military and had rough life. I do not question his decisions. If he did something it was not for superfluous reasons. He probably used his art in real combat or dealing with street violence. He isn't a mcdojo. Other aikikai styles have a bad reputation for being naive about street violence leading to claims it isn't even a martial art at all. Yoshinkan and aikijujutsu avoid these allegations by maintaining what I call "hardline politics". If Yoshinkan makes a person better so be it. I do not style shame other arts as I am not an expert in them to discern all the hidden intricacies they hide from viewing public.