AimPoint vs Plumb Bob which is Better for Putting?

Should you use AimPoint or the Plumb Bob Method for Putting?
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[@mister.wizard]

Great topic Matt! A couple of things regarding AimPoint as I took an AimPoint class here in South Florida. My instructor had me do things even differently than what you will typically see. To make judging the slope easier he had us visually look at the slope to determine right to left or left to right. Then he had us always stand with our heels on the down direction in the line of the putt where the biggest break is to figure the degree of slope. That way you get the “feel” faster on different degree slopes and you can more easily remember what a 1 degree, 2 degree, 3 degree slope feels like. Then you have to stand over your ball (not way back like you were). He then had us using our fingers held toward us instead of the way you traditionally see AimPoint done, of your fingers away from you (come here vs. stay away). You outstretch your arm in towards you (very close with bent elbow) if the greens are fast (so your fingers appear bigger) or more away from you if the greens are slower (fingers appear smaller). I use AimPoint quite a bit (as the more you use it, the better you get the feel of it). Then of course is you have execute to putt at your target and you must putt the correct distance. He said to always try to putt to get just past the hole or you won’t have a chance to get it in the hole. Another thing is if you feel that the slope might be 1 and a half degrees, then simply cross one finger partially over the other (pointer and middle finger) to give you the AimPoint off of the (as always) the flagstick. Works for me! In addition you should practice how far you need to take the club back to make a 5 ft., 10 ft., 15 ft. putt so you know to learn to hit those distances regularly. Could be a could subject for you to cover on one of your upcoming great videos!

[@barwick11]

Agreed on the distance standing back. You've got to be standing with toes next to the ball with aimpoint. Otherwise it's going to be way off.

[@andresb31406]

What does “had us always stand with our heels on the down direction in the line of the putt” mean? Can you describe this in a different way or more in depth please thank you

[@mister.wizard]

For example, if you see the green is slopping right to left (where the right side is higher), then he would have us stand on the line of the putt facing right, so that our heels would be in the down position. That way you could feel the amount of pressure of the slope on your heels to do your measure of slope (1 or 2 or 3). I hope that explains it better for you.

[@andresb31406]

@@mister.wizard thank you

[@mister.wizard]

You're welcome

[@FatihPekbas]

You are supposed to stay right over the ball when aimpointing. No wonder you saw more break than there was for 10 feet.

[@bdorrance1]

Agree!

[@josephscripture8893]

I was about to say that

[@J2K2A]

Facts.

[@brumfiba]

My biggest question regarding aimpoint is how the distance of the putt affects the size of ones fingers relative to the hole. For example, 2 fingers on a 10 footer and 2 fingers on a 40 footer are going to be drastically different given how far you are from the hole.

[@weldo1948]

The two fingers does affect the amount of the read from different lengths of putts. At the same cross slope the putt will break more on the 40’ putt than the 10’ putt. The angle of the read remains the same but the farther the putt the distance above the hole increases.

[@iowabowtech1]

I've tried both and settled on plumb bob. You definitely need to "calibrate" your putter to determine which angle you should be pointing the putter face in order for that specific putter to be hanging truly plumb. Once found, I place a small yellow paint marker dot on the shaft so it's repeatable every time. There's other videos on how to get this all sorted. I would not use this method unless you take the time to do that.

[@juanhunglow2220]

Agreed

[@sepetisionelatu5539]

I think it all depends on the speed at which the ball is being struck. Ben Crenshaw, l love his putting style, etc and so as Jack, Arnold, and Tiger BUT Ben is more of a sweeping taking all the slope kind of putt but the other 3 l think they are more on the attack jamb it in kind of putt lol. l think the majority of putts l confused myself by doing too much rather than just putting according to what my eyes see and the correct speed. Plumb bob is what l prefer.

[@PilatesGuy1]

👍👍⛳⛳Great subject. Thanks. I practice and use both methods. Learned Aim Point about 2 years ago. Overall, I usually have better results with Aim Point - often amazing results. I find ways so neither method slows us up. I detest slow golf. I used mainly Aim Point yesterday morning at wonderful Columbia GC in Minneapolis - we played 9 holes in 1' 20". Less putts takes less time. Plumb bobbing your 3rd putt doesn't help pace of play.

[@Athon08]

I think they also use the Stimp speed to vary how far their arm is stretched out as well. That can put your aim point degree off as well

[@DanL50]

When picking your starting line for the putt, the AimPoint method calls for you to stand over the ball when holding up your fingers. However, you appeared to stand 6’-10’ behind the ball, which will over-read the break, since the farther back you stand, the more break your fingers will indicate. The correct method is to stand over the ball.

[@benhikingoutdoors1632]

I noticed that too. He wasn't even doing it correctly 😂😂

[@OliverSallander]

actually depends, if you are playing on a higher stimp you need to stand a little behind the ball to compensate.

[@DanL50]

AimPoint says you adjust the bend in your elbow for faster greens … and still stand over the ball. The method does require calibration for “today’s” green speed.

[@benhikingoutdoors1632]

@@OliverSallander I dont think standing 8'-10' behind the ball in the video is correct. Ive always understood you stand over the ball.

[@OliverSallander]

@@benhikingoutdoors1632 yeah thats way to far behind the ball.

[@randyodden5730]

Aimpoint took their approach from H. A. Templeton's book "Vector Putting", published in 1984. I am paraphrasing, but basically he says that for an average speed and average sloping green of 2%, at 90 degrees to the fall line, putts will break 2" per pace. He published charts for various speed greens and slopes, you can probably find them online. For amateurs, this is as accurate as you need to be. Anything over 10', odds are you're not going to make the putt anyway. You just want to give it a reasonable chance to fall in.

[@benhikingoutdoors1632]

Your standing way to far behind the ball for Aimpoint. I dont think you know how to do it correctly 😂😂

[@lc-ii9ii]

Yeah this was really annoying me. It's literally the reason he was starting the ball too far away from the hole.

[@theliftexpert]

Aimpoint is deadly accurate ❤ This is a 1 degree putt , you need to put your hand over the ball and use one finger for an accurate aimpoint read . Just saying that this video needs to be redone with a proper aimpoint method.

[@edmunddavis5669]

Both are a rough guide in trying to determine your start line...w PlumBob: must determine how the putter hangs (must find vertical plane), w left to right break downhill will break more (.5 times more for instance) vs an uphill putt (which will break less), plus you will have to add additional break on faster greens vs slower greens (green speed of an #8 is allot slower than a #12). For instance: 10 ft putt, left to right downhill, the shaft is about 1 cup outside the hole; your aim is now 1 1/2 times the original plumbob...so its actually 1 and 1/2 cup outside the hole to account for the slope and faster green going downhill. On an uphill putt, the plumbob shows right edge, but because its uphill the actual start line maybe inside the cup (between the flagpole and the edge). So there are variables: how grainy the greens are, the slope, speed, uphill/downhill/side hill, whether the ball will die into the hole or its rammed into the hole (pace).

[@markwertschnig8766]

Plumb bob for me. It has really helped. Tells me with slope where to hit. I then use my putter to make a straight line to that spot and pick a spot about 6-12 inches past my ball to aim.

[@Planeiron]

do you leave putts short if so pick a spot beside the hole, it worked better for me than right in front of the ball I had a issue of leaving putts 2ft short...but everybody is diff hope your playing well and having fun

[@danpotts5083]

You really should remove this video since you are demonstrating the Aimpoint method incorrectly. You are standing way too far behind your ball, your feet are too far apart when feeling the slope, and there are other nuisances you aren’t demonstrating (double breaks and finger thickness are covered in the Aimpoint training). Ultimately, you are hurting the business of the fellow who developed and sells Aimpoint training. Lastly, it now makes me doubt the other instruction you provide.

[@ricblic901]

When I putt I use the aim point method to see how the green breaks and where that break is. I look at the grass until I see a line. I need to use pace to get the ball to the break the green will do the rest. Always putt the shortest distance and that's to the break.

[@Tognar]

Love ya man, but you’re butchering aim point technique.

[@visarma9673]

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[@kmsnow6292]

I see Adam Scott do this a lot during the round and I had no idea. Now I know. Thanks.

[@micahrobles5210]

I was taught to discover the plumb line of your putter by balancing your putter across your finger, and then mark (or take note of) the 12 o-clock position of the shaft. You would then pinch the putter shaft at the 12 and 6 o-clock positions, having either the 12 or 6 facing down the target line. I was also taught to eyeball the center of the shaft over the ball inline with the hole and the pick your aim point wherever the center of the shaft (or grip) landed. I only recently began using this technique again (not sure why I stopped) and it's pretty good. It at least gives me confidence on break so that I can focus on pace. On a side note: Recently while practice putting I took a phone call, and while on the phone I tooled around the practice green one-handed. WTF! I was draining one putt after another and getting inches from the hole on 30' putts. After the call, I continued to putt one handed and OMG, the results were insane. In fact, I got better results if I just walked up and struck the ball vs taking time to align the face. Even the pace was instinctual, almost as if all the calculations for face angle, clubhead speed, and center of the club were instantly updating the closer the club got to the ball. It seems our reptilian brains are better than any of these time demanding techniques. I'll be honest though, I'm too chicken sh... to do it on the course... For now. Great Video BTW!

[@Yair.M.N]

I'm sorry but this is not correct. For Aimpoint system you have to stand right OVER the ball, not 10 feet behind, that's why it gives you too much break. And for Plumb technique you have to hold the putter with the OPPOSITE hand to your dominant eye.

[@dzaino1986]

Matt, I believe the system also has a factor built in for speed of the greens by moving your fingers closer or further away from your eyes. This would affectively change your break point by your field of view. I'll stick with laying on the ground and checking every blade of grass for the grain. Much faster :)

[@Gigity1107]

I have the same issue with aimpoint. I just don't feel the break in my feet. Even had a putting lesson with the local pro and he was telling me he could feel 2° etc, me nothing. Another method he suggested though was to stand alongside the line, facing it. So you're effectivley standing facking the line. So you can feel the slope from your toes to heels. I found this slightly better, but still not as good as the plumbob for me.

[@76MUTiger]

You train your feet to feel and calibrate that break through practice. I bought a level measured in percent of slope (the correct measure). You put it down, guess the break you feel, and look at the digital number. You do this over and over. You do it regularly to check your calibration (say, once a month). Easy peesey.

[@FJA4709]

I like the plumb bob method the best. Great video!

[@danpotts5083]

And the most recent Golf Digest has an article by an expert putting instructor talking about why plumb-bobbing isn’t very useful.

[@Mike-wv2pn]

I am a visually impaired golfer so I rely on my feet and my coach to help with the read of the green. But it really works have dropped in some long putts with the read I do.

[@darthbennett2708]

Holding the putter plumb is the most important aspect of plumb bob reading. Balance your putter on the index finger (Typically 3 to 4 inches up the shaft from the head of your putter) note how far the toe hangs below the heel, then hold it with the toe that much to the right for a right hand putter.

[@kellyharbour7140]

I just learned plumb Bob this week. It helped a lot. I’m not smart enough for aimpoint.

[@haroldbutterfield5677]

Matt, love the content!! Can you explain why we hold the putter in the hand that the green slopes to? In this case, your right hand and you closed your right eye.

[@Revellien]

I use Plumb Bob to show me which way that the break is moving as sometimes it’s difficult to see the break but surely it is imperative to calibrate the putter for Plumb Bobbing to find where its true vertical hang is? Given that most green slopes are 1% or less (ie the subtle ones) then the ball will move 2-4” per foot of putt - speed of green + speed of putt dependant. So work out the direction of break, look at length of putt and multiply by 2!! So a 10’ foot putt (for most amateurs surely a high 10’ conversion rate is nirvana) on a slope will usually require 20” of aim outside the hole. If it’s more than 1% the slope is really obvious & not subtle requiring a greater distance of offset aim. When i first started using this method I could not believe how far outside the hole I was aiming on a 1% estimation and but the results were amazing. This also means that for a massively high % of putts from 18” and inside, there is no need to start the ball off on a line outside the hole.

[@justmythought1586]

I knocked off an average of 3 putts a around by following a Rory McILroy tip. Stand between the ball and the pin on the low side and notice any changes in the surface between the two --- uphill, downhill, rise in the middle, etc. Then behind the ball and figure if I hit the ball right at the hole, which way would it go? If I think it will go one foot to the right, I aim one foot to the left. Now all I have to do is get the ball closer to the pin for starters. 😁

[@Alces561]

Usually love the content. Unfortunately it shows you didn’t do your homework when it comes to AimPoint. I would suggest at least watching AimPoint express before trying to explain it.

[@apokalypz08]

I just walk up behind ball, squat and read it. Like Tiger says, just putt to the picture. Don't over complicate it. Make sure to spend at least 10min at the practice green for a course before the round, b/c no other way to really get a good feel for speed. And if its a cheap public muni, then greens may plaly different so you may want to spend some time at first green with some extra putts to get a more accurate feel for the course cutt vs what they had at the practice green.

[@Dbgolfnski]

look at green, determine speed, see break, hit putt, hope.

[@johnrowell3583]

If you're going to compare aimpoint to something else, you need to understand how to do aimpoint! Too many misunderstandings here on aimpoint I'm afraid.

[@kevray5858]

yep you have to stand over the ball not 10 feet behind the ball using aimpoint and stimp speed by moving arm forward or back , i use both as a tool it will give you an idear

[@sr8677]

The way I learned aimpoint was to only go 1 putter length behind your ball to look at your finger *from 10 feet or further out*… looked like you were way too far back to set your aimpoint.

[@scottzimmerman5182]

The most important part of plumb bob is you can find with pretty good certainty where the straight putt is. Then, you can determine where you are in the 360 degree circle relative to the straight fall line. I think of it like a clock face. You don't have to worry about whether it is 9:30 versus 10:00 because more slope will change the hang of the putter and show you more (or less) break. Then, you just have to match up your preferred speed to the line that the plumb bob is showing you. Is generally 1/3, 1/2, maybe 2/3rds of the distance (for me). I will add 1/2 more break on greens with a lot of slope or that are running very fast (downhill)-- and then cut the distance by about 1/4. That is a "safety" putt that should die somewhere around the hole if you miss. Plumb bob has its limitations: on greens that undulate a lot, you have to just read close to the hole and figure out what the last 10 feet or so do. Otherwise, you are standing on the wrong slope and won't get and accurate read. Also, you have to alway read with your dominant eye, and you need to determine how your putter hangs so that its vertical. You can compare it to a vertical line like a door jamb and find the vertical hang. I put a dot on my grip with a silver sharpie that faces me when my putter hangs vertical. And, I know how far to rotate if I want to read down the right side of the putter versus the left. All and all, plumb bob is pretty easy and fast to use, and gives you a pretty accurate read line that with a bit of experience and adjustment, you will have a read and speed. I just carry a small note card that has 7:00, 8:00,. 9:00, 10:00 and 11:00. Obviously, on side of the clock is a mirror of the other. That's it: 5 or 6 reads / speeds, and a few notes if the greens get fast or have lots of slope.

[@OTGAuGres]

How many pros use neither? Just curious.

[@klientastic]

Bro!! You walking up and counting off feet of the putt while describing aimpoint was game changing right now! Gosh I’m an idiot!!

[@rommelhermoso2724]

I am an avid follower… I would just like point out that in aimpoint you dont align your fingers on your ball… you stand on top of your ball then align you finger to the middle of the hole… that is why your read was off the actual read… Plumb bob- you should zero your putter first in order to get the correct alignment…(ref mr. One Putt… he has a video regarding zeroing of your putter❤

[@MrKillahippo]

It's all gestimation,, Local knowledge is the best system. on straight putts my ball would always go right of the hole, a pro showed me how to work out the dominate eye and at what degree. once I saw my right eye had 2* right aim, I just aimed 2* left for a straight putt. dropped 2-3 more putts on my course.

[@theimpaler5034]

I use neither I use the 1/2 1 2 3 cup method way better works a treat for me I’m so use to it and I won’t change all these new methods just slow the game down maybe set up a chalk line or laser level when practising these 2 drills

[@BrianLewis-f4d]

HI Matt, I'm just now watching this episode. In general, I agree with your assessments, in that there are a lot of caveats, such as finger width, putter shaft, etc. I'm a bit incredulous that one can accurately measure slope differences with their legs. Secondly, one needs an accurate speed determination as well. So I'm not sure that either method is accurate at all. Why? Because both methods in a sense have a speed already "set" for that particular aim point. What speed is that? Beats me. I was taught the opposite way. Calibrate your putts on the practice green and then read breaks by eye and adjust speed accordingly. But I digress...

[@Planeiron]

plumber Bob for me, but I don't play anymore....Great Vid⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳

[@Charzander570]

Hold your putter up to something plump like a door jamb. Rotate your putter shaft in your fingers to the putter shaft is in line with the door jamb

[@8dragonsx]

Would be great to see you redo this video using a Stimpmeter rather than a putter so as to remove a variable from the test

[@aaronjolly2337]

Dad gum 1 hour into posting and everyone telling you youre doing it wrong. Epic fail 🤣

[@scottysize]

I like to feel the slope with my feet to verify what I"m seeing with my plumb bob. So I will walk the line pacing off the steps and then divide by 3. I will straddle the hole and straddle my ball. Then I go through my routine. It works for me?

[@Bassbaby838]

Matt, I’m sure with the plumb Bob you’d previously used your opposite arm to your dominant eye to get the line?

[@galemurphy4914]

I recall this as well in an earlier video. This video does a much better job of describing and showing the plumb Bob method. So kudos for that.

[@cbus3353]

Great explanation, Matt!

[@mlobitz]

much easier to use the level function on your phone to get a value for degrees of slope.

[@zacharysbrennan5376]

good video. i like using plum bob

[@jayjohnson4000]

Great camera work!!

[@Handletaken4]

When I get to a course I drop 3 balls on the green, pull my putter back 12" and measure how many paces they went. Then I do it back the other way. Then I calculate the average (10 paces up and 12 back) So I know a smooth 12" back and through gently accelerating goes 11 paces on a flat green. Get to first hole and have a 15 pace putt uphill. This will require about 18 paces of energy. So I pull my putter back 20" or so and I will be amazingly close. Also in one of your previous videos you pointed out that an uphill putt breaks less than a flat putt and a downhill putt breaks 1.5-2.0x as much as an uphill putt. 😜

[@johnbell1374]

With all due respect...this will probably create more slow play on public courses....but ur instruction is comprehensive.

[@jaredshearsgolf]

It’s % of slope not *. This is why only certified instructors should teach this.

[@76MUTiger]

Matt, you say slope is measured in degrees. Not so. It's measured in percent of slope. Get a little level that gives a digital readout. Walk around the practice green. Put the level down. Guess the slope. Look at the digital readout. Do this over and over, anywhere on the green. You can easily stay out of people's way. You adapt to green speed by bringing your fingers close to your eye. Faster greens have more break, so fingers move closer to you. Some pros will have marks on their putter shafts to calibrate how far the fingers should be from their eye for a particular Stimp speed, such as 13 (e.g. put the putter head on the right shoulder. Put your fingers on the 13 mark on your shaft. Now you know.).

[@fritzbeiswenger-ws7yk]

Better to subscribe to and view the aim point video which will give you the true method. It’s not degrees of slope it’s % slope and you read is way off because you lined up the putt way behind the ball.

[@BullishBananaTrader]

I just lay down like Camilo Villegas. Inb4 amateur golfers will have the 4 foot levels out on the course now.

[@Alan1michel]

Go watch golf sidekick video on it. Very well done

[@ek9589]

If you have a greensbook with the slope numbers aimpoint is insanely good

[@Rome1031]

Wow, Aim point potentially slows down the game and adds footprints to the greens😢 We should all give Aimpoint the finger😂

[@bronsonmcnulty1110]

i would give it 2 fingers , one for each hand ....

[@golfspeed5559]

I hope you have done a certified aim point course because it looked like a mess your example

[@keithpanco]

I use aimpoint without the feet. If I see a slope I just give it one finger, and two for a bigger slope. Gets me real close most of the time.

[@totallynotjaxon6365]

Can you please review mistwood golf club in Illinois it is one of the top public golf courses!!

[@justanaussie2822]

For me speed is more important than aim. If I miss the hole but I’m only a foot away no mater what direction, it’s a 2 putt. Every so often you will get a 1 putt. Secondly, aim point takes too long. It’s so frustrating waiting for someone to walk up and down feel the slope figure out the angle, divide by 27 add there age, multiple by how many kids they have practice the putt 15 times. Then miss by heaps then blame the green staff.

[@laman327]

Anyone know what shoes he’s wearing?

[@donjacobson818]

How on earth did Bobby Jones, Horton Smith, Walter Hagen, Jack Nicklaus, Ben Crenshaw, et al, put so well without AimPoint or plumb bobbing? And the idea that someone can feel a mere 1% slope through golf shoes--having a 1/2" or more sole--is simply ludicrous.

[@ottawapop]

I spent an hour practicing plumb bob, the math can’t work. Lining up behind you ball will always produce the same alignment regardless of the slope. The practice green we have is 70% a sloped flat plane ( really stupid). Didn’t matter where I was the reading it was always the same from any angle because you’re always aligning the same thing.

[@johnrowell3583]

In other words, if you line up putter over ball to hole, it will always line up as if a straight putt? This is what I found doing it myself. I don't understand how plumb bob works.

[@ottawapop]

@@johnrowell3583 exactly. If you line up behind the ball with a laser, the laser runs through the two holes regardless of the slope of the green. If someone could please explain what I’m not getting, I’d appreciate it because I’d really like this to work.

[@johnrowell3583]

@@ottawapop Thanks for the reply. So yeah, I have the same issue and I just don't get it. Would love to understand what I'm missing.

[@chrisschuster9423]

8:25 also… you should use some kind of pendulum putt device for consistent exact force.. no offense, but your putt force will vary despite your clear skills..

[@tlavery59]

I apologize for missing this video when it was first posted 11 months ago. I usually enjoy your content, but I noticed some inaccuracies in your explanation of the Aimpoint Method. You might want to consider getting a lesson from Mark Sweeney, the creator of Aimpoint Express. Your description of the Aimpoint method has a few issues: The level you’re using to learn the slope is incorrect. You’re standing in the wrong place behind the ball to make your read. You’re measuring the slope from the incorrect part of the hole. You didn’t calibrate the arm bend on the practice green before the round, which is crucial for an accurate read. If you took an Aimpoint lesson, you’d be amazed at how well you could read the greens. Watching Mark Sweeney read a complex double-breaking putt in 20 seconds and place a 20-footer right next to the hole is truly impressive. While speed is always crucial for any putt, as you demonstrated, the Aimpoint method, with a bit of practice, will not disappoint. Consider doing a video with Sweeney, and I’m sure you’ll become a believer.

[@10UPn2DOWN]

I'm dizzy now. Gonna get a cold beer

[@larryjonak3617]

Plumb bob for sure. I have arthritis in my feet and one leg is shorter than the other.

[@iremembercliford]

This is not how aim point works. You're not aiming with it properly by standing so far behind the ball. And your insinuation that it won't work because everyone's fingers are different is covered in any aim point lesson. It's not meant to be one size fits all.

[@camperschoice8802]

I use a digital slope indicator to tell me the slope of the green.

[@MrBlueleon]

before you plumbob you find the balance point of your putter , you line up that point on the putetr shaft with your ball when holding the putter vertical 👍

[@ottawapop]

How can that matter if the shaft is plumb?

[@MrBlueleon]

because the angle will change if you line up with different points on the putter and for consitant slope reading its better to always use the same refference point🤷‍♂and it works better-simple@@ottawapop

[@ottawapop]

@@MrBlueleon I’ll get back to another comment I made further up the thread. Align a laser from behind the ball to the hole.Regardless of the slope, the line will always be straight just like a plumb bob on the laser line. I can’t see any way possible that the shaft will all of a sudden read 12” off due to slope.

[@MrBlueleon]

@@ottawapop do what you do and I’ll do what I do it’s called golf ⛳️

[@thedeeprot]

Love it as always matey! 🔥

[@clintonstumpf5210]

Plumbob. Aim point is way to much homework.

[@rayviola9444]

Can you do more vids on plumbob

[@seegarsmkr]

The way I was taught AimPoint is to be up to the ball with my heels on each side of the ball when you use your fingers.

[@kwaste]

Hey Matt I think the folks we play with around here in California would be hitting into to you. Basically saying get moving guys, we got a lot more to do today. Like drink beer and get high.

[@thomaslahr9022]

How about us weekenders just eyeball it and keep pace of play at four hours.

[@nicktopinoplus8393]

Never understood how plumb bob worked. This makes more sense.

[@greghrice]

Incorrect Aim Point demo. He aimed from well behind the ball where’s as AimPoint aiming with 1-5 fingers is to be sited from standing AT the ball. This also explains why his erroneous AimPoint measurements were too wide. He also is not good at Plumb Bob

[@malachi2371]

In your first video on Plum bombing, you would hold the putter with the opposite hand of your dominant eye… On this one you use the same side… Why the difference?

[@MarkSweeney-q6k]

You get too much break because you have absolutely no idea what you’re doing.

[@mike1wmike1w]

Over the past two years I have enjoyed watching your videos and have implemented a number of your tips into my game. However, I was very disappointed with the “AimPoint vs Plumb Bob video”, these are two very different, very difficult skills to master. Within just a few minutes into the video it was obvious that you don’t use either one of them and have only scratched the surface on how to properly use them. This past year I have put both methods to the test on and off the course. I am self taught by reading books, articles watching videos and then testing these ideas and as with everything on the internet a lot of information is just not correct. Just this year my putting has improved significantly using the AimPoint Method and it does not take me a lot of time on the green to determine the line. Plumb Bob seems to work best with putts of 15-feet or less with a single break and that is taking three readings and not just one as shown on your video. So at the end of the day don’t just throw some mud on the wall concerning these subjects and hope that something sticks for your viewers. Take some time and really put the two methods to the test with the correct setup and correct implementation. Then I think your viewers would like another video entitled “AimPoint Vs Plumb Bob Part 2”. Keep up the good work and great videos.

[@grantbaben4016]

lame point vs spongue bob?

[@joeidaho5938]

Never seen someone plumb bob aim....even as a carpenter....lol.

[@maximiliantuma2007]

Wow, best ever

[@nickcharli1025]

Hahahah dead at this. Hammering putts saying it’s off

[@rm00k]

Of course neither method tells you how hard to hit it! There are many breaks, depending on your speed.

[@kavanpyle1352]

Tumi the plumb bob is more about feel

[@kavanpyle1352]

2 mi

[@Rich-ey7jv]

I'm an okay putter, I just eyeball it. If I try AimPoint, I just get too stiff and come up way short.

[@ralfliebhaber3543]

You must stand at the ball. If you stand way behind the ball you aim to much away from the target.

[@par5611]

You stand AT the ball and aim, NOT 5 feet behind it. Aim point only works if done correctly. I think you are making way to difficult.

[@ellisboys78]

Very useful video. Thanks for sharing!

[@jamesreynolds4220]

If I were an aspiring pro, I might try to learn aimpoint. As a 74 year old amateur, I'm way too lazy to learn a system that complicated. I like plumb-bob for those putts that are difficult to determine whether or not there's a small break. Big breaks require lots of practice which leads us to intuitive feel. I hate to see too many feet around the hole. Seeing a caddy doing aimpoint on t.v. upsets me, should be banned. More feet around the hole mean more missed short putts, and perhaps long putts as well. If you are putting for bogey or more, miss it quick and get off the green.

[@gaviscon999]

You’re supposed to take the reading with your fingers at the ball not 10 feet behind it

[@calvindebeverly7410]

This plumb-bob method makes no sense! You say cover the left side of the ball but you don't way what you are aiming at. The video is too blurry to see what you are aiming at. I could stand on the other side of the ball and do the same thing you did but the putt would be going in the oposite direction from the cup to use an extreme example. What did I miss?

[@chuckyz2]

The best putters that ever played this game used neither of these methods. They walked around the line looking at it from all angles. I do it that way. I also look at the green as I am driving up or walking up to it. If there any type of building in the distance, you know that the roof line is level and can use that to help you see the break. If someone steps on my line using aim point I will get pissed. Not just annoyed. With my method, you can do it without being forced to stand in certain spot. You can back off and still see it. I can see the break better looking at it from the sides. Seeing if it is up hill or down. Example. I will bend down behind the ball first and catch a look. I will then walk down the right side 5 or so feet away and stop a few times and look to see if it is up or down. If the slope is coming toward me, the ball will too. It will break right. The I catch a look from behind the hole back towards the ball then walk back to the ball on the other side of the line. For me, the uphill reads are more accurate. It will usually look like a little break looking uphill and straight looking down hill. I just split the difference favoring the uphill read a little. I am always checking myself looking at things I know are level for self calibration. It's a rabbit hole and there are a lot of elements at play. Like your ball. Is it level? Have you ever got a perfect read and hit down the same line at the same speed only to see the ball break differently than the one you just watched. Happens all the time. It's the balls gentlemen. Salt float them and you will see what I am talking about. You can test a hole box of new balls, even high end balls, and get imbalances all over the board. Even if yours are all hand picked with perfect balance, you opponents are not. You can only get a general idea of the break getting a read. Trust what you see when you read the green, if you have a good skills reading it. And learn from it. Then after a long time intuition will kick in. Your subconscious mind sees more than you ever will. Because there are a lot of factors you just can't see. Aim point and plumb bob are just a few. They only read the section you check. You need to learn to read the entire line. Don't waist your time with those methods. Walk around the line and read it from all directions. Train yourself to see it. Watch Tiger when he was in his prime. Watch Jack in his.

[@fredeisen7401]

plumb bob

[@Jmo1290]

He did both of these incorrectly lol