Ain't It Fun EXPLAINED + Why Ivy and Dove's Rivalry Sucked【SPEEDPAINT】

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Thank you so much for getting Ain't It Fun to 1 million!! The support I receive from you guys is crazy and I seriously can't thank you all enough. You guys voted, so I decided I'd explain the PMV and answer some questions about it! I hope this allows you guys to see the PMV in a new light!
As for the rant, this is something about Omen of the Stars and the relationship between Ivypool and Dovewing that has been bugging me since the second I read Night Whispers. I think that their little rivalry was super underdeveloped and shallow and could have been so much more intense had the authors explored some different options, which is why I decided to share my opinion on the topic!
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@roseshards
@roseshards 5 жыл бұрын
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@kneelessnightcat9164
@kneelessnightcat9164 5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t comment that much during the stream because I wanted to watch you draw. Your drawing is really pretty! I love it!
@el.lo_o
@el.lo_o 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have your own amino?
@el.lo_o
@el.lo_o 5 жыл бұрын
@Kyottoko Shiroko张琪琪 I know, I was checking, I'm sorry if I seemed rude
@emiled8409
@emiled8409 5 жыл бұрын
WAIT SORRY BUT ARE YOU USING KRITA OMG OML
@noyouboowtd2298
@noyouboowtd2298 5 жыл бұрын
Ivypool did need to become a Dark Forest warrior because if not she wouldn't of heard their plans until it was too late, and it would of drastically changed the Arc.
@cassidywilliams8498
@cassidywilliams8498 5 жыл бұрын
It would've made the series so much more serious if Ivypaw had learned about the prophecy and told the Dark Forest about it, including which cats had what powers. I love the idea of Ivypaw/pool being a true Dark Forest Warrior, and only at the end realizing all the mistakes she has made.
@roseshards
@roseshards 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh yessss, that could have made things SO much more intense! And I think that the whole Jay and Breeze fight at the Moonpool happened before OOTS, but like??? It would have given Brokenstar I think it was an actual valid reason to be there and to encourage Breeze to try and kill them
@Littlegreetings
@Littlegreetings Жыл бұрын
@@roseshards AND it would finally be not the goody two shoes always winning. I was so happy Darktail got somewhere with 3 clans, and Ashfur finally got control of some but OF COURSE some goody two shoes had to figure it out
@CottonSpotten
@CottonSpotten 5 жыл бұрын
i have this villain ivypool/good breezepelt au where dovewing's confession does make stuff worse :o (as for breeze, he just wanted to make crowfeather proud, so when he found out what was rlly going on in the dark forest, he decided that siding with them wouldnt make crow proud)
@rowanisntreal
@rowanisntreal 3 жыл бұрын
ivy is one of my faves, and i would hate to se her go evil. that being said, this au sounds super interesting!
@eleanormunt2860
@eleanormunt2860 4 жыл бұрын
I can definitely relate to Ivypool's feelings towards Dovewing. As someone who has a learning disability and who has a sister who is naturally good at most thing's, it would become so frustrating with how she could manage to do anything and do it well without even trying. Meanwhile, when I tried I could barely get a pass, was only really good at one thing and struggled with a language I grew up with. It's childish, but the resentment and jealousy builds quickly, especially when things seem to be changing quickly.
@calathea248
@calathea248 5 жыл бұрын
And one thing I’ve noticed, is in the books it says that the living cats who train in the dark forest whilst sleeping still receive wounds in the real world. And, the training has been happening for a very long time. Yet no cat NOT in the dark forest has witnessed a wound being inflicted on a cat whilst the cat was sleeping. Surely some cat would have noticed their denmate moving around in their sleep, and they would have watched them, or just looked over. Wouldn’t they seen then a wound being inflicted, without anyone around to do so? Wouldn’t this arouse suspicion? Why didn’t the Erin’s put this in, as it would surely make the ‘secret training in the dark forest’ less secret and it would add a whole new element of interest to the arc. Anyone agree?
@spacedoge4363
@spacedoge4363 3 жыл бұрын
I both agree and don't. Tbh I have no idea why I don't I just feel like that would be really hard to write? I dunno. (I feel like i sound really dumb while i write this lol) Perhaps it could be a thing where it was like "Someone notices you have to deal with them one way or another"? I dunno lol
@silverbreezews8254
@silverbreezews8254 5 жыл бұрын
I especially liked this speedpaint and rant because you view OoTS from a different point of view. I was half-expecting you to start ranting on how 'horrible' Dovewing is or something, so I was especially amazed when you started talking on how being a Dark Forest spy does not make Ivypool special, and your ending for the last half of OoTS would have been a LOT more fitting. Your advice on PMVs was actually very helpful as I'm working on right now, and I loved to hear about Ain't It Fun! You drew all scenes very well.
@el.lo_o
@el.lo_o 5 жыл бұрын
Rose, do you want to start doing tutorials?
@starcycle4308
@starcycle4308 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@lpsdogqueens
@lpsdogqueens 3 жыл бұрын
For?
@ZephyzWorld
@ZephyzWorld 5 жыл бұрын
I think Ivypool letting go of her jealousy when she finds out Dovewing had powers was a good call. Before it was two ordinary warriors one of which happened to be better at tasks than the other. They were on the same playing field which made Ivypool pissed that she just couldn't keep up despite being on the same ground. However, when Ivypool learns that Dovewing's abilities aren't natural, that they aren't really even in the same game, and that there is a REASON why they aren't even, she lets it go realizing she doesn't have to match Dovewing. Dovewing ISN'T an ordinary warrior so Ivypool shouldn't hold herself to the same standards set for Dovewing. In reality, Ivypool is just as good if not better than most ORDINARY Thunderclan warriors and that's really all she ever wanted. If she kept up her jealousy the way it was going at that point it would have been pointless at best and annoying at worst.
@theoumber6604
@theoumber6604 5 жыл бұрын
An idea I heard (I think from TenelleFlowers but don't yell at me if I'm wrong) was that IVYPAW was given to LIONBLAZE, and DOVEPAW the CINDERHEART, so Ivypaw could be jealous that her mentor was spending more time with her sister than her, increasing their rivalry.
@hopebirges1053
@hopebirges1053 5 жыл бұрын
tbh Omen of the Stars was an extreme let down. They could've made it so much more powerful and emotional. They portrayed Bluestars insanity and old age taking over her mind WONDERFULLY. I wish they could have done something similar with Ivypools growing rage and jealousy :L Edit: WHAT SENPAI NOTICED ME??? FHUYEBUYVRYW And also, I feel like they should've made Ivypool want nothing to do with the prophecy. She would've been angry at the thing that robbed her of her sister since that's what truly fits her personality. Then, she would agree to fight with thunderclan, not because of the prophecy, but because she would fight with her clan to the death. Maybe out of spite she would try to stop visiting the Dark Forest, but end up being forced back there and to train. Idk, but they shouldn't have added the "spy" thing in my opinion. :/ Edit: Everyone who's defending me, thanks
@danni5679
@danni5679 5 жыл бұрын
Your edit is stupid. Remind me who thinks of what happens in the series? Ah, that’s right, Vicky. NOT YOU. Who are you to say what the Erin’s should or shouldn’t have wrote? And ‘that prey’s chewed and eaten now’, anyway, so there was no need for your input. I think the spy thing was the best part of OotS, that and the great battle. But I don’t go round saying what the authors SHOULD and SHOULDNT have wrote! Honestly
@hopebirges1053
@hopebirges1053 5 жыл бұрын
@@danni5679 I was just saying what my own opinion on the matter was. I'll admit, it was a great series (not as good as some of the others, but still good. but not worth all the hype), but I'm just sharing what I thought would have made it better, personally. You can have your OWN opinions, but don't attack me for having mine. Don't get up in my ass because I'm sharing my thoughts. I would have been fine if you had said it politely. Also, note that I said they COULD'VE and I FEEL. I'm not saying they SHOULD HAVE i'm saying my alternatives were a possibility that they could have chosen. Honestly, use your two working brain cells before typing something out dickhead.
@danni5679
@danni5679 5 жыл бұрын
Xx_Void_xX ah, so I’m the one with the two working brain cells? Look at you now, in the process of defending yourself, you contradicted yourself. You said that you never wrote in that edit, the word “should’ve” and yet at the end of the long ass useless paragraph u said “they shouldn’t of added the spy thing” which first of all makes absolutely no sense, and second means now you’re just lying. So if you had a read of that shitty edit you’d see that. You also said that you liked OotS but it wasn’t as good as the others but in your first comment you said it was an extreme let down. And now you’ll reply with triggered and “savage” insults like the rest of the airheaded people who think I attacked them when I was simply saying it in a way that wasn’t as soft and sympathetic as you’d want it to be, I’m sorry you were butt hurt about the way I ‘attacked you’. Who is the dick with two brain cells now, shithead?
@birdsocks9083
@birdsocks9083 5 жыл бұрын
British Shorthairs Are The Best of All Breeds Your comments are incredibly hateful and to be frank these comments make you sound like an rude and foolish person. People know that Vicky wrote the books (Vicky no longer has anything to do with writing the books ghost writers now write the books after a plot is written by Cherith.) OP just was just pointing out what she thinks could be improved and how she would like it to be rewritten.
@hopebirges1053
@hopebirges1053 5 жыл бұрын
@@birdsocks9083 THANK YOU-
@chastelysherendills8223
@chastelysherendills8223 5 жыл бұрын
honestly, there wasn't much of a rivalry at all, it was mostly just Ivypool getting butthurt while dovewing did her best to be a good sister, bit still got upset because Ivypool would yell at her or ignore her idk maybe that's just me
@itrytoexplain6538
@itrytoexplain6538 5 жыл бұрын
You should make your own amino, it'd be super fun!
@vince_ahaha
@vince_ahaha 5 жыл бұрын
Prim Rose She did! It’s in her description ^w^
@roseshards
@roseshards 5 жыл бұрын
Someone made one for me! I'm just horribly inactive there at the moment because I don't know what to post haha
@0hnutty455
@0hnutty455 5 жыл бұрын
just post art and shit posts, that's what I did in my days of amino xD@@roseshards
@ImminentCabbage
@ImminentCabbage 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like the reason she wasn’t so upset when she finally had learned that her sister was so important, was because by now she had grown up and matured much more, and had learned how bad her jealousy had made the situation.
@ImminentCabbage
@ImminentCabbage 5 жыл бұрын
I haven’t read these books in a long time, so I may be wrong.
@GippyHappy
@GippyHappy 5 жыл бұрын
Most of the problems in these books come from a lack of focus, usually because they are trying to balance too many characters and too many subplots.
@urban9464
@urban9464 5 жыл бұрын
:0 I've been waiting for this Edit: Just watched it I loved it and keep up the awesome work
@Mor1moo
@Mor1moo 5 жыл бұрын
SRT UrbanCat same
@luqaas
@luqaas 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with this- Like it was such an interesting concept yet it was poorly written. and I think it would be a very good idea that when Dovewing confessed she WOULD get angry, and completely turn to the dark forest. and like you said, maybe then she becomes unstable for whatever reason and starts seeing the horrors then she starts to turn on them.
@jadedghostt
@jadedghostt 5 жыл бұрын
honestly I really wish Ivypool should’ve gotten even more resentful after learning of the prophecy. I wish she DID fight for the dark forest honestly bc one she would make an amazing bitter villain who’s actually powerful and grew up feeling the feelings that inspired her. plus I adore breezepelt so any cat similar to him is a fav of mine as well. I love breezepelts emotion arc and whole family drama and I think he’s the best character. I do love ivypool cuz she’s strong and was enjoying being in the dark forest for a while but when she got all defensive for her clan I just didn’t see any reason why she would care tbh. eh well we can’t change it but hopefully the erin’s develop better character conflicts in the future
@icecat1410
@icecat1410 5 жыл бұрын
I actually love Breezepelt as well. IDK why so many people hate him. He's just a Ivypool and Jayfeather hybrid, so why is he hated and they are adored? IS IT BECAUSE HE HURT THAT PREGNANT CAT THAT ONE TIME IN THAT ONE BOOK?
@roseshards
@roseshards 5 жыл бұрын
That's another reason why Ivypool's story would have been so much more entertaining had it been a bit more like Breezepelt's! Though I don't think Ivypool should have been a full on villain it'd be amazing to actually see stuff from more of a bad character's perspective.
@icecat1410
@icecat1410 5 жыл бұрын
@Evangeline Clearsky I like Crowfeather. I just think he's a broken man that made many mistakes. He could never let go of Feathertail's death. The only one I hate here is Nightcloud. :/
@icecat1410
@icecat1410 5 жыл бұрын
@Evangeline Clearsky I do agree with you. What Crowfeather did was terrible, but I love characters that do things just to cover up their emotions. Crowfeather was obviously a broken man, and he did stupid things just to cope with his emotions. I love characters that are not really villains, but have a bad effect on certain characters.
@rockextract2943
@rockextract2943 3 жыл бұрын
I personally hate dowewing, and it’s probably because I’m very similar to ivypool, since I get jealous and angry really easily, and I had friends that were surrounded by the spotlight and not even giving me a glance
@ethana9173
@ethana9173 5 жыл бұрын
God I just spent the whole video admiring your art, especially the way you do backgrounds. It’s so details and pretty, oh my god.
@spacedoge4363
@spacedoge4363 3 жыл бұрын
The treeeeees, THE TREES ARE JUST PERFECT LOL
@cheems13
@cheems13 5 жыл бұрын
Ohhh! Ok. I always assumed that this PMV was just another diss on Dovewing, just in PMV form, which I very much am sick of, so this 'Explained' video really helped me to love the original video like everyone else. Thank you Roseshards!
@_rosey_.7988
@_rosey_.7988 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVED THE PMV SO MUCH
@lepardx1627
@lepardx1627 5 жыл бұрын
I really like your design for Ivypool and Dovewing! Edit: the captions say IV and Dubbing, and Hopf for Ivypool, Dovewing and Hawkfrost XD
@theoumber6604
@theoumber6604 5 жыл бұрын
Can't trust captions.
@ciderofthearctic392
@ciderofthearctic392 5 жыл бұрын
8:10 If ya can't use blue, or if ya can't use green... Ya can definitely use TURQUOISE for Dovewing's eyes XD
@dejuancollinssr.7698
@dejuancollinssr.7698 5 жыл бұрын
When your such Hamiltrash that even hearing a single word from any of the songs makes you sing the entire soundtrack: Rosie: And BrightHeart is left to helpless- Me: HELPLESSSSSSSS Rosie: .... Me: 😅 Rosie: And BrightHeart is left to helplessly defend th- Me: LOOK INTO YOUR EYES AND THE SKIES THE LIMIT I'M-
@silverstream3531
@silverstream3531 5 жыл бұрын
Hazel The Cat OwO haha yes! That happened to me xD
@rox_do_ur_animations
@rox_do_ur_animations 4 жыл бұрын
Sameeeeeee I love Hamilton
@spacedoge4363
@spacedoge4363 3 жыл бұрын
Stop calling me out... Lol, hello fellow hamil trashies
@pastelfluff
@pastelfluff 2 жыл бұрын
Hello fello Hamilton garbage
@mokioti2589
@mokioti2589 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think this song can be directed at dovewing from Ivypool’s PoV as well as at Ivypool. Kinda like Ivypool’s criticising her sister with the same words she uses for herself.
@siilverrx1745
@siilverrx1745 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I know I'm late, but finally somebody who understands my favorite character, (Dovewing) and doesn't think she's a stuck-up brat!
@kimornyaa
@kimornyaa 5 жыл бұрын
Those 7 dislikes are from Hawkfrost and his spare accounts
@EverRain
@EverRain 5 жыл бұрын
You’re just...... A LEGEND
@li_the_artist1182
@li_the_artist1182 5 жыл бұрын
YASSSSSSS QUEEN. I loved the map, and have been waiting for thiss!!!! :3
@strawberryshowers2009
@strawberryshowers2009 5 жыл бұрын
Bailey Ate My Channel it was a pmv...
@deerprynce
@deerprynce 5 жыл бұрын
it wasn’t a map tho
@wistiplayz7801
@wistiplayz7801 5 жыл бұрын
It is a PMV
@shoelaces9857
@shoelaces9857 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, she gets it. It's not a map. If you see one person correct her. Dont just say the same thing. Yes I agree it was fantastic!
@ivyice8394
@ivyice8394 5 жыл бұрын
Stupid fur ball
@EXHO
@EXHO 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation on the PMV, and the speed paint along with it. Beautiful work as always Rose!
@Kcisnthere
@Kcisnthere 5 жыл бұрын
Yo my oc Splash made it into the video 😂😂
@lunasus7924
@lunasus7924 5 жыл бұрын
I’m really weird. I can’t just listen to a song- I imagine a map/animation to it lol
@suandhamilfam7125
@suandhamilfam7125 4 жыл бұрын
I do the same thing
@Icantchangemyhandlehelp
@Icantchangemyhandlehelp 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@madelainewentzel2362
@madelainewentzel2362 5 жыл бұрын
Ain't It Fun is my FAVORITE pmv eveeeeeeer seriously its just so amazing and awesome and dramatic and emotions an yaaaaaas
@ReaganButHesDrawing
@ReaganButHesDrawing 3 жыл бұрын
Hawkfrost reminds me of a child groomer. He visits ivypool when she needed someone the most and praised her and supported her to gain her trust.
@shxd0wwz
@shxd0wwz 5 жыл бұрын
as soon as i seen you were posting a speedpaint on here for ivypool and dovewing on amino i rushed right away! but then i seen it was an explaining video for aint it fun and i was EVEN MORE happier! i love that map so much, it even gave me a favorite song. good job!
@leafash8969
@leafash8969 5 жыл бұрын
Dang your art is just so amazing, and your contributions to this community are legendary. Thank you! You're a huge inspiration to me! That's all 😊
@nutmeg6051
@nutmeg6051 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree Ivypool ruined her own life and relationship with her envy and jealousy but changes around the last moment.
@ivyice8394
@ivyice8394 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck off dove lover
@masheddoq
@masheddoq 5 жыл бұрын
Annett Bryant Everyone has their own opinion. Calm down.
@deerwind
@deerwind 5 жыл бұрын
@@ivyice8394 1. opinions, 2. its true,,,,
@ivyice8394
@ivyice8394 5 жыл бұрын
It’s another bitch claiming to know that the hell Thier talking adout @annttebryant
@f-mega324
@f-mega324 5 жыл бұрын
@@ivyice8394 But there right...
@nagiwoofs
@nagiwoofs 5 жыл бұрын
CHLOE I LITERALLY CANT AGREE WITH YOU MORE ABOUT THEIR RIVARLY IT SUCKED SO BAD. And GOD I love these videos so much! They explain so much to me and I just love them, plus the speed paints are just so beautiful! Love your work!
@sacredstarrs
@sacredstarrs 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered, did the lyrics represent Ivypool or Dovewing?
@machinegirI
@machinegirI 5 жыл бұрын
North Mist same
@anoushkashenoy692
@anoushkashenoy692 4 жыл бұрын
they represent ivypool’s thoughts. she thinks of it towards dovepaw, but it actually applies to ivypaw. it’s a double meaning “when the world dont orbit around you.” ivypaw thinks dovepaw is self-centered, but the double meaning is that it’s actually applied to ivypaw
@sydkitty9832
@sydkitty9832 5 жыл бұрын
Just wanna note that the way you draw and shade trees is really inspiring and I’m not ashamed to say that I like to mimic how you do it. The painted look you give them really helps the characters pop honestly.
@vanyoub8573
@vanyoub8573 5 жыл бұрын
I clicked this video so fast 😂 I love your videos!
@sloaneenglivesandzero2462
@sloaneenglivesandzero2462 5 жыл бұрын
*quietly places here* Free ad skip: 1:46
@merp-daderp3159
@merp-daderp3159 5 жыл бұрын
Sloane ENGLivesAndZERO thx lol
@jeriko_studios
@jeriko_studios 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys Firestar- Simba Sandstorm- Nala Bluestar probably- Mufasa Sarabi- yellowfang or spottedleaf maybe? Kiara- Squirrelflight Nuka- Hawkfrost Kovu- Brambleclaw Kion- probably leafpool Vitani- either mothwing or tawnypelt Zira- either goldenflower or Sasha
@fluffyboi7815
@fluffyboi7815 5 жыл бұрын
I just love how you drew Ivypool so herione and brave like her character. But honestly Dovewing is the worst sister ever, she almost didn't help Ivypool and didn't really tried to help her up until the end. To be honest, Dovewing got the powers and most of the time she only used them for her own and not for the sake on the clan, while Ivypool atleast tried to do it for her clan even tough her ideas didn't come up so great as she thought... Btw I really liked your animation ;)!
@f-mega324
@f-mega324 5 жыл бұрын
How was Dovewing supposed to help Ivypool when she never told her anything
@angel-gx7zy
@angel-gx7zy 3 жыл бұрын
i like how you said that her yowl to the sky after killing antpelt was filled with not only triumph but also her pain (stemmed from jealousy) that was brewing inside of her for moons.
@slushie4584
@slushie4584 5 жыл бұрын
I've probably watched that PMV way too many times, and it's still one of my favorites 😁 I love your work Rose, and I hope you never stop drawing!
@celeree7
@celeree7 4 жыл бұрын
And people call Dovewing a jerk for this...
@Rockshadow91
@Rockshadow91 5 жыл бұрын
I think it would have been cool if they had the dark forest cats starting out as fading and transparent, as described in the books, but as they recruited more cats from the living world, they became more solid. It is explained that they are fading because people are forgetting them, so by that theory, as more cats meet them and become aware of their existence, they should become more solid. It would have also worked to symbolize the growing threat and their growing powers.
@AverageDonaldDuckFan
@AverageDonaldDuckFan 4 жыл бұрын
Unpopular Opinion: Dovewing doesn't deserve all the hate she gets. Ngl I wish they went deeper into the 'golden child who hates being on a pedestal' route. I think Dove being a take on what people like celebrities go through where they are expected to be perfect and flawless 24/7 and dealing with the pressures of upholding those standards would've been amazing
@estevaosilveira7778
@estevaosilveira7778 5 жыл бұрын
i love this picture sorry ... i love all your pictures and videos , you're fantastic
@bsgenius22
@bsgenius22 5 жыл бұрын
I love this PMV and you did an amazing job putting the story to the song!
@annalovell9498
@annalovell9498 5 жыл бұрын
This was always my favorite PMV, and the first of yours I’d ever watched!
@blondejulia
@blondejulia 5 жыл бұрын
I think that Ivypool didn’t care that Dovewing was part of the prophecy because she never even liked the idea. I’m not rly sure, it’s kinda confusing. But I love Ivypool wayyy more than Dovewing. I just hate Dovewing’s character. But that’s just my opinion. 🤷‍♀️ Btw, I LOVEEE the PMV! It was amazing!!
@eggbloom24
@eggbloom24 5 жыл бұрын
i really enjoyed your ain’t it fun video because as soon as i heard the song, i thought of ivypool and then you come song with your beautiful art and portray the same idea. i love your portrayal of how you saw the song and i felt kinda giddy because of how you saw the idea the same way i did
@dragoncorgswirsky6802
@dragoncorgswirsky6802 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the time put into exsplaning what goes on during the song
@stars-he5rd
@stars-he5rd 4 жыл бұрын
Say what you will about Ivypool, but she is one of my favorite characters. I like her rivalry with Dovewing, even if it has its flaws. Warriors is far from perfect, but we can enjoy the semi-good characters we get once and a while. I may add on to this later...
@Socky-man
@Socky-man Жыл бұрын
I think even if Ivy’paw was jealous but it was understandable because she always stood in the shadow and wasn’t as appreciated as her sister
@miotmiot7116
@miotmiot7116 3 жыл бұрын
Me, not having the opportunity to read omen of the stars; *I got an explanation of my fav character that I haven’t read of. I am grateful*
@user-ck7yz2xt8r
@user-ck7yz2xt8r 3 жыл бұрын
hollylef was my fav worrior cat :
@bobthebuilder9976
@bobthebuilder9976 5 жыл бұрын
Thx Rose for explaining🌹
@Evilta
@Evilta Жыл бұрын
Another thing I wish they'd mentioned more is the fact their father was a dark forest trainee as well
@happyflower3007
@happyflower3007 5 жыл бұрын
I really love your interpretation of dovewing, although I’ve always pictured ivypool as more of a lean and tall cat, sure she’s strong and muscular, but I’ve always considered the two sisters to be opposites, shape wise and personality wise. I’ve pictured ivypool as lean and tall, as well as kinda thin but also muscular, with sleek fur and angled face features. Then dovewing, I’ve always pictured her as short and kind of stocky, with fluffy fur, large ears, and softer facial features. I’m just offering some constructive criticism, so please don’t be offended, I am really impressed by your artwork and your style. Anyway, luv your vids! P.S. I loved the pmv you made for these two, keep up the good work!
@phre1771
@phre1771 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how long it's been sense you posted this. But,I'm aging with you're opinion the FULL way! I like the idea,even tho I don't relly read the books,I know what they are abaut. And,now,that I've herd you're Ida how it shud hawe went,I'm totally shocked they didn't actuly do that!!
@VyrewoIf
@VyrewoIf 5 жыл бұрын
Ok I gotta ask what brush did you use when adding the wood texture to the trees because MY GOODNESS I LOVE IT! I really struggle with backgrounds and I think it’s because I don’t have any textures brushes
@susanwhite444
@susanwhite444 3 жыл бұрын
I love Ivypools character development, she’s a good character (to me)
@EquinoxCOS
@EquinoxCOS 3 жыл бұрын
honestly- Ain't It Fun is my favorite map, Everything Moves follows close behind- I never noticed you made the map until i watched one of your videos and I was like "wait this is the same style as Ain't It Fun" And now I draw warrior cats more often and enjoy watching your videos. Edit: Ain't It Fun is one of my favorite songs :')
@alyiflareon629
@alyiflareon629 5 жыл бұрын
The constant bringing up of "I hate her bc she must hate me!" and "no you cant tell your sister crap" made me almost not want to finish this series... I do love it and all but that was the most annoying thing about any Warriors book Ive ever read.
@silverrivers
@silverrivers 5 жыл бұрын
This was great! I love the “ain’t it fun” PMV, and I’m thinking of doing one of “bury a friend” of some of my wolf OCs but we’ll see :)
@august6604
@august6604 5 жыл бұрын
Ava Beerman omg billie!!!! i want to do a map/pmv out of all the good girls go to hell based on one of my warriors ocs!
@silverrivers
@silverrivers 5 жыл бұрын
You totally should!
@sketchyskittlespng
@sketchyskittlespng 5 жыл бұрын
Thank god for addressing Ivypool and how fans blew up her spy role out of porportions! This was a great video
@sketchyskittlespng
@sketchyskittlespng 5 жыл бұрын
@@ivyice8394 I think it's just you that has to read the books my good pal. :p Literally Ivypool the spy managed to figure out some plans and kill a cat. Did you just not watch the video or...?
@f-mega324
@f-mega324 5 жыл бұрын
@@ivyice8394 But she didn't even tell lion Jay about ANYTHING that was happening in the Dark forest. She was a terrible spy and not a very good sister.
@ivyice8394
@ivyice8394 5 жыл бұрын
She did tell them she hated the dove because dove a bitch she new about the love with tiger. Dove was the bad sis not ivy
@sketchyskittlespng
@sketchyskittlespng 5 жыл бұрын
@@ivyice8394 Firstly. She never said much. Just how bad it is, a map, and who was in the dark forest. If you don't believe me, there's the wiki who retells the whole books. Secondly, Ivypool never hated her sister. She disagreed the fact Dovewing sought out Tigerheart and she was jealous of her at some point for simply getting attention. All Dovewing did was fall in love with the wrong cat. Truth is, they're both bad sisters to each other. But they are both good characters. If you want me to show evidence, then ask. Don't go hating on anyone that even slightly dislikes Ivypool. It's called an opinion.
@sketchyskittlespng
@sketchyskittlespng 5 жыл бұрын
@@ivyice8394 You know what i s bad though? Your writing. I can't even take you seriously :p
@apricot7
@apricot7 5 жыл бұрын
I am joined....uwu Also Ivypool and I are both whery jealus and stubborn,strong and i don't know why do i understand her so much...just like me but a cat(exept killing I'll never be brave to kill someone)
@tayolscribbles3062
@tayolscribbles3062 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Some one who finally shows that ivypool was just being stubborn!
@maplecloud9292
@maplecloud9292 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Your style and designs are really amazing! It inspires me
@Frostwing
@Frostwing 5 жыл бұрын
Great job! I will absolutely join the raffle! And the rant is great!
@fluffyphoenixwolf349
@fluffyphoenixwolf349 4 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest I love ivypool cause I can relate with her (except I don't train in hell lol)
@cubaku
@cubaku 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would have happened if Ivypool died. What do you think, HonestlyWhateverYouWant? And others?
@GingerGnat
@GingerGnat 4 жыл бұрын
she's told to prove herself by kil- fighting Antpelt 6:18 idk why that made me laugh
@marshall352
@marshall352 5 жыл бұрын
A nap idea I had was to make it about Thistleclaw and Snowfur with the song “Thousand Years” and it’s Snowfur singing it to Thistleclaw, her sister Bluestar, and her son, Whitestorm when she had passed on. She saw what Thistleclaw was doing, and thought that he could change, which is where the part “I’ll love you for a thousand years, I’ll love you for a thousand more” comes into play. Snowfur believes Thistleclaw can change, but he doesn’t.
@nazbelem8845
@nazbelem8845 5 жыл бұрын
When you said tigerstar came out from hideing i thought. THAT was bramble claw
@paintedstardust9588
@paintedstardust9588 5 жыл бұрын
Oh lord I was in the video xD or better my art was.. Anyway, the speedpaint was gorgeous as ever, I can't wait to see more! ^^
@destinysdestiny7173
@destinysdestiny7173 5 жыл бұрын
saw this posted on deviant art and then i got a notification and it was here!
@kozabe6740
@kozabe6740 4 жыл бұрын
Oh big Starclan! :0 This is beautiful!b :>
@SUNF4LL
@SUNF4LL 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of Ivypool being a loyal dark forest warrior because in the future series, she could’ve been the one manipulating cats into joining the dark forest and kind of being like the new Hawkfrost. This would make me love the series so much more because when I read Ivypaw training in the dark forest I was thinking “Yes a new potential female villain!” This is only my opinion tho so please don’t come attacking me
@jewelzlps9599
@jewelzlps9599 5 жыл бұрын
I love this MV! I watch it everyday
@Laura-qu9kz
@Laura-qu9kz 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video again! Love those talks. I can agree with you, it feels like you're exactly saying what I've been thinking xd. A lot makes sense :). Thank you for this!!
@phantomcat7990
@phantomcat7990 5 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%
@nxghtmaremsp
@nxghtmaremsp 3 жыл бұрын
I have to admit, as much as their sibling rivalry/jealousy wasn't handled the best, it reminds me of my own life experiences in 2015 - where my older brother was the perfect child and I got belittled for not being like him, so I can infact see why Ivy did what she did because I once felt the same. Well, with the only exception being that I now don't know how to talk to him because I feel so awkward :')
@byrdsayahh
@byrdsayahh 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Whateveryouwant! I thought this video was cool, and everything you do is better than I can do, so there’s that
@Asterhasmovedchannels
@Asterhasmovedchannels 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched this and i was thinking the exact sane thing about When she killed Antpelt
@random-sinner
@random-sinner 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why does everyone hate Dove?? She's nice and cute, caring about her clan
@bittersweet--nightshade
@bittersweet--nightshade 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think like that too. I personally love both OOTS sisters, but Dovewing is a little better in my opinion.
@random-sinner
@random-sinner 5 жыл бұрын
@@bittersweet--nightshade same, I still like ivypool, but she's just so unfair and mean towards dovewing sometimes, just because of her jealousy
@jadetheace
@jadetheace 5 жыл бұрын
1. People have opinions. 2. A lot of people sympathize with Ivypool because they know what it's like to have a sibling that outshines them. Also, Tigerheart's shadow is.... just read it for yourself.
@random-sinner
@random-sinner 5 жыл бұрын
@@jadetheace Oki, I didn't know this book existed XD, but thanks I'll read it!
@bittersweet--nightshade
@bittersweet--nightshade 5 жыл бұрын
@@jadetheace Well, I was stating *my* opinion here.
@altoonatuna2424
@altoonatuna2424 5 жыл бұрын
woah, if thats u in the clip that someones flicking through the app than woah!! youre so pretty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im choking :0
@RatPun
@RatPun 5 жыл бұрын
I loved ain’t it fun I listen to it everyday Like if you have the “Ain’t it fun disease of loving it 100%”
@riiobee
@riiobee 4 жыл бұрын
imo ivypaw reacting with jealousy, while not appropriate or acceptable, is still very excusable. from what i remember, they were extremely close when they were little, and it was hard for her to wrap her head around dovepaw suddenly being more important than her and “moving on” from their close bond, especially when she didn’t know the reasoning. (keep in mind they were apprentices and they would be about 12-14 as a human, so she can’t be expected to react to this maturely or rationally) she thought dovepaw was ignoring her to be in the center of attention, and she reacted with envy, and to me this wasn’t because she wanted to be the cat in the spotlight instead of dovepaw, but because she thought that dovepaw being there meant she didn’t want to be close with her anymore and that hurt her. and then she was manipulated by hawkfrost into thinking she was truly valued, which wasn’t good when she was currently thinking. tl;dr ivypaw was just a dumb teenager who was manipulated by her dumb jealously instead of being able to grow out of it as she grew up and many teenagers in her situation would react the same even if it wasn’t good
@riiobee
@riiobee 4 жыл бұрын
of course, this doesn’t make her behavior magically good or something, but she was just a kid. she can’t be expected to be super mature in a situation where she was constantly left behind
@owlwhisker0w031
@owlwhisker0w031 5 жыл бұрын
Ivy pool didn't kill antpelt. I recently read that part. They were actually fighting too light and I think Dark strip or another DF cat goes up to thrash Antpelt around cause Antpelt lost. I can't believe no one noticed this-
@FabulousFeathertail
@FabulousFeathertail 5 жыл бұрын
Frostbite0w0 YES SHE DID!
@peachyyworks5786
@peachyyworks5786 4 жыл бұрын
Sensational Sorreltail Ivypool just killed Antpelt’s spirit. Antpelt (living) was killed by the wounds inflicted to him by Thistleclaw (specifically the back and throat) for showing Ivypool sympathy during a training session, and he took that as him being a coward.
@owlwhisker0w031
@owlwhisker0w031 4 жыл бұрын
Peachyy Works mhm, I mean I guess In the end she did but not until he was already dead
@dusti27
@dusti27 5 жыл бұрын
this is really good and fresh
@maggiedavis2425
@maggiedavis2425 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, u definitely know bright Guardian akria . And frankly, he has a vid on the plight of dovewing and ivypool AND a song about it and tbh I’m on his side.
@adsyplays9566
@adsyplays9566 5 жыл бұрын
I think both Dark Forest & Starclan cats being slightly transparent show that they AREN'T fully there, part of them is STILL in there dead body.
@bluefrost4805
@bluefrost4805 5 жыл бұрын
i love your art!
@itsmeyesmeadmireme
@itsmeyesmeadmireme 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Evil Dovewing AU where Dovewing is mad at Ivypool for ignoring her and being jealous of her and she gets recruited into the Dark Forest. She then uses her powers to spy on StarClan for the Dark Forest and act double agent for the Dark Forest, telling them what the prophecy cats are doing along with the rest of the Clans. She could also lie about when the Dark Forest would attack and fight for them, never realising they were truly bad. The Dark forest succeeds because of it.
@teehee2108
@teehee2108 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I was in a chat room with Splash
@sakurayt7541
@sakurayt7541 5 жыл бұрын
Ya quiero que comienseee
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