Airbus A320 Dual Hydraulic Failure - Type Rating - BAA Training

www.baatraining... This time BAA Training team presents video about dual hydraulic failure in Airbus A320. Let’s find out how it went for Martynas and Yufei! To make it more interesting, we challenge you once again! Name all the mistakes that our team made, and the one with the closest answer will get our prize! You have two weeks for that! Do not forget - this video is not for training purposes!
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[@davorsusa9351]

These are mistakes that your team made, in my opinion: 1. No chrono started on take off. It is usually set to time the duration of power application, because the TOGA thrust has a strict limit of 5 minutes using it on 2 engine operation, while with single engine operation that limit increases to 10 minutes. 2. No half stick down on take off, until 80 knots and then progressively reduce the deflection to reach neutral at 100 knots; to counteract for the nose-up effect of setting engine take off thrust thus improving aircraft performance. 3. No "Thrust/Power set" callout on take off. If there was a discrepancy of more than 1% of N1 between the engines, it should be entered in the logbook after flight. 4. Squawking 7700 on take off, while the failure haven't occur yet. 5. 2:43 UTC time on SD not synchronized with the cockpit clock thus showing amber XX. 6. Violeting Airbus third operational golden rule: "One head up at all times"!! 7. Clear SD (System display, Lower ECAM), throught the whole flight no one cleared it. On 3:07 we can see an overflow sybmol which indicates there are more messages to be read, but because no one cleared it that messages weren't displayed to the flight crew until very the last end. 8. No minimums entered. 9. 7:00 Landing gear gravity extension wasn't done correctly. You should first pull and turn the handcrank 3 times clockvise and then select the gear down, but not vice versa! There is a big difference and I am surprised that nobody noticed it. 10. On touchdown no "Spoilers up" call. Spoilers number 3 on each wing were fully operational, and armed upon landing. 11. Now here gets interesting: Why haven't you followed the APPR PROC on SD? If hydraulic system is lost by RSVR LO AIR PR the related pump(on approach) should be selected on and PTU to AUTO position. In most cases the hydraulic is RECOVERABLE. Just think how many INOP systems you would recover! That's like, when engine fails(no damage or fire), you say: "No I don't won't to restart it". Ughhh.. 12. I noticed that you have first extended the gear and then stabilized on VAPP, which is unfortunately wrong. FCOM 3.02.29 P11, Extending the gear after you have stabilized at VAPP enables the aircraft to be trimmed for the approach, unfortunately, this wasn't done correctly. 13. Landing distance procedure was never applied. It calls to multiply your LDG DIST for 2.3 times due to the increased approach speed, loss of antiskid and reversers 1+2 and partial loss of ground spoilers. 14. 1:50 PF never reads ECAM procedures! PNF is responsible for ECAM/checklist reading and executing various commands on PF request. This isn't the only time PF does that. 15. No consulting with QRH or any kind of manual! Many of this mistakes could then be avoided. 16. No cabin crew or ATC notifying about the failure(these are actually 2 mistakes..) 17. No "Brace for impact order" for passengers, in this kind of emergency it's neccesery to do that(grave danger of overshotting or skidding of the runway-since you don't have nosewheel steering). 18. No passengers informing about the emergency on board. 19. No takeoff/approach/landing checklist. 20. Violeting Airbus second operational golden rule: "Fly, navigate, communicate - in that order"!! 21. 7:10 Clear E/WD(direct law warning), consequence: no LDG MEMO. 22. And in my opinion one of the biggest mistakes is that you have never consider to put the aircraft in a hold. It would give you more time to set the things up for landing, and also to be more prepared and know what to expect. The approach briefing was never done(it is a crucial to do it when in an emergency), crew never discussed what will happen and how will the A/C behave on touchdown, what in a case of go-around which ultimately resulted that the crew wasn't aware of the failing systems: 5:01 . Autobrake was clearly INOP. 23. ECAM Actions were never said, you just started to read from ECAM, and what's worse PF started to read ECAM not PNF. -I just have a one question for you: What have you done with ENG1 before takeoff since it has almost 15 times more fuel used than the right engine?! --1:10-- (ENG 1- 3600kg, ENG 2- 250kg)Have you kept him on MCT for 1h and then started the right one? I bet that someone will copy mine!

[@ivanmedved9555]

+Davor Susa well explained

[@marijalucic1063]

Amazing.

[@rinodobranic1580]

I agree with every word in this comment

[@drazenorsulic2832]

+Really well explained, I agree with everything said.

[@dariojuric5630]

+Davor Susa PERFECT!!!

[@milo4008]

The greatest mistake you made was not having Pranas as the PF.

[@AlonsoRules]

APU not turned on Not informing ATC No checklists from either pilot Really bad crew resource management - both are focussed on the problem and nobody is flying!! No informing passengers No fuel dumping (probably due to time) resulting in being well over maximum landing weight Emergency lights not turned on Not checking for traffic when making unannounced turns Possible runway incursion if its a busy airport Not leaving the runway as fast as possible

[@josh3771]

Agree with most of your stuff -No fuel dump capability's on the single aisle A318/20/21 family, max landing weight is approximately max takeoff weight. -Leaving the runway without nose wheel steering would be challenging, and dangerous. -Your spot on with poor resource management, the pilots knew the procedures well however it appeared they lacked discipline, confidence and authority in this clip.

[@AlonsoRules]

I also realised, the APU isn't really needed unless an engine were to go out

[@JulianVongehr]

+Anthony Kernich Sorry but they couldnt leave the runway, they have no steering

[@Juan2513-s8z]

1- no seatbelts used 2- no chrono for take off with TOGA 3- when gear up, nose gear lights must be turned to OFF 4- no oredered Ecam Actions 5- At status: check C/B, check OEB, After T/O climb checklist 6- Land asap red : it's a MAY DAY 7- lack of preparation of the approach (no MCDU neither QRH in flight performance part) 8- no approach briefing (asking for MED Auto/BRK after reading it as inop) 9- no approach chart to check the descent and the final approach profile 10- no minimums (MDA) insertion 11- since Auto/Thrust is Auto, you must manage speed on the final segment of the approach to allow the Ground speed mini function to work in case of needed *by the way, good touchdown! you'll improve with time ;)

[@aidanmccoy8520]

Failed to do norm checklists and QRH No Mayday call and coordination with ATC Failed to give PA and NITS brief

[@markhuijser7057]

-rotate to soon (just after V1) -no refering to QRH -both pilots focust on the problem (1 should fly the plane the other one should try to solve the problem) -no approach brief or communication for futher plans after the start of the problems -he calls for autobrake medium but is inop - no informing of the cabin crew at one moment or so -no informing atc of some kind -no landing checklist -PM doesnt engage the spoilers after landing

[@nicolasgonzalez2959]

Also the seatbelts

[@Mateyhv1]

Hey they were not doimg a real drill, just showing what happens

[@Balticaa]

Congratulations to the winner +Davor Susa !

[@davorsusa9351]

+BAA Training Have you received the e-mail?

[@Balticaa]

Yes we did and we have already sent you a gift via DHL!

[@samuelali4089]

+Davor Susa im a fan of urs

[@davorsusa9351]

+sam aseem Glad to have fans! ;)

[@samuelali4089]

+Davor Susa the pleasure is all mine. Ur so intelligent amd keen and experienced as it seems. I am samuel frm india and planning for aviation. Glad to meet u man

[@shahaangujral6757]

btw these are not all the mistakes the main mistake of the crew was that always during a flight 1 pilot should control the flight and the communication while the other should perform the ECAM checklist and in this case these rules were not followed 2)the LOC and G/S cannot be captured if the autopilot is not operational 3)no chronometer was set during the takeoff roll 4)pressed autobreak button when its INOP

[@a320_pilot6]

a lot of mistakes here. But the greatest one: no failures announcement. The pilot flying should just focus on flying the aircraft, saying : " I have control and communications, ECAM actions !" Then pilot monitoring does ECAM actions. In the video the pilot flying was reading the ECAM items, and watching the colleague doing things, instead of flying !

[@SmarticleCo]

can you do a video of them trying to land with no hydraulics and just using the engines?

[@maxmanley2586]

- No Seatbelts - No headsets - No communication with ATC - No takeoff checklist - Rotated too soon ( before PNF announced rotate) - No V2 announced - PNF did not announce engines stable - PF did not say flaps 1 - No after takeoff checklist - Should have turned on autopilot before beginning systems check - Did not tell ATC having problems - Should have announced a mayday when autopilot stopped working - PNF should have been conducting all systems checks, not the PF - No communication with passengers alerting them of the situation and reasons why - No communication with ATC explaining situation, announcing mayday or requesting emergency landing and/ or emergency services. - Did not clear problems list, so if new problems appear, may go unnoticed - No approach checklist - No landing checklist

[@davorsusa9351]

+Max Manley Fuel dumping isn't possible on A320.

[@maxmanley2586]

+Davor Susa thanks for telling me. Ill change it....

[@satvirsolan847]

The ECAM procedure was not followed as per Airbus SOP. The ECAM was not stopped to check for normal checklist, any computer reset, QRH procedure. The status was not read. The Flap setting was not as per SOP, the speed needs to be checked first the the flap is to be set and setting to be called after seeing the SD page. The normal checklist were not done. Both the pilots were looking inside. PF was also entering data in MCDU. PM should have been doing all the MCDU entries, ECAM actions.

[@nitsascar1985]

No use of any check list :(. No ECAM procedure applied. Poor CRM PF flies the plain while PNF makes the check list ECAM ATC etc. No check back by the other crew member. But nice video.

[@Dennree99]

+nitsascar1985 No FORDEC as well.

[@Mateyhv1]

Video sais DO NOT USE for training purposes. They were just having sim fun

[@masterblaster175]

Okay lets start : - No seat belts - No stabilized thrust callout? - Inappropriate comment from F/O - No RWY HDG in Autopilot - No "ECAM-Actions" - No QRH/Checklist usage - No communication with ATC/Passengers - F/O and Pilot not aware of all failing systems (autobreak / flaps) - No briefing for landing - In Parts : No Affirmmation/Confirmation for given Commands to F/O (i.e. Parking Brake) In addition : Both were focussed on the problem and they forgot that they need to fly the airplane itself But hey, they landed the plane successfully

[@jamesm432100]

Does the Airbus autopilot automatically disconnect when the stick is moved or does the pilot have to push the red button to manually disconnect the AP?

[@davorsusa9351]

+James m It automatically disconnects if sidestick is pushed beyond certain threshold. However it is always preferable to disconnect it via that red takeover pushbutton on the sidestick.

[@Koploper77]

No atc No seatbelt signs Not leaving the runway quickly Not following checklists Not saying who is in controll No use of apu/atr Not informing passengers

[@Koploper77]

Btw im only 12

[@TitaniusAnglesmith]

+Daniel Dankers seatbelts were already on, cp was in control from the start. I think the point is to do it without checklists

[@TitaniusAnglesmith]

Also they couldn't leave the runway due to nosegear steering failure

[@Koploper77]

00PiggyCosmonaut Oh, ok, thanks.

[@timothy.niklas]

Alternate Law is the best to fly😂👌

[@Mateyhv1]

Direct law is even better

[@derrick1707]

Maybe try and let only PM do ECAM actions. PF evaluates and confirms.

[@azizullah4342]

If there's no hydraulics....we have to reduce engine 1 and increase engine 2...we also have to do something else on the flaps

[@Mateyhv1]

You shouldnt

[@jchang133]

Biggest thing I noticed is no one is saying who's in control. Whoever flys needs to say "I have control" and also turn on the APU.. That thing can provide a lot of the power that is missig

[@TitaniusAnglesmith]

It is hydraulics, not power

[@jchang133]

whoops. my bad

[@wasner31997]

Manual flight all time?

[@youngypaul]

PM should be reading STATUS

[@captainalpha4853]

can the LOC be capture even if the autopilot is off ?

[@raffaelemoretuzzo2983]

The biggest mistake was not to have Pranas as PF ... The night seat could be empty ad well ...

[@Hawx360magic]

no atc,no checklists, and should have said 'speedcheck' before changing the flaps

[@concorde9433]

+Hawx360magic They did say speed check before changing the position of the flaps

[@Hawx360magic]

they should have said 'speed check, flaps 1' instead of 'flaps 1, speedcheck'

[@deborshikashyap6745]

did not extend the speed brake while reducing the speed to 150 from 190

[@Dennree99]

No proper ECAM actions, who had control/communications? No checklists, No FORDEC applied. No ATC communication.

[@Mateyhv1]

What ATC, there was no ATC throughout all the flight and you want them to call some inexistent ATC... Hilarious comments

[@simplefact4u]

how can you provide training when your videos lack some principle elements in Emergency procedures? is it like bunch of kids sitting in a Sim pretending to know stuff

[@Balticaa]

+B NA As you can notice at the beginning, here is our Project development manager and PPL student and these videos should not be used for training purposes.

[@chiccoka]

They wanna know how many mistakes u recognize. It’s a quiz . You didn’t get it

[@AbcDef-ob9fo]

It's just playtime obviously. There is no instructor and it's not a training slot. The guy in the right seat is not even in training on the A320. Lighten up with the OCD Jesus! They are just playing.

[@Worstplayer]

Should the pilot even be futzing around with MFDs when autopilot doesn't work? Isn't that what the FO is there for?

[@yuanheli307]

+Worstplayer It changes the FD mark on the pilot flying instrument, maybe he likes it?

[@Worstplayer]

+Yuanhe Li No i mean with displays in general. Both guys had their noses buried in ECAM and nobody was flying the plane. Made even worse by them being in alternate control law (ie all A320's fancy fly-by-wire assists turned off).

[@sarthtidke55]

You always do speed check first Before saying or doing flap setting

[@Mateyhv1]

How exactly is that done?

[@maxmanley2586]

so... when is the winner gonna be announced?

[@Balticaa]

+Max Manley We will announce the winner soon!

[@chiccoka]

So what about rat. I know it’s on blue system , but does it dropped

[@Mateyhv1]

No, RAT is not a toy

[@willhow2654]

Yes, I know this is an old video. But... Apparently, many of the armchair commentators have hearing problems and missed the whole announcement at the beginning where they state very clearly that they will be deliberately making a "lot of mistakes"..

[@tvflight7858]

make tutorial about computer failure

[@Mateyhv1]

But not as bad as this one

[@hyperbaker87]

you didnt turn on RAT or APU for blue hydraulics system

[@Mateyhv1]

RAT is for electric loss not for G Y HYD failure

[@joaoantonio-rf6tq]

Esse japa tá mais perdido q o batman

[@firstcapt75]

APU not started or RAT not extended depending on FOB Speedbrakes not extended Autobrakes commanded when no available

[@TitaniusAnglesmith]

RAT deploys automaticaly when an anomoly occures

[@davorsusa9351]

+00PiggyCosmonaut Not any anomaly, it extends if AC BUS 1+2 are lost and the aircraft speed is greater than 100 knots. And since there wasn't any electrical fault RAT should be stowed.

[@ShimonTzidkiahuYossef]

What if blue system had failed also?

[@kpappa]

RIP :) Activate ELEC pump and pray...

[@Mateyhv1]

Opens a magic door to the fourth dimension

[@iliasstaridas8005]

Circus...

[@aviatorjet4943]

acft full faults

[@peteconrad2077]

Absolutely appalling. They got almost nothing right.

[@galileo66]

If you are a Flight simulator gamer is ok. If you are a professional pilot don't follow this video please. Thank you guys. I appreciate your intentions but real life require real training.

[@samuelali4089]

wow i really wanna be like david sousa

[@aviatorjet4943]

pane class 1.. its very bad

[@aymenzayani6822]

this video is made by non proffessional pilot it makes no sens to uplode this kind of video all the procedures are wrong

[@javicasanova9636]

Wow. Very poor all guys. I hope you don’t use this in your academy. Just imagine act like this in the real life... All died. Be serious please

[@Mateyhv1]

They landed, al lived to tell the tale. All that miriad of procedures were innecessary

[@fabioaronica]

Are you kidding is this a Training organization? I wouldn’t even allow you to complete the take off run with you first officer not placing his feet on the rudder pedal. I stop watching at 2:14 because I didn’t see any of ecam disciplines or ecam philosophy applied. This is a very misleading video made by rookies and not professional TRI

[@jessielesbian6791]

Try landing with all 3 hydraulic failure (throttles-only controlled landing)

[@SamFarley098]

APU not turned on Not informing ATC No checklists from either pilot Really bad crew resource management - both are focussed on the problem and nobody is flying!! No informing passengers No fuel dumping (probably due to time) resulting in being well over maximum landing weight Emergency lights not turned on Not checking for traffic when making unannounced turns Possible runway incursion if its a busy airport Not leaving the runway as fast as possible

[@JamesScully1]

+sam farley Nice copy and paste there!

[@SamFarley098]

+James Scully I commented first...

[@JamesScully1]

+sam farley Time stamps don't lie As yours was a hour ago and the other was 7 hours ago

[@SamFarley098]

James Scully I POSTED ANOTHER COMMENT BEFORE HE COPIED ME!

[@JamesScully1]

+sam farley heh umad?