Airgun Academy Episode 39 - How to Lubricate Spring Guns

Not sure where, when or why to oil your spring powered airgun? Confused on what type of oil to use on different types of pistons? Tom covers this and may other topics related to keeping your spring gun running at peak performance in this episode of the Airgun Academy.
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[@shawnaeasterly6099]

Iv been oiling the wrong thing... I need to oil inside my scope turrets... Hopefully this will increase accuracy!

[@lampshadesoapmaker678]

LOL

[@RealRickyRoss]

LOLOL

[@anotherangel6841]

L o L

[@charlessamuelpenn9374]

Haha - Careful you'll get lots of questions about scope oiling too. I had to pause - I just knew there'd be some comedians here. Haha it just occured to me. Tom trolled us. Or he had a competition at his school to spot the error.

[@russa4415]

LOL!!!

[@Rdrake1413]

Who ever does your editing doesn't know a breech from a scope. When you said a close up of the breech they showed a close up of a scope.

[@Duagn1984]

I'm glad you pointed that out but after two years on YT why is it still here? I thought I would get something special for noticing it but nadda. PA is a good company to deal with so far... sure hope there's a better video somewhere to help me put the silicone in the right spot. I'm a newbe to the air range but want to take care of my weapons. But thanks for masking my PTSD symptoms :) and being first!!

[@4486xxdawson]

Ok i thought i was the only one who noticed the breech looks alot like a scope lol . Fix your video before you post it is always good . Great video and i know what a breech looks like so not disappointed, just was like wait a minute had to rewind to make sure it wasnt me

[@billware6721]

Rdrake1413 Oops ..

[@androidarkitecht8339]

Kwality kontrll blew it!

[@indunilanandawansa]

Yep

[@meyercamden]

The breech seal close up is a clip of a scope....

[@tsigoloiborcim]

No wonder my gun won't shoot right. My breech looks nothing like that!

[@crude4u1948]

Mine either. and I thought it was just me not know anything.

[@chuckles3079]

I am new air gunner and trying to learn about lubricating my air gun. I oiled my scope(or is it called breach now?) like you showed, and my accuracy has gone down since I cannot see through my scope. Help.

[@lawrencecanney3137]

Breech close up was a scope lol, i recon the editor was on his last day of employment with these guys..

[@Bill23799]

I just received my Crossman 1322 that i ordered from Pyramid Air last week. It was supposed to arrive on tuesday but Fed ex actually delivered to my door on sunday. It was well packed and i am very happy with my purchase. I am 63 years old and i had a Crossman 150 when i was a boy in the 60's and later owned a Sheridan Bluestreak which I loved. I am looking forward to getting back into Airguns. Ammo prices are still high so i don't want to use what i have stockpiled it for shooting at the range. Shooting my airgun will help keep my shooting skills sharp. I am also looking forward to doing some mods. Thank you Pyramid Air

[@jcozad3215]

WOW! At 83, this Vietnam Veteran knows nothing about air guns. I felt like I was in a military training school. This presentation was fantastic. I will definitely seek out more of your classes. Thanks!

[@Phenylacetonated]

Thank you for your service sir. My father was at a place called Khe Sahn

[@davidsettles5706]

What???????

[@steveadora2549]

Thanks a lot, Tom. You are always a lot of help. I love reading your articles. They are educational and entertaining. God bless.

[@mikeruizesparza1514]

Love this session it is extremely helpful and enlightening. Congrats for such a great video

[@dforr2981]

Tom, I have an R9. I'm hitting aspirin at 25m 8 out of 10 shots and was getting 750 fps using H&N Sport Field Target Trophy Power 14.66 gr pellets. The only issue I had was the TWWWWAAAAANNNNNNGGGGG from the spring. This is my first spring air rifle. I watched your video and you said that lubing the main spring, coating it inside and out with grease, would take that away. You didnt say how much grease. You did mention "Black Tar" and explained what that was, and you did say Exposed Gear Grease - no one knows that is - from my local auto parts store to the local Tractor and Farm store. Well I coated it all right. So much that I dropped my velocity down to 425 fps. ( using a Chronograph ) I know, how stupid of me. Well it gave me the opportunity to clean my gun again. Not a bad thing but when I put it back together, I didn't know that there could be / would be burs on the cut-outs - a disclaimer reminding us to remove burs on the cut outs would have been nice. So now I have bought a light grease with molybdenum disulfide. and a new nylon piston seal and yes I will have all the burs gone before I try to put it back into place. Maybe make the videos a bit shorter and be more specific not trying to put in too much in the 8:29. I do appreciate these videos and will continue to look forward to more.

[@chucksmith7399]

I can’t believe this! I have a breeched scope now after oiling! I knew it would solve all my scoping problems!!!

[@osbornephoto1955]

How do you tell which seal your gun has... Leather or synthetic?

[@paulveit3162]

Still don't know what a breech is if I may breach😯 the subject. Please tell me and I'll scope it out.

[@lambrosk3790]

Love the puns. 😂

[@3rniux]

Thanks,after 9 years i finally fully cleaned and lubed my rifle + i stretched spring,added piston mod and it working better than new,cool.

[@greggeis918]

On your bike I’m about to do the same, do you have any info on the piston mod or stretching the spring (how much, are you looking for a certain point?)

[@crummeyyy1]

Great video.The breech seal close up was funky.

[@bigs1368]

one wiered looking breech lol

[@absinth9288]

molly makes everything go better and a lot more fun... at least it feels like it

[@hunter100t]

wow "Black tar" is pretty old school that we have moved away from a long time ago. we fit piston sleeves now that line the inside of the piston so that the spring can move freely inside of it, eliminating spring twang but not affecting consistency or power at the same time. there are videos online from way back on how to install in your airgun. filling your piston and spring with grease or "tar" is definitely not recommended.

[@dirtrider88]

maybe its time for the grandfather to retire and let the grandson take over.

[@TPVPRO]

Very informative, I was scared to put lube in my Diana 460 but like he said the gun told me. I was only seeing 690-700 FPS. I added 3 drops of silicon to the piston chamber let it sit so the lube drained down within 5 shots I got 785-792 fps.

[@SuperCyril2]

Same. You dont need much silicon lube to do its job. I oil mine after every 500 rounds.

[@johnlantz3771]

Your videos are very informative. That said, epic fail on “showing” the breach.🤣

[@Ukelay13]

The close up of the breech was actually a close up of a scope. Good stuff as usual otherwise.

[@mickeyhuggins7850]

Great info in this show and id like to thank you for teaching us about air rifles

[@Boss-zt5vz]

You are great Sir ! Thanks for so much valuable information ☺

[@sonani2060]

So how do I lubricant my air gun? You only talk but dose show me how to lubricant

[@dustinh4175]

Drop the oil into the little hole in the front of the spring tube/receiver thats visible when you break the barrel

[@itsawonderfulknife7031]

@MAD GRUMPYMAN Maybe he’s a beginner and just learning. Nothing wrong with asking questions. As a matter of fact, I’m kind of happy that he is. The more you ask, the more you know. Also, why does your comment end with a question mark?

[@snakethepeg7828]

@MAD GRUMPYMAN you really are a grumpy fucker

[@andreasnovak6981]

@@dustinh4175 Thank you, I had the same question and agree that lots was said about needing to oil the leather seal often but nothing was said about how, exactly, to do that. I would not be happy about having to take the thing apart every time to oil the seal......glad to know it can just be dropped into that little hole.

[@Kholaslittlespot1]

Is there a way I can lubricate my springer a bit without stripping it down? I've heard my rifle can arrive quite dry from the factory. Edit- I'm going to get some strange looks going around asking for Molly and Black tar :/

[@cheffjeffB]

OK, so one editing error. Big deal. I miss shots sometimes, too. While not a "how to" I found this very informative and well done. Clearly presented and explained to help me better understand the general issues involved with lube'ing my springer. My biggest takeaway? I need to do it!

[@albertosara416]

This man right here is a legend

[@MasterKoala777]

First of all, thank you BB Pelletier (Mr. Tom Gaylord) for another great video. I’m checking out “100% pure silicon oil” sold online for use in my break barrel’s compression chamber. Which viscosity level should I choose? There’s 100 cst (centi strokes), 350 cst, 500, 1000 and so on. I know that the lower number means less viscous. But which one is best? And also, Ballistol sells their own silicone oil (Ballistol Silikon Öl). Can this be used as chamber oil?

[@ranhat2]

Clever and insightful. What about the hole atop the spring tube, near the rear? What goes in there?

[@zmanpianoman]

I own a Diana 52. 22 cal. Bought it new when they first came out many years ago. Was it the closet for many years, less than 500 rounds through it. Going to start shooting it again. Is there anything that has to be lubed up that does not require taking it apart. It's in perfect condition but hasn't been fired in many years.

[@christianshannon3943]

I bought a Hatsan 125 vortex QE in .25 cal . What advice can you share about lubricating the vortex piston and what type of seals do they have . I do see a synthetic O-ring to seal the breach . This pellet rifle is powerful and highly accurate. I want to maintain this quality. Fifty pellets have been fired from it so far so I figure it will take a few more rounds to break it in . Thanks !

[@lv0ll9]

amazing channel, looking to get into airguns for hobby, great to get a bunch of info before i go out and get me one!

[@silvermediastudio]

They're so much fun, and great for getting trigger practice without going to the range. A quality airgun is super accurate, too.... which can lead the unsuspecting down an expensive rabbit hole. If you can find one, the Diana 430L is amazing to get into the game, but a Benjamin Trail or Titan is also great. Don't waste your money on anything below $100 unless it's a Daisy Powerline 880, and then get the upgraded front sight, it's a sweet shooter but plastic. Also, don't get roped into the feet-per-second garbage... most guns advertised above 1000fps are doing so with ultra-light alloy pellets that don't stabilize and have terrible accuracy. I don't shoot anything above 800fps, for targets and small game, never needed more.

[@TheMeatballSwede]

A full assembly of a diana 35 model would be very appreciated! I've picked mine apart like a proper bell-end and now i don't know how to compress the spring while trying to line up the pins and bits and bobs that are supposed to go there in the back. Even though i have the schematics for the gun.

[@KFCFishing]

Excellent briefing all the details of air rifle Spring and nitro piston

[@williamcrane8236]

Followed the instructions to my Crossman/Benjamin Prowler instructions and put the drop of oil on that Gas spring seal. I've had it over a year and have shot it infrequently. Bought a better scope for it as I've been practicing with it more recently, thanks to an invasion of Rabbits. But as my original can of pellets is about half empty, and I've been playing with several other types to see which was more accurate I remembered and verified that I was supposed to oil it 250 shots. I also noticed that I had more loose screws on the gun than my motorcycle (hey, my accuaracy went back up!) I tell ya, that first shot though. I'm sure the neighbor thought I was shooting my AR-15 in the front yard, again. The rest were normal and like your Dianna, it always diesels. Found that out early on when I was trying to look down the barrel after shooting, couldn't see anything so I blew in it and Hey, Smoke! So we don't want detonation. I guess I need to go farther between oiling or wait till it starts making noise or loosing power.

[@MasterKoala777]

Thanks for sharing this. I recently bought a Crosman Vantage .22 NP, and was initially set on following the manual, i.e. a drop of silicone chamber oil every 250 shots. But now I’d rather wait for it to honk when cocking before oiling the chamber. Better to avoid detonations, I think.

[@justinwyatt9637]

@@MasterKoala777 where did you find the oil??

[@MasterKoala777]

@@justinwyatt9637 Couldn’t find the Crosman chamber oil anywhere here in the Philippines. I saw in an online shopping platform “100% pure silicone oil” with viscosity of 100 CST (a little less thick than baby oil). That’s what I got, but haven’t tried it yet.

[@justinwyatt9637]

@@MasterKoala777 ok. Thanks.

[@mja9700]

I saw an article one time where this guy was telling break barrel users to apply Vick’s vaporub on the breech after inserting the pellet. It supposedly improves accuracy and velocity of pellet. Have you heard about that theory. He was shooting his break barrel but doesn’t back his result with a chrony. He was just basing his results on how his rifle sounded after he applied the Vick’s. Theoretically it make sense. He also recommended any type of vaseline will work.

[@ralphparis1694]

have allways enjoyed your input.

[@walkerbelle]

Wait a minute! @ 3:48 when you're going to show us the breech, an image of a rifle scope appears and then it goes back to you showing the seals in your hands. What's up with that???

[@Smaug1]

To lube the piston seal without disassembly, we just put a drop through the port? My Stoeger X20 is a terrific honker!

[@ouzococacola159]

In your manual its actually what it says

[@rubykaufman5361]

Oh man i was trying to oil my scope, then i realized it was a editing mistake!

[@petercope3263]

Dont go putting to much oil into your scope , its like looking through a fish tank ha ha .

[@rotaryray]

Dope breach bro...

[@Probablyshouldnthave]

was going to comment on the breach seal but I see all other comments have it covered!

[@BushcraftWoodsDevil]

Would 3-IN-ONE General Purpose Silicone Drip Oil be okay for a chamber lube and for synthetic seals?

[@houston112469]

just got a sig Sauer mcx .177 pellet c02 rifle would like to know the best way to clean and take care off

[@reclusepilgrim]

Do I need to oil or grease the Benjamin Marauder? If yes, what parts and with what?

[@JonJaeden]

I bought a Diana-48 about 25 years ago. Used it a few times and, for various reasons, it got put away and remained unused. I'd like to start using it again. I assume it has the leather piston seal and that it is dried out. Is oiling it before I use it sufficient or do I need to replace it? Am I at risk of damaging the gun? Thanks.

[@fast03vette4me]

Nice job sir, thank you!

[@TheSmileyTek]

Nice scope breach

[@tomdodson6293]

I've caked my scope in oil but the rifle still wont perform, should i moly grease the lenses?

[@glennfiddy6569]

Made me laugh.

[@rushzeen]

Dear Sir. is it okay to use the type of grease that been used for vehicles. because its very hard to find such type made for guns in my country.

[@laaphyama007koofee7]

I learnt a lot so thanks again.

[@Joe_Goofball]

Am new to this and just bought a Gamo Swarm Magnum 3rd gen .22 air rifle. Do you have any videos specific to this model?

[@AmuckPVP]

I have a B1 Chinese air rifle & I'm wondering if I can just replace the leather seal with a rubber seal.

[@wayne2643]

Hi.. I have Diana model 35 in .22 brake barrel air rifle, need to change the main spring and piston seal so which one is the best power produce main spring,? and piston seal ( leather or synthetic ) ?

[@adnitismaili9361]

hello sir, i have Gamo Magnum IGT can i use Ballistol Silicone Spray for lubricating my piston seal? thank you

[@jcorrealuna]

Hi. Do you know if i should have to put Moly or Back Tar in the spring of my Hatsan 99 ?

[@dforr2981]

Julio, did you ever get an answer? Well I can tell you that if you do put lub on it, make sure it is very very sparing as it will really gum up the works and force you to take it all apart and clean it beyond anything that is really good for it.

[@jeffroy36]

What kind of oil or seal do I have in my Diana 350 Magnum 22 caliber RWS

[@bryanmorgan5077]

what kind of piston seals dose a Hatsan 100X, Ruger Blackhawk elite & Crosman Optimus

[@robertstevenson565]

So after all that, where do I put the silicone oil to oil the seals? Is there a hole somewhere?

[@Galvantia]

Just curious, is that Diana 27 rebranded to Hy-Score?

[@simonshift]

So, what about the compression chamber/piston lub? You put moly on it to?

[@dramit1949]

Great video..thanks!!

[@damonwilliamson186]

i have a question.....can too MANY crosman silicone drops in a nitro piston elite compression chamber throw the accuracy off

[@jaakkooksa5374]

Does anyone know if it is possible to use silicone spray, which I understand consists of silicone oil and propellant, instead of silicone chamber oil, provided that you "pump out" the propellant before firing (because it is flammable and could diesel)?

[@nmarbletoe8210]

That would be good to know. Silicone spray is at Big R, but silicone oil I can't find except to order it.

[@taimurchoudhry.]

My Diana 36 is becoming more and more difficult to open. Can you please tell me should I lubricate the metal ball below the breech, it feels the mechanism or spring behind that is the reason I can't seem to open the break barrel. I have to apply a significant amount of force to open it. Also can you please tell me what this part of the air gun is called? I couldnt find anything on KZbin that guides me to lubricate or maintain this metal ball just below the breech. I would be very grateful for some insight.

[@d.haroldangel241]

How can you lubricate the piston seal without disassembly, if there is a way?

[@richardgraham65]

That rifle scope looked like a nice breech! - You need to look at the camera too!

[@richardperry4115]

Is black tar the same as graphite grease?? Have just subscribed.

[@arunkrsarker4501]

I have received your good advice of lubricating at Air Rifle ,

[@JonnyLionMan]

Loving It!!!!

[@marshallwhite2619]

I usually put a drop or 3 of pneumatic tool oil in my Umarex synergis and thats been doing me pretty damn good so far

[@marshallwhite2619]

I know it sure doesn't need it but after every 500 shots I'll put a drop in

[@leonda4817]

i'd love to buy that gun. is it any good? do you have the 22?

[@marshallwhite2619]

@@leonda4817 so the accuracy isn't too great abour an inch at 20 yards, and it's a little loud bit I've killed alot of animals even out to 40 yards with it, it's a reliable and very predictable gun

[@leonda4817]

@@marshallwhite26191 inch is ok at 20 yards. My gamo shoots an inch at 12yd.

[@lon8983]

Well, I see the puff of white smoke from your gun, and you say that is normal. I see brown smoke from my Stoeger X20S2 and smell burning grease. it is new. 400 pellets through it, but still burning, And for the quietest spring airgun in its class, the mechanics sure seem loud. Any advice?

[@mickyashey9818]

When you show THE BREECH, you zoom in on scope windage adjustment screw??

[@robertmailhos8159]

I have two.ruger air pellet rifles one is a .22 caliber the other one is a.177 caliber what do i use on them in the way of oiling them & what part,s do i need oil & what type of oil do i need to use on both of them 🙄🙄??

[@Hidden308]

Thanks from France 👍👍

[@kizunadragon9]

Good ol three in one oil, is there anything it can't lube?

[@ChristosTm300]

When you find time make an educate video about the changing of POI in spring rifles couse the dieseling when happens with different temperatures give us different speeds ! In short ,why high power spring rifles they dont hold their zero in places where the change in temperature from morning to noon is huge ! Also in excessive shooting for more than 50-60 pellets in a row ! Thanks for the video !

[@pipugwesisaac2496]

3:49 “this.. is the breach” ahh k got it 😂

[@noahrichmond3827]

Good video thank you

[@michaelstumpf3646]

What is a great scope mount for the RWS 350 30mm

[@ashischaturvedi5407]

Very helpful sir

[@taunteratwill1787]

This is the breach! I don't care what you say or think, this is the breach!! 😅😅😂

[@Zsigmund]

lol

[@bgbg8857]

I love how this guy has “molly” and “black tar” lmao

[@mikeescalante8362]

I put to much oil in my crosman crusher, How do I remove this oil from the chamber? of course this was before watching the video

[@LowkeyAirgunner]

I feel like Tom or Tyler should do an updated less confusing version of this video 😅

[@bluewater454]

Never knew a scope was called a breech. Might want to do some re-editing of the vid.

[@rawskinbeyer]

Maybe I am a mentalist, but something tells me that someplace through the video on optic scopes, you will definitely see a close-up of a breech seal instead of that of a scope:))

[@99ron30]

If you put a few drops of oil aswell as a light to medium grease on your spring and piston, how long will it take to burn off the oil?.

[@gotallmyvaccinesforallknow4949]

4 months later....whats the verdict?

[@rondoschiavoni8840]

is it worth upgrading a single action spring air pistol into a gas ram

[@markellis3874]

Thanks so much Mr Gaylord

[@kennethhuff7158]

Thanks good info

[@AK-ky3ou]

Nice, thank you

[@user-li2xc2rf6c]

Great to have a Mentor like You. Regards from INDIA🇮🇳

[@DoktrDub]

3:48 my brain melted when it shows the scope and says “this.. is a breech!” Jokes aside, some helpful information here in air rifle seal types

[@SouRJoKerr3]

What airgun is that ? thanks a bunch

[@jozefhorvat3625]

Excellent. Like.

[@donovanphillips8692]

3:48 best info

[@fast03vette4me]

Mr. Gaylord`s instructions clarify what I researched and do already. YES on my SPRING rifle and NO on my GAS rifle, with little exception as noted.

[@daveybalmer]

Can anyone tell me how and where to lubricate an IZH 46M pistol?

[@smokingunclefrank6037]

I didn't see a breach I saw a scope although I alredy know what it looks like as for spring vs piston I prefer piston less maintenance at my age if it's easer I'll take it

[@leonda4817]

My gamo steelspringer felt rough and dry and lost energy and became louder too. After a spray of silicone oil into the compression chamber it's a lot quieter and softer shooting. why?