Airgun Academy Episode 41 - Coil Steel Spring vs Gas Spring

Confused on what power plant to select for your next airgun? Tom goes into the pros and cons of both these tried and true sources of getting ammo down range.
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[@luisp1174]

To the guy that tried to bash Gaylord by calling him"the old guy" and he sold out, you're way out of line. He has provided tons of info to the new shooters for free so his opinions aren't based on the industry they are his opinion and you had your own. How can anyone listen to you when half of your post was about the old guy not the guns. Believe it or not if you're lucky you to will become the old guy. Nice video and thanks for posting is what you should say and then give your opinion and we'll decide.

[@Beesa10]

I agree, Tom is a respected author, collector and air gun enthusiast. He's a walking encyclopedia of air gun information who shares lots of it simply to help other airgun shooters.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

"I was 24 years old, (I raised the age for today's younger generations), and I thought my Dad was the dumbest person on Earth. Now that I am 30, you would be surprised at how much the "old man" learned in 5 years!" (math is intentional). The day you think you "know it all", is the day you have a "lot to learn".

[@Me2Lancer]

I have a Gamo air rifle with a gas spring and haven't noticed any of the negatives described in this video. I like the smooth cocking action. Glad to learn it can stay cocked for an extended amount of time.

[@mppourazizian814]

Which model?

[@Me2Lancer]

@@mppourazizian814 Gamo 1300.

[@R.K.Chowdhury]

This guy is my favourite...

[@gulshansahu2749]

Your my favourite bro

[@Mk-uh4jo]

Love your obvious enthusiasm for airguns and promoting them. Great video as I have just ordered my first break-barrel airgun. Didn't know what the heck I was doing but ordered anyway, your video makes me feel good about my purchase as you didn't say anything bad about either. I ordered a gas piston gun.

[@lilsayg3372]

Great informative video Tom. I'm an old jarhead but a newbie to the world of airguns.You have been my mentor for the first six monts and ten guns from PA. Looking forward to more.

[@rshettle123]

Tom, I once met you at Atlantic Guns in Silver Spring MD. back in 96. You were promoting your book on the Beeman R1. I was there buying my Beeman Crow Magnum in 20 cal. It got sold. Today I sport an HW90 in 20 cal. Theoben gas.

[@MrChris-bx7ss]

*The gas piston does shoot smoother but I have had several gas pistons develop leaks, which never happens with a spring which is why the Spring Gun will NEVER DIE HAHA!!!* *Just add a thin coat of Spring Tar and you're good to go.* *We love ya Gaylord!.*

[@gehtdianschasau8372]

Bad quality is bad quality, no mather what system. They're both well prooven conzepts. When storing a gas piston rifle, you want to do it with the piston part down, and the tube part up (which usually means with the barrel pointing down), to keep the seals oiled. Thats how they are usually installed in hundreds of other applications. Have fun!

[@EarthSurferUSA]

@@gehtdianschasau8372 Now for storage, that sounds like great advise as a light went on in my head. The few drops of oil would flow to the front of the piston, and be where it needs to be to make a good seal when you use it again. Makes sense, until I thought, "The few drops may also flow out of the transfer port, leaving the area dry". So I just came to the conclusion, store it barrel down, (as you say), and when you take it out of storage, (not sure why I would store it anyway--hehe), put 2-3 drops of chamber lube in the port, (storing it barrel up for a day or two), and you are good for the season. (probably).

[@jimmynich4791]

@@EarthSurferUSA I've heard that you should never lube a gas ram, I don't know the reason why but I think the video I saw was the same guy as this video who said never to lube them. Also oil in front of either piston from a gas ram or spring gun I think can't be a good idea because of deiseling and ignitions.

[@DrAgan_tortojed]

High quality gas pistons, like those found in Diana N-TEC models and Crossmans etc. have even longer lifespan expectancy than the steel-springs found in the similar models of the aforementioned producers. And, if you swap the piston (properly) in an steel-springer with the gas, you get, typically, 10, maybe even 15% more kinetic energy with the same pellet.

[@darrencady4261]

Great video, Tom. I still have a copy of your book The R1 Super Magnum Air Rifle. In that book you wrote about various tunes and I remember how impressed you were with the Venom tune kit supplied by Ivan Hancock. Well I'm from the UK and can honestly say that the old Venom tuned air rifles are special and can easily go head-to-head with anything, including a gas spring. Theoben used to make rifles that used a gas spring and I found them a little harsh. Give me a well tuned spring rifle any day!

[@philipbreau1246]

Thank you for the explanation. I'm interested in the sport and researching makes, model, power plants, etc. The more I read, the more I get confused. Your videos will clear things up. Thanks again.

[@fast03vette4me]

My springer Ruger Impact is at 16-17 FPE. My gas piston NP2 is at 21-22 FPE. Two different rifles,,, for me it`s comparing apples to oranges. One thing I do know, I love apples and oranges, they are both good eating. So I`m happy to have both. I think they both meet THERE OWN engineering requirements fairly well IMO.

[@therrienmichael08]

THEIR own

[@domingotavella4327]

The vibrations of coiled springs are unpleasant, but they don't affect accuracy. The reason is those vibrations set in "after" the pellet has left the barrel.

[@Sertao2013]

I think the old guy has a few thing backwards . In the same gun model a gas ram can be over 50 fps slower than the spring and in colder weather the gas ram can be over 60 fps slower and you lose over 2 FPE . Watch this video on a spring vs a gas ram in the same gun model in a cold weather test . Look at the numbers . The spring is the best way to go . What the old man in the video doesn't tell you is that springs can last over 30 years with no lose in fps . The gas ram is like whats on your car hood or hatch back the one that keep falling down and hitting you in the head . And never stays up during the winter months because gas has less compression when its cold . The gas finds its way out of the o-rings that is holding the gas in . If you have a car you have to keep a stick in to keep the hood up you know what I mean . So the gas rams are unproven as far as how long the o-rings are going to hold the gas in . Another thing the old guy forgot to tell you is the cost difference a spring is around 15 dollars and a gas ram like the vortex is around 100 dollars and over 50 dollars for the cheaper nitro piston gas rams you find in the Gamo , Crosman and Benjamin guns that produce even less power . So if you want to be a guinea pig on how long the gas rams will last before you start losing power and you want less power in warmer weather and a lot less in colder weather then get the gas ram . If you want 30 years of constant power , faster fps that gives you more killing power or FPE and low cost when it finely does need replacing then get the spring . I have had my RWS model 45 for over 30 years , same spring and it still shoots the same fps it did when it was new and I shoot every day , Or you want the most power you can get to take down bigger game like turkey or coyotes that need the extra FPE then get the spring . Most gun makers like the Hatsan you see in the video have a built in vibration system that makes it so you can't tell the difference between the two and most people have to ask which one they are shooting gas or spring because you don't feel the recoil like you do in the cheaper guns like the Gama , Crosman and Benjamin that don't have the vibration systems in them . There is a reason the air gun company's that sell air guns want to make it sound like a spring gun is not as good as a gas ram , can you guess why that is ? That's right . They are going to make more money off you because they know the gas ram is going to stop working faster than the spring ,so your going to have to pay for the gas ram if you do it your self or your going to have to buy a new gun from them in the not so distance future . So don't fall for his story about how the springs are slower because that is a lie and its easy to prove with a little comparing of the specs . The piston does the same thing as the gas ram does so all that movement is the same . The gas ram is more sensitive to weather and its harder to cock with less feet per second speed . Some one ask him why the best selling field target gun , the tx 200 that has won more matches and is used by all most all non pcp field target shooters have a spring inside instead of a gas ram . So when he said( its just not a pleasant thing ) don't believe him . Field target shooters have to put a pellet through a 25mm hole at 40 yards and they do it with a spring gun not a gas ram . No field target shooter except for the beginner use a gas ram . because they are just not as accurate . That should tell you something right there which one to get . kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4DSZ4Kda7x8fK8 . It really saddens me to see how money has made him talk this way about the spring ,because I know he knows the spring is the better way to go but pressure from the owners that want more of your money has made him say what he did in the video .

[@antonio39776]

I ve got the HW 90 .. I don't know what you are talking about .. theoben gas ram system is way better than any spring .. It is easy to fix .. i just open all the gun for cleaning and oiling , easy as hell . you can find everything you need to change and is very easy fo you to do it and never loose power .. If you are going for hunting you can cock it and not shoot all day or even 'till christmas if it is summer , nothing is going to happen .. Do that to a spring rifle and we we will see in 30 years you will need 30 services and maybe 40 spring changes..

[@robertdelgado2486]

steve dental your just a damn idiot.

[@Amatronix999]

nah hes right gas piston air rifles dont last as long in general and develop leaks all the time but its good for the industry

[@EarthSurferUSA]

I am not going to rag on you. You have come compelling information IMO. But, with my cheap $120.00 Benjamin Titan .177, (with the right pellet, JSB 10.34gr of course), I am hitting 3 shot groups at 75 yards within .875" diameter from a door jam. If I can use the pellet I want, I would win the field target competition with one of the cheapest gas rams on the market. I also left my hatsan 135 cocked for over 22 hours by mistake, and lost no fps/fpe. I am not sure a spring would not sack some after that. I can also get up to 33.5 fpe, (modified pellet skirt), with my .30 cal vortex gun. I have not seen production spring gun do that yet, (but you may know of one). Thanks for your information. I appreciate it.

[@rick31869]

STEVE DENTAL LETS SAY YOU GOT AN AIR RIFLE THAT SHOOTS 1050 ROUGHLY WITH LEAD FPS ,WHAT N RATING ON GAS SPRING WILL I NEED ?THEY GO FROM 80N TO 150N ! ALSO STEVE I WILL BE GETTING THE REGULAR TYPE SPRINGS BUT IT IS THE ONES WITH THE MAIN SPRING WOUND TO THE RIGHT AND A SMALLER DIAMETER THAT FITS INSIDE THE LARGER ONE BUT REALLY POWERFUL AND WOUND TO THE LEFT SO IT DOESNT GET TANGLE WITH ONE ANOTHER !

[@JohnnyPaAg]

I really love this channel and especially this series. Cheers from Brazil!!!

[@mohitmorris]

Now, that's information!! Wish I'd have found this video before I heard all the big talkers that say basically, nothing.

[@scripulance.1901]

They always bring their 7k pcp and basically try to get you to buy a pcp some us don't got 7k laying to throw into a gun lol

[@journeyofsound9859]

Always liked Tom he was a pioneer in his day with the 80s Airgun Digest a must read and airgun World,

[@ianmangham4570]

I've fired both and will take any, both are fantastic.

[@plumnearly5959]

Thanks for clear concise pertinent information. Terrific information with no extra garbage. One of the best information videos I have ever watched. Keep up the great work!!

[@pezz_pezzer]

Love my tuned 1983 Hw77 Mk2 still to this day as the original owner. Have not shot a gas spring as of yet but perhaps at the Pyramyd Cup in Sept I will get a chance and hopefully a handshake with you Tom.

[@razor62]

Very informative video, never new about gas struts in a pellet rifle. I'm an old guy recently retired and taking up air rifles as a hobby I still learn new things everyday...never say never.

[@ianmangham4570]

You gotta try one, so smooth on cocking and sure do slam forward

[@Just_Enought_To_Be_Fun]

Just bought my Browning X Blade 2, gas piston 5.5 and I am very happy. Shooting mostly without a scope on 25 meters and manage to make some decent groups 5x5 sm from stand up position. A bit of disappointment with this model is the plastic mechanic aiming set. I manage to broke mine and needed to self-prepare. Pellet used: H&N Slug pellet 28 gr, they have kind of cool shape just like a bullet shape and are pretty heavy, 1.62 grams each.

[@RhiceyHarierar]

Thanks brethren you been in the game for many many years Dan thanks for info

[@ms2pranav]

Dear Senior. Awesome clear explanation. Thank you ❤️

[@TheGearhead222]

As much as I appreciate technology evolving, I rank the gas piston right up there with plastic front sights-just another manufacturer's method of increasing the profit margin while cheapening the final product-John in Texas

[@ppaooh]

I agree. Moreover lots of people say that gas springs sometimes give problems. They are sometimes weak

[@1danny2k]

The gas spring will either leak in a week or last a long time. I recently bought a new springer instead of a gas ram. The springer I can get parts easily for 1/20th the cost of the ram piston. Also my air rifle comes both in spring and ram piston so I have option of parts.

[@piotrpajak3708]

That was one of the best explanations ever

[@alemchelth]

The "godfather of airguns" went right along with manufacturer claims on this one. I believe he has figured it out at this point. Gas pistons are for newbies. Metal coil springs are for serious shooters. Gas pistons are for those who think speed is everything. Metal coil springs are for those who know precision is king.

[@sapientemsapientem80]

you dont have to be a serious shooter, it doesent matter, if you can use bouth with no problem, hitting the target perfectly every time...... 😂😂

[@rickrodrigues2219]

Need to correct you there @01:47. The recoil is the "rearward/backward' action of the gun due to instantaneous "stopping" of the piston.

[@トキソフィライト]

Sir, glad to have a Mentor like You... Regards from INDIA🇮🇳

[@kenfan5666]

Hey Tom, Thanks for this great video on the differences between spring coils and gas coils. I have a few older metal spring coil models of Gamo airguns that do not have magnum rated coils. I would like to replace all of the coils with Magnum rated gas springs or spring coils. Where can I purchase these gas springs or spring coils and is there anything else that I should know before attempting to change these mechanisms, like do I need any other tools? Thanks again. Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.

[@rudedawg5087]

Tom thank you for this informative video; I have gained a wealth of knowledge by reading your blogs from PA. This may be off topic but last year I read your blog on the Diana 340 N-Tec and wanted to know if you would give your current assessment of the N-Tec gas spring now that it has been out for a year. I had purchased a Diana 340 N-Tec Premium in 2015 to use around my farm on nuisance pests when they first came into the USA but within the first few shots it developed a really loud grinding noise when cocking that progressively got worse. I am a Diana fan and want an N-Tec gas spring powered rifle for all the advantages of a gas spring you pointed out in your video but am still hesitant, wondering if Diana has worked out the kinks that I experienced and as are reflected from several other owners when they first arrived. Any input you would offer is greatly appreciated. Sincerely, RP, MS USA.

[@echodelta7923]

Great video, clear and well explained. Was hesitating between a spring and a gaz version of a gun, now I know what to chose. Thanks a lot.

[@salimfalih3668]

What do you choose?

[@fookutube501]

My first air gun was a spring load,and it was pretty loud,but awesome!!.Now ,i have just learnt,there is something better...This is just to awesome!.I mean the "gas piston"

[@CraigArndt]

Excellent! Always wondered how those worked and looked.

[@Robert8455]

What do you mean by tune and why would someone what to do that? I'm guessing a replacement coil spring is like less than $10.00 and a replacement strut is basically the price of a new rifle.

[@tyronekim3506]

Robert DeMilo I was thinking the same.

[@docmdb87]

So Springer's are basically a super overpowered nerf blaster.. I love it! 🤣

[@uacl028]

I know my post is old but so am I. Thanks for teaching me something today.

[@nirmalable1]

Nice video sir. With lots of idea.

[@HenauderTitzauf]

Great video, thanks for showing. You finally gave me great information I’ve always thought about. I am already a subscriber and Pyramyd purchaser.

[@YA-ee9zf]

I had my springer cocked for years and it still works

[@barlow2976]

Yes, but not very well.

[@R.K.Chowdhury]

I think gasspring piston is better But I need velocity I need muzzle power & more energy So, it's gasspring or metalspring i don't mind...

[@Aftab-pm5td]

I’m going to buy my first air rifle for target shooting, and I came across the Gamo IGT system. what I want to know is if this system is better the a coiled spring? What I’m looking for is a durable gun with consistent power, in the Gamo website they say the IGT provides consistent power and more accuracy but since I don’t believe what companies say about their products I would like to know what are your opinions.

[@pariskotsaros]

and I've got a gamo igt, but let's find out how long it takes for someone who has been the same with us for many years,the partners are definitely doing the marketing !!!,

[@michaelflaherty2137]

Thanks, informative as ever. Think I will go down the gas spring route.

[@therrienmichael08]

I went gas spring route and man is it hard to cock.

[@abhigyansinha7924]

Sir, your video is very infoative, thank you for this video. I had a question, is IGT and Nitro Piston power plant the same stuff?

[@smokingunclefrank6037]

Now that was very helpful information thank you for clarifying a lot of questions I had

[@Cowmookaze]

Thank you for the info, Tom!

[@neal0071234able]

I wanna see air rifle thats a break barrel 30 caliber or so with beefier setup that incorporates the function of a crowbar/prybar to use leverage/mechanical advantage so a larger spring coil could be compressed ..the idea would be a break barrel springer thats heavy but maybe able to compete with pcp tank guns

[@gordonspringate7500]

Nice simple explanation. Thank you

[@ruizhernandeztrustfi]

I'm a firm believer of the k.i.s.s. system, for me is not a hard choice. The almighty springer is the way to go.

[@daconverse]

ruizhernandeztrust I a lot of people know about k.i.s.s. If you were a firm believer of this then you would've explained what it meant. Keep it simple stupid!

[@EarthSurferUSA]

I don't think a cylinder charged with gas is very complicated. The gas has some different properties than a spring, but that is about it. Neither are much more complicated than a sling shot or a jungle tribe blow gun.

[@barlow2976]

@@daconverse Gas ram is hardly new, or complicated technology is it? KISS? try a catapult!

[@jcozad3215]

Here's our needs: No “slide-blow-back”; both semi + full auto; pistol or rifles=without stock/butt; detachable sights; picatinny for red dot laser; .22 caliber or larger with heavy grain pellets or BBs; for power not speed with easy loading, with no extra magazines and easy “field stripping”. Threaded barrel for real good suppressor is a must! We already have the “Steel Storm” on order. Looks and replicas mean nothing. It’s “hard-core” basics please. No pressure! If you or any of your channel readers can help, that would be great! T.I.A. Do they make a Nitro Piston Air Pistol or Rifle fully automatic? At 83, seven Vietnam Veteran We know NOTHING about air guns. HELP! We can use an empty 3 car garage as an indoor range. Training for inside self-defense between 7 to 21 yards, stationary and moving.

[@bruceallen6016]

Everything we needed to know but were afraid to ask. 😛 Thumb up.

[@darklol701]

excellent information, finally I'll decide which air rifle buy after this

[@billr4283]

I recently tried a gas piston rifle. The muzzle sound was acceptable but the 'piston slap' near my ear was very loud. Other than an expensive PCP ...what do you suggest? Thank you sir!

[@DrAgan_tortojed]

You've made a mistake at 4:08: gas springs are EASIER to cock than the steel springs (of the corresponding effectiveness). For many owners of the extremely powerful brake-barrels this is very important, if not the most important advantage of a gas springers over steels.

[@WaschyNumber1]

What G Force does a Air Springer produce normally with sub12 or in all like fac version, I asked a red dot seller and ther can hold up to 800 G-Force but without knowing how much a air spring rife can produce its not much use. 🤔

[@426superbee4]

Air is less moving parts. There for its better! lmao idk what kind of gas your using? but i use air he hee buggy springs> or air shocks? which is better? AIR SHOCK

[@FelixTran]

Great natural commentary, great job!

[@mirorados7208]

Okay so im planing on buying hatsan 125 sniper but dont know should i get spring or vortex gas piston. I need it for constant power, accuracy and probably for staying cocked for longer periods of time cjse of hunting in field

[@vladyslavaloysius9029]

thank for the great and clear explanation. Great video

[@maadyrokz]

WHICH SPRING SYSTEM IS MORE DURABLE GAS SPRING OR THE STEEL SPRING ?

[@castronly87]

I'm very confused now, thinking to get my 1st gas piston rifle, I e-mailed the PA company asking about Cocking effort from spring vs gas piston and same as this video they said gas piston it takes more effort ti cock it than springer..... but some people say the opposite, and I found a page from AGD, in a part of a article the claim as a Pro for gas pistonb to be easier to cock, so weird that is same company that told me gas piston it's harder to cock it... sorry for too long story, Please Help b4 buying my rifle...

[@abramsirois7777]

This may be kind of a dumb question but do you run out of compressed gas in the gas spring pistons or do i not have to worry about that?

[@Jrhnhemp]

Excellent vid, very informative. Subscribed.

[@krzysztof4054]

Many thanks, for interesting presentation

[@rodcoulter997]

Excellent explanation…..thanks.

[@mohammedfareedthabres8598]

NICE VIDEO 👍WHO iS THE BEST AIRRIFLE SPRING PISTON OR GAS NITRO PISTON

[@BalwinderSingh-pc8qx]

I have a .177 caliber steela 522 made in Czechoslovakia 1897 airgun model 27. I want it's piston n spring .pl suggest

[@maggiebest08]

Completely satisfied.

[@drumtwo4seven]

Which inert gas is (typically) contained withing the gas spring ?

[@gustafromanov7860]

Nice explaining

[@MrSchijtzooi]

Is it possible to change my coil spring in my air rifle for a gas spring?

[@MrSilvervw]

Fantastic content 👌 👏 👍

[@jean-marcschnupp1586]

Why does a spring-piston make a buzzing noise on some air rifles?

[@MrRockstar1968]

Is it possible to increase the power of a gas spring?

[@crummeyyy1]

Great video as always....thanks Mister

[@nseriousget8165]

which one has more longevity, or, which one is more likley to fail on average?

[@pyramydair]

Arguments are still ongoing about it. Coiled springs made from modern materials can last thousands of shots. Gas ram too, although it has a risk of a leak, that coiled spring does not. Your mileage will always vary based on the quality of the product you decide to buy!

[@viridiana256072]

yea right if you leave it cooked it wears out fast once it starts leaking your done, expensive repair, vr just replace an 5 bucks spring,,,

[@EarthSurferUSA]

Why would it be an expensive repair if you can buy the parts, (seals) and replace them yourself, and recharge the gas piston, (if the cylinder has a port)? If it is rebuild-able, you might be able to fix it cheaper than buying a spring, (and the seals you would also replace). I left my hatsan 135 vortex piston cocked for over 22 hours by accident, and lost no fps/fpe. For hunting, I would rather have the gun cocked and loaded. Sure, you can get a leak, but you probably won't. But that spring will sac out if cocked for hours a day. Well engineered and good components used (like good seals) with good manufacturing, I think both are pretty comparable really with performance and longevity, if used as intended.

[@eddiebrinson5164]

Which pellet is compatible for my powerline 1101sairgun

[@juliusmorgan2292]

THX for clearing some things up

[@shahbazshareef3892]

Appreciate your knowledge sir

[@mildyproductive9726]

Cheapest gas ram: thunk Springer: doink!!! Expensive/Tuned springer: thunk

[@rickhalverson2014]

Time will tell if the gas-spring is truly more reliable as they all are claiming. I call bullshit. Steel springs are still going strong after 50+ years of use. I am all for utilizing the gas technology too, but more reliable? Not sold on that.

[@jimmynich4791]

Rick Halverson You can get some good gas rams but I don't think there's many. People have told me their old Theoben's have cracked stocks and the scope won't stay zero'd because of the gas ram. A mate at work has a Hatsan with a gas ram and he says it's brilliant but his gun is fairly new and not had a lot of use. I'd take a tuned spring gun any day.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

I am not sold on a spring lasting 50 plus years of use, if you use it. Springs don't go flat, and gas does not break. I think both of them, if engineered well, are pretty comparable with power and longevity if used properly.

[@peteralexben]

@@EarthSurferUSA if you store a steel springer for lets say 20 years ,and its protected against rust ,it wil hold its power ,.a gas spring wil leak the gas out after that time ,because gasmolecules wil go tru the seal .same as care tyres lose there pressure, and thats not a problem if you can pump the pressure in . like hatsan ram`s and a hw 90

[@uacl028]

@@jimmynich4791I'm pretty sure that 50 yrs. from now I won't care what happened to my F4's piston, lol

[@jimmynich4791]

@@uacl028 Yeah but I never mentioned anything about 50 years or any other time frame. To be fair there's spring guns over 100 years old that still operate well, gas rams haven't been around anything like that long so it's pretty much impossible to say they're more reliable.

[@georgemauropoulos2461]

what about gas spring maintenance does they need some lubrication or cleaning or anything else?

[@paulalan3351]

PvP air rifles a waste of money.. One Word CORROSION

[@Relaxbadkneeadventures]

Shows up in 2024 but still a great video 😉👍🇳🇱

[@dr.atifmushtaqphysiotherap9330]

How can i check that my .22 cal. Break barrel airgun spring fps and how can i set no. of coils of spring i need in my springer air rifle ?

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

This info is golden! :D

[@rick31869]

WHAT N RATING IS NEEDED TO PROPEL A PELLET AT A 1000 FPS ? ex. 100N,120N, OR 150N ?

[@hkamel9773]

Thanks a lot I think piston is the best

[@gbalias361]

Very good info, very good presentation --

[@aegeanorganicslemnos8311]

Thank you Sir.

[@dindinatlau1496]

what is the best and powerfull aigun spring .22 in the would .

[@peteralexben]

gamo, hatsan are the most powerfull ,but not the best , the best are airarms weihrauch ,diana

[@silentlatif]

Thank you Sir!

[@chentequilichini7182]

great tom.! you are a master!!

[@dailylifestruggle7425]

Gas spring is replaceable or it can be use permanently??

[@scotwick]

Is there a spring in a gas spring? Why is there a spring on his right side next to the gas cylinder?

[@CadillacDriver]

No.

[@freddyfreddy4120]

Thank you very much.

[@Dr._Spamy]

I always wondered how gas springs could stay tight over such a long periode of time. Are they sealed simply with o-rings ? How long do the seals last usually ? How much are gas springs precharged (how much pressure in the extended state)? If there was a valve it should be pretty easy to tune the power of a gas spring. BTW - are they filled with air or something else ? Something less reactive than O² would possible suit the needs better (nitrogen ?).

[@trevorjameson3213]

The gas spring is filled with nitrogen. Not sure how much pressure. If they have a valve they are easy to tune, but most have no valve. In my opinion the gas spring has more advantages. They shoot really nice: sharp reward recoil only, no bounce back or vibration and no twang noise. Easier to shoot accurately. I really like them.

[@CadillacDriver]

@@trevorjameson3213 some, like Hatsan, are just air.

[@joekelly9369]

vs shortened piston , more air volume using less mainspring .

[@humayunkhan3800]

Spring airgun is accurate than gas ram airgun ?

[@xed1329]

So I can't change my gas spring if my air gun is loosing its power?

[@FrenchViking466]

Yes, probably not.

[@KJ-ek2ze]

Does the gas spring require gas refills? What type of gas?

[@PainterDans]

No, its like the gas shock on the back hatch of your car that holds the hatch open

[@KJ-ek2ze]

@@PainterDans does it work like a multiple pump bb gun?

[@PainterDans]

@@KJ-ek2ze single shot

[@noraarchibald1910]

Great info thanks