Airline Flight Planning in X Plane 11

[@deutsche9025]

Im watching the 11 videos of fligh school very useful!

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Vrflyer-Xplane11 thanks! Glad you are finding them helpful.

[@ronloveflying]

Thanks Flight Brothers FB. The info I was looking for.

[@edwardwright5464]

Are you able to find the airac number for the G1000, say, in the Hot Start TBM 900

[@FlightBrothersFT]

We don’t have the hot start, but the AIRACs are stored in a few common folders in the XPlane drive. I don’t have it in front of me, but I could look if you really want to know. Some aircraft may store it in their individual folders as well.

[@ronloveflying]

Thanks Flightbrothers FT, I appreciate that if you get hold of me because I am in too it very much now and I really want to learn as much as i could.Thanks

[@FlightBrothersFT]

There’s an Airbus MCDU video link posted in your other comment thread. It’s done by one of our FSElite colleagues, Ronnie. Hopefully that will help you.

[@ronloveflying]

Thank you very much.

[@FlightBrothersFT]

You are welcome!

[@mikejw58]

Here is a summery of my life history trying to learn how to be a flight simmer. I followed this tutorial step-by-step when I got to clicking on the ETE, not one of the 20 flights had an ETE, only a departure time, no arrival time. So once again (my life story with flight sims) I hit a road block and give up. Its not like I have a lot of time to spend on this. Even 1/2 hr is a lot to take from my schedule so it looks like I'm not going to ever be successful being a flight simmer. What I will say about flight simulators is they have stimulated in me a love of aviation that has led to me getting my real world PPL. Thankfully I found that it is MUCH easier to learn to fly a real plane than it is to fly with a sim, the only down side is expense, and that's what keeps me coming back to sims, only to get discouraged again and quit. Too bad there are not schools with instructors, just like in the real world, to sit next to you and teach you how to sim. I would sign up in a minute. I even tried Vatsim but, while I appreciate their dedication to help people learn, it just turned out to be too hard to schedule, too time consuming, and too frustrating since the instructor is not sitting next to you and seeing what you're seeing. Oh well, I think my next step will to buy a super gaming computer, MS FS 2020 and yank and bank with the nice scenery and weather. I would love to use a sim to help me get my instrument rating, but I doubt that will ever happen. But thank you for posting these videos!

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Don’t give up if it’s something you truly enjoy. Do you have an aircraft profile loaded? This was not easy for us at first either, and remember, if you’re on Simbrief, you’re flying heavy metal. PPL’s don’t fly Boeing and Airbus’. Flight has always been a challenge, after all, we’ve only been doing it for about 120 years! ✈️ And you can use this on MFS also! We make videos on that too!

[@FlightBrothersFT]

I can definitely relate to your experience. Fortunately I had Flightbro Lee to help me through those roughest parts, and I read some great books. It's kind of like learning 10 skill sets at the same time, and it's often frustrating. We hope you check out more of our tutorials. If our commenters can be believed, our tutorials are some of the clearest and easiest to follow. Happy flying! -Flightbro Tim

[@mikejw58]

@@FlightBrothersFT I would agree with your commenters, your tutorials are very clear and easy to follow. It seems that one big problem with KZbin tutorials is many of them are out dated. I've learned to try to look for the most recent ones, but even with some of them, there has been updates that have changed things. So when I finally find some time to sit down and get to work on learning, I spend a hour or so only to reach a dead end. Very frustrating. So now, the minute I come across a discrepancy in the tutorial and what I'm seeing, I quit in frustration. Its not your content by no means. Its me.

[@AllenPortman]

I am not sure what and which points or areas in fly simming that is making the experience so frustrating and difficulty? I did my PPL training decades ago and actually stopped flying for decades, which I only started flight simming (XP 11 and 12) roughly 8 months ago. Yes there has been some formatting and setup challenges-issues along the way but all were eveentually overcome through research watching YT, reading forums. But as far as flying both visual and utilizing instruments it has been relatively easy to learn, figure-out, navigate and manage the flight simming experience. It sounds like maybe your are trying to do too much without first conquering each step before progressive to the step. I did experience some frustration getting xpilot and vatsim going since I am a mac user, but after reading tons of blogs and forums it all finally came together and it works great. I am not an instrument rated pilot but I can setup an instrument flight to some far away airport with departure (SIDS) and approaches (STARS and it functions seamlessly -- in most situations. Try going back to ensure all components are setup correctly and take baby steps (not personal) conquering each step before moving to the next for instrument flight. Congratulations receiving your PPL! If you want scenery ultra pretty aesthetics and play a flight game then yes go with MSFS. But if you are serious at flying and want to experience more realistic hardcore flying then go with XP 11 or XP 12! I love both!!! Good luck!

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Great read and thanks for relating to challenges experienced by new and old simmers and pilots of different experiences! A nice way to enhance your XPlane experience is using Ortho scenery, or using some of Orbx scenery products for either sim platform. I’m not sure Orbx has released anything yet for XP12, but I’m sure it’ll happen. Cheers and happy simming!

[@ronloveflying]

Can you send me the link on How to program the Mcdu pls? Would it be also good for a32nx in fs2020?

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Trying to get a hold of one of our FSElite guys, I think he had a video which helped us review the A300 from iniBuilds. We’ll get back to you! We haven’t flown the Airbus in MFS yet, but Lee has the FFA320, however not many flights with it.

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Ronnie did well with this! If you have questions, comment in the video or hit us back up. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqGYq42BjL2Hrq8

[@ronloveflying]

Hi Germanydabest, how can i watch the 11 very useful videos of fligh school ? Thanks in advance

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Hello. Here is a link the the playlist labeled Flight School. kzbin.info/aero/PL2NYDADsc-qMdTRuFKonK5-2GEaJrPn2a

[@33Jasphere]

thank you very much you guys rock!!!

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@peterlauridsen8403]

Looks nice, unfortunately I can't find the route informations like SID, STARS and waypoints/VORs

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Have you tried SimBrief? It will generate all the route information for you.

[@peterlauridsen8403]

@@FlightBrothersFT Oh that's where it wen't wront thanks

[@peterlauridsen8403]

​@@FlightBrothersFT Can you still fly the zibo mod with flight plans from simbrief if the FMC says: "Nav data out of date"? Or is Navigraph subscription required?

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Short answer, maybe. Each AIRAC nav cycle (monthly) includes changes. That said, quite a few things remain the same. I would suggest using SimBrief to get a basic route, try putting it into your FMC, and then see how many waypoints work. Sometimes everything will still be valid or perhaps only a waypoint or two are unusable. In that case, see if you have enough to remaining waypoints to still complete the flight. VORs almost never change so they are a pretty safe replacement for GPS points also.

[@peterlauridsen8403]

@@FlightBrothersFT Thanks man, everything works fine except the terrain rader on the secondary flight display. Do you have any idea why? Do you have to download that extra?

[@anthonyvallillo422]

Great video! Very good presentation on how to flight plan. Just an FYI - ICAO is pronounced eye-kay oh, in the trade.

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Thanks for the compliment and correction! That will be a hard habit to break.

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Are you an author on AirFacts by any chance?

[@anthonyvallillo422]

@@FlightBrothersFT Yes.

[@anthonyvallillo422]

And also on Flightsim.com

[@FlightBrothersFT]

@@anthonyvallillo422 I have 9 of the Sporty’s Richard Collins Air Facts DVDs. Those are related right? Thanks for the feedback, Tim does a really good job presenting and to have someone with your credentials on our little Avgeek channel is humbling. - Lee

[@shreyshah50]

nice video. How do I enter jetways and should I enter all the waypoints in the jetways or just the jetway. And also in this video ,PIGGN2 is the SID so should I just enter the SID in the departure or I have to include all the waypoints on the SID(FNCHH,TBERD etc). Thanks

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Check out our default FMC video. It goes through all the steps you are asking about and will explain it better than I can through text. Let me know if you have questions after that.

[@shreyshah50]

@@FlightBrothersFT I already did watch the video but there were no jetways/airways in that example. And also if you can show the actual sim brief flight log,it would be better.

[@FlightBrothersFT]

If you enter an airway all points along it should populate until the waypoint you “tell it” to go to another one. The same applies with a SID or STAR. You should only have to supply the transition to or from the SID/STAR

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Tim also goes over the Simbrief in detail in this video, if you have further questions, please feel free to leave them here and one of us will try to answer when we are able. Thanks for watching!

[@shreyshah50]

@@FlightBrothersFT thanks a lot. It was really helpful

[@USSBandit]

I'm staying back from skyvector. Goodness they are to strict and if something goes wrong? I could get into trouble, I'm avoiding it. I'm looking into Virtual Flight Plan not something realistic.

[@FlightBrothersFT]

I wouldn't be afraid of using it. Just don't hit the file button. Provided your projected ground speed is accurate SV will generate a nice flightplan and estimated times, a wonderful tool. Combined with Navigraph, it makes a powerful combination for any sim pilot!

[@denisgoodman4492]

@@FlightBrothersFT What is wrong with "File" button? You mean that the file will not contain correct data to load in FMS?

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Negative,sir. The 'File' button on skyvector.com is used to file an actual flight plan in the real world with the FAA. It does not, repeat *does not* have any use for the sim. You can however use the NAV LOG button to have a point by point printable plan made from the waypoints you entered.

[@denisgoodman4492]

@@FlightBrothersFT You mean "File flight plan" and what is wrong with file flight plan to FAA through SV? And more useful the button "Export Flight Plan", by that you can receive file for loading in different NAVprogram, including AvisSim

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Filing your sim plan as real is illegal.

[@shalashaska5478]

Thanks for all your tutorials, they’re extremely helpful. Question about sim brief though: while doing flight plans for a couple short flights, I will sometimes only get a single waypoint without a SID or STAR. How do you proceed when this happens? I’ll try to pick SIDS and STARs in the FMC when I’m in X-Plane but I always end up with issues and discontinuities.

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Not all airports will have a SID/STAR. In that case you would most likely depart runway heading, then direct the waypoint, and pick up the published procedure. Thanks for the feedback, we really appreciate hearing how this videos are viewed by the community!

[@shalashaska5478]

@@FlightBrothersFT Thanks for the quick reply. So in a case like that, should I just select the departure and arrival runways in the FMC and then not select a SID and STAR? It seems that the airports themselves have a SID and STAR, I’m just not getting one from Simbrief when I try to create a flight plan.

[@FlightBrothersFT]

@@shalashaska5478 if it’s a very short flight you can do that. I believe KPHX to KLAS actually has a SID and a STAR that connect at the same transition, so, functionally, there are no “waypoints”

[@AllenPortman]

Go back through your FP and delete discontinuities in your FP.

[@mikejw58]

I died when you came to AIRAC. I cant do this. All I would like do is learn to set up a flight with a SID, ROUTE, STAR, with an approach to a Cat 3 runway. Then watch the flight from different views. I'm not trying to become an airline pilot. I guess thats why I'll never be a flight simmer. You guys want to make this as real as possible. Your videos are fantastic for someone that wants to make this as real as it can be. Its just not me. Oh well, I think its time to look for a new hobby.

[@FlightBrothersFT]

You can still fly smaller aircraft to build your base. Grab a Cessna or Cirrus Jet, fill the tanks and go. This video is covering tasks that a real world pilot would have to have a PPL, Instrument, Commercial and possibly and ATPL. We hope you don’t give up, but maybe take a step back, evaluate what you are comfortable with and enjoy it for a while, then add one thing you didn’t know, then another etc! Cheers mate, baby steps.

[@MrMrToYouThough]

Why doesn't the route show up when I click on a flight?

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Can you tell us more about the issue? Are you looking at flights on flightaware?

[@Unwired9374]

Thanks for the great video! How about a video on selecting SIDS and STARS?

[@FlightBrothersFT]

That is an interesting topic, but we don't often choose one ourselves. The simbrief will assign you a SID and STAR appropriate to the briefed runway. If we get a runway change, I just look through the charts for one that connects the first/last waypoint of my route to the new runway. Do you have any other questions about selecting SIDs and STARs?

[@Unwired9374]

Flight Brothers FT Prior to trying SimBrief, I had a Navigraph sub. I’d always have trouble with route planning, especially selecting SID and STARS. I could never get everything to connect properly. SimBrief seems much easier, but I’d still like to know how to piece it all together myself. Thanks again for the quality videos.

[@mikejw58]

Sorry for all my ranting

[@FlightBrothersFT]

No worries, if we can get one more sim pilot the community grows. You aren’t learning Super Mario Bros on the NES here. There is a learning curve that is steep as you make it 😃

[@mikejw58]

Do you realize you sound like a flight attendant? Are you doing that on purpose?

[@FlightBrothersFT]

Thanks Mike 😁 No, I did not mean for that to happen, but it is funny now that I think about it.

[@mikejw58]

@@FlightBrothersFT Not saying its bad or anything, but its funny that its in the style of a flight attendant. Effective lol

[@FlightBrothersFT]

It actually cracks me up now that you've mentioned it, and even my wife agrees. I guess my 'presenting' voice just mimics the typical cabin crew, and the old mic I used on that video sounds like the crackly cabin intercom.

[@Ramsa_05]

talk too much

[@FlightBrothersFT]

That's what my wife says.