Ajātivāda: No Birth, No Change, No Death

[@corinbryant]

The synchronicity of this is SPOOKY - I was doing my usual meditation but then realised that I was just being an ego that was meditating, then realised I was watching the ego meditating, then realised if I can watch the ego meditate I can withdraw my attention away from the ego in the same way I withdraw attention from the body, mind and world, and in that moment everything ceased and there was Nothing.

[@luciiza_2116]

Not to be an asshole, you "you" cannot withdraw "your" attention away from those things. It happens automatically

[@allonszenfantsjones]

Well I think that's why they call them glimpses. It's kind of a zero-sum game when you can't use words to describe something that you can't describe 🤪 check out Tim Cliss, he is so resolute about this very conundrum. Plus I think if you don't have a sense of humor about it you're really doomed to suffer.

[@chitraisenlightened]

when you get liberated there wont be nothing..there will be You..

[@31TL22]

Buddhist - Shunyavada - Emptiness Advaita Vedanta - Purnavada - Fullness Both express: No-Thing (not nothing) 🙏💖

[@Marwan-Elected-for-Brutality]

That's child's play. When I for the very first time meditated (by observing my thoughts and letting them come and go) for just like 8 minutes I entered another dimension which would last over 1 year. Nothing is not a thing. You mean God. Not only is God the Witness of your experience and all things, God is your very direct experience, your very visual field, God just IS. I have submitted myself to God and His Will so much, and I have got trained so intensively and immensely in consciousness, it's almost like God can do miracles through me soon. I am elected, for spiritual brutality. I am Moses and King Solomon.

[@malabuha]

I watched a little kid seeing his reflection in the mirror for the first time. He thought he was seeing another kid right behind this glass surface, so he leaned sideways over the wall to check but the kid wasn't there. The same thing is happening here, we're just trying to make sense of our experience,. All this nonsense 😂

[@EhHold]

I had surgery recently and was given an IV anesthesia. I fell asleep and the level of peace during the procedure was astounding. I was left wondering if that peace is what I really am, unveiled.

[@chitraisenlightened]

when you get completely enlightened, That which is Real, Infinite Consciousness, the Supreme Self, is the only One Thing there..in the beyond the beyond..the world, all of anything created including the body/mind complex vanishes..it dissolves.all there is is You as That..the world and all of anything created was never there in the fisrt place..thats a description of ajata vada..there is an intellectual knowing and intuitional knowing and a direct knowing.

[@groundedunorthodoxy8000]

Eckhart prescribes no special techniques, practices, penances or pilgrimages, insisting that ‘whoever seeks God in a special way gets the way and misses God who lies hidden in it.’[21] It is for this reason that his spirituality is often referred to as a ‘wayless way’.

[@TheLeoPoint]

Ajatiwada Above/untouched/non movable non affected by "Time-space matter" is consciousness/knowledge/being The one who knowing, experiencing all , it will be different(knower) For instance I have mobile phone 📱 I who knows it means I'm not phone I'm diffrent from it(any obj,things) If any matter exists then it must have been built at some "Time" And it will be situated in some "space/base/location" And it ll be "End" oneday to it's origin matter for instance house built on specific date/day/yy (time),on land/region(space) bricks cement etc (matter) but this is all called "process" hence we feel this way I'll b born I'll b grow I'll b die but if we look at wide perspective thers hasn't born or die anything ,it's feel like one due to the process / sequence but the one who experienced all this process is different/untouchables/eternal/ immortal/ from time space matter it hasn't comes or go anywhere ,Except consciousness everything else comes under time space matter incl body... ✌🏻

[@rikshaka]

It's spelled AJĀTAVĀDA, that is, the third vowel is an "a" not an "I" - as Rupert and his guest correctly pronounce the word throughout the video. Of course, there are no capital letters in Sanskrit, so it's ajātavāda.

[@EnergiCodes]

It doesn't sound like good news to me. You go back to consciousness that doesnt known itself. Sounds like a nice way of saying death of the body is death of knowing yourself?

[@Puuws]

being yourself. Just like being selfconcious isn't always pleasant and puts you in your head, looking at yourself (and often judging). Just being present, even when there are no objects to be present off. The moments you feel most alive are the ones you just are

[@EnergiCodes]

@@Puuws I like that very true. Reminds me of the time I lost myself just looking at the leaves fall off a tree

[@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos]

@@EnergiCodes 🌬🍃🍂🍁.... .. . beautiful. simple. being without i . ✨

[@latehare111]

After years of studying and practicing this I finally get it, but you have to stop thinking about it , not listen to videos , or read about it for a couple of months and then go back to it, for it to click, does that make sense to anyone else?

[@prakashvakil3322]

Aatmiya DIVINITY Be Blessed HARE KRSN Consciousness is an interim, mortal, material, non- live, reducible , measurable mass subject to space, time, matter, names, forms, qualities, birth, growth, decay, death the agent of CONSCIOUS - unborn, immortal, invisible, immeasurable, irreducible, eternal, permanent, all knowingly, all seeing, all permitting, all merciful, self effulgent, omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, bubbling, free from space, time, matter, names, forms, qualities, birth, growth, decay, death. CONSCIOUS is unified field of Consciousness, Information - knowledge - skills - desire - wisdom - art - science - technology - commerce - law - chemistry - bio-chemistry - physical - mathematics - physiology - philosophy - cosmology - neurology - [nervous/respiratory/circulatory/digestive/endocrine/urinary/reproductive/locomotive/special senses]. Very respectfully 🙏 Loving ❣️ One & all Guruji Mahesh Yogiji devotees.

[@chiptowers1]

What! quote; " infinite consciousness" " experience of itself" " is", this teacher hasn't a clue. There is no such thing as infinite consciousness and if there was, then what is its faculty. Like the human has the physical brain as the faculty for mind and consciousness and all of that is derived from a Source Form which implemented mind ,consciousness only as a tool of use. Even Ajativada belief that the ABSOLUTE is not subject to birth, change and death. The Absolute is Aja the UNBORN which is all nonsense because the ABSOLUTE is not explained nor how Aja is the UNBORN. Ajativada beliefs has missed the boat. Basically you your lineage inception was FORMED not BORN. That what FORMED is the ABSOLUTE of Ajativada but that what FORMED is known because that FORMED SOURCE derived from and manifested from the elements of the Universe and transcended to then have a symbiotic relationship with Biology to give rise to the intelligent species. You will never arrive at Experience of yourself nor prior to experience unless you have the understanding of the knowledge how your lineage FORM inception derived. There is no empty void of yourself because your FORM iteration function operates 24/7 for it's purpose of survival and evolve it's host the physical body and brain, how do you think you lineage has come thus far, definitely not by consciousness. You bet your Source Form is conscious of death, so allow it to enlighten you of it's Presence.

[@holgerjrgensen2166]

Organism-Shifting-Principle is Change, the body You see in mirror, is Not older than 1½ year

[@annakarl9989]

Thank you 💞🕊️

[@kjelle3133]

Ajata is the ultimate and final ‘destination’. The destination of ‘no destination’ ! I am at peace. Even my inner turmoil is a joyful spring of experiencing. How can this be ?

[@wbaiey0]

Freaking awesome

[@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos]

because you experience your self as witness. aware of real you. 😀 only through pain we can experience freedom. 🙏

[@zoozooyum8371]

Is your Inner turmoil here, now?

[@upendramunasinghe6861]

Waking to infinite conciousness is really really really painful. I experience this. Is this correct ?

[@wbaiey0]

Beautiful

[@31TL22]

Buddhist - Shunyavada - Emptiness Advaita Vedanta - Purnavada Fullness Both express: No-Thing (not nothing)

[@valuemastery]

That was an amazing explanation, Rupert. It does not only help me think in terms of concepts of reality, but actually leads me to the core of it. Thank you!

[@kimulm0619]

Im not so sure about all this.Being honest.

[@klbat41]

RUPERT, DO U BELIEVE IN NPC'S ?

[@cliffordjohnson943]

Existence and awareness is ALL That is, the experience is real but it’s an illusion within its self, within Spirit. Consciousness is the infinite eternal part of everything.

[@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos]

The experiencing is not real, we only féél it ás real. But what is real never changes. Experience changes continuously 😊

[@aprilkitten]

What a perfectly brilliant explanation. Rupert sure has this mastered. I hope someday I can get a least halfway there.

[@esneliamunoz5082]

🕉🕉🕉

[@kjelle3133]

I lie down in the shallow waters of my being, the warm wave of the existent embodied and embodying. I rest in a sea of marvel. I live through the hearts of my own emanations. I, alone, am. Never less than every one, never less than every thing, never any of these ‘ones’. Not even one. Pure unity.

[@gireeshneroth7127]

Consciousness living a mind wake where the mind takes over.

[@ThomasRuf-dc3lx]

Violett face forvher,bmore true inbreal sense

[@ThomasRuf-dc3lx]

Movie started with 2star eyed cara delavine, it was only a pre view..

[@ThomasRuf-dc3lx]

Potter said in preview, unfassbarvwie die zeit vergeht,,, weil jemand auf letzen kommentar wartet

[@KevinTarver-x3s]

There is no self prior to experience duh

[@Devdevbruh]

2:55 makes no sense.

[@geneedgerton4482]

I really had to think about this statement, too: You cannot BE yourself and KNOW it. Then I realized that no one can understand this because the mind has no mechanisms to understand this. I had to go inside and experience it (not comprehend it) to see that the statement is true. I believe Rupert is referring to if ‘God’ is all being, then he cannot know himself. ‘God’ can only know the world (and himself) through the illusion of separate selves. Confusing, too, but I get it if I experience it, not when I try to comprehend it.

[@raghuneupane7123]

You cannot see your eyes through your eyes..

[@Rohit-oz1or]

One can hypnotize oneself into thinking anything but nothing changes the reality of the world i.e. one is born to die. The clock starts ticking when one enters this world. Everything is just escape from this fundamental reality

[@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos]

You seeing the world is your hypnotizing mind which disappears in deep dreamless sleep with world and all, you included.. where has that reality of that world gone? 😊

[@Rohit-oz1or]

@@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos world doesn't disappear in dreamless sleep- just its sensation does. Even in sleep, pain is felt when one gets hit

[@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos]

​@@Rohit-oz1or no, sorry. Pain is not felt in sleep or dream, not even in daily life, because body is inert. Pain can be in consiousness only. But once you realize there exists no body there is no pain even when accident takes place. I had a severe accident and my leg almost cut off. No pain no medication needed because my consiousness was empty of forms. Only thing left is Awareness. 😊 be blessed.

[@Rohit-oz1or]

@@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos I can't verify your claim of having accident and no pain after your leg cutoff. Even if that is so, it is no more than self hypnosis. What use is this self hypnosis- just to feel good while physical reality is something else.

[@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos]

@@Rohit-oz1or you are afraid to let go illusion. You as person, are ilusion so you are attached to your mind. I prefer freedom 💖

[@Nic-t6u]

When the hearth opens tears flow❤

[@kimulm0619]

Rupert how do you know that infinite consciousness can't know itself and be itself?

[@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos]

what you know is apart from you, what you are is you. so you can never be apart from you..only when you don't know you... 😀

[@klbat41]

RUPERT, WHERE DO U LIVE?

[@shinji5967]

Well what do ya know❤

[@hemamalinirs1002]

Beautiful, thank you so much Rupert , lots of love and immense gratitude ❤🙏🙏

[@ThomasRuf-dc3lx]

In einem ferrai 62er startet der golm nicht.

[@KriRama]

Rupert your explanations are so beautifully stated. 🥰🥰

[@mikejohn2307]

This isn't awakening. Believing in no birth and no death must be the ultimate in self delusion*. * (Definition. "a false belief or judgment about external reality, held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, occurring especially in mental conditions".

[@kevinhenry68]

If i may, I believe he is saying that we are eternal (spiritual) beings that were not born and will not die. The bodies we inhabit in order to experience this physical material reality are what "are born and die," but we are not those physical things. Just like we are not the avatar that we play in a video game. We do not die when the avatar dies. We simply choose another avatar and go on.

[@allonszenfantsjones]

Maybe you could think of it like birth = when your specific timeline begins and the finite world begins to exert conditions. But even under that paradigm, existence is illusory because you have no way of remembering the actual point of its beginning nor do you have control over it. Same thing with death.

[@mikejohn2307]

@@kevinhenry68 Kevin, thanks for your reply. I understand what you mean but I don't think there is any way of knowing. I believe a working brain is necessary to experience consciousness and this experience ceases when the brain stops. The actual consciousness may be universal but my experience of it is individual.

[@jfrah8078]

​@@mikejohn2307, we can see the universal consciousness as a an ocean and our bodies are the waves that individualy comes and go at the surface.

[@levlevin182]

Justice is Just being.

[@samc6231]

Understanding is beyond the mind, and Ajativada is the reason.

[@pilargarcia6724]

🙏🤍

[@T_from_U]

😶‍🌫

[@Nic-t6u]

Thank you Rupert,i cannot thank you enough you changed my life❤

[@JSzL33333]

So does the “higher mind” have some ego ? 🤍