Exploring Sigil

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AJ Pickett

AJ Pickett

Күн бұрын

Sigil, also frequently known as the Cage or the City of Doors, is a city-state and the supposed center of the multiverse which includes the Prime Material Plane and all other known planes, it is our home base as we begin the explores series, and we shall return here to delve into it's lore as we travel to various planes and prime locations in future videos.
UPDATE: I pronounce Sigil incorrectly, the correct way is "Sea-gull", I will endeavour to say it properly in future videos, forgive me folks.
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@trainwreckinc5418
@trainwreckinc5418 7 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that Sigil is the original plane of existence? I mean, it is connected to all of the other planes, perhaps the reason why the Gods don't go there is so that reality can remain stable.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
That is an interesting thought. Perhaps one of the so called Overgods created Sigil as a means to spawn the D&D universe, basically a big bang machine of some kind, or merely a tool to manipulate the power the overgod unleashed, and all the portals are the means the god used to direct the incredible power of creation into all the different layers of reality, creating Mechanus and Primus, Celestia, Nirvana, the Astral sea, all the prime material realms, etc. And it was only later, with the invasion of the Obrynth's that this smoothly running reality got messed up, devolving into a war between order and chaos. Hmmmm... interesting idea!!
@trainwreckinc5418
@trainwreckinc5418 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I think I am going to make a campaign on this idea! Every time I watch one of your videos I seem to get a bunch of ideas for campaigns! Keep up the good work!
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
Just the very idea that Sigil could be used as a cosmic lens to unmake the entire D&D universe, or send an effect through every portal at once, to literally cast a spell across every location in the D&D universe at once... that is mind boggling!I inspire you, you inspire me, works out well I think :D
@trainwreckinc5418
@trainwreckinc5418 7 жыл бұрын
Did I make a friend?! Such things are hard to come by indeed!
@KuLaydMahn
@KuLaydMahn 7 жыл бұрын
I like this idea as an explanation of how/why every plane is connected to Sigil and you can get literally anywhere in the universe from there. Sigil could be seen as the starting point, the very root of the universe, from which every other plane grew into existence. …well, it's an idea anyway.
@naughtseeingeye7767
@naughtseeingeye7767 6 ай бұрын
The Lady of Pain had 1 proxy- a servant imbued with a tiny shard of her power- Artus the doormaker. A nondescript human with workman's overalls & a tool belt. He made the non-Sigil ends of portals to the cage & seems to have had the power to stay unnoticed. Not invisible, just so non descript & ordinary that even a god in their own realm might not notice. Artus Journal was a powerful artifact allowing him to travel the multiverse by stepping into the pictures in the book & subsequently reaching back to close the book & take it with him. The Codex of Infinite Planes, but portable & lacking a curse
@chadlynch1551
@chadlynch1551 7 жыл бұрын
Old 2e foogy here. Planescape was my favorite. Have almost all the 2e stuff for it still. I always imagined the outer planes a sort of great, round table with all the different ethical alignments as weights around the edges, with the whole balanced precariously on the needle point of the spire ... aka, Sigil. In the original material it was noted that worshiping the Lady of Pain was strictly forbidden, and I think I know why. On the outer planes, belief is power. Enough people believing and acting the same way can move entire areas from one plane to another. Sigil sits at the center of the neutral plane, the balancing point if you will. If people stated to worship the Lady, their faith would end up influencing her, thus moving her away from perfect neutrality . Without perfect neutrality one can not rule the place of absolute neutrality. In short, being worshipped would push her out. Also, if any one philosophy or alignment were to get too much influence over this fulcrum of the multiverse, the table could tip over, and the whole of existence could come undone. Or I could just be full of it and have too much time on my hands.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
The fact remains though, that many residents of Sigil DO believe that Sigil must remain completely neutral. The beliefs of sentient beings, particularly of different cults, faiths or factions, is integral to the bubbling intrigue of the city.
@DCdabest
@DCdabest 4 жыл бұрын
I really like this idea!
@BlackDragonRPGReviews
@BlackDragonRPGReviews 2 жыл бұрын
This is a fascinating idea to contemplate! I’m going to work this concept into my current campaign. Thanks for sharing.
@CaptainValian
@CaptainValian 5 жыл бұрын
IO is the dragon deity. Lord AO is the overgod of Abeir-Toril.
@markfrederickson9164
@markfrederickson9164 2 жыл бұрын
Played in Sigil since 2nd Ed. Gods, how I love it.
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 4 жыл бұрын
I can imagine one of my characters _supremely_ pissing off a god and fleeing to sigil to escape the consequences of his actions.
@legionofyuri
@legionofyuri 4 жыл бұрын
Better join the Athar, then.
@chrisnichols9014
@chrisnichols9014 Жыл бұрын
Lady of Pain: I have your back, man! Just let me handle it!
@mylestoby2
@mylestoby2 7 жыл бұрын
ah yes, critical roles most feared location.
@22thevoice22
@22thevoice22 7 жыл бұрын
Bidet.
@SinsiAlpha
@SinsiAlpha 7 жыл бұрын
Ah ya... "City of Doors" I get it.
@spontaneouscombustionman3012
@spontaneouscombustionman3012 3 жыл бұрын
I am aware that this is three years old, but also Matt Mercer can't pronounce it.
@Feasael
@Feasael 3 жыл бұрын
@@spontaneouscombustionman3012 No matt pronounces it correctly. He can't pronounce the word sigil. But he can pronounce the name Sigil
@scott4092
@scott4092 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, Sigil the city is pronounced with a hard-G. Rhymes with "wiggle". I dunno why they did that, but they were specific about it in the source material. Weird.
@22thevoice22
@22thevoice22 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for rattling your bone-box blood. I'll remember this the next time I need a kip in the cage.
@HBookbinderGM
@HBookbinderGM Жыл бұрын
Thanks I’m including Sigil in a campaign I am running. It will be a key element but as it is a horror themed campaign when the PCs arrive Sigil will be a ghost town - I’m imagining space horror as if Sigil is a massive ship.
@KillerBeaArthur
@KillerBeaArthur 7 жыл бұрын
I'll try to condense this, but it'll be a bit of a long read: I played D&D 2nd Ed. way back in 1992-93 with friends (mainly Dark Sun). Lived near Milwaukee, so we were able to easily attend GenCon and I was able to get an early art book proof for Planescape before it was actually a product (I was way into the art and had become chummy with some of the TSR people). Never had a chance to play it as I focussed on art school and eventually adulting). Moved to the Twin Cities a few years ago and my new friends were all kind of in the same situation as I was...wanted to play, but hadn't in a long time. We started with a home-brew 1st edition campaign which is still going on a monthly basis, but some of us wanted more and have started a new campaign with someone else DMing. Now that we all have the strong itch, others of us are branching out and wanting to DM smaller campaigns with the same group. I'm looking at melding together Forgotten Realms, Planescape, and a little Spelljammer and your video overview of Sigil is EXCELLENT. At the end you said you'd be covering more Planescape material, but it looks like you haven't returned to the topic yet. If you could find the time to put together another video (or more) covering the factions and the Cant, I would be extremely thankful! Anyway, keep up the great work. Just subbed and will be checking out more of your stuff. :D
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
KillerBea Arthur so good to hear that I am helping out in some small way, yes I need to get that video done!
@KillerBeaArthur
@KillerBeaArthur 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! A channel like yours is a great resource, especially to a lapsed player like myself who loves digging into the lore and role-playing opportunities it provides.
@dillongage
@dillongage Жыл бұрын
All I can say, as a Minnesotan, you better not root for the Packers whilst living in the Twin Cities. I will find you.
@reedmclevis3820
@reedmclevis3820 11 ай бұрын
Do you think cheese curds squeek in the Astral Plane?
@Thagomizer
@Thagomizer 7 жыл бұрын
According to the original boxed set itself, Planescape is not meant to be a science fiction setting. In fact, it specifically discourages this sort of treatment. From page 74 of 'Sigil and Beyond': "1. Sure, this is a weird place, but it ain't science-fiction. Don't stick in stuff that isn't medieval in flavor. It's pretty obvious that spaceports wouldn't belong, but a DM's got to resist the urge for things like blasters as neat weapons, magical devices that feel a lot like computer networks, intra-city teleportation chambers, and crystal ball phone systems." "2. Like the first point, this ain't some prime material 20th-century world, neither. A lot of DMs forget that life was different in medieval times--not just the buildings, but also the conventions of trading. The DM shouldn't go sticking in things like assembly lines, general stores, travel agencies (let the faction headquarters do that), grocery stores, or even public street departments. Most folks in Sigil do or deal in one particular kind of thing. One baker makes nothing but bread, another specializes in pastries. The armorer makes armor, but he doesn't make weapons, and so on. Remember, a man either makes something or sells something that somebody else made. People who provide nothing but services, like cleaners and investment advisers, are called servants and councilors. There aren't things like banks with security vaults (what cutter'd trust his fortune to another in Sigil?) or travel agents who will arrange a berk's expedition to the outer planes. When the player characters want several things, they've got to do a little legwork. Don't drag it out, but just remind them when their characters are gathering equipment that they've also got to visit five, six, eight, or ten different stalls in the Great Bazaar." "3. Don't treat magical items like machinery. This is a fantasy game, so it's got magic, but it's also got to feel magical. If a cutter's built a golem, he's not going to use it just to stoke his furnace. Sure a person can buy or sell magic here, but there aren't any department stores and such that do that. Make player characters run around to get what they want. It gives them a reason to explore Sigil." "4. Avoid cute little businesses like 'Wanda's Tea Shoppe' or 'The Gold Bariaur Beauty Parlor' (which goes against the second point). The reader may have noticed that Sigil's not a cute place. Encounters and locations done for a quick laugh'll sink the tone of Sigil faster than lead weights. That doesn't mean there's not stuff that's funny, pleasant, relaxing, peaceful, and nice in Sigil--it's just not cute" "5. Be inconveniently convenient. If the characters really want something in Sigil, it's probably there. Finding or using it, though, may not be easy."
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
True, true, true.Which is why I added these very important words to my comments on magic and technology.. "Just my opinion".I am not saying do it or don't do it, I am of the opinion that most DM's are capable of including technology without it breaking the game, or detracting from the setting.. also, it is a hell of a lot of fun to have a player character come across an item we players are familiar with, but have to look at it through the eyes of the character, and react accordingly (anyone who has played Paranoia will know what that feels like).Space ships, blasters, computers, cell phones.. pftt, give me a spell book any day.
@Thagomizer
@Thagomizer 7 жыл бұрын
"Whoever marries the spirit of this age will find himself a widower in the next." -- William Ralph Inge
@genostellar
@genostellar 5 жыл бұрын
At the same time, it's up to the DM and the players what is included within their roleplay.
@KoryLunaa
@KoryLunaa 5 жыл бұрын
I find much more interesting if it was treated as a sort of sci-fi steampunk & cyberpunk amd medieval urban fantasy hybrid than a non sci fi one
@tonydanatop4912
@tonydanatop4912 4 жыл бұрын
Isnt sigil still connected to ebberon ?
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 4 жыл бұрын
This has to be my second favorite TMG video.
@Read023
@Read023 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for these planescape videos, been looking for stuff about planescape and there isnt much to be found, so thx!
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
You are most welcome!
@aaronhumphrey2009
@aaronhumphrey2009 2 жыл бұрын
My current theory about Sigil is that it was 'created or preserved ' by the Lashay immortal race, using Epic-Level Magic & Artifacts. Sigil a Remnant from the last existing Universe before the creation of this one . They chose to preserve that pocket of reality for themselves, cutting off Divine powers because they want to avoid any further meddling by the Gods. The ' Lady of Pain ', Sigils mysterious sole ruler, is an epic Lashay spellcaster that commands terrifying powers .
@aliceofspades
@aliceofspades 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering Sigil! I've only just begun looking into the Planescape setting, and Sigil especially sounds fascinating!
@johnstorm9314
@johnstorm9314 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I liked about 4th Edition D&D, the Nentir Vale. It was refreshing to get a non-Forgotten Realms setting for the game.
@garymorris7472
@garymorris7472 3 жыл бұрын
Third Edition had Eberron, 2e had Greyhawk, FR, Dragonlance, Dark Sun, Birthright, Spelljammer, Ravenloft, Mystara..... jeez, there's plenty more besides FR.
@coachcolbath7479
@coachcolbath7479 7 жыл бұрын
The dark of sigil revealed by a true power. Thanks AJ, planescape is my favorite and used to be my least understood setting.
@grim161
@grim161 2 жыл бұрын
Mmm donuts... Now that's language I as an American can understand.
@Agendaen
@Agendaen 6 жыл бұрын
Only a berk calls "the land" the concordant plain!
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 6 жыл бұрын
Well leatherhead, I ain't dishing out cant to bashers here am I?
@MaximeDompierre
@MaximeDompierre 7 жыл бұрын
I am currently mastering an homebrew game and I had a system like the City of Sigil (But it was a dark/black void with stone arch doors) ; approching them would reveal a plan to move to. This is only 3 month later that I heard of Sigil and I plan to use its lore. Players will eventually be able to see the city after a while - and Seriously, your explanations are good man, continue the good work !
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I plan to :)
@BruceWayne-mb4hk
@BruceWayne-mb4hk 7 жыл бұрын
Wow I finally found someone who knows all the geeky shit I learned in middle school better than I do.
@Jader7777
@Jader7777 7 жыл бұрын
I had no idea this existed! I made a campaign setting around this idea- If I knew something already existed it would have saved me a tonn of work!
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
The links in the video blah blah have pretty much everything you need.
@Jader7777
@Jader7777 7 жыл бұрын
The first link is broken, but I can find it with the search function.
@azboomstickco4078
@azboomstickco4078 Жыл бұрын
This is actually a pretty good video
@nbmoleminer5051
@nbmoleminer5051 6 жыл бұрын
A very intriguing location.
@That80sGuy1972
@That80sGuy1972 5 жыл бұрын
10/10 video here AJ. When I created Loom of Magus, it was before Spelljammer and Planescape existed. Loom of Magus is 100 light-years in diameter. Almost every star has at least one planet with lots of life on it. It is spherical with the "upper" and "lower" areas being a bit of a void... seemingly. They are the dark space that agents of chaos and brutal order retreat to after they do their thing. All the suns (stars) are massive Radiant Energy vents in their solar systems. When Spelljammer was introduced, I altered the reality of Loom of Magus to have traveled between systems within Loom of Magus far accelerated because they sail in Loom's string lines as it is between stars. I also altered the Movians to operate outside of that in their Star Wars-Star Trek hybrid MOA as their collapsed empire with some ancient tech left on some planets. When Planescape was introduced, I had to scramble where Loom of Magus actually existed. I had divinity rules inspired by D&D boxed sets, the Immortal Set. I put them on the other side of Concordant Opposition in my games but Loom of Magus is a better fit as an outer-planar demi-plane in the center of Concordant Opposition because of the godhood (and major power/ philosophic) rules and outer plane access relative to that. Every campaign I DM'd is canon. Every one. They are all on different worlds in Loom of Magus if not a continuation of the current one. I have a map and timeline that my players never learned, from Chrystonians to Movians (Gods vs. tech) to The Dark One and alternate Loom of Magus universes.
@michaelkelligan7931
@michaelkelligan7931 6 жыл бұрын
Regardless,Sigil is a fun and fascinating beginning to any number of campaigns. I usually use it to start a multiverse adventure for mid and high level players.....i tried once or twice with lower level players with disastrous results 🤔
@Maehedrose
@Maehedrose 2 жыл бұрын
That's too bad. I have run many campaigns in Sigil that started at level 1. Planescape, especially Sigil, is a setting where wits are more important than swords so clever players should be able to survive there just fine. Stupid players ... well, they eventually learn to be less stupid and their 10th character should be able to survive there just fine.
@whoaitstiger
@whoaitstiger 5 жыл бұрын
16:34 I wonder how many homages to the original PHB cover art are scattered throughout publications over the years. I've seen one with the same scene drawn from above and behind the statue.
@archam777
@archam777 3 жыл бұрын
Planescape Torment was an amazing game. The Nameless One was the original OP character.
@docbrown7916
@docbrown7916 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic vid AJ !
@dreammirrorbrony1240
@dreammirrorbrony1240 6 жыл бұрын
Way back in 1.5 d&d, the original book of the planes didn't have the concept of sigil yet, but the tower like structure at the center of the concordent opposition plane was mentioned by some to be like "an umbillecal cord"; suggesting that in some ways, it was the begining(or ending) of where all creation was located. It was unknown though because no mortal or immortal could approach closer than 100 miles from the center. Also, its the only known infinite plane of existence with an actual center(though the elemental planes are suggestive in this regards as they mention "as one approaches said plane, more and more stuff of that plane can be found". To me, this suggests that while massive in scope and effectively infinite, they were in fact finite. I guess if a finite universe 100 billion light years across existed, it would be effectively infinite as far as humans were concerned.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the other option is that, if you were to reach the 'edge' you would just end up turned around or carry on moving through a dimension twisted and connected to itself like a Mobius strip.
@greedfox7842
@greedfox7842 6 жыл бұрын
I once had a game in sigil, and as a player I had a high lore check; long story short we got ourselves close to our main bad guy, and we all realised our death was imminent, nothing we could do could kill or even slow down our bad guy... in desperation, my character dropped to his knees and began to pray to the lady of pain. the boss bad guy slaid my cohorts one by one on his way to me, and just as he swung his sword in a coup de grâce against my kneeling character, the lady heard my prayer, my character in his last moments saw the visage of the lady as she rendered the bad guy to shreds, viscera covering the walls and falling on the bodies of his fallen friends before darkness and death overtook him. my GM was forced to give me my desperate and bittersweet victory through blood sacrifice, we paid the ultimate price, and the city and each of our homeworlds were saved from the greater evil that that bad guy represented. (he was also buthurt that I killed his greatest monster)
@ThisNameIsBanned
@ThisNameIsBanned 5 жыл бұрын
Next time you better give a high level cleric your credits and let them resurrect your dead characters. Money can win you any battle ;P
@bartistclord1916
@bartistclord1916 4 жыл бұрын
I hate to break the news, but Nothing about 'praying to the Lady' forces the GM to have a god slay your enemies for you... that was your GM handing you a win because they felt bad about slaughtering everyone's characters.
@ebonstone2980
@ebonstone2980 7 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping you would delve into what occurred within Sigil in 4e. I've known nothing since Faction War in 2e
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
I can talk about that, the expulsion of the factions is one of the most interesting course of events in a long while and well worth a chat.
@ebonstone2980
@ebonstone2980 7 жыл бұрын
It really bothered me they ended with Faction War; as Planescape was mean to continue beyond.
@22thevoice22
@22thevoice22 7 жыл бұрын
Next episode we can pay the fee for access to the Hall of Records Portal Registry and pick our next planar destination. How about a vacation for our weary travelers? I hear The Twin Paradises of Bytopia are always nice this time of year.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
Nice... so nice... too nice.
@22thevoice22
@22thevoice22 7 жыл бұрын
Just watch what you say to the trees...
@genostellar
@genostellar 5 жыл бұрын
I just had a thought... Sigil is a place where any closed shape can be a portal which the Lady of Pain is in control of, but nobody knows what the Lady of Pain's ultimate plan is in Sigil. The entire city, however, is basically a giant circle. That's a closed shape. Is it possible that maybe she's there researching portals in order to use Sigil itself as a giant portal in an attempt to reach the being of light, the luminous one, and kill him? After all, that being seems like the only thing that could be more powerful than her. Maybe she wants a challenge?
@Zinfandelthered1979
@Zinfandelthered1979 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks A.J., great job.
@TotalTech2.
@TotalTech2. 6 жыл бұрын
I wish someone would make a great D&D video game one day
@LeastTresCharLargo
@LeastTresCharLargo 5 жыл бұрын
Planescape torment
@garymorris7472
@garymorris7472 3 жыл бұрын
Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape Torment???
@themightypen1530
@themightypen1530 2 жыл бұрын
Sigil is one of my favorite settings for an Adventure. I loved Darksun too but I feel like I was the only one.
@kyliepoe6231
@kyliepoe6231 7 жыл бұрын
My favorite dnd setting ever, and perhaps the first time the official material said "are alignments necessarily so static"? letting players interact with creatures that would otherwise be too hostile. Please do more videos on it, detailing the interactions of the factions with one another and Sigil itself, and maybe describe their headquarters. Also, it's pronounced like 'Seagull', ya clueless cutter.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
That's the plan Scott! And I am saying Si-jul, it's just my antipodean accent.
@GreenLanternCorps2814
@GreenLanternCorps2814 7 жыл бұрын
I do not believe that your pronounciation is correct.
@kyliepoe6231
@kyliepoe6231 7 жыл бұрын
The original sources are specific about the pronunciation and use it as one way to tell clueless from cagers. mimir.planewalker.com/forum/sigil-or-sigil
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
I stand corrected, and will train myself to say it correctly on all future videos. It is pronounced See-Gull, officially, and clearly stated in multiple sources as such.My bad.
@kyliepoe6231
@kyliepoe6231 7 жыл бұрын
All love, AJ. Your videos rock and are way in depth. It's an honor to add a bit to your knowledge.
@nikolaesawinsky1889
@nikolaesawinsky1889 6 жыл бұрын
I was inspired by holly conrad trapped in the birdcage to start a campaign for my girlfriend in sigil, only having played fifth edition I had no experience with the setting other than the basic description of the city. I decided to homebrew most of the content, it takes place after a power vacume created by the death of the lady of pain where i simplified the factions down to 4 factions each based on one of the tarot suits vying for control of the city. I used some prominent locations of sigil and created many of my own and divided them up between my 4 factions. Honestly it's been loads of fun, i constantly get to improvise the chains of small npc encounters and it's a rich mix off the wackky fun and ominous and often things are never as they seem at a first glance so it's perfect for keeping my pcs on their toes as they learn about sigil.
@markrob2892
@markrob2892 7 жыл бұрын
I love Planescape.. I always played Aasimar and Tiefling... and really liked the Doomguard... I miss playing in that realm.
@pbr-streetgang
@pbr-streetgang 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid sir.👍🏼👍🏼
@Feenix102
@Feenix102 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you use the black hole analogy. There is a theory that the centre of some black holes is in fact a torus that things may be able to pass through. That is if it doesnt get spaghettified (yes that is an actual term used in physics, lol) by the gravitational forces inside the black hole itself.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 3 жыл бұрын
Kerr (who was a New Zealander, by the way) worked out that singularities have the property of spin, just as sub-atomic particles do. A spinning black hole presents the possibility of a ring shaped singularity spinning at mind bending speed. But, the only way anything is going through that is if they are made of exotic matter that may not even exist... still, the idea of going through a wormhole that could take you across the universe and to a random point in time is an exciting concept that science fiction has spun into countless fanciful stories :)
@Feenix102
@Feenix102 3 жыл бұрын
@@AJPickett Indeed. :)
@dragonballtalk8527
@dragonballtalk8527 2 жыл бұрын
Candidate for possible remastered video
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@GarredHATES
@GarredHATES 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying it the right way and not the stupid baby word wrong people think it should be.
@felixrivera895
@felixrivera895 6 жыл бұрын
8:00 it makes perfect sense. Sigil is the soul of the universe.
@erroneous6947
@erroneous6947 Жыл бұрын
I’m guessing it’s a vasharan city. From the book of vile darkness. They built this city before they were annihilated by the combined might of the gods. Who knows what they made a bargain with to achieve the god free zone. Something from the outer realms maybe.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett Жыл бұрын
The old ones, before they left for higher dimensions and created the dimensional vortex behind them.
@stevensmith8403
@stevensmith8403 5 жыл бұрын
The Outlands is an outer plane that connects all of the outer planes.
@camelwars
@camelwars 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe theese other planes are the "internal planes", the psychological realm inside all thinking and feeling creatures? It connects everyone, is everywhere and has the power to control or influence even the gods.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
That is certainly a core conceptual aspect of the Astral sea, and the Aligned planes, yeah.
@twistedexistence3603
@twistedexistence3603 4 жыл бұрын
I'm old school. I skipped from first edition, clear up to fifth. Let's just say, there were a lot of gaps, to fill =)
@1234kalmar
@1234kalmar 7 жыл бұрын
Yeay!!! You mentioned Kobolds! I love those little guys!
@AmaryInkawult
@AmaryInkawult 6 жыл бұрын
Have one in your party with a brute and you'll never need to worry about locked doors when a window is within throwing distance. Yes I played a kobold that was often thrown into open windows.
@bebop417
@bebop417 6 жыл бұрын
This was fun to watch and got my little grey cells thinking, thanks o/.
@valarkov6455
@valarkov6455 7 ай бұрын
Does Sigil have sigil? I'd love to see a short scene where some teenager gets into Sigil during Halloween and doesn't notice, asks people if they also have a problem with internet connection, compliments Black abishai about his "cool costume".. Then is found dead near that place with every bone broken..
@VermilionMage
@VermilionMage 7 жыл бұрын
"Ao" is the overgod, not "Io". Io is the father of Bahamut and Tiamat.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, my pronunciation of those two sucks. And also, thank you for the clarification.
@feelthepony
@feelthepony 7 жыл бұрын
was very sure they re the same,is not io just like ao? more powerful and distant.
@Bready_Player_Bun
@Bready_Player_Bun 6 жыл бұрын
@inigo Io is the God of Dragons. Progenitor of Bahamut and Tiamat. Ao is the grandpappy overgod. Alpha/Omega. And best set aside in a tiny box and ignored as intensely as possible, which is exactly how he likes it.
@feelthepony
@feelthepony 6 жыл бұрын
then i have a problem,he does not and cannot exist in the same "multiverse"as my campaign scenario for a bunch of complicated reasons,and at the same time,i was planning the addition of a place with some ties with sigil (not friendly with sigil) and i want to be coherent when shaping my campaign world,is he basically the judeochristian god and HES WATCHIN YOU all the time?can a universe be not created directly by him or something?
@Bready_Player_Bun
@Bready_Player_Bun 6 жыл бұрын
Technically Ao is the Forgotten Realms overgod, so if you're not dipping into the overly messy backyard of Drizzt and Elminster, you're good. Even if you are there though, I really wouldn't worry about Ao. There's an underlying current of comedy in D&D (just look at some spell components) and Ao is your divine comedy. Ao is like the rules. You don't pray to the rules, you don't talk to the rules. Ao shows up basically whenever the "rules" get changed (typically these are edition changes.) At the end of the Time of Troubles I believe, when Ao sorts things out, he reports to "The Master" which considering we're playing a game that's run by a "Dungeon Master" I don't think it's too far a stretch to guess who that is. But ultimately, it doesn't matter. Because if you accept the meta joke, you're the god above the god above god (the all-mighty DM) and you can rewrite those details however you see fit. If you don't accept the meta joke, you're still left with a being that almost never interacts with the world, doesn't talk to anyone, and is for all intents and purposes just line of flavour text that most mortals aren't even aware is there. Now if you really want to get your head swimming, try to shoehorn the Crystal Spheres into your setting. Happy jamming!
@kingmasterlord
@kingmasterlord Жыл бұрын
3:00 I believe it is the underside of the Land of the Lost. okay Danny McBride and Chaka are now quest NPCs, I'm writing a module.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett Жыл бұрын
Chaka was hilarious
@khilorn
@khilorn 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like an architects dream and nightmare at the same time
@kingmasterlord
@kingmasterlord 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to build my own Sigil, a mythallar-powered spelljammer flying city. Maybe a Netherese city was in the elemental plane of air getting fitted for a spelljamming helm when Karsus' Folly popped off. Some deal with the genies went wrong and they're just now getting loose from it? Or just Karsus broke magic and sent them to now
@dandereninja4750
@dandereninja4750 2 жыл бұрын
Well in the new spelljammer books coming out there are cities built on asteroids in the astral sea. Also there is a manta ray shaped spelljammer that has a city on its back.
@projectbaum
@projectbaum 5 жыл бұрын
Doors, windows, potholes...it seems that every enclosed two-dimensional shape in Sigil can act as a portal. So what about the space in the middle of the city itself?
@BrandonSmith-ys2oz
@BrandonSmith-ys2oz 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, just thought I'd point out that this isn't in your exploring playlist. I haven't watched the video yet, but Sigil has always been an interesting place, so I'm looking forward to it!
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
Brandon Smith thank you!
@johntheherbalistg8756
@johntheherbalistg8756 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think high tech or space ships "ruin it", but I tend to ignore them and play swords and sorcery high fantasy. I tend to like the Medieval-ish feel
@besaidknight
@besaidknight 6 жыл бұрын
I've rarely had the pleasure to go out beyond the prime material plane... my players wouldn't willingly go through strange gates, often doing it the Drow way by tossing in a captured kobold or goblin to see if they disintegrate or are able to scurry back out alive. They didn't play nice people a lot of the time... e.e
@kordelshorgar122
@kordelshorgar122 7 жыл бұрын
14:52 as i said in a previus video i do love a good engma and a good unkown :) ( i also like your black hole theory some times keep things a little vague is not so bad :D )
@mr7oclock346
@mr7oclock346 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of Planescape, but what are some adventure ideas for this setting?
@dragonballtalk8527
@dragonballtalk8527 6 жыл бұрын
Do more sigil videos this and the hey Jordan the ph is silent guy got the best ones
@dannalbob
@dannalbob 7 жыл бұрын
"Welcome to Sigil... Prepare Your Mind for Getting Fucked" should be on a postcard...
@rickeymariu1
@rickeymariu1 6 жыл бұрын
I miss these. There are still planes left.
@Encounterpart
@Encounterpart 5 жыл бұрын
Stop rattling your bone box, berk! It's Sigil, not Sijil.
@kaseyboles30
@kaseyboles30 4 жыл бұрын
His pronunciation is pretty close. J sound not hard g.
@Encounterpart
@Encounterpart 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaseyboles30 Ah, I see we have another prime here. Welcome to the Cage, throwback.
@Anaris10
@Anaris10 3 жыл бұрын
Sig-il. No soft G or J.
@dillongage
@dillongage Жыл бұрын
@@Anaris10 like as in a SIG Sauer? Why do they insist on using real words and then telling you you're saying it wrong.
@appleseedtrees7512
@appleseedtrees7512 11 ай бұрын
​@@Anaris10that is soft g you fool
@RobCrowley85
@RobCrowley85 Жыл бұрын
Remember, folks- stop asking the Lady of Pain to RSVP 😜
@999YCM
@999YCM 6 жыл бұрын
one ~ day ~ i ~ will ~ go ~ there
@L0rdm3phiston
@L0rdm3phiston 5 жыл бұрын
Could the lady of pain take the plane of Ravnica and mix it with Sigil if her attention was brought to Ravnica??
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, your game, your rules, but... no.
@tonydanatop4912
@tonydanatop4912 4 жыл бұрын
If just make an event where some planes walkers from rav found thier way into sigil and depending on the players there could be portal network opened to it
@Micras08
@Micras08 4 жыл бұрын
That would go against what she's trying to do I think. That being said I very much think that Ravnica is connected to Sigil in some shape or form, as any setting/plane/world probably is :) That's at least how I've always used Sigil
@lionbryce10101
@lionbryce10101 6 жыл бұрын
A torus is the best shape
@linguisticallyoversight8685
@linguisticallyoversight8685 6 жыл бұрын
Besides 10 lb brass clankers that shoots Sparks when you walk what would you have to have to forge a warlock Pact with the lady of pain
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 6 жыл бұрын
She doesn't form pacts... ever.
@linguisticallyoversight8685
@linguisticallyoversight8685 6 жыл бұрын
AJ Pickett okay I could see that but you would think any warlock brave enough to even attempt such a thing would either earn her respect or her ire either one of those would not be good you don't want to be on the bad side of a goddess known as the lady of pain and I don't think you want to be on her good side either
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 6 жыл бұрын
She is not a goddess. Technically, she is some sort of over-god.
@linguisticallyoversight8685
@linguisticallyoversight8685 6 жыл бұрын
AJ Pickett you're kind of splitting hairs she has more power the most of the Gods combined there's probably only two other beings in the entire D&D Multiverse that can even compete on her level at least as far as being inside of the crystal sphere because there's probably something out there in the hyperflow that's even more powerful
@naughtseeingeye7767
@naughtseeingeye7767 2 жыл бұрын
It's said she has spoken to 1 person, who is kept in the Gatehouse insane asylum... The Gatehouse has some very interesting... Residents
@KuLaydMahn
@KuLaydMahn 7 жыл бұрын
I strongly prefer *your* pronunciation of "Sigil" over the "correct" way just sounds kinda clumsy to me... Does that make sense? But hey - that's just one more opinion!
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
I try to follow the literature, and it was clearly the intent of the creators that it be called Sea-jull. To those creators, I would say it is kind of an elitist dick thing to do, and I believe it has been handled poorly, so that most people say the word as it is spelled. But, I'll do my best to pronounce it 'properly', sorry Eric.. maybe I will just call it the Cage or the City of Doors far more than I call it seagull.
@KuLaydMahn
@KuLaydMahn 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding you or if you're misunderstanding me - I prefer "sea-jull" (soft "G") to "sea-gull" (hard "G"), I think the hard "G" pronunciation sounds clumsy and I liked that you were pronouncing it with soft a "G."
@KuLaydMahn
@KuLaydMahn 7 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh wait - I understand you now. Yeah, no need to apologize! You pronounce it however you want to, I was just supporting you in your initial pronunciation and giving my opinion why. That's all - you just do whatever suits YOU best!
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Coffey oh I see, ha ha, cool then :)
@Slechy_Lesh
@Slechy_Lesh 6 жыл бұрын
That is very silly of the author of that product - the word sigil already exists, pronounced sijil. Very absurdly extremist.
@JimPlaysGames
@JimPlaysGames 6 жыл бұрын
So if it's cut off from the gods does that mean that clerics can't cast their spells there?
@bulksquatthrust8792
@bulksquatthrust8792 6 жыл бұрын
JimPlaysGames Well, magic in general is present there, and that is essentially a product of Mystra, the goddess of magic. In short, I'd say that the Gods themselves are not permitted to enter Sigil, but their influence may. It's ultimately your choice how you interpret it.
@ericwalston2344
@ericwalston2344 6 жыл бұрын
Freud would've appreciated the spire & torus depiction of Sigil...
@bigd7861
@bigd7861 5 жыл бұрын
LMFAO!!! "I believe Sir, you suffer from 'Spire Envy!'"
@muskyelondragon
@muskyelondragon 6 жыл бұрын
It's not Sidgil, it's Sig 'il. Sigil is the city of doors. It is not a sidgil or sign. Sigil is the Lady of Pain. They are one and the same.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 6 жыл бұрын
Correct. This was one of the things that the community helped me with back in April, since then I have been pronouncing it correctly, so, thanks for that :)
@muskyelondragon
@muskyelondragon 6 жыл бұрын
AJ Pickett Your vids a really great, thanks for your work! 😃
@ryderma1
@ryderma1 4 жыл бұрын
Any thought on solidifying the lore that exists and ending our own to make a setting of Sigil? Or do they already have something none official for 5e?
@danielkubicek1323
@danielkubicek1323 4 жыл бұрын
Good advice for Clueless in the Hive; beware the scent of cinnimon!😈
@zivotshonzou
@zivotshonzou Жыл бұрын
Sigil is the manifestation of City of Neverwhere, City in Between, the space between lines. There is quite a place in human counciousness for this place. It is everywhere and nowhere at the same time. You cannot normally enter or leave this space. But at the same time, you can get anywhere from it and from anywhere to get it. A common space for all the creation. Reality there is...enjoyable. You can get there from real life. The easiest way is from dreaming. It is just not a "safe" space if you dont know the rules. The breaking of rules cost anyone dearly. But, you can get anything in that space. Space in between. Everytime being with you and never being with you. Also in human folklore as a pub which you can find in the time of need(for example in the blizzard on mountain trail), but never to find it again.
@wittwashere
@wittwashere 7 жыл бұрын
littler late to the party here but what about the theory that the "lady" is aio (sp?) that sigil is what it its because it is the home of the overgods physical form
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 7 жыл бұрын
One could also theorize that Ao is Law/creation, the lady is Neutrality/equilibrium and Tharizdun is Chaos/entropy.. Ao can not be destroyed as he is the origin of the other gods and the ultimate source of cosmic law, the lady can not be destroyed (as far as we know) and no other divine power works in her vicinity, Tharizdun can not be destroyed, and it took the power of all the other gods to even imprison him.. plus, he created the abyss, and Ao did nothing to stop it happening, so, it could be that these are three aspects of the one over god, sure.
@cynfrank3197
@cynfrank3197 Жыл бұрын
Are you familiar with “house of doors by Bryan Lumley. ❤🙋🏾‍♀️
@AJPickett
@AJPickett Жыл бұрын
I am not, I shall check it out.
@naughtseeingeye7767
@naughtseeingeye7767 4 жыл бұрын
There is a park like area that draws tree living species like ratatosk& avariels. Chop down trees or litter at your own peril. Sigil seems to be 1 of the few huge cities in the multiverse the Infinite Staircase doesn't connect to
@Deadman7977
@Deadman7977 4 жыл бұрын
The lady of pain enters sigil to imprison the nameless one.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 4 жыл бұрын
The Lady of Pain is always in Sigil.
@Deadman7977
@Deadman7977 4 жыл бұрын
@@AJPickett is the lady of pain a deity? I was certain she was but my recent playthrough of planescape was unclear on that front.
@valarkov6455
@valarkov6455 7 ай бұрын
​@@Deadman7977no, Good sir. She is no god, she could not enter her own city. If you treat her as one, she will maze you/ take your skin/delete you. I know I'm bit late. Take care
@zmishiymishi5349
@zmishiymishi5349 3 жыл бұрын
Nice... Ish
@antwan1357
@antwan1357 4 жыл бұрын
i wonder where do the souls of the people go ? Since deities cannot enter.
@VailxD
@VailxD 4 жыл бұрын
Doesnt seem to be many video games based off of the planescape multiverse. Anybody know some besides torment and numenera?
@knowledgenil1600
@knowledgenil1600 4 жыл бұрын
If you dig this, check out this discord server. discord.gg/tpsfXpZ
@chaddixon9764
@chaddixon9764 7 жыл бұрын
So this is where Stryx comes from? Dang
@kephalai
@kephalai 2 жыл бұрын
28:12 what is the ending song you used ? its great and i want to listen to the whole song :D
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea
@bitterzombie
@bitterzombie 3 жыл бұрын
They don't seem too concerned with Primes in Sigil, but what if one appeared through a new portal, from a place that is unknown to them? I'm homebrewing a realm that is stitched together from the lost pieces of various material realms that became unlinked from their original universe, and recombined into a new one. Portals are just now opening to various other realms, most having never been crossed through before. So if a player character came to Sigil from such a place, essentially the first visitor from their own little prime material plane, would they be well received? Interrogated? Or simply shrugged off as another clueless Prime? I suppose it depends on the faction, but I'm curious about the political ramifications, especially if it opens things up to planars from sigil venturing into the new region, with goals for either academic study or military conquest. The player characters accidently finding themselves at the center of this intrigue simply due to being the first one arriving there through a new portal.
@dillongage
@dillongage Жыл бұрын
How did it go? Personally I don't think they would care at all about the character. They would probably have some interested in exploring a new area, and studying it, but unless the chapter themselves opened the portal why would they care about them?
@brightglory5734
@brightglory5734 5 жыл бұрын
Wares from anywhere or Weres from anywhere?
@_swordfern
@_swordfern 4 жыл бұрын
Lady of Pain. No worship allowed.
@MetaphorUB
@MetaphorUB 2 жыл бұрын
Can clerics cast spells in Sigil, since no deity can enter its existence?
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, just the first few levels of cleric spells, nothing past 3rd level I think.
@shawnhowe7311
@shawnhowe7311 9 ай бұрын
Hi Do you happen to know a map showing The location of Bigby's statue? Thx
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 9 ай бұрын
In the Cage: A Guide to Sigil, page 39: "Three streets beyond the enormous statue of some prime named Bigby, just a short walk from the Armory, the Golden Bariaur serves a clientele from the Upper Planes, from Arborea to Mount Celestia." Bigby, many centuries ago, even founded a university in Sigil, but it's now converted to something else. nether-whisper.ru/rp/planescape/map-of-sigil/
@shawnhowe7311
@shawnhowe7311 9 ай бұрын
@@AJPickett Thank You T M G
@smile-tl9in
@smile-tl9in 5 жыл бұрын
clerical magic do not work in sigil ? What about other divine magic like druidic magic ?
@richlong7705
@richlong7705 5 жыл бұрын
Almost like a Diet R'lyeh -
@Izzo-io2ou
@Izzo-io2ou Жыл бұрын
Is it IO or AO, i seem to rememer thd latter; pronounced Ay-Oh. I dont recall if they used him in Greyhawk or not. I never could reconsile the fact that demonz, devil, angels, and whatnot, could just purues around with all the ither denziens of the multiverse without any major trouble breaking out everywhere. A Demon in Sigil is still a Demon, engines of destruction, violence, and hate, right? They dont behave in the Abyss, the Prime, or any of the planes one may have the misfortune of running across them. I dont think the lower types could pocess the self control not to cause havoc, and the higher types, i feel would be too arrogant, selfish, and ragefull, to even try if they did pocess it. Devils, on the other hand, would be driven to absolute madness by the chaos and disorder of the place, not to mention, seeing demons walking around. Would angels, devas, solars and the like, even wish to be in the city with creatures of such unadultrated evil? Or would their self rightousness, arrogance and loathing of such beings, even allow them to remain peacefull? And thats the top of the list, you have the Elemental hostilities, between genies, effrit, dao, and the rest, the endless conflict of the elements. And so on... Dont get me wrong AJ, i love the idea of Sigil, i just dont believe, if one is being true to outer/inner plane beings, that they could coexsist not matter what the punishment of not doing so may bring. Hunans cant even do it here, and we are far from the enbodiment of absolutes. Imagine a Slaad being told to behave or else, they'd misbehave just because someone told them to, or just to see what ruckus it causes. Sorry about the spelling, spell check is off, and i cant seem to get it back up, and running.
@AJPickett
@AJPickett Жыл бұрын
Io is the dragon god, Ao is the planet Toril god.
@Izzo-io2ou
@Izzo-io2ou Жыл бұрын
@@AJPickett didn't know, thanks. Like I said, it's been awhile :-)
@jacobpickens2283
@jacobpickens2283 5 жыл бұрын
what about demon lord and arch devils do you think they can go into sigil
@jgr7487
@jgr7487 6 жыл бұрын
but what about the Lady of Pain? could you make a vid on her?
@Scianta
@Scianta 2 жыл бұрын
Ummm doesn't Loviatar/Lady of Pain live in Sigil?
@AJPickett
@AJPickett 2 жыл бұрын
Not the same entity
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