AK47 Kitchen build, Front Trunnion Installation with Tothtool rivet squeezer.wmv

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Darren Boyer

Darren Boyer

Күн бұрын

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@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
I loved the rivet squeezer jaws. With my rivet gun and rivet set there is always a small chance of putting a "smiley" on the rivet or the receiver if you aren't careful. I could teach my daughter to used the rivet squeezer!
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
After aligning the barrel to the rear trunnion and making sure the extractor cut is in the correct position on mark the center of the barrel on the trunnion. Then I put the barrel in my lathe and line up a cutter with that mark and I go down the barrel making marks. They all come out perfect and in line quickly. Not having a lathe, you could always eyeball it as many people do.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
One good whack with a hammer on the rivet usually dimples it enough, but the jaws seemed to do a good job pressing the metal in place. Keep in mind a flat build is only heat treated around the fcg, the rest is still annealed 4130. I couldn't have done it on a NDS receiver.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support Matt, it means a lot to me. I'm really glad a lot of guys have found these videos helpful.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
The Romanian and in this case Maadi front trunnions don't use neck swell in the front. Every front trunnion I know of uses neck swell in the back as you stated. I didn't attempt to dimple the holes intentionally. The rear neck swell rivets forced the receiver down on their own as they were flush with the receiver. I usually use my rivet gun or a hammer to dimple the receiver.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
The bolt cutters themselves are adjustable with the bolt on the side of the handles near the jaws. Loosen the one closer to the handle and tighten the other which is closer to the jaws. If you close the handles completely, the gap between the jaws should be around .150 of an inch. Hope that helps.
@nsz85
@nsz85 12 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how incredible this set of videos is going to be for me. I literally got excited when I saw how those rivets turned out. WOW...I cannot wait for the next video. KEEP THEM COMING!
@Doctorchops
@Doctorchops 12 жыл бұрын
Hope Toth gave you those tools (for "permanent T&E"); because for a man that takes his riveting so seriously that's a pretty good endorsement :D
@WestCoastFront
@WestCoastFront 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was looking for. I forgot to put that small round thing back when I was installing Toth Tool jig. Could not get the jaws to align! Back to my garage!👍
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy everyone likes this video series, these tools really make things a lot easier. When I first found Tothtool on the net I was really surprised that I had never heard of them before considering how his tools make an AK build easier than my own method I've perfected. Your welcome and don't forget to send links of the vid. to your friends!
@hdflame
@hdflame 11 жыл бұрын
I am sooo glad I found your video series. I'm picking up a Polish Underfolder tomorrow...my first kit build. It has the Nodak Spud receiver. I figured I'd go ahead and get the kit and build it sometime in the future, after I get my shop built so I'd have a press. I was really surprised and impressed with the bolt cutter rivet tool! Nice job! Now I'll be ordering the tools from Tothtool.
@MadMetalShop
@MadMetalShop 12 жыл бұрын
you can dimple a nds receiver, just takes a bit more pressure. did it on my nds for my krink build. as far as I know, flats arent heat treated period and you would want to infact heat treat all the trunion holes to keep from elongating after time from all the forces. I had to heat treat my flat build my self.
@carltruviso5081
@carltruviso5081 3 жыл бұрын
my man you deserve a medal for all your help ! thank you
@1337Tactikal
@1337Tactikal 12 жыл бұрын
I have all the toth tools to build my first AK -- I also have my Polish under-folder kit coming in the mail today... Now, all that i'm waiting on is my Nodak receiver! Thanks again ginsboy, your videos have been incredibly helpful. I went from wanting to build an AK and thinking it was impossible, to actually being able to build one. I'm promoting you all over the place lol --- Thanks again --- Matt W.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
For the cost, you can't beat these for the front trunnion.
@puro
@puro 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I tried tightening the one without the washer but didnt know I should loosen the back one too. That makes sense and should make this a lot less frustrating. Love your videos
@1337Tactikal
@1337Tactikal 12 жыл бұрын
This is just fantastic! I was concerned about how I would be riveting my first build! Your videos are so much help man! Thanks and god bless!
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
Anything even a large center punch would work your right. I like your videos by the way, fun to watch.
@ssiameseoperative9696
@ssiameseoperative9696 2 жыл бұрын
Bow dad u showd me houl tu build a ak 9 yeers ago here hee i go again
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
Most guys like to do it because they can. Some guys think they are hiding the fact they have them from the government, but I think they are already keeping tabs on us. Its fun to make things, and you can also resell the tools.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
You would need a endmill to properly form the side for the button head rivet. I've made custom rivet sets for my rivet gun, and it wasn't easy. I was glad to have my mill and lathe to do it.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
With the the set of tools he sells, you could build AK's out on top of a mountain somewhere, no power is needed. I'm really impressed.
@hdflame
@hdflame 11 жыл бұрын
I finally found the playlist. Don't know why I had such a hard time finding it?? Anyway, great videos. I have it saved now so I can find it when I start my build!
@sttvoyager1727
@sttvoyager1727 8 жыл бұрын
Wow I just found your channel. You are a born teacher. I'm certain you are going to help many with your videos. Subscribed!!!
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
I just had to get my homebuilt AK74 sidefolder out to look. The forward most rivet can easily be access through the mag. well, and the rear most rivet can easily be done, the middle rivet will take a little careful modification. Perhaps set a small piece of steel on the head of the middle rivet since it is recessed in the rail.
@GamersBar
@GamersBar 12 жыл бұрын
im 31 seconds in , but im sure its safe to say always a pleasure watching a master craftsman at work
@makun16
@makun16 12 жыл бұрын
I'm liking where you are going with this series. I am impressed with how well the jaws are working. I have always used the shop press method with the riveting jig. I am curious how you will press the barrel in without a press. In the best, I have used the thread rod method and it has worked quite well. You just have to constantly remove the fixture for head space when you get close.
@Duckyistrippin
@Duckyistrippin 12 жыл бұрын
Yes. they still need to be dimpled. Most builders who use a squeezer like this will take the stock jaws and make then hold a BB that can be used to make the dimple. I finally bit the bullet and got the ak builder rivet jig. I have tried every other possible solution. Any way around it you still need a press to do the trigger guard, or a big freakin hammer :)
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
Using a NDS receiver, its going to be very difficult to dimple them s the entire shell is hardened. I wouldn't worry a bit if I was unable to dimple the holes. When backing up the trunnion I am able to force the neckswell rivets to form their own dimple with my rivet gun setup.
@sirjordanpowers
@sirjordanpowers 11 жыл бұрын
The bolt cutters are about $15 a little bench grinder is about $30. How difficult would it be to modify the jaws you already have?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
Everything was separate, never thought of asking for a combined deal. I did put them in order on my playlists page, sorry for the inconvenience.
@MadMetalShop
@MadMetalShop 12 жыл бұрын
Very nice tool. Looked like it might work better than my rivet squasher. Those holes didn't need to be dimpled first? Usually the front and back rivets are swell neck rivets with a taper under the head.
@80spodcastchannel
@80spodcastchannel 12 жыл бұрын
Great tool brother for when you need to build and dont have power for an air compressor. Thanks for showing us this Seeya Dude
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
You could use a punch and a hammer to dimple the holes, its really pretty easy.
@ehal2303
@ehal2303 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for all the in depth videos you make man. I'm learning to build off your vids and nothing more lol. doing a m72 right now.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 7 жыл бұрын
Glad the videos help.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
It could, but having done a few screw builds, I'd have to say the best way is to do a rivet build. Its kinda hard to drill and tap the front trunnion with the barrel in place. I've also spent half a day trying to remove a broken tap from a rear trunnion. Rivet builds are easier. Remember the tooling you buy you can always sell to other like minded guys.
@CMLovejoy
@CMLovejoy 12 жыл бұрын
would it be easier to do a screw build if people can't afford the toth kit?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
The video for that is coming.
@hdflame
@hdflame 11 жыл бұрын
One question and one suggestion. First, did they have a complete tool kit at a reduced price or did you just have to order everything separately? Secondly, it would have been nice to number all of this series to make it easier to view in order. Other than that, GREAT VIDEO SERIES!
@nerminokanovic4269
@nerminokanovic4269 15 күн бұрын
How much of space needs to be between the javs? I just installed the tool and I was wondering if they need to be flushed or some space
@matthewlemon2832
@matthewlemon2832 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making your vids. Everyone has built a AR or 1911 but there is surprisingly little info on AK type weapons. Would love to see you drift into uzi's and the like. Kepp up the great info and work. Make it so easy everyone can own a AK
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 7 жыл бұрын
Google the MAC 11 pdfs. MACs are super simple and can be made 100% from scratch with no mill or lathe.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 7 жыл бұрын
I think I will do that. Haven't given them much thought. If you can build one for less than you can buy one I might just build one.
@lordperezident
@lordperezident 6 жыл бұрын
@@ginsboy2003 have you considered building one yet? You would get lots of views seeing as their is virtually no videos of MAC/Uzis being built! Would love to see your instructions regarding the process to make it happen :)
@nathanhostetler6950
@nathanhostetler6950 10 жыл бұрын
If you were only going to buy one of the toth tools, which one is the most important?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 10 жыл бұрын
Thats hard to say. I mean, if you didn't have any tools, eventually you would need them all or you wouldn't complete the build. The front trunnion rivet squeezer jaws are great and if you are building an underfolder you could use them on it as well.
@officedullard8722
@officedullard8722 11 ай бұрын
Wait, I'm confused. Didn't look like he dimpled the rivets. Do those two back rivets with the rounded heads dimple themselves when pressing?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
Just the front trunnion. It can do half the rivets in a rear underfolder trunnion without modification.
@jamesboaz4787
@jamesboaz4787 4 жыл бұрын
Why does he sand the finnish off around the rivet holes?
@WestCoastFront
@WestCoastFront 4 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend using to dimple the receiver with? Don't have a press also.
@hdflame
@hdflame 11 жыл бұрын
I have looked for your playlist but can't find it. Could you please post a link to the playlist? Sorry for being blind! lol
@notsoslo61
@notsoslo61 12 жыл бұрын
Great vid. strait to the point. how do u do the rear trunnion rivets on a amd65?
@bammiracle4192
@bammiracle4192 Жыл бұрын
so is it even necessary to dimple the receiver? I ask because my first build I didn't dimple and I've been worried about it. how many rounds do you have through the gun now?
@adamrat3597
@adamrat3597 2 ай бұрын
i know this video is from 12 years ago but do you drill out the holes in your receiver by yourself? if so how do you do it. or do you have an ffl and order the receivers yourself or to a vendor?
@WestCoastFront
@WestCoastFront 4 жыл бұрын
Having a hard time aligning the Toth Tool jaws. They are not closing right, off alignment? I have a 24inch breaker bar, does that make a difference?
@gaugeblockjenga
@gaugeblockjenga 11 жыл бұрын
I am tempted to weld my front trunnion but there is no compression and it just isn't the same. After watching this I believe I will just pick one of these up and do it right the first time.
@byangAR15
@byangAR15 11 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to get the rivets on the ak receiver done with just the bolt cutter method?
@Julius44bc
@Julius44bc 12 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. This is one of my favorite channels.
@robmoenz
@robmoenz 10 жыл бұрын
First of all I want to thank you for the informative videos. Looking at your second rivet, notice the receiver is not tight on that side to your trunnion. I've heard from the masters that the receiver should be tight on both sides and square. Were you able to sight it in without cantering your front sight? Thanks again.
@britbentley6018
@britbentley6018 7 ай бұрын
Hello. I've been watching your build videos. I'm bout to start tooling up fo ther my first build. Still recommend Toft tools above all others? Also recommend anything they don't have? Thanks for your help!
@mmatousek3887
@mmatousek3887 5 жыл бұрын
gins try one handle of bolt cutters into jaws of a large vise better control and easy to squish rivets
@Solingen1000
@Solingen1000 11 жыл бұрын
how do you get the gas block..rear sight and front sight perfectly straight on a virgin barrel?
@MadMetalShop
@MadMetalShop 12 жыл бұрын
i think i used whatever was laying around that had a point and pressed it into the hole.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
I got the 24 inch bolt cutters from Harbor freight and used a 20% off coupon to get them for $11. The rivet squeezer jaws are on Tothtool dot kom. I can't put the exact web address in this post, youtube rules ya know.
@gaugeblockjenga
@gaugeblockjenga 11 жыл бұрын
Will it reach the 3 rivets typically used to attach scope rails to the receiver?
@ericscuderi
@ericscuderi 11 жыл бұрын
I dont have sound. can this be used for all of most of the rivets? or the the front trunnion?
@trevorwray
@trevorwray 11 жыл бұрын
So these jaws can be used for rear trunnion/folder on AKMS underfolders? Thanks
@MarkBlaze
@MarkBlaze 11 жыл бұрын
Just curious did you dimple your receiver hole where the swell neck rivets go? I have read alot of mixed things about haveing to dimple these before riveting. Also read that there is no need for doing this just wanted your thoughts on this. I'm using and NDS-1 EZ. Thanks for any replies.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
Well, you won't be able to get the rear rivets or the center support rivet.
@TWISTEDSTRINGS69
@TWISTEDSTRINGS69 8 жыл бұрын
I really like your "down to earth videos". I`m about to rivet in my trunnion today or tomorrow so I don`t think you`ll see this till after I do it but just in case you do .. Did you make any gap adjustments to the jaws after installation or did you just go ahead and rivet ? Was your receiver already dimpled ? I`m trying a 1/4" ball bearing using the Toth jaws to try and dimple my receiver, was wondering if you ever tried that method ?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 8 жыл бұрын
+TWISTEDSTRINGS69 Sometimes it best to check the size of the rivet tail before completely squeezing it with the jaws, if they are adjusted too close, you don't want it flat. I've never used the ball bearing method you described, but it does sound like a great idea. Glad you like the videos, they are more work than people might expect.
@puro
@puro 11 жыл бұрын
Hey ginsboy2003, great video series! I'm doing my first build and I'm having problems with the toth tool rivet jaws. They don't squeeze the tail of the rivet inside the trunnion fully and it's leaving the tail sticking out into the barrel space. Just wondering if you had any tips on how I can get the rivet squeezed all the way.
@bigpapablu
@bigpapablu 12 жыл бұрын
I hope Toth give you some comission on this tool... Now I've gotta get one! Great Vid man
@Txdartaholic
@Txdartaholic 12 жыл бұрын
Would this also work for installing the optics rail?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 12 жыл бұрын
Yes, you should where needed.
@andreanoname77
@andreanoname77 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of bolt cutters do you have in this video because I bought a pair of HDX 24 inch bolt cutters and they don't have the center piece in it I need to know the right ones to buy.
@Travitanium
@Travitanium 12 жыл бұрын
Dang that looks easy, maybe I'll do it that way ondtead of the rivet gun.
@MadMetalShop
@MadMetalShop 12 жыл бұрын
good to hear brotha! I do like to have fun.
@BlazerBrass
@BlazerBrass 6 жыл бұрын
There is a hole located at the bottom of the receiver beneath the front trunnion. What is this for? I noticed you did not place a rivet in this hole.
@lordperezident
@lordperezident 6 жыл бұрын
I believe it's for the automatic sear
@never2late454
@never2late454 4 жыл бұрын
The bolts on the side plates of the new 24 inch bolt cutters from Harbor Freight are press in bolts. Unfortunately the side plates that come with the rivet Jaws are threaded and won't work with the new bolt cutters Harbor Freight now is selling. After not being able to get an answer from Toth tool's I'm now having to modify the plates that came with the bolt cutters so it will work. The new version of cutters also don't bolt spacers in the jaw's.
@timduffy3685
@timduffy3685 8 жыл бұрын
is there a Video you did for heat Treating the Receiver
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 8 жыл бұрын
+Tim Duffy I did that on a different video but this is how I did it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/moqQiaiGepiDmbM
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 8 жыл бұрын
+Tim Duffy With this receiver being a Nodak receiver heat treat on it wasn't needed.
@Panzerkopf
@Panzerkopf 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I found it really interesting!
@KilliaKid
@KilliaKid 12 жыл бұрын
where can i get them ?
@israelcolon6745
@israelcolon6745 8 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use this tool to install a side rail? Looking to do a kitchen build but havent come across a side rail solution yet.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 8 жыл бұрын
Depends on which rail you use. Some rails use one rivet in the rear trunnion and they pickup the center support rivet. If the rail you use doesn't use either or you place it so it doesn't, you might be able to do it. The problem will be the lower guide rails will possibly get in the way. So basically, I'd say it will be difficult to.
@israelcolon6745
@israelcolon6745 8 жыл бұрын
I have a romanian/polish styled rail. Does that use center support rivet?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know.
@dminor214
@dminor214 12 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the other vids
@myfavoritedemise
@myfavoritedemise 9 жыл бұрын
Did you use this same rivet squeezer for all of the rivets? Rear trunion, trigger guard, and long rivet? Thanks in advance, loving all of your tutorials.
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 9 жыл бұрын
+myfavoritedemise You can only use it for the front trunnion and rear trunnion if its an underfolder.
@myfavoritedemise
@myfavoritedemise 9 жыл бұрын
+ginsboy2003 Thanks for the quick reply. Again your videos are great, please keep it up.
@ZombieMasterEd25
@ZombieMasterEd25 9 жыл бұрын
how hard is the squeeze using this do you havto to be real strong or can anyone use this method?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 9 жыл бұрын
+ZombieMasterEd25 With the correct handles, its not that hard, my skinny 15 yr old could do it.
@crabsfree
@crabsfree 8 жыл бұрын
What receiver are you using?
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 8 жыл бұрын
+crabsfree A nodak spud receiver.
@jdmcommute
@jdmcommute 12 жыл бұрын
Badass!! Im getting a tool set!
@notsoslo61
@notsoslo61 12 жыл бұрын
thanks for quick replay jim
@CMLovejoy
@CMLovejoy 12 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for all the great information.
@vonwolly2
@vonwolly2 12 жыл бұрын
You're awesome thank you for your videos
@cobraman115
@cobraman115 11 жыл бұрын
Some guys will also invest in a more expensive complete receiver so that they can sell them.
@momoKoh3
@momoKoh3 11 жыл бұрын
HK r all stamped receiver, and welded. youtube that shit, i just saw "AK weld" you will lose "AK look" but will work, and looks clean.
@Amp497
@Amp497 9 жыл бұрын
The Toth tool will not countersink rivets for you. You did not explain this in your first barrel trunnion riveting video. I believe you corrected this in a later video, but that was a bit late for those who followed your first video and had countersink rivets sticking out above the surface of the receiver. That includes me. So, I got to drill out some rivets and start over. You must use appropriate tools and procedures to seat the rivet. Once it sits countersunk completely, then you can use the Toth jaws to press the rivet shank. Also, it is really stupid to try to countersink the rivet by hitting it with a hammer. It does not work, and the point is to get a factory look.
@AB3385ab
@AB3385ab 7 жыл бұрын
Amp Amp Thanks so much for the heads up!
@AngelSilverFourtySeven
@AngelSilverFourtySeven 11 жыл бұрын
Nicely done ...
@MadMetalShop
@MadMetalShop 12 жыл бұрын
I know how and where. dont remember seeing it in this vid.
@austin3538
@austin3538 12 жыл бұрын
nice work
@neglectfulsausage7689
@neglectfulsausage7689 6 ай бұрын
Back up all your videos today. KZbin is coming for your content. You need to diversify and put it your library on odysee
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
Check out my latest vid. I made a slight mod to the jaws and can get all but one of the rivets on a Polish underfolder rear trunnion!
@Blizzhobbs
@Blizzhobbs 11 жыл бұрын
So what is the point in doing this? Seeing as how you will only get your value back if you build multiple rifles, and seeing how it is illegal to sell the ones you built unless you are a manufacturer. Of course selling maybe one or two of ones you built is fine, but obviously you can't just go out and build rifles with the intention of selling them legally. Or can you? I'm in Texas btw
@cesilio
@cesilio 12 жыл бұрын
Wow
@RAIDER8388
@RAIDER8388 7 жыл бұрын
$75 for a modified bolt cutter vs a $200 press and a $300 rivet jig....hmmmm
@rerejinglefish
@rerejinglefish 9 жыл бұрын
metric > and i live in us
@ginsboy2003
@ginsboy2003 11 жыл бұрын
No sir, you can't.
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