Alec Baldwin "Rust" Movie Set Shooting Update | Could Those Involved Be Charged with Manslaughter?

[@Ona1979]

I grew up around guns. I was taught to always assume that the gun is loaded and not to allow it to be aimed at a person at any time under any circumstances. I think that is too dangerous to use real, functioning guns as props for movies. Live ammunition shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near the set, where a functional gun is being used as a prop. The person in charge of the gun should have visually checked that the gun wasn't loaded. If blanks were being used, the person who was in charge of the guns should have inspected anything loaded into the gun, before passing it to the actor. There is no excuse for what happened. It could have easily been prevented.

[@pulaski1]

I agree with everything you said, and have known since at least when I was a teenager about the safety protocols you described .... despite growing up in a home completely free from guns, and in a country where guns in private ownership are rare. Given my experience I am astounded at the ignorance about gun safety of all the _Americans_ on the Rust movie set.

[@orphan124]

Any actor handling a firearm should be required to take basic firearms training. Hard lesson in this case.

[@s-w]

The person pulling the trigger is responsible for what's loaded in the firearm as long as the ammunition fires as intended.

[@mamesmck5236]

I'm from a country where guns are really rare too. I have never needed to learn gun safety, I hope I'm never in a position where I do. I honestly don't think Alec Baldwin is at fault in this situation. It's not his job to check to the gun, that's why there are two people on set who's responsibility is to lool after the guns... I agree that ammunition shouldn't need to be used movies, its so awful. How do you get over your wife or mothers needless death? Just awful.

[@tomservo5007]

@@s-w on a movie set, there are experts to do just THAT.

[@peterlightning9235]

From the sound of it, Dr. Grande knows more about firearm safety and being an armourer than the people working on the set of Rust.

[@SalisburySnake]

Virtually everyone who's ever fired a slingshot knows more about firearm safety and being an armorer than the people working on the set of Rust.

[@Sue_Me_Too]

Yeah, that's not really a high bar...

[@christineolivia8730]

She sure did.

[@lindalai9092]

lol

[@Puppy_Puppington]

@@SalisburySnake you took the words from my mouth

[@sarahpriddy3720]

I really appreciate the way you not only analyze the question at hand but take the time during your analysis to educate about the topic as well. Thank you for your thoughts and information.

[@genoaroseb.1705]

Very informative on this very tragic situation. It is obvious that negligence was involved. Tragic.

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

I think that it was Dave Halls. He wanted to smear Alec Baldwin

[@tonymmm2850]

Check the finger print on the empty shell,

[@christinecornezcolmenero9356]

Dr. Grande is the hardest working Utuber . Informative objective and always interesting.

[@rickzuckerman1325]

PLEASE LISTEN TO ME! NO I AM NOT PERFECT, NONE OF US EVEN CAN BE! YET AS FAR AS ‘ LIVE AMMO’, LET ME VERY CLEAR ON THIS ISSUE,’ THERE IS ZERO/NADA/NO REASON AT ALL WHATSOVER FOR ANY AT ALL LIVE AMMUNITION BEING PHYSICALLY ON ANY ‘ MOVIE SET’, WHICH IS A NON- REALITY SETTING, A MOVIE OR A TELEVISION SHOW! THIS IS NOT EVEN UP FOR ARGUMENT! HOW AM I SO AN EXPERT ON THE ABOVE MENTIONED WORDS? FIRST OF ALL, I CERTAINLY AM ‘ NOT AN EXPERT ON MILLIONS OF ENTITIES IN THIS WORLD’, YET ON THIS SO SPECIFIC SUBJECT, I AM AN EXPERT ON ‘ LIVE AMMUNITION’, YET HOW? I AM SO A RETIRED US MARINE , 25 YEARS OF ACTIVE DUTY, FOUGHT IN VIETNAM, ON THE GROUND, I WAS AND ALWAYS WAS A ‘ GRUNT’, AKA INFANTRY AND LEADER! PLUS FIGHTING THE NORTH VIETNAMESE ARMY SOLDIERS FOR 13 MONTHS, 1967 TO 1968, ‘ AND ALSO SO UNABLE TO DUCK ( OK LOL!) I WAS SO WOUNDED 3 SEPARATE TIMES IN HORRIFIC CLOSE AND HORRENDOUS COMBAT AGAINST NVA SOLDIERS ( YET I AM NO HERO!), SO I DO IN FACT KNOW ‘ WHEN WHERE WHY AND HOW’ TO SO USE ‘ LIVE AMMUNITION’! THUS, PLS DO NOT ‘ POUR VINEGAR INTO MY EAR, AND THEN TELL ME IT IS RAINING’! THE POINT? I ALREADY MADE IT! SO MANY ‘ APOLOGISTS’ EITHER ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR ON BROADCAST TV DOIN THEIR UTMOST TO ‘ DIS EXPLAIN THE KILLING OF A FEMALE MOM PHOTOGRAPHER AND THE WOUNDING OF AN ASST DIRECTOR’, AS IF USING SO MANY IGNORANT REASONS HOW ‘ LIVE ROUND SOMEHOW WAS IN THAT GUN’! AGAIN, ‘ LIVE ROUND ON A MOVIE SET’, THE PURPOSE SO BEING, AH, WHAT? THERE WAS ZERO PURPOSE FOR ANY LIVE AMMO BEING ON A NON COMBAT MOVIE SET! PERIOD! CONCLUDED! NEXT! THOSE WHO KNOW ‘ NOTHING’ WILL AND MUST MAKE ANY ASININE EXCUSE! YOU CANNOT WHATSOEVER REFUTE NOT A WORD WHICH I HAVE SO SAID, FOR MY BODY STILL TODAY FEELS THE PAINS, YES IT SO DOES, OF 3 BAD WOUNDS IN VIETNAM!

[@JE551E_JAME5]

I am a certified instructor/RSO and I am also a videographer. I exist simultaneously in two very different worlds, and this conversation has come up a lot at work. I am very impressed with how knowledgeable you are on both these subjects, and how pragmatic and dispassionate your analysis is. Very well done.

[@faraha2285]

This is so good! Thanks Dr Grande! How about a video about his wife's acting since this incident? Her social media presence and how she’s making it all about herself, their Halloween pictures the same day of the funeral, her acting up in that roadside interview etc.

[@kathyclark8274]

From day one, Hilaria's avarice and reasons for marrying AB have been abundantly clear. It's all about ME! She reminds me way too much of Meghan Markle.

[@darlenealessio7609]

Something is amiss, I thought that was for the kids maybe, the stress for them the eldest must be aweful. Then again I don't understand her most recent characterization of her husband as she gives past details regarding how "he shush her when in labor. Another was instagram video of her and children outside on a step it appears he feet ahead laying on ground. One child back between her and him I didn't understand that sarcasm on his demeanor or attitude?

[@nhmooytis7058]

You mean faux Spanish señora Hilarious? 😅

[@mcc1483]

That is something that struck me too; his wife was posting daily on their wonderful life, and children and then her pregnancy w newest baby, in the midst of this tragedy. It struck me as so insensitive while a young boy, an only child was grieving the loss of his mother in this way.

[@a.m2707]

It's official; Dr. Grande does not sleep. He spends 24 hours researching, writing, producing and filming 😭❤🙏

[@mrcalderon93]

Hes a Android

[@megara4068]

I wonder if he changes his shirt between videos to create the illusion that he isn't shooting multiple videos in one day. ;) We all love your shirt, Dr. Grande! (And your sense of humor, and your insight, and your opening lines, and your cacti...)

[@diamondleigh7280]

It's a good thing ❤️.... I love that about him.... By keeping yourself busy, there's no time for negative thinking or being lazy..... Go Doc Grand ❤️♦️❤️♦️♦️❤️ ‼️! Keep Rockin it Out🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽😏😝

[@Raventooth]

I actually noticed he is sleeping while he is making the videos then he just CGI's his eyes open and mouth moving.

[@breewixom6179]

Absolutely right, I was thinking the same thing!! I can't imagine how much time goes into these videos--he thoroughly researches these topics and delivers it in such a concise way. Honestly, if I could be that productive...

[@susie2366]

I was a principal of a beautiful old school which was used as a location for at least a hundred films of various types (commercials, PSAs, television shows, movies, etc.) during my time there. The difference between a professional film crew and those individuals involved in a low budget film is unbelievably stark. With a professional film crew everything runs like clockwork, our school was treated with a high degree of respect and they unfailingly held to every aspect of our agreements. My experience with a low budget film crew was horrible. The producer and director failed to communicate with me, routinely lied about their schedules and their need for space, made unreasonable demands and seemed to lose all control over their crew members. They were as self important as they were untrustworthy. I’m not sure how we got through that summer. It was an absolute nightmare.

[@Throatzillaaa]

Aside from having to deal with (hopefully) just a few extremely unprofessional crews, this sounds like it was probably amazing for the most part!

[@scruffy4647]

Dealing with professional people in all walks of life is the holy grail of interaction with business transactions.

[@bionicpuma2920]

Susie - as one of those low budget directors, it might behoove you look at us as teenager slackers with our heart in the right place, but with too many Murphy's Laws against us. Also, low budget films, by nature, rely on crews with sloppy or non-existent loyalties to the production which is why you described the clusterf--k situation you had. It's just a by-product of the circumstances and nothing you should take personally.

[@holmes5517]

Just as I said in another comment 'low budget'

[@StevenCarinci]

It was only a low budget film because the producers (Baldwin et al.) made the decision to cut costs by jettisoning IATSE, the union armorer. The defense of the replacement armorer, Reed, was that she was asked to work props as well, WHICH SHE WAS! which was why she wasn't at the scene and did not hand Baldwin the gun. Of all people asked to do double duty the armorer should be the last; couldn't they ask the make-up person to do props, at least that would not have resulted in a death. My conclusion is that with all the red flags (accidental shootings etc.) regarding gun safety and the repeated warnings by the IATSE crew members the final culpability will come down to the producers who should be charged with CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE for failing to heed extremely clear warnings.

[@gj4257]

I take comfort in the fact that there are at least 900K people in the world who enjoy wholesome and brilliant educational content put out by Dr. G. This is hands down the best channel on youtube.

[@justintime1343]

Have you seen "Jim Can't Swim"? They're not as prolific as Grande, but I like 'em more.

[@paulabuck5976]

True. And, Dr. G is extremely hardworking too! He’s earned our patronage & respect!

[@thealexanderbond]

lol. you haven't even seen 1% of all the channels on YT.

[@cuda861]

The way you described the difference between a Colt single action style revolver and a more modern double action revolver was flawless. It's an important detail people need to understand imo.

[@skinwolf]

Dang! I gotta say Dr. Grande’s videos are freakin impressive! I’ve been a professional stunt man for a good 30+ years now. And I literally have nothing to add to this video. He is absolutely spot on. Amazing video! 👍🏽

[@nikm2089]

I find Mr. Grande’s knowledge of firearms to be respectable and impressive.

[@s8bre101]

I’m convinced at this point he’s a enthusiast

[@Firebrand1967]

Grande most def is a strapped shrink.

[@user-ic9qm8mb4t]

Nik M That's probably because he owns firearms, but some people don't, and have no need to know about them.

[@emizerri]

Same, he also showed up how knowledge in the Las Vegas shooting video. I was really impressed.

[@shantoreywilkins651]

🎯

[@synchro505]

This is the most concise and detailed analysis I've seen thus far involving this case. Thank you Dr. Grande.

[@dub2536]

Agreed. I finally had multiple questions answered regarding the firearm used. RIP to the fallen.

[@dub2536]

@@BaronSaturday66 Any intelligent man does! IMO!

[@grindingdeviance1864]

Last month, I participated in an indie horror film short. Even with 20 or less of us filming out of the producer's apartment and no functional weapons, we STILL had better safety precautions and 'double checks' than this production. So tragic and so avoidable!

[@romanov509]

I’d bet that if the script called for Baldwin to put the gun to HIS ahead and pull the trigger, he would have checked it first…….

[@INeverMetaphorIDidntLike]

oh wow... this comment made me take a REALLY deep breath... i feel like this sums up so much human behavior. great observation.

[@mariasperdini2997]

One would hope with these supremacists hollyweirders u never know

[@SobrietyandSolace]

That right there is a point no one can argue with!

[@optimusprime3484]

Check mate

[@juliefisk8066]

Can not agree with you anymore! For someone who screams about guns and gun safety one would think, he'd know better. Things that make you go hmm...

[@kirri1312]

The one thing that hasn’t been addressed is that all guns, whether fake or real, are supposed to be locked up on a movie set. Fake treated as if they are real. How could the cast take real ammunition for a day of fun on set? They shouldn’t even have had access to the guns used on set. So many questions…..

[@juliefisk8066]

Not to mention that real ammunition is never, EVER allowed on a movie set. Let's also ask ourselves why Baldwin allowed such a practice on his set. It seems his hypocrisy is now biting him in his a$$. If this was anyone, ANYONE else he'd be demanding answers and set shut downs.

[@tylerchambers6246]

@@juliefisk8066 And why does he say that the idea a live round could have made it to the gun was unthinkable to him? Dude you were shooting live rounds with it for fun for like an hour with the armorer.

[@tessaducek5601]

He stated they were in a safe. Probably not locked though. I wonder which production people used the guns for target shooting.

[@kirri1312]

@@tessaducek5601 The whole thing stinks!!

[@bluemonday7054]

Finally a well organized and coherent summation of the facts available in this tragic case. Thanks so much Dr Grande for your work here and always. 🙏

[@tracyhaverstick5672]

The there have been actual experts that do this for a living giving even better detailed explanations and histories on this subject.

[@onenorm1]

It is not a summation of the facts. Mostly speculation.

[@tracyhaverstick5672]

@@JesusSavesSinners No he's not. He was acting. That job goes to the gun wrangler or armorer. Not actors. And his name is Alec Baldwin.

[@heleneocleary5888]

@@tracyhaverstick5672 Yes Tracy. If I were Alec Baldwin I might also be in major trouble now. I’m inclined to assume that people do their jobs. So the MAIN job of the amorer was to ensure the weapons were safe and operable. It’s very strange that the weapon wasn’t checked. I think Alec Baldwin is innocent of any culpability.

[@tracyhaverstick5672]

@@heleneocleary5888 The very same weapon had misfired twice with Alec Baldwin's stunt double that previous Saturday to the tradgedy. But it was not made known to tje proper people. I appreciate you standing for what's true. I am very upset with the media and the people on social media that are making assumptions, telling out right lies (like the jerk saying Alec was having an affair with this poor woman (a wife and young mother) that killed her to silence her and anyone else talking out of their asses when they know absolutely nothing factual. My son is graduating from Webster University this spring with his BA in Communications, Broadcasting, Film and Television. He came to his father and I with extreme sadness over what happened and told us to watch how ugly, ignorant and ill-informed people would be about it before any facts were released. Sure enough, Fox News and OAN were the first to come out with the nastiest comments and so called reporting. It was all wrong and tied right to Alec's portrayal of Trump on SNL. People need to take a long look in the mirror and accept what would happen to them, God forbid, something happened that put them in the lime light. We should all have caring and compassion for all involved. Especially for her husband and young child that will mever know how amazing his mommy was. Apparently, she was a true talent and rising star. Sire, people can show her child pictutes and say wonderful things. But tjat doesn't replace his mommy being there for all life's precious moments. Again, thank you for being one of the good guys.

[@judyi.7015]

I feel you covered a sensitive topic very well, twice! Your conclusions today made perfect sense to me. With the ability to produce sound effects with a realistic tone, there is absolutely no reason to have guns loaded with anything at all on set, IMHO.

[@63DW89A]

Agree completely that LIVE rounds should NEVER be on set at ANY time. However, blanks would still be required on set much of the time because there are certain physical things that even that best CGI cannot duplicate. For example, in a World War II movie automatic weapons have to use blanks for the weapon to physically function properly, allowing the actor's movement to properly follow the weapon action. Simply cannot be done with CGI. For actual live bullet impact scenes, the highest quality cinematography would be to film at a distant gun range and then edit the actual bullet impact scenes into the movie, plus being much safer too.

[@KyleCowden]

Okay, days later and this is only the second discussion where the presenter has knowledge of and uses the correct terminology concerning the weapon(s) and how things function. Refreshing.

[@Sue_Me_Too]

Crazy how many people still think the gun had a swing out cylinder. I had one dude try to tell me you can't see the primers in the cylinder of an SA revolver. Like dude, you open the loading gate and look...

[@markuswx1322]

@@Sue_Me_Too True, and that's one reason why I think Dr. Grande is a 90 minute wonder on the subject. He was simply describing the weapon as laid out in any secondary source like Wikipedia. He was talking about irrelevancies like the ejector rod, for example. He didn't mention the most important issue, which you just detailed above. A number of armorers and prop masters have explained how the piece is shown to be clear, and the most significant part of that is that it is done just prior to being handled by the performer.

[@frankpaya690]

@@Sue_Me_Too Or you could remove the cylinder pin after opening the gate and lift the cylinder out look at it and then set it back in and replace the PIN.

[@4nsk]

As a former firearms technician with law enforcement I fully appreciate your clarity and accuracy regarding firearm terminology. Well done.

[@r.lee1989]

i do agree that alec baldwin, as an actor, may not be at fault. but as a producer, he is totally responsible for safety on set

[@bethberisford8165]

They were rushing through this movie and tried to make it on the "Cheap." "Haste makes waste."

[@RunningInLondon]

Two in one day? Such a treat! I love your shirt! Love from Canada!

[@cindyhammack68]

It's funny everytime I see a new video of his, the first thing I do is judge his shirt. Don't know why. But, yeah, this one definitely seems like he widened his fashion bubble a bit. Good look on him!

[@jamessatter7418]

Just a reminder, I am not diagnosing Dr. Grande's shirt, merely speculating what could be happening with a shirt like his.

[@Robin-xt7yo]

@@crochunter35 LOL. I love this shirt. My fave of the doc's so far.

[@rando42069]

My takeaway: So whoever was reportedly stalking the doctor or his wife, please take note of how well he knows firearms.

[@annal7364]

No kidding! But hey, at least the stalker offered to bring back a piece of pizza for Dr. and Mrs. G after they provided directions to the pizza parlor. I told Dr. G that his wife should have given the guy directions to Doc's video, "How to Appear Less Creepy". 😂

[@michaelpalmer1580]

Doc is carrying a hot one!😁

[@dollybelfiore7628]

I think the stalker had something to do with the guns being left unlocked.

[@kirankaur5056]

Wait...what stalker?!

[@eriklarson9137]

Can you not see him reading?

[@pou618]

My question has always been "Why does a prop gun ever have a live round in it?" Anti-gunners are always blaming the gun. But a person that respects firearms would never have let this happen.

[@terry4137]

Alex is a nut job anyway. Funny, how he made fun of others who had accidents. Fool!

[@magmasunburst9331]

Because many people are extremely arrogant and they like to think that they are totally in control of reality and themselves. They think they can't make mistakes. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. It's easy to see. Like Ecclesiastes says vanity of vanity all is vanity.

[@ChairYogaForTheAgeless]

There is the problem. The gun does not fire itself . It relies on the operator being of sound mind and judgement . No reason to have any real guns on a movie set. A replica that will not accept real bullets is way over do and should have been mandated the last time this happened, but here we are.

[@obsidiansands]

@Superb Media Content Creator I would have to disagree. The verbiage of what a "prop" is, is always murky unless strictly specified. A clear definition of what a prop normally is - is something that is basically nonfunctioning. As in has ZERO internal parts. Some of the "props" that have zero functioning parts (and that includes swords, guns, "explosives", etc) will always be "dummies" - as in made from rubber, latex, etc. They're made to fool even the camera in some quick shot scenes. "HERO PROPS" are 50/50 in that they are cleverly made fakes with actual internals, but cannot "FIRE". "Hero" labeled prop items such as guns, swords, etc. are almost 1v1 repros of the real thing - some are wired to spew fire, but nothing comes out. Dummy bullets with only the shell casing loaded will NOT fire at all, just primed with black power to create smoke - they're basically cap guns. The problem is that some productions do shit on the cheap because those kinds of "props" are expensive AF - and they more often substitute it with an actual item because 8 times out of 10, the real deal is effing cheaper than a fake. This is why tragedies like this happen. Props aside, the only other real problem on that set is clear communication and lack of stringent safety protocols. John Schneider on his KZbin channel describes EXACTLY the protocol that should've been done on set - but was clearly LACKING on Rust. I've been on some indie film shoots in LA, and any time a weapon is on-set, it's kept under lock and key by the prop master until it's to be used (both ammo and weapons are IN SEPARATE CONTAINERS, never together). The prop master then double checks and triple checks the breaches of each weapon - nothing in the mag, and nothing in the pipe. Anything that goes into the mag and the pipe are to be scrutinized and test-fired by the prop master, by the director/AD, and by the actor to prove that they are duds. The idiot prop master in Rust clearly eschewed every single safety protocols they needed to do. Nothing was checked, double-checked, and triple-checked when someone handed Baldwin a "hot" prop. The fact that the cops allegedly found spent "live shells" on set is another hint that on-set safety protocols were about as non-existent as an invisible bloody tampon.

[@jhowardsupporter]

@@jaycockerille3227 They already said some people there were unhappy. So I'm guessing they put live rounds in. But regardless these people are rich and it is wrong to charge rich people.

[@bella61567]

Interesting perspective. I am a gun owner and have had extensive training and we are taught to treat every weapon as loaded and to check it yourself. Yes the movie set brings a strange set of circumstances in terms of whose job was what but I believe the law states that if you pick up a weapon you are responsible for it!

[@KevinStClair-ln5ir]

Sounds like 3 people should be held accountable and charged with involuntary manslaughter.

[@dankodde6721]

True but probably won't happen. Especially not baldwin

[@EricaFDP]

Excellent analysis as always, Dr. Grande. As someone who is not a fan of guns in general, I appreciate your opinion in what might be happening in a case like this.

[@dorcaskerr6384]

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[@eltwilli]

@@dorcaskerr6384 iiii

[@cylersmiley5259]

Guns are great

[@teamcougars]

This is a great example of why I was raised to never point a gun even an unloaded gun at anything you don’t plan to kill that person.

[@meimei51793]

This is what i keep saying. Using a real gun in the first place is where they went wrong. Theres more than enough skill and technolgy that a prop gun could be made to look real. Im shocked that real guns would be used on a set at this point in time

[@pineapplesyumyum]

I actually never bought my children toy guns because guns aren’t toys .. all the other parents thought I was weird.

[@Sarah-pq8kj]

@@meimei51793 No doubt. Seems crazy to use real guns. My dad taught me with a bb gun. He was extremely serious about the rules that were to be followed lest you're cruising for a bruising.

[@pepelemoko01]

@@meimei51793 In the military 1 These days with moulded resin prop firearms and CGI, it seems crazy to use a real firearm.

[@simonw1313]

Clearly that's not possible in a film where you're directed to point it, in this case, at a camera (operated by a human) which is why they have an Armourer and a 1st Director with responsibilities to ensure that a cold gun is a cold gun before it's passed to the actor. On the basis of current information it appears neither of those two appreciated the seriousness of their responsibilities or carried them out with the needed diligence.

[@penelopehughes-jones5265]

Dr Grande, your expertise knows no bounds. You're someone people instantly trust the wisdom of, that's a very rare thing. In particular, your knowledge of firearms, the world of movies and all manner of vehicles, in addition to your psychological expertise is hugely impressive. Add the dryest humour and its easy to see why your channel is so successful and that's before you factor in your unrivalled work ethic. Your family must be very proud of you, please thank them for allowing us to have you in our lives too, we really are blessed for it. Bless you all and thank you so very much. 🙏😊🙏

[@stevenappleton7048]

I think most things about the case will turn out like Dr. Grande says. He is very knowledgeable.

[@budster4868]

Sounds like so many mistakes were made. Sheer negligence.

[@noellarash367]

Obviously… there were issues on the set… “unionized crew members” walking off the set… speaks for its self

[@and_the_first_last]

If anything comes of this, it should be a law against neglectful handling of firearms in situations like these even when no actual injury occurs. The union members should have had the opportunity to report the unsafe conditions to law enforcement

[@carolnahigian9518]

Yes!

[@janetpelletier1238]

@@and_the_first_last Not to jump on the "sue" bandwagon but I think they should.

[@tiffprendergast]

@@and_the_first_last yup

[@tiffprendergast]

@@janetpelletier1238 yup

[@rl318]

The idea that crew members might have been messing around with the guns using live ammo is crazy because it means the weapons were not being monitored properly at all. Even if noone is charges criminally the civil liability is definitely there.

[@kate9576]

I read that 500 live rounds were found. WHY HAVE LIVE ROUNDS? omg.

[@rl318]

@@kate9576 500 rounds, was someone planning a bank robbery?

[@raylaux8295]

It is common for these movie people to shot the firearms used in the movie. Hally Berry and Keanu Reeves did it. It's on KZbin

[@rl318]

@@raylaux8295 In those cases the actors were training at a firing range under controlled conditions, not using live rounds on a movie set. As I stated elsewhere a lot of actors that work with weapons go train to get more familiar with guns just like they do fight and stunt work. That does not sound like the case on this production and the props department was just letting anyone play with the guns using live rounds because they were in a secluded area. You could never get away with having that much ammo laying around a set on studio lot or in a populated area.

[@raylaux8295]

@@rl318 Brilliant, Captain Obvious

[@metronorthwtrain1452]

If children can be charged with accidental shootings why can't adults on a movie set?

[@Pete-z6e]

What is an accidental shooting?........murky as hell!

[@bettybanaszak5748]

Excellent presentation. Simple, direct, unbiased facts. You would make a good judge.

[@HyperborianAlpha]

As a firearms instructor, I have to commend you on your knowledge of firearms.

[@Sue_Me_Too]

Have you ever handled the kinds of dummy rounds they use for close ups on movie sets? I'm curious how hard it would be for an average person to tell them apart from live rounds.

[@almac9203]

@@Sue_Me_Too I believe they look very similar to the actual round. This is by design because the rounds are designed to be filmed up close. They can have a very small hole drilled into the side of the round for identfication purposes. They also have some ball bearing that rattles when shaked. If you shake the rounds then the rattle sound would identify that as a dummy. The District Attorney said that as a lay person she found it difficult to distinguish between the live bullet and the dummy rounds because they look very similar.

[@christopherboydandmartinsc9322]

@@almac9203 “but all he had to do was check” - morons

[@HyperborianAlpha]

@@Sue_Me_Too From the front they look like a regular cartridge. But the back of the round does not have a primer. So, it would be impossible for the round to be live without a primer. The primer is what the firing pin hits to cause a spark that initiates the gun powder in the cartridge, thus firing the bullet down the barrel. I have a couple of dummy rounds...they look real, except for the lack of a primer...and they are a tiny bit lighter because they have no gun powder in them. So, it should be relatively easy to spot fake rounds as long as the person inspecting it knows what they are looking for.

[@Catlady-mw4en]

@@Sue_Me_Too it wasn’t supposed to be loaded with anything if Baldwin was supposed to aim it at the camera and pull the trigger. The gun handler didn’t even do their basic job. She didn’t check the gun for ANYTHING after handing it out for target practice. That’s not even a pro-level safety failure. Any idiot who understands that bullets hurt would know to make sure there weren’t any in there before firing it at people for a movie scene.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

Dr. Grande, thanks you for providing an update on this case. So looking forward to it! You are so generous with us! 💕

[@moonstruck562]

So generous indeed... to the point I feel guilty enjoying and getting used to splurging myself at least one video a day. Sometimes if we're lucky, we get two lol. Not counting weekends and his other channel, BGM. I say "guilty" because on one hand I look forward seeing a video every single day, like I can't do without, on another hand I don't want Dr. Grande to get exhausted working himself up so much. He has truely spoiled us! :)

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@moonstruck562 I agree with you, I also feel super guilty at times. His productivity is really impressive. 🙌🏼

[@belletim1086]

I always value Dr. Grandes input regarding cases that we usually just take for what news tells it, but Dr. G makes the most intelligent videos that present us with all sides to the story, thanks Dr. Grande! keep safe and God bless u more

[@Dakayto]

There's no doubt the settlement of the lawsuit filed by Hutchin's grieving family will probably be more than the budget of this film.

[@jguenther3049]

Again, informed and competent coverage of this topic. One additional item that hasn't been confirmed, but may be significant: It's been said that Halls also tried several quick draws with that same gun without pulling the trigger, then handed the weapon back to Baldwin, who drew again and pulled the trigger.

[@charwest9449]

It would be like hiring stunt drivers for a movie who didn't even have driver's licenses, or hadn't taken a driving safety class, didn't know how to drive a car safely. But they're stunt drivers. .

[@TrixiLovesYou]

And letting them drive toward the cinematographer and director full throttle.

[@lynniepage4994]

But - are Armorers licensed or certified professionals? If so, did Reed hold the necessary license? I'm assuming you can't just say "hey, I'm good with guns" and be hired by a film production company.

[@charwest9449]

@@lynniepage4994 I'm actually talking about Baldwin, the one who was required to shoot the gun in the movie. The armorer was responsible for ensuring that the gun was safe, which she did not do. But Baldwin, as the actual user of that gun, was responsible for USING it safely, which means doing the basic things any gun owner would do in handling it, like check it, not point it directly at anyone ever, and never fire it directly at anyone. Anything less would put him in the category of a stunt driver who didn't have a license to drive that vehicle.

[@lynniepage4994]

@@charwest9449 I believe you're wrong when it comes to actors who are under the guidance and supervision of a licensed "expert". Yes, in most instances you would be correct, but not when you have a contract with a professional to ensure every aspect of gun safety on set. Many actors and actresses wouldn't even know how to check a guns chambers and most prop masters wouldn't even want, let alone expect, an actor to do this (an actor could even shoot himself attempting to check). If an actor were given a grenade, and told by the armorer is was inert and safe, but it exploded when the actor pulled the pin, he would have zero liabilty - it would fall on the professional contracted to provide the grenade.

[@charwest9449]

@@lynniepage4994 EVERYONE who handles a gun observes basic laws of gun safety. There are well established protocols in place. Alec Baldwin simply did not follow even those basic rules by which everyone who handles a gun is bound. We are talking about a one-day class in gun safety. It's that basic. It's not rocket science. It would be as if you hired someone to stunt drive on a movie set, when he didn't even have his basic license. If you don't pass your gun safety class you don't get your license.

[@showkitties3844]

“Hold it by the trumpet, & watch where you point the guitar” your one liners are truly iconic 😂

[@nemiw4429]

When I see your past comments it seems you reeealy like Dr. Grande.

[@larryespada5951]

A cylinder of a gun can be called a drum in some cases. Alot of machine guns are drum fed. Like the tommy gun.

[@SalisburySnake]

@@larryespada5951 As Dr. Grande explained though, The drum on a Tommy gun is a type of magazine. The cartridges are stored there, but must move out of the magazine and into the chamber to be fired. On a revolver, the cartridges are fired inside the cylinder, which is not a magazine or a drum.

[@user-ue6iv2rd1n]

A cylinder and a drum are the same shape, everybody knows what he meant. His condescending joke was cringe worthy, I don't think his monotone voice helps the delivery either.

[@showkitties3844]

@@nemiw4429 Thanks for taking the time to go through my catalog. Yes, I enjoy his channel, hence the reason I leave comments reflecting that. You wanna go ahead & assign some different motive, all the power to you, creep.

[@EleniBelle]

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[@tammywebb7521]

I thought the same. Dr. Grande has class and style!

[@aprilpeters8620]

I like it too. Is that a Liberty print? Its really nice.

[@ninanina8023]

He is so charismatic, I love this channel. 😄

[@tamarevans9025]

@@aprilpeters8620 It does indeed appear to be a Liberty print, very nice.

[@hearswhat8734]

I think I donated that shirt in 1968 and it's more triggering than hot head baldwin showing up again.

[@Sketcher93]

That was superb. You explained everything I've been wondering.

[@valiakloeppel7252]

Yes, I found your analysis to be very informative. Well researched and objective in view.

[@bo77as66]

Almost 900k congrats Dr. Grande!

[@sarahjane9512]

So tragic... An innocent person lost their life.. Just Tragic.

[@MindyBeee]

Yes. Such a waste of a life 💔

[@skookapalooza2016]

Dr. Grande is clearly a gun guy. He's versed. That really comes across in his detailed explanations. Excellent video, as always.👍

[@lindalai9092]

lol

[@jackspring7709]

Yes, I was quite impressed by the good doctor here.

[@thespicyrose]

Dr. Grande, I applaud your thorough research - both on the events that unfolded on the movie set and also your extensive knowledge of firearms. I learn from you each day. Also, who else is loving Dr. G’s shirt today? 😁

[@ellenbremner9100]

Baldwin should be held legally and civilly liable for his actions in this shocking event. He has over 40 years experience in the movie industry and has the knowledge and resources that could have prevented this death and injury.

[@HeavyInstinct]

My guess is that in his 40 years of experience he's been able to rely on people hired specifically for the purpose of inspecting a weapon and ensuring its readiness for a scene to actually do their job. Think about what you just heard in this video, the armorers only job other than selecting the correct weapon for the scene was to visually inspect each chamber to ensure it wasn't loaded. Then the assistant director was supposed to have her demonstrate that it was indeed unloaded before handing it off to the actor and declaring it as such to him. It's like if I take my car to a mechanic to have the brakes fixed and then send an assistant of mine to pick up the car and also ensure that the work has been done correctly before returning it to me. Would it be reasonable to then expect me to actually crawl under the car and inspect the work myself?

[@TwinMammyof4]

Sorry, but Baldwin was not responsible for checking the firearm, they had hired specific people for that. It would have been the smart thing to do, but he was not responsible for that. Did you even hear this video before deciding to comment? There are plenty of people who do not like him, but that doesn't make him a cold blooded killer.

[@pablodmdp]

I don’t agree

[@megaman4201]

@@TwinMammyof4 disagree, it was a real and working firearm, you NEVER point a firearm at a human being. Alec Baldwin cocked it, pointed it at a woman, and pulled the trigger... You don't think that's a negligent action?

[@americanpancakelive]

@@megaman4201 If Baldwin is indeed negligent then so are the unfortunate victims here who apparently willingly stood in the path of a deadly prop gun. A lot of stupid things happened on that set but there are other people on movie sets who are responsible for safety protocols and seeing if they are followed and when the courts decide who they are, "they" will be dealt with not Baldwin. He is a third victim here, handed a weapon that was supposed to contain blanks, being told where to stand and how to act.

[@blitzphantom9488]

This should result in some charges, this is extremely negligent.

[@Sue_Me_Too]

The whole chain of custody (everyone who touched the gun) should be charged.

[@blitzphantom9488]

@@Sue_Me_Too I agree, but ever more so for Baldwin because he fostered an environment where this could happen. No excuse for it.

[@Sue_Me_Too]

@@blitzphantom9488 He gets one portion of guilt for pulling the trigger and another for his responsibility over the situation.

[@blitzphantom9488]

@@Sue_Me_Too exactly, right.

[@annamack5823]

@@Sue_Me_Too I'm inclined to think that Baldwin would not be in the frame on this if he were not such a ghastly human being. I'm thinking that, had Tom Hanks (for example) been caught out like this, a lot of people would be feeling sorry for him...

[@Blank-41]

These people are using real guns without knowing jack about it, this is a failure on every level possible they should all be responsible.

[@tclem44]

It is the producer's responsibility to ensure the safety of the people working on the set.

[@Sue_Me_Too]

There was SUPPOSED to be a highly trained professional armorer/arms master on set to make sure everyone else was being safe.

[@jaymike987]

You don't need highly trained experts to check if a gun is loaded or not. The person who aims the gun at another person and pulls the trigger should check it.

[@DoggyHateFire]

I think the person who brought live ammunition on set deserves a whole lot of responsibility. There were screw ups down the line, but having live ammunition on set made it all possible.

[@kaloifortich4491]

@@jaymike987 nice. So a paid actor not only has to memorize their lines, convincingly portray a character and emotion in a situation needed by the story, possibly reshoot those scenes several times in several different ways, be under the pressure of not wasting everyones time, energy & money, but also has to personally check a prop gun if it has real bullets whether it is a hand gun, rifle, or any other type of firearm, and do it every single time. Yeah, that sounds really practical.

[@These_Old_Engines]

Great video, well researched. Only point of contention is that the person holding the gun and squeezing the trigger is always the final safety. One of the prime directives in firearms is that you dont trust the gun to be unloaded or anyone's word that the gun is unloaded. There was a chain of custody here, intended to minimize the risks, it is not intended to absolve the last link in that chain of liability. Are the other links at fault? Yes, Is Baldwin also at fault? Yes. They all need to be charged if any of them are charged (given the current information we have).

[@grandmabenti8516]

I like your thoughts regarding the chain of custody and liken the prime directive concept to folding one's own parachute prior to jumping from an aircraft

[@wrmlm37]

It's the same for nurses. You NEVER administer medications some one else has drawn up. NEVER.

[@beevie4081]

I agree. If my training in Canada is anything like Alec's training in California, then he knows he is responsible too. Sad, but true.

[@pink-penguin101]

Accountability must be practiced. Baldwin had contless of movies where he used guns; he sure knew how guns worked and knew that guns must be checked by the one who's about to pull the trigger; and that's him. He should be charged as well. But he sure has connections and can pull some strings. Excellent knowledge on guns Dr Grande and analysis on this case too. Thanks!!!!

[@lesliefitzgerald2354]

ou are wrong, an actor knows what they are told to do...you need to think about what you are saying! They just do what they are TOLD!!!

[@NextScamdemic]

I'm sure there's a protocol that was skipped whereby the armorer inspects the weapon with the actor. Yes, its negligence on the armorer's part, but for an experienced actor like Baldwin who's been around firearms in movies for decades, it's also negligence on his part to allow that crucial step to be skipped over.

[@dgray3771]

Negligence on both ends. You don't want to be put in a position where you might actually accidentally kill someone. Then you are a danger to society yourself. Forget about " legal liability" do you want to just kill people? He didn't give a crap about the procedure and just went with it. He is liable.

[@Mancallquest]

Everything Dr Grande said is so on point. Just wow 🙌🏾

[@angelatheriault8855]

If the armorer was supposed to keep the weapon secured at all times while it wasn’t being used on set, how did the live round get loaded into it? Did the armorer have live rounds even though she claimed she didn’t and accidentally load one into the weapon? If not, she must have left the weapon unattended where someone had access to it and they loaded the live round. The weapon did not load itself.

[@Sue_Me_Too]

According to reports she was allowing the film crew to use the prop guns for recreational target shooting, then she failed to get rid of whatever live ammo was left over and some of it got mixed in with the dummy rounds they use when you need to point the gun at the camera.

[@almac9203]

@@Sue_Me_Too that makes sense however she denied that she was involved or condoned plinking. If it can be proven that she lied to the police she could be in trouble. She claimed she locked up the weapons after the days shooting and during lunch breaks. She claims it is a mystery to her how the ammunition got in the gun.

[@exhaustguy]

She took the cartridge out after the shooting. That is what I would do if I screwed up. Now when did the fingerprints get on the cartridge?

[@Sue_Me_Too]

@@almac9203 There's more evidence that she's incompetent than that somebody planted the live ammo on purpose. At least for now

[@blitzphantom9488]

My guess is that a round was left over in the gun on accident from shooting the night before or so and that’s how it happened.

[@maureengunn7952]

You’re terrific Dr. Grande! Wow almost 900k mark!! Keep your intelligent data coming!! Kudos to you!❤️✌🏻

[@erincaitlin1655]

Is that your real family name ?????

[@maureeningleston1501]

It's chilling that this actually happened on a movie set, surely someone has to be held accountable for negligence at the very least?

[@janetpelletier1238]

Considering Baldwin is considered a veteran in the business- I agree.

[@tiffprendergast]

@@janetpelletier1238 yup

[@montereyf7692]

Must do jail time that it this murder should not be free

[@marksanford6432]

Alec is one of them. Especially if he was a part of hiring the crew.

[@saraburr3977]

I'm in Scotland where - thankfully - firearms aren't commonplace, and even our 'on the beat' police aren't armed so I really appreciate the explanations you provide around gun terminology because otherwise it'd all be gobbledygook to me! Love your videos - I'm always learning and us Scots love a bit of dry wit too! ❤

[@robertstout6980]

Only one person pulled the trigger, AB. I don't care what he was told, he took a real firearm from someone who told him it was safe and didn't check it himself. Alec is the last chance to avoid the shooting and he didn't take due diligence. Involuntary manslaughter should be the charge. If the rules of the set are you are NOT to check the firearm yourself, you should refuse to participate because it's NOT safe.

[@Jared_Wignall]

Thank you for the update Dr. Grande. I always appreciate what you have to say on things like this. Keep up the great work!

[@STho205]

Wow. Calm, narrative, point by point without editorializing or reverting to gossip column chatter. Having, myself, worked sets with these antique replicas and long arms... Spot on. Refreshing.

[@feleciaclemons5074]

Dr.Grande, you are grinding so hard,! Putting out so much content! Love it♥️❤️

[@shantoreywilkins651]

💗💗💗💗

[@marivipalomino6975]

It was Alec Balwin's production. His choice of people in key security positions was based probably on a low budget than on experience. He did pull the trigger, it was a chain of responsibilities that ends in the one holding the gun and ultimately firing it. As I understand they were on a hurry. If that's was the case, the more reason to hold him accountable together with the other two.

[@georgehays4900]

You can call it an unintended discharge or an accidental discharge but the truth is it was a negligent discharge.

[@teamcougars]

This catastrophe just seems to get worse and worse 🥲

[@philiphusband2860]

As an actor who was once required to handle a functional firearm on set, I can confirm that Alec Baldwin, as an actor, should not only not have been required to check the firearm before the scene, but as someone who did not necessarily have the expertise to evaluate whether the pistol was loaded, followed the correct protocol by assuming that both the armorer and the AD knew what they were doing. In my case, the cameraman/armorer, removed the magazine and cleared the chamber in front of me, but even so, when it came time to shoot the scene, he yelled out "live gun on set!), and the camera at which I aimed the pistol was operated remotely. As a producer, Baldwin may bear some responsibility for the incompetence of the crew who were hired for the production, but as an actor, he did nothing wrong: assuming he was not familiar with the firearm in question, it was wise of him not to fiddle around with it before the rehearsal to see whether it was loaded or not, since he most most likely unqualified to do so in a safe manner. Ultimately, the blame lies with the "armorer" and the AD.

[@jonathanisrael9714]

That seems to be the narrative. Everyone who touched the gun is guilty of manslaughter except the SHOOTER. Why?

[@JasonQuackenbushonGoogle]

@@jonathanisrael9714 because criminal liability turns on questions of knowledge and intent. where both are absent, it is only where the law imposes “strict liability,” that is, guilt is a matter of the act alone (drunk driving and vehicular manslaughter are the most common examples in most states) regardless of mens rea, meaning “guilty mind,” unlike other crimes where mens rea is a crucial element that must be proven to convict. Incidentally, I have my doubts that there will be any charges filed in this case. The potential defendants are wealthy, high profile, and sympathetic to a jury. The likelihood of conviction even if new mexico’s involuntary manslaughter or another negligent homicide statute might attach to the shooting, is too low particularly if the survivors are not pushing for criminal penalties.

[@jonathanisrael9714]

@Christie Malry Appears actors who kill while using guns on set are somehow excused from checking the gun. Wow! But a producer who recklessly hires known incompetent armorer is abslolutely guilty of manslaughter.

[@giveu2paradise]

@Christie Malry OMG! hitting a cop as a stunt in a scripted scene is not a crime . killing someone is. that analogy is ridiculous. i guess actors get free passes for manslaughter.

[@jonnylumberjack6223]

@@jonathanisrael9714 Actors are not gun experts. They trust the experts that are employed to ensure safety. What part of that is hard to understand?

[@philipallard8026]

I was taught always check a gun when handed to you and always assume it is loaded.

[@MoonLiteNite]

anti-gun movie actors are exempt for the most basic firearms safety rules.

[@tomswift6198]

That's how you'd do it. That's how I'd do it. But they can't have the actors checking their guns every time they touch one - it would make movies really slow.

[@user-ic9qm8mb4t]

Philip Allard Sure you do, if you're going deer hunting!!! Or in a gang.

[@user-ic9qm8mb4t]

@@MoonLiteNite OMG!! He's a actor.

[@carolpiza1090]

Dr G I can’t help but compare this to the nurse charged criminally due to medication error death. As the nurse was charged so should Alec. What’s the difference??? Systems and people failed time after time.

[@jimbeekman4863]

The F.B.I. has confirmed that Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger. Now punish him like he's never been punished before.. Ever.

[@nhmooytis7058]

Amen!

[@noellarash367]

Irregardless of what happen “AB” will have to live with the fact, he pointed a gun at someone & now she’s dead. Not an easy thing to live with

[@dankodde6721]

True, also may be the end of his acting career. Has to bear some responsibility, even if it was an accident.

[@BSBWOMAN]

Your obvious knowledge of firearms, makes this analysis all the more interesting.

[@valerielyda6414]

An incompetent armorer may have lied when being interviewed for her movie position hence the producers were potentially misled. The AD appears negligent and inaccurately reported to the actor whilst he was concentrating on acting. Hence, I feel you have intelligently illuminated vulnerable or gullible parties. Your astute explanation was most helpful.

[@zone4garlicfarm]

Does the film industry have written standards that list the qualifications to be an armorer? I'm not convinced that Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was incompetent. It seems that the conditions on this set were so poor and out of control that even the most experienced armorers would not be able to do their jobs properly.

[@marys3127]

The gun had been used for target practice hours before being handed to Alec Baldwin. Unreal….the set was out of control.

[@Catlady-mw4en]

The movie has to properly vet their gun handlers. Nonetheless, the armorer was a recklessly negligent moron. She should be prosecuted and sued. You don’t need expertise to know not to, hand out guns for target practice, then not check the guns for bullets (90% of her job description), before just handing them to an actor who’s supposed to aim that weapon at a camera.

[@gavins9846]

@@marys3127 Lol what! Crazy people they had it coming.

[@jguenther3049]

@@zone4garlicfarm If that were the case, a professional armorer would quit and leave.

[@yasuke9317]

As resident of New Mexico, I appreciate your analysis. This was a tragic accident and We are all upset that this could happen, especially after the Brandon Lee incident.

[@markbrown1609]

at the end of the day, who was holding the gun when the accident happen? my uncle worked on the set with Charles Bronson for several movies, Bronson always visually checked the rounds himself. Same with Steve Mcqueen.

[@the_lost_navigator]

There are laws prohibiting actors from checking 'loaded' firearms on set - lessening supposed chances of 'accidents'. Armorers are responsible, period

[@markbrown1609]

@@the_lost_navigator a law checking the gun your holding for live rounds? never heard of it/

[@the_lost_navigator]

@@markbrown1609 then I suggest you look it up

[@markbrown1609]

@@the_lost_navigator can you do that for me? and give me the statute code number, is this a state or federal law?

[@annal7364]

Wow, a double dose to start the week! You're a good doctor!

[@grip4us]

The film industry has detailed safety procedures when a firearm is used on set. These were not followed. According to protocols the 1st assistant director is responsible for safety on set. This incident was the culmination of a chain of errors. Halls IMHO was definitely neglegant but so was the armor and on set prop person. On a film there may be many producers some in name only. The line producer and Unit Production Manager are responsible for hiring and day to day operations. On this project the UPM had next to no experience. Bad situation all around.

[@SY-ok2dq]

Very good point about there being multiple producers, and that producers are often just given that credit, with little or even no involvement in actual production. I believe Dodi Al-Fayed, the Harrods department store heir who was killed with Princess Diana, was given various credits as a producer, and he usually didn't do a thing except maybe visit sets and actors, and attend after parties, premieres etc. Just a title given to him by his father who owned the production companies.

[@Gos1234567]

I think Halls and Gutierrez will definetly be charged. I know nothing about guns but it just seems you open the gun and check the barrel for live rounds,I mean that can’t take too long. Also allowing staff to use live guns for target practise is insane,so whoever is responsible for allowing that should be charged aswell.

[@berserkasaurusrex4233]

@@SY-ok2dq Generally when the producer is also a starring actor in the film/show, they have a fair amount of involvement. Usually they take the producer role specifically to ensure they have more control over the production and direction. And in the case of actresses approaching 40, they become producers largely to ensure they have lead acting roles in their own films as they age out of Hollywood stardom.

[@SY-ok2dq]

@@berserkasaurusrex4233 Yes I'm aware of actors and actresses becoming producers for the reasons you mentioned. However, the involvement can vary a lot. As I mentioned, Dodi Al-Fayed's involvement was usually just popping by to observe some filming and turn up to events, premieres and so on. You mentioned actresses, but they may only say, choose the project and work with the writers and director, maybe involved in raising finance and so on. Or hiring of top of the line staff. Some actor/ producers may get much more involved in the nitty gritty. There's no set description of task for a producer in order to get that credit. Also, there were multiple producers. And aren't there roles like line producer and so on?

[@berserkasaurusrex4233]

@@SY-ok2dq My point is that in this particular situation it is a starring actor who has invested money in the production. That generally happens when he wants more control over the production and financial decisions. Al-Fayed's lack of involvement in his produced films is irrelevant, as he wasn't producing films he was starring in. That's a whole other can of worms, and doesn't have any real bearing on this situation. And regardless of how involved they are, just being a producer would add some degree of legal liability; how much would have to be determined by court interviews and whatever paperwork/email history exists. Given that Baldwin has previously worked with the film's director and produced films with him before, and that 'Rust' is apparently a passion project of Baldwin's (as has been reported, anyway), it is likely that he was very involved in the production decisions, including hiring/firing of workers, reduction of budget for safety assistants, etc.

[@grandmabenti8516]

Another well- thought -out and very careful, critical and candid analysis. Thanx Dr. Grande❗

[@wardencobb7442]

Hey doc... Do some digging into the SOP as to whether or not down the barrel shots have a camera man behind the camera.... Or if industry standard is for them to set up the camera, start recording, get the hell out of the way and then action is called

[@cliveedwards2958]

This is my 'go to' channel and as I'm from the UK I find these summaries work well for us folk here in England..non sensationalist and well delivered..good work sir!

[@richardanderson7091]

Well Dave Halls said it all. When he said “ I should have…” he became a felon I appreciate his honesty unlike the rest of that lot. Such a tragic situation that should have never happened but as long as human beings are handling weapons , this will happen

[@marys3127]

Wouldn’t it be a great world if everyone took responsibility for their mistakes? I can dream….

[@lizsays3324]

His lawyers are now saying, not his responsibility, not part of his job to check the weapons, handle the weapons, or even hand the weapons to the actors.

[@Miakel]

Hello from Australia. Top quality content as always.

[@JustMe-px9qy]

If a police office accidentally killed someone…Baldwin would crucify him. But Baldwin kills someone and expects sympathy

[@Dulcimertunes]

Right?

[@dannyhughes4217]

It makes absolutely no difference: Once a weapon comes in contact with your hand, YOU are responsible for every round you send down range.

[@Cream147player]

That is a terrible reductionist attitude that destroys safety. Every single person on that set is responsible for safety in some form or another, and for those people that were part of the safety chain in terms of ensuring that there was not a live bullet in that gun when the trigger was pressed, they are absolutely responsible - it's as bad as firing the weapon yourself. The actor also bears responsibility for his role in the safety - for example, he should not be firing a gun at anybody, loaded or otherwise. But putting all the focus on the one who pulled the trigger is stupid, the preventative safety measures beforehand would equally as well have stopped this incident - and the moment that Baldwin was handed a gun with live ammunition in it the safety on that set was unacceptable. In fact, just that loaded gun being on set was unacceptable, who left a gun lying around with live ammunition? There's a lot of responsibility to go around, and it's important that criminal cases are brought where applicable to deter the flagrant disregard of safety on that set.

[@dannyhughes4217]

@@Cream147player I actually don't disagree with you. I've handled firearms my whole life. I was taught to check a firearm as soon as it was in my possession. If you're the person pointing a firearms at anything, it is you're ultimate responsibility for whatever outcome when you press a round off. In case you're wondering, I do have real world experience in these matters.

[@nicolab2075]

@@dannyhughes4217 Another issue might be that an actor might have no knowledge of guns at all, so responsibility should lie elsewhere in my opinion.

[@dannyhughes4217]

@@nicolab2075 If you have absolutely no knowledge of a weapon, it is your responsibility to familiarize yourself with it. It's not going to matter how many, " OH poor Alec," comments are made here. Alec Baldwin is arrogant ass that treats everyone like shit, (Including his family.) He's like so many other hypocritical Hollywood millionaire, "stars." They ridicule and criticize police officers over split second decisions made in life and death situations, then consider themselves either too good or such an important artist to check a weapon before pointing it at a human being. In Matt Damon's case testifying before congress in favor of seizing firearms...."I hate guns, they freak me out. " All that after making millions of dollars in the , "Jason Bourne series."

[@nicolab2075]

@@dannyhughes4217 I think it's best that the procedures assume very little knowledge on the part of the actor, and that there are experts supervising. That seems safest to me. Some training for the actors could be included too.

[@davidthomas4489]

In a woodworking shop, I was always told the "respect the tool" or I could easily loose a hand or finger. A contractor who walks on a roof, must respect the situation. My brother-in-law did not, slipped and fell to his death because he chose to walk on a roof that was rained on, and didn't take the time to respect the potential situation. Anything that has the potential for DEATH or harm must be respected! Meaning, a gun no matter what the condition should be treated as a harmful item. You don't use your bare hand to push a piece of wood through the blade of a table saw and you don't stand in the path of a potential kick back of the wood should it catch in a wrong manner. An armorer who has no clue in following procedure in checking a weapon, along with the other steps (AD and actor) in checking the weapon are all culpable. NEVER point a weapon loaded or unloaded at a person! Another issue that should have accountability. Those responsible for allowing LIVE rounds on a set should also be liable. This situation was totally PREVENTABLE, like the other two analogies I mentioned. A beautiful wife, and mother; a talented individual, who had her whole life ahead of her has been taken away by these senseless acts of irresponsibility. This makes me sick too the pit of my stomach.

[@quantumpotential7639]

I am sorry to hear about your brother in law. This is just terrible. I've been on way too many roofs not to almost have learned this lesson the hard way. One time the feet of the ladder were resting on wet slate caused by water from the hose I was working with. When it slid out from underneath me and I went vertical from the top of the ladder, I learned the concept of respecting the situation. It fell under the category of DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE COMING. Gravity can be a great teacher, but usually it takes a slate chalk board in which the lesson is initiated. Just add water. Respect the situation. It's advice that should be provided to every human being at the earliest possibility. Is there a book in you? I think there is. And I think we know what the title of it would be. 🏋️💪🇺🇸

[@davidthomas4489]

@@quantumpotential7639 Thanks for your reply. And for proving that all potentially dangerous situations, even driving a car, should be respected.

[@plumnumb1593]

A perfect summation. Clear, concise, complete.

[@ArizonaRed]

I agree with John Schneider. It's criminal negligence for whomever handled that weapon. I can't see Baldwin getting a pass if he was the one holding the weapon and firing it.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

I'm surprised no one at the NM law enforcement briefing asked if AB had a gun shot residue test or if he had any DNA, finger print testing while he was interviewed by Santa Fe cops.

[@durtyragoux]

@@DavidLLambertmobile hmmm. But isn't that routine procedure for police to do anyhow?? I'm assuming, as a matter of course, fingerprints would be ID'd and preserved. Not certain DNA would be needed in this case, let alone the fact that Baldwin was witnessed with the gun. Sounds like an insanely moot question.

[@durtyragoux]

Again, because it's a movie set, and not necessarily HIS responsibility to CK the gun, however insane that sounds, it would be tough to make those charges stick. I think it should be law that an actor using a gun should be presented with the gun, shown the inside of the barrel and the rest, and confirm that it's empty, cold, whatever the case may be. That seems like prt and parcel of an actor's responsibility, to be trained to know the difference between a live round, a blank, and so on, and be trained to know how to examine the contents of the gun being used. These proactive measures are what is done on most sets, but this was, apparently, a nightmare shit show at every turn, with ab as one of the chief personnel. Perhaps as producer he can be civilly charged, or if he's connected to the ammo, then he should well be charged criminally.

[@litneyloxan]

I just love your professionalism, ability to discover controversy without bias for either side, and no nonsense approach to facts. The media forgets these are real people with real lives, and now she has no life due to multiple instances of negligence. They will probably at worst get involuntary or reckless manslaughter

[@MyelinProductions]

Very good analysis. Well done. So sad, tragic, and preventable. We make films and do a LOT of weapon training and tactics training. MASSIVE Safety precautions and procedures. The crew was NOT well cared for and the safety steps were ignored. We also use a veterans and a have medical team on all sets. As an NRA Instructor and BLS/FA/CPR instructor this is very much a "snowballing disaster". Thank You. Peace & Health ~ NEVER EVER "MIX" munitions.

[@teletubbiestunetwister9570]

Airline pilots with decades of experience still use a physical checklist before each flight. It's extraordinary that there is not a standard checklist required for weapons used in movies.

[@anonymousstrangeness7348]

I know I've said this before, Doctor Grande, but this was another great analysis !! --Highly informative & educational, concise, fascinating, and pure enjoyment to hear your thoughts. 😀

[@RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose]

It's 03:03 AM in Germany and I am watching a Dr. Grande video featuring Alec Baldwin. This Tuesday literally begins with a good morning❣🌄 💞

[@julieyoung3315]

I'm watching in Florida. I'm Very interested in this case. Dr. Grande is the Best.

[@Reavant_]

Ich fühle dich.

[@MindyBeee]

RIP Halyna 💔

[@RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose]

@@julieyoung3315 That's true❣👍❤

[@RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose]

@@Reavant_ Guten Morgen und einen schönen Start in die neue Woche❣❤💞

[@shawns.12]

Cases like these are just so frustrating, Such a careless and preventable death.

[@unarmored9973]

There can be any number of contributing factors that lead to a negligent discharge. That is why the highest level of responsibility is issued to the person handling the gun. "I didn't know it was loaded" NEVER works for anyone else, and shouldn't work this time because people don't want to harm an actor they like. Jail time? I don't know. But accountability for sure.

[@tommulhall3865]

Agree

[@catemccool4100]

I disagree with your opinion that Baldwin has less culpability. If he were rehearsing Russian Roulette, would he have checked the gun? Pretty sure he would have. No excuses for him to not have checked the gun.

[@paperdollyglitzzy]

Another Dr. Grande. Fantastic! Thank you Dr. G.

[@mysteryjunkie9808]

He’s got 4 things his lawyers will have to convince a jury he was not responsible for to avoid a negligent homicide conviction. 1. He didn’t check if the gun given to him was loaded. Even if it wasn’t his “job” it’s the responsibility of anyone holding a firearm. 2. He didn’t check if the safety was off. 3. He pointed it at someone. 4. He pulled the trigger. It’s going to be hard to make a jury of regular people to think he wasn’t responsible for any one of those things happening.

[@user-dn1pj3db2k]

I agree 100%

[@AnnikaOBrien]

He refused to take any gun safety courses despite the number of times he’s used one on set. His solution now is to limit others from responsibly using a gun.

[@duanejackson6718]

He's not going to get convicted of anything.

[@icostaticrebound6007]

if he waives the right to a jury he can be judged solely by a judge, who I am sure will be corrupted lol

[@eve__________]

also as a producer, he is responsible that that armorer would have enough qualifications and experience to handle live firearms daily.

[@shelso1300]

Nice shirt choice! Oh, and I enjoyed the analysis.

[@jamessatter7418]

Just a reminder, I am not diagnosing Dr. Grande's shirt, merely speculating what could be happening with a shirt like his.

[@Inismoon]

@@jamessatter7418 🥰✨

[@shelso1300]

@@jamessatter7418 Good one!

[@burtvincent1278]

Blank ammunition in functioning firearms can be deadly at close range. There should not have been a person behind the camera when Baldwin shot.

[@tupelohoney622]

Thank you for taking the time to explain the correct mechanics of the firearm. While a jury might give Baldwin a pass on negligence, he WAS negligent. Basic firearm safety I was taught before I was 7 years old, in a family of hunters. 1) Assume every firearm is loaded 2) Once a firearm is in your hand it is your responsibility 3) Check everytime you pick up a firearm to confirm its status 4) Never aim a firearm unless you intend to kill 5) Situational awareness; know what is in the vicinity of your firing area, especially behind the target. I realize 4 & 5 may not be realistic of a movie set but basic gun safety 1-3 could have prevented this tragedy. Every person that handled that gun had the same responsibility of checking the status of the firearm, including Baldwin. The entire crew should have been required to take the NRA'S safety class, despite Baldwin's contempt of the organization. It might have saved a life and him a lifetime of guilt.